Re: Livecode startup messages...
Did you try the this "workaround"? 1. Open Windows Task Manager 2. Search for a process named "Spooler Subsystem app" or just "Print Spooler" 3. Force quit this process If this solves the problem, then maybe 9.6.11 still contains a bug that already was fixed in earlier versions. Regards, Matthias > Am 08.05.2024 um 22:01 schrieb Paul Dupuis via use-livecode > : > > Yes, > > I figured that out earlier this week and just hadn't had time to post. It is > some sort of Windows 11 issue and not on all Windows 11 systems. Still don't > know what it is. The 3 printers on our office network are all HPs and I think > all my drivers are up to date. I also have a couple of different PDF printer > drivers installed (Microsoft's, Foxit's and one other) > > > On 5/8/2024 1:20 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: >> this is not just a lc issue >> we use 4d, extensively, and every time a 4d client starts on windows, the >> same message appears >> >> On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 6:20 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >>> Interesting. As I’ve mentioned I install and provide IT support for >>> copiers and printers. Ever since Windows 8 (I believe) Microsoft has been >>> providing built in drivers for these devices, and they use what is called a >>> WSD (Windows Service Daemon) port instead of a typical TCP/IP port. >>> >>> If you go to install a printer and you see a list of icons representing >>> the discovered printers on the network, NEVER EVER USE THEM! Manufacturers >>> will not support them, and they cause all kinds of issues. ALWAYS select >>> “The device I want isn’t listed” and use the standard TCP/IP method of >>> installing a printer, or better yet the manufacturer probably supplies an >>> executable either downloaded or on a CD ROM. Use that. >>> >>> Of course, that does not help LC devs who are deploying apps to end users >>> who cannot be told what to do. >>> >>> Bob S >>> >>> On May 3, 2024, at 2:33 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode < >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: There was a problem in the past where standalones were LC IDE, LC >>> Instaler and standalones were crashing on startup. This is what Panos wrote about it: We recently fixed a bug (affecting mainly Windows 11) where the LC installer, the LC IDE and Windows standalones were crashing on startup. >>> It turned out this was caused if some generic printer drivers were installed in the device, and installing the official printer drivers from the vendor's website prevented the crash. We had reports for Brother >>> printers, Epson and HP if I remember correctly. The fix we added did fix the crash, but in some cases caused a delay on startup, if the device still had the "generic" printer driver installed. << Maybe there is a regression in some way that LC now does not crash but >>> shows the messages. Could you try the following? 1. Open Windows Task Manager 2. Search for a process named "Spooler Subsystem app" or just "Print Spooler" 3. Force quit this process If this solves it, then it seems to be a regression in the new LC dp >>> builds. Regards, Matthias > Am 03.05.2024 um 20:16 schrieb Paul Dupuis via use-livecode < >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>: > I had not searched the forums, but I just did for "Waiting for printer" >>> and "printer connections" and neither phrase turned up anything related to >>> the dialog that appears on startup (unfortunately). Maybe under another >>> search term, but the general term of "printer" returns 38 screens of forum >>> messages! Good suggestion though. Thank you. > > On 5/3/2024 1:43 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: >> I think this has come up before, but I forget the resolution. Did you >>> search the forums? >> Bob S >> >> >>> On May 3, 2024, at 10:40 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode < >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >>> When LC 9.6.11 or 9.6.12rc1 starts up OR (more importantly to me) >>> Standalones build with either of those versions starts up, on Windows 11, >>> there is a dialog that appear stating "Waiting for printer connections..." >>> This dialog may appear on earlier versions - I forget if I had seen >>> it previously. >>> Is there some setting to prevent or hide this dialog? In my >>> standalone app, I have customers asking what is it and find it "annoying". >>> >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this
Re: Livecode startup messages...
Yes, I figured that out earlier this week and just hadn't had time to post. It is some sort of Windows 11 issue and not on all Windows 11 systems. Still don't know what it is. The 3 printers on our office network are all HPs and I think all my drivers are up to date. I also have a couple of different PDF printer drivers installed (Microsoft's, Foxit's and one other) On 5/8/2024 1:20 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: this is not just a lc issue we use 4d, extensively, and every time a 4d client starts on windows, the same message appears On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 6:20 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: Interesting. As I’ve mentioned I install and provide IT support for copiers and printers. Ever since Windows 8 (I believe) Microsoft has been providing built in drivers for these devices, and they use what is called a WSD (Windows Service Daemon) port instead of a typical TCP/IP port. If you go to install a printer and you see a list of icons representing the discovered printers on the network, NEVER EVER USE THEM! Manufacturers will not support them, and they cause all kinds of issues. ALWAYS select “The device I want isn’t listed” and use the standard TCP/IP method of installing a printer, or better yet the manufacturer probably supplies an executable either downloaded or on a CD ROM. Use that. Of course, that does not help LC devs who are deploying apps to end users who cannot be told what to do. Bob S On May 3, 2024, at 2:33 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: There was a problem in the past where standalones were LC IDE, LC Instaler and standalones were crashing on startup. This is what Panos wrote about it: We recently fixed a bug (affecting mainly Windows 11) where the LC installer, the LC IDE and Windows standalones were crashing on startup. It turned out this was caused if some generic printer drivers were installed in the device, and installing the official printer drivers from the vendor's website prevented the crash. We had reports for Brother printers, Epson and HP if I remember correctly. The fix we added did fix the crash, but in some cases caused a delay on startup, if the device still had the "generic" printer driver installed. << Maybe there is a regression in some way that LC now does not crash but shows the messages. Could you try the following? 1. Open Windows Task Manager 2. Search for a process named "Spooler Subsystem app" or just "Print Spooler" 3. Force quit this process If this solves it, then it seems to be a regression in the new LC dp builds. Regards, Matthias Am 03.05.2024 um 20:16 schrieb Paul Dupuis via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>: I had not searched the forums, but I just did for "Waiting for printer" and "printer connections" and neither phrase turned up anything related to the dialog that appears on startup (unfortunately). Maybe under another search term, but the general term of "printer" returns 38 screens of forum messages! Good suggestion though. Thank you. On 5/3/2024 1:43 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: I think this has come up before, but I forget the resolution. Did you search the forums? Bob S On May 3, 2024, at 10:40 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: When LC 9.6.11 or 9.6.12rc1 starts up OR (more importantly to me) Standalones build with either of those versions starts up, on Windows 11, there is a dialog that appear stating "Waiting for printer connections..." This dialog may appear on earlier versions - I forget if I had seen it previously. Is there some setting to prevent or hide this dialog? In my standalone app, I have customers asking what is it and find it "annoying". ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:
Re: Livecode startup messages...
