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Re: Scrollbar scale value not showing in Windows

2020-04-21 Thread Devin Asay via use-livecode

Michael,

Sometimes resizing the scrollbar will reveal the scale values. Does that work? 
I’m not near my Windows machine, so can’t verify here. I know that on a Mac if 
the scrollbar bounds are too small the values disappear.

Devin


> On Apr 21, 2020, at 9:35 PM, Michael Lew via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a small app that I've written for my lockdown-affected class, and the 
> students with Windows can not see the value of 'scale' type scrollbar 
> controls that have their showValue property set to true, but the Macs can.  
> Is there a cross-platform trick that I don't know?
> 
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Scrollbar scale value not showing in Windows

2020-04-21 Thread Michael Lew via use-livecode

I have a small app that I've written for my lockdown-affected class, and the 
students with Windows can not see the value of 'scale' type scrollbar controls 
that have their showValue property set to true, but the Macs can.  Is there a 
cross-platform trick that I don't know?

Michael lockdown Lew
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RE: Issues with Mobile Native controls

2020-04-21 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode

I that something that is just not done in a particular widget or just that the 
LCB/LCS/engine architecture can't support it?

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
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-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
Brian Milby via use-livecode
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 6:40 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Brian Milby
Subject: RE: Issues with Mobile Native controls

I’m pretty sure the answer is no.  It does not work on the included widgets.

Thanks,
Brian
On Apr 21, 2020, 6:38 PM -0400, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
, wrote:
> Does "lock messages" help here? I don’t know if it works for widgets? If so 
> you could do this:
>
> Lock messages
> set the highlight of me to not the highlight of me unlock messages
>
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On 
> Behalf Of Graham Samuel via use-livecode
> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 3:24 PM
> To: How to use LiveCode
> Cc: Graham Samuel
> Subject: Re: Issues with Mobile Native controls
>
> Yes, it was the “native” one.
>
> I caused the error which I saw by creating an infinite loop. I did not 
> realise that the ‘hiliteChanged’ message is sent after the graphic 
> representation of the switch has been changed within the widget itself, so I 
> scripted:
> on hiliteChanged
>
> set the highlight of me to not the highlight of me
>
> end hiliteChanged
>
> By doing that I generated another hiliteChanged message, and so an infinitum. 
> It was slightly less obvious than it might have been because the test started 
> on a card with a button scripted"
>
> go cd “testCard”
>
> which was supposed to show the card with the switch on it. This doesn’t 
> happen in this case - the screen freezes before the ‘go’ is actioned, so it 
> looks like we never left the first card.
>
> It was Elanor at LiveCode who explained that to me. I am somewhat 
> embarrassed, but it may help someone else to know what I did wrong.
>
> Graham
>
> PS This widget has a property ‘highlight’ and a message ‘hiliteChanged’. I 
> think the spelling should be consistent.
>
> > On 21 Apr 2020, at 19:04, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> >  wrote:
> >
> > I think you're right, the "native" switch is the one you bought. I've had 
> > no issues with the one that comes with LC.
> >
> > --
> > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive 
> > Software
> > | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On April 21, 2020 4:19:45 AM Graham
> > Samuel via use-livecode  wrote:
> >
> > > I’ve got ‘Switch Button’ and a ‘Native Switch Button’ in the LC toolbox. 
> > > Not sure which one you are talking about.
> > >
> > > The second one came with the widget set I bought, I think. Anyway it has 
> > > caused me a lot of trouble with the iOS simulator, but that may be 
> > > because the environment I’m working in is rather out of date apart from 
> > > LC itself (I’m using 9.5.1). LC Support are looking at it for me, but I 
> > > already guess that they will say “it works here”, since they will be 
> > > running the latest version of XCode etc. which is not permitted with my 
> > > setup.
> > >
> > > Graham
> > >
> > > > On 21 Apr 2020, at 02:37, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The one I mean is actually a widget but we're probably talking about 
> > > > the same thing. I like it because you can set the theme and it displays 
> > > > correctly for either iOS or Android.
> > > >
> > > > I'd love to see more themed widgets like that, maybe a mobileButton 
> > > > widget for example.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive 
> > > > Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On April 20, 2020 
> > > > 6:24:48 PM Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Are you referring to the switch button?
> > > > > If so, yes it is in Indy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rick
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Apr 20, 2020, at 5:48 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've used LC's built-in switch widget without any problems. I don't 
> > > > > > know if that's included in Indy though.
> > > > >
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RE: Issues with Mobile Native controls

2020-04-21 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode

I’m pretty sure the answer is no.  It does not work on the included widgets.

