date:20160825


> On 26 Aug 2016, at 7:40 AM, Richard Gaskin  wrote:
> 
> Monte Goulding wrote:
> 
> >> On 26 Aug 2016, at 7:03 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
> >>
> >> You'll also want to use those properties for any getters as well,
> >> given that they are global and perhaps settable by third-party
> >> plugins.
> >
> > Here’s where the problems settle in. By using revIDESetPreference
> > anything that has subscribed to the preference change will get a
> > message. If someone sets that property then they won’t...
> 
> In the current implementation that's true, hence my request.
> 
> On the other hand, no one else seems to mind that those global properties are 
> not being used, so if it's easier to ditch the props and use the scripted 
> function it won't be the end of the world.
> 
> But if you do that, please add entries for the alternate functions, and 
> include links in the Dict entries for scriptTextFont and scriptTextSize so 
> anyone looking for those will know where to go.

Yes indeed… there’s *lots* of undocumented APIs in the IDE. At the moment as we 
go we are adding lcdoc comments to public APIs. At some point we will have done 
that enough to parse IDE libraries and generate an IDE dictionary. It is, 
however, a long row to hoe.

Cheers

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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

Monte Goulding wrote:

>> On 26 Aug 2016, at 7:03 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>>
>> You'll also want to use those properties for any getters as well,
>> given that they are global and perhaps settable by third-party
>> plugins.
>
> Here’s where the problems settle in. By using revIDESetPreference
> anything that has subscribed to the preference change will get a
> message. If someone sets that property then they won’t...

In the current implementation that's true, hence my request.

On the other hand, no one else seems to mind that those global 
properties are not being used, so if it's easier to ditch the props and 
use the scripted function it won't be the end of the world.

But if you do that, please add entries for the alternate functions, and 
include links in the Dict entries for scriptTextFont and scriptTextSize 
so anyone looking for those will know where to go.

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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

> On 26 Aug 2016, at 7:03 AM, Richard Gaskin  wrote:
> 
> You'll also want to use those properties for any getters as well, given that 
> they are global and perhaps settable by third-party plugins.

Here’s where the problems settle in. By using revIDESetPreference anything that 
has subscribed to the preference change will get a message. If someone sets 
that property then they won’t...
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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

Monte Goulding wrote:

> Richard wrote:
>> Any chance we can have the scriptTextFont and scriptTextSize global
>> properties reinstated as the mechanism for that?
>>
>> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11596
>
> After reading the report I’m not really sure if they are deprecated
> or not…

They worked in the MC IDE, and IIRC in the Revolution IDE for a while as 
well.

Maybe what happened is that during the major Script Editor overhaul 
someone who wasn't familiar with the long history of those HyperTalk 
properties replaced them with scripted alternatives.

I like Panos' suggestion:

> Could we probably set them on startup?
>
> put revIDEGetPreference("cScriptEditor,editor,font") into scriptTextFont
> put revIDEGetPreference("cScriptEditor,editor,fontSize") into 
scriptTextSize

You'll also want to use those properties for any getters as well, given 
that they are global and perhaps settable by third-party plugins.

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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1


> On 26 Aug 2016, at 6:39 AM, Monte Goulding  wrote:
> 
> If they are deprecated they may be removed so it might be time to move any 
> code that depends on these to use revIDEGetPreference.

After reading the report I’m not really sure if they are deprecated or not… 
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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

> On 26 Aug 2016, at 6:41 AM, panagiotis merakos  wrote:
> 
> Could we probably set them on startup?
> 
> put revIDEGetPreference("cScriptEditor,editor,font") into scriptTextFont
> put revIDEGetPreference("cScriptEditor,editor,fontSize") into scriptTextSize

Something would need to subscribe to idePropertyChanged for those properties 
and update them but yes we could. However, if they are deprecated we would only 
be perpetuating their use by ensuring they are right. If someone wants to 
undeprecate them then most definitely this should be done but until then it 
would probably be better to recommend people use revIDEGetPreference.

Cheers

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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

Could we probably set them on startup?

put revIDEGetPreference("cScriptEditor,editor,font") into scriptTextFont
put revIDEGetPreference("cScriptEditor,editor,fontSize") into scriptTextSize


On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 11:33 PM, Richard Gaskin  wrote:

> Monte Goulding wrote:
> >> On 26 Aug 2016, at 3:29 AM, Richmond wrote:
> >>
> >> Personally I find the teeny-weeny font size in the messageBox a
> >> bother: and I have had the font in the scriptEditor set to 18
> >> for the last 10 years.
> >
> > I’ll add that too as they should use the same font + size.
>
> Thanks, Monte.
>
> Any chance we can have the scriptTextFont and scriptTextSize global
> properties reinstated as the mechanism for that?
>
> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11596
>
> The IDE used to support them,  and in my tests it seems they still work
> well once they're set, as least as far as holding their values during the
> session.
>
> In addition to the Message Box and other IDE elements, having one-stop
> shopping for those makes life so much easier for third-party tools who want
> to display script-related things in the user's chosen font and size.
>
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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1


> On 26 Aug 2016, at 6:33 AM, Richard Gaskin  wrote:
> 
> Any chance we can have the scriptTextFont and scriptTextSize global 
> properties reinstated as the mechanism for that?

If they are deprecated they may be removed so it might be time to move any code 
that depends on these to use revIDEGetPreference.

Cheers

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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

Monte Goulding wrote:
>> On 26 Aug 2016, at 3:29 AM, Richmond wrote:
>>
>> Personally I find the teeny-weeny font size in the messageBox a
>> bother: and I have had the font in the scriptEditor set to 18
>> for the last 10 years.
>
> I’ll add that too as they should use the same font + size.

Thanks, Monte.

Any chance we can have the scriptTextFont and scriptTextSize global 
properties reinstated as the mechanism for that?

http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11596

The IDE used to support them,  and in my tests it seems they still work 
well once they're set, as least as far as holding their values during 
the session.

In addition to the Message Box and other IDE elements, having one-stop 
shopping for those makes life so much easier for third-party tools who 
want to display script-related things in the user's chosen font and size.

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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

> On 26 Aug 2016, at 6:23 AM, Mike Kerner  wrote:
> 
> All I know, right now, is that the app crashes on startup.  I haven't
> gotten much further than trying it in 8.0.2 and 8.1 rc1

In the simulator or on a device?
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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

Mike, you are probably affected by
http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18261

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 11:23 PM, Mike Kerner 
wrote:

> All I know, right now, is that the app crashes on startup.  I haven't
> gotten much further than trying it in 8.0.2 and 8.1 rc1
>
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Monte Goulding  wrote:
>
> >
> > > On 26 Aug 2016, at 6:15 AM, Mike Kerner 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Rats.  I found an ios crash that appears to be a regression from
> 8.0.2...
> >
> > Can you provide some more detail? We currently know about and will have a
> > fix for a crash using 64 bit simulators + tsNet.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

> On 26 Aug 2016, at 3:29 AM, Richmond  wrote:
> 
> Personally I find the teeny-weeny font size in the messageBox a bother: and I 
> have had the font in the
> scriptEditor set to 18 for the last 10 years.

I’ll add that too as they should use the same font + size.
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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

All I know, right now, is that the app crashes on startup.  I haven't
gotten much further than trying it in 8.0.2 and 8.1 rc1

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Monte Goulding  wrote:

>
> > On 26 Aug 2016, at 6:15 AM, Mike Kerner 
> wrote:
> >
> > Rats.  I found an ios crash that appears to be a regression from 8.0.2...
>
> Can you provide some more detail? We currently know about and will have a
> fix for a crash using 64 bit simulators + tsNet.
>
> Cheers
>
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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

> On 26 Aug 2016, at 3:18 AM, Richmond  wrote:
> 
> It might not be a bad idea to put that into the documentation.