this is not just a lc issue we use 4d, extensively, and every time a 4d client starts on windows, the same message appears On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 6:20 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Interesting. As I’ve mentioned I install and provide IT support for > copiers and printers. Ever since Windows 8 (I believe) Microsoft has been > providing built in drivers for these devices, and they use what is called a > WSD (Windows Service Daemon) port instead of a typical TCP/IP port. > > If you go to install a printer and you see a list of icons representing > the discovered printers on the network, NEVER EVER USE THEM! Manufacturers > will not support them, and they cause all kinds of issues. ALWAYS select > “The device I want isn’t listed” and use the standard TCP/IP method of > installing a printer, or better yet the manufacturer probably supplies an > executable either downloaded or on a CD ROM. Use that. > > Of course, that does not help LC devs who are deploying apps to end users > who cannot be told what to do. > > Bob S > > > > On May 3, 2024, at 2:33 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > There was a problem in the past where standalones were LC IDE, LC > Instaler and standalones were crashing on startup. > >>> > > This is what Panos wrote about it: > > We recently fixed a bug (affecting mainly Windows 11) where the LC > > installer, the LC IDE and Windows standalones were crashing on startup. > It > > turned out this was caused if some generic printer drivers were installed > > in the device, and installing the official printer drivers from the > > vendor's website prevented the crash. We had reports for Brother > printers, > > Epson and HP if I remember correctly. > > > > The fix we added did fix the crash, but in some cases caused a delay on > > startup, if the device still had the "generic" printer driver installed. > > << > > > > > > Maybe there is a regression in some way that LC now does not crash but > shows the messages. > > > > Could you try the following? > > > > 1. Open Windows Task Manager > > 2. Search for a process named "Spooler Subsystem app" or just "Print > > Spooler" > > 3. Force quit this process > > > > If this solves it, then it seems to be a regression in the new LC dp > builds. > > > > Regards, > > > > Matthias > > > > > > > > > >> Am 03.05.2024 um 20:16 schrieb Paul Dupuis via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>: > >> > >> I had not searched the forums, but I just did for "Waiting for printer" > and "printer connections" and neither phrase turned up anything related to > the dialog that appears on startup (unfortunately). Maybe under another > search term, but the general term of "printer" returns 38 screens of forum > messages! Good suggestion though. Thank you. > >> > >> > >> On 5/3/2024 1:43 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: > >>> I think this has come up before, but I forget the resolution. Did you > search the forums? > >>> > >>> Bob S > >>> > >>> > On May 3, 2024, at 10:40 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > When LC 9.6.11 or 9.6.12rc1 starts up OR (more importantly to me) > Standalones build with either of those versions starts up, on Windows 11, > there is a dialog that appear stating "Waiting for printer connections..." > > This dialog may appear on earlier versions - I forget if I had seen > it previously. > > Is there some setting to prevent or hide this dialog? In my > standalone app, I have customers asking what is it and find it "annoying". > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> use-livecode mailing list > >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> use-livecode mailing list > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: >
Re: Supress Standalone Builder Warnings
Bob: > Thanks for your help and Jacque as well. Very welcome, good topic! But STILL a different/partial implementation – ‘Main stacks’ triggers wrong connotation for you. Not the build stack or the project stack ... but, in your case: > library or behavior stacks Yes, THOSE! Whatever stacks are identified via subsequent dialogs. > I could enumerate all of those and then just have code that > statically closes each stack. Yep, that’s the delete part. Only the ones announced in dialogs. If more than a couple, use a repeat to test or try each separately. (MAIN stacks, not substacks, for safety with LC ‘delete stack’!) > The SB ought not to do that! Very true. Reported (again) to LC yet? Already resolved for my project though, so I will focus on other LC issues here, after a break for more AAC setup! Best wishes, Curry Kenworthy Radically Innovative Christian LiveCode Development "PASSION for Elegant, Efficient Code!" http://livecodeconsulting.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
