iOS8 Encrpytion working?
I keep getting this error when I BUILD for iOS on 7.0.3 Any idea why? Runs fine in simulator. Encryption is checked but it's acting like it's not checked. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Major Bug in 6.7?
When building a standalone, command-Q *or* selecting *Quit* from the menubar won’t quit the app. Try it in a simple stack: 1. Create Stack 2. Save as standalone 3. Launch and try to Quit I’ve tested in earlier versions of LC and it works as expected. In 6.7 it seems *NOT* to work. Chipp Walters ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Major Bug in 6.7?
I should mention I'm on Mac Yosemite. Chipp Walters On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: When building a standalone, command-Q *or* selecting *Quit* from the menubar won’t quit the app. Try it in a simple stack: 1. Create Stack 2. Save as standalone 3. Launch and try to Quit I’ve tested in earlier versions of LC and it works as expected. In 6.7 it seems *NOT* to work. Chipp Walters ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
iOS Icon sizes? Splash screen sizes?
Where oh where would one find these? I have a great idea! Why not put a little button next to the fields in the Standalone builder to show info about them? *Icon sizes* iPhone Hi-Res iPhone iOS Hi-Res iPhone iPhone 6 Plus iPad Hi-Res iPad iOS 7 iPad iOS7 Hi-Res iPad *Splash Screens* iPhone Hi-Res iPhone 4 Inch iPhone iPhone 6 iPhone 6 Plus Portrait iPhone 6 Plus Lscape Hi-Res iPad Portrait Hi-Res iPad Landscape Chipp Walters ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Anyone have any experience getting Google Spreadsheet API to work?
I'm putting together a new app and I want to use Google Spreadsheets as a quick and dirty datastore. Any have experience (success) updating rows of data on Google Spreadsheets? Chipp Walters ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: How to find the application path?
I dreamt the answer: put the address it works! Chipp Walters On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@altuit.com wrote: I believe a few years ago I found an undocumented rev function which returned the application path from a stack not part of the standalone. Does anyone remember the function call? (It's not filename, that only returns the path to the stack-- I'm looking for the app path. Thanks. Chipp Walters ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
How to find the application path?
I believe a few years ago I found an undocumented rev function which returned the application path from a stack not part of the standalone. Does anyone remember the function call? (It's not filename, that only returns the path to the stack-- I'm looking for the app path. Thanks. Chipp Walters ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Successful recipe for LC iPhone apps...
I guess I would start with a water cannon, or just smoke bombs? btw, there have been some mods made lately to altMobileResizer. Just press the update button. Jerry Daniels and I are using it to build some Android/iOS tablet/smartphone apps for our company. On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com wrote: Yeah, but that would be great plugin for Chip to build for crowd control… ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Cross-platform tools shootout
Interesting as Haxe (the overall winner, and winner in Development Speed) doesn't even have an IDE. It would be interesting to have a LC/Haxe shootout with a Haxe developer, who evidently must be expert in CSS, Javascript, HTML and probably a host of other inside frameworks, all without having any sort of native IDE in place. Chipp Walters On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Mark Wilcox m_p_wil...@yahoo.co.ukwrote: Hi, I've been digging through the data from VisionMobile's last developer survey (they're running another one at the moment) which a lot of happy LiveCoder's participated in. Every week I publish some new nugget of info. This week it's the results of the developer satisfaction questions on cross-platform tools. LiveCode came out third overall in case anyone is interested in seeing the numbers: http://build.developereconomics.com/cross-platform-tools-shootout/ This data shouldn't be taken too seriously but the weaknesses that prevented a win were Native UI look and feel which presumably will be fixed by the upcoming theming support and Access to native APIs - what is everyone missing? Desktop features missing? Lack of Android Externals? Or hasn't Monte been working hard enough. ;) Mark ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
iOS input field
Hey guys. I'm using the iOS input field and the following code... *if* gIsMobile *then* *-- SET UP NATIVE CONTROLS* *-- USERNAME FLD* *answer* the rect of fld fldUsername mobileControlCreate input,mUsername mobileControlSet mUsername,rect,the rect of fld fldUsername mobileControlSet mUsername,visible,true mobileControlSet mUsername,fontSize,22 end if But the native input field is NOT on top of the fld fldUsername (which is disabled) but is many pixels below. Anyone know why this is? This happens on my device, but displays properly in the simulator. Both devices are Retina devices. Thanks for any help. I'm using LC 5.5.4 Would it be better to use 6.0? Chipp Walters SVP, General Manager, IdeaWorks 512.577.9258 cell ch...@agilixideaworks.com skype: chippwalters http://youtu.be/PZuK5_u2eyI ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS input field
Figured it out. I was using iPhoneDeviceResolution true and it worked in previous builds. But now that there's a second parameter which deals with pixel density, I need to make sure and pass it: iPhoneDeviceResolution true,true Chipp Walters SVP, General Manager, IdeaWorks 512.577.9258 cell ch...@agilixideaworks.com skype: chippwalters http://youtu.be/PZuK5_u2eyI On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:26 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@agilixideaworks.comwrote: Hey guys. I'm using the iOS input field and the following code... *if* gIsMobile *then* *-- SET UP NATIVE CONTROLS* *-- USERNAME FLD* *answer* the rect of fld fldUsername mobileControlCreate input,mUsername mobileControlSet mUsername,rect,the rect of fld fldUsername mobileControlSet mUsername,visible,true mobileControlSet mUsername,fontSize,22 end if But the native input field is NOT on top of the fld fldUsername (which is disabled) but is many pixels below. Anyone know why this is? This happens on my device, but displays properly in the simulator. Both devices are Retina devices. Thanks for any help. I'm using LC 5.5.4 Would it be better to use 6.0? Chipp Walters SVP, General Manager, IdeaWorks 512.577.9258 cell ch...@agilixideaworks.com skype: chippwalters http://youtu.be/PZuK5_u2eyI ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS input field
Yes and thanks. The challenge is making all this work for all platforms and screensizes with one codebase WHILE taking advantage of Retina. So far, my mobile resizer library is performing well for this. Chipp Walters On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.netwrote: On Android it is on top. On iOS it is on the bottom(another x-platform got-yah Tom, add to your list). I set the appropriate field control colors when I'm not in development mode to hide the LC field control(thanks to Jacque for the dev function) except for the border in my case. Don't need to do it for Android but I wanted one code base so I do it for both Android and iOS. I also put the native input control's data into the LC field object and use the field control for examining/processing the inputted data. This makes testing in development easy. Like you I make the native control name the same as the LC field control. This makes handlers in either a library or a behavior generic. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Chipp Walters Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 10:27 PM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: iOS input field Hey guys. I'm using the iOS input field and the following code... *if* gIsMobile *then* *-- SET UP NATIVE CONTROLS* *-- USERNAME FLD* *answer* the rect of fld fldUsername mobileControlCreate input,mUsername mobileControlSet mUsername,rect,the rect of fld fldUsername mobileControlSet mUsername,visible,true mobileControlSet mUsername,fontSize,22 end if But the native input field is NOT on top of the fld fldUsername (which is disabled) but is many pixels below. Anyone know why this is? This happens on my device, but displays properly in the simulator. Both devices are Retina devices. Thanks for any help. I'm using LC 5.5.4 Would it be better to use 6.0? Chipp Walters SVP, General Manager, IdeaWorks 512.577.9258 cell ch...@agilixideaworks.com skype: chippwalters http://youtu.be/PZuK5_u2eyI ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Congratulations, community!
Super congratulations to Kevin and the whole RunRev team. They had the guts to go for it and made it! Once again Kevin proves to me why he's the best curator of our beloved LiveCode ever. I'm super excited for them...and us! Great work all! Chipp Walters On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: Marty Billingsley wrote: It occurs to me (a little late) that we should have gotten Stephen Fry to tweet about the Kickstarter project. He's all about technology, and a huge Apple fan... And LiveCode has him covered with both his favorite OSes, since he's also an Ubuntu user: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/**2012/08/stephen-fry-i-use-**ubuntuhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/stephen-fry-i-use-ubuntu -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/**FourthWorldSyshttp://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
convert (scrape) website to PDF
Anyone have any experience creating a PDF from content on a website? I'd like to convert: http://gls.agilix.com/js/docs/#!/Overview It has frames and links and seems quite difficult and was wondering if anyone has had experience in creating a stack which can custom scrape a website? TIA Chipp Walters SVP, General Manager, IdeaWorks 512.577.9258 cell ch...@agilixideaworks.com skype: chippwalters http://youtu.be/PZuK5_u2eyI ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: pirate version of my book...
Hi Colin, Sorry to hear that. It's one of the big problems with printing in PDF. Still, my guess is you lost only a few sales, as most who would pirate wouldn't pay for it anyway. There are some PDF fullfillment which can print a watermark on each page of the email address with which the PDF was purchased with. I'm not sure they are much better at stopping this sort of thing. Best of luck with your book! -C ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: pirate version of my book...
