Re: Help: Odd menu behavior under LC6.7.11 on OSX

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

For the text issue you can set the theme of the stack to "legacy" and it 
will use the old settings.


What bug are you seeing?
--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com



On January 12, 2017 5:43:08 AM Roger Eller via use-livecode 
 wrote:



6.7.5 is my poison of choice.  8.x gives an error when it opens.  Bug was
reported several times, but it's still there, even in the latest.  Also, my
Windows applications are tightly spaced in the UI department, and 8.x text
spacing goes crazy. It would take a lot of time to go through everything
and adjust the text spacing.

~Roger

On Jan 12, 2017 3:16 AM, "Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode" <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


If you want to talk about a "perv": I'm currently using 7.1.4 for all my
development work.

Richmond.

On 1/12/17 12:02 am, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote:



Richmond:
> Well, the first question anyone is going to ask is why
> on earth you are using 6.7.11?

Don't forget to use "OMG/LOL/derisno/perv" as in for example: "OMG, why
are you using 6.7, are you a total perv? Derisno past! LOL." :)

There is a history to every product, and not only do we learn a lot by
comparing past to present, but the latest version of LC that people take
for granted owes a lot of fixes and some features to Paul in particular due
to his meticulous work and testing, providing a huge benefit to the entire
community!

It's wonderful to keep up with recent LC releases, especially where Apple
is concerned, but sometimes circumstances and LC bugs/features can affect
the speed of that process. Then you have people who grab the latest DP,
precisely because it is the very latest thing, and get confused trying to
tell the difference between their own bugs and DP bugs. I help people with
that often enough to know that a chorus of "just grab the latest" is advice
that needs clarification.

Paul:
> We are seeing a weird menu rendering issues under OSX

I believe this menu issue is also a current bug in LC 8.1.2! Haven't
tried it yet in LC 9, but I will soon. LC 6.6 was okay, so it must have
been introduced in 6.7 and remained until now.

Craig:
> I am hunkered down in v6 until I can swallow the new "look"
> of v8/9. The only thing I really miss from those is the new
> multi-char itemDelimiter.

Change for the sake of change keeps some people incredibly happy, others
less so! The new interface does take some getting used to, and the old
interface definitely had its strengths too, as I've realized lately with
certain particular tasks and with teaching others. Much to learn from
comparing and critiquing LC versions, enjoying the very latest as well as
some past specimens!

Best wishes,

Curry Kenworthy

Custom Software Development
http://livecodeconsulting.com/


___
use-livecode mailing list
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
subscription preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode



___
use-livecode mailing list
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
subscription preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode


___
use-livecode mailing list
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your 
subscription preferences:

http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode




___
use-livecode mailing list
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode

Re: Help: Odd menu behavior under LC6.7.11 on OSX

[Roger Eller via use-livecode]

6.7.5 is my poison of choice.  8.x gives an error when it opens.  Bug was
reported several times, but it's still there, even in the latest.  Also, my
Windows applications are tightly spaced in the UI department, and 8.x text
spacing goes crazy. It would take a lot of time to go through everything
and adjust the text spacing.

~Roger

On Jan 12, 2017 3:16 AM, "Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode" <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> If you want to talk about a "perv": I'm currently using 7.1.4 for all my
> development work.
>
> Richmond.
>
> On 1/12/17 12:02 am, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote:
>
>>
>> Richmond:
>> > Well, the first question anyone is going to ask is why
>> > on earth you are using 6.7.11?
>>
>> Don't forget to use "OMG/LOL/derisno/perv" as in for example: "OMG, why
>> are you using 6.7, are you a total perv? Derisno past! LOL." :)
>>
>> There is a history to every product, and not only do we learn a lot by
>> comparing past to present, but the latest version of LC that people take
>> for granted owes a lot of fixes and some features to Paul in particular due
>> to his meticulous work and testing, providing a huge benefit to the entire
>> community!
>>
>> It's wonderful to keep up with recent LC releases, especially where Apple
>> is concerned, but sometimes circumstances and LC bugs/features can affect
>> the speed of that process. Then you have people who grab the latest DP,
>> precisely because it is the very latest thing, and get confused trying to
>> tell the difference between their own bugs and DP bugs. I help people with
>> that often enough to know that a chorus of "just grab the latest" is advice
>> that needs clarification.
>>
>> Paul:
>> > We are seeing a weird menu rendering issues under OSX
>>
>> I believe this menu issue is also a current bug in LC 8.1.2! Haven't
>> tried it yet in LC 9, but I will soon. LC 6.6 was okay, so it must have
>> been introduced in 6.7 and remained until now.
>>
>> Craig:
>> > I am hunkered down in v6 until I can swallow the new "look"
>> > of v8/9. The only thing I really miss from those is the new
>> > multi-char itemDelimiter.
>>
>> Change for the sake of change keeps some people incredibly happy, others
>> less so! The new interface does take some getting used to, and the old
>> interface definitely had its strengths too, as I've realized lately with
>> certain particular tasks and with teaching others. Much to learn from
>> comparing and critiquing LC versions, enjoying the very latest as well as
>> some past specimens!
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Curry Kenworthy
>>
>> Custom Software Development
>> http://livecodeconsulting.com/
>>
>>
>> ___
>> use-livecode mailing list
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
>> subscription preferences:
>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
>>
>
> ___
> use-livecode mailing list
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
> subscription preferences:
> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
>
___
use-livecode mailing list
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode

Re: Help: Odd menu behavior under LC6.7.11 on OSX

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

If you want to talk about a "perv": I'm currently using 7.1.4 for all my 
development work.


Richmond.

On 1/12/17 12:02 am, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote:


Richmond:
> Well, the first question anyone is going to ask is why
> on earth you are using 6.7.11?

Don't forget to use "OMG/LOL/derisno/perv" as in for example: "OMG, 
why are you using 6.7, are you a total perv? Derisno past! LOL." :)


There is a history to every product, and not only do we learn a lot by 
comparing past to present, but the latest version of LC that people 
take for granted owes a lot of fixes and some features to Paul in 
particular due to his meticulous work and testing, providing a huge 
benefit to the entire community!


It's wonderful to keep up with recent LC releases, especially where 
Apple is concerned, but sometimes circumstances and LC bugs/features 
can affect the speed of that process. Then you have people who grab 
the latest DP, precisely because it is the very latest thing, and get 
confused trying to tell the difference between their own bugs and DP 
bugs. I help people with that often enough to know that a chorus of 
"just grab the latest" is advice that needs clarification.


Paul:
> We are seeing a weird menu rendering issues under OSX

I believe this menu issue is also a current bug in LC 8.1.2! Haven't 
tried it yet in LC 9, but I will soon. LC 6.6 was okay, so it must 
have been introduced in 6.7 and remained until now.


Craig:
> I am hunkered down in v6 until I can swallow the new "look"
> of v8/9. The only thing I really miss from those is the new
> multi-char itemDelimiter.

Change for the sake of change keeps some people incredibly happy, 
others less so! The new interface does take some getting used to, and 
the old interface definitely had its strengths too, as I've realized 
lately with certain particular tasks and with teaching others. Much to 
learn from comparing and critiquing LC versions, enjoying the very 
latest as well as some past specimens!


Best wishes,

Curry Kenworthy

Custom Software Development
http://livecodeconsulting.com/


___
use-livecode mailing list
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your 
subscription preferences:

http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode


___
use-livecode mailing list
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode

Re: Help: Odd menu behavior under LC6.7.11 on OSX

[Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode]

Richmond:
> Well, the first question anyone is going to ask is why
> on earth you are using 6.7.11?

Don't forget to use "OMG/LOL/derisno/perv" as in for example: "OMG, why 
are you using 6.7, are you a total perv? Derisno past! LOL." :)


There is a history to every product, and not only do we learn a lot by 
comparing past to present, but the latest version of LC that people take 
for granted owes a lot of fixes and some features to Paul in particular 
due to his meticulous work and testing, providing a huge benefit to the 
entire community!


It's wonderful to keep up with recent LC releases, especially where 
Apple is concerned, but sometimes circumstances and LC bugs/features can 
affect the speed of that process. Then you have people who grab the 
latest DP, precisely because it is the very latest thing, and get 
confused trying to tell the difference between their own bugs and DP 
bugs. I help people with that often enough to know that a chorus of 
"just grab the latest" is advice that needs clarification.


Paul:
> We are seeing a weird menu rendering issues under OSX

I believe this menu issue is also a current bug in LC 8.1.2! Haven't 
tried it yet in LC 9, but I will soon. LC 6.6 was okay, so it must have 
been introduced in 6.7 and remained until now.


