Re: Externally reffed-off

[Brian Milby via use-livecode]

>From the shell dictionary entry:

*Note:* If you use a file path in the shell command on a Windows system,
the file path must be in Windows form, not the Unix-style file paths that
LiveCode uses internally.


> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 2:15 PM Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
>> Although "/" was mentioned in the post to which I replied I have come
>> across
>> places (not sure where: Windows?) where the itemDelimiter for pathways is
>> a backslash "\" . . .
>>
>> Richmond.
>>
>>
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Re: Externally reffed-off

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

On 10/1/2018 10:21 pm, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:

Hi Richmond,


Am 10.01.2018 um 21:14 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
:

Although "/" was mentioned in the post to which I replied I have come across
places (not sure where: Windows?) where the itemDelimiter for pathways is
a backslash "\" . . .

internally LC uses the SLASH as a pathdelimiter always and on ANY platform!


That's a great comfort ;-)

Best, Richmond.



Richmond.

On 10/1/2018 9:02 pm, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode wrote:

We can count on you, Richmond to ask the questions that the rest of us are
afraid to ask

  thanks for being here,  grumpy or not

--
Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
mixstream.org

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 10:50 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


Presumably the itemDelimiter should be "/" ?

Best

Klaus

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Re: Externally reffed-off

[Brian Milby via use-livecode]

That is for the shell function.
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 2:15 PM Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Although "/" was mentioned in the post to which I replied I have come
> across
> places (not sure where: Windows?) where the itemDelimiter for pathways is
> a backslash "\" . . .
>
> Richmond.
>
> On 10/1/2018 9:02 pm, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode wrote:
> > We can count on you, Richmond to ask the questions that the rest of us
> are
> > afraid to ask
> >
> >   thanks for being here,  grumpy or not
> >
> > --
> > Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
> > mixstream.org
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 10:50 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Presumably the itemDelimiter should be "/" ?
> >>
> >> Richmond.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 10/1/2018 2:47 pm, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote:
> >>
> >>> you still need to set the itemdelimiter for it to work Richmond,
> otherwise
> >>> its not able to count items.
> >>>
> >>> Also, I thought part of the issue was that you were referencing a
> folder
> >>> that is NOT in the application bundle using the copy files pane of the
> >>> standalone settings.  This is why using specialfolderpath("resources")
> >>> doesn't work.
> >>>
> >>> Since you said you placed the app bundle next to the folder in
> question,
> >>> setting the itemdelimiter to "/" and then grabbing items 1 to -5 should
> >>> solve the problem.  (You had set the itemdel in your original example
> >>> which
> >>> is why I didn't bother to include it (or the rest of the handler.)
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 5:25 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
> >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Richmond,
>  Am 10.01.2018 um 13:23 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
>  use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> > And, IF, I were to try to port the thing to Android or iPad/iPhone
> would
> > specialfolderpath "do it" over there as well?
> >
>  yes, as stated in the dictionary!
> 
>  Richmond.
>  Best
> 
>  Klaus
>  --
>  Klaus Major
>  http://www.major-k.de
>  kl...@major-k.de
> 
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Re: Externally reffed-off

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Richmond,

> Am 10.01.2018 um 21:14 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Although "/" was mentioned in the post to which I replied I have come across
> places (not sure where: Windows?) where the itemDelimiter for pathways is
> a backslash "\" . . .

internally LC uses the SLASH as a pathdelimiter always and on ANY platform!

> Richmond.
> 
> On 10/1/2018 9:02 pm, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode wrote:
>> We can count on you, Richmond to ask the questions that the rest of us are
>> afraid to ask
>> 
>>  thanks for being here,  grumpy or not
>> 
>> --
>> Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
>> mixstream.org
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 10:50 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Presumably the itemDelimiter should be "/" ?

Best

Klaus

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Re: Externally reffed-off

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

Although "/" was mentioned in the post to which I replied I have come across
places (not sure where: Windows?) where the itemDelimiter for pathways is
a backslash "\" . . .