FWIW, the pirated version DID remind me to go to Packt Publishing and purchase your book! On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: Hi Colin, Sorry to hear that. It's one of the big problems with printing in PDF. Still, my guess is you lost only a few sales, as most who would pirate wouldn't pay for it anyway. There are some PDF fullfillment which can print a watermark on each page of the email address with which the PDF was purchased with. I'm not sure they are much better at stopping this sort of thing. Best of luck with your book! -C -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale
Ouch. A personal attack making fun of how a person looks, is low-- even for you, Bjoernke. I have had a serious health problem over the past few years which has resulted in my adding some un-needed weight-- of which I am sensitive about. My poke was just a funny point at the attempts to 'manage' the conversation on this specifically OT thread. Yours was a cruel personal attack. Please apologize. On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 6:24 AM, Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com wrote: Hi Chubby I'd say it's kinda sad to assume the only venue for everyone to talk about politics is a mailing list for one specific IDE. But then, maybe making snarky off topic remarks is yours and Bobbies only reprise from your otherwise dull and non-political life? Who knows why he does it. But I know why you do it, and i'm glad to serve as sparring partner, but not here. Cheesy greetings Bjoernke ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale
Oh, thank God for Bjorke and Pete. Congrats on your strong committment to civility and thanks to you both we don't have to face any uncomfortable comments. I'd have hated to actually have to actually ignore a comment which I didn't agree with. You guys both all in their place. Way to go! Both heros for sure! On Wednesday, August 15, 2012, Björnke von Gierke wrote: I personally would prefer that members of this list refrain from political jabs. -- Peter You're my hero! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com javascript:; Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale
Ugh. Didn't know that. And I expect it to go up with the baby boomers retiring soon... On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@gmail.comwrote: when Social Security, Medicare and unemployment benefits are included, nearly half of the nation lived in a household that received a government check, according to the analysis of third-quarter 2010 Census data done by the Mercatus Center at George Mason University, a libertarian-leaning think tank. That's more than 148 million Americans. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale
Great article. Thanks! On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@gmail.comwrote: Read and save this article about Steve Jobs. I could assure you that his management style will find many followers in the short place and near future. We should expect disastrous results in more than one case... http://www.wired.com/business/2012/07/ff_stevejobs/all/ Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/The-Story-of-Steve-Jobs-An-Inspiration-or-a-Cautionary-Tale-tp4653671.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What was that thing with Photoshop images?
Ok, Still, why do I care to give them unique names (or group them) when I'm just going to delete them milliseconds later in the same handler? On Saturday, August 11, 2012, Mark Wieder wrote: Chipp- Sorry - typing in a rush as I was heading out the door. I was trying to show alternate means of dealing with that situation without having to resort to the confusion of having multiple controls with identical names. What I meant to suggest was 1) instead of naming all the graphics temp, name them temp1, temp2, tempSomething... and then you can delete all of them by the same method without having to give them duplicate names. 2. grouping the temporary controls you are going to want to delete. Then you can delete them all just by deleting the group itself. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net javascript:; ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com javascript:; Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What was that thing with Photoshop images?
on clearTempImgs repeat with x = the number of images down to 1 if the short name of img x is temp then delete img x end repeat end clearTempImgs On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.netwrote: There are some convenient uses for same-named objects. I use them on purpose sometimes. ? OK - I'll bite. Name one. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What was that thing with Photoshop images?
FWIW, dpi doesn't really matter for display images. 72,75,300 dpi all display the same as long as they have the same number of pixels.. On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: I know of someone who was asked to prepare some Photoshop files at 32 bit, 165 dpi. I'm not sure where the 165 comes from, but on the bit front my friend was running into problems when using the 32 bits per channel mode in Photoshop. I explained that 32 bit really means 8 bits per channel for RGB, and 8 bit for transparency. That solved those problems. Also, programs such as LiveCode naturally want 72 dpi images. If you want the image to be bigger, you use more pixels. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] How long before..
Brillant. I concur. On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:40 AM, Peter Alcibiades palcibiades-fi...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: they have moved from thinking of the UI and the OS as a whole as being something which offers services to the users, to thinking of them as something which governs and controls the users. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] How long before..
I certainly would not consider 10% Mac marketshare as 'success'? If that is the case, then Windows would be considered an interface personally touched by the gods. And it can be argued iOS is 2 steps forward and 3 steps backward. The fact is, it is not an iOS focussed on productivity. With no file system, it's hard to believe it ever will be. Nope. Marketing should not be the sole measure of a successful interface design. On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:04 AM, Ken Corey k...@kencorey.com wrote: If the HIG are not scientifically provable usability, but simply subjective statements, then how can we measure usability? You could argue that financial success is the greatest judge of usability. After all, 312 million iOS purchasers can't be wrong, can they? (march 2012, http://statspotting.com/2012/** 03/in-total-how-many-ios-**devices-are-out-there/http://statspotting.com/2012/03/in-total-how-many-ios-devices-are-out-there/ ) If not financials, and not the number of users, then by what metric does one measure usability (note the lack of quotes here...I mean real usability)? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] How long before..
Yes Richmond, you are correct. The AI ship seemed to sail quite some time ago. One of the top AI scientists, Doug Lenat, has been working on creating an AI entity, Cyc (www.cyc.com) and wrote an interesting article: The Voice of the Turtle: Whatever Happened to AI? which is an interesting read: http://www.aaai.org/ojs/index.php/aimagazine/article/download/2106/1996 In his article he gives 12 reasons why AI has struggled so. Doug lives here in Austin and I've had a chance to visit with him on occasion. Very interesting fellow. Many have abandoned AI (except for gamers) in favor of more database-centric analysis tools which can more readily demonstrate trends and answer what/if types of questions. I'm not holding my breath for an AI HAL and home cleaning robots. I suspect we're still quite some time away. On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote: On 08/01/2012 12:44 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: Probably, yes ;-) Le 1 août 2012 à 01:35, -=JB a écrit : Trial and error are a part of developing. AI will be here soon and you will ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] How long before..
Yes, in theory I also like the idea of just talking to my computer and have it understand what I say and just do it. The problem is, when things don't work 100% right, people tend to get upset. It's actually one of the reasons iPads don't do handwriting recognition. Apple tried it with Newton and found out people were more frustrated by it and it actually created more of a barrier to use. And, a reason why Siri, and now Dictation, are suspect. When it works only part of the time, it's hard to think it reliable enough to incorporate directly into workflow. Now, take DropBox for instance. What a smart product. If you save all your stacks to a DropBox folder, it will archive each and every version for you in the cloud. If you need to roll it back, you can do so from their website. Very easy. Apple should not be playing guinea pig with it's customers. Businesses rarely put up with such shenanigans. Even MS had to back pedal on Ribbon for quite some time-- and I concur with Thomas with regard to it's ultimate advantages over previous versions. Sometimes improvement for improvements sake isn't the right answer. Too often I've heard the young shout if the music is too loud, you're too old! Sometimes the music really is too loud. On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:54 AM, Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com wrote: In theory, I like the idea of no save as, and no save-related menu items at all, no user interaction to save. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] How long before..
Björnke, thanks for the link! I predicted here in this forum a couple years back this would happen on the Mac. Apple would end up being the Gatekeeper of all the allowed software on anyone's computer. And, soon, just like it happened with Windows Vista, folks will just get used to turning Gatekeeper OFF (or option-clicking to launch apps) until it just becomes second nature-- sort of like command-Z for UNDO. How ironic does Ridley Scott's 1984 commercial seem today? More than anyone, Apple has mutated itself into Big Brother. On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com wrote: This is the way Apple tries to make the OS virus-proof. It's also tying into a marketing idea, to bring every App under their app store umbrella, and a way to control every applications purpose and function. Ethical, and Big Brother considerations aside, for now, there's a setting in the preferences to reduce this security and control feature: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/07/os-x-10-8/15/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] How long before..
Hi Tom, Yes. It pretty much had web / doc views and a hierarchy of menu screens to navigate them. Interesting. Thanks for sharing. On Wednesday, August 1, 2012, Thomas McGrath III wrote: [OT] from the [OT]:: Chipp, did the app 'just' have web views and or doc pages with like a splash screen? The reason I ask is we had to put a simple game into some of our apps to get past the 'this could have been done in HTML5' objection and I was wondering if this was a similar case for you. -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile
Does anyone know all the possible combinations of all screen sizes for Android? I know there are only 8 iOS screen sizes, but I guess there may be quite a few variants for Android. More than I suspect would allow for separate images per layout. -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: The Screen Density Conundrum
I vote for scale on launch. Just too much work building multiple interfaces for each screensize. The tool should allow for setting the control size and position based on density and/or pixel resolution. -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile
My thoughts as well. On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:39 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: It's unrealistic to design any kind of library that needs to rely on fixed resolutions or dimensions. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[OT] How long before..
I was talking with Chris about this base on: 1) Mountain Lion now tries to do automatic tasks, like download stuff when the lid is closed and you're on battery power, thus killing your battery without you knowing. And now with Gatekeeper complaining about anything you try and install-- and wt–, iCloud is just amazingly bad. Docs in iCloud now automatically 'sync' but if you open a Mac doc created on on an iPad, it will lose formatting, then SYNC, and kill all the formatting from the original-- and amazingly there's no cloud backup (like DropBox does). And nope, there's still no Save As.. because Apple believes they know better than us when to invoke that command. All in all-- stuff to be wary of. 2) Win 8 is having similar huge issues. They're trying to 'out think' the users creating all sorts of problems. Reviews for Windows 8 seems to be more bad than good. 3) We're starting to 'remember' the 'last great version' of programs like Photoshop, etc.. So, I'm wondering... how long before we quit upgrading everything and start sticking to a single legacy OS and/or programs? For instance, even though I own the latest version of Flash, I still enjoy using Flash 5 for diagramming, wireframing and creating 'blueprint roadmaps.' At what point do the OS'es get so much in the users way that they're no longer good for us legacy power users? Just wondering... not predicting.. yet. -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] How long before..
Thanks Thomas and everyone for your thoughts on this subject. Very interesting to read! I agree with much which has been said. I also agree with the old chestnut, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. For over 20 years, Save As was good enough for all– and now it's not. I don't agree about whole changes in paradigms without at least giving workarounds. And FWIW, I hated ribbon and quit all MS Office in favor of Google Docs as soon as I saw it. I still can't find my way around the damn thing. In fact I also hate IE because-- well that's a whole other thread! Still. Apple bites. For instance, today I tried updating Balsamiq (GREAT wireframe program) and as I was trying to run it I received a dialog from Apple stating it was not allowed. So, I've been using this program for years, and I update it and now it's not allowed? No message about how to allow it, or a button Go Ahead anyway. Just the fact it's not allowed. After searching HELP, I found out I need to option-click on the program (intuitive? good UIX?) and ONLY THEN could it run. Not sure how much *better* that is... And exactly how intuitive is it to option-Save to Save As? (Thanks Jacque!) Wow-- I can see that whole Save As thing full of opportunity for mistakes. What if I want to Save As, but then press command instead of option when selecting the menu? OOPS, just saved over what it was I was trying to Save-- or did I? Aren't we automatically saving anyway? I don't know. And what if I just open an iCloud doc on my iPad, will it auto-save, thus killing any non-compatible doc formatting?-- which is the exact problem when UIX folks think they want the computer to read you mind and act for you. And iCloud. Just read this by the famous Apple columnist and all around good guy Andy Ihnatko: http://bit.ly/PkVqDx I suspect the same folks who use DropBox will find iCloud totally unacceptable. Heck, it doesn't backup docs, it doesn't share docs. You can't even download your docs from iCloud! wtf? *Finally, IMO, the ultimate in Apple arrogance and their belief they 'know' what is right for all of us.* A month ago, a government agency asked me to design an app, for both Android and iOS, for a national symposium on suicide prevention. Their board of directors had gotten together and decided they wanted to create portable smartphone apps for all the proceedings, including white papers, presentations, bios, helpful links and explanations of the organizations which are involved. They asked me to create it, which I agreed to. I finished in one week, just enough time to allow Apple to approve it and get it into the App Store. It was created with different links to content as well as descriptions of various talks, people attending, groups and other interesting information. It was also built to be a resource long after the symposium is over. As you can imagine where this is going... Apple didn't approve it citing the fact it didn't meet their guidelines on content and it could all be done in HTML5. I was stunned. Apple allows fart apps, a digital clock with just a number on it (literally, put the time into fld 1 every second), a tool to calculate pi to the Nth, a tool to ONLY PING an IPaddress, but not this app-- something which potentially could save people's lives. In an ultimate act of arrogance, Apple believes their idea of what an app should be trumps the wishes of a group of highly intelligent people who actually budgeted money to have this app built for a very serious symposium on a subject important as suicide prevention. Sheesh. And yes, the Android App did ship just fine. So, sometimes believing in Apple's ability to provide best group-think for the rest of us is just pure SHIT. Of course, that's only my slightly pissed opinion.. :-D ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile
Yes. That was the reason I cose to use the same handler names as Ken's more robust desktop layout lib. On Saturday, July 28, 2012, Thomas McGrath III wrote: I agree and would go as far as saying that these must remain separate libraries.They should play well together. -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net javascript:; -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Samsung highlights the Galaxy Note’s Wacom digitizer
Richmond CONTEXT... FWIW, that is an enormous screen, by smartphone standards, which is the context of the article. Can you name a smartphone with a larger screen or higher resolution? Some may say the Sun is enormous, but in the context of the entire universe it's not. On Saturday, July 28, 2012, Richmond wrote: http://androidcommunity.com/**samsung-highlights-the-galaxy-** notes-wacom-digitizer-**20111027/http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-highlights-the-galaxy-notes-wacom-digitizer-20111027/ there are one or two things about this article which seem a bit odd: 1. enormous 5.3-inch, 1280 x 800 Super AMOLED screen obviously somebody doesn't know what enormous means, I am writing this with a computer connected a Proview 17 by something cheap-n-cheerful monitor; it is reasonably big, certainly -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile
First off, I would like to say there are a few things which are paramount for me in any resizer library I would use. Please know these are only my observations and requirements. 1. Needs to be unlocked and editable my me. If not, then I won't even look at it. We all know the problems with MobGUI and the subsequent lack of support and stranded users. Simple fact is I just can't provide my clients with code I can't maintain. 2. It needs to be as simple and easy to maintain as possible. And in keeping with the simplicity theme, it needs to execute as fast as possible in the least amount of readable code. I'm not a fan of frontscripts and find they can get in the way in all sorts of ways, so I'd prefer staying with libraries and passing messages. 3. It should be easy to implement and without much fanfare. Most of my mobile projects need to be completed in weeks, not months, so trying to work with a complex framework just doesn't fit my projects. I certainly understand others have different timescales and may be more interested in more elaborate frameworks. 4. It needs to fit within my workflow. I use a Harness app for both Android and iOS phones and tablets which acts as a player for stacks, which are then downloaded via a Dropbox URL. So, it's more difficult to add lots of other files, like interface images in the bundle. I would rather bring files down from the Internet, or SpitOut them on the first run. 5. I think I can make a case that it's pretty much impossible in LC at this stage to identify dpi vs resolution needs if you're trying to go cross platform-- Android-iOS. Furthermore, as a designer, I can only imagine the possible nightmare involved in not having the exact right resolution images for different Android Layouts. I would suspect the carefully set margins and padding of one's design would get fairly screwed up. LC just doesn't work well with complex architectures and frameworks. Geometry Manager? Animation Manager? Ring any bells? 6. Lastly, if you tend to like to create skeuomorphic interface designs, as I do, then you pretty much know you have to work all your graphics out in Photoshop. So, for the most part there's no needing to worry about scalable *everything* in LC, as the images themselves scale quite well. So having a heavyweight library which tries to match each and every control attribute with the proper scaling algorithms, seems a bit overkill for me. Keeping things simpler, and lighter-- is better. For me. -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] EPS Import V05C
Thanks! I really appreciate the work you've done with this library over the years. On Wednesday, July 25, 2012, Alejandro Tejada wrote: Hi All, Download this new version of EPS Import V05C: http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/alejandro/stacks/Eps_Import_V05C.zip -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile
Good points. Years ago I created altLayouLib and have used it for work in multiple OS environments. With it you could set the controls layout behavior based upon OS. It read the OS and resized/moved controls based upon MacOS, Win32 or Other. As far as responsive design goes, it perhaps this approach a proper way to go. So, for instance one could set different stack resolutions and layout the controls for each based upon a specific resolution-- and if no resolution matched, then it defaults to the closest resolution smaller than the one being used. Still, seems like a lot of work. I still want to try Tom's approach of different square cards(or stacks) for both portrait and landscape. I really see potential in it and I think it *should* work fine with this latest altMobileResizer library. The square sizing should also handle most cases where you want the width of a control to change but not the height. BTW, just updated it to fix a niggling bug and added a button to it to check for all images which don't have resizeQuality set to Good. Just press the update button to get the latest version. You should reinstall the library and the OpenStack handlers on any existing projects. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile
Helps if I proofread before posting.. -- As far as responsive design goes, perhaps a custom layouts per card size approach a proper way to go. -- The square card size should also handle most cases where you want the width of a control to change but not the height. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: Good points. Years ago I created altLayouLib and have used it for work in multiple OS environments. With it you could set the controls layout behavior based upon OS. It read the OS and resized/moved controls based upon MacOS, Win32 or Other. As far as responsive design goes, it perhaps this approach a proper way to go. So, for instance one could set different stack resolutions and layout the controls for each based upon a specific resolution-- and if no resolution matched, then it defaults to the closest resolution smaller than the one being used. Still, seems like a lot of work. I still want to try Tom's approach of different square cards(or stacks) for both portrait and landscape. I really see potential in it and I think it *should* work fine with this latest altMobileResizer library. The square sizing should also handle most cases where you want the width of a control to change but not the height. BTW, just updated it to fix a niggling bug and added a button to it to check for all images which don't have resizeQuality set to Good. Just press the update button to get the latest version. You should reinstall the library and the OpenStack handlers on any existing projects. -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile
How does LC determine density? On Wednesday, July 25, 2012, Monte Goulding wrote: Ok, making this up as i go. We might as well design a system from the start that can handle all 4 android screen densities and used a couple of them as synonyms for the iOS densities. Even though the android densities are ranges I think its reasonable to treat them as absolutes as long as your layout handles that. So we now have densities of .75, 1, 1.5 and 2. With 1 and 2 being used on iOS and at the moment .75 would would only be part of the design for future proofing. Now we can include into the framework an image loader for density just like native apps use. A plugin could easily import a x2 image and pump out high quality images at each density into specific folders. Next thing is we need a mode to use while developing to allow us to work at whatever density we require. That shouldn't be too complicated. Anyone else what to throw out some ideas? Cheers -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! On 26/07/2012, at 6:51 AM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.comjavascript:; wrote: At the moment that is hdpi on mobile with a density of around 1.5 and mdpi (which can be treated the same as non retina iOS) on larger screens so this gives us 3 densities to deal with. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com javascript:; Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Storing data on iOS
Hi Jacque, I'm storing everything in documents-- in fact I have my own cache folder in there as well. Because of my workflow, constantly updating via DropBox, I tend not to 'include' files outside a single stack, and I use the stack to SpitOut on OpenStack different resources, such as template document stacks and audio files. On one project I put file URLs and their respective filesizes in a zgoogle Spreadsheet. On startup, if there's an Internet connection, I download the CSV spreadsheet and check it against the files and download any missing or non- complete versions. So far it has worked perfectly. -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: First stack tutorial
Type in msg: create new stack; create fld; put hello world into it; save the topstack :-p (don't you just hate a smart ass) -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Any suggestions?
