Re: Where does LiveCode/Windows store specialFolderPath("Resources") data?
That's the result I get when I'm running in the LC environment. That didn't
happen with a standalone. The dictionary describes where these files go: "In
a standalone, the resources folder where files or folders specified in the
Standalone Builder are located." It says your resources go in "the
resources folder" where any files you've specified are located.
This appears to be referring to the Copy Files tab of the Standalone
Builder. Since my data file is created in the app, I don't have anything to
put in the Copy Files tab. If this tab is empty, what is the default
location? Is there some other place in the Standalone builder where you can
point to files or folders?
On the Mac, this definition is verifiable, since my data file *is* in the
Resources folder (although a couple levels down) within the application
bundle. Under Windows, is there actually a folder somewhere called
Resources? Where is it?
On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 12:59 PM Brian Milby via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> It should report the parent folder of the executable. I just built a test
> and it works as expected per the dictionary entry for specialFolderPath.
>
> Thanks,
> Brian
> On Oct 2, 2018, 3:20 PM -0400, Howard Bornstein via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>, wrote:
> > I'm building a cross-platform app for Mac and Windows. I store a data
> file
> > that is update by the user in specialFolderPath("Resources"). On the
> Mac, I
> > know where this is and can even view it, using the Show Package command
> > from the Finder.
> >
> > One thing that is clear with the Mac is that this data file is
> encapsulated
> > with the app itself. If I run a separate instance of the app, the data
> file
> > is completely separate and not influenced by the data file of the first
> app.
> >
> > This doesn't seem to be the case with Windows. I've built 3 separate
> > standalones in Windows and have found, to my surprise, that if I change
> the
> > data file in one of the standalones, it is reflected in the datafile of
> the
> > others.
> >
> > Somehow it seems like the data file is stored externally from the app and
> > that all versions have access to it (whether that is my intent or not).
> >
> > I've build special versions for each platform with the command
> > "Put specialFolderPath("Resources") into fld "somefield" in the openstack
> > handler. On the Mac it gives me the full path to the application along
> with
> > "/Contents/Resources/_MacOS/". On the Windows version, the field is
> blank.
> >
> > So where does LC store files using specialFolderPath("Resources") under
> > Windows? And why are they available to any app using
> > specialFolderPath("Resources")?
> >
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> >
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Where does LiveCode/Windows store specialFolderPath("Resources") data?
I'm building a cross-platform app for Mac and Windows. I store a data file
that is update by the user in specialFolderPath("Resources"). On the Mac, I
know where this is and can even view it, using the Show Package command
from the Finder.
One thing that is clear with the Mac is that this data file is encapsulated
with the app itself. If I run a separate instance of the app, the data file
is completely separate and not influenced by the data file of the first app.
This doesn't seem to be the case with Windows. I've built 3 separate
standalones in Windows and have found, to my surprise, that if I change the
data file in one of the standalones, it is reflected in the datafile of the
others.
Somehow it seems like the data file is stored externally from the app and
that all versions have access to it (whether that is my intent or not).
I've build special versions for each platform with the command
"Put specialFolderPath("Resources") into fld "somefield" in the openstack
handler. On the Mac it gives me the full path to the application along with
"/Contents/Resources/_MacOS/". On the Windows version, the field is blank.
So where does LC store files using specialFolderPath("Resources") under
Windows? And why are they available to any app using
specialFolderPath("Resources")?
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Re: mousemove doesn't recognize "shiftkey is down", but only under Windows
I'm only using Parallels, so I don't know the answer to that. On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 8:47 PM Stephen Barncard via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Does the same thing happen with VMware? > > not that I have any plans to develop anything in Windows. > -- > Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - > mixstream.org > > > On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 8:16 PM Howard Bornstein via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > I just wanted to mention that the problem detecting the shift-key being > > down seems to be entirely an issue with Parallels. My test, running under > > Windows 10 on a real PC had no trouble with my code that was looking for > > the shift-key being down. I'm glad to see this problem wasn't within > > LiveCode. There are so many layers where something can go wrong, it can > be > > a challenge identifying exactly where the problem is happening. It must > be > > a pretty specific issue with Parallels that only manifests by ignoring > the > > shift key. > > > > On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 10:02 PM Howard Bornstein < > bornst...@designeq.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 10:50 PM Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode < > > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> Howard: > > >> > > >> > All my test show that for the Shift key and the Option key, when > > >> > called within a mousemove handler, it doesn't register that the > > >> > keys are down unless the mouse button is clicked first. > > >> > > >> Hi Howard, I tested your code verbatim in the card script of a new > stack > > >> in LC 901 on native Windows 10 with a real PC laptop, Dell Intel i5. > > >> > > >> It works fine here. > > > > > > > > > Thanks for testing this out. > > > > > > > > >> I also noticed that since "shiftkey" only has two > > >> states, you don't really need to test it twice; you could cut out the > > >> second "if" statement. In fact, this yields similar results: > > >> > > >> on mousemove x,y > > >> put x,y && the shiftkey > > >> end mousemove > > >> > > > > > > Lol. Yeah, I wasn't trying for elegance. I was making sure the code and > > > results were absolutely clear. > > > > > > > > >> So, despite the very significant issues that LC 9 has on real Windows, > > >> including a barely-usable script editor, it seems likely that this is > > >> not one of them. That's good news! But obviously you do have a > problem. > > >> > > >> Have you tested your code in a brand new empty stack in a fresh and > > >> unmodded instance of LC, no extra plugins or scripts running? If so, > if > > >> it's just Parallels, I have to say that virtual Windows isn't quite > the > > >> same. Well, I guess an Intel Mac sporting a GUI that contradicts much > of > > >> Apple's original research isn't quite the same either; I'm a big > > >> original Mac guy! :) But some details are different. That's why I > always > > >> use real Mac and real Windows. > > >> > > > > > > I have friend with a real Windows machine that will test the code of > the > > > app where I applied this technique so, hopefully I'll be able to see if > > it > > > works on a real PC and if the problem is Parallels. I'm a Mac guy too > and > > > only use Windows to test apps built for both platforms. > > > > > > > > >> But if you get different results with a fresh stack and LC, if there > is > > >> something else going on and you would like me to test your actual > stack > > >> (on native Windows) or help solve your problem, feel free to contact > me > > >> off-list. Interesting. > > >> > > > > > > Thanks. I'll let you know what my friend turns up. > > > > > > > > >> (Meanwhile, hope we can get improvements for some of the real Windows > > >> problems that LC has. It's difficult to type in the LC 901 script > editor > > >> on Windows - that is a pretty huge issue. I have a WordLib update > coming > > >> out in a few days, pending final tests, and it never hurts to have a > > >> fully usable version of the latest LC IDE on both platforms!) > > >> > > &
Re: mousemove doesn't recognize "shiftkey is down", but only under Windows
I just wanted to mention that the problem detecting the shift-key being down seems to be entirely an issue with Parallels. My test, running under Windows 10 on a real PC had no trouble with my code that was looking for the shift-key being down. I'm glad to see this problem wasn't within LiveCode. There are so many layers where something can go wrong, it can be a challenge identifying exactly where the problem is happening. It must be a pretty specific issue with Parallels that only manifests by ignoring the shift key. On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 10:02 PM Howard Bornstein wrote: > > > On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 10:50 PM Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> >> Howard: >> >> > All my test show that for the Shift key and the Option key, when >> > called within a mousemove handler, it doesn't register that the >> > keys are down unless the mouse button is clicked first. >> >> Hi Howard, I tested your code verbatim in the card script of a new stack >> in LC 901 on native Windows 10 with a real PC laptop, Dell Intel i5. >> >> It works fine here. > > > Thanks for testing this out. > > >> I also noticed that since "shiftkey" only has two >> states, you don't really need to test it twice; you could cut out the >> second "if" statement. In fact, this yields similar results: >> >> on mousemove x,y >> put x,y && the shiftkey >> end mousemove >> > > Lol. Yeah, I wasn't trying for elegance. I was making sure the code and > results were absolutely clear. > > >> So, despite the very significant issues that LC 9 has on real Windows, >> including a barely-usable script editor, it seems likely that this is >> not one of them. That's good news! But obviously you do have a problem. >> >> Have you tested your code in a brand new empty stack in a fresh and >> unmodded instance of LC, no extra plugins or scripts running? If so, if >> it's just Parallels, I have to say that virtual Windows isn't quite the >> same. Well, I guess an Intel Mac sporting a GUI that contradicts much of >> Apple's original research isn't quite the same either; I'm a big >> original Mac guy! :) But some details are different. That's why I always >> use real Mac and real Windows. >> > > I have friend with a real Windows machine that will test the code of the > app where I applied this technique so, hopefully I'll be able to see if it > works on a real PC and if the problem is Parallels. I'm a Mac guy too and > only use Windows to test apps built for both platforms. > > >> But if you get different results with a fresh stack and LC, if there is >> something else going on and you would like me to test your actual stack >> (on native Windows) or help solve your problem, feel free to contact me >> off-list. Interesting. >> > > Thanks. I'll let you know what my friend turns up. > > >> (Meanwhile, hope we can get improvements for some of the real Windows >> problems that LC has. It's difficult to type in the LC 901 script editor >> on Windows - that is a pretty huge issue. I have a WordLib update coming >> out in a few days, pending final tests, and it never hurts to have a >> fully usable version of the latest LC IDE on both platforms!) >> > > I did work a little bit in the script editor under Windows and didn't > notice the awful problems you've been reporting, but again, it was just > some tweaks and code changes. I don't do most of my scripting under > Windows. I hope this gets fixed. > > >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Curry Kenworthy >> >> Custom Software Development >> "Better Methods, Better Results" >> LiveCode Training and Consulting >> http://livecodeconsulting.com/ >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > > > -- > Regards, > > Howard Bornstein > --- > www.designeq.com > -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: mousemove doesn't recognize "shiftkey is down", but only under Windows
On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 10:50 PM Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Howard: > > > All my test show that for the Shift key and the Option key, when > > called within a mousemove handler, it doesn't register that the > > keys are down unless the mouse button is clicked first. > > Hi Howard, I tested your code verbatim in the card script of a new stack > in LC 901 on native Windows 10 with a real PC laptop, Dell Intel i5. > > It works fine here. Thanks for testing this out. > I also noticed that since "shiftkey" only has two > states, you don't really need to test it twice; you could cut out the > second "if" statement. In fact, this yields similar results: > > on mousemove x,y > put x,y && the shiftkey > end mousemove > Lol. Yeah, I wasn't trying for elegance. I was making sure the code and results were absolutely clear. > So, despite the very significant issues that LC 9 has on real Windows, > including a barely-usable script editor, it seems likely that this is > not one of them. That's good news! But obviously you do have a problem. > > Have you tested your code in a brand new empty stack in a fresh and > unmodded instance of LC, no extra plugins or scripts running? If so, if > it's just Parallels, I have to say that virtual Windows isn't quite the > same. Well, I guess an Intel Mac sporting a GUI that contradicts much of > Apple's original research isn't quite the same either; I'm a big > original Mac guy! :) But some details are different. That's why I always > use real Mac and real Windows. > I have friend with a real Windows machine that will test the code of the app where I applied this technique so, hopefully I'll be able to see if it works on a real PC and if the problem is Parallels. I'm a Mac guy too and only use Windows to test apps built for both platforms. > But if you get different results with a fresh stack and LC, if there is > something else going on and you would like me to test your actual stack > (on native Windows) or help solve your problem, feel free to contact me > off-list. Interesting. > Thanks. I'll let you know what my friend turns up. > (Meanwhile, hope we can get improvements for some of the real Windows > problems that LC has. It's difficult to type in the LC 901 script editor > on Windows - that is a pretty huge issue. I have a WordLib update coming > out in a few days, pending final tests, and it never hurts to have a > fully usable version of the latest LC IDE on both platforms!) > I did work a little bit in the script editor under Windows and didn't notice the awful problems you've been reporting, but again, it was just some tweaks and code changes. I don't do most of my scripting under Windows. I hope this gets fixed. > > Best wishes, > > Curry Kenworthy > > Custom Software Development > "Better Methods, Better Results" > LiveCode Training and Consulting > http://livecodeconsulting.com/ > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: mousemove doesn't recognize "shiftkey is down", but only under Windows
Thanks Brian, I don't know what the problem could be. All my test show that for the Shift key and the Option key, when called within a mousemove handler, it doesn't register that the keys are down unless the mouse button is clicked first. I'm running Windows 7 instead of 10, but I doubt that's the difference. It's possible that Parallels, might be interfering somehow, but it's a pretty specific issue. You ran my little test script and got the "Up" output by just pressing the shift key down and nothing else? On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 3:37 PM Brian Milby via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I just did a quick test on Win10 and it works as it should. Tested with LC > 9.0.1 stable. > > Thanks, > Brian > On Sep 23, 2018, 5:20 PM -0500, Howard Bornstein via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>, wrote: > > Sadly, both the keysDown() function as well as rawKeyDown, only return a > > keycode for the shift key (and the option key) upon key UP. All the other > > keys work on key down but these do not. Do you have any idea why? > > > > Should I file a bug report on ShiftKey down? Were you able to verify this > > bug from the test code I sent (I put it in the card handler of a stack)? > > > > On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 12:04 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > > On 9/22/18 11:03 PM, Howard Bornstein via use-livecode wrote: > > > > This is exceedingly weird. I can't get a mousemove handler to > recognize > > > if > > > > the shiftkey is down (although I think this is true for all key > > > > modifiers—Shiftkey down and OptionKey down for sure). The only way it > > > > detects this state is if I click the mouse button while holding the > > > > shiftkey down. > > > > > > You could see if the keysDown() function works instead. > > > > > > -- > > > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com > > > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > use-livecode mailing list > > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > > subscription preferences: > > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > > > Howard Bornstein > > --- > > www.designeq.com > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: mousemove doesn't recognize "shiftkey is down", but only under Windows
Sadly, both the keysDown() function as well as rawKeyDown, only return a keycode for the shift key (and the option key) upon key UP. All the other keys work on key down but these do not. Do you have any idea why? Should I file a bug report on ShiftKey down? Were you able to verify this bug from the test code I sent (I put it in the card handler of a stack)? On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 12:04 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 9/22/18 11:03 PM, Howard Bornstein via use-livecode wrote: > > This is exceedingly weird. I can't get a mousemove handler to recognize > if > > the shiftkey is down (although I think this is true for all key > > modifiers—Shiftkey down and OptionKey down for sure). The only way it > > detects this state is if I click the mouse button while holding the > > shiftkey down. > > You could see if the keysDown() function works instead. > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
mousemove doesn't recognize "shiftkey is down", but only under Windows
This is exceedingly weird. I can't get a mousemove handler to recognize if the shiftkey is down (although I think this is true for all key modifiers—Shiftkey down and OptionKey down for sure). The only way it detects this state is if I click the mouse button while holding the shiftkey down. Then it continues to return the correct state of the shiftkey (including when the shiftkey is up), but after that can not detect when it is down again without another mouseclick. This is only the case under Windows. Under MacOS everything works fine. Here's the simple test code: *on* mousemove *if* the shiftkey is up *then* *put* the mouseloc && "Up" *else* *if* the shiftkey is down *then* *put* the mouseloc && "Down" *end* *if* *end* *if* *end* mousemove When the shiftkey is down, it isn't detected by this code unless the mouse button is also clicked. I'm running this under LiveCode Community 9.01 under Windows 7 via Parallels Desktop on a Mac. Why would this not work under Windows when it works perfectly under MacOS? Any suggestions on how to get Livecode to recognize that the shiftkey is down in a mousemove handler under Windows? Ideas and suggestions are welcome. -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Has anyone gotten "set the icon of this stack" to work?
I want to modify the icon in the dock (not the Finder) under script control. According to the dictionary, the proper command is "set the icon of this stack". I can successfully call this command and test that the icon of the stack is set to the image ID I specify, however, the dock icon never changes to the image I choose. It appears that everything works (i.e. no errors are thrown) except for the actual dock icon changing. Has anyone gotten this to work? -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
LC 8 speed advantages??
"LiveCode 8 is on average 3.5 times faster than LiveCode 7" I was very interested to see this claim as I had been hoping for better speeds in a text manipulation app I wrote. After building a standalone with LC 8, I ran the same test file in the new LC8 standalone as a version I compiled in LC7. In LC7, the standalone processed the text file in 28 seconds. In the "much faster" LC8 version, the file took 38 seconds! What's up with that? This program only uses text manipulation—no graphics work at all—so it should have shown a substantial speed up, according to this quote on the LC website: "In LiveCode 8 we’ve completely rewritten our low level string and binary implementations for speed and performance." Needless to say, I was very surprised at this result. Has anyone seen similar (or contrary) results with text manipulation? -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Free BasicClock desktop clock for OSX
Thanks Hermann, I think both of these are outlier conditions, but the clock hiding the color picker surprised me and I may try to figure a workaround on it. Thanks for letting me know. -Howard On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 5:35 PM, [-hh] <h...@livecode.org> wrote: > Howard B. wrote: > > Did you not have any of these fonts installed at the time? > > Had you explicitly removed them? What version of OSX are > > you running? > > I have > 800 fonts on my Mac (and use newest OSX developer > preview). Of course I enable only a small subset, what I > currently need. Your's are usually not in that subset. > > > Again, I'm wondering if this happened naturally for you > > or if you created this condition for stress testing. > > No stress test, a simple short test for functionality. > I was curious whether you have implemented very special > features because you hide your code. Then I saw this, > tried to be helpful and reported. > > Good luck with your app. > === > Hermann > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Free BasicClock desktop clock for OSX
On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:05 AM, [-hh] <h...@livecode.org> wrote: > Howard, two hints to your clock: > = If user hasn't installed (or disabled) the few fonts you > make available then it always has the same 'system font'. > This is true, however all my testers had these fonts installed by default so my assumption was that they would all show up. Did you not have any of these fonts installed at the time? Had you explicitly removed them? What version of OSX are you running? I'm trying to determine the likelihood of this occurring to see if it makes sense to spend the time trying to account for this case. > = The colour chooser may be fully hidden by the clock window > and then 'blocks' the app. > Ha! I never saw this but was able to hide the color picker behind the clock if I made the clock big enough and placed it in the same spot as the color picker. Hitting the return key (or quitting the app) gets you out of this as it turns out. Again, I'm wondering if this happened naturally for you or if you created this condition for stress testing. Thanks for the feedback. -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Free BasicClock desktop clock for OSX
Updated. On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 7:52 AM, Richard Gaskin <ambassa...@fourthworld.com> wrote: > Randy Hengst wrote: > > > I didn’t see an attribution to LiveCode in your “About” menu or your > > pdf help doc. Is attribution no longer required? > > Section 4d of the Indy license seems to still require it: > > d) Copyright notices, as defined in Appendix A, must appear wherever > any other copyright or trademark notice appears in any Created > Software distributed as a standalone executable, its > documentation, advertising, and other product-related literature. > > ... > > APPENDIX A - Required Copyright Notice > > You must include the following copyright notice where other such > notices appear. In the event that such other notices do not appear > in the Created Software, this notice must be placed in a reasonable > location. > > Built with LiveCode. Portions Copyright (C) 2000-2015 LiveCode Ltd, > All Rights Reserved Worldwide. > > In common with many other platforms the LiveCode Software uses open > source software to deliver some functionality. You must also include > the file "Open Source Licenses.txt" within any created software. This > may be included within your About screen, as a file within the folder > structure of a desktop app or in another accessible location. > > We would like you to include the LiveCode Ltd logo, as per the terms > set on our website. However, unlike the Copyright notices above, you > are not required to include the logo. > > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World Systems > Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web > > ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Free BasicClock desktop clock for OSX
It's closed source for the time being. On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 3:47 AM, Peter TB Brett <peter.br...@livecode.com> wrote: > > On 14/02/2016 20:55, Howard Bornstein wrote: > > So many clocks today still employ the flip-clock or 7-segment LED display > > aesthetic that is at least 20 years old. Given that we now have high > > resolution displays and very high-quality fonts available, I wanted to > make > > a simple clock that took advantage of these improvements as an > alternative > > to the “retro” clocks that are mostly available. > > > > The clock itself is basic—just time, day, and date. It’s designed to sit > in > > the corner of your screen and float over everything else. > > > > But you can modify the *look* of the clock in many ways, by using > different > > fonts and by modifying the clock and background colors. Other visual > > options include adding a border, using rounded corners, drop shadows and > > inner shadows. > > > > The clock is also infinitely resizable so you can make it any size you > need > > to fit in your work area. > > > > Because there can be so many visual options, there is also a mechanism to > > save your favorites designs and call them up later. > > > > You can see the features of BasicClock here: BasicClock Read Me.pdf > > <http://designeq.com/deq/software/Welcome%20to%20BasicClock%20V2.04.pdf> > > > > and download it here: BasicClock V2.04.zip > > <http://designeq.com/deq/software/BasicClock%20V2.04.app.zip> > > > > Note that you might have to “allow” this clock to run in the Security & > > Privacy control panel if you have Gatekeeper running on your Mac. > > > > Hi Howard, > > Is your clock open source? At the moment it has "All rights reserved" in > the copyright... > > Peter > > -- > Dr Peter Brett <peter.br...@livecode.com> > LiveCode Open Source Team > > LiveCode on reddit: https://reddit.com/r/livecode > > > _______ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Free BasicClock desktop clock for OSX
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 3:25 AM, FlexibleLearning.com < ad...@flexiblelearning.com> wrote: > Nice one, Howard. Hopefully your BasicClock will soon be available for > other > platforms also. > Thanks Hugh. It's OSX only because I don't run any other platforms to test it on. I suppose if someone was running windows or linux and wanted to test it, I could build a version, but I know it's difficult to find and correct those niggling bugs on a platform you don't run. > 1. Free BasicClock > You can see the features of BasicClock here: BasicClock Read Me.pdf > http://designeq.com/deq/software/Welcome%20to%20BasicClock%20V2.04.pdf > > and download it here: BasicClock V2.04.zip > http://designeq.com/deq/software/BasicClock%20V2.04.app.zip > > > 2. Free ClearView Clock with calendar > Previews and downloads for Windows, Mac OSX and Linux > http://www.flexiblelearning.com/freeclock/ > > > Hugh Senior > FLCo > > > > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 12:55:26 -0800 > > From: Howard Bornstein <bornst...@designeq.com> > > To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> > > Subject: Free BasicClock desktop clock for OSX > > > > So many clocks today still employ the flip-clock or 7-segment LED display > > aesthetic that is at least 20 years old. Given that we now have high > resolution > > displays and very high-quality fonts available, I wanted to make a simple > clock > > that took advantage of these improvements as an alternative to the > ?retro? > > clocks that are mostly available. > > > > The clock itself is basic?just time, day, and date. It?s designed to sit > in the > > corner of your screen and float over everything else. > > > > But you can modify the *look* of the clock in many ways, by using > different > > fonts and by modifying the clock and background colors. Other visual > options > > include adding a border, using rounded corners, drop shadows and inner > > shadows. > > > > The clock is also infinitely resizable so you can make it any size you > need to fit > > in your work area. > > > > Because there can be so many visual options, there is also a mechanism to > > save your favorites designs and call them up later. > > > > You can see the features of BasicClock here: BasicClock Read Me.pdf > > <http://designeq.com/deq/software/Welcome%20to%20BasicClock%20V2.0 > > 4.pdf> > > > > and download it here: BasicClock V2.04.zip > > <http://designeq.com/deq/software/BasicClock%20V2.04.app.zip> > > > > Note that you might have to ?allow? this clock to run in the Security & > Privacy > > control panel if you have Gatekeeper running on your Mac. > > > > BasicClock is free and currently runs only under OS X. > > > > Enjoy. > > > > (BasicClock was inspired by the Clearview desktop clock by Hugh Senior.) > > -- > > Regards, > > > > Howard Bornstein > > --- > > www.designeq.com > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Free BasicClock desktop clock for OSX
So many clocks today still employ the flip-clock or 7-segment LED display aesthetic that is at least 20 years old. Given that we now have high resolution displays and very high-quality fonts available, I wanted to make a simple clock that took advantage of these improvements as an alternative to the “retro” clocks that are mostly available. The clock itself is basic—just time, day, and date. It’s designed to sit in the corner of your screen and float over everything else. But you can modify the *look* of the clock in many ways, by using different fonts and by modifying the clock and background colors. Other visual options include adding a border, using rounded corners, drop shadows and inner shadows. The clock is also infinitely resizable so you can make it any size you need to fit in your work area. Because there can be so many visual options, there is also a mechanism to save your favorites designs and call them up later. You can see the features of BasicClock here: BasicClock Read Me.pdf <http://designeq.com/deq/software/Welcome%20to%20BasicClock%20V2.04.pdf> and download it here: BasicClock V2.04.zip <http://designeq.com/deq/software/BasicClock%20V2.04.app.zip> Note that you might have to “allow” this clock to run in the Security & Privacy control panel if you have Gatekeeper running on your Mac. BasicClock is free and currently runs only under OS X. Enjoy. (BasicClock was inspired by the Clearview desktop clock by Hugh Senior.) -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects
Thanks. I get it now. I had used a black to white gradient, but white to white gives a better feather result. What do you have the blending ink set to? On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Scott Rossi <sc...@tactilemedia.com> wrote: > Hi Howard: > > I was referring to the opacity of the inner color stop of the gradient. > Use two colors in the radial gradient, such as white to white, and set the > opacity of the color stop assigned to the inner color of the gradient to 0. > > The result looks like this: > http://tactilemedia.com/download/gradient-feather.jpg > > You can also pull in the position of the outer color stop so you get more > blending at the edge of the oval shape. > > Regards, > > Scott Rossi > Creative Director > Tactile Media, UX/UI Design > > > > > On 2/4/16, 11:28 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein" > <use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of > bornst...@designeq.com> wrote: > > >Scott, > > > >I don't quite follow this. I made an oval graphic, set up a radial > >gradient > >with both colors set to white and made the fill color clear (is this what > >you mean by the inner color?—nothing shows at all if you set the opaque to > >false). I got a radial gradient that covered the image, but I'm not sure > >how you make that a mask that feathers the image. What blending ink did > >you > >use? Are you using any graphic effects? What am I not understanding here? > > > >On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:03 PM, Scott Rossi <sc...@tactilemedia.com> > >wrote: > > > >> I'm guessing you guys want the final result to be rectangular and not > >> oval-shaped. That's too bad because you could use a radial gradient > >>using > >> a single color (i.e. white to white) in a graphic with the inner color > >>set > >> to 100% transparent -- this makes a near-perfect mask but only in oval > >> shape. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Scott Rossi > >> Creative Director > >> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 2/3/16, 9:50 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein" > >> <use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of > >> bornst...@designeq.com> wrote: > >> > >> >>You can achieve a feather effect using multiple objects stacked on > >>top of > >> >>each other, but then you have to ask is that worth doing. If you > >>have to > >> >>do anything with the set of objects, such as move it around or scale > >>it, > >> >>then the effect is probably too much trouble, especially on mobile. > >> >> > >> > > >> >This is how we did it‹using multiple graphic objects stacked. However, > >>I > >> >used a gradient for each edge and used Outer Glow. I think it would be > >>a > >> >lot of work to script this for general work but Brahmanathaswami seems > >>to > >> >think it will be worthwhile to try it. I'm interested to see what he > >>comes > >> >up with. > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> use-livecode mailing list > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >> subscription preferences: > >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > >> > > > > > > > >-- > >Regards, > > > >Howard Bornstein > >--- > >www.designeq.com > >___ > >use-livecode mailing list > >use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >subscription preferences: > >http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects
Scott, I don't quite follow this. I made an oval graphic, set up a radial gradient with both colors set to white and made the fill color clear (is this what you mean by the inner color?—nothing shows at all if you set the opaque to false). I got a radial gradient that covered the image, but I'm not sure how you make that a mask that feathers the image. What blending ink did you use? Are you using any graphic effects? What am I not understanding here? On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:03 PM, Scott Rossi <sc...@tactilemedia.com> wrote: > I'm guessing you guys want the final result to be rectangular and not > oval-shaped. That's too bad because you could use a radial gradient using > a single color (i.e. white to white) in a graphic with the inner color set > to 100% transparent -- this makes a near-perfect mask but only in oval > shape. > > Regards, > > Scott Rossi > Creative Director > Tactile Media, UX/UI Design > > > > > On 2/3/16, 9:50 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein" > <use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of > bornst...@designeq.com> wrote: > > >>You can achieve a feather effect using multiple objects stacked on top of > >>each other, but then you have to ask is that worth doing. If you have to > >>do anything with the set of objects, such as move it around or scale it, > >>then the effect is probably too much trouble, especially on mobile. > >> > > > >This is how we did it‹using multiple graphic objects stacked. However, I > >used a gradient for each edge and used Outer Glow. I think it would be a > >lot of work to script this for general work but Brahmanathaswami seems to > >think it will be worthwhile to try it. I'm interested to see what he comes > >up with. > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects
As did I. What happened when you set the linesize to 0? On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Devin Asay <devin_a...@byu.edu> wrote: > > > On Feb 1, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Howard Bornstein <bornst...@designeq.com> > wrote: > > > > If you set the line size to 0, the outer glow disappears. > > For what kind of object? I tested it on a graphic object. > > Devin > > Devin Asay > Office of Digital Humanities > Brigham Young University > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects
Yes this is true and understood. However, I've been working with Brahmanathswami to find a solution for a transparent object because, as he says, "Any inner glow or outer glow leaves a sharp edge on the object no matter what we do." (with an opaque object) He was looking for a way to feather images within LC and an opaque graphic object won't do that (as far as I can tell). On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Terry Judd <terry.j...@unimelb.edu.au> wrote: > Hi Howard - the outerglow (and innerglow) of an object display fine for me > on both a field and an (and this bit is important) *opaque* graphic object > when their borderWidth and lineSize properties are respectively set to 0. > > Terry... > > On 4/02/2016 11:26 am, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein" > <use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of > bornst...@designeq.com> wrote: > > >As did I. What happened when you set the linesize to 0? > > > >On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Devin Asay <devin_a...@byu.edu> wrote: > > > >> > >> > On Feb 1, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Howard Bornstein <bornst...@designeq.com > > > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > If you set the line size to 0, the outer glow disappears. > >> > >> For what kind of object? I tested it on a graphic object. > >> > >> Devin > >> > >> Devin Asay > >> Office of Digital Humanities > >> Brigham Young University > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> use-livecode mailing list > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >> subscription preferences: > >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > >> > > > > > > > >-- > >Regards, > > > >Howard Bornstein > >--- > >www.designeq.com > >___ > >use-livecode mailing list > >use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >subscription preferences: > >http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects
> > You can achieve a feather effect using multiple objects stacked on top of > each other, but then you have to ask is that worth doing. If you have to > do anything with the set of objects, such as move it around or scale it, > then the effect is probably too much trouble, especially on mobile. > This is how we did it—using multiple graphic objects stacked. However, I used a gradient for each edge and used Outer Glow. I think it would be a lot of work to script this for general work but Brahmanathaswami seems to think it will be worthwhile to try it. I'm interested to see what he comes up with. You can create a feather effect by grouping the source image with a mask > image that contains a painted rectangular inner glow effect. If you set > the centerRect of the mask image to appropriate dimensions (the radius of > glow at each corner of the image), you can resize the group and keep the > glow effect intact with no loss of quality. > I couldn't get this to look anything like feathering because it always had a hard edge. Maybe that is because of the weakness of the inner glow? > FYI, you can create a transparent graphic with innerGlow using an ink > effect. For example, set the backColor of the graphic to black, apply a > white innerGlow (255 opacity), and set the ink of the graphic to > blendScreen. This will make all black in the graphic transparent while > keeping the white intact. But again, the innerGlow is fairly weak. > I couldn't get this to work at all. When I set the blending ink to BlendScreen, the black graphic became completely transparent, regardless of the inner glow settings. FWIW, I was able to easily create a feathered image for an oval or circular feather with one graphic object. To do it for a rectangle, took 4 graphic objects. In each case, we used Outer Glow with a gradient—radial for the oval, linear for the rectangle. > Regards, > > Scott Rossi > Creative Director > Tactile Media, UX/UI Design > > > > > On 2/3/16, 7:38 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein" > <use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of > bornst...@designeq.com> wrote: > > >Yes this is true and understood. However, I've been working with > >Brahmanathswami to find a solution for a transparent object because, as he > >says, "Any inner glow or outer glow leaves a sharp edge on the object no > >matter what we do." (with an opaque object) > > > >He was looking for a way to feather images within LC and an opaque graphic > >object won't do that (as far as I can tell). > > > >On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Terry Judd <terry.j...@unimelb.edu.au> > >wrote: > > > >> Hi Howard - the outerglow (and innerglow) of an object display fine for > >>me > >> on both a field and an (and this bit is important) *opaque* graphic > >>object > >> when their borderWidth and lineSize properties are respectively set to > >>0. > >> > >> Terry... > >> > >> On 4/02/2016 11:26 am, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein" > >> <use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of > >> bornst...@designeq.com> wrote: > >> > >> >As did I. What happened when you set the linesize to 0? > >> > > >> >On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Devin Asay <devin_a...@byu.edu> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> > >> >> > On Feb 1, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Howard Bornstein > >><bornst...@designeq.com > >> > > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > If you set the line size to 0, the outer glow disappears. > >> >> > >> >> For what kind of object? I tested it on a graphic object. > >> >> > >> >> Devin > >> >> > >> >> Devin Asay > >> >> Office of Digital Humanities > >> >> Brigham Young University > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ___ > >> >> use-livecode mailing list > >> >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >> >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >> >> subscription preferences: > >> >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >-- > >> >Regards, > >> > > >> >Howard Bornstein > >> >--- > >> >www.designeq.com > >> >___ > >> >u
Re: Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:45 PM, Terry Judd <terry.j...@unimelb.edu.au> wrote: > OK, what about thisŠ > > Transparent (non opaque) graphic object with a 1 pixel linesize. Apply an > outer glow - this will display equally on either side of the border. Then > alter the border colour to match the glow where it adjoins the border. The > border Œdisappears¹ but it may or may not simulate the effect you are > looking for. > This is exactly what I did and it works pretty well. Unfortunately, while it works fine for creating a feathered rectangle (or oval), it doesn't really work for feathering an image, because you don't want the glow to be on the inside of the image. > > Terry... > > On 4/02/2016 3:44 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Scott Rossi" > <use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of > sc...@tactilemedia.com> wrote: > > >The way one *should* be able to do this is using the innerGlow effect. > >However, by itself, using the basic setting is not strong enough, and the > >spread effect is backwards (increases outward, rather than inward -- bug) > >so that's useless. > > > >You can achieve a feather effect using multiple objects stacked on top of > >each other, but then you have to ask is that worth doing. If you have to > >do anything with the set of objects, such as move it around or scale it, > >then the effect is probably too much trouble, especially on mobile. > > > >You can create a feather effect by grouping the source image with a mask > >image that contains a painted rectangular inner glow effect. If you set > >the centerRect of the mask image to appropriate dimensions (the radius of > >glow at each corner of the image), you can resize the group and keep the > >glow effect intact with no loss of quality. > > > >FYI, you can create a transparent graphic with innerGlow using an ink > >effect. For example, set the backColor of the graphic to black, apply a > >white innerGlow (255 opacity), and set the ink of the graphic to > >blendScreen. This will make all black in the graphic transparent while > >keeping the white intact. But again, the innerGlow is fairly weak. > > > >Regards, > > > >Scott Rossi > >Creative Director > >Tactile Media, UX/UI Design > > > > > > > > > >On 2/3/16, 7:38 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein" > ><use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of > >bornst...@designeq.com> wrote: > > > >>Yes this is true and understood. However, I've been working with > >>Brahmanathswami to find a solution for a transparent object because, as > >>he > >>says, "Any inner glow or outer glow leaves a sharp edge on the object no > >>matter what we do." (with an opaque object) > >> > >>He was looking for a way to feather images within LC and an opaque > >>graphic > >>object won't do that (as far as I can tell). > >> > >>On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Terry Judd <terry.j...@unimelb.edu.au> > >>wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Howard - the outerglow (and innerglow) of an object display fine for > >>>me > >>> on both a field and an (and this bit is important) *opaque* graphic > >>>object > >>> when their borderWidth and lineSize properties are respectively set to > >>>0. > >>> > >>> Terry... > >>> > >>> On 4/02/2016 11:26 am, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein" > >>> <use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of > >>> bornst...@designeq.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> >As did I. What happened when you set the linesize to 0? > >>> > > >>> >On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Devin Asay <devin_a...@byu.edu> > >>>wrote: > >>> > > >>> >> > >>> >> > On Feb 1, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Howard Bornstein > >>><bornst...@designeq.com > >>> > > >>> >> wrote: > >>> >> > > >>> >> > If you set the line size to 0, the outer glow disappears. > >>> >> > >>> >> For what kind of object? I tested it on a graphic object. > >>> >> > >>> >> Devin > >>> >> > >>> >> Devin Asay > >>> >> Office of Digital Humanities > >>> >> Brigham Young University > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> _
Re: Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects
If you set the line size to 0, the outer glow disappears. On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Devin Asay <devin_a...@byu.edu> wrote: > > > On Jan 30, 2016, at 9:02 PM, Terry Judd <terry.j...@unimelb.edu.au> > wrote: > > > > On 31/01/2016 1:56 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Sannyasin > > Brahmanathaswami" <use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of > > bra...@hindu.org> wrote: > > > >> Does anyone have any method to ³feather² the edges of a fld, rect or > grc? > >> > >> Any inner glow or outer glow leaves a sharp edge on the object no matter > >> what we do. > >> > >> Any options there? > > > > Even if you use both inner and outer glow in combination with no object > > boder? > > I would try Terry’s approach. User outer glow, but set the lineSize to 0. > Use the same color for the object fill and the outer glow color. > > Devin > > Devin Asay > Office of Digital Humanities > Brigham Young University > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Checkboxs
if you mean the label of the checkbox (when you first pull a check box on to a stack it is labeled "Check"), then simply use the object inspector and at the basic properties tab, you can change the word to anything you want. If that isn't what you are trying to do, please explain with a little more detail. On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:43 AM, joel antonio jocobi rios < joel_joc...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > good morning > my name is joel rios Jocobi > I've been working with LiveCode and I've run into a little problem I could > not solve , I tried to change the text that shows the checks that is the > label property but have not found a way , I ask you to please if you can > help me with this, thanks in advance .. > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Handy LiveCode Keyboard Shortcut Cards
Lol, me neither. However, they do appear in the Debug menu within LC. On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 1:32 PM, AndyP <smudge.a...@googlemail.com> wrote: > H Howard, thanks for these. > > Where did you find them documented.. I haven't seen them in LiveCode docs > before? > > > > > > - > Andy Piddock > > > My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. > > Copy the new cloud space, get your free 15GB space now: > Get Copy > > > Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk > > PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour picker > / finder. > http://www.pointandsee.co.uk - made with LiveCode > -- > View this message in context: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Handy-LiveCode-Keyboard-Shortcut-Cards-tp4698936p4698955.html > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Handy LiveCode Keyboard Shortcut Cards
Very nice. You might want to add the following shortcuts to the debugger section: Step Into: Cmd-I Step Over: Cmd-O Step Out: Cmd-T Stop: Cmd-Y Run: Cmd-> Toggle Breakpoint: Cmd-\ On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Roger Guay <i...@mac.com> wrote: > Nice, Andy. Thank you! I might put them into a neat little stack for ready > reference. > > > > On Nov 22, 2015, at 8:17 AM, AndyP <smudge.a...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > I’m starting to use the keyboard shortcuts more and more so decided to > make > > them a little more accessible as quick reference cards for my own use and > > thought that others may find them useful. > > > > View and download from my Freebies <http://2108.co.uk/freebies/> > page. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > Andy Piddock > > > > > > My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. > > > > Copy the new cloud space, get your free 15GB space now: > > Get Copy > > > > > > Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk > > > > PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour > picker / finder. > > http://www.pointandsee.co.uk - made with LiveCode > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Handy-LiveCode-Keyboard-Shortcut-Cards-tp4698936.html > > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > _______ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Keeping a fixed aspect ratio while resizing a stack
I would like to let users of my stack resize it while keeping a fixed aspect ratio of the stack. As far as I have been able to find, this is not possible. There doesn't seem to be any way to constrain a stack while it is being resized. Putting statements in the resizestack handler to accomplish this do bad things. I can change the size of the stack to reflect the aspect ratio I want *after* the resize is done, but not during. I just wanted to see if anyone had found a way to do this. As an additional thought, I see that LC *does* allow this option if you hold down the shift-key while resizing the stack (shift-drag also keeps the aspect ratio of certain objects during a resize). Is this a feature of LC itself or is LC simply using an OS capability (I'm running under OS X) to handle this? Would there be a way to tap into LC's ability to constrain the stack resizing? The only other way I can think of is to somehow simulate the pressing of the shift key while resizing is taking place, but I don't see any way to do this either. Any insight would be appreciated. -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Keeping a fixed aspect ratio while resizing a stack
Thank you Scott! Brilliant using mousemove for this. And what amazed me is that when I included "resizestack" within your script, it called my resizestack handler and let me do live resizing of the stack while keeping the proper aspect ratio! Wow, I'm impressed! On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Scott Rossi <sc...@tactilemedia.com> wrote: > Try this (in your message box): > > go url "http://tactilemedia.com/download/constrained.livecode; > > > Regards, > > Scott Rossi > Creative Director > Tactile Media, UX/UI Design > > > > > On 11/20/15, 2:24 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein" > <use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of > bornst...@designeq.com> wrote: > > >I would like to let users of my stack resize it while keeping a fixed > >aspect ratio of the stack. As far as I have been able to find, this is not > >possible. There doesn't seem to be any way to constrain a stack while it > >is > >being resized. Putting statements in the resizestack handler to accomplish > >this do bad things. I can change the size of the stack to reflect the > >aspect ratio I want *after* the resize is done, but not during. > > > >I just wanted to see if anyone had found a way to do this. As an > >additional > >thought, I see that LC *does* allow this option if you hold down the > >shift-key while resizing the stack (shift-drag also keeps the aspect ratio > >of certain objects during a resize). > > > >Is this a feature of LC itself or is LC simply using an OS capability (I'm > >running under OS X) to handle this? > > > >Would there be a way to tap into LC's ability to constrain the stack > >resizing? The only other way I can think of is to somehow simulate the > >pressing of the shift key while resizing is taking place, but I don't see > >any way to do this either. > > > >Any insight would be appreciated. > > > >-- > >Regards, > > > >Howard Bornstein > >--- > >www.designeq.com > >___ > >use-livecode mailing list > >use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >subscription preferences: > >http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Search and Replace in Script Editor: Cannot invoke "Replace All"
I'm not seeing the dialog you mentioned but ran into this problem with Replace and Replace All yesterday. Didn't this also used to work for all the other "Look In" options? Btw, I'm using LC 6.7.5. On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Ray <r...@linkit.com> wrote: > The options mentioned below work for me, but for some reason every time I > choose "Current Tab" in the Look In pull-down, for example, I get a > slightly annoying dialog window which displays my choice "Current Tab" > which I have to dismiss. I saw and agree with the post on etiquette > yesterday but I believe this question would fall under this same subject > matter. Does anybody else experience this unnecessary dialog? > > > On 9/29/15 2:12 AM, Dick Kriesel wrote: > >> Expected behavior “Replace All” button should be enabled after the find >>> runs >>> >>> What happened: it remains dimmed >>> >>> Aloha, BR. >> >> "Change all" requires "Look in: Current Tab" or "Look in: All Tabs" for >> me. >> >> Do those options work for you? >> >> — Dick >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > > > _______ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: 'Quit' mystery
In my case, my second stack *was* a substack and quit still didn't work. On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 9:42 PM, J. Landman Gay <jac...@hyperactivesw.com> wrote: > That's what I suspected; the stacks aren't actually substacks. Now it > makes sense. Thanks for the clarification. > > On 11/11/2015 10:59 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote: > >> The dictionary says this (from LC 6.7.5): >> >> In standalones, some care is needed to ensure you receive the >> *shutdownRequest* message if your application uses multiple stacks. The >> >> most reliable approach is to install a library stack or backscript to >> handle the message when your application starts up. >> >> I couldn't get this to work, so I went with Martin Koob's solution, which >> did work. Note that this refers to multi-stack standalones. >> >> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 7:51 PM, J. Landman Gay <jac...@hyperactivesw.com >> > >> wrote: >> >> On 11/11/2015 7:54 PM, Mark Smith wrote: >>> >>> is it not the case that the message path goes from substacks >>>> to the main stack? If so, should not a "shutdownRequest" message not >>>> handled >>>> in a sub stack be passed up the message path to the main stack? In which >>>> case you don't need shutdownRequests in each sub, just in the main? >>>> >>>> >>> Yes, that's how it should work. I've been wondering why the extra >>> handlers >>> in substacks were required, I've never needed to do that and my apps have >>> always quit. I'd say go with the simpler solution and if that doesn't >>> work >>> then we can figure out why. >>> >>> -- >>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com >>> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >>> >> >> >> > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: 'Quit' mystery
The dictionary says this (from LC 6.7.5): In standalones, some care is needed to ensure you receive the *shutdownRequest* message if your application uses multiple stacks. The most reliable approach is to install a library stack or backscript to handle the message when your application starts up. I couldn't get this to work, so I went with Martin Koob's solution, which did work. Note that this refers to multi-stack standalones. On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 7:51 PM, J. Landman Gay <jac...@hyperactivesw.com> wrote: > On 11/11/2015 7:54 PM, Mark Smith wrote: > >> is it not the case that the message path goes from substacks >> to the main stack? If so, should not a "shutdownRequest" message not >> handled >> in a sub stack be passed up the message path to the main stack? In which >> case you don't need shutdownRequests in each sub, just in the main? >> > > Yes, that's how it should work. I've been wondering why the extra handlers > in substacks were required, I've never needed to do that and my apps have > always quit. I'd say go with the simpler solution and if that doesn't work > then we can figure out why. > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Overriding system shortcuts in OSX
I saw this when I tried to assign Cmd-H to a menu item. It simply did not show up in the menu because Apple uses Cmd-H to hide the current application. Even assuming that Apple traps the Quit command and handles it, when I assigned Cmd-Q with a multi-stack stand alone, it didn't work. I had to use the solution proposed by Martin Koob: Each of the substacks' scripts have a shutdownRequest handler but not a 'pass shutdownRequest' command. This handler sends a prepareToQuit command to the main card of the main stack. substack stack script --- on shutdownRequest send "preparetoquit" to card "main" of stack "mainstack" end shutdownRequest -- The main card of the main stack has the prepareToQuit handler which just has a quit command. This triggers the shutdownRequest handler in the main card. This shutdownRequest handler has all of the code you want implemented before quitting. This handler has the 'pass shutdownRequest' command that allows the application to quit. Mainstack >card "main" script --- on preparetoquit quit end preparetoquit on shutdownRequest pass shutdownRequest end shutdownRequest On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Bob Sneidar <bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com> wrote: > Oddly, when I have a Quit command in a custom menu, the option does not > show up. I think this is because the Livecode menu has a Quit option > already, which when using the browse tool will hilite when pressing CMD-Q, > but will not actually quit. I have not tested this in a standalone yet. > > I have no shutDownRequest commands in my scripts. > > Bob S > > > On Nov 7, 2015, at 10:54 , J. Landman Gay <jac...@hyperactivesw.com > <mailto:jac...@hyperactivesw.com>> wrote: > > OS X traps and responds to its own system-wide shortcuts and does not pass > them on to the app, so LC won't know about those. > > But Cmd-Q behaves slightly differently. OS X does notify the app so it can > put up save dialogs or do other housekeeping. If Cmd-Q isn't working, then > there is probably something in your app that prevents it from quitting, > like pending messages, open drivers, not passing "shutdownRequest", etc. > > On 11/6/2015 4:20 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > It's my understanding that with OS X you cannot do this. I would like to > make a quit hotkey so users can quit my application, but I cannot seem to > get that to work. > > Bob S > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Overriding system shortcuts in OSX
