LC PayPal Server Integration

[Rick Harrison via use-livecode]

Hi, I have noticed that PayPal has changed things rather dramatically since the
last time I used them for accepting payments for my website.

It used to be long ago that you could send your amount, and sales tax
information to PayPal with one button.  Now the easiest way I can
figure how to do this kind of thing involves my having to make
several PayPal buttons in advance, and then use my sales tax
table to determine which button to show to the user to get
PayPal to charge the correct amounts.

How are you integrating LiveCode Server with PayPal these days?
Do you have any good examples?  I find the PayPal website
to be a bit of a morass with all of their different ways of doing things.

Thanks in advance!

Rick



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Re: Getting a real number from scientific notation

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

It’s more than that. There is so much to RegEx, and the different iterations of 
it, that no dictionary could really cover it. If you want to familiarize 
yourself with Regex, you really need to visit a tutorial site. Heck, even when 
you google how to do something, you will likely get a discussion going as to 
why the first solution posted won’t work right for situation x or y, then 
someone will contradict that person and before you know it 5 or 6 of the people 
who actually KNOW Regex will jump into the fray. You may or may not get a 
really good answer. 

Bob S


> On Nov 23, 2020, at 4:43 PM, Roger Guay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately, there are not enough examples in the dictionary for an amateur 
> like myself to understand it!
> 
> Roger
> 
>> On Nov 23, 2020, at 4:09 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> All this is why I prefer format() over numberFormat. The function is more 
>> versatile and you get exactly what you specify with less guess work.
>> 
>> On 11/23/2020 6:52 PM, Roger Guay via use-livecode wrote:
>>> Yaknow, this whole thing is confusing. Turns out you don’t even need to set 
>>> the numberFormat.
>>> put 4.21911e+11 + 0 results in 42191000.
>>> 
>>> Roger
>>> 
 On Nov 23, 2020, at 2:44 PM, Craig newman via use-livecode 
  wrote:
 
 Nope.
 
 The "numberFormat" property is perfectly happy with quotes around its 
 formatExpression. It is also perfectly happy without it. But I always use 
 quotes for things like this.
 
 Craig
 
 -Original Message-
 From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On 
 Behalf Of Roger Guay via use-livecode
 Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 5:25 PM
 To: How to use LiveCode 
 Cc: Roger Guay 
 Subject: Re: Getting a real number from scientific notation
 
 That works. Thanks, Klaus!
 
 Roger
 
 
 
> On Nov 23, 2020, at 1:55 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Roger,
> 
> you forgot + 0 :-)
> 
> on MouseUp
> set the numberformat to 0 # NO quotes around this 0 or LC gives an
> error  put 4.21911e+11 + 0 End mouseUp
> 
> -> 42191100
> 
>> Am 23.11.2020 um 22:50 schrieb Roger Guay via use-livecode 
>> :
>>  on MouseUp
>>  set the numberformat to  “0"
>>  put 4.21911e+11
>>  End mouseUp
>> puts 4.21911e+11 into msg box
>> What am I missing?
>> 
>> Roger
> Best
> 
> Klaus
> 
> --
> Klaus Major
> https://www.major-k.de
> kl...@major-k.de
> 
> 
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Re: Google and OpenSource apps

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 11/23/20 10:50 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:

The "free" described in the GPL and other open source licenses isn't 
about money ("gratis") but freedom ("libre"). This ambiguity with "free" 
is among the many limitations of our language, but few speak Latin so 
the license was written in English, with descriptions of how "free" 
applies. :)


Nadia Eghbal gave and interesting LongNow talk last week on opensource 
software maintenance, explaining along the way Jacob Thornton's 
distinction between


free as in beer
free as in speech
free as in puppy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX0pPg-gyX8

and if you've got a free hour, the whole talk is worth the listen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnI1nz2CBnI

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Re: Getting a real number from scientific notation

[Roger Guay via use-livecode]

Unfortunately, there are not enough examples in the dictionary for an amateur 
like myself to understand it!

