Re: Libraries To Contribute

2017-03-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Very true - I wasn't thinking of links, and I didn't even think of trying
to do it with the command-line.  I would like it to be cross-platform - at
least for desktops, but that's a good idea.  I line to figure out the
platform, and then a shell command would get it done, now wouldn't it?

On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > I went looking, today, for a routine to recursively copy folders and
> files
> > from one place to another.  I have several LC libraries, but none of them
> > seemed to have such a routine.  All of those libraries are in stacks.
> >
>
> unless you're using ms windows (*hiss*),
>
> scp -rp some/folder/path target/parent/directory
>
>
> does the trick, and can be called by shell.
>
> For that matter, it's the only decent way I know to keep symlinks and the
> like intact withot "something weird" happening
>
>
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Re: D3 LiveCode Chart Examples

2017-03-24 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 12:06 AM, Todd Fabacher via use-livecode <
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> On Facebook people had expressed a desire to work with D3 and LiveCode. So,
> here is the D3 LiveCode Chart Examples on github:
> https://github.com/digitalpomegranate/D3-Livecode-Charts


Hi Todd,

Thanks for putting this up on GitHub. I have a favor to ask. Would you be
willing to change the extension of the file from .livecode to
.livecodescript?

.livecodescript is the extension that has been adopted by the mothership
for script only stacks. I've been using it myself along with others.
Recently I started looking at how to get LiveCode added as a supported
language to GitHub. I was pleased to find out that they pull syntax
coloring from a TextMate bundle. I was sad to see that in order to accept a
new language (in most cases at least) GitHub prefers to see it in
widespread use.

If everyone who posts files to GitHub differentiates binary stacks from
script only stacks using the extension then it will be helpful going
forward. As part of the submission process you have to send a search to
them that shows how often the language extension is used. A search that
doesn't show binary files would need to be submitted so the search would
filter by .livecodescript.

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Re: D3 LiveCode Chart Examples

2017-03-24 Thread Mark Talluto via use-livecode
> 
> On Mar 23, 2017, at 10:06 PM, Todd Fabacher via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> On Facebook people had expressed a desire to work with D3 and LiveCode. So,
> here is the D3 LiveCode Chart Examples on github:
> https://github.com/digitalpomegranate/D3-Livecode-Charts
> 
> --Todd Fabacher & Digital Pomegranate Tame

Really useful Todd! Thanks for this.


Best regards,

Mark Talluto
livecloud.io
canelasoftware.com




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Re: DragDrop makes windows unresponsive OS X

2017-03-24 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I'll give that a go. 

Bob S


> On Mar 24, 2017, at 14:50 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> The theory is that something is interfering with the drop, so altering the 
> text after the drop completes might fix it. Could be a bug, but using "send" 
> may work around it.


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Re: DragDrop makes windows unresponsive OS X

2017-03-24 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
The theory is that something is interfering with the drop, so altering 
the text after the drop completes might fix it. Could be a bug, but 
using "send" may work around it.


On 3/24/17 4:38 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

In that case sending would only replace the dropped text. No point in
that. The text is getting into the field using either method. It's
just that the window controls become unresponsive like they might if
a script was still running. Why moving a window or switching focus
would clear the condition I do not know.



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Re: DragDrop makes windows unresponsive OS X

2017-03-24 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
In that case sending would only replace the dropped text. No point in that. The 
text is getting into the field using either method. It's just that the window 
controls become unresponsive like they might if a script was still running. Why 
moving a window or switching focus would clear the condition I do not know. 

Bob S


> On Mar 24, 2017, at 14:34 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Try the "send" method then, which updates the text after the drop.
> 
> On 3/24/17 3:47 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
>> Whoops! Spoke too soon. Still makes the window unresponsive.
>> Apparently the problem is intermittent. But it also looks like exit
>> to top without allowing the drop is the only reliable solution.
>> 
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Re: iOS SDK Question

2017-03-24 Thread Glen Bojsza via use-livecode
I'm not sure so I am waiting to hear from Livecode support. 

But Pycharm tried a system where users would lose their ability to continually 
use the product after licenses expired and the users revolted and Pycharm 
reversed their policy.

I guess it comes to the question of how you want to work with your user base.

Once I get an answer I will post it here to confirm what the situation is.

Glen

> On Mar 24, 2017, at 4:36 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> It was explained to me that when the license expires, I would be unable to 
> use the indy license for existing installations of Livecode, which shocked me 
> as this was a departure from prior policy, but that horse has been beaten 
> despite it's lifeless condition. 
> 
> I might be mistaken. It may only mean I cannot create standalones and 
> download any versions released after the license expiry. 
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 
>> On Mar 24, 2017, at 11:14 , Glen Bojsza via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> As I mentioned previously...I do not have an active subscription.
>> 
>> My license expired August 2016. 
>> 
>> When I log into my account the highest version of Livecode Indy that shows I 
>> can download is 8.1.3.
>> 
>> I even tried activating a 7 version of Livecode which was a year prior to my 
>> license expiring and it fails.
>> 
>> But I believe that I should still be able to use the Livecode Indy version 
>> that was covered prior to expiration. Hence, my email to Livecode support in 
>> asking what is the highest Livecode version that I can still use.
>> 
>> Glen
> 
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Re: DragDrop makes windows unresponsive OS X

2017-03-24 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

Try the "send" method then, which updates the text after the drop.

On 3/24/17 3:47 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

Whoops! Spoke too soon. Still makes the window unresponsive.
Apparently the problem is intermittent. But it also looks like exit
to top without allowing the drop is the only reliable solution.



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Re: DragDrop makes windows unresponsive OS X

2017-03-24 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
No, because the problem apparently happens AFTER the text is placed. Everything 
works, I just cannot manipulate any controls until I either move the window or 
select something ANYTHING, even a different program (window loses focus). 

Bob S


> On Mar 24, 2017, at 14:02 , Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> would using "set the text of me" rather than "put into me" make a
> difference?


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Re: Libraries To Contribute

2017-03-24 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I went looking, today, for a routine to recursively copy folders and files
> from one place to another.  I have several LC libraries, but none of them
> seemed to have such a routine.  All of those libraries are in stacks.
>

unless you're using ms windows (*hiss*),

scp -rp some/folder/path target/parent/directory


does the trick, and can be called by shell.

For that matter, it's the only decent way I know to keep symlinks and the
like intact withot "something weird" happening


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Re: DragDrop makes windows unresponsive OS X

2017-03-24 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
would using "set the text of me" rather than "put into me" make a
difference?

On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 1:47 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Whoops! Spoke too soon. Still makes the window unresponsive. Apparently
> the problem is intermittent. But it also looks like exit to top without
> allowing the drop is the only reliable solution.
>
> Bob S
>
>
> > On Mar 24, 2017, at 13:33 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > So here is the new code and this works a peach!
>
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Re: DragDrop makes windows unresponsive OS X

2017-03-24 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Whoops! Spoke too soon. Still makes the window unresponsive. Apparently the 
problem is intermittent. But it also looks like exit to top without allowing 
the drop is the only reliable solution. 

Bob S


> On Mar 24, 2017, at 13:33 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> So here is the new code and this works a peach!


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Re: iOS SDK Question

2017-03-24 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
It was explained to me that when the license expires, I would be unable to use 
the indy license for existing installations of Livecode, which shocked me as 
this was a departure from prior policy, but that horse has been beaten despite 
it's lifeless condition. 

I might be mistaken. It may only mean I cannot create standalones and download 
any versions released after the license expiry. 

Bob S


> On Mar 24, 2017, at 11:14 , Glen Bojsza via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> As I mentioned previously...I do not have an active subscription.
> 
> My license expired August 2016. 
> 
> When I log into my account the highest version of Livecode Indy that shows I 
> can download is 8.1.3.
> 
> I even tried activating a 7 version of Livecode which was a year prior to my 
> license expiring and it fails.
> 
> But I believe that I should still be able to use the Livecode Indy version 
> that was covered prior to expiration. Hence, my email to Livecode support in 
> asking what is the highest Livecode version that I can still use.
> 
> Glen


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Re: DragDrop makes windows unresponsive OS X

2017-03-24 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Interesting. I added the exit to top yesterday because it seemed to fix the 
responsiveness problem. It has been working without exit to top and pass 
dragdrop of over 2 years. I think it's because I am not acually allowing the 
drop to happen, but rather intercepting it, getting the dragData ["text"] and 
entering it into the field by script (would that be scripturally??) which might 
explain why the window becomes unresponsive the way I am doing it. The drop 
never *actually* happens, and that explains why exit to top corrects the issue. 

So here is the new code and this works a peach!

on dragDrop
   put cleanASCII(the dragData ["text"], cModeList, cCustomChars) into tDragData
   put titleCase(tDragData, false) into tDragData -- capitalize first letter of 
each word
   set the dragData ["text"] to tDragData
   pass dragDrop
end dragDrop

The trick then is to allow the drop to happen, but clean up the dragData 
["text"] first! Now it makes perfect sense. Thanks Jacque! Now I get to 
refactor the refactored refactorization that was initially refactored some time 
ago. 

Bob S


> On Mar 24, 2017, at 12:21 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> The first thing to try would be replacing "exit to top" with "pass dragdrop". 
> If you don't pass the command, the drop doesn't happen.


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Re: DragDrop makes windows unresponsive OS X

2017-03-24 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

On 3/24/17 1:03 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

constant cModeList = "uppercase,lowercase,numbers,custom"
constant cCustomChars = "!#$%&'*+-/=?^_`{|}~.@"

on dragDrop
   put cleanASCII(the dragData ["text"], cModeList, cCustomChars) into me
   exit to top
end dragDrop


The first thing to try would be replacing "exit to top" with "pass 
dragdrop". If you don't pass the command, the drop doesn't happen.


Everything below is off the top of my head, untested, but here are some 
general ideas.


If "pass" doesn't work, try:

on dragDrop
  put the dragData ["text"] into tText
  set the dragData ["text"] to cleanASCII(tText, cModeList, cCustomChars)
  pass dragDrop
end dragDrop

And if that doesn't work, try:

on dragDrop
  put the dragData ["text"] into tText
  send "cleanUp tText" to me in 0
  pass dragDrop
end dragDrop

on cleanUp pText
  put cleanASCII(me, cModeList, cCustomChars) into me
end cleanUp


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Re: nabble babble

2017-03-24 Thread Roger Eller via use-livecode
I'm not sure what you mean.  I just type my search terms and include the
year if I want more recent results.

https://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=AirLaunch+2017=use-livecode%40lists.runrev.com


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> On 3/24/17 12:19 PM, Roger Eller via use-livecode wrote:
>
>> I have always used "the mail archive" site as my X-Talk Time Machine.
>>
>
> How do you search? I've never found a good way to do that in the
> "official" archives.
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Re: nabble babble

2017-03-24 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

On 3/24/17 12:19 PM, Roger Eller via use-livecode wrote:

I have always used "the mail archive" site as my X-Talk Time Machine.


How do you search? I've never found a good way to do that in the 
"official" archives.


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Re: Magnification

2017-03-24 Thread Jim Lambert via use-livecode
> Vokey, John wrote:
> ...the ability to magnify those images... I am seeking the code in a bit of a 
> rush.

This may also help:
http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=7=8288 


Jim Lambert

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Re: iOS SDK Question

2017-03-24 Thread Glen Bojsza via use-livecode
As I mentioned previously...I do not have an active subscription.

My license expired August 2016. 

When I log into my account the highest version of Livecode Indy that shows I 
can download is 8.1.3.

I even tried activating a 7 version of Livecode which was a year prior to my 
license expiring and it fails.

But I believe that I should still be able to use the Livecode Indy version that 
was covered prior to expiration. Hence, my email to Livecode support in asking 
what is the highest Livecode version that I can still use.

Glen

> On Mar 24, 2017, at 1:17 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think that if you log into your account area, you should see all the LC
> versions you can access with your current license.
> 
> If you have an active subscription to Indy then you should be able to
> activate any of them.
> 
> I suggest you just download and try, or log into your account area to see.
> 
> Best,
> Panos
> --
> 
> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Glen Bojsza via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> I believe it may be the last paid version that I have a license for (I
>> sent a message to Livecode support to confirm what the highest paid version
>> I have access to).
>> 
>> Glen
>> 
>>> On Mar 24, 2017, at 12:58 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> @Glen
>>> 
>>> Why are you still using LC 8.0.1? I suggest you download the latest
>> stable
>>> version, currently 8.1.3:
>>> 
>>> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/
>>> 
>>> Note that 8.1.3 on OS X 10.11.x will require Xcode 8.2.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Panos
>>> --
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Paul Hibbert via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
 
>> On 23 Mar 2017, at 17:36, Glen Bojsza via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Please let me know if I missed anything.
 
 
 It looks like you are on the right path. Hope it goes well.
 
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Re: DragDrop makes windows unresponsive OS X

2017-03-24 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Here is a handler in a field script. The exit to top is necessary because of 
the issue. The source can be an email from the Mail app, or it can be text from 
an OCR'd PDF. The CleanASCII function is necessary because Acrobat will insert 
non-printing characters for what reason I do not know, that will crash 
Livecode. Since the issue occurs no matter the source, I do not think it's the 
nature of the data, especially since the data gets put into the field, so all 
functions have clearly returned (otherwise it would never see exit to top). 

constant cModeList = "uppercase,lowercase,numbers,custom"
constant cCustomChars = "!#$%&'*+-/=?^_`{|}~.@"

on dragDrop
   put cleanASCII(the dragData ["text"], cModeList, cCustomChars) into me
   exit to top
end dragDrop

> On Mar 24, 2017, at 09:51 , Paul Hibbert via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Just tried a simple test on Mac OS Sierra / LC8.1.3 and it seems to work fine 
> here. Is there anything else that could be interfering with the dragDrop?
> 
> Maybe the Message Watcher could give a clue as to what is happening.
> 
> Paul


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Re: nabble babble

2017-03-24 Thread Roger Eller via use-livecode
I have always used "the mail archive" site as my X-Talk Time Machine.

LIVECODE
https://www.mail-archive.com/use-livecode@lists.runrev.com/

REVOLUTION
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METACARD
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> -- Tom B.
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Re: iOS SDK Question

2017-03-24 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
I think that if you log into your account area, you should see all the LC
versions you can access with your current license.

If you have an active subscription to Indy then you should be able to
activate any of them.

I suggest you just download and try, or log into your account area to see.

Best,
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> I believe it may be the last paid version that I have a license for (I
> sent a message to Livecode support to confirm what the highest paid version
> I have access to).
>
> Glen
>
> > On Mar 24, 2017, at 12:58 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > @Glen
> >
> > Why are you still using LC 8.0.1? I suggest you download the latest
> stable
> > version, currently 8.1.3:
> >
> > http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/
> >
> > Note that 8.1.3 on OS X 10.11.x will require Xcode 8.2.
> >
> > Best regards,
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> >>
>  On 23 Mar 2017, at 17:36, Glen Bojsza via use-livecode <
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> >>
> >>
> >> It looks like you are on the right path. Hope it goes well.
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Re: iOS SDK Question

2017-03-24 Thread Glen Bojsza via use-livecode
I believe it may be the last paid version that I have a license for (I sent a 
message to Livecode support to confirm what the highest paid version I have 
access to).

Glen

> On Mar 24, 2017, at 12:58 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> @Glen
> 
> Why are you still using LC 8.0.1? I suggest you download the latest stable
> version, currently 8.1.3:
> 
> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/
> 
> Note that 8.1.3 on OS X 10.11.x will require Xcode 8.2.
> 
> Best regards,
> Panos
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> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Paul Hibbert via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
 On 23 Mar 2017, at 17:36, Glen Bojsza via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Please let me know if I missed anything.
>> 
>> 
>> It looks like you are on the right path. Hope it goes well.
>> 
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Re: iOS SDK Question

2017-03-24 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
@Glen

Why are you still using LC 8.0.1? I suggest you download the latest stable
version, currently 8.1.3:

http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/

Note that 8.1.3 on OS X 10.11.x will require Xcode 8.2.

Best regards,
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> > On 23 Mar 2017, at 17:36, Glen Bojsza via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Please let me know if I missed anything.
>
>
> It looks like you are on the right path. Hope it goes well.
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Re: iOS SDK Question

2017-03-24 Thread Paul Hibbert via use-livecode

> On 23 Mar 2017, at 17:36, Glen Bojsza via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Please let me know if I missed anything.


It looks like you are on the right path. Hope it goes well.

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Re: DragDrop makes windows unresponsive OS X

2017-03-24 Thread Paul Hibbert via use-livecode
Just tried a simple test on Mac OS Sierra / LC8.1.3 and it seems to work fine 
here. Is there anything else that could be interfering with the dragDrop?

Maybe the Message Watcher could give a clue as to what is happening.

Paul

> On 24 Mar 2017, at 08:00, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
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> 
> Hi all. 
> 
> Might just be me. I drag drop text onto a field with a dragdrop handler that 
> essentially puts the drag data ["text"] into itself. Doing so with 8.1.3 
> seems to cause the window to become unresponsive, that is none of the 
> controls work. I cannot click in fields, tab around, click buttons etc. 
> However if I navigate to another window, and then back again it becomes 
> responsive. Also, if I move the window with the title bar, it becomes 
> responsive again. Finally, if I exit to top at the end of the dragdrop 
> handler, THAT makes the window responsive. It's as though the dragdrop 
> message is still in effect in limbo somewhere. 
> 
> This seems to be a somewhat recent development. That is, I don't think it has 
> always been this way. Particularly in 8.0.x and prior, but I could not pin it 
> down to a minor version. 
> 
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Re: nabble babble

2017-03-24 Thread tbodine via use-livecode
Thanks for that, James. Nice to be able to see who said what again.
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DragDrop makes windows unresponsive OS X

2017-03-24 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Hi all. 

Might just be me. I drag drop text onto a field with a dragdrop handler that 
essentially puts the drag data ["text"] into itself. Doing so with 8.1.3 seems 
to cause the window to become unresponsive, that is none of the controls work. 
I cannot click in fields, tab around, click buttons etc. However if I navigate 
to another window, and then back again it becomes responsive. Also, if I move 
the window with the title bar, it becomes responsive again. Finally, if I exit 
to top at the end of the dragdrop handler, THAT makes the window responsive. 
It's as though the dragdrop message is still in effect in limbo somewhere. 

This seems to be a somewhat recent development. That is, I don't think it has 
always been this way. Particularly in 8.0.x and prior, but I could not pin it 
down to a minor version. 

Bob S



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Re: Magnification

2017-03-24 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

Vokey, John wrote:

> I am working on a stack that has reduced images on a card, but I want
> the user to have the ability to magnify those images (at least the
> part they are hovering over) as they hover over them.  But, not the
> card images, but the real higher resolution images stored in separate
> files.  I suspect there some among you who have done this: I am
> seeking the code in a bit of a rush.

This is half-baked and may not work at all on your system, but hopefully 
at least some of the magnification routine (which needs a tweak to 
better maintain proportion) will be useful to get you started:


http://fourthworld.net/channels/lc/4wLoupe.livecode

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Re: D3 LiveCode Chart Examples

2017-03-24 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

Todd Fabacher wrote:

> On Facebook people had expressed a desire to work with D3 and
> LiveCode. So, here is the D3 LiveCode Chart Examples on github:
> https://github.com/digitalpomegranate/D3-Livecode-Charts

Thanks, Todd.

It seems the LICENSE file is missing from that repo.

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AW: differences between text/imagedata of image in LC6/8

2017-03-24 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
Thank you for the comprehensive explanation!
Tiemo

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Gesendet: Freitag, 24. März 2017 11:58
An: How to use LiveCode 
Cc: Mark Waddingham 
Betreff: Re: differences between text/imagedata of image in LC6/8

Hi Tiemo,

> in an old program I obviously tried to be very technically over 
> correct when copying an image and did:
> 
> 1.   set the imagedata of img 2 to the imagedata of img 1
> 
> This worked up to LC 6.7. In LC8/9 I get a corrupted image (black and
> stripes) in the target image.

The imageData of an image is the extracted color values for the pixels in
the image. Specifically, it is a sequence of bytes with each pixel
represented as xRGB. These are the bytes which are applied to the screen
when the image is rendered and does not include any alpha data (which is
specified using the alphaData property). To set the imageData you need to
set the width and height of the field first.

> What works in LC8/9 is
> 
> 2.   set the text of img 2 to the text of img 1
> 
> and
> 
> 3.   put img 1 into img 2

Both of these do the same thing - (3) is short hand for (1).

The 'text' of an image is the original image data from a format such as PNG,
GIF etc.
i.e. the content of a PNG file or GIF file.

> What is the correct syntax today? Is solution 2 and 3 the same and 
> just an alias (what it seems to me) or are there differences in 
> details I do not see?

In general, (2) or (3) is better than (1) as (1) is considered an 'image
editing'
operation and as such will cause a recompression of the data in some
fashion. Also
(2) and (3) will automatically set the size, and alpha channel of the image
appropriately.

> And is there any explanation why the upward compatibility of solution 
> 1 is broken?

If there is a difference here then it is a bug - although please do check
that the width/height of the image is the same, and also transfer across
alphaData too.

I'd recommend using (2) or (3) - or, indeed, using referenced files instead.
The engine will automatically cache referenced images and share the
underlying decompressed data.
i.e.

set the filename of image 1 to "foo"
set the filename of image 2 to "foo"

Will first resolve "foo" as an absolute path, load that image file into a
cache if not already present and attach the decompressed image data to the
image object. Then, when the second image's filename is set, it will find
the image is already in the cache and just use the decompressed image data
attached to that file in the cache.
i.e. The two images share the same pixel data in memory.

Warmest Regards,

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Re: differences between text/imagedata of image in LC6/8 (EDIT)

2017-03-24 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode

On 2017-03-24 11:58, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:

What works in LC8/9 is

2.   set the text of img 2 to the text of img 1

and

3.   put img 1 into img 2


Both of these do the same thing - (3) is short hand for (1).


I mean (3) is short-hand for (2) here!

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Re: differences between text/imagedata of image in LC6/8

2017-03-24 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode

Hi Tiemo,

in an old program I obviously tried to be very technically over correct 
when

copying an image and did:

1.   set the imagedata of img 2 to the imagedata of img 1

This worked up to LC 6.7. In LC8/9 I get a corrupted image (black and
stripes) in the target image.


The imageData of an image is the extracted color values for the pixels 
in the
image. Specifically, it is a sequence of bytes with each pixel 
represented as
xRGB. These are the bytes which are applied to the screen when the image 
is
rendered and does not include any alpha data (which is specified using 
the
alphaData property). To set the imageData you need to set the width and 
height

of the field first.


What works in LC8/9 is

2.   set the text of img 2 to the text of img 1

and

3.   put img 1 into img 2


Both of these do the same thing - (3) is short hand for (1).

The 'text' of an image is the original image data from a format such as 
PNG, GIF etc.

i.e. the content of a PNG file or GIF file.

What is the correct syntax today? Is solution 2 and 3 the same and just 
an
alias (what it seems to me) or are there differences in details I do 
not

see?


In general, (2) or (3) is better than (1) as (1) is considered an 'image 
editing'
operation and as such will cause a recompression of the data in some 
fashion. Also
(2) and (3) will automatically set the size, and alpha channel of the 
image appropriately.


And is there any explanation why the upward compatibility of solution 1 
is

broken?


If there is a difference here then it is a bug - although please do 
check that the width/height of the image is the same, and also transfer 
across alphaData too.


I'd recommend using (2) or (3) - or, indeed, using referenced files 
instead. The engine
will automatically cache referenced images and share the underlying 
decompressed data.

i.e.

   set the filename of image 1 to "foo"
   set the filename of image 2 to "foo"

Will first resolve "foo" as an absolute path, load that image file into 
a cache if not
already present and attach the decompressed image data to the image 
object. Then, when
the second image's filename is set, it will find the image is already in 
the cache and

just use the decompressed image data attached to that file in the cache.
i.e. The two images share the same pixel data in memory.

Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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differences between text/imagedata of image in LC6/8

2017-03-24 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
Hello,

in an old program I obviously tried to be very technically over correct when
copying an image and did:

1.   set the imagedata of img 2 to the imagedata of img 1

This worked up to LC 6.7. In LC8/9 I get a corrupted image (black and
stripes) in the target image.

What works in LC8/9 is

2.   set the text of img 2 to the text of img 1

and

3.   put img 1 into img 2

What is the correct syntax today? Is solution 2 and 3 the same and just an
alias (what it seems to me) or are there differences in details I do not
see?

And is there any explanation why the upward compatibility of solution 1 is
broken?

Thanks

Tiemo

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Magnification

2017-03-24 Thread Vokey, John via use-livecode
I am working on a stack that has reduced images on a card, but I want the user 
to have the ability to magnify those images (at least the part they are 
hovering over) as they hover over them.  But, not the card images, but the real 
higher resolution images stored in separate files.  I suspect there some among 
you who have done this: I am seeking the code in a bit of a rush.


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