Analytical Engine - An Introduction to Computer Science [FOUND]

[Alejandro Tejada]

I asked Mr. Stuart Hirshfield if he have plans
to update his book and he answered:

Stuart Hirshfield wrote:
> Thanks again for your interest in our beloved project.
> For a number of reasons we have no plans for
> releasing updated materials. First and foremost,
> I am on the road to retirement.
> Second, there are now other texts (and other
> software packages) that have built upon our
> original ideas, some of which are very well done.
> Check out the following links:

https://www.amazon.com/Balanced-Introduction-Computer-Science-3rd/dp/0132166755/ref=sr_1_4?s=books=UTF8=1475802977=1-4

https://www.amazon.com/Computer-Science-Illuminated-Paperback-International/dp/B014E1NIWM/ref=sr_1_2?s=books=UTF8=147508=1-2=computer+science+illuminated+6th+edition

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_man_computer

http://www.cburch.com/logisim/

http://ais.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/tursi/downloads.html

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Re: Analytical Engine - An Introduction to Computer Science [FOUND]

[Alejandro Tejada]

Hi Stephen,

On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 Stephen Barncard wrote:
> you could assemble a list of email addresses
> and use this: https://mixstream.wetransfer.com
> free to 2 gigs, stays up for a couple of weeks,
> no signup, no hassle.put me on the list if you do this.

Really Nice! Very fast and professional service.
I send the file using this service too.
Thanks a lot for posting this link.

Al

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Analytical Engine - An Introduction to Computer Science [FOUND]

[Alejandro Tejada]

Thanks a lot Mark for
detailed instructions! :D

Here is Dropbox public download link.
Tell me if it works for everyone.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/935gzrqwgxwn6qb/AEMacintoshStacks.zip?dl=0

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Re: Analytical Engine - An Introduction to Computer Science [FOUND]

[Mark Wieder]

On 10/01/2016 01:11 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote:


I have uploaded this file AEMacintoshStacks.zip (2 mb) to my Dropbox
account but looks like a free Dropbox account does not allows anymore
to share files with anyone that have file's link... or maybe simply I
don't know how to set "public access for everyone with a download
link".


Log onto the Dropbox website
Find the file you want to share
On the right you'll see a box named "Share"
Click the box
Click "Create link"
Click "Copy link"

Now you can share the link with anyone.

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Re: Analytical Engine - An Introduction to Computer Science [FOUND]

[stephen barncard]

Alejandro,

you could assemble a list of email addresses and use this:

https://mixstream.wetransfer.com

free to 2 gigs, stays up for a couple of weeks, no signup, no hassle.

put me on the list if you do this.

thanks



On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Alejandro Tejada 
wrote:

> I have uploaded this file AEMacintoshStacks.zip (2 mb) to my Dropbox
> account but looks like a free Dropbox account does not allows anymore
> to share files with anyone that have file's link... or maybe simply I
> don't know how to set "public access for everyone with a download
> link".
>
> If anyone in this mail list want this file: AEMacintoshStacks.zip (2
> mb), please write me to send it directly to your email or maybe
> someone could post this file on another free file download service.
>



Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
mixstream.org
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Re: Analytical Engine - An Introduction to Computer Science [FOUND]

[Alejandro Tejada]

Correction:

This sentence:
> All of them as good as when they where
> created 14 years ago. :-D
Should have been:
> All of them as good as when they where
> created 23 years ago. :-D

Al


On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Alejandro Tejada  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Finally, many months after searching for Macintosh Stacks from book:
> The Analytical Engine - 2nd Edition, Lagi Pittas found the floppy disk
> and posted disk's content on LiveCode forums:
> http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=5=26101
>
> When I opened the compressed zip folder, I noticed that all Macintosh
> files are damaged because the Resource Fork split from their Data
> Fork.
>
> The only way to avoid this damage is compressing the folder inside a
> Macintosh, using any of these compression utilities: Stuffit, Compact
> Pro or Zip It.
>
> Fortunately, Stuffit Expander could open and decompress the file named
> !SEA (Data Fork only). This decompressed !SEA file produced a folder
> that contains all the stacks. All of them as good as when they where
> created 14 years ago. :-D
>
> I have uploaded this file AEMacintoshStacks.zip (2 mb) to my Dropbox
> account but looks like a free Dropbox account does not allows anymore
> to share files with anyone that have file's link... or maybe simply I
> don't know how to set "public access for everyone with a download
> link".
>
> If anyone in this mail list want this file: AEMacintoshStacks.zip (2
> mb), please write me to send it directly to your email or maybe
> someone could post this file on another free file download service.
>
> The compressed zip folder includes 4 files:
>
> 1) A png image with a screencapture of the Macintosh desktop, showing
> AE Stacks folder contents and stack AE Home.
>
> Other 3 files are the complete stack's folder compressed
> 2) as stuffit (.sit),
> 3) as compact pro (.cpt) and
> 4) as zip it (.zip for Macintosh)
>
> A Mac User that needs these files, could use at least one of these 3
> files and decompress the stack's folder in a Mac.
>
> Have a nice weekend!
>
> Alejandro

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Analytical Engine - An Introduction to Computer Science [FOUND]

[Alejandro Tejada]

Hi All,

Finally, many months after searching for Macintosh Stacks from book:
The Analytical Engine - 2nd Edition, Lagi Pittas found the floppy disk
and posted disk's content on LiveCode forums:
http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=5=26101

When I opened the compressed zip folder, I noticed that all Macintosh
files are damaged because the Resource Fork split from their Data
Fork.

The only way to avoid this damage is compressing the folder inside a
Macintosh, using any of these compression utilities: Stuffit, Compact
Pro or Zip It.

Fortunately, Stuffit Expander could open and decompress the file named
!SEA (Data Fork only). This decompressed !SEA file produced a folder
that contains all the stacks. All of them as good as when they where
created 14 years ago. :-D

I have uploaded this file AEMacintoshStacks.zip (2 mb) to my Dropbox
account but looks like a free Dropbox account does not allows anymore
to share files with anyone that have file's link... or maybe simply I
don't know how to set "public access for everyone with a download
link".

If anyone in this mail list want this file: AEMacintoshStacks.zip (2
mb), please write me to send it directly to your email or maybe
someone could post this file on another free file download service.

The compressed zip folder includes 4 files:

1) A png image with a screencapture of the Macintosh desktop, showing
AE Stacks folder contents and stack AE Home.

Other 3 files are the complete stack's folder compressed
2) as stuffit (.sit),
3) as compact pro (.cpt) and
4) as zip it (.zip for Macintosh)

A Mac User that needs these files, could use at least one of these 3
files and decompress the stack's folder in a Mac.

Have a nice weekend!

Alejandro

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Re: Analytical Engine - An Introduction to Computer Science

[Richard Gaskin]

Alejandro Tejada wrote:

> Does anyone have this HyperCard book in his/her bookshelf? and
> Could you provide us with a fair review of it's content?
...
> Analytical Engine: An Introduction to Computer Science Using
> HyperCard 2.1
> (Computer Science Series) Paperback – September 27, 1993
> by Rick Decker  (Author), Stuart Hirshfield (Author)
...
> If we believe this book's introduction then this is exactly the kind
> of content that should be updated for this platform.
>
> How many interesting and really useful books about HyperCard published
> between 1987 and 1998
> are just waiting to be rediscovered and updated?

You might be surprised at how much work would be needed to make them 
relevant to modern LiveCode, if they can be made relevant at all.


I haven't read "Analytical Engine" so maybe it's an exception to the 
rule, but most of the HyperCard books I've seen are very specific to 
HyperCard itself, replete with explanations of the UI that's very 
different from LC, and when they discuss even the core language I often 
find that the things most inventively useful things back in the day have 
turned out to be what we might consider workarounds for things built 
into LiveCode today.