Roger

> On Nov 23, 2020, at 4:09 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> All this is why I prefer format() over numberFormat. The function is more 
> versatile and you get exactly what you specify with less guess work.
> 
> On 11/23/2020 6:52 PM, Roger Guay via use-livecode wrote:
>> Yaknow, this whole thing is confusing. Turns out you don’t even need to set 
>> the numberFormat.
>> put 4.21911e+11 + 0 results in 42191000.
>> 
>> Roger
>> 
>>> On Nov 23, 2020, at 2:44 PM, Craig newman via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Nope.
>>> 
>>> The "numberFormat" property is perfectly happy with quotes around its 
>>> formatExpression. It is also perfectly happy without it. But I always use 
>>> quotes for things like this.
>>> 
>>> Craig
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Roger Guay via use-livecode
>>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 5:25 PM
>>> To: How to use LiveCode 
>>> Cc: Roger Guay 
>>> Subject: Re: Getting a real number from scientific notation
>>> 
>>> That works. Thanks, Klaus!
>>> 
>>> Roger
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 23, 2020, at 1:55 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
  wrote:
 
 Hi Roger,
 
 you forgot + 0 :-)
 
 on MouseUp
 set the numberformat to 0 # NO quotes around this 0 or LC gives an
 error  put 4.21911e+11 + 0 End mouseUp
 
 -> 42191100
 
> Am 23.11.2020 um 22:50 schrieb Roger Guay via use-livecode 
> :
>   on MouseUp
>   set the numberformat to  “0"
>   put 4.21911e+11
>   End mouseUp
> puts 4.21911e+11 into msg box
> What am I missing?
> 
> Roger
 Best
 
 Klaus
 
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 kl...@major-k.de
 
 
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Re: Google and OpenSource apps

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 11/23/20 11:59 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:
The issue with deploying apps governed specifically by the Gnu Public License (GPL, which is 
used for LC Community distribution) has to do with Apple's limitation on the number of 
downloads per account.


That restriction is viewed as rendering Apple's ToS logically incompatible with the freedoms 
guaranteed in the GPL, which expressly require no limitations on usage. 



The restriction is only for the number of beta testers though. Is that enough to qualify for 
the restriction?


The issue was with customer accounts, not dev accounts, which IIRC are 
restricted to a 10-device limit.


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Re: Getting a real number from scientific notation

[Paul Dupuis via use-livecode]

All this is why I prefer format() over numberFormat. The function is 
more versatile and you get exactly what you specify with less guess work.


On 11/23/2020 6:52 PM, Roger Guay via use-livecode wrote:

Yaknow, this whole thing is confusing. Turns out you don’t even need to set the 
numberFormat.
put 4.21911e+11 + 0 results in 42191000.

Roger


On Nov 23, 2020, at 2:44 PM, Craig newman via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Nope.

The "numberFormat" property is perfectly happy with quotes around its 
formatExpression. It is also perfectly happy without it. But I always use quotes for 
things like this.

Craig

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
Roger Guay via use-livecode
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 5:25 PM
To: How to use LiveCode 
Cc: Roger Guay 
Subject: Re: Getting a real number from scientific notation

That works. Thanks, Klaus!

Roger




On Nov 23, 2020, at 1:55 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Hi Roger,

you forgot + 0 :-)

on MouseUp
set the numberformat to 0 # NO quotes around this 0 or LC gives an
error  put 4.21911e+11 + 0 End mouseUp

-> 42191100


Am 23.11.2020 um 22:50 schrieb Roger Guay via use-livecode 
:
on MouseUp
set the numberformat to  “0"
put 4.21911e+11
End mouseUp
puts 4.21911e+11 into msg box
What am I missing?

Roger

Best

Klaus

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Re: Google and OpenSource apps

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

On 11/23/20 11:59 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:
The issue with deploying apps governed specifically by the Gnu Public License (GPL, which is 
used for LC Community distribution) has to do with Apple's limitation on the number of 
downloads per account.


That restriction is viewed as rendering Apple's ToS logically incompatible with the freedoms 
guaranteed in the GPL, which expressly require no limitations on usage. 



The restriction is only for the number of beta testers though. Is that enough to qualify for 
the restriction?


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Re: Getting a real number from scientific notation

[Roger Guay via use-livecode]

Yaknow, this whole thing is confusing. Turns out you don’t even need to set the 
numberFormat.
put 4.21911e+11 + 0 results in 42191000.