Craig:
> I am hunkered down in v6 until I can swallow the new "look"
> of v8/9. The only thing I really miss from those is the new
> multi-char itemDelimiter.

Change for the sake of change keeps some people incredibly happy, others 
less so! The new interface does take some getting used to, and the old 
interface definitely had its strengths too, as I've realized lately with 
certain particular tasks and with teaching others. Much to learn from 
comparing and critiquing LC versions, enjoying the very latest as well 
as some past specimens!


Best wishes,

Curry Kenworthy

Custom Software Development
http://livecodeconsulting.com/


___
use-livecode mailing list
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode

Re: Help: Odd menu behavior under LC6.7.11 on OSX

[dunbarx via use-livecode]

Hi.

6.7 on Mavericks

I am hunkered down in v6 until I can swallow the new "look" of v8/9. The
only thing I really miss from those is the new multi-char itemDelimiter.

Craig



--
View this message in context: 
http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Help-Odd-menu-behavior-under-LC6-7-11-on-OSX-tp4711552p4711557.html
Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

___
use-livecode mailing list
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode

Re: Help: Odd menu behavior under LC6.7.11 on OSX

[Paul Dupuis via use-livecode]

On 1/9/2017 3:12 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:
> Well, the first question anyone is going to ask is why on earth you are
> using 6.7.11?
>
> PPC Macs?
>
> "can not move to new versions"
>
> Money for commercial version?
>
> Richmond.

In this case, we have part of our application that are not yet
compatible with LC 7 or higher, but that is irrelevant. We are at
6.7.11, do not want to move to a newer release at this time, and want to
track down the issue.

___
use-livecode mailing list
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode

Re: Help: Odd menu behavior under LC6.7.11 on OSX

[Paul Dupuis via use-livecode]

On 1/9/2017 3:16 PM, dunbarx via use-livecode wrote:
> I am still in 6.7 and perfectly fine.
>
> So if you click on the "File" menu, and then release and then click on
> "Edit", I assume the menuItems for "Edit" appear normally? It is only when
> you click on "File" and then, mouse-still-down, move over to "Edit" that the
> thing happens?
>
>
Thank you for the information! Every bit will probably be useful in
tracking this issue down.

Yes, you have the correct user behavior that shows a problem on our
machines. May I ask what version of OSX you are running LC 6.7.11 on? We
have 6.7.11 on a Snow Leopard laptop that does NOT exhibit the bad
behavior, but our Mavericks, Yosemite, and El Capitan systems DO exhibit
the bad behavior. Also, are you running 6.7.11 or an earlier version of 6.7?

___
use-livecode mailing list
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode

Re: Help: Odd menu behavior under LC6.7.11 on OSX

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

Well, the first question anyone is going to ask is why on earth you are
using 6.7.11?

PPC Macs?

"can not move to new versions"

Money for commercial version?

Richmond.

On 1/9/17 9:56 pm, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote:

We're developing under LC6.7.11 and can not move to new versions of LC
just at the moment. We are seeing a weird menu rendering issues under
OSX (Mavericks through El Capitan).

Our group object for our menu buttons has an 'on mouseDown' handler that
looks at various object states and updates (enables/disables, revises
wording, etc.) menu items in all the menus of the menubar accordingly.
i.e. Edit > Copy is not enabled unless there is something to Copy and so on.

We build the app for Windows and OSX. The code works correctly under
Windows. On OSX what we see is that if you click and hold the mouse down
on a menu, File, for example, the state of all items in the File menu
are reflected correctly. If you continue to hold the mouse down and drag
over to the Edit menu to view that, it reflects the prior menuitem
states, not what the script just updated them to. If you release the
button and click on Edit, it now renders the Edit menuItems with the
correct states.

Has anyone working in 6.7.11 currently or when previously working in
6.7.11 seen anything like this?

___
use-livecode mailing list
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode


___
use-livecode mailing list
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode

Re: Help: Odd menu behavior under LC6.7.11 on OSX

[dunbarx via use-livecode]

I am still in 6.7 and perfectly fine.

So if you click on the "File" menu, and then release and then click on
"Edit", I assume the menuItems for "Edit" appear normally? It is only when
you click on "File" and then, mouse-still-down, move over to "Edit" that the
thing happens?

Craig



--
View this message in context: 
http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Help-Odd-menu-behavior-under-LC6-7-11-on-OSX-tp4711552p4711554.html
Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

___
use-livecode mailing list
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode