Re: No progress updates on LC 10. Am i the only one who is concerned?

[Dick Kriesel via use-livecode]

> On Jul 25, 2023, at 7:49 PM, Geoff Canyon via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> So, not to be too much of an apologist, but the issue doesn't seem like a
> showstopper to me.


This is just a crashing bug to fix before RC1. Let the show go on!
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Re: No progress updates on LC 10. Am i the only one who is concerned?

[Geoff Canyon via use-livecode]

So, not to be too much of an apologist, but the issue doesn't seem like a
showstopper to me.

On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 10:36 AM Dick Kriesel via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

>
>
> > On Jul 25, 2023, at 11:37 AM, Geoff Canyon via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe a silly question, but that issue lists "turn on bracket completion"
> > as a step to reproduce. If bracket completion is off, is it safe?
>
> Hi, Geoff. I filed the report. With bracket completion off, I saw no such
> problem.
> — Dick
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Re: Which Livecode/Xcode/macOS/iOS version

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On 7/25/23 15:15, Paul Hibbert via use-livecode wrote:

Or, click on” Resources" in the main Nav menu then scroll down to “Support" and 
there’s your FAQ button!

Simples! :-)


Missing the point though.
You need to know it exists somewhere in order to go looking for it.
I think a FAQ should be front and center instead of buried a few layers 
down.


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Re: Which Livecode/Xcode/macOS/iOS version

[Paul Hibbert via use-livecode]

Or, click on” Resources" in the main Nav menu then scroll down to “Support" and 
there’s your FAQ button!

Simples! :-)

Paul

> On Jul 25, 2023, at 9:14 AM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 7/25/23 03:55, Heather Laine via use-livecode wrote:
>> https://livecode.com/resources/support/ask-a-question/ 
>> 
>> Top FAQ.
> 
> There's a FAQ?
> Why isn't there a link to it on the main web page?
> This really should be easier to get to for prospective users
> (aka customers. subscribers).
> 
> Apparently the only way to get there from the main page is
> 
> Scroll to the bottom
> Find the Resources link
> Click on Support (!)
> Scroll down to the Support section
> Find FAQ
> Click the button
> 
> It's down there just above the link to the April 2022 Live Conference.
> 
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Re: No progress updates on LC 10. Am i the only one who is concerned?

[Dick Kriesel via use-livecode]

> On Jul 25, 2023, at 11:37 AM, Geoff Canyon via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Maybe a silly question, but that issue lists "turn on bracket completion"
> as a step to reproduce. If bracket completion is off, is it safe?

Hi, Geoff. I filed the report. With bracket completion off, I saw no such 
problem.
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Re: How to persuade LC to accept Xcode for mobile support?

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

yep. you can't exceed versions. the restrictions are pretty strict.


On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 2:11 PM Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode
 wrote:
>
> Apologies for what is surely a FAQ, but I can't find this in the archives.
>
> Using LC 9.6.8 on macOS 12.6.7 with Xcode 13.4.1, trying to get set up for
> building to iOS for the first time in a long while; and failing at the first
> hurdle.
>
> In Preferences, Mobile Support, under iOS SDKs, I click "Add Entry" and select
> Xcode; and get the dreaded message
> The chosen folder is not a valid iOS SDK.
> Selected Xcode must have an iOS SDK among:
> 12.1
> 13.2
> 14.4
> 15.2
>
>
> Per https://livecode.com/resources/support/ask-a-question/ one of the
> supported combinations is:
> LiveCode 9.6.8  Xcode 13.2.xMac OS 11.3+iOS 15.2
>
> This is Xcode 13.4.1 rather than Xcode 13.2.x  - is that really the problem?
> Or am I missing something else?
>
> TIA,
>
> Ben
>
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Re: Has anyone experimented with using Python within LC?

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On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 4:10 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
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> Out of curiosity, what can be done in in Python that cannot be done in LC
> Script?
>

I'm learning more as I study python. This is pretty nice:

import re
x = re.split('[a|t]','this is a test and this is another')
print(x)

['', 'his is ', ' ', 'es', ' ', 'nd ', 'his is ', 'no', 'her']

Or if you want the dividers as well:

import re
x = re.split('([a|t])','this is a test and this is another')
print(x)

['', 't', 'his is ', 'a', ' ', 't', 'es', 't', ' ', 'a', 'nd ', 't', 'his
is ', 'a', 'no', 't', 'her']
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Re: No progress updates on LC 10. Am i the only one who is concerned?