For example, one of my favorite books on HyperTalk was Colouris and 
Thimbleby's "HyperProgramming". I remember it being among the most 
exciting HyperTalk books I'd purchased at the time, but I was reviewing 
it again recently and found that most of it is a (nicely done) rehash of 
the HC manual, and it's not until page 271 that it breaks interesting 
new ground with a discussion of a lightweight framework for developing 
in HC.  The final section after that contains some ideas for tools that 
were very powerful at the time, but with LiveCode's arrays, extended 
chunk expressions, and deeper more flexible object model none of those 
would be how those problems would be solved in LC.


Similarly, I have a copy of Peter Desberg's "HyperInteractive CAI: Using 
HyperCard to Develop Computer-Assisted Instruction".  Here there's 
slightly more content that might be adaptable for LC, with its focus on 
instructional design - Mr. Desberg is a well respected professor at Cal 
State University at Dominguez Hills, and his deep experience as an 
educator shows through in his writing.  But the implementation of his 
ideas throughout the book is so specific to HyperCard that there's 
hardly much there that I could recommend to someone learning LiveCode 
for use in education.


One thing all the xTalk books from the '80s and '90s have in common is 
the nearly complete absence of one of the most defining elements of our 
time:  the Internet.


Coupled with the new capabilities LC has introduced to the xTalk world, 
and richer object model, and of course support for mobile platforms, the 
ways we solve problems today are very different from how we solved them 
back then.  Even when some of the core language seems strikingly 
similar, that similarity is largely superficial, however seductively so: 
 we can run many algos we'd written back then, but today we'd write 
them very differently.


IMHO, the opportunities for delivering good learning materials for 
LiveCode fall into two camps:


- Community engagement with the core team to refine, enhance, and extend 
the wealth of existing resources freely available to all: the User 
Guide, Dictionary, lessons, tutorials, and example stacks. Most of the 
documentation is already in Github and can be worked on today; a brief 
guide for orienting to Github for LC documentation is being drafted by 
the team to make that even easier going forward.


- Domain-specific reference and tutorial information for areas like 
workgroup support, business management, enterprise devops, education, etc.


As for education, the Education Community Outreach project has a forum 
section and a team leader, Max Shafer, and everyone interested in 
exploring opportunities for learning materials, template stacks, tools, 
and other resources to support the use of LiveCode in educational 
settings is strongly encouraged to dive in:

<http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=107>

--
 Richard Gaskin
 LiveCode Community Manager
 rich...@livecode.org


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Analytical Engine - An Introduction to Computer Science

[Alejandro Tejada]

Hi All,

Does anyone have this HyperCard book in his/her bookshelf? and
Could you provide us with a fair review of it's content?

Probably you want to know: How did I found about this book?
Today I was looking for some out of print Books in AbeBooks and 
for curiosity, searched the word "HyperCard" and just found it.
A book that I have not seen before:

Analytical Engine: An Introduction to Computer Science Using HyperCard 2.1 
(Computer Science Series) Paperback – September 27, 1993
by Rick Decker  (Author), Stuart Hirshfield (Author)

THE ANALYTICAL ENGINE is unique in its true survey course approach combined
with the learn by doing method of incorporated laboratories. 

While most introductions to computer science teach only programming, THE
ANALYTICAL ENGINE covers the spectrum of computer science topics from
history and systems design, to programming, hardware and the effect of
computing on society and, each topic has a corresponding lab. 

Unlike any other book on the market, Decker and Hirshfield put the powerful
tool of HyperCard into the hands of beginning computer science students,
resulting in interesting and creative programs.

http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=12845759283
Amazon have this book too:
http://www.amazon.com/Analytical-Engine-Introduction-Computer-HyperCard/dp/0534936962

If we believe this book's introduction then this is exactly the kind of
content that should be updated for this platform.

How many interesting and really useful books about HyperCard published
between 1987 and 1998
are just waiting to be rediscovered and updated?

Alejandro



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