Thanks, Jacq, This is helpful. On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 7:45 PM, J. Landman Gay <jac...@hyperactivesw.com> wrote: > On 11/7/2015 2:23 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote: > >> Do you know which system-wide shortcuts OS X traps? Cmd-H is the one I >> found (Hide Apps) and Cmd-Q (for which there is a LC solution). I'm >> wondering which other ones we might get stung on. Are you aware of a list >> of these traps? >> > > Apple has a list here: > <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201236> > > You'll probably be able to recognize the ones that LC supports. The ones > that are system-wide will override; for example, Cmd-M is going to minimize > to the dock, Cmd-spacebar is going to give you Spotlight. > > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Overriding system shortcuts in OSX
Do you know which system-wide shortcuts OS X traps? Cmd-H is the one I found (Hide Apps) and Cmd-Q (for which there is a LC solution). I'm wondering which other ones we might get stung on. Are you aware of a list of these traps? On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 10:54 AM, J. Landman Gay <jac...@hyperactivesw.com> wrote: > OS X traps and responds to its own system-wide shortcuts and does not pass > them on to the app, so LC won't know about those. > > But Cmd-Q behaves slightly differently. OS X does notify the app so it can > put up save dialogs or do other housekeeping. If Cmd-Q isn't working, then > there is probably something in your app that prevents it from quitting, > like pending messages, open drivers, not passing "shutdownRequest", etc. > > > On 11/6/2015 4:20 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > >> It's my understanding that with OS X you cannot do this. I would like to >> make a quit hotkey so users can quit my application, but I cannot seem to >> get that to work. >> >> Bob S >> >> >> On Nov 6, 2015, at 13:56 , Howard Bornstein <bornst...@designeq.com >> <mailto:bornst...@designeq.com>> wrote: >> >> I want to command-H for a menu item in my standalone, but it doesn't work >> because the system uses command-H for Hide Application. Even though I've >> assigned this shortcut to a menu item, it is ignored and the system >> command >> is used instead. >> >> It seems like this should be simple but I can't figure out how to get >> around this problem. Is there a way to override system shortcuts in an OSX >> standalone application? >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Howard Bornstein >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >> > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > > > _______ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Overriding system shortcuts in OSX
Is there a list of system shortcuts that can't be overridden? When you say you want to make a quit hotkey, do you mean you want to assign command-Q to a menu item? On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Bob Sneidar <bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com> wrote: > It's my understanding that with OS X you cannot do this. I would like to > make a quit hotkey so users can quit my application, but I cannot seem to > get that to work. > > Bob S > > > On Nov 6, 2015, at 13:56 , Howard Bornstein <bornst...@designeq.com > <mailto:bornst...@designeq.com>> wrote: > > I want to command-H for a menu item in my standalone, but it doesn't work > because the system uses command-H for Hide Application. Even though I've > assigned this shortcut to a menu item, it is ignored and the system command > is used instead. > > It seems like this should be simple but I can't figure out how to get > around this problem. Is there a way to override system shortcuts in an OSX > standalone application? > > -- > Regards, > > Howard Bornstein > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Overriding system shortcuts in OSX
After some difficulty, I've been able to get Quit to work, but the command-Q part is handled by the system. What are you trying to do? On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Bob Sneidar <bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com> wrote: > Yes. You can assign it, but it does nothing. > > Bob S > > > On Nov 6, 2015, at 14:30 , Howard Bornstein <bornst...@designeq.com > <mailto:bornst...@designeq.com>> wrote: > > Is there a list of system shortcuts that can't be overridden? When you say > you want to make a quit hotkey, do you mean you want to assign command-Q to > a menu item? > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Overriding system shortcuts in OSX
I want to command-H for a menu item in my standalone, but it doesn't work because the system uses command-H for Hide Application. Even though I've assigned this shortcut to a menu item, it is ignored and the system command is used instead. It seems like this should be simple but I can't figure out how to get around this problem. Is there a way to override system shortcuts in an OSX standalone application? -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: 'Quit' mystery
I've updated the bug report with Martin's solution in case anyone else runs into this. On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 5:20 AM, paolo mazza <mazzapaoloit...@gmail.com> wrote: > Nearly 1 year ago I posted this > http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14263 . > It was confirmed but probably it has not been fixed yet. > All the best, > Paolo > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 4:47 AM, Howard Bornstein <bornst...@designeq.com> > wrote: > > This really helped me out. Thanks Martin! I couldn't get my standalone to > > quit no matter what. This did the trick. > > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Martin Koob <mk...@rogers.com> wrote: > > > >> Hi > >> > >> It has been a long time since I set this up in my application so I don't > >> remember exactly the logic as to why I set this up this way but it > seems to > >> work. The main stack has several substacks which may be open when quit > is > >> selected from the menu. > >> > >> Each of the substacks' scripts have a shutdownRequest handler but not a > >> 'pass shutdownRequest' command. This handler sends a prepareToQuit > command > >> to the main card of the main stack. > >> > >> substack stack script > >> --- > >> on shutdownRequest > >>send "preparetoquit" to card "main" of stack "mainstack" > >> end shutdownRequest > >> -- > >> The main card of the main stack has the prepareToQuit handler which just > >> has > >> a quit command. This triggers the shutdownRequest handler in the main > >> card. > >> This shutdownRequest handler has all of the code you want implemented > >> before > >> quitting. This handler has the 'pass shutdownRequest' command that > allows > >> the application to quit. > >> > >> Mainstack >card "main" script > >> --- > >> on preparetoquit > >> quit > >> end preparetoquit > >> > >> on shutdownRequest > >> > >> > >> pass shutdownRequest > >> end shutdownRequest > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> View this message in context: > >> > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Quit-mystery-tp4672924p4672933.html > >> Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >> > >> ___ > >> use-livecode mailing list > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >> subscription preferences: > >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > > > Howard Bornstein > > --- > > www.designeq.com > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: 'Quit' mystery
This really helped me out. Thanks Martin! I couldn't get my standalone to quit no matter what. This did the trick. On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Martin Koob <mk...@rogers.com> wrote: > Hi > > It has been a long time since I set this up in my application so I don't > remember exactly the logic as to why I set this up this way but it seems to > work. The main stack has several substacks which may be open when quit is > selected from the menu. > > Each of the substacks' scripts have a shutdownRequest handler but not a > 'pass shutdownRequest' command. This handler sends a prepareToQuit command > to the main card of the main stack. > > substack stack script > --- > on shutdownRequest >send "preparetoquit" to card "main" of stack "mainstack" > end shutdownRequest > -- > The main card of the main stack has the prepareToQuit handler which just > has > a quit command. This triggers the shutdownRequest handler in the main > card. > This shutdownRequest handler has all of the code you want implemented > before > quitting. This handler has the 'pass shutdownRequest' command that allows > the application to quit. > > Mainstack >card "main" script > --- > on preparetoquit > quit > end preparetoquit > > on shutdownRequest > > > pass shutdownRequest > end shutdownRequest > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Quit-mystery-tp4672924p4672933.html > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Status of on-rev restore?
I've tried with both SSL/port 995 and plain port 110. I'm sending a copy of my mail setting to support to see if they can determine why Apple Mail won't pull down the mail that is clearly on the server. On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 11:18 PM, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Hi Howard, just a shot in the dark, but maybe the SAGE server accept only ssl/tls connections. So you could try to change the account settings in your email client. change the ports and select ssl or tls. It depends on your mail client which option it shows. Change the pop3 port from 110 to 995 (if you are using pop3 to fetch you email) imap port from 143 to 993 (if you are using imap) smtp port from 25 to 587 Matthias Am 08.05.2015 um 01:12 schrieb Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com : Thanks Matthias, I am on Sage and, interestingly, now I can get my email via the web-email interface. But still nothing via my email client. Now I have to see where it may be configured wrongly, although I haven't changed anything since before when it was working (I did change my password, but just made sure it was changed on the server via cpanel), but still no luck. On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Hi Howard, if you want to get to know on which server you are hosted, just open your website url with :2083 to open cpanel. e.g. http://YOURACCOUNTNAME.on-rev.com:2083 You will then forwarded to the appropriate server and the url in the browser address field changes to SERVERNAME.on-rev.com:2083. Matthias Am 07.05.2015 um 23:32 schrieb Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com : Hi Matthias, Yes, I've had my email checking both sage.on-rev.com and jasmine.on-rev.com (as well as pancake.on-rev.com) for several days. I can see that all my web pages have moved to sage and they are now displaying correctly (although I can't say for sure where they're being served from). It's my email, hosted on on-rev, that has been out pretty much consistently for 10 days (except when they used an old backup and I got 7000+ emails (mostly spam) redelivered. My gmail and icloud accounts are fine, so email in general is working. It's only my on-rev accounts that are broken. On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Howard, have you already tried to login in SAGE with your old login data? Did you try to change your mail server settings in your email client from pancake.on-rev.com to sage.on-rev.com? Give it a try. Maybe you will be successful. Matthias Am 07.05.2015 um 21:45 schrieb Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com : I've now been without reliable email for 10 days. A week ago I got this message: You are being moved to our new server, Sage. This is making good progress and we should have it up and running soon now. No word since then and no email. :-( On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Bruce Pokras bruc...@comcast.net wrote: I did not need a new ID or password to upload a large file to Sage yesterday. That was with the FTP app called “Transmit.” I just changed the server name that Transmit would upload to from pancake.on-rev.com http://pancake.on-rev.com/ to sage.on-rev.com http://sage.on-rev.com/ and it worked. So maybe try instead of waiting for an e-mail. On May 2, 2015, at 10:17 PM, Marc Siskin msis...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote: Does anyone have any additional information about what is being done, how long the outage is anticipated to last and what may or may not be lost in the restoration. Thank you, Marc Siskin On May 2, 2015, at 9:20 PM, Bruce Pokras bruc...@comcast.net mailto: bruc...@comcast.net wrote: I spoke to Heather. The problem was not individualized. It was the entire Pancake array. On May 2, 2015, at 3:59 PM, Dave Kilroy d...@applicationinsight.com mailto:d...@applicationinsight.com wrote: Mark, Andy maybe go back to on-rev.comhttp://on-rev.com and make another urgent report? It may be that Heather and David think there are no more bad accounts... - The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its limits. - Albert Einstein -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Status-of-on-rev-restore-tp4691765p4691775.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com http://Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.commailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode
Re: Status of on-rev restore?
I've now been without reliable email for 10 days. A week ago I got this message: You are being moved to our new server, Sage. This is making good progress and we should have it up and running soon now. No word since then and no email. :-( On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Bruce Pokras bruc...@comcast.net wrote: I did not need a new ID or password to upload a large file to Sage yesterday. That was with the FTP app called “Transmit.” I just changed the server name that Transmit would upload to from pancake.on-rev.com http://pancake.on-rev.com/ to sage.on-rev.com http://sage.on-rev.com/ and it worked. So maybe try instead of waiting for an e-mail. On May 2, 2015, at 10:17 PM, Marc Siskin msis...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote: Does anyone have any additional information about what is being done, how long the outage is anticipated to last and what may or may not be lost in the restoration. Thank you, Marc Siskin On May 2, 2015, at 9:20 PM, Bruce Pokras bruc...@comcast.netmailto: bruc...@comcast.net wrote: I spoke to Heather. The problem was not individualized. It was the entire Pancake array. On May 2, 2015, at 3:59 PM, Dave Kilroy d...@applicationinsight.com mailto:d...@applicationinsight.com wrote: Mark, Andy maybe go back to on-rev.comhttp://on-rev.com and make another urgent report? It may be that Heather and David think there are no more bad accounts... - The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its limits. - Albert Einstein -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Status-of-on-rev-restore-tp4691765p4691775.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com http://Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.commailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.commailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode --- Marc Siskin Manager, Modern Language Resource Center Carnegie Mellon University msis...@andrew.cmu.edumailto:msis...@andrew.cmu.edu ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Status of on-rev restore?
Thanks Matthias, I am on Sage and, interestingly, now I can get my email via the web-email interface. But still nothing via my email client. Now I have to see where it may be configured wrongly, although I haven't changed anything since before when it was working (I did change my password, but just made sure it was changed on the server via cpanel), but still no luck. On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Hi Howard, if you want to get to know on which server you are hosted, just open your website url with :2083 to open cpanel. e.g. http://YOURACCOUNTNAME.on-rev.com:2083 You will then forwarded to the appropriate server and the url in the browser address field changes to SERVERNAME.on-rev.com:2083. Matthias Am 07.05.2015 um 23:32 schrieb Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com : Hi Matthias, Yes, I've had my email checking both sage.on-rev.com and jasmine.on-rev.com (as well as pancake.on-rev.com) for several days. I can see that all my web pages have moved to sage and they are now displaying correctly (although I can't say for sure where they're being served from). It's my email, hosted on on-rev, that has been out pretty much consistently for 10 days (except when they used an old backup and I got 7000+ emails (mostly spam) redelivered. My gmail and icloud accounts are fine, so email in general is working. It's only my on-rev accounts that are broken. On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Howard, have you already tried to login in SAGE with your old login data? Did you try to change your mail server settings in your email client from pancake.on-rev.com to sage.on-rev.com? Give it a try. Maybe you will be successful. Matthias Am 07.05.2015 um 21:45 schrieb Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com : I've now been without reliable email for 10 days. A week ago I got this message: You are being moved to our new server, Sage. This is making good progress and we should have it up and running soon now. No word since then and no email. :-( On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Bruce Pokras bruc...@comcast.net wrote: I did not need a new ID or password to upload a large file to Sage yesterday. That was with the FTP app called “Transmit.” I just changed the server name that Transmit would upload to from pancake.on-rev.com http://pancake.on-rev.com/ to sage.on-rev.com http://sage.on-rev.com/ and it worked. So maybe try instead of waiting for an e-mail. On May 2, 2015, at 10:17 PM, Marc Siskin msis...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote: Does anyone have any additional information about what is being done, how long the outage is anticipated to last and what may or may not be lost in the restoration. Thank you, Marc Siskin On May 2, 2015, at 9:20 PM, Bruce Pokras bruc...@comcast.net mailto: bruc...@comcast.net wrote: I spoke to Heather. The problem was not individualized. It was the entire Pancake array. On May 2, 2015, at 3:59 PM, Dave Kilroy d...@applicationinsight.com mailto:d...@applicationinsight.com wrote: Mark, Andy maybe go back to on-rev.comhttp://on-rev.com and make another urgent report? It may be that Heather and David think there are no more bad accounts... - The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its limits. - Albert Einstein -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Status-of-on-rev-restore-tp4691765p4691775.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com http://Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.commailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.commailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode --- Marc Siskin Manager, Modern Language Resource Center Carnegie Mellon University msis...@andrew.cmu.edumailto:msis...@andrew.cmu.edu ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use
Re: Status of on-rev restore?
