Typing Text Into a Locked Field -- Win Surface

[Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode]

Hi,

I have a customer (in China) who is reporting that she is able to type text 
into a locked field on a Windows Surface device.

Context: a LC 9.6.1 runtime application installed on a Windows Surface computer 
(appears to be a laptop).

Field settings:
lockText = true
transversalOn = true
autoHilite = true


Video sent to me:
https://webfiles-pb.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/video/TypeTextInLockedField.mp4 


Another user in China with a standard Windows computer cannot reproduce that.

I don’t have a Surface to try it out, but my Windows in Parallels installation 
of the app shows it functioning normally.

Does anyone with a Surface see that happen?

Peter Bogdanoff
ArtsInteractive


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Re: What exactly does "put" do on Server?

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 4/20/21 6:01 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:

Postman shows a single reply to the client from Apache.

strace on the server shows each "put" implemented at the system level as 
a write to stdout.


So it looks to me like Apache buffers writes it receives and sends all 
of it to the client in one go, with a header that accurately accounts 
for the total size of multiple "put"s in the Content-Length.


I'm still curious to know how Apache knows when to send to the client - 
does it wait for the CGI to terminate?


But for now, at least it seems we have an answer to the question of 
whether LC Server or Apache buffers the writes.


Interesting. It's sounding like the stdout writes are being buffered 
until LC yields its process back to the system, and then Apache's 
process can pick things up again. But obviously I don't know.


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Re: What exactly does "put" do on Server?

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Postman shows a single reply to the client from Apache.

strace on the server shows each "put" implemented at the system level as 
a write to stdout.


So it looks to me like Apache buffers writes it receives and sends all 
of it to the client in one go, with a header that accurately accounts 
for the total size of multiple "put"s in the Content-Length.


I'm still curious to know how Apache knows when to send to the client - 
does it wait for the CGI to terminate?


But for now, at least it seems we have an answer to the question of 
whether LC Server or Apache buffers the writes.


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Tom Glod wrote:


Following, I've wondered this, but never had enough motivation to test it.

On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 4:00 PM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <
use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:


Normally, HTTP is used for request-reply patterns, where the server
receives the request, does some processing to it, and then sends back
the reply.

In a faceless environment like Server, "put" goes to stdout, yes?  So
when we say "put tData", then the contents of tData are handed back to
Apache which then sends them along to the client.

So what happens when I have a script that uses multiple "put" statements?

Does LC Server buffer all "put" output together and send it as one
string back to the client?

If so, why do I see faster results if I collect data myself and use only
one "put"?

If not, how does it write a meaningful header, since the length can't be
known in advance?

What exactly is the Server engine doing with "put"?

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Re: AWSS3 Redux

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

Mark,

Check the comments in the bug report for this ...and the new library file
is attached by Monte.
I agree...its handy + more.

On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 4:58 PM Mark Clark via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> The new ability to add an arbitrary S3 endpoint is pretty handy. Since I
> don’t think it’s made its way into an RC just yet, I was wondering if
> anyone has built a standalone with that feature enabled. So far my attempts
> have failed. Is there a knob to turn that I should know, but don’t?
>
> I have tried auto includes and manual inclusions (I added the alt aws
> library to my 9.6.2 RC2)
>
> Json lib
> MIME Library
> Amazon Web Services
> Object Repository Library (which I admit I got nothing there)
> Internet
> SSL & Encryption
> mergJSON
> tsNet
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: AWSS3 Redux

[Mark Clark via use-livecode]

The new ability to add an arbitrary S3 endpoint is pretty handy. Since I don’t 
think it’s made its way into an RC just yet, I was wondering if anyone has 
built a standalone with that feature enabled. So far my attempts have failed. 
Is there a knob to turn that I should know, but don’t?

I have tried auto includes and manual inclusions (I added the alt aws library 
to my 9.6.2 RC2)

Json lib
MIME Library
Amazon Web Services
Object Repository Library (which I admit I got nothing there)
Internet
SSL & Encryption
mergJSON
tsNet

Thanks,

Mark
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Re: What exactly does "put" do on Server?

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

Following, I've wondered this, but never had enough motivation to test it.