Why? I’m in the midst of fixing it ;-)
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Re: Performance issues LC8 versus earlier versions.

> On 25 Aug 2016, at 5:49 PM, Alex Tweedly  wrote:
> 
> That is wonderful - thanks Monte.
> btw - I opened a bug report to keep track of it, and so you'd have somewhere 
> to hang the change on to - 18254

FYI I have also added the length check to non-binary strings to speed up 
comparisons of those where their length is greater than 383 also.

It could still be that the team tells me I’ve overlooked something here but it 
certainly makes sense to me to check that something is feasibly a number before 
attempting to parse it into one...

Cheers

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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1


> On 26 Aug 2016, at 6:15 AM, Mike Kerner  wrote:
> 
> Rats.  I found an ios crash that appears to be a regression from 8.0.2...

Can you provide some more detail? We currently know about and will have a fix 
for a crash using 64 bit simulators + tsNet.

Cheers

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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

Rats.  I found an ios crash that appears to be a regression from 8.0.2...

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Monte Goulding  wrote:

>
> > On 26 Aug 2016, at 2:15 AM, Mike Kerner 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hopefully, soon, we'll get script color printing back, too.
>
> Mike unfortunately the issue with script color printing on Mac is not just
> isolated to the IDE as it is color printing after setting the htmlText or
> styleText to something with color chunks. There appears to be a workaround
> as selecting a chunk and setting its color from the menu works fine but I
> haven’t had time to document that yet. I do not want to use workarounds in
> the IDE so I spent a day trying to find where the issue is and I couldn’t
> get a handle on it so I had to move on so we will need to revisit it for
> 8.1.1. As far as I can tell the colors are getting to the graphics context
> during printing but being lost somewhere there… somehow… But I’m the noob
> around here so perhaps I just don’t get this rather curly bit of the engine
> yet…
>
> Cheers
>
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Re: Missing a chance


Richmond wrote:

> On 25.08.2016 22:21, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>> Richmond wrote:
>>
>> > Livecode is so not here it makes me howl:
>> >
>> > https://elearningindustry.com/list-of-authoring-tools-part-1
>> > https://elearningindustry.com/list-of-authoring-tools-part-2
>> > https://elearningindustry.com/37-authoring-tools
>>
>> Yes, there are many thousands of tools lists across the web, and it's
>> always good to add LC to those when we come across them.
>>
>> But I don't understand the "howl" - was your nominating LC to that
>> one rejected?
>
> No my howl was because I shouldn't hgave to add LC: it should be one
> of the automatic authoring tools of choice.

Why?

We here on this list know LiveCode well, and we know that we can craft 
excellent authoring tools with it.


But unless we spread the word, how can we expect the word to be spread?

Carpe diem!

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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

> On 26 Aug 2016, at 2:15 AM, Mike Kerner  wrote:
> 
> Hopefully, soon, we'll get script color printing back, too.

Mike unfortunately the issue with script color printing on Mac is not just 
isolated to the IDE as it is color printing after setting the htmlText or 
styleText to something with color chunks. There appears to be a workaround as 
selecting a chunk and setting its color from the menu works fine but I haven’t 
had time to document that yet. I do not want to use workarounds in the IDE so I 
spent a day trying to find where the issue is and I couldn’t get a handle on it 
so I had to move on so we will need to revisit it for 8.1.1. As far as I can 
tell the colors are getting to the graphics context during printing but being 
lost somewhere there… somehow… But I’m the noob around here so perhaps I just 
don’t get this rather curly bit of the engine yet…

Cheers

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Re: Missing a chance

No my howl was because I shouldn't hgave to add LC: it should be one of 
the automatic authoring tools

of choice.

R.

On 25.08.2016 22:21, Richard Gaskin wrote:

Richmond wrote:

> Livecode is so not here it makes me howl:
>
> https://elearningindustry.com/list-of-authoring-tools-part-1
> https://elearningindustry.com/list-of-authoring-tools-part-2
> https://elearningindustry.com/37-authoring-tools

Yes, there are many thousands of tools lists across the web, and it's 
always good to add LC to those when we come across them.


But I don't understand the "howl" - was your nominating LC to that one 
rejected?





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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

This:
set the textsize of field "auto complete" of card "single line" of stack
"message box" to 18

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Mike Bonner  wrote:

> Oh, theres 2 more fields you'd have to adjust too I guess. (the ones
> displaying the "best guess.." as you type.
>
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Mike Bonner  wrote:
>
>> Richmond.. Short term you can do this..
>>
>> set the textsize of field "message" of card "single line" of stack
>> "message box" to 18
>> set the textsize of field "results" of card "single line" of stack
>> "message box" to 18
>> set the textsize of field "message" of card "multiple lines" of stack
>> "message box" to 18
>> set the textsize of field "results" of card "multiple lines" of stack
>> "message box" to 18
>>
>> Makes it considerably easier for my aging eyes to see.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Richmond 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you very much.
>>>
>>> Richmond.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25.08.2016 20:51, panagiotis merakos wrote:
>>>
 I am not sure if this is the expected behavior (i.e. to first open the
 Script Editor so as to get the msg box text colorized), so I filed a
 bug to
 investigate this further.

 http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18265

 Best,
 Panos
 --

 On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Richmond 
 wrote:

 Yes; you are quite right.
>
> I opened the scriptEditor and then the messageBox.
>
> It might not be a bad idea to put that into the documentation.
>
> Thank you, Richmond.
>
> On 25.08.2016 20:14, panagiotis merakos wrote:
>
> I think you must have opened the script editor first
>> On 25 Aug 2016 18:11, "Richmond"  wrote:
>>
>> At the risk of sounding very stupid indeed . . .
>>
>>> I installed 8.1.0 rc 1 and typed this into the Message Box:
>>>
>>> put 5 into AA
>>> add 1 to AA
>>> put AA
>>>
>>> and saw no colourisation at all. What did I do wrong?
>>>
>>> Xubuntu 16.04 64-bit.
>>>
>>> Richmond.
>>>
>>> On 25.08.2016 17:01, panagiotis merakos wrote:
>>>
>>> Nice to hear that, Mike. The 8.1 RC1 release is great IMO, because
>>> apart
>>>
 from 80+ bug fixes,  it contains a lot of enhancement requests,
 including
 keyboard navigation in the Project Browser, script colorization in
 the
 msg
 box and some more:

 https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/pulls?q=is%3Apr+lab
 el%3Aenhancement+milestone%3A8.1.0-rc-1+is%3Aclosed

 https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pulls?q=is%3Apr+label%
 3Aenhancement+milestone%3A8.1.0-rc-1+is%3Aclosed

 Best,
 Panos
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 On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Mike Kerner <
 mikeker...@roadrunner.com
 wrote:

 I am really excited about 8.1.  I've been working with it for a
 while.

 There are several nifty things in here.
>
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:58 AM, panagiotis merakos <
> panos.mera...@livecode.com> wrote:
>
> Dear list members,
>
> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1.
>>
>>
>> Getting the Release
>> ===
>> You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com
>> /livecode/
>> or
>>
>> via
>>
> the automatic updater.
>
>>
>> Release Contents
>> 
>> LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1 contains 85 bug fixes and new features since
>> the
>> LiveCode 8.1.0 DP3 release. Moreover, this release contains many
>> documentation updates and engine fixes contributed by Devin Asay,
>> José
>> Antonio Meira da Rocha, Charles Warwick, msiskin, Skipis and
>> beda123.
>>
>> Thank
>>
> you!
>
>> The full release notes are available from:
>> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_0/LiveCodeNotes-
>>
>> 8_1_0_rc_1.pdf
>>
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>
>> 
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Re: Missing a chance


Richmond wrote:

> Livecode is so not here it makes me howl:
>
> https://elearningindustry.com/list-of-authoring-tools-part-1
> https://elearningindustry.com/list-of-authoring-tools-part-2
> https://elearningindustry.com/37-authoring-tools

Yes, there are many thousands of tools lists across the web, and it's 
always good to add LC to those when we come across them.