Hi Matthias, Yes, I've had my email checking both sage.on-rev.com and jasmine.on-rev.com (as well as pancake.on-rev.com) for several days. I can see that all my web pages have moved to sage and they are now displaying correctly (although I can't say for sure where they're being served from). It's my email, hosted on on-rev, that has been out pretty much consistently for 10 days (except when they used an old backup and I got 7000+ emails (mostly spam) redelivered. My gmail and icloud accounts are fine, so email in general is working. It's only my on-rev accounts that are broken. On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Howard, have you already tried to login in SAGE with your old login data? Did you try to change your mail server settings in your email client from pancake.on-rev.com to sage.on-rev.com? Give it a try. Maybe you will be successful. Matthias Am 07.05.2015 um 21:45 schrieb Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com : I've now been without reliable email for 10 days. A week ago I got this message: You are being moved to our new server, Sage. This is making good progress and we should have it up and running soon now. No word since then and no email. :-( On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Bruce Pokras bruc...@comcast.net wrote: I did not need a new ID or password to upload a large file to Sage yesterday. That was with the FTP app called “Transmit.” I just changed the server name that Transmit would upload to from pancake.on-rev.com http://pancake.on-rev.com/ to sage.on-rev.com http://sage.on-rev.com/ and it worked. So maybe try instead of waiting for an e-mail. On May 2, 2015, at 10:17 PM, Marc Siskin msis...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote: Does anyone have any additional information about what is being done, how long the outage is anticipated to last and what may or may not be lost in the restoration. Thank you, Marc Siskin On May 2, 2015, at 9:20 PM, Bruce Pokras bruc...@comcast.netmailto: bruc...@comcast.net wrote: I spoke to Heather. The problem was not individualized. It was the entire Pancake array. On May 2, 2015, at 3:59 PM, Dave Kilroy d...@applicationinsight.com mailto:d...@applicationinsight.com wrote: Mark, Andy maybe go back to on-rev.comhttp://on-rev.com and make another urgent report? It may be that Heather and David think there are no more bad accounts... - The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its limits. - Albert Einstein -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Status-of-on-rev-restore-tp4691765p4691775.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com http://Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.commailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.commailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode --- Marc Siskin Manager, Modern Language Resource Center Carnegie Mellon University msis...@andrew.cmu.edumailto:msis...@andrew.cmu.edu ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo
Re: Open application when file double clicked
Richard, Could you (with Bernd's permission) kindly post the code that made this all work correctly? Thanks. On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Even weirder: Offlist Bernd kindly sent an example of a stack similar to what's described below, but it works flawlessly. The only significant difference I could find was that his uses a custom document type, while I had use txt. So I went back to my test app, changed the document type from txt to a custom one, and now I get the odoc events both when files are dropped on the app to launch it and while the app is already running. This seems like a bug in the Finder more than LiveCode, some oddity in how AE works with well known file types. Since there doesn't appear to be any problem at all, I'm closing my bug report. And since there doesn't appear to be any problem at all, how did we wind up here? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com Wierdness abounds: I made a standalone with this card script: on startup insert script of btn fs into front end startup This script in a button fs: on appleEvent put the params cr the executionContexts crcr after fld 1 pass appleEvent end appleEvent And that same script in the stack. When I double-click the resulting app, I see: appleEvent aevt,oapp, button id 1007 of card id 1002 of stack /Users/rg/Desktop/ae tester/ae tester/ae tester.app/Contents/MacOS/ae tester,appleEvent,2 appleEvent aevt,oapp, stack /Users/rg/Desktop/ae tester/ae tester/ae tester.app/Contents/MacOS/ae tester,appleEvent,2 When I launch the app by dropping a text file onto it (I'd set it up to use TEXT/txt files) I get: appleEvent aevt,odoc, button id 1007 of card id 1002 of stack /Users/rg/Desktop/ae tester/ae tester/ae tester copy.app/Contents/MacOS/ae tester,appleEvent,2 appleEvent aevt,odoc, stack /Users/rg/Desktop/ae tester/ae tester/ae tester copy.app/Contents/MacOS/ae tester,appleEvent,2 But I get no oapp when I launch the app with a document, and I get no odoc when I launch the app without one. I've searched the LC scripts and this issue is different from the older one I'd experienced, since the other one was consistent and caused by a rev script. This one appears to be engine-level, in which only the first Apple event is processed, and subsequent ones ignored. Can anyone confirm this before I update my bug report? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web Ambassador at FourthWorld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Forum spam
Thanks Klaus! On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Klaus major-k kl...@major-k.de wrote: Hi Howard, Am 22.12.2014 um 00:12 schrieb Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com : I also received the same spam, although mine was from michaelrock. I forwarded it to Heather. Don't you have to be a registered user to be able to send PMs to another member? He was not listed in the member list today, so I don't know whether Heather removed him I did :-) or there is another way non-members can send PMs. Sorry, no idea, but I have an eye on the forum! Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major-k.de ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Forum spam
I also received the same spam, although mine was from michaelrock. I forwarded it to Heather. Don't you have to be a registered user to be able to send PMs to another member? He was not listed in the member list today, so I don't know whether Heather removed him or there is another way non-members can send PMs. On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Alex Shaw wrote: Just received forum spam! You have received a new private message from Michaelrork to your account on LiveCode Forums with the following subject: I looking for XRumer 12.0.9 with discount ! Based on what I read on the wikipedia entry on 'XRumer' the moderators may want to get onto this. Any account holder can turn off PMs for their account. I and the other mods remove spam in the forum whenever we find it (nixed two accounts just today), but we can't access your PMs. In recent months the number of spambots has dropped significantly, but if this becomes any sort of rampant problem we can review the possibility of shutting down the PM system altogether. We re-opened it by user request, though, so I'd be reluctant to do this unless it were absolutely necessary. -- Richard Gaskin LiveCode Community Manager rich...@livecode.org ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
Well, this is strange. I was checking out the color picker in Yosemite using TextEdit, which incidentally, doesn't have those Cancel and OK buttons, but has the dot to pull down the color dock. When I call up the color picker in LC, I get the same view as Geoff, with two lines of palette docks and no dot to extend the dock section. Unlike Roger, I couldn't find the sweet spot to make this work. Apparently, LC has modified the system color wheel to a certain extent. On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 11:21 AM, William de Smet williamdes...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Geoff, This is my ColorPicker. I only have one visible line. I am on Yosemite 10.10.1 with LC 6.6.5 on a 21,5 inch iMac. https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkqwsgvu6i5q7tz/ColorPickerYosemite.png?dl=0 greetings, William 2014-12-08 19:57 GMT+01:00 Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com: William, I'm with you: no small dot, no resizing -- vertically, at least -- I can make the color picker wider up to a point. Here's a link to a screen shot: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahzx78f6kzudgcl/Screenshot%202014-12-08%2013.56.46.png?dl=0 On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Poke around just between and above the Cancel and OK btns and you’ll find the sweet spot where the cursor turns to a hand. Roger On Dec 8, 2014, at 9:28 AM, William de Smet williamdes...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Can someone post a screenshot because I don't see a small dot on the Yosemite color picker. I am also stuck with one row of colors. Greetings, William 2014-12-08 8:17 GMT+01:00 Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com: I wouldn't have seen it myself if I hadn't used my large Holmesian magnifying glass.;-) On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Thank you Howard! There’s a tiny dot there that I had not noticed. You don’t know how many times I tried to pull down from every point other than that tiny dot to no avail. What a twit I am!! On Dec 7, 2014, at 3:16 PM, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com wrote: Just pull down from the bottom of the color picker patches and you'll get 10 rows, just like earlier versions. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Just the flatness of it, but more importantly, the limit of just one row of color patches. I was used to using multiple rows to record and manage multiple projects. I realize now that It’s no biggie, and I overreacted! I’ll build a better tool for what I need and offer to all to make up for petulance. Roger On Dec 7, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: How does the color picker look different to you? I'm on Yosemite and it looks the same as I remember: color picker choices across the top: color wheel (default), color sliders, etc.; then the color wheel itself below that; then the saturation slider below that; then the actual color selected and the saved colors below that; and finally the cancel and okay buttons below that. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: I’m sure the new color picker is totally Apple’s (Yosemite) fault, but I hate it? It’s ugly and not as functional as the old one. Is there anything I can do about it, like go back to the old one? TIA, Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
BTW, I'm on Yosemite 10.10 and LC 6.6.2. Maybe this is a function of version idiosyncrasies. On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com wrote: Here’s my screen grab clearly showing the dot. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/98788898/LiveCode/Screen%20Shot%202014-12-08%20at%2019.45.37.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/98788898/LiveCode/Screen%20Shot%202014-12-08%20at%2019.45.37.png All the best Terry On 8 Dec 2014, at 18:57, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: William, I'm with you: no small dot, no resizing -- vertically, at least -- I can make the color picker wider up to a point. Here's a link to a screen shot: ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
The only differences I see from the color wheel in Snow Leopard is that the selected color choice is a small square at the bottom in Yosemite with an eye dropper and it's a bar across the top in Snow Leopard with a magnifying glass. The Saturation slider is on the bottom in Yosemite and down the right side in Snow Leopard. The color selector cursor is a circle with cross hairs in Yosemite and a small square in Snow Leopard. That's basically it. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: How does the color picker look different to you? I'm on Yosemite and it looks the same as I remember: color picker choices across the top: color wheel (default), color sliders, etc.; then the color wheel itself below that; then the saturation slider below that; then the actual color selected and the saved colors below that; and finally the cancel and okay buttons below that. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: I’m sure the new color picker is totally Apple’s (Yosemite) fault, but I hate it? It’s ugly and not as functional as the old one. Is there anything I can do about it, like go back to the old one? TIA, Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
Just pull down from the bottom of the color picker patches and you'll get 10 rows, just like earlier versions. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Just the flatness of it, but more importantly, the limit of just one row of color patches. I was used to using multiple rows to record and manage multiple projects. I realize now that It’s no biggie, and I overreacted! I’ll build a better tool for what I need and offer to all to make up for petulance. Roger On Dec 7, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: How does the color picker look different to you? I'm on Yosemite and it looks the same as I remember: color picker choices across the top: color wheel (default), color sliders, etc.; then the color wheel itself below that; then the saturation slider below that; then the actual color selected and the saved colors below that; and finally the cancel and okay buttons below that. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: I’m sure the new color picker is totally Apple’s (Yosemite) fault, but I hate it? It’s ugly and not as functional as the old one. Is there anything I can do about it, like go back to the old one? TIA, Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I Hate the New Color Picker
I wouldn't have seen it myself if I hadn't used my large Holmesian magnifying glass.;-) On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Thank you Howard! There’s a tiny dot there that I had not noticed. You don’t know how many times I tried to pull down from every point other than that tiny dot to no avail. What a twit I am!! On Dec 7, 2014, at 3:16 PM, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com wrote: Just pull down from the bottom of the color picker patches and you'll get 10 rows, just like earlier versions. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: Just the flatness of it, but more importantly, the limit of just one row of color patches. I was used to using multiple rows to record and manage multiple projects. I realize now that It’s no biggie, and I overreacted! I’ll build a better tool for what I need and offer to all to make up for petulance. Roger On Dec 7, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: How does the color picker look different to you? I'm on Yosemite and it looks the same as I remember: color picker choices across the top: color wheel (default), color sliders, etc.; then the color wheel itself below that; then the saturation slider below that; then the actual color selected and the saved colors below that; and finally the cancel and okay buttons below that. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: I’m sure the new color picker is totally Apple’s (Yosemite) fault, but I hate it? It’s ugly and not as functional as the old one. Is there anything I can do about it, like go back to the old one? TIA, Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Does LC Have A touchLoc() Function?
Um, I believe mouseloc works in IOS. Or am I misunderstanding what you are asking for. On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: Does anyone know if LiveCode has touch-based function equivalent of mouseLoc? I'm thinking along the lines of touchLoc(id). I'm not seeing anything in dictionaries or release notes, but it's possible I'm missing it. Currently, there doesn't seem to be any way to poll the current active touches, which is something that has always been possible on desktop with the mouseLoc function. Using touchMove is not an option, because this only fires when there's movement of some kind. I'd like to open a feature request for a touchLoc(id) function that would return the loc of a touch id, and a touchLocs() function which would return all currently active touch ids and their locations. Unless this already exists, or there's some other way of getting this information and I'm just not seeing it. Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: couple of photospheres...
Nice On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: From the conference: https://www.google.com/maps/views/view/114217638380823763773/gphoto/6054689189803590450 https://www.google.com/maps/views/view/114217638380823763773/gphoto/6055347776837818594 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Oauth in Livecode?
And of course, there's this: http://lifehacker.com/security-flaw-found-in-oauth-and-openid-heres-what-it-1570872265 On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Dar Scott d...@swcp.com wrote: I’ve created an OAuth 1 in the past for Evernote all in LiveCode plus the favorite browser. So, it can be done, but I won’t say it is not hard. I did run into some OAuth 2 problems with a kiosk that connected to ConstantContact and used an alternate security. Those problems were related to the kiosk environment and the management console. In that one, I ended up using an alternative scheme. Dar Scott Controls, Libraries and Externals On May 5, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: OAuth 1.0 and 1.0a sucks! Horrible specs and hard to implement. On the other hand OAuth 2.0 is quite easy to implement. I've did that for Facebook Lib. Does the API you need has an OAuth 2.0 endpoint? On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Monk in Exile david.bov...@gmail.com wrote: Any updates on this - I've got a bunch of stuff that needs oAuth in various flavours. On 1 February 2014 04:36, Phil Davis rev...@pdslabs.net wrote: Hi Geoff, I'm currently working on a Vimeo code lib that includes Vimeo's OAuth 1.0a implementation to the extent it's needed for logging in and using parts of their Advanced API. ( https://developer.vimeo.com/apis/advanced ) I know Andre had hopes of creating a more generalized OAuth lib in the past, but I don't know if he plans to finish it. That's everything I know about the subject. Phil Davis On 1/31/14, 7:14 PM, Geoff Canyon wrote: I see references online to various efforts toward this, but I don't see any actual working code. Am I missing it? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Phil Davis ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Stupid simple version control using dropbox
Hi Geoff, I've been using Scott Rossi's trick of putting a player app in Dropbox and having it load in my current stack into IOS via a text link. ( http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2012-February/167981.html) It is so helpful to be able to make a change in my current app in the editor on my computer, save the stack to Dropbox, and have the changes immediately appear in my IOS app on my iPhone. However, I don't see the stack versioning you describe in any of my stack files on Dropbox. Is there something specific one needs to do in order to invoke this characteristic of Dropbox? -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 6:50 AM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure if this has been posted before, but just in case: If you store your stack files in the dropbox folder on your computer, dropbox does a really good job of saving a copy of each separate file whenever the file is saved. You can look at a list of the saved versions and get/restore any of them. It's not git, but as a file-level resource it's a 1000x better than nothing. I borked up some code last night (never try to solve a problem at 3am that stumped you at 9pm) so I'm really happy that I can just revert to the 9pm version and forget whatever it is I did later on. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Using the Find command in IOS
I have filed a bug report (*10978http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10978 *) about this issue. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.comwrote: Thanks for the response. That would be great but my testing does not support this. When I do a find of a field within a scroller group, the Find works, in that it finds the text and draws a box around it, but the field itself doesn't scroll (or at least it doesn't change the vscroll value of the field). I test the vscroll of the field after the Find and it is always zero. It does work as expected on the desktop but doesn't seem to actually scroll the field in the IOS environment. Do you have any idea why I am getting this result? On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 10:41 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: On 6/15/13 4:22 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote: The dictionary shows that the Find command is supported in IOS, but I can't seem to make it work as described. I want to find a string in a scrolling field and have the field scroll automatically to that string. It works fine on the desktop but doesn't scroll to the found line in the IOS field (although it *does* draw a box around the string, which I don't actually care about). I'm not doing anything with the vscroll property of the scrolling group the field is in, but as far as I can tell, I shouldn't have to. Is there a way to get Find to just scroll to the found string in an IOS text field? Is there more that is needed beside simply using the Find command? The field itself will scroll but that's all, you'll have to manage the group scroll yourself. If you're using a native iOS scroller you'll need to adjust that too. Probably the best way would be to note the starting scroll of the field before the find command, calculate the difference afterward, and then adjust the group and iOS scroller to the same amount. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Using the Find command in IOS
Thanks for the response. That would be great but my testing does not support this. When I do a find of a field within a scroller group, the Find works, in that it finds the text and draws a box around it, but the field itself doesn't scroll (or at least it doesn't change the vscroll value of the field). I test the vscroll of the field after the Find and it is always zero. It does work as expected on the desktop but doesn't seem to actually scroll the field in the IOS environment. Do you have any idea why I am getting this result? On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 10:41 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: On 6/15/13 4:22 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote: The dictionary shows that the Find command is supported in IOS, but I can't seem to make it work as described. I want to find a string in a scrolling field and have the field scroll automatically to that string. It works fine on the desktop but doesn't scroll to the found line in the IOS field (although it *does* draw a box around the string, which I don't actually care about). I'm not doing anything with the vscroll property of the scrolling group the field is in, but as far as I can tell, I shouldn't have to. Is there a way to get Find to just scroll to the found string in an IOS text field? Is there more that is needed beside simply using the Find command? The field itself will scroll but that's all, you'll have to manage the group scroll yourself. If you're using a native iOS scroller you'll need to adjust that too. Probably the best way would be to note the starting scroll of the field before the find command, calculate the difference afterward, and then adjust the group and iOS scroller to the same amount. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Kanji from a .csv file
I don't know what characters the field might throw away. So, putting the file into the field and then modifying the field seems scary to me. Maybe all the data is there, but maybe not. The actual command I used was set the unicodetext of fld ProcessedFile to uniencode(fld ProcessedFile, UTF8) (extraneous the in my first example) I had no problems with this. In fact, it processed a file with about 300,000 lines in just a few seconds. And then save the field much like this: put uniDecode( the unicodeText of field Processed File, UTF8 ) into URL (file:kFile2) I tried some variations of this but was not able to save the file from within LC and still have the Kanji viewable in TextEdit. I guess you didn't read the part about teaching to the imbecile because the rest of your explanation was way over my head. But thanks for trying. I would still like to find a way to do this from within LC. -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Kanji from a .csv file
Hmmm, I tried what you suggested but it didn't seem to work. Here's my code with your snippet inserted: *put* uniEncode (the unicodeText of field ConvertedText, UTF8) into thetext *set* the useUnicode to true *-- make numToChar use 16-bit chunks not bytes* *put* numToChar( 0xFEFF ) before thetext *put* thetext into URL (file:Messages.txt) I noticed that at one point you suggested put uniDecode( the unicodeText of field Processed File, UTF8 ) into URL (file:kFile2) if I change the first line of my code to use uniDecode: *put* uniDecode (the unicodeText of field ConvertedText, UTF8) into thetext then the entire document shows up as Kanji and lots of garbage characters. It should contain only English and Kanji. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Dar Scott d...@swcp.com wrote: OK, using the Unicode byte order mark as a signature does work for TextEdit. The byte order mark is a non displaying Unicode character. The code is U+FEFF. That is, it is FEFF in base 16, which we write as the numeral 0xFEFF in LiveCode. It is just a big character. It can be used as a pattern, a signature, to indicate what form and encoding scheme the Unicode is in in the file. It can even be used to recognize UTF8 in contrast with other encodings. It is sufficient for TextEdit to decide the file is UTF8. (TextEdit is not that smart and relies on cheats it puts into resources, so the signature is important.) You can put it in front of your unicode data before you put it into the field or after. It is preserved by the field (my worries were for naught). Just make sure you have it at the front of the file before you save. Here is how to put it in front of your unicode text: set the useUnicode to true -- make numToChar use 16-bit chunks not bytes put numToChar( 0xFEFF ) before myUnicodeText That's it! After you convert myUnicodeText (so named in my example) to UTF8 and save it, your file will be 3 bytes bigger than the original (that character is expanded to 3 bytes in UTF8). The file can grow if you keep editing the same file, so once you have the above working, work on only adding it if it is not already there. I know this is a lot to take in and I apologize for not being able to explain things simply. Just ask and I will try. Or somebody who can figure out what I'm saying might be able to explain it better. Dar On Jun 7, 2013, at 7:46 PM, Dar Scott wrote: Oh, TextEdit cheats. Did this come from TextEdit? It puts some info in the resource fork. That is lost when you write back out. I'll ponder this. Or maybe some OS X resource experts might know. Dar On Jun 7, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote: I don't know what characters the field might throw away. So, putting the file into the field and then modifying the field seems scary to me. Maybe all the data is there, but maybe not. The actual command I used was set the unicodetext of fld ProcessedFile to uniencode(fld ProcessedFile, UTF8) (extraneous the in my first example) I had no problems with this. In fact, it processed a file with about 300,000 lines in just a few seconds. And then save the field much like this: put uniDecode( the unicodeText of field Processed File, UTF8 ) into URL (file:kFile2) I tried some variations of this but was not able to save the file from within LC and still have the Kanji viewable in TextEdit. I guess you didn't read the part about teaching to the imbecile because the rest of your explanation was way over my head. But thanks for trying. I would still like to find a way to do this from within LC. -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Kanji from a .csv file
Sorry, Gmail sent my message before I was ready. Since I don't really know what I'm doing, I'm just mucking about. But that did change things a bit, so it seems like we're close to the solution. I just don't know how to arrange the pieces yet. Thanks for your suggestions so far. -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Kanji from a .csv file
Hi Phil (and others), Thanks for the response and thanks especially to Devin for the excellent article. I was able to get the Kanji to appear properly after processing the whole file and then issuing this command: set the unicodetext of fld ProcessedFile to the uniencode(fld ProcessedFile, UTF8) Very easy when you know what to do :-) One puzzle still remaining though. After I got the Kanji to show up properly, I tried saving the file to a text file and when I opened it up in TextEdit, I had lost all the Kanji again. This surprised me because I thought that TextEdit was a UTF8-compliant app. I solved the problem by simply cutting and pasting from LiveCode to a TextEdit document (Kanji came intact) but I would still like to know how I could have saved the file as a text file from within LC and still have it work. Any ideas? On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Phil Davis rev...@pdslabs.net wrote: Hi Howard, From one unicode-ignorant soul to another - Devin's explanation about LC Unicode got me started: http://livecode.byu.edu/**unicode/unicodeInRev.phphttp://livecode.byu.edu/unicode/unicodeInRev.php -- the good part is about a third of the way down Using this info + LC's various unicode functions + the styledText of a field, I was recently able to paste multi-line Arabic text correctly. If I can do that, you can do Kanji. Really! It reads left-to-right doesn't it? Best - Phil On 6/5/13 7:23 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote: I have a client who wants me to do some processing on a spreadsheet file that has been saved in .csv format. One of the fields contain either English or Japanese. When I look at the fields with the Japanese, it looks like gibberish. It does not display as Kanji. I believe the full data is still there because if I open it up in Numbers, the Kanji is displayed correctly. However, I need to use the .cvs file to process and I can't, for the life of me, make the Kanji appear. I am *way* in over my head here with regards to different languages. I assume this is a unicode issue but I am completely ignorant in this area. My question is: how can I take a .cvs file, which contains some Kanji text but doesn't display as Kanji, and convert it so that, as a text file, it displays as Kanji again. I don't care where this conversion takes place--I am doing a bunch of other processing of the file in LC so it can be anywhere in the process. I'm not doing anything with the Kanji itself except displaying it. I'd appreciate any help but if it involves unicode, please assume you are talking to an imbecile. TIA -- Phil Davis __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Getting Kanji from a .csv file
I have a client who wants me to do some processing on a spreadsheet file that has been saved in .csv format. One of the fields contain either English or Japanese. When I look at the fields with the Japanese, it looks like gibberish. It does not display as Kanji. I believe the full data is still there because if I open it up in Numbers, the Kanji is displayed correctly. However, I need to use the .cvs file to process and I can't, for the life of me, make the Kanji appear. I am *way* in over my head here with regards to different languages. I assume this is a unicode issue but I am completely ignorant in this area. My question is: how can I take a .cvs file, which contains some Kanji text but doesn't display as Kanji, and convert it so that, as a text file, it displays as Kanji again. I don't care where this conversion takes place--I am doing a bunch of other processing of the file in LC so it can be anywhere in the process. I'm not doing anything with the Kanji itself except displaying it. I'd appreciate any help but if it involves unicode, please assume you are talking to an imbecile. TIA -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution plays a bit part
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/06/apple-betrayed-by-its-own-law-firm/ -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: No More PostgreSQL on On-Rev anymore!
This is very distressing to me. I purchased a Founder's account when they were just starting and we had a *contract* that specified 100 GB storage for life. This action is exactly like ATT offering unlimited data to its early iPhone users and then later deciding that they had changed the definition of unlimited. If RunRev is going to take tactics out of the ATT playbook, I am going to have to seriously reconsider my ongoing relationship with the company. Frankly, RunRev, this is beneath you. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:09 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: They are also cutting disk allowance in half to 50 gigs, when other providers (like Dreamhost) don't set such limits. No mention of root access. That's it for me, outa here. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Rick Harrison harri...@all-auctions.comwrote: Hey guys, Did you notice that on-rev is no longer going to support PostgreSQL databases anymore? All of my developmental work is being done with PostgreSQL databases! I think that is outrageous! Anyone else upset by this change? If so we'd all like to here from you now. Thanks, Rick ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Re: Color names vs hex codes
Lol, thanks for reminding me of the source of this, Jacque. I knew I nabbed it from someone. I just couldn't remember whom. On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:26 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: That's what I use too. Credit to Ken Ray. :) Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com wrote:This is what I use: *function* RGBFromColorName theColor *if* theColor is not a color *then* *return* Error: not a color *-- create a temporary object for the color transformation:* *create* invisible button *if* the result is not empty *then* *return* Error *set* the backgroundColor of last button to theColor *-- transform the color using the backgroundPixel trick:* *set* the backgroundPixel of last button to the backgroundPixel of last button *-- the button's backgroundColor is now RGB:* *get* the backgroundColor of last button *delete* last button *-- don't need the temp object any more* *-- the create command automatically chose the pointer* *-- tool, so change it back:* *send* choose browse tool to me in 10 milliseconds *return* it *end* RGBFromColorName -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: I have a need to convert a color name form LC's colornames property to its equivalent hex value, or rgb value. Can that be done in LC? Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Selecting text in the Ask dialog box
In LC (5.5.1), when you use the Ask command with a default response, the default response is placed in the dialog box and the text is *selected*. However, under IOS, the text is not selected. Is there any way to have the default response when using Ask under IOS to appear selected so that if a user types a different response, the default response is immediately replaced by the user's response? -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Color names vs hex codes
This is what I use: *function* RGBFromColorName theColor *if* theColor is not a color *then* *return* Error: not a color *-- create a temporary object for the color transformation:* *create* invisible button *if* the result is not empty *then* *return* Error *set* the backgroundColor of last button to theColor *-- transform the color using the backgroundPixel trick:* *set* the backgroundPixel of last button to the backgroundPixel of last button *-- the button's backgroundColor is now RGB:* *get* the backgroundColor of last button *delete* last button *-- don't need the temp object any more* *-- the create command automatically chose the pointer* *-- tool, so change it back:* *send* choose browse tool to me in 10 milliseconds *return* it *end* RGBFromColorName -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: I have a need to convert a color name form LC's colornames property to its equivalent hex value, or rgb value. Can that be done in LC? Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Font differences between IOS versions
Hmmm, these are Apple's fonts which are included in IOS 5.x and IOS 4.3 for the iPad. Do you believe I have to have an official license from Apple to use their fonts in their products? On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 7:45 AM, ha...@exformedia.se ha...@exformedia.sewrote: A word of caution... ...if YOU install fonts YOU need to license them... Håkan Liljegren Exformation Designer http://www.exformedia.se/ 27 aug 2012 kl. 23:29 skrev Howard Bornstein: There are quite a few fonts that were not supported in earlier versions of IOS. I am targeting my app to run on IOS 4.3 and later and I want the app, when run under IOS 4.3, to have access to the same fonts as people running V5.x. To do so, I've done a custom install of the missing fonts into my app. This has worked fine, except that there are two fonts which do not properly display. One is Optima Bold. It always displays as Optima ExtraBlack. I can switch between the two and there is no difference. The second is Papyrus. It always displays as Papyrus-Condensed. I have verified that the versions that I want, i.e. Optima-Bold, and Papyrus, are listed as available fonts when I compile for IOS 4.3, but they still display as the other variations of these fonts as I have described. I don't know enough about how fonts are displayed on IOS devices to understand why this is happening. At first I thought that it was because IOS 4.3 simply couldn't support these fonts, but I see that they are both supported under IOS 4.3 on the iPad (actually, Papyrus-Condensed isn't supported until IOS 5, but Papyrus *is *supported under 4.3), so I don't think that is the problem. I would be grateful if anyone had an explanation or solution for this issue. Thanks. -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Font differences between IOS versions
There are quite a few fonts that were not supported in earlier versions of IOS. I am targeting my app to run on IOS 4.3 and later and I want the app, when run under IOS 4.3, to have access to the same fonts as people running V5.x. To do so, I've done a custom install of the missing fonts into my app. This has worked fine, except that there are two fonts which do not properly display. One is Optima Bold. It always displays as Optima ExtraBlack. I can switch between the two and there is no difference. The second is Papyrus. It always displays as Papyrus-Condensed. I have verified that the versions that I want, i.e. Optima-Bold, and Papyrus, are listed as available fonts when I compile for IOS 4.3, but they still display as the other variations of these fonts as I have described. I don't know enough about how fonts are displayed on IOS devices to understand why this is happening. At first I thought that it was because IOS 4.3 simply couldn't support these fonts, but I see that they are both supported under IOS 4.3 on the iPad (actually, Papyrus-Condensed isn't supported until IOS 5, but Papyrus *is *supported under 4.3), so I don't think that is the problem. I would be grateful if anyone had an explanation or solution for this issue. Thanks. -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
App signature is not valid
I have a strange situation where, when I install an app on three devices (iPhone 4, iPad 3, iPhone 3G), it installs fine on the first two, but does not install on the iPhone 3G, giving me the error App not installed because the app signature is not valid. They all use the same provisioning profiles, but here is the odd part. I *can* install the app on the 3G if I do *not* uncheck the ExitsOnSuspend property in the info plist. That is the only difference among the versions. On the iPad 3 and the iPhone 4, I uncheck this property. But if I do that on the iPhone 3G, I get the error above. If I leave this property checked (i.e. the app exits on suspend) then the app installs just fine. Why would this make a difference to the app signature? -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS - picking from a scrolling list
Hi Tom, Sorry I didn't see your response until now. That, in fact, is what I did to deal with the situation. Thanks. On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.comwrote: Howard, I am running out right now so I won't be able to look deeper into this just yet. But remember that with that code there are two scrolls going on. One for use in the IDE and the other for use on the device. The IDE code is:set the vScroll of group InputScrollerGroup to pOffsetY and the mobile code is: iphoneControlSet sScrollerId, vscroll, 0 If it is not going back to the top when coming back from another card then try adding both of them in an open card handler like this: on openCard iphoneControlSet sScrollerId, vscroll, 0 set the vScroll of group InputScrollerGroup to 0 end openCard to tested but should work if the controls exist at that point. I'll look at it later. HTHs -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net On Jul 29, 2012, at 5:34 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote: Hi Tom, Thank you for this code. It has been very helpful in getting me going on using an IOS scroller. It works fine except for the following situation, which is baffling me at this point. If I implement a scroller with your code, everything works they way I would expect it to. However, if I scroll the list (say half-way down) and then leave the card, when I return back, the top of the scrollable field is not at the top of the scroller group (which I would expect because of this line of code: set the top of field Counter to the top of group InputScrollerGroup) but is, in fact, half-way down the scroller group. Then, if I try to scroll the field up, it never gets to the bottom of the field, but instead bounces somewhere near the middle of the content. In other words, it looks like the entire field is offset down by some amount (probably a function of how much I had it scrolled before I left the card). I can't figure out why this would happen since the CloseCard handler deletes the IOS scroll group and OpenCard should create it fresh each time I go to the card. Somehow, the field position is getting stuck after I scroll it and then leave the card. Do you understand why this is happening? -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com wrote: Graham, I don't use mobgui but instead I use tmControl for layout of iOS elements. There are two types of scrolling lists possible in LC. The first is using mobilePick by itself or use an option button (that uses the iOS mobilePicker). The second is using either an LC field object or other objects like the list field in tmControl but either of these needs to be in a group and the group can now have an iOS scroller applied to it. If you create a field that is very long and group it then select the group and make it shorter than that field it will scroll. I can't remember if the group needs locked or not. There are a couple of glitches to watch out for. Here is parts of a script that controls a grouped field and an iOS scroller. A mouseUp in the field can return the desired line etc. local sScrollerId on scrollerDidScroll pOffsetX, pOffsetY lock screen set the hScroll of group InputScrollerGroup to pOffsetX set the vScroll of group InputScrollerGroup to pOffsetY unlock screen end scrollerDidScroll on openCard set the layerMode of group InputScrollerGroup of this card to scrolling set the unboundedHScroll of group InputScrollerGroup to true set the unboundedVScroll of group InputScrollerGroup to true -- add items to a field Counter and have it grow to fit the contents set the height of field Counter of this card to the formattedHeight of field Counter set the top of field Counter to the top of group InputScrollerGroup set the threeDHilite of field Lap Counter to false iphoneControlCreate scroller, InputScroller put the result into sScrollerId put the rect of group InputScrollerGroup into tRect iphoneControlSet sScrollerId, rect, tRect put the formattedHeight of field Counter into tHeight iphoneControlSet sScrollerId, contentRect, (0, 0, 0, tHeight) iphoneControlSet sScrollerId, indicatorInsets, (0,0,6,0) iphoneControlSet sScrollerId, visible, true iphoneControlSet sScrollerId, canBounce, true iphoneControlSet sScrollerId, declerationRate, fast iphoneControlSet sScrollerId, scrollingEnabled, true iphoneControlSet sScrollerId, canScrollToTop, true iphoneControlSet sScrollerId, delayTouches, true iphoneControlSet sScrollerId, vscroll, 0 set the vScroll of group InputScrollerGroup to 0 set the vScroll of field Counter to 0 focus on nothing iphoneControlDo sScrollerId
Re: THe debugger is going for a walk???
I filed a bug report on this missing Trace command back in 2009 (bug # 8144). Oliver Kenyon's response was: Hi Howard, Thanks for the report. We decided to remove the trace feature from the IDE for version 3.0 to make the product consistent with other more well-known development environments. The engine support for tracing will remain as it may be useful for development of third party debugging tools. The user guide should be updated. Regards Oliver I found this reasoning baffling, as reflected in my response: Just to get this clear, you decided to remove a useful feature because other competing products *didn't* have this feature?? *scratches his head* I'm afraid I don't follow the logic on this one. I find the trace feature to be extremely useful in certain circumstances and I request you reconsider this somewhat dubious reasoning for its removal. Unfortunately, Trace never made its way back into the debug menu and there are still Trace commands listed in the dictionary (TraceStack,TraceReturn, TraceDelay). On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:27 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: On 7/24/12 10:39 PM, Peter M. Brigham wrote: On Jul 24, 2012, at 10:49 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 7/24/12 7:30 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: I've never seen this before . . . I but in a break, it stops there, and then, once I step into or over, it keeps walking! Uhh, come back! A useful feature, sure, if I had any idea how I triggered it . . . Sounds like you triggered the Trace command. I've had this happen at random occasionally, with no recipe that I've been able to find. Have to restart to finally step through the script. MacBook, OSX 10.6.8, Rev Studio 4.5.3, build 1210. After all these years I just noticed there is no trace command in the debugger menu. (There's one in the MetaCard IDE.) If you ever do figure out what's triggering it, it would be nice to know. Putting trace into a handler does not error, but it doesn't trace either. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: finding the mousecolor in IOS
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: One exercise in that book I wrote is about using an image as a color picker. It uses the same technique as Scott mentioned, only I then set the color of another graphic to show that it has picked up the right color. That's exactly what I'm doing. I'm using the color picker to set the color of text, modifying the text color in real time as the user moves around the color wheel by touch. Can you give more information about the book you wrote? It sounds interesting. One thing to double check, the x and y values you're using, are those from the top left of the image? With mousecolor you use the card position, but with this imagedata technique you would subtract the left and top of the image in question, unless the image is the whole card. I'm assuming Scott's technique does this. His description is: This should retrieve the color of a pixel in a target image based on the X,Y offset of the touch from the topLeft. I've been busy with other things and haven't been able to check to make sure I haven't done something dumb with his code, but I've been assuming that is how this works. -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
finding the mousecolor in IOS
I'm designing a an IOS app that makes extensive use of determining the mousecolor. Everything is working fine in my stack, but when I port it to the simulator (or create the IOS app), the mousecolor only returns 0,0,0 regardless of where the mouse is. I found some early posts from last year discussing this issue and they conclude that the mousecolor can't be supported under IOS because there is no way to determine which pixel is being specified (I guess because our fingers are fatter than a single pixel). However, this doesn't make sense. If you put this script into the card of a stack and run it in the simulator (it also works in an actual IOS app), it gives you the point your finger is pressing on the iphone: *on* mousemove *put* the mouseloc : the mousecolor into fld location *end* mousemove However, the mousecolor, as I mentioned, is always black. Since LC can determine a specific pixel (or at least aggregates the points you are touching down to a specific pixel) it doesn't seem like there is any reason it can't get the mousecolor under that pixel. In addition, I found this comment in the release notes for IOS 4.5.3: *release-17 (2010-12-01)* ** *Fixed issue with 'the mouseColor' causing a crash* This implies to me that the mousecolor is supported under IOS. So, has anyone gotten this to work or has anyone found another way to get the mousecolor for a point on an IOS screen? -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: finding the mousecolor in IOS
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: Hi Howard: It seems the mouseColor is not functional on iOS in 5.5.1 (but apparently it has been fixed on Lion which is a huge relief). I don't understand this because you are comparing IOS and Lion. MouseColor already works fine in OSX. Do you mean that if you compile an IOS app under Lion, then mouseColor will work? Is this a RunRev change or does it have something to do with OSX? As I pointed out, given that IOS can identify a pixel point, I don't see any technical reason why it can't grab the color of that point (using mouseColor). I will check with the mother ship to see if I can get any clarity on this That said, if you can work with an image as your color source (ie import a snapshot if needed), you can use the following function as a workaround (watch wrap): THANK YOU SCOTT! I thought this might be a way to proceed, but since I really don't know my way around imageData, I was despairing to undertake the experiment. You've saved me a huge amount of time. local theImageData function getPixelColor pImage,pX,pY if theImageData is empty then put the imageData of pImage into theImageData put width of pImage into W put ((pY-1)*W)*4+pX*4 into lastChar put charToNum(char lastChar of theImageData) into B put charToNum(char lastChar-1 of theImageData) into G put charToNum(char lastChar-2 of theImageData) into R return R,G,B end getPixelColor This should retrieve the color of a pixel in a target image based on the X,Y offset of the touch from the topLeft. The idea is to store the imageData of the target image in theImageData variable so the function doesn't have to retrieve it repeatedly. I've been wanting mouseColor on iOS myself and while not true mouseColor, this comes close. Hope this helps. I did a quick test of this, outputting the color from both your function and from mouseColor to compare. While your function is close, it isn't giving me the same colors as mouseColor. I will have to go back and see if I didn't do something stupid, but the truth is, for the level of granularity I need, your function will work, even if it isn't exactly the same as mouseColor. Thank you again. This is a BIG help! Recently, Howard Bornstein wrote: I'm designing a an IOS app that makes extensive use of determining the mousecolor. Everything is working fine in my stack, but when I port it to the simulator (or create the IOS app), the mousecolor only returns 0,0,0 regardless of where the mouse is. I found some early posts from last year discussing this issue and they conclude that the mousecolor can't be supported under IOS because there is no way to determine which pixel is being specified (I guess because our fingers are fatter than a single pixel). However, this doesn't make sense. If you put this script into the card of a stack and run it in the simulator (it also works in an actual IOS app), it gives you the point your finger is pressing on the iphone: *on* mousemove *put* the mouseloc : the mousecolor into fld location *end* mousemove However, the mousecolor, as I mentioned, is always black. Since LC can determine a specific pixel (or at least aggregates the points you are touching down to a specific pixel) it doesn't seem like there is any reason it can't get the mousecolor under that pixel. In addition, I found this comment in the release notes for IOS 4.5.3: *release-17 (2010-12-01)* ** *Fixed issue with 'the mouseColor' causing a crash* This implies to me that the mousecolor is supported under IOS. So, has anyone gotten this to work or has anyone found another way to get the mousecolor for a point on an IOS screen? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: finding the mousecolor in IOS
Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification. I've been putting on switching to Lion for as long as possible so I haven't seen that problem. I guess I'll have to bite the bullet with Mountain Lion though. On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: Recently, Howard Bornstein wrote: It seems the mouseColor is not functional on iOS in 5.5.1 (but apparently it has been fixed on Lion which is a huge relief). I don't understand this because you are comparing IOS and Lion. MouseColor already works fine in OSX. Do you mean that if you compile an IOS app under Lion, then mouseColor will work? Is this a RunRev change or does it have something to do with OSX? I mentioned this because until recently, mouseColor was broken on OSX Lion, so you couldn't even use the function on desktop, not to mention iOS. For those of use that develop tools, this was a problem. Fortunately, the RunRev guys appeared to have fixed it. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: finding the mousecolor in IOS
I haven't had time to pursue any of this yet, but do you think the gamma would explain why I'm getting different values with Scott's routine versus the built-in mouseColor function? Btw, I'm using an imported image that I haven't modified in any way. This is all so I can build my own color picker for IOS. On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: Try this line before doing the snapshot: set the screengamma to 2.23 LiveCode changes the values in image data depending on the color settings of the screen, and doing a snapshot of the card's graphics is likely to lead to different data. On Jul 12, 2012, at 7:23 PM, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com wrote: I did a quick test of this, outputting the color from both your function and from mouseColor to compare. While your function is close, it isn't giving me the same colors as mouseColor. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: Free Shade 10 3D Standard Edition Today Only
Has anyone received anything from this offer? I placed the order 5 days ago and it's still listed as Queued on their website. On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Lynn Fredricks lfredri...@proactive-intl.com wrote: http://miryestore.com/home.php?cat=567 Scroll down to near the bottom, but you can pick up Shade 10 Standard Edition (ASA $299) for free, today only. For you QT fans, if you have the right version of QT installed it makes great panos, VR objects, etc :-) Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Proactive International, LLC - Because it is about who you know.(tm) http://www.proactive-intl.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Is iphoneOrientation() broken?
Something strange is going on with iphoneOrientation() unless I'm missing something. According to the docs, there are two functions that return the orientation of an idevice: iphoneDeviceOrientation() and iphoneOrientation(). They appear to be very similar—in fact, I can't really determine the difference between them, which may be part of my problem. iphoneDeviceOrientation() returns the orientation of the device, returning either unknown, portrait, portrait upside down, landscape left, landscape right, face up, and face down. iphoneOrientation() is used to fetch the current *interface orientation *returning only portrait, portrait upside down, landscape left, landscape right. Other than the fact that iphoneOrientation() can't determine if the phone is face up or face down, they seem identical. Therefore, you'd think if you called them both at the same time, they'd return the same results. However that's not what I get. I created a stack and placed two fields in it: F1 and F2. In the stack script I have the following: *on* openstack orientationchanged *end* openstack *on* orientationchanged *put* iphoneDeviceOrientation() into fld F1 *put* iphoneOrientation() into fld F2 *end* orientationchanged When I run this stack in the simulator (I've set the simulator to allow all four orientations) and rotate the stack, I do not get the same values in the two fields. F1 (which uses iphoneDeviceOrientation) displays what seems to me to be the correct orientation. F2 (which uses iphoneOrientation) seems to lag one orientation change behind F1. The only exception to this is the first time orientationChanged is called (in which case both fields display Portrait). When the simulator starts up in normal Portrait mode, both fields display Portrait. If I select Rotate Left from the Hardware menu, F1 contains Landscape Right (I'm not sure why it isn't Landscape Left, but at least it's consistent in how it displays its state) while F2 still contains Portrait. If I chose Rotate Left again from the Hardware menu, F1 now contains Portrait Upside down (which seems correct to me) while F2 now contains Landscape Right. I can continue this way, with F2 lagging one orientation change behind F1. If I rotate the phone to the right instead of the left, this pattern continues, with F2 lagging one orientation behind F1. Why does this happen? They should both be getting the orientation change message at the same time and according to the docs, they should both be displaying the orientation exactly the same. What am I missing? Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What happened to my message box?
Yes. It caused me to re-read the fix that was first mention by Ken Ray and then later in the thread you referenced. I realized that I had only added this line to the revDebuggerValidGlobalNames function: filter tGlobalsRaw without *-* I hadn't added this other one for some reason: filter tGlobalsRaw without */* When I plugged that in also, the message box problem went away and it now works properly. Thanks to everyone for all their suggestions and help and sorry I was so dense as to overlook the solution when it was first presented. On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Thunder revmaill...@positivme.com wrote: Does this help ? http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Cannot-use-Message-Box-td3505245.html http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Cannot-use-Message-Box-td3505245.html -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/What-happened-to-my-message-box-tp3875988p4651599.html -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Can't set the developer root in the preferences in LC 4.5.3
Once again LC 4.5.3 has bitten me. I'm beginning to think it might be personal. I've been developing for IOS using this version. Things have been working fine and I've gotten my app to run nicely on my iphone. I was working on it today and I had to quit LC for some reason. When I restarted it, suddenly the Simulate and Simulate Version menus were dimmed in the Development menu. I verified that my stack was set to build for IOS but I still could not get these menu items to become active. I went to the preferences to make sure that the developer root was set to /Developer. It was listed that way in the preferences but, to be sure, I clicked the ellipses button to reassign it to /Developer. When I tried this I got a dialog box stating: The chosen folder is not a valid IOS SDK for 3.2 and later. It must be one that ships with XCode 3.2..4 or later. I found this very strange since I had been using the simulator without problems. I checked the directory and I have SDKs for 3.2, 4.0, 4.1, 4.2 and 4.3 but for some reason LC insists that I don't have the proper SDK installed. I can't figure out why LC would suddenly not recognize the SDKs in my Developer directory. When I launch LC 4.6.4 and point it at the same directory, it smiles and wants to have my child (i.e. it works fine and doesn't complain about missing SDKs). What in the world would cause LC 4.5.3 to suddenly not validate my developer directory and keep me from using the simulator? Any suggestions as to how to get this to work again would be greatly appreciated. -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What happened to my message box?
Lol, no, no, the message stack is there. I can use the other panes of it, such as the global variables, the pending messages, etc. It's only the single and multi-line messages sections that don't work. They are visible and I can enter commands into the message field. However, it simply doesn't respond to Return or Enter to actually execute the messages for some weird reason. On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:11 AM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: Howard... could your message stack just be lurking offscreen, waiting for a set the loc of stack 'message' to 100,100 ?? On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Stephen Barncard sbarn...@gmail.com wrote: could your message stack just be lurking offscreen, waiting for a set the loc of stack message to 100,100 ?? Sent from my iPhone in the cube zone On Jun 28, 2012, at 17:17, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com wrote: Craig's trick has never worked for me. Yes, I deleted all the prefs and reinstalled LC. That didn't help. Messages are turned on but that was a good thing to check. I'm limping along with my self-rolled message box so I'm able to move forward at this point. Thanks for the reply. On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:02 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: On 6/27/12 1:19 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote: Yup. Launch LC, call up the msg box, enter Put the time, hit return. Nothing. The only other person I know of who had this problem was Craig (DunbarX) and I think upgrading eventually fixed it. If I remember right, clicking the lower pane of the message box would activate it again, and allow typing into the upper pane. It was odd behavior. I've not followed all this, so I can't remember if you tried deleting prefs and restarting. If so, maybe a reinstall would fix it. I seem to recall Craig did that and it didn't work, but who knows. One thing that catches me sometimes is that the Messages icon is turned on (messages are blocked). If so, the message box stops working. Check that. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecode http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What happened to my message box?
When I enter this script into the card handler of a card I do in fact get those values for Return and Enter. Apparently this problem is within the Message Box stack itself, and then only within the section that deals with the message field. I've tried using the debugger to trap the execution of the message field (it has a ReturnInField handler) but the debugger never engages, even when I set a hard breakpoint (?!), so I haven't been able to get any further in figuring out what the problem is. Hence, I've built my own message box in order to get any work done. Weird, huh? Any other ideas? I appreciate your help. On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: I have to conclude that there is something in your OS, or some utility that is preventing the keypress events from getting to the Livecode engine. What happens when you put this in a card script and then hit the return key: on rawKeyDown pKey put pKey pass rawKeyDown end rawKeyDown You should get 65293 for the returnKey and 65421 for the enterKey. Bob On Jul 2, 2012, at 11:15 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote: Lol, no, no, the message stack is there. I can use the other panes of it, such as the global variables, the pending messages, etc. It's only the single and multi-line messages sections that don't work. They are visible and I can enter commands into the message field. However, it simply doesn't respond to Return or Enter to actually execute the messages for some weird reason. On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:11 AM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: Howard... could your message stack just be lurking offscreen, waiting for a set the loc of stack 'message' to 100,100 ?? On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Stephen Barncard sbarn...@gmail.com wrote: could your message stack just be lurking offscreen, waiting for a set the loc of stack message to 100,100 ?? Sent from my iPhone in the cube zone On Jun 28, 2012, at 17:17, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com wrote: Craig's trick has never worked for me. Yes, I deleted all the prefs and reinstalled LC. That didn't help. Messages are turned on but that was a good thing to check. I'm limping along with my self-rolled message box so I'm able to move forward at this point. Thanks for the reply. On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:02 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: On 6/27/12 1:19 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote: Yup. Launch LC, call up the msg box, enter Put the time, hit return. Nothing. The only other person I know of who had this problem was Craig (DunbarX) and I think upgrading eventually fixed it. If I remember right, clicking the lower pane of the message box would activate it again, and allow typing into the upper pane. It was odd behavior. I've not followed all this, so I can't remember if you tried deleting prefs and restarting. If so, maybe a reinstall would fix it. I seem to recall Craig did that and it didn't work, but who knows. One thing that catches me sometimes is that the Messages icon is turned on (messages are blocked). If so, the message box stops working. Check that. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecode http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com
Re: What happened to my message box?
Hi Mark, I remember when this issue came up (I too was taken in by the lure of a free suite of 3D programs). I did make those changes at the time Ken brought this to our awareness to the revDebuggerValidGlobalNames function but I made it in LC V 4.6.4, the latest version of LC I have. I didn't make it in V 4.5.3, the one I'm having troubles with regarding the message box. As it turns out, I don't think this is the issue, since I have not had this issue with the script editor, just the message box. I went ahead and plugged those changes into the revDebugger in V 4.5.3 but I've noticed no effect one way or the other. Thanks for the thought however. On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:26 PM, AcidJazz mpe...@gmail.com wrote: Check this thread in the runrev forum for another possible cause of the problem, and a solution. http://forums.runrev.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12070 - Mark -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/What-happened-to-my-message-box-tp3875988p4651577.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What happened to my message box?
Thank you Mark! This is very helpful. I've verified that I can now use breakpoints in the message box scripts and will take a look to see if I can track down where the problem is when I have some free time. I've been getting along ok with my home grown one so I'm not in a rush, but it's good to know I can get back to that. Now I've hit another snag in IOS development because suddenly, after weeks of working just fine, LC will no longer validate that I have a valid SDK in my /Developer directory, even though it's there, so I can't use the Simulator any more. G. I'm looking around for something expensive to break. On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Howard- Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 11:11:36 AM, you wrote: Any other ideas? I appreciate your help. The debugger has a trap to ignore errors in IDE stacks in order to prevent endless loops. If you need to debug the message box, issue the following commands. Normally I would say do this in the message box, but... global gRevDevelopment put true into gRevDevelopment -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What happened to my message box?
thanks jacque, this is marvelous! On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 10:58 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: On 6/27/12 1:14 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote: Btw, do you know of a list of error message numbers so I can make the error reporting a little more robust? I distributed this lookup stack today at the conference as part of my debugging session: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/**23431607/ErrorLookup.livecode.**ziphttps://dl.dropbox.com/u/23431607/ErrorLookup.livecode.zip This lookup stack is dynamic and will load the current error list from whatever version of LC is currently running. You can just grab the list out of the first field. Alternately look up errorDialog in the dictionary which explains where the list is kept in the IDE. You can grab it there. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What happened to my message box?
Craig's trick has never worked for me. Yes, I deleted all the prefs and reinstalled LC. That didn't help. Messages are turned on but that was a good thing to check. I'm limping along with my self-rolled message box so I'm able to move forward at this point. Thanks for the reply. On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:02 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: On 6/27/12 1:19 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote: Yup. Launch LC, call up the msg box, enter Put the time, hit return. Nothing. The only other person I know of who had this problem was Craig (DunbarX) and I think upgrading eventually fixed it. If I remember right, clicking the lower pane of the message box would activate it again, and allow typing into the upper pane. It was odd behavior. I've not followed all this, so I can't remember if you tried deleting prefs and restarting. If so, maybe a reinstall would fix it. I seem to recall Craig did that and it didn't work, but who knows. One thing that catches me sometimes is that the Messages icon is turned on (messages are blocked). If so, the message box stops working. Check that. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What happened to my message box?
I didn't know about revmessageboxredirect but even if I did, I couldn't set it to empty because... well, the message box doesn't work ;-) On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 4:23 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: this is way off the wall and may not be related or work at all, but at one time there was this unlisted property called revmessageboxredirect, and it changed what is normally sent to the lower part of the message box ( like unrequited puts ) to another field in your stack. *set* the revmessageboxredirect to emptywill set to normal what *set* the revmessageboxredirect to the long id of me had set up. On Jun 26, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote: Grrr. This bug is back and this time restarting my Mac didn't fix it. So I'm trying to trace what happens when I type anything into the message box. I've got the script for the message box itself open as well as the script for the message field. I've put breakpoints at the rawkeydown handler as well as on the ReturnInField handler but I can't seem to make anything trap to the debugger. Shouldn't LC scripts respond like any other scripts when in Script Debug Mode? I can't imagine what could be causing this problem. Everything else is working normally, including the message box until yesterday. Any ideas would be appreciated. -- Regards, Howard Bornstein Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What happened to my message box?
This is a great idea and it's what I did. It took some fiddling to get it to work the way I wanted but I now can actually get some work done. Thanks for the idea. Btw, do you know of a list of error message numbers so I can make the error reporting a little more robust? On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 4:32 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: one can make one's own 'message box' while trying to get a handle on this... create a new stack make a field to hold the command(s) - name it command make a button named 'execute' with this script on mouseup get field command do it end mouseup add a 'try' structure and error reporting and you have your own custom message box. Often I prefer to use my own, which has code formatting and coloring, and can execute Shell and Applescript commands too. This method doesn't seem to have the oddities of the 'real' message box. On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 4:23 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: this is way off the wall and may not be related or work at all, but at one time there was this unlisted property called revmessageboxredirect, and it changed what is normally sent to the lower part of the message box ( like unrequited puts ) to another field in your stack. *set* the revmessageboxredirect to emptywill set to normal what *set* the revmessageboxredirect to the long id of me had set up. On Jun 26, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote: Grrr. This bug is back and this time restarting my Mac didn't fix it. So I'm trying to trace what happens when I type anything into the message box. I've got the script for the message box itself open as well as the script for the message field. I've put breakpoints at the rawkeydown handler as well as on the ReturnInField handler but I can't seem to make anything trap to the debugger. Shouldn't LC scripts respond like any other scripts when in Script Debug Mode? I can't imagine what could be causing this problem. Everything else is working normally, including the message box until yesterday. Any ideas would be appreciated. -- Regards, Howard Bornstein Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What happened to my message box?
Yup. Launch LC, call up the msg box, enter Put the time, hit return. Nothing. I've got the standard plugins along with a couple others, but I've been using those for years and haven't updated them. Someone else on this list reported the same problem with the message box last year, specifically with V 4.5.3. I think this version is not particularly stable (all kinds of on-going problems with the debugger and script editor). I'm planning to upgrade everything to the current versions, but I wanted to get a little further in IOS testing before I commit the $500 for the upgrade. Thanks for your replies. On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: This happens with no stacks open or in memory and no plugins active? It sounds like there is something intercepting the enterKey or returnkey message and not passing it, perhaps in a frontscript. Bob On Jun 26, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote: Unfortunately, it doesn't matter what I put in the message box, since it never seems to act on the return key to execute the command. On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Try typing breakpoint;your command here You should be warned however that the message box is a strange beast, and may not behave as you expect, particularly with regard to execution contexts (if I remember right). Bob On Jun 26, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote: Grrr. This bug is back and this time restarting my Mac didn't fix it. So I'm trying to trace what happens when I type anything into the message box. I've got the script for the message box itself open as well as the script for the message field. I've put breakpoints at the rawkeydown handler as well as on the ReturnInField handler but I can't seem to make anything trap to the debugger. Shouldn't LC scripts respond like any other scripts when in Script Debug Mode? I can't imagine what could be causing this problem. Everything else is working normally, including the message box until yesterday. Any ideas would be appreciated. -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What happened to my message box?
Which is why, in a follow up post to your follow up post, I told you I did and thanked you for the suggestion ;-) By the way, when I put set the revmessageboxredirect to empty in my homegrown message box, it didn't do anything. On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 2:25 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: which is why (in a follow up post) I suggested a method to make one's own temporary 'message box' ...so you can poke around On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.comwrote: I didn't know about revmessageboxredirect but even if I did, I couldn't set it to empty because... well, the message box doesn't work ;-) Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What happened to my message box?
Interesting. I have horrible problems with the editor and debugger. I frequently have to close and restart the editor (losing all my open tabs) and the debugger often skips over breakpoints and otherwise acts wonky. My other version, 4.6.4, works much better but I don't have an IOS seat for it. I'll be happy to upgrade to the latest version when I can spring the money free. On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, I have been using 4.5.3 for a long time, still using it, and I've found it to be quite stable. I've never seen what you're describing. MacBook, OSX 10.6.8, Rev Studio 4.5.3, build 1210. -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig On Jun 27, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote: Yup. Launch LC, call up the msg box, enter Put the time, hit return. Nothing. I've got the standard plugins along with a couple others, but I've been using those for years and haven't updated them. Someone else on this list reported the same problem with the message box last year, specifically with V 4.5.3. I think this version is not particularly stable (all kinds of on-going problems with the debugger and script editor). I'm planning to upgrade everything to the current versions, but I wanted to get a little further in IOS testing before I commit the $500 for the upgrade. Thanks for your replies. On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: This happens with no stacks open or in memory and no plugins active? It sounds like there is something intercepting the enterKey or returnkey message and not passing it, perhaps in a frontscript. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What happened to my message box?
Grrr. This bug is back and this time restarting my Mac didn't fix it. So I'm trying to trace what happens when I type anything into the message box. I've got the script for the message box itself open as well as the script for the message field. I've put breakpoints at the rawkeydown handler as well as on the ReturnInField handler but I can't seem to make anything trap to the debugger. Shouldn't LC scripts respond like any other scripts when in Script Debug Mode? I can't imagine what could be causing this problem. Everything else is working normally, including the message box until yesterday. Any ideas would be appreciated. -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What happened to my message box?
Unfortunately, it doesn't matter what I put in the message box, since it never seems to act on the return key to execute the command. On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Try typing breakpoint;your command here You should be warned however that the message box is a strange beast, and may not behave as you expect, particularly with regard to execution contexts (if I remember right). Bob On Jun 26, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote: Grrr. This bug is back and this time restarting my Mac didn't fix it. So I'm trying to trace what happens when I type anything into the message box. I've got the script for the message box itself open as well as the script for the message field. I've put breakpoints at the rawkeydown handler as well as on the ReturnInField handler but I can't seem to make anything trap to the debugger. Shouldn't LC scripts respond like any other scripts when in Script Debug Mode? I can't imagine what could be causing this problem. Everything else is working normally, including the message box until yesterday. Any ideas would be appreciated. -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Google Chrome Resource Hog?
I often see Google Chrome Renderer (multiple instances) using anywhere from 30% to 100% of my CPU time and I have no idea why. :-( -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: 6 Is A Mystery Number
If you change the font size significantly, does that change your fudgefactor? -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com mmm, fudge. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: DAZ3D is giving away three 3D-Apps for free
If you downloaded it from DAZ3D, they will send you the serial numbers via an email. If you don't get it for some reason, contact me off list. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins pepe...@cox.net wrote: I was able to install and open Bryce 7, but it is insisting on a registration number. Since I sometimes miss things in the small print, did I miss something along the way? TIA, Joe Wilkins Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What is up with FormattedHeight?
Thanks for your reply. As a graphic designer, I know about ascenders, descenders, x-height, etc. However, I had thought that formattedHeight adjusted the field height to the size of the text being displayed, not to the min and max of the entire type face. I created a field with the entire extended ascii set in it and chose formatted height. While the bottom border hit the descenders, the upper border still had noticeable space above the highest character in the full character set. It turns out that this is because of the textheight property. This sets the vertical distance between one baseline and the next. This is set by default to 4*textsize/3 in order to provide a reasonable distance between lines (i.e. the leading). In order to make the formattedheight fit (almost) properly around the full range of a typeface you have to set the fixedLineHeight to true and then set the textheight to the same value as the textsize (rendering the effective leading as zero). However, it's more complicated than that. The proper display of text is a field is also contingent upon the field margins. If you set the margins to 0, the descenders start to get cut off when the text size is around 40 points. LC tries to make this invisible to the average user by setting the default margins to 8 (they recommend nothing less than 2 in order to take into account the focus border of the field). However, formattedHeight doesn't automatically adjust these margins for you so that the text is always displayed properly. You have to do this manually. So to recap, it appears the the formattedHeight property determines the displayable height of text in a field based on the metrics of the entire type face, not just the type that is displayed. It uses the textheight property (if set) and the margins properties (if set) as part of the soup that gets mixed together when displaying type. At large type sizes, the settings for the margins don't seem to be predictable to make sure that text is not cut off at the bottom. Given this, the only value I can see for formattedHeight is that it guarantees that the field will provide sufficient room to display the type. That's about it. And even that breaks down with large type sizes and small margins. Since LC does ultimately display the text as graphics on the computer, I had hoped it would have sufficient information to know exactly where the text boundaries are, but if it is using the operating system to actually display the text, then it probably wouldn't have this level of pixel-resolution information available. So it appears that it will not be easy to determine the minimum rectangle to encase text of any given font at any given size. I still have a couple of ideas to approximate this but if anyone else wants to take up the challenge, I'd be interested to hear what you come up with. Thanks for all the replies. On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Paul Hibbert l...@pbh.on-rev.com wrote: Howard, Why doesn't the formattedHeight of a field just do this automatically? Why does it include extra space at the top and bottom of the field? What are the relationships among text size, text height, and field height that will allow the field to adjust to exactly the size of the text regardless of the text size. There is a great deal more information contained in any font than the characters you see on screen. 1234 as you used for your test are all similar height characters, but consider chars like 'Å' and 'g' that need more room to display their information. Each character is sat on a baseline, but has clear space above and below so they are readable when typed into a paragraph, 100 pt type doesn't measure 100 points from the bottom of an individual character to it's the top, but is more often (not always) measured from the top of the highest ascender within the font to the bottom of the lowest descender of all the characters within the font, so you are not seeing the full picture with typing '1234'. Every font has it's own totally unique set of relationships and parameters for baseline, line height, x-height, ascenders, descenders etc. So, as you can probably imagine, any adjustments you make for say Helvetica will be totally different for a font like Brush Script. From my experience of working with type for over 35 years, both off and on computers, I really don't think LiveCode (or any other application) could do what you are asking without first converting the displayed text to a graphic (either vector or bitmap) and then processing the resulting information. Regards, Paul ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode
Re: What is up with FormattedHeight?
Right. As I've been able to determine, the textheight is used to create the leading and the formattedheight uses the font metrics, the textheight (if set) and the field margins (if set). On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: If you have ever had to edit type faces, you would see that this space is necessary. It used to be called leading (not lead as you would a dog but lead as in a bit of lead inserted between lines of type in a press). Without leading, type in a paragraph would be much more difficult to read. There needs to be room for the height of the ascender the body, the tail and the leading. The sum of all that is the formatted height. Bob On Feb 5, 2012, at 7:30 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote: I need to find the smallest rectangle that will enclose a line of text of arbitrary text size in a field. I thought I could use formattedheight and formattedwidth to do this but it doesn't seem to be working. The dictionary says about FormattedHeight: Use the *formattedHeight* property to determine how much vertical space an object needs. The *formattedHeight* of a chunk in a field is the amount of vertical space that portion of the field's text requires That's not what I get. If you'd like to follow along at home, here are some simple steps to show what I mean: Create a field in LC. set the showborder to true Set the border to 1 (this is only to show what LC thinks is the boundary of the field) Set the 3D to false set the margins to 0,0,0,0 Set the fixedlineheight to off Set the textfont to Helvetica Set the textsize to 100 Type in the following into the field 1234 Go to the size and positioning tab of the object inspector and click both Fit Content buttons for width and height. I would have expected the border to tighten down to include the text and no more. But instead, look at all that space at the top—and a fair amount of space at the bottom. Why is that space considered part of the height of the text? I can gain what I want by manually adjusting a number of properties. If I use the fixed line height property, I get a little more control, although, as far as I can tell, formattedheight should work without it, but it doesn't. If I turn on the fixed line height (i.e. the textheight property) in the inspector (with the configuration I described above), it is automatically set to a text height of 93 and the text jumps up to the top of the bounding box (I've got nice screen shots of all this but I seem to remember that we're not supposed to use attachments or images on this list). If I click Fit Content for height at this point, the box closes down and gets rid of some, but not all, of the space at the bottom. If I adjust the field height value to 73, I can finally get the bounding box to match the height of the text. This is what I am looking for. I am trying to figure out the relationship of settings which will always produce a bounding box with this level of tightness for any size text (I am ignoring the extra space on the left of the field for now). I need to be able to do this under script control. If I go through the same exercise but set the text size to 200 points, I can again adjust things so that the bounding box only encloses the text with no additional space, but I can't find any clear relationship between the settings for 100 points and 200 points. So my questions are these: Why doesn't the formattedHeight of a field just do this automatically? Why does it include extra space at the top and bottom of the field? What are the relationships among text size, text height, and field height that will allow the field to adjust to exactly the size of the text regardless of the text size. Please let me know if I'm totally missing the point about formattedHeight or if there is something else obvious that has eluded me. -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What is up with FormattedHeight?
That makes sense. I was complaining about formattedHeight for fields. For buttons it seems useful. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: One thing I use it for is programmatically setting the height of menu buttons. I find the default size to be too large for a busy form, so I set the height to the formattedHeight of the text of the button. I have a utility that drops a field, button or menu onto a card and links it to a SQL column in a table that the card is linked to. Bob On Feb 8, 2012, at 1:26 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote: Given this, the only value I can see for formattedHeight is that it guarantees that the field will provide sufficient room to display the type. That's about it. And even that breaks down with large type sizes and small margins. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