[Geoff Canyon via use-livecode]

Maybe a silly question, but that issue lists "turn on bracket completion"
as a step to reproduce. If bracket completion is off, is it safe?

On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 11:55 PM Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> It's particularly frustrating because there are some good things in LC 10
> that
> I'd like to be looking at/exploiting; but there's a vicious bug in the
> current
> DP script editor that can cause loss of work*, which prevents me doing
> anything with it. Just a new DP that includes a fix for this bug would be
> a
> huge step forward in my view/situation.
>
> Ben
>
> * https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=24268
>
> On 24/07/2023 16:04, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I know Xavvi will be the next big step and I even helped with the
> funding.
> > But I'm wondering why there hasn't been any news about LC 10 for a some
> months now.
> > Am I the only one worried that the full focus is now on Xavvi and LC10
> is left behind?
> >
> > Matthias
> >
> >
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How to persuade LC to accept Xcode for mobile support?

[Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode]

Apologies for what is surely a FAQ, but I can't find this in the archives.

Using LC 9.6.8 on macOS 12.6.7 with Xcode 13.4.1, trying to get set up for 
building to iOS for the first time in a long while; and failing at the first 
hurdle.


In Preferences, Mobile Support, under iOS SDKs, I click "Add Entry" and select 
Xcode; and get the dreaded message

The chosen folder is not a valid iOS SDK.
Selected Xcode must have an iOS SDK among:
12.1
13.2
14.4
15.2


Per https://livecode.com/resources/support/ask-a-question/ one of the 
supported combinations is:

LiveCode 9.6.8  Xcode 13.2.xMac OS 11.3+iOS 15.2

This is Xcode 13.4.1 rather than Xcode 13.2.x  - is that really the problem? 
Or am I missing something else?


TIA,

Ben



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Re: Which Livecode/Xcode/macOS/iOS version

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

+1


> Am 25.07.2023 um 18:14 schrieb Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> On 7/25/23 03:55, Heather Laine via use-livecode wrote:
>> https://livecode.com/resources/support/ask-a-question/ 
>> 
>> Top FAQ.
> 
> There's a FAQ?
> Why isn't there a link to it on the main web page?
> This really should be easier to get to for prospective users
> (aka customers. subscribers).
> 
> Apparently the only way to get there from the main page is
> 
> Scroll to the bottom
> Find the Resources link
> Click on Support (!)
> Scroll down to the Support section
> Find FAQ
> Click the button
> 
> It's down there just above the link to the April 2022 Live Conference.
> 
> -- 
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Re: Which Livecode/Xcode/macOS/iOS version

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 7/25/23 03:55, Heather Laine via use-livecode wrote:

https://livecode.com/resources/support/ask-a-question/ 


Top FAQ.


There's a FAQ?
Why isn't there a link to it on the main web page?
This really should be easier to get to for prospective users
(aka customers. subscribers).

Apparently the only way to get there from the main page is

Scroll to the bottom
Find the Resources link
Click on Support (!)
Scroll down to the Support section
Find FAQ
Click the button

It's down there just above the link to the April 2022 Live Conference.

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Re: No progress updates on LC 10. Am i the only one who is concerned?

[Heather Laine via use-livecode]

Hi Matthias and list folks,

We are working on LiveCode 10 dp6. We expect it to ship in August, with support 
for Web Fonts plus a number of bug fixes. Web Fonts turned out to be rather 
trickier than expected but it looks like we've got it more or less sorted out 
now. 

If there are specific bugs in 10 dp-5 that are really problematic for you, its 
worth flagging them to me in support (not on the list) so I can at least find 
out for you if they will be fixed in dp-6. Please send me the bug report number 
from the Quality Center for checking. 