Thanks,
Brian
On Apr 21, 2020, 6:38 PM -0400, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
, wrote:
> Does "lock messages" help here? I don’t know if it works for widgets? If so 
> you could do this:
>
> Lock messages
> set the highlight of me to not the highlight of me
> unlock messages
>
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf 
> Of Graham Samuel via use-livecode
> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 3:24 PM
> To: How to use LiveCode
> Cc: Graham Samuel
> Subject: Re: Issues with Mobile Native controls
>
> Yes, it was the “native” one.
>
> I caused the error which I saw by creating an infinite loop. I did not 
> realise that the ‘hiliteChanged’ message is sent after the graphic 
> representation of the switch has been changed within the widget itself, so I 
> scripted:
> on hiliteChanged
>
> set the highlight of me to not the highlight of me
>
> end hiliteChanged
>
> By doing that I generated another hiliteChanged message, and so an infinitum. 
> It was slightly less obvious than it might have been because the test started 
> on a card with a button scripted"
>
> go cd “testCard”
>
> which was supposed to show the card with the switch on it. This doesn’t 
> happen in this case - the screen freezes before the ‘go’ is actioned, so it 
> looks like we never left the first card.
>
> It was Elanor at LiveCode who explained that to me. I am somewhat 
> embarrassed, but it may help someone else to know what I did wrong.
>
> Graham
>
> PS This widget has a property ‘highlight’ and a message ‘hiliteChanged’. I 
> think the spelling should be consistent.
>
> > On 21 Apr 2020, at 19:04, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> >  wrote:
> >
> > I think you're right, the "native" switch is the one you bought. I've had 
> > no issues with the one that comes with LC.
> >
> > --
> > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software
> > | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On April 21, 2020 4:19:45 AM Graham
> > Samuel via use-livecode  wrote:
> >
> > > I’ve got ‘Switch Button’ and a ‘Native Switch Button’ in the LC toolbox. 
> > > Not sure which one you are talking about.
> > >
> > > The second one came with the widget set I bought, I think. Anyway it has 
> > > caused me a lot of trouble with the iOS simulator, but that may be 
> > > because the environment I’m working in is rather out of date apart from 
> > > LC itself (I’m using 9.5.1). LC Support are looking at it for me, but I 
> > > already guess that they will say “it works here”, since they will be 
> > > running the latest version of XCode etc. which is not permitted with my 
> > > setup.
> > >
> > > Graham
> > >
> > > > On 21 Apr 2020, at 02:37, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The one I mean is actually a widget but we're probably talking about 
> > > > the same thing. I like it because you can set the theme and it displays 
> > > > correctly for either iOS or Android.
> > > >
> > > > I'd love to see more themed widgets like that, maybe a mobileButton 
> > > > widget for example.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive
> > > > Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On April 20, 2020 6:24:48 PM
> > > > Rick Harrison via use-livecode  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Are you referring to the switch button?
> > > > > If so, yes it is in Indy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rick
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Apr 20, 2020, at 5:48 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've used LC's built-in switch widget without any problems. I don't 
> > > > > > know if that's included in Indy though.
> > > > >
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RE: Issues with Mobile Native controls

2020-04-21 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode

Does "lock messages" help here? I don’t know if it works for widgets? If so you 
could do this:

Lock messages
set the highlight of me to not the highlight of me
unlock messages

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
Graham Samuel via use-livecode
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 3:24 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Graham Samuel
Subject: Re: Issues with Mobile Native controls

Yes, it was the “native” one. 

I caused the error which I saw by creating an infinite loop. I did not realise 
that the ‘hiliteChanged’ message is sent after the graphic representation of 
the switch has been changed within the widget itself, so I scripted:
   on hiliteChanged

  set the highlight of me to not the highlight of me

   end hiliteChanged

By doing that I generated another hiliteChanged message, and so an infinitum. 
It was slightly less obvious than it might have been because the test started 
on a card with a button scripted"

  go cd “testCard”

which was supposed to show the card with the switch on it. This doesn’t happen 
in this case - the screen freezes before the ‘go’ is actioned, so it looks like 
we never left the first card.

It was Elanor at LiveCode who explained that to me. I am somewhat embarrassed, 
but it may help someone else to know what I did wrong.

Graham

PS This widget has a property ‘highlight’ and a message ‘hiliteChanged’. I 
think the spelling should be consistent.

> On 21 Apr 2020, at 19:04, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think you're right, the "native" switch is the one you bought. I've had no 
> issues with the one that comes with LC.
> 
> --
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software 
> | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On April 21, 2020 4:19:45 AM Graham 
> Samuel via use-livecode  wrote:
> 
>> I’ve got ‘Switch Button’ and a ‘Native Switch Button’ in the LC toolbox. Not 
>> sure which one you are talking about.
>> 
>> The second one came with the widget set I bought, I think. Anyway it has 
>> caused me a lot of trouble with the iOS simulator, but that may be because 
>> the environment I’m working in is rather out of date apart from LC itself 
>> (I’m using 9.5.1). LC Support are looking at it for me, but I already guess 
>> that they will say “it works here”, since they will be running the latest 
>> version of XCode etc. which is not permitted with my setup.
>> 
>> Graham
>> 
>>> On 21 Apr 2020, at 02:37, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The one I mean is actually a widget but we're probably talking about the 
>>> same thing. I like it because you can set the theme and it displays 
>>> correctly for either iOS or Android.
>>> 
>>> I'd love to see more themed widgets like that, maybe a mobileButton widget 
>>> for example.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive 
>>> Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On April 20, 2020 6:24:48 PM 
>>> Rick Harrison via use-livecode  wrote:
>>> 
 Are you referring to the switch button?
 If so, yes it is in Indy.
 
 Rick
 
> On Apr 20, 2020, at 5:48 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've used LC's built-in switch widget without any problems. I don't know 
> if that's included in Indy though.
 
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Re: Issues with Mobile Native controls

2020-04-21 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode

Yes, it was the “native” one. 

I caused the error which I saw by creating an infinite loop. I did not realise 
that the ‘hiliteChanged’ message is sent after the graphic representation of 
the switch has been changed within the widget itself, so I scripted:
   on hiliteChanged

  set the highlight of me to not the highlight of me

   end hiliteChanged

By doing that I generated another hiliteChanged message, and so an infinitum. 
It was slightly less obvious than it might have been because the test started 
on a card with a button scripted"

  go cd “testCard”

which was supposed to show the card with the switch on it. This doesn’t happen 
in this case - the screen freezes before the ‘go’ is actioned, so it looks like 
we never left the first card.

It was Elanor at LiveCode who explained that to me. I am somewhat embarrassed, 
but it may help someone else to know what I did wrong.

Graham

PS This widget has a property ‘highlight’ and a message ‘hiliteChanged’. I 
think the spelling should be consistent.

> On 21 Apr 2020, at 19:04, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think you're right, the "native" switch is the one you bought. I've had no 
> issues with the one that comes with LC.
> 
> --
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
> On April 21, 2020 4:19:45 AM Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> I’ve got ‘Switch Button’ and a ‘Native Switch Button’ in the LC toolbox. Not 
>> sure which one you are talking about.
>> 
>> The second one came with the widget set I bought, I think. Anyway it has 
>> caused me a lot of trouble with the iOS simulator, but that may be because 
>> the environment I’m working in is rather out of date apart from LC itself 
>> (I’m using 9.5.1). LC Support are looking at it for me, but I already guess 
>> that they will say “it works here”, since they will be running the latest 
>> version of XCode etc. which is not permitted with my setup.
>> 
>> Graham
>> 
>>> On 21 Apr 2020, at 02:37, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The one I mean is actually a widget but we're probably talking about the 
>>> same thing. I like it because you can set the theme and it displays 
>>> correctly for either iOS or Android.
>>> 
>>> I'd love to see more themed widgets like that, maybe a mobileButton widget 
>>> for example.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
>>> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>>> On April 20, 2020 6:24:48 PM Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Are you referring to the switch button?
 If so, yes it is in Indy.
 
 Rick
 
> On Apr 20, 2020, at 5:48 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've used LC's built-in switch widget without any problems. I don't know 
> if that's included in Indy though.
 
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Re: What's a Capability in an Apple Provisioning Profile?

2020-04-21 Thread Mark Talluto via use-livecode

On Apr 21, 2020, at 6:11 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
 wrote:
> 
> I’m trying to get my iOS app, now ready for beta test, transferred to an 
> actual phone, after what I think are all the earlier steps both in the Apple 
> certification system (Franz Kafka would be proud!) and in LC and in the 
> simulator. I have also tried to follow advice generously given on this list, 
> especially from Bill Prothero.
> 
> However, XCode refuses to put my app on the phone, and among other things 
> seems to suggest that my Profile doesn’t have the right Capabilities. But 
> when I return to the Apple Developer profile and look at the Profile I 
> generated, sure enough it says ‘Enabled Capabilities: none’, but the editing 
> function for the Profile doesn’t give an option to add any.
> 
> Does anyone know what a Capability is in this context, whether I need one, 
> and if so, what to do to get one (or more)? If i don’t need one, why is Xcode 
> complaining?
> 
> It is so hard to keep going in these circumstances.

Here is something that helped me when I was setting up my system for iOS 
development.

You can build up various profiles in your OS that may be expired or created 
with an incomplete device list. This can happen when you add devices. You then 
have to edit your profile and update the devices available. When you download 
that profile and double-click it, a copy is added to your OS. I had originally 
thought it was smart updating my profile with the same name. Not so.

Check this path on your OS:  /Users/Graham/Library/MobileDevice/Provisioning 
Profiles

You might consider deleting all of them. Then download your current profile and 
double click on it. You will see a new file in the path above. You do not need 
to restart LC to see the updated profile. I switch tabs in the Standalone 
Builder to Windows or Mac, then back to iOS. The profile dropdown will now show 
the updated state of that path above. Pick the profile again and continue on.

Best regards,

Mark Talluto
livecloud.io 
nursenotes.net 
canelasoftware.com 

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Re: What's a Capability in an Apple Provisioning Profile?

2020-04-21 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode

Bill, I do really appreciate your help and Ralph’s. I admit I know nothing 
about this Apple-designed maze and somehow the whole process is so different 
from software development that it is almost impossible to learn a rational 
route through it all, so I applaud your idea that someone could provide that, 
with lots of ways of backing out of gotchas, as it were. 

In my particular case, I have definitely got an iOS Development Profile, and 
indeed no other. I have a thing called an iOS WildCard app ID as well. I have 
tried to follow your advice and clear out all my expired stuff from when I 
created desktop apps etc. But I am still stuck.

I have finally asked LC support about it, and perhaps they will have the time 
to help. If they do find a way through, then I will report back here to say how 
the problem was solved. If I can’t get anywhere, then I think I shall have to 
abandon this development. As it was supposed to be a free app, i won’t lose any 
money, but my pride will definitely be hurt! I really don’t know how much 
benefit it would have provided to my target community, but looks like I’m never 
going to find out.

Thanks for all your help so far.

Graham

> On 21 Apr 2020, at 18:36, Prothero-earthlearningsol via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Graham,
> This is from memory. When you are in Apple’s developer portal, you choose the 
> application destination you are targeting, and when you set the capabilities, 
> they are appropriate for the destination hardware. It sounds like you chose 
> MacOS instead of Mobile, iOS. It’s really easy to skip over a detail when 
> making these provisioning decisions. Also, it’s very easy to get your latest 
> file confused with an older one, and that’s what I suspect you did. I I were 
> you, I’d clean out all the old Apple Developer generated stuff and start 
> over. That’s part of the rub. You generate files on the Developer portal, 
> they get downloaded, loaded into keychain and Xcode, stored in your library 
> and in folders generated by  livecode, and then it’s s easy to leave one 
> of those little buggers to confuse you.
> 
> It would be really nice if there was a diagram or step by step procedure that 
> takes you through, starting with cleaning out all files, that results in 
> success and shows where files are stored at each step (who would’ve thought 
> files got stored in the Library folder?). Of course, Apple’s regular updates 
> and security improvements make this more challenging. It needs to be pegged 
> at the grade-schooler level though, so we geezers can follow it. Sounds like 
> a plan for a creative app designer. But perhaps this already exists??
> 
> PS. I give Ralph DiMola a lot of credit and thanks for his insight and help. 
> Thanks, Ralph!
> 
> Best,
> Bill
> 
> William Prothero
> http://es.earthednet.org
> 
>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Ralph
>> 
>> The only even vaguely relevant one for me which is not greyed out (most are, 
>> as I said) is Maps. Since the app calls for GPS in the Standalone Settings, 
>> maybe that’s a requirement - no, hold it! The info button says it’s for 
>> MacOS only (really?). So still stuck. I am going to have to ask the mother 
>> ship, since
>> 
>>> The entitlements specified in your application’s Code Signing Entitlements 
>>> file are invalid, not permitted, or do not match those specified in your 
>>> provisioning profile. (0xE8008016).
>> 
>> Means nothing that I can understand.
>> 
>> Graham
>> 
>>> On 21 Apr 2020, at 16:14, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Graham,
>>> 
>>> Unless anything has changed since my last month's release(could be 
>>> possible) all I have selected is "Game Center"(can't be un-ticked), "In-App 
>>> Purchase"(also can't be un-ticked). All the others can be ticked and 
>>> optionally configured. Do you use any of the un-ticked options in your app?
>>> 
>>> Ralph DiMola
>>> IT Director
>>> Evergreen Information Services
>>> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Graham Samuel via use-livecode
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 9:36 AM
>>> To: How to use LiveCode
>>> Cc: Graham Samuel
>>> Subject: Re: What's a Capability in an Apple Provisioning Profile?
>>> 
>>> I kind of answered my own question: the Capabilities are not available via 
>>> the editing function of the Provisioning Profile, but are associated with 
>>> something called the App ID Configuration (why?). However, most of the 
>>> capabilities are greyed out for me (why?) and those that could be added 
>>> aren’t interesting for my particular app (iCloud for example). The mystery 
>>> remains. I’m beginning to wonder whether LC somehow expects one to have 
>>> added Capabilities for its own reasons. LC does do some mysterious things 
>>> such as code signing without the developers intervention, so maybe.
>>> 
>>> But I am