But I don't understand the "howl" - was your nominating LC to that one 
rejected?


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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1


Thank you very much.

Richmond.

On 25.08.2016 20:51, panagiotis merakos wrote:

I am not sure if this is the expected behavior (i.e. to first open the
Script Editor so as to get the msg box text colorized), so I filed a bug to
investigate this further.

http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18265

Best,
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On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Richmond 
wrote:


Yes; you are quite right.

I opened the scriptEditor and then the messageBox.

It might not be a bad idea to put that into the documentation.

Thank you, Richmond.

On 25.08.2016 20:14, panagiotis merakos wrote:


I think you must have opened the script editor first
On 25 Aug 2016 18:11, "Richmond"  wrote:

At the risk of sounding very stupid indeed . . .

I installed 8.1.0 rc 1 and typed this into the Message Box:

put 5 into AA
add 1 to AA
put AA

and saw no colourisation at all. What did I do wrong?

Xubuntu 16.04 64-bit.

Richmond.

On 25.08.2016 17:01, panagiotis merakos wrote:

Nice to hear that, Mike. The 8.1 RC1 release is great IMO, because apart

from 80+ bug fixes,  it contains a lot of enhancement requests,
including
keyboard navigation in the Project Browser, script colorization in the
msg
box and some more:

https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/pulls?q=is%3Apr+lab
el%3Aenhancement+milestone%3A8.1.0-rc-1+is%3Aclosed

https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pulls?q=is%3Apr+label%
3Aenhancement+milestone%3A8.1.0-rc-1+is%3Aclosed

Best,
Panos
--


On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Mike Kerner  wrote:

Dear list members,


We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1.


Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/
or

via

the automatic updater.


Release Contents

LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1 contains 85 bug fixes and new features since the
LiveCode 8.1.0 DP3 release. Moreover, this release contains many
documentation updates and engine fixes contributed by Devin Asay, José
Antonio Meira da Rocha, Charles Warwick, msiskin, Skipis and beda123.

Thank

you!

The full release notes are available from:
http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_0/LiveCodeNotes-

8_1_0_rc_1.pdf

Feedback


Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at
http://quality.livecode.com/

We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93


Have fun!

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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

Oh, theres 2 more fields you'd have to adjust too I guess. (the ones
displaying the "best guess.." as you type.

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Mike Bonner  wrote:

> Richmond.. Short term you can do this..
>
> set the textsize of field "message" of card "single line" of stack
> "message box" to 18
> set the textsize of field "results" of card "single line" of stack
> "message box" to 18
> set the textsize of field "message" of card "multiple lines" of stack
> "message box" to 18
> set the textsize of field "results" of card "multiple lines" of stack
> "message box" to 18
>
> Makes it considerably easier for my aging eyes to see.
>
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Richmond 
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you very much.
>>
>> Richmond.
>>
>>
>> On 25.08.2016 20:51, panagiotis merakos wrote:
>>
>>> I am not sure if this is the expected behavior (i.e. to first open the
>>> Script Editor so as to get the msg box text colorized), so I filed a bug
>>> to
>>> investigate this further.
>>>
>>> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18265
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Panos
>>> --
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Richmond 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes; you are quite right.

 I opened the scriptEditor and then the messageBox.

 It might not be a bad idea to put that into the documentation.

 Thank you, Richmond.

 On 25.08.2016 20:14, panagiotis merakos wrote:

 I think you must have opened the script editor first
> On 25 Aug 2016 18:11, "Richmond"  wrote:
>
> At the risk of sounding very stupid indeed . . .
>
>> I installed 8.1.0 rc 1 and typed this into the Message Box:
>>
>> put 5 into AA
>> add 1 to AA
>> put AA
>>
>> and saw no colourisation at all. What did I do wrong?
>>
>> Xubuntu 16.04 64-bit.
>>
>> Richmond.
>>
>> On 25.08.2016 17:01, panagiotis merakos wrote:
>>
>> Nice to hear that, Mike. The 8.1 RC1 release is great IMO, because
>> apart
>>
>>> from 80+ bug fixes,  it contains a lot of enhancement requests,
>>> including
>>> keyboard navigation in the Project Browser, script colorization in
>>> the
>>> msg
>>> box and some more:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/pulls?q=is%3Apr+lab
>>> el%3Aenhancement+milestone%3A8.1.0-rc-1+is%3Aclosed
>>>
>>> https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pulls?q=is%3Apr+label%
>>> 3Aenhancement+milestone%3A8.1.0-rc-1+is%3Aclosed
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Panos
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Mike Kerner <
>>> mikeker...@roadrunner.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am really excited about 8.1.  I've been working with it for a
>>> while.
>>>
>>> There are several nifty things in here.

 On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:58 AM, panagiotis merakos <
 panos.mera...@livecode.com> wrote:

 Dear list members,

 We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1.
>
>
> Getting the Release
> ===
> You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com
> /livecode/
> or
>
> via
>
 the automatic updater.

>
> Release Contents
> 
> LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1 contains 85 bug fixes and new features since
> the
> LiveCode 8.1.0 DP3 release. Moreover, this release contains many
> documentation updates and engine fixes contributed by Devin Asay,
> José
> Antonio Meira da Rocha, Charles Warwick, msiskin, Skipis and
> beda123.
>
> Thank
>
 you!

> The full release notes are available from:
> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_0/LiveCodeNotes-
>
> 8_1_0_rc_1.pdf
>
 Feedback

> 
> Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at
> http://quality.livecode.com/
>
> We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
> http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93
>
>
> Have fun!
>
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Missing a chance


Livecode is so not here it makes me howl:

https://elearningindustry.com/list-of-authoring-tools-part-1
https://elearningindustry.com/list-of-authoring-tools-part-2
https://elearningindustry.com/37-authoring-tools

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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

Indeed

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Richmond 
wrote:

> Thanks.
>
> I am aware of that: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=6=27829
>
> I am fairly handy at mucking around with (and mucking up) components of
> the IDE.
>
> However there are lots of end-users, and lots more potential end-users
> (especially if I get
> my wicked way and get my book out to push Livecode as an authoring
> environment for teachers)
> who either don't know how to do that sort of thing, or don't have the time
> and/or motivation to
> learn that. For them a settings pane in the IDE Preferences would be very
> good indeed.
>
> R.
>
>
> On 25.08.2016 21:16, Mike Bonner wrote:
>
>> Richmond.. Short term you can do this..
>>
>> set the textsize of field "message" of card "single line" of stack
>> "message
>> box" to 18
>> set the textsize of field "results" of card "single line" of stack
>> "message
>> box" to 18
>> set the textsize of field "message" of card "multiple lines" of stack
>> "message box" to 18
>> set the textsize of field "results" of card "multiple lines" of stack
>> "message box" to 18
>>
>> Makes it considerably easier for my aging eyes to see.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Richmond 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you very much.
>>>
>>> Richmond.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25.08.2016 20:51, panagiotis merakos wrote:
>>>
>>> I am not sure if this is the expected behavior (i.e. to first open the
 Script Editor so as to get the msg box text colorized), so I filed a bug
 to
 investigate this further.

 http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18265

 Best,
 Panos
 --

 On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Richmond 
 wrote:

 Yes; you are quite right.