On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 4:00 PM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Normally, HTTP is used for request-reply patterns, where the server
> receives the request, does some processing to it, and then sends back
> the reply.
>
> In a faceless environment like Server, "put" goes to stdout, yes?  So
> when we say "put tData", then the contents of tData are handed back to
> Apache which then sends them along to the client.
>
> So what happens when I have a script that uses multiple "put" statements?
>
> Does LC Server buffer all "put" output together and send it as one
> string back to the client?
>
> If so, why do I see faster results if I collect data myself and use only
> one "put"?
>
> If not, how does it write a meaningful header, since the length can't be
> known in advance?
>
> What exactly is the Server engine doing with "put"?
>
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What exactly does "put" do on Server?

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Normally, HTTP is used for request-reply patterns, where the server 
receives the request, does some processing to it, and then sends back 
the reply.


In a faceless environment like Server, "put" goes to stdout, yes?  So 
when we say "put tData", then the contents of tData are handed back to 
Apache which then sends them along to the client.


So what happens when I have a script that uses multiple "put" statements?

Does LC Server buffer all "put" output together and send it as one 
string back to the client?


If so, why do I see faster results if I collect data myself and use only 
one "put"?


If not, how does it write a meaningful header, since the length can't be 
known in advance?


What exactly is the Server engine doing with "put"?

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Re: native scroller cuts off parts of last line in a field

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi all,

FYI, I created a report:



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Re: rant: truewordOffset

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 4/20/21 9:12 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:


Works fine here too:

set the wholeMatches to true
put trueWordOffset("BT", "foo btn")
   => 0

set the wholeMatches to false
put trueWordOffset("BT", "foo btn")
   => 2

Warmest Regards,

Mark.

P.S. Remember wholeMatches is a handler-local property not global - I 
only mention that because it sounds like it isn't actually the value you 
think when you are calling trueWordOffset.




nvm.
Actually this was a side effect of another function.

The truewordOffset function is indeed doing what it should, and I'm 
quite relieved to find that this was just an error in my own code.


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Re: rant: truewordOffset

[Mark Waddingham via use-livecode]

On 2021-04-20 17:04, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:

On 4/20/21 6:00 AM, Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode wrote:

Mark Wieder wrote
You can't just say

put truewordOffset("font", tText) into tOffset
because it might encounter "fontTable" first.


If I set wholematches to true it works for me


Unfortunately not here. Even with wholematches true


Works fine here too:

set the wholeMatches to true
put trueWordOffset("BT", "foo btn")
  => 0

set the wholeMatches to false
put trueWordOffset("BT", "foo btn")
  => 2

Warmest Regards,

Mark.

P.S. Remember wholeMatches is a handler-local property not global - I 
only mention that because it sounds like it isn't actually the value you 
think when you are calling trueWordOffset.


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Re: native scroller cuts off parts of last line in a field

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

There's a thread here on the list somewhere when I had the same problem. I 
did need to add some pixels to the height of the scroller. I wonder if 
formattedHeight is miscalculated on mobile.


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On April 20, 2021 6:51:25 AM Brian Milby via use-livecode 
 wrote:



I think that is just a bug.  See here for workaround idea:

https://github.com/Himalayan-Academy/Siva-Siva-App/blob/nightly/behaviors/behavior_mobileScroller.livecodescript

Basic idea is to add 60 or so px to content region and then adjust a bit 
when not at the top.  Requires adjustments in scrollerDidScroll handler.


Thanks,
Brian

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 20, 2021, at 7:26 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
 wrote:


?Hi all,

see subject...

I have a field, I grouped it and in the IDE I show the vscrollbar
of that group. I added two extra EMPTY lines at the end of that field
AFTER the last line, and in the IDE I can read the last line and see the bit
of white space below.

Then I created a native scroller according to the LC lesseon and it works fine.
--
ommand scrollererstellen
  put the rect of grp "scrollgroup" into tScrollerRect
  put 0,0,(the formattedWidth of group "scrollgroup"),(the formattedHeight of 
  group "scrollgroup") into tContentRect

  mobileControlCreate "scroller", "links"
  mobileControlSet "links", "rect", tScrollerRect
  mobileControlSet "links", "contentRect", tContentRect
  mobileControlSet "links", "visible", true
  mobileControlSet "links", "scrollingEnabled", true
  mobileControlSet "links", "vIndicator", true
  mobileControlSet "links", "vscroll", 0
end scrollererstellen

on scrollerDidScroll hOffset, vOffset
  set the vScroll of group "scrollgroup" to vOffset
end scrollerDidScroll
--
However the lower part of the last line is cut off in the native scroller and I
do not see the two empty lines!?
What am I missing?