Re: Issues with Mobile Native controls

2020-04-21 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

I think you're right, the "native" switch is the one you bought. I've had 
no issues with the one that comes with LC.


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On April 21, 2020 4:19:45 AM Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
 wrote:


I’ve got ‘Switch Button’ and a ‘Native Switch Button’ in the LC toolbox. 
Not sure which one you are talking about.


The second one came with the widget set I bought, I think. Anyway it has 
caused me a lot of trouble with the iOS simulator, but that may be because 
the environment I’m working in is rather out of date apart from LC itself 
(I’m using 9.5.1). LC Support are looking at it for me, but I already guess 
that they will say “it works here”, since they will be running the latest 
version of XCode etc. which is not permitted with my setup.


Graham

On 21 Apr 2020, at 02:37, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
 wrote:


The one I mean is actually a widget but we're probably talking about the 
same thing. I like it because you can set the theme and it displays 
correctly for either iOS or Android.


I'd love to see more themed widgets like that, maybe a mobileButton widget 
for example.


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On April 20, 2020 6:24:48 PM Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
 wrote:



Are you referring to the switch button?
If so, yes it is in Indy.

Rick

On Apr 20, 2020, at 5:48 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
 wrote:


I've used LC's built-in switch widget without any problems. I don't know if 
that's included in Indy though.


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Re: What's a Capability in an Apple Provisioning Profile?

2020-04-21 Thread Prothero-earthlearningsol via use-livecode

Graham,
This is from memory. When you are in Apple’s developer portal, you choose the 
application destination you are targeting, and when you set the capabilities, 
they are appropriate for the destination hardware. It sounds like you chose 
MacOS instead of Mobile, iOS. It’s really easy to skip over a detail when 
making these provisioning decisions. Also, it’s very easy to get your latest 
file confused with an older one, and that’s what I suspect you did. I I were 
you, I’d clean out all the old Apple Developer generated stuff and start over. 
That’s part of the rub. You generate files on the Developer portal, they get 
downloaded, loaded into keychain and Xcode, stored in your library and in 
folders generated by  livecode, and then it’s s easy to leave one of those 
little buggers to confuse you.

It would be really nice if there was a diagram or step by step procedure that 
takes you through, starting with cleaning out all files, that results in 
success and shows where files are stored at each step (who would’ve thought 
files got stored in the Library folder?). Of course, Apple’s regular updates 
and security improvements make this more challenging. It needs to be pegged at 
the grade-schooler level though, so we geezers can follow it. Sounds like a 
plan for a creative app designer. But perhaps this already exists??

PS. I give Ralph DiMola a lot of credit and thanks for his insight and help. 
Thanks, Ralph!

Best,
Bill

William Prothero
http://es.earthednet.org

> On Apr 21, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Ralph
> 
> The only even vaguely relevant one for me which is not greyed out (most are, 
> as I said) is Maps. Since the app calls for GPS in the Standalone Settings, 
> maybe that’s a requirement - no, hold it! The info button says it’s for MacOS 
> only (really?). So still stuck. I am going to have to ask the mother ship, 
> since
> 
>> The entitlements specified in your application’s Code Signing Entitlements 
>> file are invalid, not permitted, or do not match those specified in your 
>> provisioning profile. (0xE8008016).
> 
> Means nothing that I can understand.
> 
> Graham
> 
>> On 21 Apr 2020, at 16:14, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Graham,
>> 
>> Unless anything has changed since my last month's release(could be possible) 
>> all I have selected is "Game Center"(can't be un-ticked), "In-App 
>> Purchase"(also can't be un-ticked). All the others can be ticked and 
>> optionally configured. Do you use any of the un-ticked options in your app?
>> 
>> Ralph DiMola
>> IT Director
>> Evergreen Information Services
>> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Graham Samuel via use-livecode
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 9:36 AM
>> To: How to use LiveCode
>> Cc: Graham Samuel
>> Subject: Re: What's a Capability in an Apple Provisioning Profile?
>> 
>> I kind of answered my own question: the Capabilities are not available via 
>> the editing function of the Provisioning Profile, but are associated with 
>> something called the App ID Configuration (why?). However, most of the 
>> capabilities are greyed out for me (why?) and those that could be added 
>> aren’t interesting for my particular app (iCloud for example). The mystery 
>> remains. I’m beginning to wonder whether LC somehow expects one to have 
>> added Capabilities for its own reasons. LC does do some mysterious things 
>> such as code signing without the developers intervention, so maybe.
>> 
>> But I am still stuck and would still like someone who actually understands 
>> Capabilities to explain them.
>> 
>> Graham
>> 
 On 21 Apr 2020, at 15:11, Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m trying to get my iOS app, now ready for beta test, transferred to an 
>>> actual phone, after what I think are all the earlier steps both in the 
>>> Apple certification system (Franz Kafka would be proud!) and in LC and in 
>>> the simulator. I have also tried to follow advice generously given on this 
>>> list, especially from Bill Prothero.
>>> 
>>> However, XCode refuses to put my app on the phone, and among other things 
>>> seems to suggest that my Profile doesn’t have the right Capabilities. But 
>>> when I return to the Apple Developer profile and look at the Profile I 
>>> generated, sure enough it says ‘Enabled Capabilities: none’, but the 
>>> editing function for the Profile doesn’t give an option to add any.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know what a Capability is in this context, whether I need one, 
>>> and if so, what to do to get one (or more)? If i don’t need one, why is 
>>> Xcode complaining?
>>> 
>>> It is so hard to keep going in these circumstances.
>>> 
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Re: What's a Capability in an Apple Provisioning Profile?

2020-04-21 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode

Thanks Ralph

The only even vaguely relevant one for me which is not greyed out (most are, as 
I said) is Maps. Since the app calls for GPS in the Standalone Settings, maybe 
that’s a requirement - no, hold it! The info button says it’s for MacOS only 
(really?). So still stuck. I am going to have to ask the mother ship, since

> The entitlements specified in your application’s Code Signing Entitlements 
> file are invalid, not permitted, or do not match those specified in your 
> provisioning profile. (0xE8008016).

Means nothing that I can understand.

Graham

> On 21 Apr 2020, at 16:14, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Graham,
> 
> Unless anything has changed since my last month's release(could be possible) 
> all I have selected is "Game Center"(can't be un-ticked), "In-App 
> Purchase"(also can't be un-ticked). All the others can be ticked and 
> optionally configured. Do you use any of the un-ticked options in your app?
> 
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf 
> Of Graham Samuel via use-livecode
> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 9:36 AM
> To: How to use LiveCode
> Cc: Graham Samuel
> Subject: Re: What's a Capability in an Apple Provisioning Profile?
> 
> I kind of answered my own question: the Capabilities are not available via 
> the editing function of the Provisioning Profile, but are associated with 
> something called the App ID Configuration (why?). However, most of the 
> capabilities are greyed out for me (why?) and those that could be added 
> aren’t interesting for my particular app (iCloud for example). The mystery 
> remains. I’m beginning to wonder whether LC somehow expects one to have added 
> Capabilities for its own reasons. LC does do some mysterious things such as 
> code signing without the developers intervention, so maybe.
> 
> But I am still stuck and would still like someone who actually understands 
> Capabilities to explain them.
> 
> Graham
> 
>> On 21 Apr 2020, at 15:11, Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m trying to get my iOS app, now ready for beta test, transferred to an 
>> actual phone, after what I think are all the earlier steps both in the Apple 
>> certification system (Franz Kafka would be proud!) and in LC and in the 
>> simulator. I have also tried to follow advice generously given on this list, 
>> especially from Bill Prothero.
>> 
>> However, XCode refuses to put my app on the phone, and among other things 
>> seems to suggest that my Profile doesn’t have the right Capabilities. But 
>> when I return to the Apple Developer profile and look at the Profile I 
>> generated, sure enough it says ‘Enabled Capabilities: none’, but the editing 
>> function for the Profile doesn’t give an option to add any.
>> 
>> Does anyone know what a Capability is in this context, whether I need one, 
>> and if so, what to do to get one (or more)? If i don’t need one, why is 
>> Xcode complaining?
>> 
>> It is so hard to keep going in these circumstances.
>> 
>> Graham
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Re: Apps to fight COVID-19

2020-04-21 Thread dsc--- via use-livecode

Is something still happening tomorrow?

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 1:46 PM, dsc--- via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I will attend.
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 7:45 AM, David Bovill via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The app looks a good start, but basic. I took a closer look at the cartoon 
>> images, they are quite specific, but a good base for a discussion about 
>> privacy issues. Not so good for an app.
>> 
>> My suggestion regarding taking this forwards is that we have a creative 
>> workshop on Earth Day this coming Weds, as part of an in-line in conference 
>> that we are organising with a few folk. There will be plenty of other thing 
>> to drop into. I’ll send some info to this list on Sunday.
>> 
>> It’s pretty informal, so we can organise our own breakout open space meeting 
>> when we like - so it should be no issue organising a Livecode workshop on 
>> making a CORVID-19 app.
>> 
>> My focus is on doing an interactive sound piece and helping convene some if 
>> the breakout discussions, but doing a workshop on Livecode would be a fun 
>> part of that.
>> 
>> I could do with some help though :)
>> On 17 Apr 2020, 17:09 +0100, dsc--- via use-livecode 
>> , wrote:
>>> Here is a cool app from Kreativzirkel Design Studio. It is a contact diary 
>>> as mentioned here.
>>> 
>>> https://www.coronika.app/en 
>>> 
>>> I say "cool", but I haven't tried it. it looks good. Should it be done 
>>> better?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Apr 15, 2020, at 4:57 PM, dsc--- via use-livecode 
  wrote:
 
 Meanwhile at Covid Watch there is talk of moving the provider-facing at to 
 a web app of some sort.
 
> On Apr 14, 2020, at 1:37 PM, dsc--- via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Jonathan Rothberg is looking for brilliant people who can code whatever 
> your domain.
> 
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2020, at 6:52 PM, Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 4/13/20 10:14 AM, dsc--- via use-livecode wrote:
 1. Covid Watch needs expertise in making HIPAA compliant apps. (We 
 have changed COVID Watch to Covid Watch.)
>>> 
>>> This any help?
>>> 
>>> https://www.healthcareblocks.com/hipaa/developer_guidelines
>>> 
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RE: What's a Capability in an Apple Provisioning Profile?

2020-04-21 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode

Graham,

Unless anything has changed since my last month's release(could be possible) 
all I have selected is "Game Center"(can't be un-ticked), "In-App 
Purchase"(also can't be un-ticked). All the others can be ticked and optionally 
configured. Do you use any of the un-ticked options in your app?

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
Graham Samuel via use-livecode
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 9:36 AM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Graham Samuel
Subject: Re: What's a Capability in an Apple Provisioning Profile?

I kind of answered my own question: the Capabilities are not available via the 
editing function of the Provisioning Profile, but are associated with something 
called the App ID Configuration (why?). However, most of the capabilities are 
greyed out for me (why?) and those that could be added aren’t interesting for 
my particular app (iCloud for example). The mystery remains. I’m beginning to 
wonder whether LC somehow expects one to have added Capabilities for its own 
reasons. LC does do some mysterious things such as code signing without the 
developers intervention, so maybe.

But I am still stuck and would still like someone who actually understands 
Capabilities to explain them.

Graham

> On 21 Apr 2020, at 15:11, Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’m trying to get my iOS app, now ready for beta test, transferred to an 
> actual phone, after what I think are all the earlier steps both in the Apple 
> certification system (Franz Kafka would be proud!) and in LC and in the 
> simulator. I have also tried to follow advice generously given on this list, 
> especially from Bill Prothero.
> 
> However, XCode refuses to put my app on the phone, and among other things 
> seems to suggest that my Profile doesn’t have the right Capabilities. But 
> when I return to the Apple Developer profile and look at the Profile I 
> generated, sure enough it says ‘Enabled Capabilities: none’, but the editing 
> function for the Profile doesn’t give an option to add any.
> 
> Does anyone know what a Capability is in this context, whether I need one, 
> and if so, what to do to get one (or more)? If i don’t need one, why is Xcode 
> complaining?
> 
> It is so hard to keep going in these circumstances.
> 
> Graham
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Re: What's a Capability in an Apple Provisioning Profile?

2020-04-21 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode

I kind of answered my own question: the Capabilities are not available via the 
editing function of the Provisioning Profile, but are associated with something 
called the App ID Configuration (why?). However, most of the capabilities are 
greyed out for me (why?) and those that could be added aren’t interesting for 
my particular app (iCloud for example). The mystery remains. I’m beginning to 
wonder whether LC somehow expects one to have added Capabilities for its own 
reasons. LC does do some mysterious things such as code signing without the 
developers intervention, so maybe.

But I am still stuck and would still like someone who actually understands 
Capabilities to explain them.

Graham

> On 21 Apr 2020, at 15:11, Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’m trying to get my iOS app, now ready for beta test, transferred to an 
> actual phone, after what I think are all the earlier steps both in the Apple 
> certification system (Franz Kafka would be proud!) and in LC and in the 
> simulator. I have also tried to follow advice generously given on this list, 
> especially from Bill Prothero.
> 
> However, XCode refuses to put my app on the phone, and among other things 
> seems to suggest that my Profile doesn’t have the right Capabilities. But 
> when I return to the Apple Developer profile and look at the Profile I 
> generated, sure enough it says ‘Enabled Capabilities: none’, but the editing 
> function for the Profile doesn’t give an option to add any.
> 
> Does anyone know what a Capability is in this context, whether I need one, 
> and if so, what to do to get one (or more)? If i don’t need one, why is Xcode 
> complaining?
> 
> It is so hard to keep going in these circumstances.
> 
> Graham
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What's a Capability in an Apple Provisioning Profile?

2020-04-21 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode

I’m trying to get my iOS app, now ready for beta test, transferred to an actual 
phone, after what I think are all the earlier steps both in the Apple 
certification system (Franz Kafka would be proud!) and in LC and in the 
simulator. I have also tried to follow advice generously given on this list, 
especially from Bill Prothero.

However, XCode refuses to put my app on the phone, and among other things seems 
to suggest that my Profile doesn’t have the right Capabilities. But when I 
return to the Apple Developer profile and look at the Profile I generated, sure 
enough it says ‘Enabled Capabilities: none’, but the editing function for the 
Profile doesn’t give an option to add any.

Does anyone know what a Capability is in this context, whether I need one, and 
if so, what to do to get one (or more)? If i don’t need one, why is Xcode 
complaining?

It is so hard to keep going in these circumstances.

Graham
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Re: Issues with Mobile Native controls

2020-04-21 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode

I’ve got ‘Switch Button’ and a ‘Native Switch Button’ in the LC toolbox. Not 
sure which one you are talking about.

The second one came with the widget set I bought, I think. Anyway it has caused 
me a lot of trouble with the iOS simulator, but that may be because the 
environment I’m working in is rather out of date apart from LC itself (I’m 
using 9.5.1). LC Support are looking at it for me, but I already guess that 
they will say “it works here”, since they will be running the latest version of 
XCode etc. which is not permitted with my setup.

Graham

> On 21 Apr 2020, at 02:37, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> The one I mean is actually a widget but we're probably talking about the same 
> thing. I like it because you can set the theme and it displays correctly for 
> either iOS or Android.
> 
> I'd love to see more themed widgets like that, maybe a mobileButton widget 
> for example.
> 
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> On April 20, 2020 6:24:48 PM Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Are you referring to the switch button?
>> If so, yes it is in Indy.
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>>> On Apr 20, 2020, at 5:48 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've used LC's built-in switch widget without any problems. I don't know if 
>>> that's included in Indy though.
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