Best Regards,

Heather


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LiveCode Ltd
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> On 24 Jul 2023, at 16:04, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I know Xavvi will be the next big step and I even helped with the funding.
> But I'm wondering why there hasn't been any news about LC 10 for a some 
> months now.
> Am I the only one worried that the full focus is now on Xavvi and LC10 is 
> left behind?
> 
> Matthias
> 
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Re: Android app black screen?

[Mark Smith via use-livecode]

No worries, I understood 
Thanks



> On 25 Jul 2023, at 2:02 pm, panagiotis m via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> heh the name of the command should have been "initAR"
> 
> Cheers,
> Panos
> --
> 
> On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 at 16:01, panagiotis m  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Mark,
>> 
>> I had seen this issue on Android, not on iOS. And the workaround was to
>> use a "send in time" command to set the acceleratedRendering to true, for
>> example:
>> 
>> on preOpenStack
>>   send initAE to me in 300 millisec
>> end preOpenStack
>> 
>> command initAE
>>   set the acceleratedRendering of this stack to true
>> end initAE
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Panos
>> --
>> 
>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 at 15:49, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Panos,
>>> 
 Am 25.07.2023 um 14:16 schrieb panagiotis m via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
 
 Hello Klaus,
 
 Nope, I just asked because I had seen some similar issues when setting
>>> this
 property on preopenstack.
 
 Well, if the same app worked as expected before, then it may be just a
 random glitch, which would have been fixed with a restart of the device
 (i.e no need to delete and reinstall the app).
>>> 
>>> OK, I only switched the device off and on again, which is probably NOT a
>>> restart.
>>> Will keep this in mind for the next time, which hopefully will never
>>> happen. 8-)
>>> 
>>> Thank you!
>>> 
 Cheers,
 Panos
>>> 
>>> Best
>>> 
>>> Klaus
>>> 
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Re: Android app black screen?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Panos,

> Am 25.07.2023 um 15:02 schrieb panagiotis m via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> heh the name of the command should have been "initAR"

we got the picture anyway! :-D

> Cheers,
> Panos
> --
> 
> On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 at 16:01, panagiotis m  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Mark,
>> 
>> I had seen this issue on Android, not on iOS. And the workaround was to
>> use a "send in time" command to set the acceleratedRendering to true, for
>> example:
>> 
>> on preOpenStack
>>   send initAE to me in 300 millisec
>> end preOpenStack
>> 
>> command initAE
>>   set the acceleratedRendering of this stack to true
>> end initAE
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Panos
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Re: Android app black screen?

[panagiotis m via use-livecode]

heh the name of the command should have been "initAR"

Cheers,
Panos
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 at 16:01, panagiotis m  wrote:

> Hello Mark,
>
> I had seen this issue on Android, not on iOS. And the workaround was to
> use a "send in time" command to set the acceleratedRendering to true, for
> example:
>
> on preOpenStack
>send initAE to me in 300 millisec
> end preOpenStack
>
> command initAE
>set the acceleratedRendering of this stack to true
> end initAE
>
> Kind regards,
> Panos
> --
>
> On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 at 15:49, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Panos,
>>
>> > Am 25.07.2023 um 14:16 schrieb panagiotis m via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>> >
>> > Hello Klaus,
>> >
>> > Nope, I just asked because I had seen some similar issues when setting
>> this
>> > property on preopenstack.
>> >
>> > Well, if the same app worked as expected before, then it may be just a
>> > random glitch, which would have been fixed with a restart of the device
>> > (i.e no need to delete and reinstall the app).
>>
>> OK, I only switched the device off and on again, which is probably NOT a
>> restart.
>> Will keep this in mind for the next time, which hopefully will never
>> happen. 8-)
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> > Cheers,
>> > Panos
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Klaus
>>
>> --
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>> https://www.major-k.de
>> https://www.major-k.de/bass
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>>
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Re: Android app black screen?