Peter and Charles, FWIW, I always use: delete last char of theList instead of put line 1 to -1 of theList into theList -- no trailing return It works with item lists, too and doesn't throw an error if theList is On Sunday, July 22, 2012, Peter M. Brigham wrote: repeat with n = 1 to nbr if not the hilite of button n of me then next repeat -- the above line could go first put the short name of button n of me into tName put counter . tName cr after theList -- combine the two repeat loops add 1 to counter end repeat put line 1 to -1 of theList into theList -- no trailing return -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile
FWIW, If tmControls had a settable altHeight and an altWidth, then they should be able to work. Or if one could set their height and width from a script, the resizer library would see them as just another control. Take a peek at the lib code to see how his is done. On Sunday, July 22, 2012, Roger Eller wrote: I tried a simple test, and they don't exactly play well together. tmControls are grouped objects with their own control scripts, and a nice gui editor for altering their appearance. If I select each component of the group separately, I can set their resize attributes with altResizer, but if I miss even one piece of a grouped control, it is left behind when the stack size changes. I guess the same is true of manually built groups. ~Roger On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: I don't know about tmControls. Do they respond to resizeStack and can hoe set their rect and loc? On Saturday, July 21, 2012, Roger Eller wrote: Awesome! Will it work with tmControl too? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com javascript:; Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: For crying out loud: messages on create card.
Try it in a standalone. Don't forget neither SuperCard's nor HC's IDE was written using their language. There's overhead in the IDE which doesn't exist in standalones. Use multiple break points and 'run' from one to the next (instead of step in/over) if you're having problems with the debugger. It helps... On Sunday, July 22, 2012, Dr. Hawkins wrote: Ivelong figured ther was a bottleneck, especially after learning about locking messages while deleting cards. But for crying out loud . . . Single stepping,and getting frustrated with the debugger. -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile
I've seemed to lost the InterfaceDesigner link after the new overhaul of our sites. You can PayPal sa...@altuit.com $15 and I'll send it to you. On Sunday, July 22, 2012, RevList wrote: Saturday, July 21, 2012 at 11:45 PM -0700 wrote: Hi Chipp, Cool. Way to pre-order ? Will your Interface Designer framework include a way to apply rules to multiple controls at once ? Kind regards, Pierre How can one get get/purchase Interface Designer. That looks fantastic too. ** Stewart Lynch CreaTECH Solutions There are only 10 kinds of people. Those who understand binary and those who don't. ** ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com javascript:; Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile
Hey all, As you know, Ken and I have been working on some interesting libs for managing resizing of stacks. I'm particularly focussed on RevMobile and have created a toolset which allows developers to easily create resolution independent interfaces-- which smartly resize to take advantage of any mobile device, Android or iOS (Retina included). Here's a preview. You may see some small resizing errors in the preview-- they've been fixed. I hope to launch this sooner than later for you all to use. Contact me offlist if you need it sooner. http://youtu.be/vY6r46O0cVA Be sure to holler if you see anything which doesn't seem correct. :-) -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RevMobile: Native controls
Hi Monte, Landscape should work just fine-- it's the rotation which can possibly cause problems. One way to do this is with 2 stacks. Another way to do it is with a large square stack and different cards. The library has the ability to render objects on all cards at startup, or using a preOpenCard handler-- this way if you have a lot of cards and/or controls on cards, you can defer the scaling to as needed. I'll post the beta version of the plugin and framework today and you can try it out. On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: Hi chipp Thanks for the video. This looks like a really helpful tool and I'm keen to get my hands on it. Do you have any ideas for handling landscape and tablet views? For tablets I think in most cases you would want a different stack so using a main stack with most of the code and a handheld and tablet substack would work. For landscape we need to be able to reposition the same controls, hide some, show some etc. So it's more like a profile. In some cases just resizing will work. But it would be nice to have a when in landscape move here or hide/show or something option. Also screen density on android is a headache because a high density phone could be higher res than a low density tablet. What are your thoughts on dealing with that? Cheers -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! On 21/07/2012, at 9:56 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: Monte, I agree with you. We all know by now that Apple discourages using faux Apple-like controls UNLESS they are pixel perfect and strictly follow the Apple UI guidelines. But, they readily accept different interfaces as long as they are well done. Plus, being able to code one GUI and have it run on all favors of iOS and Android seems to be a wonderful approach. Check out my latest resizing library (using part of Ken's stsResizeLib). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY6r46O0cVA -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile
FYI, for those interested... I don't lock scripts and anyone can use this in their commercial projects free of charge. IOW, this is a professional library which you can edit and use however you like (just don't try and sell it please!) On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: Sorry the double post-- I originally thought the OTHER post was my originating one. I've added some auto-install procedures to the plugin and it's now available for testing at: http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/altMobileResizer.rev Put it in your plugins folder or your altPlugs folder. Don't forget there's an update button on it! From the very prelim docs: - altMobileResizer plugin (c)2012 Chipp Walters Thanks to portions by Ken Ray! This plugin creates a resizing framework for mobile devices so devlopers only have to create a single layout and it will smartly resize all controls on each card when the app first launches on a mobile device. Selecting the Stack tab, the plugin installs a library and OpenStack handler on the first card of the app stack. You next add objects and controls (like the altButton DropTool) and then you can assign resizing properties to them using the Control tab controls. Because the library is installed, it's important you pass all resizeStack messages and preOpenCard messages. When first installing the library stack, two properties are set for the library stack: altStacksAffected - This is a list of the names of the stacks for which the library will run on. altResizeAllCardsAtOnce - This is a boolean (defaults to true) which tells the library to resize all controls on all cards at startup. If not true, then it will resize all controls on a preOpenCard handler which may speed startup if you have a lot of cards in your stack. Also, remember to set the resizeQuality to GOOD (not NORMAL or BEST) for all images-- and reduce the images by 50% in width and height for the smaller min size. This way when going to the 2X Retina size they will be at full resolution. You can only edit the position and resize settings for objects when the stack is in minWidth mode. If you change the position or rect of a control, then you'll need to be sure and press the refresh position button to store the new settings. -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RevMobile: Native controls
FYI, New 5 min video explaining how to use the plugin: http://youtu.be/TLWD5KsstFc ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RevMobile: Native controls
Andre, I suppose if you wanted to develop both for phone and tablet, you could use 2 different stacks, each using the same altMobileResizer framework and then branch to them by editing the openStack handler on cd 1 of the main stack. There is one good case for developing a single application that runs on both the iPhone and the iPad. Universal apps rank higher on the search results from the iTunes App Store. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile
I don't know about tmControls. Do they respond to resizeStack and can hoe set their rect and loc? On Saturday, July 21, 2012, Roger Eller wrote: Awesome! Will it work with tmControl too? -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RevMobile: Native controls
Jacque, This framework works pretty much like you first described. I suspect you will find it worthwhile for your projects. -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: export snapshot on iOS results in black image file
Tom, I seem to remember reading export snapshot only works on objects for mobile. So try exporting the image, or group the image and eport the group. That's how I did it onAndroid. On Sunday, July 15, 2012, Scott Rossi wrote: Do you have any black regions displayed on your screen? Because I'm pretty sure that, with your current script, you're capturing global screen coordinates, even though you've specified an object's rect. You either need to use the snapshot form that references a specific object, or convert your rect to local (stack) coordinates. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design Recently, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Has anyone run into an issue where exporting a snapshot on iOS results in a black image file? Here is the very simple code I am using: put specialFolderPath(documents) into tFolder put the rect of image image into tRect export snapshot from rect tRect to file (tFolder/test.jpg) as JPEG With document sharing on I get a black image test.jpg in iTunes and also if I try to email it etc. it is still just a black image. Thanks -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net javascript:; ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com javascript:; Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com javascript:; Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Displaying the Inspector and Script Editor by script
Script editor is easy-- edit script of object On Sunday, July 15, 2012, Peter Haworth wrote: Hoping there's someone out there who has figured out how to programmatically display the Inspector palette and Script Editor window for a give object and is willing to share that info. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com javascript:; Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: export snapshot on iOS results in black image file
Here's what worked for me on Android: set the jpegQuality to 100 put specialFolderPath(documents) /temp.jpg into tPath export snapshot from group tempGrp to file tPath as JPEG On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.comwrote: Nope, no black regions and I did try the objet version as well as a bunch of other varieties I also tried (0,0,200,200) as well. No luck. -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net On Jul 15, 2012, at 10:35 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Do you have any black regions displayed on your screen? Because I'm pretty sure that, with your current script, you're capturing global screen coordinates, even though you've specified an object's rect. You either need to use the snapshot form that references a specific object, or convert your rect to local (stack) coordinates. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design Recently, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Has anyone run into an issue where exporting a snapshot on iOS results in a black image file? Here is the very simple code I am using: put specialFolderPath(documents) into tFolder put the rect of image image into tRect export snapshot from rect tRect to file (tFolder/test.jpg) as JPEG With document sharing on I get a black image test.jpg in iTunes and also if I try to email it etc. it is still just a black image. Thanks -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Lessons learned on my Mobile Journey
Hi Roger, I'm just using the URL Google provides for each sheet which is shown when you Publish a sheet. You can select CSV as the 'type' and which sheet you want the URL for-- and Google generates the URL. Then you just get the URL: get URL http://googlespreadheets.com/yada/yada; and it's returned as CSV. I'm not POSTING data to the sheet, just reading from it. Yep, I need to get the resize LIB completed-- will be working on it soon. Tonight I finished rebuilding altButton so it now uses images instead of btn icons-- so now EVERYTHING scales-- Hurray! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: validating per use licensing
So which is it? Esquire or Doctor or Lawyer? Man, that's a lot of hats. On Friday, July 13, 2012, Dr. Hawkins wrote: snip The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Lessons learned on my Mobile Journey
We're working on it right now. I've updated altButton so that now it uses images which will scale with the button-- and it's all integrated nicely with the inspector and libraries. Ken's polishing things tomorrow. I hope we have a DropTool which raps this up nicely! BTW, it's been tested now on multiple iPhones and Android hardware and works like a charm. Just a few mouse clicks on the inspector and the interface just 'knows' how to scale itself-- no coding required. :-) On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 2:19 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: On 7/13/12 11:53 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: I've talked with Ken and we think it may be a good idea to release this as a free library and plugin Please yes. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Lessons learned on my Mobile Journey
Hey all, So, I've been immersed in mobile dev for about a month now. Just finished my 4th product in 3 weeks. Including an Android Sesame Street app which plays Flash, m4v video, embedded browser-- the works. Comes with 2 weeks of teaching content and uses a sweet caching system to download the data so the app can run un-tethered to the Internet. And I just shipped off to the iOS AppStore and neat little portable CMS Symposium app which retrieves all it's updates from Google Spreadsheets-- which is great as now I can let my customers edit their content live. This app was built for iPhone (both Retina and reg), and all Androids, including tablets (though a bit LARGE type for them!) I've learned a ton and thought I'd share some of this for posterities sake. As those of you who saw me at RunRevLive, you'll know I just about asked *everyone* how they handle multiple resolutions for mobile app development. I talked at length with *Tom, Jacque, Andre, Ken, Mark Waddingham, Scott Rossi, and many others* about this subject. Here are a few of the highlights I learned. - *Jacque told me right off the bat to consider scaling everything.* My early image scaling tests told me that resizeQuality=BEST was way too slow and =NORMAL was too ugly. *But, it turns out =GOOD works pretty darn good!* Generate the graphic at Retina resolution and it should look good on all iPhones and Androids no matter what the scaling. BTW, both Mark W and Scott R also mentioned the same trick. - Tom mentioned *having Square cards and keeping different layouts on each card for Portrait vs Landscape*. I really like this idea and think it's one way to create a 'responsive-like' approach to layout management. Thanks Tom! - *I created a test harness* which auto scaled to the screen size. I then provisioned it ad hoc on iOS and apk on Android and installed it on both devices. With this took, I could create buttons to launch stacks I was working on which were loaded on the Internet. A simple go stack URL and the stack was there running on my device to debug-- no provisioning necessary. I then created file management stacks which could look into the sandbox and move, delete or download files there, along with test debug stacks, and my production stack. The beauty of it all is I just kept my local work folder inside DropBox's PUBLIC folder and every save was uploaded to the Internet automatically in a matter of seconds. Then off to my mobile harness app, *a press of the Reload and Run button- and voila-- testing the app directly*. - The *easiest and best auto-update mechanism for mobile apps is to have a splashscreen app which copies (or SPITOUT) the actual app in a sandboxed directory*. No check for updates or anything-- it just checks to see if the stack is there and if not decompresses and decodes the custom prop to create it. Then, THAT stack can check for updates to itself, and download them if needed. This can all be quite complex, and should only be done with Android as Apple's TOS doesn't allow for it (AFAIK). - Did you know *Google Spreadsheets are a great way to allow your customers to manage their content?* I wrote a small bit of Javascript which increments the version number on a hidden sheet when any cell is modified. And Gsheets provides a very easy way to *grab this data via a URL as CSV for each sheet independently!* Richard Gaskin (and Alex Tweedly) has a nice CSV library on his site which parses this stuff great. http://www.fourthworld.com/embassy/articles/csv-must-die.html Here's an example sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AiQYsJmyjjz8dE5BekpOYUF3RnlxWWV2dEZTY291Z0Eoutput=html - Trevor gave a GREAT talk at RevLive on *grabbing data off the web and caching it locally*. If you didn't see it, I'd suggest trying to get a look. It's for sure the way mobile apps need to work. All the apps I created store caches of the data and update only when needed so that they work when not connected. - My *biggest issue in mobile development was how to do all the resizing of ALL the objects*. I've built Layout Manager tools before in Rev but knew they wouldn't work too well. I contacted Ken Ray and he sent me a not yet ready for prime time resizeStack library. After studying it, I realized it could do a ton of cool stuff, but was missing a couple parts. In particular, it needed a way to automatically resize images proportionally. I also needed a way to proportionally resize text in objects as well. I added some handlers to his library, then went about building my own library on top of it along with an altPlugin Inspector so that I now could easily apply properties to objects, which would be controlled by the libraries. A quick modification to my altButton DropTool and now I can resize it as well as all the other rev objects with a simple click
Any Textile Markup to Rev HTML converter functions out there?
Subject says it all. I want my customers to use textile to do some basic markup and need to convert to HTML. Thought I'd ask before embarking on the journey... -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Somewhat OT: Windows Phone 8
Ugh. Here we go again. First MS declares 'there is no market for tablets' and disbands the development team, then kills the skunkworks Courier tablet saying tablets will never survive. Of course Steve Jobs convinces the world we all NEED tablets, and in typical Microsoft copy copy copy mode they introduce a lame product too expensive, too late, and mark my word, this thing is stillborn on introduction. What, the didn't even let the press touch them? And no pricing? Shades of when MS bought Danger for $500 million only to take years and reportedly over a billion dollars to redesign the two facebook friendly phones they called Kin. The sales after the first weekend launch was in the low hundreds. They killed the project shortly thereafter. Even worse than the Zune fiasco. Who's running this show? Oh yeah, Balmer. MS is dead until they get rid of that guy. Please RR, don't spend any time trying to compile for that thing! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Somewhat OT: Windows Phone 8
Curious, what are the neat points? And certainly even if Palm gave RR a billion dollars (or a bit less), we would all benefit! On Wednesday, June 20, 2012, Colin Holgate wrote: All of your points aside, there are a couple of neat things about the Microsoft tablet. Also, if they said to RunRev here's a billion dollars, can you publish for Windows 8?, we would all benefit. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com javascript:; Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Somewhat OT: Windows Phone 8
Still, I doubt it runs LC out of the box. Remember, LC never did work properly on Win Tablet that I'm aware. Just too many different types of controls. On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Windows RT which looks like Windows Phone 8 and runs the same apps and the other runs on x86 probably ivy bridge and runs Window 8 real windows and can run anything any windows machine can run.. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Somewhat OT: Windows Phone 8
I never was too crazy on those new magnetic iPad covers. I like mine more: http://www.speckproducts.com/tablet-ipad-cases/magfolio-for-ipad2.html And, I don't know if a flex keyboard will work, but this one seems to, so perhaps MS's will: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/740785012/touchfire-the-screen-top-keyboard-for-ipad On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: I have an iPad cover, and it sort of can act like a stand, but it's not so strong, especially after a few months. The Microsoft tablet has a cover that doubles as a keyboard, and it has a separate flat to prop up the screen. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Android/mobGUI/screen sizes
Yep, Richard, I agree. After asking the mobGUI author to please share the source code with those of us who have purchased his libraries, and receiving a resounding, No!, I decided to roll many of my own mobile controls, and created dropTools for some of them. After talking with Jacque, it's clear there are too many screensizes to code for, so we need to create projects which dynamically resize based upon screensize. That's one of the reasons I chose to build my tools with the ability to set the sizes programmatically with no loss of quality. One of the better ones is a configurable button with icon which can be set programatically, so for instance if one was trying to make a series of tile buttons, one for each filename and assign a different icon and color and highlight based on file type, it would be possible. Works with both mobile and desktop. More info here: http://blog.chipp.com/category/livecode/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Displaying Video in a Browser on Android
Hey guys, Anyone tell me if this is possible: I want to display a small video in a LC browser object on Android so that when clicked on, the video begins playing. Then I'd like to click the fullscreen button on the video (like YouTube) has and see the video fullscreen. And, if I rotate the Android, does the video auto rotate or does that need to be scriptable? Thanks for any insights on this. -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Android Emulator upside down
When I run my LC stack on the Android emulator, it's upside down. Any thing I can do about this other than create my stack upside down ;-) -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Android Emulator upside down
Thanks Jacque. Yours didn't work but the script editor seemed to like: mobilSetAllowedOrientations portrait,portrait upside down,landscape left,landscape right Even though I've made the changes, it didn't change the emulator.. :-( On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:38 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: It also might be that the simulator is opening upside down. I told you that simulator is EVIL! -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
can someone please try this test...
in the msg box, copy and paste the line below: put URL https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/tq?tqx=out:csvkey=0AiQYsJmyjjz8dEJIT2VyamhRWWVEM3U0MGR1Y21nUUE Please tell me if it returns anything. Thanks. -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Interesting breach of iOS terms or something for LC users?
There's this new mobile app development platform called AppGyver: http://appgyver-preview and they have a 'player' app for developers which has already passed review and is in the AppStore: AppGyver Preview App Anyone can download this app to their iPhone and then enter in a name and a password and download an app a developer built. I wonder if LC should consider such a 'LiveCode Preview App' ?? -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Interesting breach of iOS terms or something for LC users?
I'm not sure I agree. AppGyver (AG) has many of the same api hooks to iOS as LC. So, in theory, one could just as easily abuse those privileges in an AG player as a LC player. For instance, say you write an AG file (html/jscript) to access the native features of iOS like the contacts list, and copy them all and transport them somewhere over the Internet. That does something significantly *different* than what Safari can do. And, in my mind, it represents just as much a security risk as what you can do with LC. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 4:38 AM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Hi, Just like PhoneGap, AppGyver is basically a locally functioning website and does nothing that Safari can't do. If Apple has already approved the engine, then Apple might tolerate the preview app. This doesn't pave the way for RunRev to do something similar. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ButtonGadget2
Hey guys, We're actually in the middle of removing/replacing all Altuit websites with WordPress versions. That's why many links aren't working right now. Thanks for you patience. -Chipp On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 1:36 AM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Mark- Thursday, February 23, 2012, 8:50:07 PM, you wrote: Mark, very cool application. The videos really show it off well. BTW, is it coded in LC? It was indeed. Chipp's a talented guy. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: How *not* to run a marketing campaign
Too good! Thanks for sharing... Turns out the idiot is now out a job. Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc On Dec 27, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Quite the read: http://penny-arcade.com/resources/just-wow1.html -- Mark Wieder ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iPad screenrecording: how?
Here's a decent way of getting diffuse lighting, though you can't tap. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4pF1lW2-7w There are other iPhone copy stands with built in diffusers as well. http://obamapacman.com/2011/12/iphone-copy-stand-modahaus-steady-stand/ On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Mark Powell mark_pow...@symantec.comwrote: The problem with any of these overhead solutions is that it is really hard to get the lighting right. In fact it is darn near impossible. Todd Certainly very difficult but not impossible. See the 'Touching the iPad' module here http://www.lynda.com/iPad-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/68383-2.html In my book, Lynda.com is the standard for setting up online training environments. How they capture iPad demos with full practical gestures is flawless to the point of myth. Mark ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iPad screenrecording: how?
You could try this http://www.ponoko.com/design-your-own/products/scandock-2703 -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Image Cropping Tool for Livecode
I think the issue isn't really whether or not someone will accidently use a feature, but more along the lines of having the engine assume behaviors we don't know of, or can't override in some way or another. My friend and fellow LC'er, Jerry Daniels, is now working in RB. He needs to as it has an embedded browser object which 'just works.' Discussions with him over the experience is most interesting. RB forces certain ways of working-- and doesn't 'allow' one to roll their own controls without significant outside development-- something which LC has been able to do for years. I appreciate the basic nature of the engine and don't have a problem building tools to allow one to crop or resize images rather than have it embedded. As Jan and Ken do, I typically write my own using browse mode-- a bit more difficult, but there you have complete control. Sivakatirswami, I'll take a peek and see what crop code I may have lying around. Most of it is embedded in much larger image editing types of handlers. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] A FLASH in the pan? Part 2
On Monday, November 21, 2011, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: I think both of you have trivialized and underestimated the seriousness of what's happening now. Easy to be smug when you are ok. Hmmm. Do you think it smug to call other folks smug just because you don't agree with them? Fact is, there are two sides to this story, with both sides having good points. Sure, Wall Street is now nothing more than a 'gamed system' like Vegas where the computers and fund managers now make all the money, knowing if they screw up the Feds will bail them out. Not to mention these days Wall Street is ONLY ABOUT GREED. They add little to our society other than to promote their own interests. Far from the original concept of enabling small business access to capital for growth. But then as Bob points out, it's our poor leaders who walk around with their hands in everyone's pocket, soliciting favors for promises of virtual kickbacks (Solendra), spending foolishly trillions of our dollars on $16 muffins and wars nobody wants. And academia carries much of the blame, still advocating kids getting $100,000 degrees in English Literature knowing there are no jobs available, but who cares as tenured teachers have the least amount of accountability of any in our society. I suppose there's enough blame to go around. -- Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] A FLASH in the pan? Part 2
Well, do you advocate all threads with the [OT] prefix be removed, or just the ones you personally don't care for? On Monday, November 21, 2011, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: I have strong opinions about this too, but it doesn't belong here. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] A FLASH in the pan? Part 2
I always chuckle at these sort of posts: please stop as this is out of control! it's almost like folks believe they HAVE TO read posts marked OT-- as if they're caught in some sort of clockwork orange brainwashing scene unable to control their impulses: http://media.weirdworm.com/img/misc/7-weird-movie-scenes/clockwork-orange.jpg For the most part, most of us all know each other. Stephen- a great guy and Jacque a super gal. Richmond always discusses different stuff and Colin always imparts an interesting twist on how to do things-- and yes, we're all adults who can manage our own selves without the sky is falling mantra of folks who can't stand any sort of divisiveness OR who have a hard time JUST NOT READING posts which don't interest them. One of the best parts of this list is we don't only discuss, how many ticks in a second --and sometimes take the time to learn about who each other is and what they stand for. So, please, instead of telling us to stop discussing, please try the delete button. If, you're worried about clogging your email box then consider getting a Gmail account, or perhaps using the forums. On Monday, November 21, 2011, Matthias Rebbe matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Gals and Guys, please stop here. I am always shocked, how easy a OT runs out of control. Regards, Matthias -- Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: So Who Has Tried the Kindle Fire Yet (with LiveCode building)?
Dang, Colin-- that was FAST! Thanks for the update. I've been travelling all week while mine is waiting at home. It will be in my grubby hands in a couple hours! Also, I'm about 3/4 through the Steve Jobs bio. Good read, for those of you who haven't checked it out. On Thursday, November 17, 2011, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: I have built apps straight onto it from Flash and LiveCode, and directly download apk files from the web. Its supposed to be running a variant of Android 2.3. It's 2.3.4, but has a lot of nice Amazon interface on top of it (either that, or I wasn't familiar with how Android 2.3 should look). Overall it's very good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: So Who Has Tried the Kindle Fire Yet (with LiveCode building)?
Oh, that sucks. Mine's ok. The wife stored it and now I'm typing this response. Whoppie! On Friday, November 18, 2011, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: I ordered it a few days ago, I guess they had plenty of stock. One of my email buddies arrived home to find an empty space outside his front door, where his Fire had been delivered. Hopefully yours will be alright. -- Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT?] ADOBE DROPS FLASH for HTML5
Ian, Thanks for the link. Great read. Here's my take: *Adobe is in the process of repositioning Flash from a browser plugin to a dedicated cross platform application development tool-- just like LC is right now (assuming LC sees the writing on the wall and tosses the revPlugin).* This makes sense to me. Based on what I read, and our own experience writing a million dollar Flex web app over the past couple of years, it's obvious to me how difficult it now is for Flash to be considered a worthwhile web application enterprise strategy. Add this to the current day situation of extreme poor performance (if at all) on mobile, their decision is all but made up for them. I suspect this repositioning will take some time, and upset some developers, but as mobile and desktop continue to merge, and HTML5 tools continue to get better, it only makes sense to phase out Flash, albeit slowly. -- Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT?] ADOBE DROPS FLASH for HTML5
Well said, Colin. On Thursday, November 10, 2011, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: In so many ways. It's main two flaws were that it made the common mistake of thinking that all Flash work is just playing of video, and that doing something demanding in HTML5 wouldn't also drain the battery. It also had the side effect of killing products such as LiveCode for iOS for about six months. -- Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[ANN] World's first supercomputer tablet
Richard, I think you already have V1 of these. http://gizmodo.com/5857759/meet-the-asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-the-worlds-first-supercomputer-tablet -- Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Box.net free 50Gb for iOS 5 users
I've been told by a somewhat reliable source source that you can share Box.net to your desktop using AirShare. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@altuit.com wrote: Hey guys. You don't want to miss this free lifetime giveaway. Box.net recently closed on a huge round of financing, and they are now, for a limited time, allowing anyone with an iPhone or iPad and iOS5 to download their free Box.net app from the Appstore and register for a free 50Gb of online storage! The free app pretty much sucks, but the the storage is very real. You can set up GoodReader and other desktop clients (not Box.net desktop client as they will charge you for it) and access your 50Gbs however you like. Also, if you don't have an iPhone or iPad, a friend can sign you up. Plus, you can sign yourself up for as many email addresses as you like. I've set myself up with 3 accounts and 150Gb of free data storage. I plan on using GoodSync to back up to Box.net all my important files. One note, you cannot upload a file larger than 100Mb, which shouldn't be too big an issue for me. You can use the free version http://www.gladinet.com/ to also see all your cloud storage devices as folders on our desktop. Hope this works for some of you! Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Box.net free 50Gb for iOS 5 users
Jacque, I believe they have a WebDav interface as well. Plus, perhaps sometime, someone will build a Box.net library for LC! Can't hurt to have it available. On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 1:21 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: On 10/25/11 8:10 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Hey guys. You don't want to miss this free lifetime giveaway. Box.net recently closed on a huge round of financing, and they are now, for a limited time, allowing anyone with an iPhone or iPad and iOS5 to download their free Box.net app from the Appstore and register for a free 50Gb of online storage! The free app pretty much sucks, but the the storage is very real. You can set up GoodReader and other desktop clients (not Box.net desktop client as they will charge you for it) and access your 50Gbs however you like. Also, if you don't have an iPhone or iPad, a friend can sign you up. Plus, you can sign yourself up for as many email addresses as you like. I've set myself up with 3 accounts and 150Gb of free data storage. I plan on using GoodSync to back up to Box.net all my important files. One note, you cannot upload a file larger than 100Mb, which shouldn't be too big an issue for me. You can use the free version http://www.gladinet.com/ to also see all your cloud storage devices as folders on our desktop. Do you know of anything like that for Mac? The gladinet product is Windows-only. I was going to jump on this box.net offer, but I don't see an easy way to access my stored files. It looks like only certain types of documents are available through their web interface and there is no file synch available unless you pay a monthly fee...right? So Mac, Linux, and Android people can't get their files back down? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Box.net free 50Gb for iOS 5 users
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:09 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: So for a non-Windows user, it sounds like you can upload via a web interface (do I have that right? Or is that only for certain file types?) and then you need to download via webdav, which I think will only work on a desktop machine. And if I want to access my files on my iPad or my Android tablet, I can't. Jacque, The excellent GoodReader app for iPhone and iPad has hooks for Box.net. With it you can upload files from your iOS device, as well as transfer from Google and/or Dropbox and others. Not sure if there's a GoodReader for Android. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[OT] Box.net free 50Gb for iOS 5 users
Hey guys. You don't want to miss this free lifetime giveaway. Box.net recently closed on a huge round of financing, and they are now, for a limited time, allowing anyone with an iPhone or iPad and iOS5 to download their free Box.net app from the Appstore and register for a free 50Gb of online storage! The free app pretty much sucks, but the the storage is very real. You can set up GoodReader and other desktop clients (not Box.net desktop client as they will charge you for it) and access your 50Gbs however you like. Also, if you don't have an iPhone or iPad, a friend can sign you up. Plus, you can sign yourself up for as many email addresses as you like. I've set myself up with 3 accounts and 150Gb of free data storage. I plan on using GoodSync to back up to Box.net all my important files. One note, you cannot upload a file larger than 100Mb, which shouldn't be too big an issue for me. You can use the free version http://www.gladinet.com/ to also see all your cloud storage devices as folders on our desktop. Hope this works for some of you! Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?