Thanks for any hint!


Best

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Re: Enhancement request: show the execution contexts in debugger UI

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

There's a popdown button at the top left of the editor that shows the 
execution contexts. Do you need more information than that?


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On April 20, 2021 5:49:28 AM Andre Garzia via use-livecode 
 wrote:



Hi Folks,

I’ve just submit an enhancement request to add a pane to the script editor 
to show the execution contexts in the debugger UI. I hope others feel like 
this is a good enhancement and will join in to support it.


https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=23175 



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A
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Re: rant: truewordOffset

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 4/20/21 6:00 AM, Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode wrote:

Mark Wieder wrote
You can't just say

put truewordOffset("font", tText) into tOffset
because it might encounter "fontTable" first.


If I set wholematches to true it works for me


Unfortunately not here. Even with wholematches true

truewordOffset("BT", tText)
also catches instances of
"btn"
as well as "bt"

I have to check the result:

put truewordOffset(tValue, tText) into tPos
if trueword tPos of pText is tValue then
  # we found a trueword
end if

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Re: Android splash and icon

[Craig Newman via use-livecode]

Security stuff aside, the comedian Gary Gulman asserts that the phone is the 
least used app on his phone.

Craig

> On Apr 19, 2021, at 2:20 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> It's unlikely if the phone makes no calls, doesn't download any apps, and has 
> location, targeted ads, and other relevant permissions turned off. I have 
> four test phones, only one has an actual phone number, and the other three 
> only connect to my Mac and are largely invisible to the world.
> 
> I keep my tin foil hat on all the time. Up until Google required us to create 
> a Google+ account (ick) I looked up what Google knew about me (which they 
> don't show you any more.) Google thought I was a 35-year-old male and had no 
> other info. Tin foil hats work!
> 
> On 4/19/21 10:57 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
>> They can still find you and know everything about you. Unless your tin foil 
>> had is in working order. ;-)
>> Bob S
>>> On Apr 16, 2021, at 03:23 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> P.S.
>>> Yes, I bought me a used Samsung Galaxy J7, my first cellphone ever,
>>> and I am currently making my first steps on mobile.
>>> 
>>> However the phone is just for testing with LC, I do not intend to actually
>>> make phone calls with it. :-)
> 
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Re: rant: truewordOffset

[Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode]

Mark Wieder wrote
You can't just say

put truewordOffset("font", tText) into tOffset
because it might encounter "fontTable" first.


If I set wholematches to true it works for me

Kind regards
Bernd
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Re: native scroller cuts off parts of last line in a field

[e.beugelaar--- via use-livecode]

I am still wondering why layout issues anno 2021 has to be programmed manually 
for all devices. It is nonsense and don't make sense.
I started programming with Clipper 5.x in text base environments and even in 
that period we had ClipDAS, i was co-writer of it, to draw virtual screens.
Is it really so hard to add a general page designer to deal with positioning 
objects anno 2021! I dont want to spent my time on this stupid rect issues but 
instead focus on the business logic etc. Jesus.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Erik Beugelaar



From: use-livecode  on behalf of Klaus 
major-k via use-livecode 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 1:56:37 PM
To: How to use LiveCode 
Cc: Klaus major-k 
Subject: Re: native scroller cuts off parts of last line in a field

Hi Brian,

> Am 20.04.2021 um 13:48 schrieb Brian Milby via use-livecode 
> :
>
> I think that is just a bug.

wonderful! :-(

> See here for workaround idea:
> https://github.com/Himalayan-Academy/Siva-Siva-App/blob/nightly/behaviors/behavior_mobileScroller.livecodescript
> Basic idea is to add 60 or so px to content region and then adjust a bit when 
> not at the top.  Requires adjustments in scrollerDidScroll handler.

I even added a line of WHITE text (field has white background) at the end, but 
obviously LC does not see this!?
Will try the workaround thank you!

> Thanks,

no, I thank YOU! 8-)

> Brian

Best

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Re: native scroller cuts off parts of last line in a field

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Brian,

> Am 20.04.2021 um 13:48 schrieb Brian Milby via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I think that is just a bug.  

wonderful! :-(

> See here for workaround idea:
> https://github.com/Himalayan-Academy/Siva-Siva-App/blob/nightly/behaviors/behavior_mobileScroller.livecodescript
> Basic idea is to add 60 or so px to content region and then adjust a bit when 
> not at the top.  Requires adjustments in scrollerDidScroll handler.

