Re: AW: Help: Odd menu behavior under LC6.7.11 on OSX
That was a very interesting bug, requiring a separate click to correctly display each menu! Fixed now, also I found an easy workaround for anyone using LC 6.7 - 8.1.2. Best wishes, Curry K. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
AW: Help: Odd menu behavior under LC6.7.11 on OSX
This "odd behavior" is indeed a LC engine bug under OSX, from version 6.7 onward including LC9. See http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19097. Mark Waddingham has identified the cause and the fix for future releases. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Help: Odd menu behavior under LC6.7.11 on OSX
For the text issue you can set the theme of the stack to "legacy" and it will use the old settings. What bug are you seeing? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On January 12, 2017 5:43:08 AM Roger Eller via use-livecode wrote: 6.7.5 is my poison of choice. 8.x gives an error when it opens. Bug was reported several times, but it's still there, even in the latest. Also, my Windows applications are tightly spaced in the UI department, and 8.x text spacing goes crazy. It would take a lot of time to go through everything and adjust the text spacing. ~Roger On Jan 12, 2017 3:16 AM, "Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode" < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: If you want to talk about a "perv": I'm currently using 7.1.4 for all my development work. Richmond. On 1/12/17 12:02 am, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote: Richmond: > Well, the first question anyone is going to ask is why > on earth you are using 6.7.11? Don't forget to use "OMG/LOL/derisno/perv" as in for example: "OMG, why are you using 6.7, are you a total perv? Derisno past! LOL." :) There is a history to every product, and not only do we learn a lot by comparing past to present, but the latest version of LC that people take for granted owes a lot of fixes and some features to Paul in particular due to his meticulous work and testing, providing a huge benefit to the entire community! It's wonderful to keep up with recent LC releases, especially where Apple is concerned, but sometimes circumstances and LC bugs/features can affect the speed of that process. Then you have people who grab the latest DP, precisely because it is the very latest thing, and get confused trying to tell the difference between their own bugs and DP bugs. I help people with that often enough to know that a chorus of "just grab the latest" is advice that needs clarification. Paul: > We are seeing a weird menu rendering issues under OSX I believe this menu issue is also a current bug in LC 8.1.2! Haven't tried it yet in LC 9, but I will soon. LC 6.6 was okay, so it must have been introduced in 6.7 and remained until now. Craig: > I am hunkered down in v6 until I can swallow the new "look" > of v8/9. The only thing I really miss from those is the new > multi-char itemDelimiter. Change for the sake of change keeps some people incredibly happy, others less so! The new interface does take some getting used to, and the old interface definitely had its strengths too, as I've realized lately with certain particular tasks and with teaching others. Much to learn from comparing and critiquing LC versions, enjoying the very latest as well as some past specimens! Best wishes, Curry Kenworthy Custom Software Development http://livecodeconsulting.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Help: Odd menu behavior under LC6.7.11 on OSX
6.7.5 is my poison of choice. 8.x gives an error when it opens. Bug was reported several times, but it's still there, even in the latest. Also, my Windows applications are tightly spaced in the UI department, and 8.x text spacing goes crazy. It would take a lot of time to go through everything and adjust the text spacing. ~Roger On Jan 12, 2017 3:16 AM, "Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode" < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > If you want to talk about a "perv": I'm currently using 7.1.4 for all my > development work. > > Richmond. > > On 1/12/17 12:02 am, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote: > >> >> Richmond: >> > Well, the first question anyone is going to ask is why >> > on earth you are using 6.7.11? >> >> Don't forget to use "OMG/LOL/derisno/perv" as in for example: "OMG, why >> are you using 6.7, are you a total perv? Derisno past! LOL." :) >> >> There is a history to every product, and not only do we learn a lot by >> comparing past to present, but the latest version of LC that people take >> for granted owes a lot of fixes and some features to Paul in particular due >> to his meticulous work and testing, providing a huge benefit to the entire >> community! >> >> It's wonderful to keep up with recent LC releases, especially where Apple >> is concerned, but sometimes circumstances and LC bugs/features can affect >> the speed of that process. Then you have people who grab the latest DP, >> precisely because it is the very latest thing, and get confused trying to >> tell the difference between their