On Oct 11, 2011, at 8:58 PM, Admin ad...@mfelkerco.com wrote: snip. To say I was let down is an understatement. I lost my primary mode of income because the web deployment module, which supposedly worked, ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY DID NOT WORK. Wow. Betting your primary source of income on a new rev browser plugin technology where it is pretty easy to vet the facts: A) Plugins for browsers are, er.. NOT a great way to deploy software. Just search this list for rev plugin-- there's tons of information why this is true AND.. B) Further searches should tell you the rev plugin is and always has been a bit sketchy at best. Maybe it's just our company, but when we architect an app for clients, be it LC, Flex, .NET, HTML5 or any new framework, we spend the necessary upfront time researching (most importantly) what it CAN'T do. Frequently we build test bed mockups just to be sure. I'm sure it's a hard lesson learned, but I would assume not one you will be forgetting soon. And YOU ARE CORRECT. RunRev should NOT publish a half-complete product unless they call it beta software. The fact is, with LC, some things are much more finished and polished than other things. Unfortunately for you, the one you chose is fairly rough. I believe UNICODE has been on the coming next list (along with a new improved field object) for the last 5+ years. Most of us who have been around for quite a while know the sweet spots, and the potholes, so many times it's no big deal to us when Unicode misses another upgrade revision. We weren't counting on it. Unfortunately, you had no such forewarning or knowledge of this. Still, RunRev is a VERY small company. They have brilliant programmers and Kevin Miller has done an almost perfect job steering the ship through the channel already littered with dead xTalk efforts. Perhaps they are now in a growth spurt, taking on just a bit more than they can handle-- hurrying to play catchup with the huge number of features and APIs the hundreds of programmers at Apple, and thousands of programmers at Microsoft and Google, not to mention the Andre's, Richmond's, and Gaskin's relentless pursuit of feature parity for Red Ubuntu Hat. Oh, and the severe competition of multiple other RAD tools out there might also factor into some of the catchup going on. I'm not making apologies for them, but I do know of a few other products who are faring worse. So, add it all up, and it shows LC to be a company who is always changing, always pissing someone off, always righting the ship and shipping a new build, and-- always listening. Still, it is a company with flaws, just like any other. My suggestion: do your homework and you won't be so sorely disappointed. There are many here who will steer you correctly. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Reading PDFs in LC (again)
Graham, I'm puzzled why you're using ImageMagick when even with ImageMagick you still need to install GhostScript. Why not only install GhostScript and run it from the command line (or process)? It can directly convert PDF's to PNG, BMP, JPG, etc.. which can then be imported into LC. On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com wrote: Folks, I have been reading all the responses I got on this issue that appeared under a number of different subject headings in the last couple of weeks. I thought people might be interested in my current position. First, my intention was to read PDFs as images (bitmaps) into an LC-authored app written to be run under Windows. This is clearly quite a restricted way of using PDFs, since they can contain readable text and much else which I don't currently care about. However, even with these restrictions it is not an easy thing to code a reader for PDFs entirely in LiveCode, so some third-party component appears to be needed. Second, I also had another need for input of bitmaps, which was to read TIFF files. In my original posts I didn't explain this as I thought it would complicate the discussion. Sadly this is another format that LC doesn't help us with. Third, I needed generous licensing terms, so that the additional component(s) to accomplish the input would be either free or else licensed on a pay-once basis, without per-user charges imposed on the end user, much like LC itself. Fourth (and last), I am writing an app for busy non-technical people which means among other things that any installation process should be simple, and certainly without any kind of extended interaction about options, licensing terms etc. demanded of the user. I have considered various approaches, with ImageMagick being the technical front runner (it's 'free' - kind of - and fulfils my technical requirements). I was scared of ImageMagick both because of the Windows-specific technical warnings on the download site and because of the license terms. The good news is that people on this list have persuaded me that I should not be scared. There is still some question over the license terms, since the one commercial supplier of the main underlying component, GhostScript (Artifex), insists that: If your application (including its source code) is not licensed to the public under the GNU GPL, you are not authorized to ship GPL Ghostscript or GPL MuPDF with your application under the terms of the GNU GPL if any one of the following is true: your application contains a copy of some or all of GPL Ghostscript or MuPDF; your application is derived from, is based on, or constitutes a revision of some or all of GPL Ghostscript or MuPDF; your application includes one or more functions that use some or all of GPL Ghostscript or MuPDF. These criteria apply to your application as a whole. Even if only one section of your application satisfies one of these criteria, you are not authorized to ship GPL Ghostscript or GPL MuPDF with your application unless your application, including all of its source code, is licensed to the public under the GNU GPL. If your application (including its source code) is NOT licensed to the public under the GNU GPL and you intend to distribute Ghostscript or MuPDF to a third party for use with and usable by your application, you MUST first obtain a commercial license from Artifex. Various people on the list have suggested that there are workarounds that render this statement untrue, and since there appear to be real-world examples of commercial products that do use GhostScript without a commercial license, I am going to adopt the approach suggested, hopefully maintaining the letter and spirit of the GPL. OK, the next thing is to try it - probably not using 'shell' (heeding Monte Goulding's warning and adopting his solution, which sadly I only half understand). I have command-line fear, but I guess I'll get over it (when I started programming computers, we didn't even have command lines - sounds like a Monty Python sketch, but true. The machines were not actually steam powered). I'll report back if I get to a point where my app (including its install process) appears viable. Graham ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
new iPhone 4s
Pete, Thanks very much for your candid and non-biased review-- just what I was looking for. I'm not i treated in mobile OS wars, but am just thinking of switching to Android as I very non-plussed with the Apple iPhone 4s, and would be giving my 4 to my wife. I already own Siri, and don't really use it that much. I use an app called reQall which I can dictate to and it automatically puts stuff correctlyonmy calendar. It uses actual humans to do this and costs a small monthly fee. Stephen, Very sorry to have continually affronted your finely honed sense of fairness! You've been around these forums as long as I have, heck, maybe longer. We've agreed and disagreed, then agreed some more-- and I've shared some of my favorite eating places here in Austin with you. Always love chatting with you and especially enjoy your ruminations of the good old times. I'm having some fun here-- and trying to learn about Android as well. I know I'll end up stepping on the sensibilities of the Mac faithful-- it always happens-- and they always respond predictably, as if one of their own family is being attacked. C'est la vie! Gerry, Again, not really interested in your opinion of my level of ill informed. I only stated, as have many pundits, bloggers and media folks, that the 4s is quite a bit less than what we've come to expect from Apple announcements. I will still stand by my earlier claim the iPhone is the single greatest invention I have ever owned, with the Mac 128 a close second. But, that was years ago and I'm interested in learning about the other options today. PS I do know for a fact the iphone5 exists. That part I'm not ill informed on. That's all I can say. I was hoping I'd see it today. Guess not. -- Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: new iPhone 4s
Based on the feedback here, and knowing I can't wait another 16 months for Apple to announce a competitive phone, I visited the ATT store today. As a side note, when Apple first introduced the iPhone 4, Android had only 9% of the smartphone market. Now, only 16 months later, it has passed Apple's 27% with an almost 44% share. Wow! Talk about growth and adoption rate. http://www.slashgear.com/comscore-android-nears-44-of-us-smartphone-market-share-05185688/ And regarding Apple's lackluster performance yesterday, even the Apple fans agree: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/10/05/apples_iphone_4s_event_seen_lacking_panache_allowing_android_to_gain.html The trend is clear. For a short time, Apple owned the market in Smartphones, but no longer. Apples tablet marketshare has dropped another 20 points over the past year. Apple's incredible designs and features have been copied and many eclipsed by the competition-- and for a lower price. Those who are brand loyal stick with Apple. Those who are value and feature conscious will migrate. Back to ATT. The salesperson told me how surprised he was to see the many of iPhone users asking the same questions today about Android smartphones. And here's the rub: whether you agree with him, or me, the fact is when I switch to Android, I take a whole lot of folks with me. I have 5 iPhone users on my ATT plan. I influence many other close relatives and family members who look to me to provide advice on these sort of difficult decisions. I also have quite an active social media profile. I suspect there are also many leading edge consumers who are considering a switch which will affect others similarly. So, my prediction. I believe within 3 years of Jobs not being chairman, iOS devices will be in the 30% marketshare for both tablets and phones OR Apple will begin licensing iOS to other manufacturers. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: new iPhone 4s
A quicker way would to use a widget, something iOS does not support. As long as we're looking at workflow and use cases, here is the only way I know how to simply add a folder to my photos collection: 1. Dock my iPad/iPhone to my desktop computer 2. Wait for it to sync, and install an OS update (30-45 min) 2a. restart iDevice and hope it resumes correctly. If it doesn't (has happened to me on numerous occasions) wipe device and reinstall new iOS and sync again, while waving a dead chicken above the device for good pluck! 3. Use iTunes to create a folder for photos. 4. un dock and enjoy the new folder! Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc On Oct 5, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: As an example if this, here's the standard built in way I've found to close a few apps (and please let me know if there is a quicker way!): iOS: double press the Home button, press and hold on any icon, then touch the X to close any of the apps you want to close. Android: 1. Touch the Clock in the lower right. 2. In the popup that appears there are some sliders to the right. Touch those. 3. In the popup that appears, touch Settings at the bottom. 4. Touch Applications in the list on the left. 5. Touch Manage applications at the top of the list on the right. 6. In the next screen, touch Running on the right. 7. This next step can take a while, because it lists all of the processes running. Scroll through the list to find the app you want to close, and touch that. 8. There may be more than one sub process listed. Touch Stop for each one. 9. You're back at the previous list now, scroll until you find the next app you want to close. Touch Stop. 10. If greeted with a Stop system service? dialog, touch OK. 11. Repeat steps 9 and 10 for each of the other apps you want to close. I have installed Advanced Task Killer, which does allow me to quickly close all the processes I want, but I'm only comparing the standard features here. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: new iPhone 4s
No such feature on my iPad2 or my iPhone4. You must be using a much newer iOS than I- (perhaps beta). As I said, I tend more towards the, if it ain't broke, don't fix it theory when working with iOS devices as I (and some of my Windows cohorts) had a very precarious time installing new versions and virtually any connect takes me 30 minutes. So, let's just say I've learned to live with the 1000 pictures in my single Camera Roll. If indeed this now works, it's nice to see it only took Apple a year and a half to add this fairly standard feature. BTW, do you know how to transfer a 15+ Mb Keynote file from your iPad? You can't email it, and unless you've a paid for MobileMe account, it's very, very difficult and require almost as many steps as sharing a simple rev iOS app with a friend. Just wondering, how does one share a Rev app on Android? I know it's a huge pain to ad hoc share an app on iTunes-- I have done that before. Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc On Oct 5, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: Do you mean Albums? You can touch the Album tab, Edit, New Album, then go to your photos and pick ones to add to that album. On Oct 5, 2011, at 5:17 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: A quicker way would to use a widget, something iOS does not support. As long as we're looking at workflow and use cases, here is the only way I know how to simply add a folder to my photos collection: ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: new iPhone 4s
Dixie, Does it really matter? Altuit has tried unsuccessfully for the past 60 days to purchase an enterprise license. Apple has required our company to submit a DB rating, then they've asked for our Articles of Incorporation. We've been stuck there for quite awhile. I'm told there is also an interview process where you are grilled about the application you're designing. We've decided to finally give up and let's just require all agents to use Androids. The requirements application for developing Enterprise apps for Androids are... ZIP. Just develop, compile, and away you go. So, I guess it does matter to some. Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc On Oct 5, 2011, at 4:41 PM, John Dixon dixo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: I suspect, after reading your earlier post, that your 'downer' on Apple's new phone seems to be that it did not carry the number '5' in its title… As Shakespeare asked, 'What's in a name? That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet. Don't forget, the iphone 4 has not been around for that long… Lots of people who carry contracts on their iphones still have a long time to wait before they would be able to upgrade their device.. Calling the new iPhone '4s' might just turn out to be a very clever decision economically since a lot of people might be 'miffed' that completely new model has appeared and that they are still somewhere in the middle of the term of their contract. I think that the new iPhone is excellent, improvements in the processor being used, a new operating system iOS 5, 8 megapixels in the camera, longer battery life, hopefully with the antenna being able to switch between signals, err… perhaps it's a 4G handset ! … Here in the UK the '4s' will go on sale in a few days time at a lower price than the iPhone 4 by £12… the cost of an iPhone 4 has fallen by £ 72… Or perhaps your present iPhone has just stopped working will the arrival of its new cousin… Thankfully, this to o a liveCode programmer this should not really matter one iota as Edinburgh provide you with the ability to write apps for both the Apple and Android device offerings ? It's a phone, does it really matter ? Dixie Subject: Re: new iPhone 4s From: ch...@altuit.com Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 15:55:29 -0500 To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Based on the feedback here, and knowing I can't wait another 16 months for Apple to announce a competitive phone, I visited the ATT store today. As a side note, when Apple first introduced the iPhone 4, Android had only 9% of the smartphone market. Now, only 16 months later, it has passed Apple's 27% with an almost 44% share. Wow! Talk about growth and adoption rate. http://www.slashgear.com/comscore-android-nears-44-of-us-smartphone-market-share-05185688/ And regarding Apple's lackluster performance yesterday, even the Apple fans agree: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/10/05/apples_iphone_4s_event_seen_lacking_panache_allowing_android_to_gain.html The trend is clear. For a short time, Apple owned the market in Smartphones, but no longer. Apples tablet marketshare has dropped another 20 points over the past year. Apple's incredible designs and features have been copied and many eclipsed by the competition-- and for a lower price. Those who are brand loyal stick with Apple. Those who are value and feature conscious will migrate. Back to ATT. The salesperson told me how surprised he was to see the many of iPhone users asking the same questions today about Android smartphones. And here's the rub: whether you agree with him, or me, the fact is when I switch to Android, I take a whole lot of folks with me. I have 5 iPhone users on my ATT plan. I influence many other close relatives and family members who look to me to provide advice on these sort of difficult decisions. I also have quite an active social media profile. I suspect there are also many leading edge consumers who are considering a switch which will affect others similarly. So, my prediction. I believe within 3 years of Jobs not being chairman, iOS devices will be in the 30% marketshare for both tablets and phones OR Apple will begin licensing iOS to other manufacturers. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
Re: new iPhone 4s
Hmmm. A quick search on this issue shows: http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xlzh856Guxgv=Xlzh856Guxggl=US I'm still not sure this feature is available on non beta versions of iOS. Do you know? On Wednesday, October 5, 2011, Gerry Orkin gerry.or...@gmail.com wrote: Chipp wrote: here is the only way I know how to simply add a folder to my photos collection: 1. Dock my iPad/iPhone to my desktop computer Really? This is how I do it: 1) Open Photos app on the device 2) Touch the Albums button 3) Touch the Add button 4) Name the album 2. Wait for it to sync, and install an OS update (30-45 min) At least Apple releases OS updates on a regular basis. On Android many devices are stuck on old versions of the OS, never to be updated to take advantage of the (supposed) benefits of the platform. Gerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: new iPhone 4s
For you, maybe. Here's how I build for my customers: Mac, PC, and soon, Android: Here's the app. Don't worry about any sort of license. And.. don't worry about updates. We use our own self-updating architecture, refined over hundreds of apps and thousands of instances, to instantly update your application whenever it is needed. Using MagicCarpet: Time to revision = 25 seconds (the time of an FTP upload). Now everyone is up-to-date next time they launch the application. It's possible I can update an App several times a day. Five updates take me all of 3 minutes or less. But for iPhone, please wait until we can receive the correct data from you (UUID) to add you to the ad hoc list, then we can create a new build (1 hour by your measure, more by ours), and you should be good to go in less than 24 hours UNLESS we have to put it in the AppStore, then it will take a week. How funny you try and defend the one area which even the Mac faithful all agree is a POS. Great job. On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Gerry Orkin gerry.or...@gmail.com wrote: Set up to do that on iOS took me less than an hour, and it takes a new ad hoc user about 10 minutes to add themselves to the distribution group once I've issued an invite. Actually distributing an ad hoc build takes me...oh...5 minutes? A huge pain, I agree... Gerry On 06/10/2011, at 8:57 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: Just wondering, how does one share a Rev app on Android? I know it's a huge pain to ad hoc share an app on iTunes-- I have done that before. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Steve Jobs dead
Jobs was perhaps the greatest marketing mind in the history of the world. R.I.P. He will be missed. On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: Charles Szasz wrote: Whether you are an Apple fanboy or not, there is no doubt in my mind we have lost a true visionary in the technology world. I feel blessed to have been alive to enjoy Apple products. I wish I had the good fortunate to see an Apple presentation with Steve presenting. God bless Steve and my condolences to Steve's family. Well said, Charles. I did have the pleasure of seeing Jobs present once, at WWDC a few years back courtesy of RunRev (I was helping at their booth with Chipp). No one lit up a room better than Steve. He will be sorely missed. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/**blog.irvhttp://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