I even added a line of WHITE text (field has white background) at the end, but 
obviously LC does not see this!?
Will try the workaround thank you!

> Thanks,

no, I thank YOU! 8-)

> Brian

Best

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Re: native scroller cuts off parts of last line in a field

[Brian Milby via use-livecode]

I think that is just a bug.  See here for workaround idea:

https://github.com/Himalayan-Academy/Siva-Siva-App/blob/nightly/behaviors/behavior_mobileScroller.livecodescript

Basic idea is to add 60 or so px to content region and then adjust a bit when 
not at the top.  Requires adjustments in scrollerDidScroll handler.

Thanks,
Brian

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 20, 2021, at 7:26 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> see subject...
> 
> I have a field, I grouped it and in the IDE I show the vscrollbar
> of that group. I added two extra EMPTY lines at the end of that field
> AFTER the last line, and in the IDE I can read the last line and see the bit 
> of white space below.
> 
> Then I created a native scroller according to the LC lesseon and it works 
> fine.
> --
> ommand scrollererstellen
>   put the rect of grp "scrollgroup" into tScrollerRect
>   put 0,0,(the formattedWidth of group "scrollgroup"),(the formattedHeight of 
> group "scrollgroup") into tContentRect
>   mobileControlCreate "scroller", "links"
>   mobileControlSet "links", "rect", tScrollerRect
>   mobileControlSet "links", "contentRect", tContentRect 
>   mobileControlSet "links", "visible", true
>   mobileControlSet "links", "scrollingEnabled", true 
>   mobileControlSet "links", "vIndicator", true 
>   mobileControlSet "links", "vscroll", 0
> end scrollererstellen
> 
> on scrollerDidScroll hOffset, vOffset
>   set the vScroll of group "scrollgroup" to vOffset
> end scrollerDidScroll
> --
> However the lower part of the last line is cut off in the native scroller and 
> I
> do not see the two empty lines!?
> What am I missing?
> 
> Thanks for any hint!
> 
> 
> Best
> 
> Klaus
> --
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> https://www.major-k.de
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native scroller cuts off parts of last line in a field

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi all,

see subject...

I have a field, I grouped it and in the IDE I show the vscrollbar
of that group. I added two extra EMPTY lines at the end of that field
AFTER the last line, and in the IDE I can read the last line and see the bit 
of white space below.

Then I created a native scroller according to the LC lesseon and it works fine.
--
ommand scrollererstellen
   put the rect of grp "scrollgroup" into tScrollerRect
   put 0,0,(the formattedWidth of group "scrollgroup"),(the formattedHeight of 
group "scrollgroup") into tContentRect
   mobileControlCreate "scroller", "links"
   mobileControlSet "links", "rect", tScrollerRect
   mobileControlSet "links", "contentRect", tContentRect 
   mobileControlSet "links", "visible", true
   mobileControlSet "links", "scrollingEnabled", true 
   mobileControlSet "links", "vIndicator", true 
   mobileControlSet "links", "vscroll", 0
end scrollererstellen

on scrollerDidScroll hOffset, vOffset
   set the vScroll of group "scrollgroup" to vOffset
end scrollerDidScroll
--
However the lower part of the last line is cut off in the native scroller and I
do not see the two empty lines!?
What am I missing?

Thanks for any hint!


Best

Klaus
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Re: Enhancement request: show the execution contexts in debugger UI

[Alex Tweedly via use-livecode]

I will join in to support (as soon as I remember which password gives me 
access).


But I think it would be more useful to have this displayed as a "value" 
palette - similar to what you get when you double-click a variable - 
rather than another tabbed pane.


Alex.


On 20/04/2021 11:46, Andre Garzia via use-livecode wrote:

Hi Folks,

I’ve just submit an enhancement request to add a pane to the script editor to 
show the execution contexts in the debugger UI. I hope others feel like this is 
a good enhancement and will join in to support it.

https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=23175 


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Enhancement request: show the execution contexts in debugger UI

[Andre Garzia via use-livecode]

Hi Folks,

I’ve just submit an enhancement request to add a pane to the script editor to 
show the execution contexts in the debugger UI. I hope others feel like this is 
a good enhancement and will join in to support it.

https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=23175 


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