[panagiotis m via use-livecode]

Hello Mark,

I had seen this issue on Android, not on iOS. And the workaround was to use
a "send in time" command to set the acceleratedRendering to true, for
example:

on preOpenStack
   send initAE to me in 300 millisec
end preOpenStack

command initAE
   set the acceleratedRendering of this stack to true
end initAE

Kind regards,
Panos
--

On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 at 15:49, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi Panos,
>
> > Am 25.07.2023 um 14:16 schrieb panagiotis m via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> >
> > Hello Klaus,
> >
> > Nope, I just asked because I had seen some similar issues when setting
> this
> > property on preopenstack.
> >
> > Well, if the same app worked as expected before, then it may be just a
> > random glitch, which would have been fixed with a restart of the device
> > (i.e no need to delete and reinstall the app).
>
> OK, I only switched the device off and on again, which is probably NOT a
> restart.
> Will keep this in mind for the next time, which hopefully will never
> happen. 8-)
>
> Thank you!
>
> > Cheers,
> > Panos
>
> Best
>
> Klaus
>
> --
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> https://www.major-k.de
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Re: Android app black screen?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Panos,

> Am 25.07.2023 um 14:16 schrieb panagiotis m via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hello Klaus,
> 
> Nope, I just asked because I had seen some similar issues when setting this
> property on preopenstack.
> 
> Well, if the same app worked as expected before, then it may be just a
> random glitch, which would have been fixed with a restart of the device
> (i.e no need to delete and reinstall the app).

OK, I only switched the device off and on again, which is probably NOT a 
restart.
Will keep this in mind for the next time, which hopefully will never happen. 8-)

Thank you!

> Cheers,
> Panos

Best

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Re: Android app black screen?

[Mark Smith via use-livecode]

Hi Panos,

I do set accelerated rendering to true in a preopencard handler on the “main”, 
“first”, “home” card (whatever you want to call it). It’s in the section of 
code that defines the properties of the data grid. Do you think this possibly 
could cause a problem?

> On 25 Jul 2023, at 1:16 pm, panagiotis m via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Klaus,
> 
> Nope, I just asked because I had seen some similar issues when setting this
> property on preopenstack.
> 
> Well, if the same app worked as expected before, then it may be just a
> random glitch, which would have been fixed with a restart of the device
> (i.e no need to delete and reinstall the app).
> 
> Cheers,
> Panos
> 
> On Tue, 25 Jul 2023, 15:11 Klaus major-k via use-livecode, <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Panos,
>> 
>>> Am 25.07.2023 um 14:06 schrieb panagiotis m via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>>> 
>>> Hello Klaus,
>>> 
>>> Are you setting the acceleratedRendering to true on startup?
>> 
>> no, should I? 8-)
>> However this came out of a sudden after using my (same) app many times
>> before...
>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Panos
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2023, 12:15 Mark Smith via use-livecode, <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Klaus,
 
 I’ve had similar things happen on iOS, perhaps more recently in the past
 year than previously. Sometimes when I open the app (I’m not sure at
>> these
 times if the app is just suspended or is actually reopening) I’ll get a
 black screen. If I tap on it 90% of the time it goes away and reveals
>> the
 appropriate screen image. Very rarely the single or multiple taps
>> solution
 does not work I’ve had to shut the app down (remove from memory) and
>> then
 restart it again. This always fixes the problem (if the tapping
>> doesn’t).
 It’s had me wondering where in the process it “hangs” since tapping the
 screen suggests it is still “alive" but just stuck somewhere and not
 displaying the appropriate screen image. On iOS I believe when you
>> suspend
 an app (put it into the background) it just “maintains” the current
>> screen
 image and re-presents that when you reopen. Up to now I’ve not spend any
 time trying to debug this. It would be nice to be able to trace the
>> problem
 back to its origins and institute a remedy. Please let me know if you
>> come
 up with any suggestions.
 
 Best,
 Mark
 
 
> On 24 Jul 2023, at 8:04 pm, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
 use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> today I used my Android app at home, no problems.
> Then I went to our band rehearsal, started the app and
> only got a black screen!?
> 
> Everything else on the device worked without problems.
> De- and re-installing the app fixed it.
> 
> Has someone also experienced something like this?
> 
> Samsung tablet TAB A, Android 5.1, LC 9.6.9.
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Klaus
>> 
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Re: Android app black screen?

[panagiotis m via use-livecode]

Hello Klaus,

Nope, I just asked because I had seen some similar issues when setting this
property on preopenstack.