Roger

> On Nov 23, 2020, at 2:44 PM, Craig newman via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nope.
> 
> The "numberFormat" property is perfectly happy with quotes around its 
> formatExpression. It is also perfectly happy without it. But I always use 
> quotes for things like this.
> 
> Craig
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf 
> Of Roger Guay via use-livecode
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 5:25 PM
> To: How to use LiveCode 
> Cc: Roger Guay 
> Subject: Re: Getting a real number from scientific notation
> 
> That works. Thanks, Klaus!
> 
> Roger
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 23, 2020, at 1:55 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Roger,
>> 
>> you forgot + 0 :-)
>> 
>> on MouseUp
>> set the numberformat to 0 # NO quotes around this 0 or LC gives an 
>> error  put 4.21911e+11 + 0 End mouseUp
>> 
>> -> 42191100
>> 
>>> Am 23.11.2020 um 22:50 schrieb Roger Guay via use-livecode 
>>> :
>>> on MouseUp
>>> set the numberformat to  “0"
>>> put 4.21911e+11
>>> End mouseUp
>>> puts 4.21911e+11 into msg box
>>> What am I missing?
>>> 
>>> Roger
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Klaus
>> 
>> --
>> Klaus Major
>> https://www.major-k.de
>> kl...@major-k.de
>> 
>> 
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RE: Getting a real number from scientific notation

[Craig newman via use-livecode]

Nope.

The "numberFormat" property is perfectly happy with quotes around its 
formatExpression. It is also perfectly happy without it. But I always use 
quotes for things like this.

Craig

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
Roger Guay via use-livecode
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 5:25 PM
To: How to use LiveCode 
Cc: Roger Guay 
Subject: Re: Getting a real number from scientific notation

That works. Thanks, Klaus!

Roger



> On Nov 23, 2020, at 1:55 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Roger,
> 
> you forgot + 0 :-)
> 
> on MouseUp
>  set the numberformat to 0 # NO quotes around this 0 or LC gives an 
> error  put 4.21911e+11 + 0 End mouseUp
> 
> -> 42191100
> 
>> Am 23.11.2020 um 22:50 schrieb Roger Guay via use-livecode 
>> :
>>  on MouseUp
>>  set the numberformat to  “0"
>>  put 4.21911e+11
>>  End mouseUp
>> puts 4.21911e+11 into msg box
>> What am I missing?
>> 
>> Roger
> 
> Best
> 
> Klaus
> 
> --
> Klaus Major
> https://www.major-k.de
> kl...@major-k.de
> 
> 
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Re: Getting a real number from scientific notation

[Roger Guay via use-livecode]

That works. Thanks, Klaus!

Roger



> On Nov 23, 2020, at 1:55 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Roger,
> 
> you forgot + 0 :-)
> 
> on MouseUp
>  set the numberformat to 0 # NO quotes around this 0 or LC gives an error
>  put 4.21911e+11 + 0
> End mouseUp
> 
> -> 42191100
> 
>> Am 23.11.2020 um 22:50 schrieb Roger Guay via use-livecode 
>> :
>>  on MouseUp
>>  set the numberformat to  “0"
>>  put 4.21911e+11
>>  End mouseUp
>> puts 4.21911e+11 into msg box
>> What am I missing?
>> 
>> Roger
> 
> Best
> 
> Klaus
> 
> --
> Klaus Major
> https://www.major-k.de
> kl...@major-k.de
> 
> 
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Re: Getting a real number from scientific notation

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

> Am 23.11.2020 um 23:09 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Correction!
> 
>> Am 23.11.2020 um 22:55 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>> :
>> ...
>> on MouseUp
>> set the numberformat to 0
>> # NO quotes around this 0 or LC gives an error
> 
> Quotes are in fact allowed for the numberformat, but I copied the 
> script from my mail client and those were obviously Curky Quotes.

Curly not Curky of course 8-)

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Re: Getting a real number from scientific notation

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Correction!

> Am 23.11.2020 um 22:55 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> :
> ...
> on MouseUp
>  set the numberformat to 0
> # NO quotes around this 0 or LC gives an error

Quotes are in fact allowed for the numberformat, but I copied the 
script from my mail client and those were obviously Curky Quotes.

>  put 4.21911e+11 + 0
> End mouseUp

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Re: Getting a real number from scientific notation

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Roger,

you forgot + 0 :-)

on MouseUp
  set the numberformat to 0 # NO quotes around this 0 or LC gives an error
  put 4.21911e+11 + 0
End mouseUp

-> 42191100

> Am 23.11.2020 um 22:50 schrieb Roger Guay via use-livecode 
> :
>   on MouseUp
>   set the numberformat to  “0"
>   put 4.21911e+11
>   End mouseUp
> puts 4.21911e+11 into msg box
> What am I missing?
> 
> Roger

Best

Klaus

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Re: Getting a real number from scientific notation

[Roger Guay via use-livecode]

Oops, doesn’t work here. I have this script:
on MouseUp

set the numberformat to  “0"

put 4.21911e+11

End mouseUp

puts 4.21911e+11 into msg box

What am I missing?

Roger


> On Nov 23, 2020, at 6:57 AM, Craig newman via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Klaus.
> 
> Old fashioned way:
> 
> Set the numberFormat to "0"
> Answer "4.21911E+11" + 0
> 
> Craig
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
> Of Klaus major-k via use-livecode
> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2020 3:48 PM
> To: How to use LiveCode 
> Cc: Klaus major-k 
> Subject: Re: Getting a real number from scientific notation
> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
>> Am 22.11.2020 um 21:44 schrieb Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
> :
>> 
>> So, if you want to concert form scientific notation to a real number, you
> can use the "format" function (see dictionary). Example:
>> putformat("%1.0f",4.21911E+11) -- outputs 42191100 Is that shat yo 
>> are looking for?
> 
> YES, thanks a BUNCH, that is exactly what I need!
> 
> 
> Best
> 
> Klaus
> --
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> https://www.major-k.de
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> 
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Re: reading QR-code on Mac from an imported image

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Andrew,

> Am 23.11.2020 um 21:39 schrieb Andrew at MidWest Coast Media via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> You should be able to use mergAV with the source set as library or album. I 
> use the live camera (“video”) to read barcodes.
>   mergAVRequestMediaAccess "video"
> --Andrew Bell
> on mouseDown
> ...
> end mergAVCamBarcodeFound

thank you!

I knew about this, but how does this work with an IMPORTED image? 8-)


Best

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Re: reading QR-code on Mac from an imported image

[Andrew at MidWest Coast Media via use-livecode]

You should be able to use mergAV with the source set as library or album. I use 
the live camera (“video”) to read barcodes.
mergAVRequestMediaAccess "video"


--Andrew Bell

on mouseDown

mergAVRequestMediaAccess --“audio” ## DEPRECATED parameter requirement

end mouseDown


on mouseUp

if platform() <> "iphone" then

answer "Sorry, the barcode scanner feature is currently 
unavailable on this platform."

exit mouseUp

else

wait 500 milliseconds with messages

mergAVCamStartBarcodeReader

end if // platform()

end mouseUp


on mergAVCamBarcodeFound pBarcode, pType

answer pType && “barcode found” & cr & pBarcode

mergAVCamDelete

end mergAVCamBarcodeFound





> Subject: Re: reading QR-code on Mac from an imported image
> 
> No idea? Anyone?
> 
>> Am 20.11.2020 um 19:16 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> ist is possible to read the QR-code from an imported image
>> on the Mac? If yes, how?
>> The dictionary did not really enlighten me...
>> 
>> Thanks in advance!
>> 
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Klaus
> 
> --
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[ANN] This Week in LiveCode 246

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Hi all,

Read about new developments in LiveCode open source and the open source
community in today's edition of the "This Week in LiveCode" newsletter!

Read issue #246 here: https://bit.ly/2UTzR8V

This is a weekly newsletter about LiveCode, focussing on what's been
going on in and around the open source project. New issues will be
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If you have anything you'd like mentioned (a project, a discussion
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[ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-1

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.6.2 RC-1.


Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via
the automatic updater.


Release Contents

LiveCode 9.6.2 RC-1 comes with more than 35 changes, including:

New Features
  - Support for the newly released MacOS Big Sur
  - Support for building with Xcode 12.1, using the iOS 14.1 SDK
  - New tsNet and mergExt builds, built with the iOS 14.1 SDK

Bug Fixes:
  - Fixed crash with mobilePickPhoto on Android 11
  - Fixed 'revIsSpeaking()' function on Windows
  - Faster deployment to iOS simulator
  - Several fixes related to modal dialogs on MacOS
  - Several dictionary fixes and documentation improvements


For the full list of all fixes, updates and enhancements please see the
release notes:
http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/9_6_2/LiveCodeNotes-9_6_2_rc_1.pdf


Known issues

- The Browser widget's native layer is not shown in some Linux distros with
Cinnamon window manager.
- The use of the Browser widget is not supported on Ubuntu 18.04 64 bit LTS
yet.


Required Software
=
To build iOS apps with LiveCode you must have the appropriate versions of
Xcode as follows:

  - macOS 10.13.4: Xcode 10.1 - LiveCode builds iOS apps using the iOS 12.1
SDK
  - macOS 10.14.4: Xcode 11.3.x - LiveCode builds iOS apps using the iOS
13.2 SDK
  - macOS 10.15.4+: Xcode 12.1.x - LiveCode builds iOS apps using the iOS
14.1 SDK

There is a full list of working LiveCode/macOS/Xcode combinations here:
https://livecode.com/docs/9-5-0/faq/faq/

Note: Whilst we endeavour to release updated versions of LiveCode
supporting the latest Xcode/iOS SDKs as quickly as possible; we strongly
recommend disabling automatic update of Xcode or downloading the specific
version of Xcode required directly from the Apple developer portal and
installing it separately.

Important: From the end of June 2020, Apple is only accepting apps built
using iOS13 SDKs. This means that, if you wish to submit apps to the
AppStore you will have to be running at least macOS 10.14 in order to be
able to install the necessary version of Xcode.


Feedback

Please report any bugs encountered on our quality center at
http://quality.livecode.com/

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Re: reading QR-code on Mac from an imported image

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

why not ask LC if they will compile the external from ios to macos?

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 1:43 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Right, no idea. I've heard the barcode reader can read QR codes but that
> requires camera access and is for scanning external images. I've never
> heard of a utility that can read the binary content of an image to
> interpret a code.
>
> --
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> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
> On November 23, 2020 8:27:03 AM Klaus major-k via use-livecode
>  wrote:
>
> > No idea? Anyone?
> >
> >> Am 20.11.2020 um 19:16 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode
> >> :
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> ist is possible to read the QR-code from an imported image
> >> on the Mac? If yes, how?
> >> The dictionary did not really enlighten me...
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance!
> >>
> >>
> >> Best
> >>
> >> Klaus
> >
> > --
> > Klaus Major
> > https://www.major-k.de
> > kl...@major-k.de
> >
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Re: Google and OpenSource apps

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

J. Landman Gay wrote:

> With the caution that apps made from open source libraries usually
> can't charge money. It depends on the license.

Given the range of licenses out there I suppose anything's possible, but 
I've never seen an open source license that explicitly prohibits per-use 
end-user cost.


The GNU Public License (GPL) governing LC Community Edition expresses no 
opinion on costs at all.


Indeed, in the early days of the GPL none other than its inventor, 
Richard Stallman, used to sell floppies containing his GPL-governed 
utilities (though it was a modest fee, just enough to cover his material 
costs and time).


The "free" described in the GPL and other open source licenses isn't 
about money ("gratis") but freedom ("libre"). This ambiguity with "free" 
is among the many limitations of our language, but few speak Latin so 
the license was written in English, with descriptions of how "free" 
applies. :)


But although there are no licensing constraints on fees one may charge 
for the distribution of a finished software, those who receive the 
software do have the right to expect access to the source code at no 
additional cost.


And the GPL also grants them the freedom to modify the source code 
however they like, and to distribute their modified version and its 
source to whomever they like, at any price they like, which can (and use 
does) include zero.


So while there's no copyright constraint on charging for open source 
works, the restriction is simply pragmatic:


If you build a business model solely on per-user fees, and you choose a 
license that allows the user to have access to the source and to 
distribute modified versions of it, you will likely sell exactly one 
copy, to a user who will exercise those freedoms.


The GPL is an excellent license when your goal is about sharing for 
users, and proliferation of derivative works by other developers.


More permissive licenses like MIT may be useful for models benefiting 
from open source process and proprietary consumer deployment.


Proprietary licenses may be needed for other business models.

And with LC, they offer three models:

- Community, governed by GPL, favoring sharing.

- Community Plus, a proprietary license for free-as-in-gratis
  deployment to iOS and elsewhere.

- Indy and Business, for proprietary use also allowing per-use
  fee-based distribution.


And as Jacque noted, some bundled components may have their own 
licensing restrictions, where only some are dual-licensed and others 
proprietary-only - see license and functionality breakdown here:


https://livecode.com/products/livecode-platform/pricing/


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Re: reading QR-code on Mac from an imported image

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

Right, no idea. I've heard the barcode reader can read QR codes but that 
requires camera access and is for scanning external images. I've never 
heard of a utility that can read the binary content of an image to 
interpret a code.


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On November 23, 2020 8:27:03 AM Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
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No idea? Anyone?