> I opened the scriptEditor and then the messageBox.
>
> It might not be a bad idea to put that into the documentation.
>
> Thank you, Richmond.
>
> On 25.08.2016 20:14, panagiotis merakos wrote:
>
> I think you must have opened the script editor first
>
>> On 25 Aug 2016 18:11, "Richmond"  wrote:
>>
>> At the risk of sounding very stupid indeed . . .
>>
>> I installed 8.1.0 rc 1 and typed this into the Message Box:
>>>
>>> put 5 into AA
>>> add 1 to AA
>>> put AA
>>>
>>> and saw no colourisation at all. What did I do wrong?
>>>
>>> Xubuntu 16.04 64-bit.
>>>
>>> Richmond.
>>>
>>> On 25.08.2016 17:01, panagiotis merakos wrote:
>>>
>>> Nice to hear that, Mike. The 8.1 RC1 release is great IMO, because
>>> apart
>>>
>>> from 80+ bug fixes,  it contains a lot of enhancement requests,
 including
 keyboard navigation in the Project Browser, script colorization in
 the
 msg
 box and some more:

 https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/pulls?q=is%3Apr+lab
 el%3Aenhancement+milestone%3A8.1.0-rc-1+is%3Aclosed

 https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pulls?q=is%3Apr+label%
 3Aenhancement+milestone%3A8.1.0-rc-1+is%3Aclosed

 Best,
 Panos
 --


 On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Mike Kerner <
 mikeker...@roadrunner.com
 wrote:

 I am really excited about 8.1.  I've been working with it for a
 while.

 There are several nifty things in here.

> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:58 AM, panagiotis merakos <
> panos.mera...@livecode.com> wrote:
>
> Dear list members,
>
> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1.
>
>>
>> Getting the Release
>> ===
>> You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com
>> /livecode/
>> or
>>
>> via
>>
>> the automatic updater.
>
> Release Contents
>> 
>> LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1 contains 85 bug fixes and new features since
>> the
>> LiveCode 8.1.0 DP3 release. Moreover, this release contains many
>> documentation updates and engine fixes contributed by Devin Asay,
>> José
>> Antonio Meira da Rocha, Charles Warwick, msiskin, Skipis and
>> beda123.
>>
>> Thank
>>
>> you!
>
> The full release notes are available from:
>> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_0/LiveCodeNotes-
>>
>> 8_1_0_rc_1.pdf
>>
>> Feedback
>
> 
>> Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at
>> http://quality.livecode.com/
>>
>> We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
>> http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93
>>
>>
>>

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1


Thanks.

I am aware of that: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=6=27829

I am fairly handy at mucking around with (and mucking up) components of 
the IDE.


However there are lots of end-users, and lots more potential end-users 
(especially if I get
my wicked way and get my book out to push Livecode as an authoring 
environment for teachers)
who either don't know how to do that sort of thing, or don't have the 
time and/or motivation to
learn that. For them a settings pane in the IDE Preferences would be 
very good indeed.


R.

On 25.08.2016 21:16, Mike Bonner wrote:

Richmond.. Short term you can do this..

set the textsize of field "message" of card "single line" of stack "message
box" to 18
set the textsize of field "results" of card "single line" of stack "message
box" to 18
set the textsize of field "message" of card "multiple lines" of stack
"message box" to 18
set the textsize of field "results" of card "multiple lines" of stack
"message box" to 18

Makes it considerably easier for my aging eyes to see.

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Richmond 
wrote:


Thank you very much.

Richmond.


On 25.08.2016 20:51, panagiotis merakos wrote:


I am not sure if this is the expected behavior (i.e. to first open the
Script Editor so as to get the msg box text colorized), so I filed a bug
to
investigate this further.

http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18265

Best,
Panos
--

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Richmond 
wrote:

Yes; you are quite right.

I opened the scriptEditor and then the messageBox.

It might not be a bad idea to put that into the documentation.

Thank you, Richmond.

On 25.08.2016 20:14, panagiotis merakos wrote:

I think you must have opened the script editor first

On 25 Aug 2016 18:11, "Richmond"  wrote:

At the risk of sounding very stupid indeed . . .


I installed 8.1.0 rc 1 and typed this into the Message Box:

put 5 into AA
add 1 to AA
put AA

and saw no colourisation at all. What did I do wrong?

Xubuntu 16.04 64-bit.

Richmond.

On 25.08.2016 17:01, panagiotis merakos wrote:

Nice to hear that, Mike. The 8.1 RC1 release is great IMO, because
apart


from 80+ bug fixes,  it contains a lot of enhancement requests,
including
keyboard navigation in the Project Browser, script colorization in the
msg
box and some more:

https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/pulls?q=is%3Apr+lab
el%3Aenhancement+milestone%3A8.1.0-rc-1+is%3Aclosed

https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pulls?q=is%3Apr+label%
3Aenhancement+milestone%3A8.1.0-rc-1+is%3Aclosed

Best,
Panos
--


On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Mike Kerner <
mikeker...@roadrunner.com
wrote:

I am really excited about 8.1.  I've been working with it for a while.

There are several nifty things in here.

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:58 AM, panagiotis merakos <
panos.mera...@livecode.com> wrote:

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1.


Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/
or

via


the automatic updater.


Release Contents

LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1 contains 85 bug fixes and new features since the
LiveCode 8.1.0 DP3 release. Moreover, this release contains many
documentation updates and engine fixes contributed by Devin Asay,
José
Antonio Meira da Rocha, Charles Warwick, msiskin, Skipis and
beda123.

Thank


you!


The full release notes are available from:
http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_0/LiveCodeNotes-

8_1_0_rc_1.pdf


Feedback



Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at
http://quality.livecode.com/

We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93


Have fun!

The LiveCode Team
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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

Richmond.. Short term you can do this..

set the textsize of field "message" of card "single line" of stack "message
box" to 18
set the textsize of field "results" of card "single line" of stack "message
box" to 18
set the textsize of field "message" of card "multiple lines" of stack
"message box" to 18
set the textsize of field "results" of card "multiple lines" of stack
"message box" to 18

Makes it considerably easier for my aging eyes to see.

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Richmond 
wrote:

> Thank you very much.
>
> Richmond.
>
>
> On 25.08.2016 20:51, panagiotis merakos wrote:
>
>> I am not sure if this is the expected behavior (i.e. to first open the
>> Script Editor so as to get the msg box text colorized), so I filed a bug
>> to
>> investigate this further.
>>
>> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18265
>>
>> Best,
>> Panos
>> --
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Richmond 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes; you are quite right.
>>>
>>> I opened the scriptEditor and then the messageBox.
>>>
>>> It might not be a bad idea to put that into the documentation.
>>>
>>> Thank you, Richmond.
>>>
>>> On 25.08.2016 20:14, panagiotis merakos wrote:
>>>
>>> I think you must have opened the script editor first
 On 25 Aug 2016 18:11, "Richmond"  wrote:

 At the risk of sounding very stupid indeed . . .

> I installed 8.1.0 rc 1 and typed this into the Message Box:
>
> put 5 into AA
> add 1 to AA
> put AA
>
> and saw no colourisation at all. What did I do wrong?
>
> Xubuntu 16.04 64-bit.
>
> Richmond.
>
> On 25.08.2016 17:01, panagiotis merakos wrote:
>
> Nice to hear that, Mike. The 8.1 RC1 release is great IMO, because
> apart
>
>> from 80+ bug fixes,  it contains a lot of enhancement requests,
>> including
>> keyboard navigation in the Project Browser, script colorization in the
>> msg
>> box and some more:
>>
>> https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/pulls?q=is%3Apr+lab
>> el%3Aenhancement+milestone%3A8.1.0-rc-1+is%3Aclosed
>>
>> https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pulls?q=is%3Apr+label%
>> 3Aenhancement+milestone%3A8.1.0-rc-1+is%3Aclosed
>>
>> Best,
>> Panos
>> --
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Mike Kerner <
>> mikeker...@roadrunner.com
>> wrote:
>>
>> I am really excited about 8.1.  I've been working with it for a while.
>>
>> There are several nifty things in here.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:58 AM, panagiotis merakos <
>>> panos.mera...@livecode.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear list members,
>>>
>>> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1.


 Getting the Release
 ===
 You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/
 or

 via

>>> the automatic updater.
>>>

 Release Contents
 
 LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1 contains 85 bug fixes and new features since the
 LiveCode 8.1.0 DP3 release. Moreover, this release contains many
 documentation updates and engine fixes contributed by Devin Asay,
 José
 Antonio Meira da Rocha, Charles Warwick, msiskin, Skipis and
 beda123.

 Thank

>>> you!
>>>
 The full release notes are available from:
 http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_0/LiveCodeNotes-

 8_1_0_rc_1.pdf

>>> Feedback
>>>
 
 Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at
 http://quality.livecode.com/

 We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
 http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93


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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

hmmm, a good idea, letting the user right-click in the message box to edit
the font sizes, or having a settings card...

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Richmond 
wrote:

> Thank you very much.
>
> Richmond.
>
>
> On 25.08.2016 20:51, panagiotis merakos wrote:
>
>> I am not sure if this is the expected behavior (i.e. to first open the
>> Script Editor so as to get the msg box text colorized), so I filed a bug
>> to
>> investigate this further.
>>
>> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18265
>>
>> Best,
>> Panos
>> --
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Richmond 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes; you are quite right.
>>>
>>> I opened the scriptEditor and then the messageBox.
>>>
>>> It might not be a bad idea to put that into the documentation.
>>>
>>> Thank you, Richmond.
>>>
>>> On 25.08.2016 20:14, panagiotis merakos wrote:
>>>
>>> I think you must have opened the script editor first
 On 25 Aug 2016 18:11, "Richmond"  wrote:

 At the risk of sounding very stupid indeed . . .

> I installed 8.1.0 rc 1 and typed this into the Message Box:
>
> put 5 into AA
> add 1 to AA
> put AA
>
> and saw no colourisation at all. What did I do wrong?
>
> Xubuntu 16.04 64-bit.
>
> Richmond.
>
> On 25.08.2016 17:01, panagiotis merakos wrote:
>
> Nice to hear that, Mike. The 8.1 RC1 release is great IMO, because
> apart
>
>> from 80+ bug fixes,  it contains a lot of enhancement requests,
>> including
>> keyboard navigation in the Project Browser, script colorization in the
>> msg
>> box and some more:
>>
>> https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/pulls?q=is%3Apr+lab
>> el%3Aenhancement+milestone%3A8.1.0-rc-1+is%3Aclosed
>>
>> https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pulls?q=is%3Apr+label%
>> 3Aenhancement+milestone%3A8.1.0-rc-1+is%3Aclosed
>>
>> Best,
>> Panos
>> --
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Mike Kerner <
>> mikeker...@roadrunner.com
>> wrote:
>>
>> I am really excited about 8.1.  I've been working with it for a while.
>>
>> There are several nifty things in here.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:58 AM, panagiotis merakos <
>>> panos.mera...@livecode.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear list members,
>>>
>>> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1.


 Getting the Release
 ===
 You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/
 or

 via

>>> the automatic updater.
>>>

 Release Contents
 
 LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1 contains 85 bug fixes and new features since the
 LiveCode 8.1.0 DP3 release. Moreover, this release contains many
 documentation updates and engine fixes contributed by Devin Asay,
 José
 Antonio Meira da Rocha, Charles Warwick, msiskin, Skipis and
 beda123.

 Thank

>>> you!
>>>
 The full release notes are available from:
 http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_0/LiveCodeNotes-

 8_1_0_rc_1.pdf

>>> Feedback
>>>
 
 Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at
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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

I am not sure if this is the expected behavior (i.e. to first open the
Script Editor so as to get the msg box text colorized), so I filed a bug to
investigate this further.

http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18265

Best,
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On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Richmond 
wrote:

> Yes; you are quite right.
>
> I opened the scriptEditor and then the messageBox.
>
> It might not be a bad idea to put that into the documentation.
>
> Thank you, Richmond.
>
> On 25.08.2016 20:14, panagiotis merakos wrote:
>
>> I think you must have opened the script editor first
>> On 25 Aug 2016 18:11, "Richmond"  wrote:
>>
>> At the risk of sounding very stupid indeed . . .
>>>
>>> I installed 8.1.0 rc 1 and typed this into the Message Box:
>>>
>>> put 5 into AA
>>> add 1 to AA
>>> put AA
>>>
>>> and saw no colourisation at all. What did I do wrong?
>>>
>>> Xubuntu 16.04 64-bit.
>>>
>>> Richmond.
>>>
>>> On 25.08.2016 17:01, panagiotis merakos wrote:
>>>
>>> Nice to hear that, Mike. The 8.1 RC1 release is great IMO, because apart
 from 80+ bug fixes,  it contains a lot of enhancement requests,
 including
 keyboard navigation in the Project Browser, script colorization in the
 msg
 box and some more:

 https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/pulls?q=is%3Apr+lab
 el%3Aenhancement+milestone%3A8.1.0-rc-1+is%3Aclosed

 https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pulls?q=is%3Apr+label%
 3Aenhancement+milestone%3A8.1.0-rc-1+is%3Aclosed

 Best,
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 On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Mike Kerner 
 wrote:

 I am really excited about 8.1.  I've been working with it for a while.

> There are several nifty things in here.
>
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:58 AM, panagiotis merakos <
> panos.mera...@livecode.com> wrote:
>
> Dear list members,
>
>> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1.
>>
>>
>> Getting the Release
>> ===
>> You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/
>> or
>>
>> via
>
> the automatic updater.
>>
>>
>> Release Contents
>> 
>> LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1 contains 85 bug fixes and new features since the
>> LiveCode 8.1.0 DP3 release. Moreover, this release contains many
>> documentation updates and engine fixes contributed by Devin Asay, José
>> Antonio Meira da Rocha, Charles Warwick, msiskin, Skipis and beda123.
>>
>> Thank
>
> you!
>>
>> The full release notes are available from:
>> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_0/LiveCodeNotes-
>>
>> 8_1_0_rc_1.pdf
>
> Feedback
>> 
>> Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at
>> http://quality.livecode.com/
>>
>> We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
>> http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93
>>
>>
>> Have fun!
>>
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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1


Colourising the messageBox is marvellous . . .

But it would be even more marvellous if one could set
the font and the font size for the messageBox like one can the scriptEditor.

Personally I find the teeny-weeny font size in the messageBox a bother: 
and I have had the font in the

scriptEditor set to 18 for the last 10 years.

Richmond.

On 25.08.2016 20:18, Richmond wrote:

Yes; you are quite right.

I opened the scriptEditor and then the messageBox.

It might not be a bad idea to put that into the documentation.

Thank you, Richmond.

On 25.08.2016 20:14, panagiotis merakos wrote:

I think you must have opened the script editor first
On 25 Aug 2016 18:11, "Richmond"  wrote:


At the risk of sounding very stupid indeed . . .

I installed 8.1.0 rc 1 and typed this into the Message Box:

put 5 into AA
add 1 to AA
put AA

and saw no colourisation at all. What did I do wrong?

Xubuntu 16.04 64-bit.

Richmond.

On 25.08.2016 17:01, panagiotis merakos wrote:

Nice to hear that, Mike. The 8.1 RC1 release is great IMO, because 
apart
from 80+ bug fixes,  it contains a lot of enhancement requests, 
including
keyboard navigation in the Project Browser, script colorization in 
the msg

box and some more:

https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/pulls?q=is%3Apr+lab
el%3Aenhancement+milestone%3A8.1.0-rc-1+is%3Aclosed

https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pulls?q=is%3Apr+label%
3Aenhancement+milestone%3A8.1.0-rc-1+is%3Aclosed

Best,
Panos
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wrote:

I am really excited about 8.1.  I've been working with it for a while.

There are several nifty things in here.

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:58 AM, panagiotis merakos <
panos.mera...@livecode.com> wrote:

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1.


Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at 
https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or



via


the automatic updater.


Release Contents

LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1 contains 85 bug fixes and new features since the
LiveCode 8.1.0 DP3 release. Moreover, this release contains many
documentation updates and engine fixes contributed by Devin Asay, 
José
Antonio Meira da Rocha, Charles Warwick, msiskin, Skipis and 
beda123.



Thank


you!

The full release notes are available from:
http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_0/LiveCodeNotes-


8_1_0_rc_1.pdf


Feedback

Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at
http://quality.livecode.com/

We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93


Have fun!

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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1


Yes; you are quite right.

I opened the scriptEditor and then the messageBox.

It might not be a bad idea to put that into the documentation.

Thank you, Richmond.

On 25.08.2016 20:14, panagiotis merakos wrote:

I think you must have opened the script editor first
On 25 Aug 2016 18:11, "Richmond"  wrote:


At the risk of sounding very stupid indeed . . .

I installed 8.1.0 rc 1 and typed this into the Message Box:

put 5 into AA
add 1 to AA
put AA

and saw no colourisation at all. What did I do wrong?

Xubuntu 16.04 64-bit.

Richmond.

On 25.08.2016 17:01, panagiotis merakos wrote:


Nice to hear that, Mike. The 8.1 RC1 release is great IMO, because apart
from 80+ bug fixes,  it contains a lot of enhancement requests, including
keyboard navigation in the Project Browser, script colorization in the msg
box and some more:

https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/pulls?q=is%3Apr+lab
el%3Aenhancement+milestone%3A8.1.0-rc-1+is%3Aclosed

https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pulls?q=is%3Apr+label%
3Aenhancement+milestone%3A8.1.0-rc-1+is%3Aclosed

Best,
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wrote:

I am really excited about 8.1.  I've been working with it for a while.

There are several nifty things in here.

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:58 AM, panagiotis merakos <
panos.mera...@livecode.com> wrote:

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1.


Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or


via


the automatic updater.


Release Contents

LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1 contains 85 bug fixes and new features since the
LiveCode 8.1.0 DP3 release. Moreover, this release contains many
documentation updates and engine fixes contributed by Devin Asay, José
Antonio Meira da Rocha, Charles Warwick, msiskin, Skipis and beda123.


Thank


you!

The full release notes are available from:
http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_0/LiveCodeNotes-


8_1_0_rc_1.pdf


Feedback

Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at
http://quality.livecode.com/

We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93


Have fun!

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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

I think you must have opened the script editor first
On 25 Aug 2016 18:11, "Richmond"  wrote:

> At the risk of sounding very stupid indeed . . .
>
> I installed 8.1.0 rc 1 and typed this into the Message Box:
>
> put 5 into AA
> add 1 to AA
> put AA
>
> and saw no colourisation at all. What did I do wrong?
>
> Xubuntu 16.04 64-bit.
>
> Richmond.
>
> On 25.08.2016 17:01, panagiotis merakos wrote:
>
>> Nice to hear that, Mike. The 8.1 RC1 release is great IMO, because apart
>> from 80+ bug fixes,  it contains a lot of enhancement requests, including
>> keyboard navigation in the Project Browser, script colorization in the msg
>> box and some more:
>>
>> https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/pulls?q=is%3Apr+lab
>> el%3Aenhancement+milestone%3A8.1.0-rc-1+is%3Aclosed
>>
>> https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pulls?q=is%3Apr+label%
>> 3Aenhancement+milestone%3A8.1.0-rc-1+is%3Aclosed
>>
>> Best,
>> Panos
>> --
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Mike Kerner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I am really excited about 8.1.  I've been working with it for a while.
>>> There are several nifty things in here.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:58 AM, panagiotis merakos <
>>> panos.mera...@livecode.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear list members,

 We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1.


 Getting the Release
 ===
 You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or

>>> via
>>>
 the automatic updater.


 Release Contents
 
 LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1 contains 85 bug fixes and new features since the
 LiveCode 8.1.0 DP3 release. Moreover, this release contains many
 documentation updates and engine fixes contributed by Devin Asay, José
 Antonio Meira da Rocha, Charles Warwick, msiskin, Skipis and beda123.

>>> Thank
>>>
 you!

 The full release notes are available from:
 http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_0/LiveCodeNotes-

>>> 8_1_0_rc_1.pdf
>>>

 Feedback
 
 Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at
 http://quality.livecode.com/

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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

At the risk of sounding very stupid indeed . . .

I installed 8.1.0 rc 1 and typed this into the Message Box:

put 5 into AA
add 1 to AA
put AA

and saw no colourisation at all. What did I do wrong?

Xubuntu 16.04 64-bit.

Richmond.

On 25.08.2016 17:01, panagiotis merakos wrote:

Nice to hear that, Mike. The 8.1 RC1 release is great IMO, because apart
from 80+ bug fixes, it contains a lot of enhancement requests, including
keyboard navigation in the Project Browser, script colorization in the msg
box and some more:

https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/pulls?q=is%3Apr+label%3Aenhancement+milestone%3A8.1.0-rc-1+is%3Aclosed

https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pulls?q=is%3Apr+label%3Aenhancement+milestone%3A8.1.0-rc-1+is%3Aclosed

Best,
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wrote:

I am really excited about 8.1. I've been working with it for a while.
There are several nifty things in here.

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:58 AM, panagiotis merakos <
panos.mera...@livecode.com> wrote:

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1.

Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or

via

the automatic updater.

Release Contents

LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1 contains 85 bug fixes and new features since the
LiveCode 8.1.0 DP3 release. Moreover, this release contains many
documentation updates and engine fixes contributed by Devin Asay, José
Antonio Meira da Rocha, Charles Warwick, msiskin, Skipis and beda123.

Thank

you!

The full release notes are available from:
http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_0/LiveCodeNotes-

8_1_0_rc_1.pdf

Feedback

Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at
http://quality.livecode.com/

We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93

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Re: Atom Issues

2016-08-25 Thread Dave Kilroy


Hi Matt - I got rid of the ugh red error popups a while back by uninstalling 
and reinstalling Atom (I suspect the linter plugin was the culprit…)


> Thanks, but that didn't change anything. 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Mike Kerner <[hidden email] 
> >
>  
> wrote: 
> 
> > Here is a partial fix for the autocomplete issues. 
> > Settings->Packages->Autocomplete-plus  Then find "Keymap for confirming a 
> > suggestion" and change it to tab, and uncheck "Automatically Confirm Single 
> > Suggestion" 
> > 
> > On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Matt Maier <[hidden email] 
> > >
> >  wrote: 
> > 
> > > I keep getting a red error popup every time I finish writing a word. It 
> > > cites the autocomplete-plus package. No idea how to get it to stop 
> > covering 
> > > half the window in red error messages. 
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Mike Kerner <[hidden email] 
> > > >
> > >  
> > > wrote: 
> > > 
> > > > I even run into this situation with enter when typing "then" for an "if 
> > > > then". 
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Mike Kerner < 
> > [hidden email] 
> > 
> >  
> > > > 
> > > > wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > > Here's another one:  Once atom memorizes a token (say, for example 
> > one 
> > > > > that's a typo, perhaps with capitalization that's wrong, because 
> > > > > capitalization matters in LCB), how do you get rid of the wrong 
> > token? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Mike Kerner < 
> > > [hidden email] 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > > wrote: 
> > > > > 
> > > > >> I'm not hitting Enter because I want to accept the suggestion.  I'm 
> > > > >> hitting Enter because I want a CR.  So Enter is more like "ignore 
> > the 
> > > > >> suggestion and give me a CR" 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Colin Holgate < 
> > > [hidden email] 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > >> wrote: 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>> That sounds like the nature of auto complete. You could work around 
> > > the 
> > > > >>> issue by using Tab to do the completing. 
> > > > >>> 
> > > > >>> 
> > > > >>> > On Aug 23, 2016, at 8:36 AM, Mike Kerner < 
> > > [hidden email] 
> > > >
> > >  
> > > > >>> wrote: 
> > > > >>> > 
> > > > >>> > Does anyone have any issues using Atom that they want to share? 
> > I 
> > > > >>> have one 
> > > > >>> > that is biting me frequently:  If Atom is trying to suggest a 
> > > token, 
> > > > >>> and I 
> > > > >>> > hit CR, I don't get a CR.  If I'm not watching, I can wind up 
> > with 
> > > > >>> several 
> > > > >>> > lines all appended together.  Instead of having to do cmd-CR to 
> > > get a 
> > > > >>> CR, 
> > > > >>> > I'd kind of like CR do to what it normally does in every other 
> > app 
> > > I 
> > > > >>> use. 
> > > > >>> > 
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> > > > >> On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, 
> > > > >>and did a little diving. 
> > > > >> And God said, "This is good." 
> > > > >> 
> > > > > 
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> > > > > On the second day, God created the oceans. 
> > > > > On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, 
> > > > >and did a little diving. 
> > > > > And God said, "This is good." 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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> > > > On the second day, God created the oceans. 
> > > > On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, 
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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

@Peter:

You are right, this should read:

"On Windows, the default value of the global dontUseQt and dontUseQtEffects
properties has changed **from false to true**.

Regarding OSX:

- If OS X version >= 10.8 then dontUseQT=true
- If LC engine == 64 bit then  dontUseQT=true


On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Peter Bogdanoff  wrote:

>
> From the release notes:
>
> "On Windows, the default value of the global dontUseQt and
> dontUseQtEffects properties has changed from true to false. This means that
> by default players created on Windows will use the DirectShow API for
> multimedia playback.”
>
> The second sentence seems to contradict the first?
>
> On OSX, QuickTime is unable to be supported in 64 bit builds the default
> value of the global dontUseQT and dontUseQTEffects properties changed in
> version 6.7; it is true on OS X version 10.8 and up, or on all versions of
> OS X if the engine is 64 bit. This means that any player object created
> will use the AVFoundation API for multimedia playback.
>
> I can’t seem to figure out what the first sentence is saying. :(  I would
> like to!
>
> Peter Bogdanoff
>
>
> On Aug 25, 2016, at 5:58 AM, panagiotis merakos <
> panos.mera...@livecode.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear list members,
> >
> > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1.
> >
>
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Re: Atom Issues

2016-08-25 Thread Matt Maier

Thanks, but that didn't change anything.

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Mike Kerner 
wrote:

> Here is a partial fix for the autocomplete issues.
> Settings->Packages->Autocomplete-plus  Then find "Keymap for confirming a
> suggestion" and change it to tab, and uncheck "Automatically Confirm Single
> Suggestion"
>
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Matt Maier  wrote:
>
> > I keep getting a red error popup every time I finish writing a word. It
> > cites the autocomplete-plus package. No idea how to get it to stop
> covering
> > half the window in red error messages.
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Mike Kerner 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I even run into this situation with enter when typing "then" for an "if
> > > then".
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Mike Kerner <
> mikeker...@roadrunner.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Here's another one:  Once atom memorizes a token (say, for example
> one
> > > > that's a typo, perhaps with capitalization that's wrong, because
> > > > capitalization matters in LCB), how do you get rid of the wrong
> token?
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Mike Kerner <
> > mikeker...@roadrunner.com
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I'm not hitting Enter because I want to accept the suggestion.  I'm
> > > >> hitting Enter because I want a CR.  So Enter is more like "ignore
> the
> > > >> suggestion and give me a CR"
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Colin Holgate <
> > colinholg...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> That sounds like the nature of auto complete. You could work around
> > the
> > > >>> issue by using Tab to do the completing.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > On Aug 23, 2016, at 8:36 AM, Mike Kerner <
> > mikeker...@roadrunner.com>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Does anyone have any issues using Atom that they want to share?
> I
> > > >>> have one
> > > >>> > that is biting me frequently:  If Atom is trying to suggest a
> > token,
> > > >>> and I
> > > >>> > hit CR, I don't get a CR.  If I'm not watching, I can wind up
> with
> > > >>> several
> > > >>> > lines all appended together.  Instead of having to do cmd-CR to
> > get a
> > > >>> CR,
> > > >>> > I'd kind of like CR do to what it normally does in every other
> app
> > I
> > > >>> use.
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> > > >> On the second day, God created the oceans.
> > > >> On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours,
> > > >>and did a little diving.
> > > >> And God said, "This is good."
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > > On the second day, God created the oceans.
> > > > On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours,
> > > >and did a little diving.
> > > > And God said, "This is good."
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > On the second day, God created the oceans.
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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Peter Bogdanoff

>From the release notes:

"On Windows, the default value of the global dontUseQt and dontUseQtEffects 
properties has changed from true to false. This means that by default players 
created on Windows will use the DirectShow API for multimedia playback.”

The second sentence seems to contradict the first?

On OSX, QuickTime is unable to be supported in 64 bit builds the default value 
of the global dontUseQT and dontUseQTEffects properties changed in version 6.7; 
it is true on OS X version 10.8 and up, or on all versions of OS X if the 
engine is 64 bit. This means that any player object created will use the 
AVFoundation API for multimedia playback.

I can’t seem to figure out what the first sentence is saying. :(  I would like 
to!

Peter Bogdanoff

On Aug 25, 2016, at 5:58 AM, panagiotis merakos  
wrote:

> Dear list members,
> 
> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1.
> 

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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

Hopefully, soon, we'll get script color printing back, too.
8 is

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 10:01 AM, panagiotis merakos 
wrote:

> Nice to hear that, Mike. The 8.1 RC1 release is great IMO, because apart
> from 80+ bug fixes,  it contains a lot of enhancement requests, including
> keyboard navigation in the Project Browser, script colorization in the msg
> box and some more:
>
> https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/pulls?q=is%3Apr+
> label%3Aenhancement+milestone%3A8.1.0-rc-1+is%3Aclosed
>
> https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pulls?q=is%3Apr+
> label%3Aenhancement+milestone%3A8.1.0-rc-1+is%3Aclosed
>
> Best,
> Panos
> --
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Mike Kerner 
> wrote:
>
> > I am really excited about 8.1.  I've been working with it for a while.
> > There are several nifty things in here.
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:58 AM, panagiotis merakos <
> > panos.mera...@livecode.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear list members,
> > >
> > > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1.
> > >
> > >
> > > Getting the Release
> > > ===
> > > You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or
> > via
> > > the automatic updater.
> > >
> > >
> > > Release Contents
> > > 
> > > LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1 contains 85 bug fixes and new features since the
> > > LiveCode 8.1.0 DP3 release. Moreover, this release contains many
> > > documentation updates and engine fixes contributed by Devin Asay, José
> > > Antonio Meira da Rocha, Charles Warwick, msiskin, Skipis and beda123.
> > Thank
> > > you!
> > >
> > > The full release notes are available from:
> > > http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_0/LiveCodeNotes-
> > 8_1_0_rc_1.pdf
> > >
> > >
> > > Feedback
> > > 
> > > Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at
> > > http://quality.livecode.com/
> > >
> > > We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
> > > http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93
> > >
> > >
> > > Have fun!
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Re: Very OT - Bad pun


I once knew a bloke whose family name was Cholmondley-Featherstonehaugh,
which was pronounced: 'chumley - fanshawe'.

Mind you with a name as posh as that one would have to be a bit careful 
if one described

him as a 'bloke'.

R.

On 25.08.2016 18:33, Colin Holgate wrote:

Not as bad as when I lived in Worcestershire.



On Aug 25, 2016, at 8:28 AM, David V Glasgow  wrote:

I use to live in Leicestershire …



On 25 Aug 2016, at 4:25 pm, Bob Sneidar  wrote:

Not even the French could pronounce a word so different from how it is spelled. 
(I'm half French so I can make fun of us).

Bob S



On Aug 23, 2016, at 14:29 , stephen barncard  
wrote:

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Richmond 
wrote:


Well, as most North Americans seem to pronounce "Edinburgh" as "Edinbro" .
. .


I pronounced it ED-IN-BURG for years

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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Mark Talluto


> On Aug 25, 2016, at 5:58 AM, panagiotis merakos  
> wrote:
> 
> Dear list members,
> 
> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1.


Thanks! This is wonderful.


Best regards,

Mark Talluto
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Re: Atom Issues

Here is a partial fix for the autocomplete issues.
Settings->Packages->Autocomplete-plus  Then find "Keymap for confirming a
suggestion" and change it to tab, and uncheck "Automatically Confirm Single
Suggestion"

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Matt Maier  wrote:

> I keep getting a red error popup every time I finish writing a word. It
> cites the autocomplete-plus package. No idea how to get it to stop covering
> half the window in red error messages.
>
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Mike Kerner 
> wrote:
>
> > I even run into this situation with enter when typing "then" for an "if
> > then".
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Mike Kerner  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Here's another one:  Once atom memorizes a token (say, for example one
> > > that's a typo, perhaps with capitalization that's wrong, because
> > > capitalization matters in LCB), how do you get rid of the wrong token?
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Mike Kerner <
> mikeker...@roadrunner.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'm not hitting Enter because I want to accept the suggestion.  I'm
> > >> hitting Enter because I want a CR.  So Enter is more like "ignore the
> > >> suggestion and give me a CR"
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Colin Holgate <
> colinholg...@gmail.com
> > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> That sounds like the nature of auto complete. You could work around
> the
> > >>> issue by using Tab to do the completing.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> > On Aug 23, 2016, at 8:36 AM, Mike Kerner <
> mikeker...@roadrunner.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Does anyone have any issues using Atom that they want to share?  I
> > >>> have one
> > >>> > that is biting me frequently:  If Atom is trying to suggest a
> token,
> > >>> and I
> > >>> > hit CR, I don't get a CR.  If I'm not watching, I can wind up with
> > >>> several
> > >>> > lines all appended together.  Instead of having to do cmd-CR to
> get a
> > >>> CR,
> > >>> > I'd kind of like CR do to what it normally does in every other app
> I
> > >>> use.
> > >>> >
> > >>>
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> > >> On the second day, God created the oceans.
> > >> On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours,
> > >>and did a little diving.
> > >> And God said, "This is good."
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth
> > > On the second day, God created the oceans.
> > > On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours,
> > >and did a little diving.
> > > And God said, "This is good."
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > On the second day, God created the oceans.
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Re: Very OT - Bad pun

2016-08-25 Thread Tore Nilsen

I guess Gloucestershire is only marginally better?

Tore
> 25. aug. 2016 kl. 17.28 skrev David V Glasgow :
> 
> I use to live in Leicestershire …
> 
> 
>> On 25 Aug 2016, at 4:25 pm, Bob Sneidar  wrote:
>> 
>> Not even the French could pronounce a word so different from how it is 
>> spelled. (I'm half French so I can make fun of us). 
>> 
>> Bob S
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 23, 2016, at 14:29 , stephen barncard 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Richmond 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Well, as most North Americans seem to pronounce "Edinburgh" as "Edinbro" .
 . .
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I pronounced it ED-IN-BURG for years
>>> 
>>> Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
>>> mixstream.org
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Re: Very OT - Bad pun

2016-08-25 Thread Colin Holgate

Not as bad as when I lived in Worcestershire.


> On Aug 25, 2016, at 8:28 AM, David V Glasgow  wrote:
> 
> I use to live in Leicestershire …
> 
> 
>> On 25 Aug 2016, at 4:25 pm, Bob Sneidar  wrote:
>> 
>> Not even the French could pronounce a word so different from how it is 
>> spelled. (I'm half French so I can make fun of us). 
>> 
>> Bob S
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 23, 2016, at 14:29 , stephen barncard 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Richmond 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Well, as most North Americans seem to pronounce "Edinburgh" as "Edinbro" .
 . .
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I pronounced it ED-IN-BURG for years
>>> 
>>> Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
>>> mixstream.org
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Re: Very OT - Bad pun

2016-08-25 Thread David V Glasgow

I use to live in Leicestershire …


> On 25 Aug 2016, at 4:25 pm, Bob Sneidar  wrote:
> 
> Not even the French could pronounce a word so different from how it is 
> spelled. (I'm half French so I can make fun of us). 
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 
>> On Aug 23, 2016, at 14:29 , stephen barncard 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Richmond 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, as most North Americans seem to pronounce "Edinburgh" as "Edinbro" .
>>> . .
>> 
>> 
>> I pronounced it ED-IN-BURG for years
>> 
>> Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
>> mixstream.org
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Re: Very OT - Bad pun

2016-08-25 Thread Bob Sneidar

Not even the French could pronounce a word so different from how it is spelled. 
(I'm half French so I can make fun of us). 

Bob S


> On Aug 23, 2016, at 14:29 , stephen barncard 
>  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Richmond 
> wrote:
> 
>> Well, as most North Americans seem to pronounce "Edinburgh" as "Edinbro" .
>> . .
> 
> 
> I pronounced it ED-IN-BURG for years
> 
> Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

Nice to hear that, Mike. The 8.1 RC1 release is great IMO, because apart
from 80+ bug fixes,  it contains a lot of enhancement requests, including
keyboard navigation in the Project Browser, script colorization in the msg
box and some more:

https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/pulls?q=is%3Apr+label%3Aenhancement+milestone%3A8.1.0-rc-1+is%3Aclosed

https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pulls?q=is%3Apr+label%3Aenhancement+milestone%3A8.1.0-rc-1+is%3Aclosed

Best,
Panos
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On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Mike Kerner 
wrote:

> I am really excited about 8.1.  I've been working with it for a while.
> There are several nifty things in here.
>
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:58 AM, panagiotis merakos <
> panos.mera...@livecode.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear list members,
> >
> > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1.
> >
> >
> > Getting the Release
> > ===
> > You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or
> via
> > the automatic updater.
> >
> >
> > Release Contents
> > 
> > LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1 contains 85 bug fixes and new features since the
> > LiveCode 8.1.0 DP3 release. Moreover, this release contains many
> > documentation updates and engine fixes contributed by Devin Asay, José
> > Antonio Meira da Rocha, Charles Warwick, msiskin, Skipis and beda123.
> Thank
> > you!
> >
> > The full release notes are available from:
> > http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_0/LiveCodeNotes-
> 8_1_0_rc_1.pdf
> >
> >
> > Feedback
> > 
> > Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at
> > http://quality.livecode.com/
> >
> > We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
> > http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93
> >
> >
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Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

I am really excited about 8.1.  I've been working with it for a while.
There are several nifty things in here.

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:58 AM, panagiotis merakos <
panos.mera...@livecode.com> wrote:

> Dear list members,
>
> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1.
>
>
> Getting the Release
> ===
> You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via
> the automatic updater.
>
>
> Release Contents
> 
> LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1 contains 85 bug fixes and new features since the
> LiveCode 8.1.0 DP3 release. Moreover, this release contains many
> documentation updates and engine fixes contributed by Devin Asay, José
> Antonio Meira da Rocha, Charles Warwick, msiskin, Skipis and beda123. Thank
> you!
>
> The full release notes are available from:
> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_0/LiveCodeNotes-8_1_0_rc_1.pdf
>
>
> Feedback
> 
> Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at
> http://quality.livecode.com/
>
> We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
> http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93
>
>
> Have fun!
>
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[ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1