Well, if the same app worked as expected before, then it may be just a
random glitch, which would have been fixed with a restart of the device
(i.e no need to delete and reinstall the app).

Cheers,
Panos

On Tue, 25 Jul 2023, 15:11 Klaus major-k via use-livecode, <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi Panos,
>
> > Am 25.07.2023 um 14:06 schrieb panagiotis m via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> >
> > Hello Klaus,
> >
> > Are you setting the acceleratedRendering to true on startup?
>
> no, should I? 8-)
> However this came out of a sudden after using my (same) app many times
> before...
>
> > Kind regards,
> > Panos
> >
> > On Tue, 25 Jul 2023, 12:15 Mark Smith via use-livecode, <
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Klaus,
> >>
> >> I’ve had similar things happen on iOS, perhaps more recently in the past
> >> year than previously. Sometimes when I open the app (I’m not sure at
> these
> >> times if the app is just suspended or is actually reopening) I’ll get a
> >> black screen. If I tap on it 90% of the time it goes away and reveals
> the
> >> appropriate screen image. Very rarely the single or multiple taps
> solution
> >> does not work I’ve had to shut the app down (remove from memory) and
> then
> >> restart it again. This always fixes the problem (if the tapping
> doesn’t).
> >> It’s had me wondering where in the process it “hangs” since tapping the
> >> screen suggests it is still “alive" but just stuck somewhere and not
> >> displaying the appropriate screen image. On iOS I believe when you
> suspend
> >> an app (put it into the background) it just “maintains” the current
> screen
> >> image and re-presents that when you reopen. Up to now I’ve not spend any
> >> time trying to debug this. It would be nice to be able to trace the
> problem
> >> back to its origins and institute a remedy. Please let me know if you
> come
> >> up with any suggestions.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Mark
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 24 Jul 2023, at 8:04 pm, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
> >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> today I used my Android app at home, no problems.
> >>> Then I went to our band rehearsal, started the app and
> >>> only got a black screen!?
> >>>
> >>> Everything else on the device worked without problems.
> >>> De- and re-installing the app fixed it.
> >>>
> >>> Has someone also experienced something like this?
> >>>
> >>> Samsung tablet TAB A, Android 5.1, LC 9.6.9.
>
> Best
>
> Klaus
>
> --
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> https://www.major-k.de
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Re: Android app black screen?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Panos,

> Am 25.07.2023 um 14:06 schrieb panagiotis m via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hello Klaus,
> 
> Are you setting the acceleratedRendering to true on startup?

no, should I? 8-)
However this came out of a sudden after using my (same) app many times before...

> Kind regards,
> Panos
> 
> On Tue, 25 Jul 2023, 12:15 Mark Smith via use-livecode, <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Klaus,
>> 
>> I’ve had similar things happen on iOS, perhaps more recently in the past
>> year than previously. Sometimes when I open the app (I’m not sure at these
>> times if the app is just suspended or is actually reopening) I’ll get a
>> black screen. If I tap on it 90% of the time it goes away and reveals the
>> appropriate screen image. Very rarely the single or multiple taps solution
>> does not work I’ve had to shut the app down (remove from memory) and then
>> restart it again. This always fixes the problem (if the tapping doesn’t).
>> It’s had me wondering where in the process it “hangs” since tapping the
>> screen suggests it is still “alive" but just stuck somewhere and not
>> displaying the appropriate screen image. On iOS I believe when you suspend
>> an app (put it into the background) it just “maintains” the current screen
>> image and re-presents that when you reopen. Up to now I’ve not spend any
>> time trying to debug this. It would be nice to be able to trace the problem
>> back to its origins and institute a remedy. Please let me know if you come
>> up with any suggestions.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>>> On 24 Jul 2023, at 8:04 pm, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> today I used my Android app at home, no problems.
>>> Then I went to our band rehearsal, started the app and
>>> only got a black screen!?
>>> 
>>> Everything else on the device worked without problems.
>>> De- and re-installing the app fixed it.
>>> 
>>> Has someone also experienced something like this?
>>> 
>>> Samsung tablet TAB A, Android 5.1, LC 9.6.9.

Best

Klaus

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Re: Android app black screen?

[panagiotis m via use-livecode]

Hello Klaus,

Are you setting the acceleratedRendering to true on startup?

Kind regards,
Panos

On Tue, 25 Jul 2023, 12:15 Mark Smith via use-livecode, <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi Klaus,
>
> I’ve had similar things happen on iOS, perhaps more recently in the past
> year than previously. Sometimes when I open the app (I’m not sure at these
> times if the app is just suspended or is actually reopening) I’ll get a
> black screen. If I tap on it 90% of the time it goes away and reveals the
> appropriate screen image. Very rarely the single or multiple taps solution
> does not work I’ve had to shut the app down (remove from memory) and then
> restart it again. This always fixes the problem (if the tapping doesn’t).
> It’s had me wondering where in the process it “hangs” since tapping the
> screen suggests it is still “alive" but just stuck somewhere and not
> displaying the appropriate screen image. On iOS I believe when you suspend
> an app (put it into the background) it just “maintains” the current screen
> image and re-presents that when you reopen. Up to now I’ve not spend any
> time trying to debug this. It would be nice to be able to trace the problem
> back to its origins and institute a remedy. Please let me know if you come
> up with any suggestions.
>
> Best,
> Mark
>
>
> > On 24 Jul 2023, at 8:04 pm, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > today I used my Android app at home, no problems.
> > Then I went to our band rehearsal, started the app and
> > only got a black screen!?
> >
> > Everything else on the device worked without problems.
> > De- and re-installing the app fixed it.
> >
> > Has someone also experienced something like this?
> >
> > Samsung tablet TAB A, Android 5.1, LC 9.6.9.
> >
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Klaus
> > --
> > Klaus Major
> > https://www.major-k.de
> > https://www.major-k.de/bass
> > kl...@major-k.de
> >
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Re: Which Livecode/Xcode/macOS/iOS version

[Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode]

Thanks Heather!

On 25/07/2023 11:55, Heather Laine via use-livecode wrote:

https://livecode.com/resources/support/ask-a-question/ 


Top FAQ.

Best

Heather

Heather Laine
Customer Services Manager
LiveCode Ltd
www.livecode.com




On 25 Jul 2023, at 11:06, Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Somewhere on the livecode.com there used to be a very useful table which showed 
which versions of Livecode could run on which versions of macOS with which 
versions of Xcode in order to build to which versions of iOS.

I can't find it now... can anyone point me at it?

Many thanks,

Ben

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Re: No progress updates on LC 10. Am i the only one who is concerned?

[Pi Digital via use-livecode]

> On 25 Jul 2023, at 01:24, Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> it's not that it isn't there, it's that it isn't in a state that is
> ready-for-prime-time


I’ve had to abandon a project and hence a client and hence LiveCode all 
together because of this single solitary issue. My company went bankrupt and is 
now dissolved because of this. 

LC have told me not to speak out against them as a company on this platform for 
fear of being removed from this chat area. Sure, some of the decisions made by 
me have led to the dissolving of Pi Digital Productions Ltd, but a lot WAS 
based on the PROMISE made pre-pandemic by LC that HTML5 would be ready for 
live, non-beta use ‘soon’. 

4 years on and having paid for a HTML5 licence I STILL have not been able to 
use, clients become frustrated and annoyed that we STILL have been unable to 
deliver and the bitten bullet eventually explodes in our faces. 

This is the primary reason I have not been heard from on this area for a while 
now. I am now working as a shop assistant in a local shop having moved to a 
remote area on the Isle of Skye. There’s not many employers who will take 
LiveCode experience as experience of coding. And there’s little hope of finding 
clients who will want or have their apps coded in LC. 

Theoretically I should ask for a refund on the HTML license as they have simply 
not delivered on their promise. But I can’t be bothered with the hassle of 
arguing with a company who just don’t seem to listen. I know a lot of you here 
will disagree- but I can only speak from my own experience over the last 17 
years. Besides, a refund would not come close to the amount my company 
haemorrhaged as a direct result of LC failing to deliver. 

There, I’m guessing this will get me banned from this platform but, seeing as I 
can no longer use LC for anything practical, I suppose it no longer matters and 
most of you hear will be thinking ‘good riddance’ anyway. 

Like me, LC will fail if they continue to be incapable of delivering on 
promises. Adding new features and/or applications without sorting out current 
ones and actually getting them into the wild will just add new problems and 
forget old ones. Our clients cannot work on a 5 year turnaround so how can LC 
continue to think we can accept it? It’s impossible working conditions. If a 
boss offered you better working conditions in a place of work but took 5 years 
to deliver on that promise, what would you think of them as a manager? This is 
effectively what was suffered. It amounts to unfair treatment in the workplace 
and caused me a great deal of anguish over the years, as many of you are well 
aware.

My hope is that LC read this for your benefits and learn from it. It’s too late 
for me - I’ve moved on. But hopefully they can get v10 and HTML out sooner 
rather than later so that you can actually begin to make use of your 
investments. 

All the best and peace to you all. 

Sean Cole
Ex Director of Pi Digital

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Re: Which Livecode/Xcode/macOS/iOS version

[Heather Laine via use-livecode]

https://livecode.com/resources/support/ask-a-question/ 


Top FAQ.

Best 

Heather

Heather Laine
Customer Services Manager
LiveCode Ltd
www.livecode.com



> On 25 Jul 2023, at 11:06, Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Somewhere on the livecode.com there used to be a very useful table which 
> showed which versions of Livecode could run on which versions of macOS with 
> which versions of Xcode in order to build to which versions of iOS.
> 
> I can't find it now... can anyone point me at it?
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Ben
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Which Livecode/Xcode/macOS/iOS version

[Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode]

Somewhere on the livecode.com there used to be a very useful table which 
showed which versions of Livecode could run on which versions of macOS with 
which versions of Xcode in order to build to which versions of iOS.


I can't find it now... can anyone point me at it?

Many thanks,

Ben

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Re: No progress updates on LC 10. Am i the only one who is concerned?

[Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode]

It's particularly frustrating because there are some good things in LC 10 that 
I'd like to be looking at/exploiting; but there's a vicious bug in the current 
DP script editor that can cause loss of work*, which prevents me doing 
anything with it. Just a new DP that includes a fix for this bug would be a 
huge step forward in my view/situation.


Ben

* https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=24268

On 24/07/2023 16:04, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote:

Hi,

I know Xavvi will be the next big step and I even helped with the funding.
But I'm wondering why there hasn't been any news about LC 10 for a some months 
now.
Am I the only one worried that the full focus is now on Xavvi and LC10 is left 
behind?

Matthias


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Re: Android app black screen?

[Mark Smith via use-livecode]

Hi Klaus, 

I’ve had similar things happen on iOS, perhaps more recently in the past year 
than previously. Sometimes when I open the app (I’m not sure at these times if 
the app is just suspended or is actually reopening) I’ll get a black screen. If 
I tap on it 90% of the time it goes away and reveals the appropriate screen 
image. Very rarely the single or multiple taps solution does not work I’ve had 
to shut the app down (remove from memory) and then restart it again. This 
always fixes the problem (if the tapping doesn’t). It’s had me wondering where 
in the process it “hangs” since tapping the screen suggests it is still “alive" 
but just stuck somewhere and not displaying the appropriate screen image. On 
iOS I believe when you suspend an app (put it into the background) it just 
“maintains” the current screen image and re-presents that when you reopen. Up 
to now I’ve not spend any time trying to debug this. It would be nice to be 
able to trace the problem back to its origins and institute a remedy. Please 
let me know if you come up with any suggestions.

Best,
Mark


> On 24 Jul 2023, at 8:04 pm, Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> today I used my Android app at home, no problems.
> Then I went to our band rehearsal, started the app and 
> only got a black screen!?
> 
> Everything else on the device worked without problems.
> De- and re-installing the app fixed it.
> 
> Has someone also experienced something like this?
> 
> Samsung tablet TAB A, Android 5.1, LC 9.6.9.
> 
> 
> Best
> 
> Klaus
> --
> Klaus Major
> https://www.major-k.de
> https://www.major-k.de/bass
> kl...@major-k.de
> 
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