Am 20.11.2020 um 19:16 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
:


Hi all,

ist is possible to read the QR-code from an imported image
on the Mac? If yes, how?
The dictionary did not really enlighten me...

Thanks in advance!


Best

Klaus


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Re: reading QR-code on Mac from an imported image

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Jim,

> Am 23.11.2020 um 19:21 schrieb Jim Lambert via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Klaus,
> 
> Would this help you?
> https://zxing.org/w/decode.jspx

thank you, but no.

I was hoping we could do this with and inside of LC with a 
build-in lib or external or whatever, as the subject says.

> Jim Lambert

Best

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Re: reading QR-code on Mac from an imported image

[Jim Lambert via use-livecode]

Klaus,

Would this help you?
https://zxing.org/w/decode.jspx

Jim Lambert

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Re: Google and OpenSource apps

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Klaus -

Does Google allow apps that have been created with the Community Version of LC?

Apple does definitively not, as I know.


AFAIK Apple has no policy prohibiting any open source app, provided it 
meets their other requirements.


The issue with deploying apps governed specifically by the Gnu Public 
License (GPL, which is used for LC Community distribution) has to do 
with Apple's limitation on the number of downloads per account.


That restriction is viewed as rendering Apple's ToS logically 
incompatible with the freedoms guaranteed in the GPL, which expressly 
require no limitations on usage.


AFAIK Google has no such limit on downloads, so their ToS is seen as 
compatible with the GPL.


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Re: Google and OpenSource apps

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

With the caution that apps made from open source libraries usually can't 
charge money. It depends on the license. Libraries aren't the same as 
development IDEs.


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On November 23, 2020 11:42:26 AM Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
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Hi Jaque,

Am 23.11.2020 um 18:17 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
:


I don't know. But I see a lot of free apps in the Play Store that are based 
on open source libraries. The information might be buried in the developer 
term of service docs.


thank you, so the answer is probably yes. :-)


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Best

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Re: Google and OpenSource apps

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Jaque,

> Am 23.11.2020 um 18:17 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I don't know. But I see a lot of free apps in the Play Store that are based 
> on open source libraries. The information might be buried in the developer 
> term of service docs.

thank you, so the answer is probably yes. :-)

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Best

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Re: Google and OpenSource apps

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

I don't know. But I see a lot of free apps in the Play Store that are based 
on open source libraries. The information might be buried in the developer 
term of service docs.


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On November 23, 2020 8:27:21 AM Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
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No idea? Anyone?

Am 21.11.2020 um 11:57 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
:


Hi friends,

quick question:
Does Google allow apps that have been created with the Community Version of LC?

Apple does definitively not, as I know.


Best

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Re: Getting a real number from scientific notation

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Craig,

> Am 23.11.2020 um 15:57 schrieb Craig newman via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Klaus.
> 
> Old fashioned way:
> Set the numberFormat to "0"
> Answer "4.21911E+11" + 0

oh, cool, thank you!

> Craig

Best

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RE: Getting a real number from scientific notation

[Craig newman via use-livecode]

Klaus.

Old fashioned way:

Set the numberFormat to "0"
Answer "4.21911E+11" + 0

Craig

-Original Message-
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Of Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2020 3:48 PM
To: How to use LiveCode 
Cc: Klaus major-k 
Subject: Re: Getting a real number from scientific notation

Hi Paul,

> Am 22.11.2020 um 21:44 schrieb Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
:
> 
> So, if you want to concert form scientific notation to a real number, you
can use the "format" function (see dictionary). Example:
> putformat("%1.0f",4.21911E+11) -- outputs 42191100 Is that shat yo 
> are looking for?

YES, thanks a BUNCH, that is exactly what I need!


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Re: Google and OpenSource apps

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

No idea? Anyone?

> Am 21.11.2020 um 11:57 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi friends,
> 
> quick question:
> Does Google allow apps that have been created with the Community Version of 
> LC?
> 
> Apple does definitively not, as I know.
> 
> 
> Best
> 
> Klaus

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Re: reading QR-code on Mac from an imported image

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

No idea? Anyone?

> Am 20.11.2020 um 19:16 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> ist is possible to read the QR-code from an imported image
> on the Mac? If yes, how?
> The dictionary did not really enlighten me...
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> 
> Best
> 
> Klaus

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Re: iOS notification app goes into background doesn't seem to work

[Graham Samuel via use-livecode]

Thanks Mark

Well, it does seem to be a bug, but is it in iOS or LC? It is weird that you 
get inconsistent results. Mine are more consistent, but still wrong. I plan to 
write to the mother ship and ask their opinion.

I am also getting perhaps related inconsistencies in the use of locationChanged 
messages to get GPS readings, or I think I am. It looks like sometimes when the 
app goes into the background it switches off the effect of
   mobileStartTrackingSensor "location"

which a script can only do by calling mobileStopTrackingSensor.

The apparent effect is that GPS readings just stop coming in, although other 
activity (in my case, a stopwatch-like timer) continues without a break. I am 
haunted by the idea that I’ve made some mistake in coding, of course, but it I 
haven’t then I need to know somehow that the readings have stopped and correct 
the situation before gaps appear in the record, i.e. within about a second. 
Can’t do that if I’m not notified of the switch to the background.

I have tried to look at the iOS SDK documentation but have become terminally 
confused - it seems to suggest that apps that go into the background are 
suspended and ‘do not receive events’. If that’s so, how do timer and 
navigation apps work? They still seem to be doing stuff even while the user is 
using another app to read the news, make a phone call or whatever. There must 
be a state between being active and just sitting in RAM and doing nothing. What 
is that state called and how does one invoke it?

Over my head...

Graham

> On 22 Nov 2020, at 13:30, Mark Smith  wrote:
> 
> Hi Graham,
> 
> So, apparently not 100% accurate but here are the results of some late hour 
> testing yesterday (I was also interested in evaluating something I needed to 
> occur around the time the date changed, hence the late hour testing.). But as 
> you can see, I had 3 ResignActiveNotifications before the first 
> DidBecomeActive occurred. 
> 
> 2:33:58 PM UIApplicationWillResignActiveNotification detected in SS
> 
> 11:22:40 PM UIApplicationWillResignActiveNotification detected in SS
> 
> 11:25:50 PM UIApplicationWillResignActiveNotification detected in SS
> 
> 11:33:19 PM UIApplicationDidBecomeActiveNotification detected in SS
> 
> 11:33:26 PM UIApplicationWillResignActiveNotification detected in SS
> 
> 1:21:48 AM UIApplicationDidBecomeActiveNotification detected in SS
> 
> 1:29:38 AM UIApplicationWillResignActiveNotification detected in SS
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2020, at 11:33 PM, Mark Smith > > wrote:
>> 
>> Graham, I think there might be a problem. I just re-enabled this code in one 
>> of my applications and the only thing I am seeing is the 
>> WillResignActiveNotification message, and not the 
>> DidBecomeActiveNotification message. Odd also because it is the exact 
>> opposite of what you are seeing, so we are both seeing half of the story, 
>> just not the same half :) I’ll keep it enabled and see if I can spot any 
>> patterns. 
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 20, 2020, at 9:48 PM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
>>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Mark
>>> 
>>> I tried exactly your suggestion. For me, the second notification appears 
>>> exactly as you say, but the first one doesn’t. It’s likely that I made a 
>>> silly mistake but I can’t see what it is. I put other stuff in the log, so 
>>> it’s not just a case of the text being overwritten. Obviously the app does 
>>> go into the background, since it is detected coming back to the foreground. 
>>> This test was on the Xcode simulator, but I got essentially the same 
>>> results on a real iPhone.
>>> 
>>> Strange.
>>> 
>>> Graham
>>> 
>>> 
 On 20 Nov 2020, at 17:21, Mark Smith >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi Graham, you can put something like the following in your handlers and 
 then check the log file to see when they were activated.  If you're using 
 Xcode you can download your “sandbox”  to your device. You’ll find the log 
 file in there. 
 put the long time && "UIApplicationWillResignActiveNotification detected" 
 & return after url ("file:" & specialFolderPath("documents") & "/log.txt")
 
 for example…
 
 10:39:05 AM UIApplicationWillResignActiveNotification detected in Stack 
 Script
 10:57:23 AM UIApplicationDidBecomeActiveNotification detected in Stack 
 Script
 
 
 
 
> On Nov 20, 2020, at 3:23 PM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>  >> wrote:
> 
> Thanks to Mark Smith and Henry Lowe, I know that I’m supposed to set up 
> mergNotify for two notifications as below.
> 
> I believe I’ve done this, and I’ve set a monitoring action (putting a 
> text into a field) to show that these notifications have happened.
> 
> Of course it may be just