Richmond.

On 10/1/2018 9:02 pm, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode wrote:

We can count on you, Richmond to ask the questions that the rest of us are
afraid to ask

  thanks for being here,  grumpy or not

--
Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
mixstream.org

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 10:50 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


Presumably the itemDelimiter should be "/" ?

Richmond.


On 10/1/2018 2:47 pm, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote:


you still need to set the itemdelimiter for it to work Richmond, otherwise
its not able to count items.

Also, I thought part of the issue was that you were referencing a folder
that is NOT in the application bundle using the copy files pane of the
standalone settings.  This is why using specialfolderpath("resources")
doesn't work.

Since you said you placed the app bundle next to the folder in question,
setting the itemdelimiter to "/" and then grabbing items 1 to -5 should
solve the problem.  (You had set the itemdel in your original example
which
is why I didn't bother to include it (or the rest of the handler.)

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 5:25 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

Hi Richmond,

Am 10.01.2018 um 13:23 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:


And, IF, I were to try to port the thing to Android or iPad/iPhone would
specialfolderpath "do it" over there as well?


yes, as stated in the dictionary!

Richmond.
Best

Klaus
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Re: Externally reffed-off

[Mike Bonner via use-livecode]

Yeah "/"  exactly like you had it in your posted code. I swear, not
useless. 
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:50 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Presumably the itemDelimiter should be "/" ?


>
> Richmond.
>
>
>
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Re: Externally reffed-off

[Stephen Barncard via use-livecode]

We can count on you, Richmond to ask the questions that the rest of us are
afraid to ask

 thanks for being here,  grumpy or not

--
Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
mixstream.org

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 10:50 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Presumably the itemDelimiter should be "/" ?
>
> Richmond.
>
>
> On 10/1/2018 2:47 pm, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote:
>
>> you still need to set the itemdelimiter for it to work Richmond, otherwise
>> its not able to count items.
>>
>> Also, I thought part of the issue was that you were referencing a folder
>> that is NOT in the application bundle using the copy files pane of the
>> standalone settings.  This is why using specialfolderpath("resources")
>> doesn't work.
>>
>> Since you said you placed the app bundle next to the folder in question,
>> setting the itemdelimiter to "/" and then grabbing items 1 to -5 should
>> solve the problem.  (You had set the itemdel in your original example
>> which
>> is why I didn't bother to include it (or the rest of the handler.)
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 5:25 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Richmond,
>>>
>>> Am 10.01.2018 um 13:23 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <

>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>>>
 And, IF, I were to try to port the thing to Android or iPad/iPhone would
 specialfolderpath "do it" over there as well?

>>> yes, as stated in the dictionary!
>>>
>>> Richmond.

>>> Best
>>>
>>> Klaus
>>> --
>>> Klaus Major
>>> http://www.major-k.de
>>> kl...@major-k.de
>>>
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Re: Externally reffed-off

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

Presumably the itemDelimiter should be "/" ?

Richmond.

On 10/1/2018 2:47 pm, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote:

you still need to set the itemdelimiter for it to work Richmond, otherwise
its not able to count items.

Also, I thought part of the issue was that you were referencing a folder
that is NOT in the application bundle using the copy files pane of the
standalone settings.  This is why using specialfolderpath("resources")
doesn't work.

Since you said you placed the app bundle next to the folder in question,
setting the itemdelimiter to "/" and then grabbing items 1 to -5 should
solve the problem.  (You had set the itemdel in your original example which
is why I didn't bother to include it (or the rest of the handler.)

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 5:25 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


Hi Richmond,


Am 10.01.2018 um 13:23 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <

use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:

And, IF, I were to try to port the thing to Android or iPad/iPhone would
specialfolderpath "do it" over there as well?

yes, as stated in the dictionary!


Richmond.

Best

Klaus
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kl...@major-k.de


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Re: Externally reffed-off

[Mike Bonner via use-livecode]

you still need to set the itemdelimiter for it to work Richmond, otherwise
its not able to count items.

Also, I thought part of the issue was that you were referencing a folder
that is NOT in the application bundle using the copy files pane of the
standalone settings.  This is why using specialfolderpath("resources")
doesn't work.

Since you said you placed the app bundle next to the folder in question,
setting the itemdelimiter to "/" and then grabbing items 1 to -5 should
solve the problem.  (You had set the itemdel in your original example which
is why I didn't bother to include it (or the rest of the handler.)

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 5:25 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi Richmond,
>
> > Am 10.01.2018 um 13:23 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> >
> > And, IF, I were to try to port the thing to Android or iPad/iPhone would
> > specialfolderpath "do it" over there as well?
>
> yes, as stated in the dictionary!
>
> > Richmond.
>
> Best
>
> Klaus
> --
> Klaus Major
> http://www.major-k.de
> kl...@major-k.de
>
>
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Re: Externally reffed-off

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Richmond,

> Am 10.01.2018 um 13:23 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> And, IF, I were to try to port the thing to Android or iPad/iPhone would
> specialfolderpath "do it" over there as well?

yes, as stated in the dictionary!

> Richmond.

Best

Klaus
--
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Re: Externally reffed-off

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Richmond,

> Am 10.01.2018 um 13:20 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Well, YOUR LiveCode, MY LiveCode, EVERYONE'S LiveCode:

ah, snappish answers! 
A typical reaction after having been caught! :-D

> YOUR recipe worked.
> Thanks a bucket!

You're welcome!

> Richmond.
> 
> On 10/1/2018 2:01 pm, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi Richmond,
>> 
>>> Am 10.01.2018 um 12:57 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> My "problem" Klaus is that I don't know YOUR LiveCode,
>> that's why I wrote "Know YOUR Livecode" and not "Know MY Livecode", Sir! :-)
>> 
>>> but I do know MY LiveCode.
>>> 
>>> I have a theory that once one has been working inwith a system for many 
>>> years
>>> one's methods and mindset become fixed in a way that may not be very useful.
>> But you know specialfolderpath("resources") and the fact that everything you 
>> add to
>> your standalone(s) via the "Copy files..." tab in the standalone builder 
>> settings can be
>> found in that sepcialfolderpath in the standalone?
>> 
>>> Best, Richmond.
>>> 
>>> On 10/1/2018 1:32 pm, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
> Am 10.01.2018 um 12:17 schrieb Mike Bonner via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Change it to..
> set the defaultfolder to item 1 to -5 of the effective filename of this
> stack
> 
> and it should work. I don't have an available mac to test though, so
> tweakage might be necessary. (not likely though its pretty
> straightforward)
> 
> You can put it in an if block if you want so that if the environment is
> development you use the first method, else you use the second.
 Know your Livecode! :-)
 ...
 set the defaultfolder to specialfolderpath("resources")
 ...
 
 This should however not be neccessary since relative pathnames that work in
 the IDE should also work in a standalone and actually do!

Best

Klaus

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Re: Externally reffed-off

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

And, IF, I were to try to port the thing to Android or iPad/iPhone would
specialfolderpath "do it" over there as well?

Richmond.

On 10/1/2018 2:20 pm, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

Well, YOUR LiveCode, MY LiveCode, EVERYONE'S LiveCode: YOUR recipe worked.

Thanks a bucket!

Richmond.

On 10/1/2018 2:01 pm, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:

Hi Richmond,


Am 10.01.2018 um 12:57 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via 
use-livecode:

My "problem" Klaus is that I don't know YOUR LiveCode,

that's why I wrote "Know YOUR Livecode" and not "Know MY Livecode", Sir! :-)


but I do know MY LiveCode.

I have a theory that once one has been working inwith a system for many years
one's methods and mindset become fixed in a way that may not be very useful.

But you know specialfolderpath("resources") and the fact that everything you 
add to
your standalone(s) via the "Copy files..." tab in the standalone builder 
settings can be
found in that sepcialfolderpath in the standalone?


Best, Richmond.

On 10/1/2018 1:32 pm, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:

Am 10.01.2018 um 12:17 schrieb Mike Bonner via 
use-livecode:

Change it to..
set the defaultfolder to item 1 to -5 of the effective filename of this
stack

and it should work. I don't have an available mac to test though, so
tweakage might be necessary. (not likely though its pretty
straightforward)

You can put it in an if block if you want so that if the environment is
development you use the first method, else you use the second.

Know your Livecode! :-)
...
set the defaultfolder to specialfolderpath("resources")
...

This should however not be neccessary since relative pathnames that work in
the IDE should also work in a standalone and actually do!

Best

Klaus

--
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http://www.major-k.de
kl...@major-k.de


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Re: Externally reffed-off

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Richmond,

> Am 10.01.2018 um 13:13 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I thought I'd "play a game", so I set up a new stack with 2 buttons:
> 
> [Mac OS]
> 
> Button 1 contained this script:
> 
> onmouseUp
>setthedefaultfoldertospecialfolderpath("resources"
> endmouseUp
> 
> and Button 2 contained this script:
> 
> onmouseUp
>  putthedefaultFolder
> endmouseUp
> 
> I clicked on Button 1 and then on Button 2
> 
> and got this in the Message Box:
> 
> /Users/richmondmathewson/LiveCode/LiveCode Indy 
> 8.1.8.app/Contents/Tools/Toolset

sounds like you did not SAVE that stack so far.
If saved specialfolderpath("resources") shoud give you the folder that stack 
has beeen saved in!

> ...
> Richmond.

Best

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Re: Externally reffed-off

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

Well, YOUR LiveCode, MY LiveCode, EVERYONE'S LiveCode: YOUR recipe worked.

Thanks a bucket!

Richmond.

On 10/1/2018 2:01 pm, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:

Hi Richmond,


Am 10.01.2018 um 12:57 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
:

My "problem" Klaus is that I don't know YOUR LiveCode,

that's why I wrote "Know YOUR Livecode" and not "Know MY Livecode", Sir! :-)


but I do know MY LiveCode.

I have a theory that once one has been working inwith a system for many years
one's methods and mindset become fixed in a way that may not be very useful.

But you know specialfolderpath("resources") and the fact that everything you 
add to
your standalone(s) via the "Copy files..." tab in the standalone builder 
settings can be
found in that sepcialfolderpath in the standalone?


Best, Richmond.

On 10/1/2018 1:32 pm, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:

Am 10.01.2018 um 12:17 schrieb Mike Bonner via use-livecode 
:

Change it to..
set the defaultfolder to item 1 to -5 of the effective filename of this
stack

and it should work. I don't have an available mac to test though, so
tweakage might be necessary. (not likely though its pretty
straightforward)

You can put it in an if block if you want so that if the environment is
development you use the first method, else you use the second.

Know your Livecode! :-)
...
set the defaultfolder to specialfolderpath("resources")
...

This should however not be neccessary since relative pathnames that work in
the IDE should also work in a standalone and actually do!

Best

Klaus

--
Klaus Major
http://www.major-k.de
kl...@major-k.de


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Re: Externally reffed-off

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

I thought I'd "play a game", so I set up a new stack with 2 buttons:

[Mac OS]

Button 1 contained this script:

onmouseUp
setthedefaultfoldertospecialfolderpath("resources"
endmouseUp

and Button 2 contained this script:

onmouseUp
  putthedefaultFolder
endmouseUp

I clicked on Button 1 and then on Button 2

and got this in the Message Box:

/Users/richmondmathewson/LiveCode/LiveCode Indy 
8.1.8.app/Contents/Tools/Toolset


So, feeling "really daring" I made a third button, "Button 3" (surely not?)
containing this script:

onmouseUp
setthedefaultfoldertoitem 1 to-5 oftheeffectivefilenameofthis stack
endmouseUp

then clicked Button 3 followed by Button 2, and got this in the Message Box:

/Users/richmondmathewson/LiveCode/LiveCode Indy 
8.1.8.app/Contents/Tools/Toolset


so, obviously " setthedefaultfoldertoitem 1 to-5 
oftheeffectivefilenameofthis stack"


is useless.

Richmond.


On 10/1/2018 1:32 pm, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:

set the defaultfolder to specialfolderpath("resources")


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Re: Externally reffed-off

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

That did not work, unfortunately.

Richmond.

On 10/1/2018 1:17 pm, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote:

Change it to..
set the defaultfolder to item 1 to -5 of the effective filename of this
stack

and it should work. I don't have an available mac to test though, so
tweakage might be necessary. (not likely though its pretty
straightforward)

You can put it in an if block if you want so that if the environment is
development you use the first method, else you use the second.

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Mike Bonner  wrote:


Its because of this...

*Cross-platform note:* On OS X systems, standalone applications are
stored as application bundles. A bundle behaves like a file but is
actually a folder, and the main stack of a standalone application is
inside this folder. The filename of stack property reports the location
of the application inside the bundle, not the bundle'slocation. For
example, if the bundle's file path is "/Volumes/Disk/MyApp.app/", the
filename of the application's main stack might be
"/Volumes/Disk/MyApp.app/Contents/MacOS/MyApp".

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 3:54 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


I am currently working on something that calls a lot of external images
which are stored
in a folder called "rez" in the same location as my stack, and when my
stack opens it
works its way through the script:

onpreOpenStack
 setitemDelto"/"
 setthedefaultFoldertoitem 1 to-2 of(theeffectivefileNameofthis stack)
 gotocard "TITLE"
endpreOpenStack

nothing particularly odd there.

each image has "rez/imagename.png"
  set as its source.

AND everything works in the stack.

So would be extremely grateful why, when a Mac standalone is placed in
exactly
the same relation to the "rez" folder it does not "pick up" the images.

Richmond.

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Re: Externally reffed-off

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Richmond,

> Am 10.01.2018 um 12:57 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> My "problem" Klaus is that I don't know YOUR LiveCode,

that's why I wrote "Know YOUR Livecode" and not "Know MY Livecode", Sir! :-)

> but I do know MY LiveCode.
> 
> I have a theory that once one has been working inwith a system for many years
> one's methods and mindset become fixed in a way that may not be very useful.

But you know specialfolderpath("resources") and the fact that everything you 
add to 
your standalone(s) via the "Copy files..." tab in the standalone builder 
settings can be
found in that sepcialfolderpath in the standalone?

> Best, Richmond.
> 
> On 10/1/2018 1:32 pm, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> 
>>> Am 10.01.2018 um 12:17 schrieb Mike Bonner via use-livecode 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Change it to..
>>> set the defaultfolder to item 1 to -5 of the effective filename of this
>>> stack
>>> 
>>> and it should work. I don't have an available mac to test though, so
>>> tweakage might be necessary. (not likely though its pretty
>>> straightforward)
>>> 
>>> You can put it in an if block if you want so that if the environment is
>>> development you use the first method, else you use the second.
>> Know your Livecode! :-)
>> ...
>> set the defaultfolder to specialfolderpath("resources")
>> ...
>> 
>> This should however not be neccessary since relative pathnames that work in
>> the IDE should also work in a standalone and actually do!

Best

Klaus

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Re: Externally reffed-off

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

My "problem" Klaus is that I don't know YOUR LiveCode,
but I do know MY LiveCode.

I have a theory that once one has been working inwith a system for many 
years

one's methods and mindset become fixed in a way that may not be very useful.

Best, Richmond.

On 10/1/2018 1:32 pm, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:



Am 10.01.2018 um 12:17 schrieb Mike Bonner via use-livecode 
:

Change it to..
set the defaultfolder to item 1 to -5 of the effective filename of this
stack

and it should work. I don't have an available mac to test though, so
tweakage might be necessary. (not likely though its pretty
straightforward)

You can put it in an if block if you want so that if the environment is
development you use the first method, else you use the second.

Know your Livecode! :-)
...
set the defaultfolder to specialfolderpath("resources")
...

This should however not be neccessary since relative pathnames that work in
the IDE should also work in a standalone and actually do!


On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Mike Bonner  wrote:


Its because of this...

*Cross-platform note:* On OS X systems, standalone applications are
stored as application bundles. A bundle behaves like a file but is
actually a folder, and the main stack of a standalone application is
inside this folder. The filename of stack property reports the location
of the application inside the bundle, not the bundle'slocation. For
example, if the bundle's file path is "/Volumes/Disk/MyApp.app/", the
filename of the application's main stack might be
"/Volumes/Disk/MyApp.app/Contents/MacOS/MyApp".

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 3:54 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


I am currently working on something that calls a lot of external images
which are stored
in a folder called "rez" in the same location as my stack, and when my
stack opens it
works its way through the script:

onpreOpenStack
setitemDelto"/"
setthedefaultFoldertoitem 1 to-2 of(theeffectivefileNameofthis stack)
gotocard "TITLE"
endpreOpenStack

Best

Klaus

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http://www.major-k.de
kl...@major-k.de


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Re: Externally reffed-off

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

Thank you very much, that's a great help.

Richmond.

On 10/1/2018 1:17 pm, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote:

Change it to..
set the defaultfolder to item 1 to -5 of the effective filename of this
stack

and it should work. I don't have an available mac to test though, so
tweakage might be necessary. (not likely though its pretty
straightforward)

You can put it in an if block if you want so that if the environment is
development you use the first method, else you use the second.

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Mike Bonner  wrote:


Its because of this...

*Cross-platform note:* On OS X systems, standalone applications are
stored as application bundles. A bundle behaves like a file but is
actually a folder, and the main stack of a standalone application is
inside this folder. The filename of stack property reports the location
of the application inside the bundle, not the bundle'slocation. For
example, if the bundle's file path is "/Volumes/Disk/MyApp.app/", the
filename of the application's main stack might be
"/Volumes/Disk/MyApp.app/Contents/MacOS/MyApp".

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 3:54 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


I am currently working on something that calls a lot of external images
which are stored
in a folder called "rez" in the same location as my stack, and when my
stack opens it
works its way through the script:

onpreOpenStack
 setitemDelto"/"
 setthedefaultFoldertoitem 1 to-2 of(theeffectivefileNameofthis stack)
 gotocard "TITLE"
endpreOpenStack

nothing particularly odd there.

each image has "rez/imagename.png"
  set as its source.

AND everything works in the stack.

So would be extremely grateful why, when a Mac standalone is placed in
exactly
the same relation to the "rez" folder it does not "pick up" the images.

Richmond.

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Re: Externally reffed-off

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

> Am 10.01.2018 um 12:17 schrieb Mike Bonner via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Change it to..
> set the defaultfolder to item 1 to -5 of the effective filename of this
> stack
> 
> and it should work. I don't have an available mac to test though, so
> tweakage might be necessary. (not likely though its pretty
> straightforward)
> 
> You can put it in an if block if you want so that if the environment is
> development you use the first method, else you use the second.

Know your Livecode! :-)
...
set the defaultfolder to specialfolderpath("resources")
...

This should however not be neccessary since relative pathnames that work in 
the IDE should also work in a standalone and actually do!

> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Mike Bonner  wrote:
> 
>> Its because of this...
>> 
>> *Cross-platform note:* On OS X systems, standalone applications are
>> stored as application bundles. A bundle behaves like a file but is
>> actually a folder, and the main stack of a standalone application is
>> inside this folder. The filename of stack property reports the location
>> of the application inside the bundle, not the bundle'slocation. For
>> example, if the bundle's file path is "/Volumes/Disk/MyApp.app/", the
>> filename of the application's main stack might be
>> "/Volumes/Disk/MyApp.app/Contents/MacOS/MyApp".
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 3:54 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I am currently working on something that calls a lot of external images
>>> which are stored
>>> in a folder called "rez" in the same location as my stack, and when my
>>> stack opens it
>>> works its way through the script:
>>> 
>>> onpreOpenStack
>>>setitemDelto"/"
>>>setthedefaultFoldertoitem 1 to-2 of(theeffectivefileNameofthis stack)
>>>gotocard "TITLE"
>>> endpreOpenStack

Best

Klaus

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Re: Externally reffed-off

[Mike Bonner via use-livecode]

Change it to..
set the defaultfolder to item 1 to -5 of the effective filename of this
stack

and it should work. I don't have an available mac to test though, so
tweakage might be necessary. (not likely though its pretty
straightforward)

You can put it in an if block if you want so that if the environment is
development you use the first method, else you use the second.

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Mike Bonner  wrote:

> Its because of this...
>
> *Cross-platform note:* On OS X systems, standalone applications are
> stored as application bundles. A bundle behaves like a file but is
> actually a folder, and the main stack of a standalone application is
> inside this folder. The filename of stack property reports the location
> of the application inside the bundle, not the bundle'slocation. For
> example, if the bundle's file path is "/Volumes/Disk/MyApp.app/", the
> filename of the application's main stack might be
> "/Volumes/Disk/MyApp.app/Contents/MacOS/MyApp".
>
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 3:54 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
>> I am currently working on something that calls a lot of external images
>> which are stored
>> in a folder called "rez" in the same location as my stack, and when my
>> stack opens it
>> works its way through the script:
>>
>> onpreOpenStack
>> setitemDelto"/"
>> setthedefaultFoldertoitem 1 to-2 of(theeffectivefileNameofthis stack)
>> gotocard "TITLE"
>> endpreOpenStack
>>
>> nothing particularly odd there.
>>
>> each image has "rez/imagename.png"
>>  set as its source.
>>
>> AND everything works in the stack.
>>
>> So would be extremely grateful why, when a Mac standalone is placed in
>> exactly
>> the same relation to the "rez" folder it does not "pick up" the images.
>>
>> Richmond.
>>
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Re: Externally reffed-off

[Mike Bonner via use-livecode]

Its because of this...

*Cross-platform note:* On OS X systems, standalone applications are stored
as application bundles. A bundle behaves like a file but is actually a
folder, and the main stack of a standalone application is inside this folder.
The filename of stack property reports the location of the application
inside the bundle, not the bundle'slocation. For example, if the bundle's file
path is "/Volumes/Disk/MyApp.app/", the filename of the application's main
stack might be "/Volumes/Disk/MyApp.app/Contents/MacOS/MyApp".

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 3:54 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I am currently working on something that calls a lot of external images
> which are stored
> in a folder called "rez" in the same location as my stack, and when my
> stack opens it
> works its way through the script:
>
> onpreOpenStack
> setitemDelto"/"
> setthedefaultFoldertoitem 1 to-2 of(theeffectivefileNameofthis stack)
> gotocard "TITLE"
> endpreOpenStack
>
> nothing particularly odd there.
>
> each image has "rez/imagename.png"
>  set as its source.
>
> AND everything works in the stack.
>
> So would be extremely grateful why, when a Mac standalone is placed in
> exactly
> the same relation to the "rez" folder it does not "pick up" the images.
>
> Richmond.
>
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Externally reffed-off

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

I am currently working on something that calls a lot of external images 
which are stored
in a folder called "rez" in the same location as my stack, and when my 
stack opens it

works its way through the script:

onpreOpenStack
setitemDelto"/"
setthedefaultFoldertoitem 1 to-2 of(theeffectivefileNameofthis stack)
gotocard "TITLE"
endpreOpenStack

nothing particularly odd there.

each image has "rez/imagename.png"
 set as its source.

AND everything works in the stack.

So would be extremely grateful why, when a Mac standalone is placed in 
exactly

the same relation to the "rez" folder it does not "pick up" the images.

Richmond.

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