Re: LC-apps for HC

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

Someone on the HC list did just that many years ago using MC. I don't think 
he ever finished it though, it turned out to be a lot of work and there was 
little interest by then.


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On December 2, 2018 7:56:52 PM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
 wrote:



Ingar Roggen:

> ...why not elaborate it to the tool, the app needed to make HC easily
> portable to LC and thereby accessible "to the rest of us" again?
> Anybody takes the challenge?

One could make HC's interface in LC. Anyone game?

I once thought about doing it myself...
http://livecodejournal.com/features/the-true-power-of-hypercard.html

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Re: uploading new app to mac app store

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

This is why I stopped doing iOS apps, it's a moving target. I'm going to 
have to do one next year and I'm dreading it. Hopefully the team can make 
it easier for us by then. Getting an app ready for the App Store takes 
almost as much effort as writing it.


It shouldn't be this hard.
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On December 2, 2018 10:18:30 PM Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
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Hi Kee,

Sorry to hear that wasn’t the problem for you.
I hope you get it straightened out!

Rick

On Dec 2, 2018, at 6:08 PM, kee nethery via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Went into KeyChain, opened both Installer and Application Certs and clicked 
on Trust to see that indeed, both are already set to “Use System Defaults”. 
Bummer. Much appreciate the suggestion. Wish that was the issue for me.


Kee




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Re: uploading new app to mac app store

[Rick Harrison via use-livecode]

Hi Kee,

Sorry to hear that wasn’t the problem for you.
I hope you get it straightened out!

Rick

> On Dec 2, 2018, at 6:08 PM, kee nethery via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Went into KeyChain, opened both Installer and Application Certs and clicked 
> on Trust to see that indeed, both are already set to “Use System Defaults”. 
> Bummer. Much appreciate the suggestion. Wish that was the issue for me.
> 
> Kee
> 


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Re: LC-apps for HC

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Ingar Roggen:

> ...why not elaborate it to the tool, the app needed to make HC easily
> portable to LC and thereby accessible "to the rest of us" again?
> Anybody takes the challenge?

One could make HC's interface in LC. Anyone game?

I once thought about doing it myself...
http://livecodejournal.com/features/the-true-power-of-hypercard.html

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Re: LC-apps for HC

[Ingar Roggen via use-livecode]

http://lowendmac.com/2014/apples-revolutionary-hypercard/

<<<•>>>

In 2002, the International HyperCard Users Group estimated there were 10,000 
active HyperCard users worldwide.

<<<•>>>



Hello, Devin!

As confirmed above the International HyperCard Users Group estimated there were 
10,000 active HyperCard users worldwide in 2002. Is LC anywhere near that 
number? Maybe. And if maybe not, why not? A truly successful LC should have 
been able to attract the 10,000 HC users worldwide and additionally the group 
of dedicated LC users. Maybe 10,000 of those too? Then we are 20,000? And if 
not, why not? What magic was lost along the road? HC was the winner. Where is 
it now? My one is in my Mac, always at hand. 10,000-1=9,999. Im still here, 
asking for an easier access to LC.  If the authoritative guide for converting 
HyperCard stacks to LiveCode still is Jacque’s tutorial at 
https://www.hyperactivesw.com/mctutorial/rrtutorialtoc.html, why not elaborate 
it to the tool, the app needed to make HC easily portable to LC and thereby 
accessible "to the rest of us" again? Anybody takes the challenge?

Ingar


30. nov. 2018 kl. 20.10 wrote Devin Asay via use-livecode:


The authoritative guide for converting HyperCard stacks to LiveCode is still 
Jacque’s tutorial at https://www.hyperactivesw.com/mctutorial/rrtutorialtoc.html


Devin

Sendt fra min iPhone

2. des. 2018 kl. 23:27 skrev Ingar Roggen 
mailto:ingar.rog...@sosiologi.uio.no>>:


2. des. 2018 kl. 04.38 skrev J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:

As far as I know, LC includes all the scripted paint commands that HC had, and 
adds native color besides. The stacks I've imported that used painting commands 
worked with few changes, mostly only needing to slow them down due to LC's 
faster engine and more modern CPUs.

The OP wants to emulate MacPaint, so image size limitations probably won't be 
an issue.

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On December 1, 2018 7:53:03 PM hh via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:

Richard G. wrote:
... Is there anything in MacPaint that can't be done with LC's bitmap objects?

"That can't be done" wins always, because the only limit for LC is the sky
(more exactly, sadly, the sky below the 65535-limit for all coordinates).

But there's a lot of features that are not done with LC's bitmap objects.
Even in a comparison with the paint features of HC some are missing (which
of course can be done, because the limit ...).
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Re: uploading new app to mac app store

[kee nethery via use-livecode]

Went into KeyChain, opened both Installer and Application Certs and clicked on 
Trust to see that indeed, both are already set to “Use System Defaults”. 
Bummer. Much appreciate the suggestion. Wish that was the issue for me.

Kee

> On Dec 2, 2018, at 7:57 AM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kee,
> 
> I ran into a few more errors too.
> 
> I looked into appWrapper3 and found it had a 7 day
> free trial.   I used your code signing method and
> appWrapper3 to do the final packaging. 
> When I tried it out it was telling me I had
> some errors.  I fixed those, and then tried to
> upload my app with Application Loader.
> It still didn’t make it!  It was still complaining.
> 
> I did some more research on the internet and
> found that some people found that setting the
> certificates from "trust all" to "system default” 
> made the problem go away.
> 
> Once I did that, Application Loader finally
> successfully uploaded my app to the
> Apple App Store.  Whew!
> 
> The status of it is now in review.  I will keep
> my fingers crossed that they approve it and
> that nothing is wrong with it.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Rick
> 
>> On Dec 1, 2018, at 10:55 PM, kee nethery via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m uploading a new app to the Mac App Store and at the same time, revising 
>> my LiveCode Lesson on the same.
>> 
>> Stuff has changed OR I’m just really missing something obvious.
>> 
>> I’ve got the app built, signed, all that good stuff. I’ve added it into 
>> developer.apple.com with it’s bundle ID of com.elloco.ellocotools and now 
>> I’m attempting to upload using the Application Loader accessed within Xcode. 
>> The error I’m getting is:
>> 
>> Application Loader is unable to upload your package.
>> No suitable application records were found. Verify your bundle identifier 
>> ‘com.elloco.ellocotools’ is correct.
>> 
>> Has anyone uploaded a new macOS app with Xcode 10 (or would be willing to 
>> look over what I’ve done) who could help me figure out what I’ve done 
>> incorrectly? Happy to do a screen share and show you what steps I’ve taken.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Kee Nethery
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Re: LC-apps for HC

[Ingar Roggen via use-livecode]

> 2. des. 2018 kl. 04.38 skrev J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> As far as I know, LC includes all the scripted paint commands that HC had, 
> and adds native color besides. The stacks I've imported that used painting 
> commands worked with few changes, mostly only needing to slow them down due 
> to LC's faster engine and more modern CPUs.
> 
> The OP wants to emulate MacPaint, so image size limitations probably won't be 
> an issue.
> 
> --
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
> On December 1, 2018 7:53:03 PM hh via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>>> Richard G. wrote:
>>> ... Is there anything in MacPaint that can't be done with LC's bitmap 
>>> objects?
>> 
>> "That can't be done" wins always, because the only limit for LC is the sky
>> (more exactly, sadly, the sky below the 65535-limit for all coordinates).
>> 
>> But there's a lot of features that are not done with LC's bitmap objects.
>> Even in a comparison with the paint features of HC some are missing (which
>> of course can be done, because the limit ...).
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Re: LC-apps for HC

[Ingar Roggen via use-livecode]

http://lowendmac.com/2014/apples-revolutionary-hypercard/
<<<•>>>
In 2002, the International HyperCard Users Group estimated there were 10,000 
active HyperCard users worldwide.
<<<•>>>

Hello, Devin!
As confirmed above the International HyperCard Users Group estimated there were 
10,000 active HyperCard users worldwide in 2002. Is LC anywhere near that 
number? Maybe. And if maybe not, why not? A truly successful LC should have 
been able to attract the 10,000 HC users worldwide and additionally the group 
of dedicated LC users. Maybe 10,000 of those too? Then we are 20,000? And if 
not, why not? What magic was lost along the road? HC was the winner. Where is 
it now? My one is in my Mac, always at hand. 10,000-1=9,999. Im still here, 
asking for an easier access to LC.  If the authoritative guide for converting 
HyperCard stacks to LiveCode still is Jacque’s tutorial at 
https://www.hyperactivesw.com/mctutorial/rrtutorialtoc.html, why not elaborate 
it to the tool, the app needed to make HC accessible "to the rest of us" again? 
Anybody takes the challenge?
Ingar
30. nov. 2018 kl. 23.02 skrev Ingar Roggen 
mailto:ingar.rog...@sosiologi.uio.no>>:

But before that I would like to know if MacPaint works in LC. Anybody know that?

Sendt fra min iPhone

30. nov. 2018 kl. 22:50 skrev Ingar Roggen via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:

I’ll look into it again, Devin.

30. nov. 2018 kl. 20.10 skrev Devin Asay via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:

The authoritative guide for converting HyperCard stacks to LiveCode is still 
Jacque’s tutorial at https://www.hyperactivesw.com/mctutorial/rrtutorialtoc.html

Devin

On Nov 30, 2018, at 10:02 AM, Ingar Roggen via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>
 wrote:

Hello, André,
I hope you still remember that we met in Las Vegas. I still use HyperCard and 
wonder if it has become easier to port HC-stacks to LiveCode? Do you know if 
there are any apps for that? And if not, would it be difficult to write them?
Regards
Ingar

Sendt fra min iPhone

30. nov. 2018 kl. 14:41 skrev Andre Alves Garzia via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:

Kaveh,

I would work which lines should be shown and hidden inside a variable and then 
replace the whole field...

On 30/11/2018 13:07, Kaveh Bazargan wrote:
Yes Andre, that is the line that fixed it, in a split second :-)

But here is a follow-up: Now I want to hide all lines that have no text style 
and only show lines with colored text. I use:

repeat with i = 1 to the number of lines of fld 1
  if the textcolor of line i of fld "text" is not empty then
 set the hidden of line i of fld "text" to false
  end if
end repeat

This is taking time too. Any suggestions how to speed this up?

On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 12:12, Andre Alves Garzia via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
 > wrote:

There is another tip here in this thread about

set the hidden of line 1 to -1 of field "the field" to false

As a single command, it might be better.

On 30/11/2018 12:07, Kaveh Bazargan via use-livecode wrote:
Thank you guys. I am always embarrassed to ask here as I know
the answer is
a one liner!!

And Andre the screen was locked already. :-)

On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 11:56, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
> wrote:

Hi Andre,

Am 30.11.2018 um 12:48 schrieb Andre Alves Garzia via
use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
>:
tied locking the screen first?
tied AND locked?
Andre, you are hardcore! :-D

On 30/11/2018 10:33, Kaveh Bazargan via use-livecode wrote:
I have a text field with some 3500 lines of text. I want to
ensure all
lines are visible, as I have hidden some before. I use:

repeat with i = 1 the number of lines of fld 1
   set the hidden of line i of fld 1 to false
end repeat

This is taking over 1 minute to complete. I have tried
removing all
styling
from the text so e.g. backgroundcolor is empty, etc. Same result.

Any suggestions pls?
Best

Klaus

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Re: uploading new app to mac app store

[Rick Harrison via use-livecode]

Hi Kee,

I ran into a few more errors too.

I looked into appWrapper3 and found it had a 7 day
free trial.   I used your code signing method and
appWrapper3 to do the final packaging. 
When I tried it out it was telling me I had
some errors.  I fixed those, and then tried to
upload my app with Application Loader.
It still didn’t make it!  It was still complaining.

I did some more research on the internet and
found that some people found that setting the
certificates from "trust all" to "system default” 
made the problem go away.

Once I did that, Application Loader finally
successfully uploaded my app to the
Apple App Store.  Whew!

The status of it is now in review.  I will keep
my fingers crossed that they approve it and
that nothing is wrong with it.

Good luck!

Rick

> On Dec 1, 2018, at 10:55 PM, kee nethery via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’m uploading a new app to the Mac App Store and at the same time, revising 
> my LiveCode Lesson on the same.
> 
> Stuff has changed OR I’m just really missing something obvious.
> 
> I’ve got the app built, signed, all that good stuff. I’ve added it into 
> developer.apple.com with it’s bundle ID of com.elloco.ellocotools and now I’m 
> attempting to upload using the Application Loader accessed within Xcode. The 
> error I’m getting is:
> 
> Application Loader is unable to upload your package.
> No suitable application records were found. Verify your bundle identifier 
> ‘com.elloco.ellocotools’ is correct.
> 
> Has anyone uploaded a new macOS app with Xcode 10 (or would be willing to 
> look over what I’ve done) who could help me figure out what I’ve done 
> incorrectly? Happy to do a screen share and show you what steps I’ve taken.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Kee Nethery
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