own bugs and DP bugs. I help people with >> that often enough to know that a chorus of "just grab the latest" is advice >> that needs clarification. >> >> Paul: >> > We are seeing a weird menu rendering issues under OSX >> >> I believe this menu issue is also a current bug in LC 8.1.2! Haven't >> tried it yet in LC 9, but I will soon. LC 6.6 was okay, so it must have >> been introduced in 6.7 and remained until now. >> >> Craig: >> > I am hunkered down in v6 until I can swallow the new "look" >> > of v8/9. The only thing I really miss from those is the new >> > multi-char itemDelimiter. >> >> Change for the sake of change keeps some people incredibly happy, others >> less so! The new interface does take some getting used to, and the old >> interface definitely had its strengths too, as I've realized lately with >> certain particular tasks and with teaching others. Much to learn from >> comparing and critiquing LC versions, enjoying the very latest as well as >> some past specimens! >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Curry Kenworthy >> >> Custom Software Development >> http://livecodeconsulting.com/ >> >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Help: Odd menu behavior under LC6.7.11 on OSX
If you want to talk about a "perv": I'm currently using 7.1.4 for all my development work. Richmond. On 1/12/17 12:02 am, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote: Richmond: > Well, the first question anyone is going to ask is why > on earth you are using 6.7.11? Don't forget to use "OMG/LOL/derisno/perv" as in for example: "OMG, why are you using 6.7, are you a total perv? Derisno past! LOL." :) There is a history to every product, and not only do we learn a lot by comparing past to present, but the latest version of LC that people take for granted owes a lot of fixes and some features to Paul in particular due to his meticulous work and testing, providing a huge benefit to the entire community! It's wonderful to keep up with recent LC releases, especially where Apple is concerned, but sometimes circumstances and LC bugs/features can affect the speed of that process. Then you have people who grab the latest DP, precisely because it is the very latest thing, and get confused trying to tell the difference between their own bugs and DP bugs. I help people with that often enough to know that a chorus of "just grab the latest" is advice that needs clarification. Paul: > We are seeing a weird menu rendering issues under OSX I believe this menu issue is also a current bug in LC 8.1.2! Haven't tried it yet in LC 9, but I will soon. LC 6.6 was okay, so it must have been introduced in 6.7 and remained until now. Craig: > I am hunkered down in v6 until I can swallow the new "look" > of v8/9. The only thing I really miss from those is the new > multi-char itemDelimiter. Change for the sake of change keeps some people incredibly happy, others less so! The new interface does take some getting used to, and the old interface definitely had its strengths too, as I've realized lately with certain particular tasks and with teaching others. Much to learn from comparing and critiquing LC versions, enjoying the very latest as well as some past specimens! Best wishes, Curry Kenworthy Custom Software Development http://livecodeconsulting.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Help: Odd menu behavior under LC6.7.11 on OSX
Richmond: > Well, the first question anyone is going to ask is why > on earth you are using 6.7.11? Don't forget to use "OMG/LOL/derisno/perv" as in for example: "OMG, why are you using 6.7, are you a total perv? Derisno past! LOL." :) There is a history to every product, and not only do we learn a lot by comparing past to present, but the latest version of LC that people take for granted owes a lot of fixes and some features to Paul in particular due to his meticulous work and testing, providing a huge benefit to the entire community! It's wonderful to keep up with recent LC releases, especially where Apple is concerned, but sometimes circumstances and LC bugs/features can affect the speed of that process. Then you have people who grab the latest DP, precisely because it is the very latest thing, and get confused trying to tell the difference between their own bugs and DP bugs. I help people with that often enough to know that a chorus of "just grab the latest" is advice that needs clarification. Paul: > We are seeing a weird menu rendering issues under OSX I believe this menu issue is also a current bug in LC 8.1.2! Haven't tried it yet in LC 9, but I will soon. LC 6.6 was okay, so it must have been introduced in 6.7 and remained until now. Craig: > I am hunkered down in v6 until I can swallow the new "look" > of v8/9. The only thing I really miss from those is the new > multi-char itemDelimiter. Change for the sake of change keeps some people incredibly happy, others less so! The new interface does take some getting used to, and the old interface definitely had its strengths too, as I've realized lately with certain particular tasks and with teaching others. Much to learn from comparing and critiquing LC versions, enjoying the very latest as well as some past specimens! Best wishes, Curry Kenworthy Custom Software Development http://livecodeconsulting.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Help: Odd menu behavior under LC6.7.11 on OSX
Hi. 6.7 on Mavericks I am hunkered down in v6 until I can swallow the new "look" of v8/9. The only thing I really miss from those is the new multi-char itemDelimiter. Craig -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Help-Odd-menu-behavior-under-LC6-7-11-on-OSX-tp4711552p4711557.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Help: Odd menu behavior under LC6.7.11 on OSX
On 1/9/2017 3:12 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: > Well, the first question anyone is going to ask is why on earth you are > using 6.7.11? > > PPC Macs? > > "can not move to new versions" > > Money for commercial version? > > Richmond. In this case, we have part of our application that are not yet compatible with LC 7 or higher, but that is irrelevant. We are at 6.7.11, do not want to move to a newer release at this time, and want to track down the issue. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Help: Odd menu behavior under LC6.7.11 on OSX
On 1/9/2017 3:16 PM, dunbarx via use-livecode wrote: > I am still in 6.7 and perfectly fine. > > So if you click on the "File" menu, and then release and then click on > "Edit", I assume the menuItems for "Edit" appear normally? It is only when > you click on "File" and then, mouse-still-down, move over to "Edit" that the > thing happens? > > Thank you for the information! Every bit will probably be useful in tracking this issue down. Yes, you have the correct user behavior that shows a problem on our machines. May I ask what version of OSX you are running LC 6.7.11 on? We have 6.7.11 on a Snow Leopard laptop that does NOT exhibit the bad behavior, but our Mavericks, Yosemite, and El Capitan systems DO exhibit the bad behavior. Also, are you running 6.7.11 or an earlier version of 6.7? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Help: Odd menu behavior under LC6.7.11 on OSX
Well, the first question anyone is going to ask is why on earth you are using 6.7.11? PPC Macs? "can not move to new versions" Money for commercial version? Richmond. On 1/9/17 9:56 pm, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote: We're developing under LC6.7.11 and can not move to new versions of LC just at the moment. We are seeing a weird menu rendering issues under OSX (Mavericks through El Capitan). Our group object for our menu buttons has an 'on mouseDown' handler that looks at various object states and updates (enables/disables, revises wording, etc.) menu items in all the menus of the menubar accordingly. i.e. Edit > Copy is not enabled unless there is something to Copy and so on. We build the app for Windows and OSX. The code works correctly under Windows. On OSX what we see is that if you click and hold the mouse down on a menu, File, for example, the state of all items in the File menu are reflected correctly. If you continue to hold the mouse down and drag over to the Edit menu to view that, it reflects the prior menuitem states, not what the script just updated them to. If you release the button and click on Edit, it now renders the Edit menuItems with the correct states. Has anyone working in 6.7.11 currently or when previously working in 6.7.11 seen anything like this? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Help: Odd menu behavior under LC6.7.11 on OSX
I am still in 6.7 and perfectly fine. So if you click on the "File" menu, and then release and then click on "Edit", I assume the menuItems for "Edit" appear normally? It is only when you click on "File" and then, mouse-still-down, move over to "Edit" that the thing happens? Craig -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Help-Odd-menu-behavior-under-LC6-7-11-on-OSX-tp4711552p4711554.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Help: Odd menu behavior under LC6.7.11 on OSX
We're developing under LC6.7.11 and can not move to new versions of LC just at the moment. We are seeing a weird menu rendering issues under OSX (Mavericks through El Capitan). Our group object for our menu buttons has an 'on mouseDown' handler that looks at various object states and updates (enables/disables, revises wording, etc.) menu items in all the menus of the menubar accordingly. i.e. Edit > Copy is not enabled unless there is something to Copy and so on. We build the app for Windows and OSX. The code works correctly under Windows. On OSX what we see is that if you click and hold the mouse down on a menu, File, for example, the state of all items in the File menu are reflected correctly. If you continue to hold the mouse down and drag over to the Edit menu to view that, it reflects the prior menuitem states, not what the script just updated them to. If you release the button and click on Edit, it now renders the Edit menuItems with the correct states. Has anyone working in 6.7.11 currently or when previously working in 6.7.11 seen anything like this? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode