Re: Odd behavior in Win8-I'm stuck fixing it, Help??
Paul: You’re right! Thanks for correcting this. This “from Rect” part is completely unnecessary. My earlier version, which captured the screen, also captured any IDE windows in from of the capture region. However, even with the RECT part of the command, the windows in front of the capture region were not captured. But, it makes sense what you said, works the same, and I’ll make the changes. Thanks again! Bill On Aug 8, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org wrote: Hi Bill, Sorry for the delay replying, I’ve been away from home for a few days. I don’t think line 6 will give the result you are looking for, I would change it to: 6. export snapshot from Group snapshotGrp with metadata theMetadataArray to image mySnapShot i.e. Remove the “from rect” part of the command. Using from rect” still relies on the computer hardware to produce the snapshot, where as “from object” allows LC to render the snapshot with whatever parameters you supply. I’ve saved a test stack to dropbox, hopefully this will demonstrate the differences a little better: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xkx2fk4a2mel6l3/Export%20High%20Res%20Image.livecode?dl=0 I hope this helps resolve the problem. Regards, Paul On Aug 6, 2015, at 11:00, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Paul: One more thing. My test uses a variable “theMetadataArray”, which is not set, so is blank. The manual states: metadata - The metadata is an array of metadata. Currently the only key supported is density with a value in pixels per inch (ppi). So, I wonder if, to get the benefit, I have to set pixels per inch somehow, in theMetadataArray. Best, Bill On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:57 AM, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Paul: FYI, I set up a test stack to figure out how to use the “from object” method of getting a snapshot image. Here’s the steps I followed: 1. put all images that are to be captured in a group. 2. set the group rect to the desired snapshot rect 3. Lock the group rect 4. Set the group to scaling 5. In the script: set the snapRect to the rect of the group 6. export snapshot from rect snapRect of Group snapshotGrp with metadata theMetadataArray to image mySnapShot 7. set the rect of img mySnapShot to snapRect 8. set the visible if img mySnapShot to TRUE Perhaps this will help others. I have no idea if this would solve the problem an occasional student has, but the method works fine in Macintosh OS 10.10.4 and livecode 7.0.6 What I have is a very large map image in the group. The map is magnified, scrolled, etc. When some kinds of data are plotted, graphic and field object are placed in the correct locations over the map. Then the snapshot is taken and the graphic objects (except for the map) are deleted. For large symbol datasets, like earthquakes, I draw the symbols directly into the snapshot graphic. That way the image data is much smaller than if I tried to draw into the large map, and also, the large map doesn’t need to be refreshed when data are erased from view. Thanks again for the hints. Best, Bill On Aug 3, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org wrote: Bill, I’ve done a few tests and it appears to me that from rect” still relies on the screen output from the computer, whereas “from object” allows LC to render an image of an object independent of the screen hardware. Try this: Move your stack so the map image is half off the screen, then make the snapshot, the image doesn’t render completely, this suggests to me that the app is accessing a screen representation of the image rather than using LC’s internal rendering, so 'I think' changing the snap routine to make a snap from say a group of the map and it’s associated data may cure the problem. eg. export snapshot from group “mapAndData” to image “mapSnap” — then try the test above again. Paul On Aug 3, 2015, at 16:22, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Paul: Thanks for the hint. I do use the newer “from” syntax. export snapshot from rect snapRect to image mapSnap Thanks, Bill On Jul 31, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org wrote: Bill, I’ve just read the following explanation from RG relating to another snapshot problem and wondered if it also relates to your student’s problems… The from option renders the object into a new buffer set up just for the snapshot, while the older of syntax grabs the object's rect from the composite screen buffer. LiveCode renders only the content region of a window but the window itself is rendered by the OS, so it has no choice but to obtain that image from the screen buffer. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.com
Re: Odd behavior in Win8-I'm stuck fixing it, Help??
Hi Bill, Sorry for the delay replying, I’ve been away from home for a few days. I don’t think line 6 will give the result you are looking for, I would change it to: 6. export snapshot from Group snapshotGrp with metadata theMetadataArray to image mySnapShot i.e. Remove the “from rect” part of the command. Using from rect” still relies on the computer hardware to produce the snapshot, where as “from object” allows LC to render the snapshot with whatever parameters you supply. I’ve saved a test stack to dropbox, hopefully this will demonstrate the differences a little better: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xkx2fk4a2mel6l3/Export%20High%20Res%20Image.livecode?dl=0 I hope this helps resolve the problem. Regards, Paul On Aug 6, 2015, at 11:00, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Paul: One more thing. My test uses a variable “theMetadataArray”, which is not set, so is blank. The manual states: metadata - The metadata is an array of metadata. Currently the only key supported is density with a value in pixels per inch (ppi). So, I wonder if, to get the benefit, I have to set pixels per inch somehow, in theMetadataArray. Best, Bill On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:57 AM, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Paul: FYI, I set up a test stack to figure out how to use the “from object” method of getting a snapshot image. Here’s the steps I followed: 1. put all images that are to be captured in a group. 2. set the group rect to the desired snapshot rect 3. Lock the group rect 4. Set the group to scaling 5. In the script: set the snapRect to the rect of the group 6. export snapshot from rect snapRect of Group snapshotGrp with metadata theMetadataArray to image mySnapShot 7. set the rect of img mySnapShot to snapRect 8. set the visible if img mySnapShot to TRUE Perhaps this will help others. I have no idea if this would solve the problem an occasional student has, but the method works fine in Macintosh OS 10.10.4 and livecode 7.0.6 What I have is a very large map image in the group. The map is magnified, scrolled, etc. When some kinds of data are plotted, graphic and field object are placed in the correct locations over the map. Then the snapshot is taken and the graphic objects (except for the map) are deleted. For large symbol datasets, like earthquakes, I draw the symbols directly into the snapshot graphic. That way the image data is much smaller than if I tried to draw into the large map, and also, the large map doesn’t need to be refreshed when data are erased from view. Thanks again for the hints. Best, Bill On Aug 3, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org wrote: Bill, I’ve done a few tests and it appears to me that from rect” still relies on the screen output from the computer, whereas “from object” allows LC to render an image of an object independent of the screen hardware. Try this: Move your stack so the map image is half off the screen, then make the snapshot, the image doesn’t render completely, this suggests to me that the app is accessing a screen representation of the image rather than using LC’s internal rendering, so 'I think' changing the snap routine to make a snap from say a group of the map and it’s associated data may cure the problem. eg. export snapshot from group “mapAndData” to image “mapSnap” — then try the test above again. Paul On Aug 3, 2015, at 16:22, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Paul: Thanks for the hint. I do use the newer “from” syntax. export snapshot from rect snapRect to image mapSnap Thanks, Bill On Jul 31, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org wrote: Bill, I’ve just read the following explanation from RG relating to another snapshot problem and wondered if it also relates to your student’s problems… The from option renders the object into a new buffer set up just for the snapshot, while the older of syntax grabs the object's rect from the composite screen buffer. LiveCode renders only the content region of a window but the window itself is rendered by the OS, so it has no choice but to obtain that image from the screen buffer. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com When I first read your post I wondered if the problem could be due to low grade or incompatible video cards in the affected machines, if that’s the case then the above explanation would make sense, to me at least. So, the question is, does your export snapshot script use the “from” or “of” option? If it’s the “of” option then switching to the “from” option may fix the problem your students are seeing. Just a thought. Paul On Jul 16, 2015, at 14:07, William Prothero
Re: Odd behavior in Win8-I'm stuck fixing it, Help??
Paul: FYI, I set up a test stack to figure out how to use the “from object” method of getting a snapshot image. Here’s the steps I followed: 1. put all images that are to be captured in a group. 2. set the group rect to the desired snapshot rect 3. Lock the group rect 4. Set the group to scaling 5. In the script: set the snapRect to the rect of the group 6. export snapshot from rect snapRect of Group snapshotGrp with metadata theMetadataArray to image mySnapShot 7. set the rect of img mySnapShot to snapRect 8. set the visible if img mySnapShot to TRUE Perhaps this will help others. I have no idea if this would solve the problem an occasional student has, but the method works fine in Macintosh OS 10.10.4 and livecode 7.0.6 What I have is a very large map image in the group. The map is magnified, scrolled, etc. When some kinds of data are plotted, graphic and field object are placed in the correct locations over the map. Then the snapshot is taken and the graphic objects (except for the map) are deleted. For large symbol datasets, like earthquakes, I draw the symbols directly into the snapshot graphic. That way the image data is much smaller than if I tried to draw into the large map, and also, the large map doesn’t need to be refreshed when data are erased from view. Thanks again for the hints. Best, Bill On Aug 3, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org wrote: Bill, I’ve done a few tests and it appears to me that from rect” still relies on the screen output from the computer, whereas “from object” allows LC to render an image of an object independent of the screen hardware. Try this: Move your stack so the map image is half off the screen, then make the snapshot, the image doesn’t render completely, this suggests to me that the app is accessing a screen representation of the image rather than using LC’s internal rendering, so 'I think' changing the snap routine to make a snap from say a group of the map and it’s associated data may cure the problem. eg. export snapshot from group “mapAndData” to image “mapSnap” — then try the test above again. Paul On Aug 3, 2015, at 16:22, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Paul: Thanks for the hint. I do use the newer “from” syntax. export snapshot from rect snapRect to image mapSnap Thanks, Bill On Jul 31, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org wrote: Bill, I’ve just read the following explanation from RG relating to another snapshot problem and wondered if it also relates to your student’s problems… The from option renders the object into a new buffer set up just for the snapshot, while the older of syntax grabs the object's rect from the composite screen buffer. LiveCode renders only the content region of a window but the window itself is rendered by the OS, so it has no choice but to obtain that image from the screen buffer. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com When I first read your post I wondered if the problem could be due to low grade or incompatible video cards in the affected machines, if that’s the case then the above explanation would make sense, to me at least. So, the question is, does your export snapshot script use the “from” or “of” option? If it’s the “of” option then switching to the “from” option may fix the problem your students are seeing. Just a thought. Paul On Jul 16, 2015, at 14:07, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Folks: I have an application that is being used by a class of Earth Science students and get failure reports from two who use Windows 8. One lives in Australia and one lives in Japan. The app works fine on Macintosh. I’ve also tested it on my own installation of both Windows 8.1 and 7, 32 bit and 64 bit versions. I can’t get the reported pixellation of the map and screen. I’m wondering if it is something related to foreign installations. The symptom is extreme pixellation of images captured with the export snapshot” command. I live in the US. So, I wonder if somebody with Windows 8 would be willing to download the app and try it, and perhaps give me an idea of what might be going on. If it’s a bug in “snapshot”, it would be important to be reported and fixed. Otherwise, I’m pretty stuck on figuring out what is going on. Here are links: Windows zip file of the app: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lsn087vrhstxvg4/PT_Explorer-Windows.zip?dl=0 Pixellated Image sent by a student https://www.dropbox.com/s/m2frv9i0dg7mxtp/Explorer%20in%20Windows%208.1.pdf?dl=0 Thanks for any help or feedback you can give me. Regards, Bill William A. Prothero http://es.earthednet.org/
Re: Odd behavior in Win8-I'm stuck fixing it, Help??
Paul: One more thing. My test uses a variable “theMetadataArray”, which is not set, so is blank. The manual states: metadata - The metadata is an array of metadata. Currently the only key supported is density with a value in pixels per inch (ppi). So, I wonder if, to get the benefit, I have to set pixels per inch somehow, in theMetadataArray. Best, Bill On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:57 AM, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Paul: FYI, I set up a test stack to figure out how to use the “from object” method of getting a snapshot image. Here’s the steps I followed: 1. put all images that are to be captured in a group. 2. set the group rect to the desired snapshot rect 3. Lock the group rect 4. Set the group to scaling 5. In the script: set the snapRect to the rect of the group 6. export snapshot from rect snapRect of Group snapshotGrp with metadata theMetadataArray to image mySnapShot 7. set the rect of img mySnapShot to snapRect 8. set the visible if img mySnapShot to TRUE Perhaps this will help others. I have no idea if this would solve the problem an occasional student has, but the method works fine in Macintosh OS 10.10.4 and livecode 7.0.6 What I have is a very large map image in the group. The map is magnified, scrolled, etc. When some kinds of data are plotted, graphic and field object are placed in the correct locations over the map. Then the snapshot is taken and the graphic objects (except for the map) are deleted. For large symbol datasets, like earthquakes, I draw the symbols directly into the snapshot graphic. That way the image data is much smaller than if I tried to draw into the large map, and also, the large map doesn’t need to be refreshed when data are erased from view. Thanks again for the hints. Best, Bill On Aug 3, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org wrote: Bill, I’ve done a few tests and it appears to me that from rect” still relies on the screen output from the computer, whereas “from object” allows LC to render an image of an object independent of the screen hardware. Try this: Move your stack so the map image is half off the screen, then make the snapshot, the image doesn’t render completely, this suggests to me that the app is accessing a screen representation of the image rather than using LC’s internal rendering, so 'I think' changing the snap routine to make a snap from say a group of the map and it’s associated data may cure the problem. eg. export snapshot from group “mapAndData” to image “mapSnap” — then try the test above again. Paul On Aug 3, 2015, at 16:22, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Paul: Thanks for the hint. I do use the newer “from” syntax. export snapshot from rect snapRect to image mapSnap Thanks, Bill On Jul 31, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org wrote: Bill, I’ve just read the following explanation from RG relating to another snapshot problem and wondered if it also relates to your student’s problems… The from option renders the object into a new buffer set up just for the snapshot, while the older of syntax grabs the object's rect from the composite screen buffer. LiveCode renders only the content region of a window but the window itself is rendered by the OS, so it has no choice but to obtain that image from the screen buffer. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com When I first read your post I wondered if the problem could be due to low grade or incompatible video cards in the affected machines, if that’s the case then the above explanation would make sense, to me at least. So, the question is, does your export snapshot script use the “from” or “of” option? If it’s the “of” option then switching to the “from” option may fix the problem your students are seeing. Just a thought. Paul On Jul 16, 2015, at 14:07, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Folks: I have an application that is being used by a class of Earth Science students and get failure reports from two who use Windows 8. One lives in Australia and one lives in Japan. The app works fine on Macintosh. I’ve also tested it on my own installation of both Windows 8.1 and 7, 32 bit and 64 bit versions. I can’t get the reported pixellation of the map and screen. I’m wondering if it is something related to foreign installations. The symptom is extreme pixellation of images captured with the export snapshot” command. I live in the US. So, I wonder if somebody with Windows 8 would be willing to download the app and try it, and perhaps give me an idea of what might be going on. If it’s a bug in “snapshot”, it would be important to be reported and
Re: Odd behavior in Win8-I'm stuck fixing it, Help??
Paul: Thanks, I’m trying it out. Of course, I won’t be able to tell if it solves the problem until the next student has a problem, but it’s a good idea anyway. Unfortunately, due to the way I’ve set up the data plotting, it’s going to be a fairly big job. I rely heavily on screen capture, but it’s most likely worth the modifications. Regards, Bill On Aug 3, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org wrote: Bill, I’ve done a few tests and it appears to me that from rect” still relies on the screen output from the computer, whereas “from object” allows LC to render an image of an object independent of the screen hardware. Try this: Move your stack so the map image is half off the screen, then make the snapshot, the image doesn’t render completely, this suggests to me that the app is accessing a screen representation of the image rather than using LC’s internal rendering, so 'I think' changing the snap routine to make a snap from say a group of the map and it’s associated data may cure the problem. eg. export snapshot from group “mapAndData” to image “mapSnap” — then try the test above again. Paul On Aug 3, 2015, at 16:22, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Paul: Thanks for the hint. I do use the newer “from” syntax. export snapshot from rect snapRect to image mapSnap Thanks, Bill On Jul 31, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org wrote: Bill, I’ve just read the following explanation from RG relating to another snapshot problem and wondered if it also relates to your student’s problems… The from option renders the object into a new buffer set up just for the snapshot, while the older of syntax grabs the object's rect from the composite screen buffer. LiveCode renders only the content region of a window but the window itself is rendered by the OS, so it has no choice but to obtain that image from the screen buffer. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com When I first read your post I wondered if the problem could be due to low grade or incompatible video cards in the affected machines, if that’s the case then the above explanation would make sense, to me at least. So, the question is, does your export snapshot script use the “from” or “of” option? If it’s the “of” option then switching to the “from” option may fix the problem your students are seeing. Just a thought. Paul On Jul 16, 2015, at 14:07, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Folks: I have an application that is being used by a class of Earth Science students and get failure reports from two who use Windows 8. One lives in Australia and one lives in Japan. The app works fine on Macintosh. I’ve also tested it on my own installation of both Windows 8.1 and 7, 32 bit and 64 bit versions. I can’t get the reported pixellation of the map and screen. I’m wondering if it is something related to foreign installations. The symptom is extreme pixellation of images captured with the export snapshot” command. I live in the US. So, I wonder if somebody with Windows 8 would be willing to download the app and try it, and perhaps give me an idea of what might be going on. If it’s a bug in “snapshot”, it would be important to be reported and fixed. Otherwise, I’m pretty stuck on figuring out what is going on. Here are links: Windows zip file of the app: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lsn087vrhstxvg4/PT_Explorer-Windows.zip?dl=0 Pixellated Image sent by a student https://www.dropbox.com/s/m2frv9i0dg7mxtp/Explorer%20in%20Windows%208.1.pdf?dl=0 Thanks for any help or feedback you can give me. Regards, Bill William A. Prothero http://es.earthednet.org/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Regards, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Regards, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe,
Re: Odd behavior in Win8-I'm stuck fixing it, Help??
Paul: Thanks for the hint. I do use the newer “from” syntax. export snapshot from rect snapRect to image mapSnap Thanks, Bill On Jul 31, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org wrote: Bill, I’ve just read the following explanation from RG relating to another snapshot problem and wondered if it also relates to your student’s problems… The from option renders the object into a new buffer set up just for the snapshot, while the older of syntax grabs the object's rect from the composite screen buffer. LiveCode renders only the content region of a window but the window itself is rendered by the OS, so it has no choice but to obtain that image from the screen buffer. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com When I first read your post I wondered if the problem could be due to low grade or incompatible video cards in the affected machines, if that’s the case then the above explanation would make sense, to me at least. So, the question is, does your export snapshot script use the “from” or “of” option? If it’s the “of” option then switching to the “from” option may fix the problem your students are seeing. Just a thought. Paul On Jul 16, 2015, at 14:07, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Folks: I have an application that is being used by a class of Earth Science students and get failure reports from two who use Windows 8. One lives in Australia and one lives in Japan. The app works fine on Macintosh. I’ve also tested it on my own installation of both Windows 8.1 and 7, 32 bit and 64 bit versions. I can’t get the reported pixellation of the map and screen. I’m wondering if it is something related to foreign installations. The symptom is extreme pixellation of images captured with the export snapshot” command. I live in the US. So, I wonder if somebody with Windows 8 would be willing to download the app and try it, and perhaps give me an idea of what might be going on. If it’s a bug in “snapshot”, it would be important to be reported and fixed. Otherwise, I’m pretty stuck on figuring out what is going on. Here are links: Windows zip file of the app: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lsn087vrhstxvg4/PT_Explorer-Windows.zip?dl=0 Pixellated Image sent by a student https://www.dropbox.com/s/m2frv9i0dg7mxtp/Explorer%20in%20Windows%208.1.pdf?dl=0 Thanks for any help or feedback you can give me. Regards, Bill William A. Prothero http://es.earthednet.org/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Regards, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Odd behavior in Win8-I'm stuck fixing it, Help??
Bill, I’ve done a few tests and it appears to me that from rect” still relies on the screen output from the computer, whereas “from object” allows LC to render an image of an object independent of the screen hardware. Try this: Move your stack so the map image is half off the screen, then make the snapshot, the image doesn’t render completely, this suggests to me that the app is accessing a screen representation of the image rather than using LC’s internal rendering, so 'I think' changing the snap routine to make a snap from say a group of the map and it’s associated data may cure the problem. eg. export snapshot from group “mapAndData” to image “mapSnap” — then try the test above again. Paul On Aug 3, 2015, at 16:22, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Paul: Thanks for the hint. I do use the newer “from” syntax. export snapshot from rect snapRect to image mapSnap Thanks, Bill On Jul 31, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org wrote: Bill, I’ve just read the following explanation from RG relating to another snapshot problem and wondered if it also relates to your student’s problems… The from option renders the object into a new buffer set up just for the snapshot, while the older of syntax grabs the object's rect from the composite screen buffer. LiveCode renders only the content region of a window but the window itself is rendered by the OS, so it has no choice but to obtain that image from the screen buffer. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com When I first read your post I wondered if the problem could be due to low grade or incompatible video cards in the affected machines, if that’s the case then the above explanation would make sense, to me at least. So, the question is, does your export snapshot script use the “from” or “of” option? If it’s the “of” option then switching to the “from” option may fix the problem your students are seeing. Just a thought. Paul On Jul 16, 2015, at 14:07, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Folks: I have an application that is being used by a class of Earth Science students and get failure reports from two who use Windows 8. One lives in Australia and one lives in Japan. The app works fine on Macintosh. I’ve also tested it on my own installation of both Windows 8.1 and 7, 32 bit and 64 bit versions. I can’t get the reported pixellation of the map and screen. I’m wondering if it is something related to foreign installations. The symptom is extreme pixellation of images captured with the export snapshot” command. I live in the US. So, I wonder if somebody with Windows 8 would be willing to download the app and try it, and perhaps give me an idea of what might be going on. If it’s a bug in “snapshot”, it would be important to be reported and fixed. Otherwise, I’m pretty stuck on figuring out what is going on. Here are links: Windows zip file of the app: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lsn087vrhstxvg4/PT_Explorer-Windows.zip?dl=0 Pixellated Image sent by a student https://www.dropbox.com/s/m2frv9i0dg7mxtp/Explorer%20in%20Windows%208.1.pdf?dl=0 Thanks for any help or feedback you can give me. Regards, Bill William A. Prothero http://es.earthednet.org/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Regards, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Regards, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Odd behavior in Win8-I'm stuck fixing it, Help??
Mark, I got it. Haven't seriously used it yet, but will very soon. Bill William Prothero http://ed.earthednet.org On Jul 31, 2015, at 3:48 PM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Hi Bill, I just noticed the second paragraph of your message. I trust you have received the license by now. If not, let me know. I'm really glad you like the book enough to buy a replacement copy! -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/20/2015 05:10, William Prothero wrote: Mark: Thanks for testing this. It does give me more confidence that it’s some oddity on the student’s computer. FYI: I have bought your book (2 of ‘em. I lost one) and InstallerMaker (still haven’t gotten a license emailed, tho). The 3 days aren’t up, tho. Anyway, I’m looking forward to using it. Best, Bill On Jul 19, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Okay. With this info, I'm unable to see any pixelation. I have tested the app on a 2.2 Ghz laptop with 4 GB built-in memory running Windows 8.1, i.e. nothing fancy and your students probably have a similar or better configuration. The sytem is Dutch. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/20/2015 00:43, William Prothero wrote: Mark: Keeping in mind that the info I got was from my teacher/collaborator, Sabina Thomas, and her info was during an online video chat with one of her students in Japan, what I understand is that the pixellation showed up after opening the MAP part of the application, doing a profile plot, then plotting Quakes from the “Select Data To Be Plotted” dropdown menu. That’s the information I have. I hope you don’t waste too much time on this because there is so little available information to help in debugging the situation. At this point, my solution is to try to get as many folks as possible to try it on Win8, and if the problem occurs again, beg, pay, whatever to get them to provide more detailed information about their computer and its settings. I think if you have any hunches or WIn8 idiosyncrasy info that could affect this, I could explore that further, but ….. I’m reluctant to bug Sabina’s student further about this. BUT, I am wondering if there is an app she might download that could send me information about her computer, that would help. Just thinking aloud. She might be willing to do that. Thanks for looking at this. I really appreciate it. Best, Bill On Jul 19, 2015, at 3:23 PM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: _Where_ and _when_ should the pixelation show up exactly? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/19/2015 23:42, William Prothero wrote: Mark: The pixellation should show up on the steps you took. However, I don’t see it and another LiveCoder who downloaded it and played it on Windows 8 doesn’t see it. Lowering the screen resolution shows the effect, but that would show the entire window pixellated, and that isn’t what is shown on the image. Only the part that is snapshot’d shows the pixellation. It really stumps me. I’m wondering if there could be some kind of jpg difference between countries. I could understand possible font differences, but the problem is the snapshot area(s). I’m wondering if there could be some timing problem, rarely seen, where the snapshot is taken before the underlying image is fully updated. The map image is a big one, with its size and location changed, but the data plot is just a group of lines and fields which is displayed, then snapshot’d. Debugging this seems hopeless without being able to reproduce the effect, though. At this stage, unless there is something about Windows and ‘png’ files in Japan, perhaps with a different language, I don’t know how to debug it. It’s very hard to get students to give feedback, after the assignment is over and they are onto
Re: Odd behavior in Win8-I'm stuck fixing it, Help??
Tom, Great call! I'll check it out. Dtill on the road, so it will take a couple ofdays. Thanks, Bill William Prothero http://ed.earthednet.org On Jul 31, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org wrote: Bill, I’ve just read the following explanation from RG relating to another snapshot problem and wondered if it also relates to your student’s problems… The from option renders the object into a new buffer set up just for the snapshot, while the older of syntax grabs the object's rect from the composite screen buffer. LiveCode renders only the content region of a window but the window itself is rendered by the OS, so it has no choice but to obtain that image from the screen buffer. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com When I first read your post I wondered if the problem could be due to low grade or incompatible video cards in the affected machines, if that’s the case then the above explanation would make sense, to me at least. So, the question is, does your export snapshot script use the “from” or “of” option? If it’s the “of” option then switching to the “from” option may fix the problem your students are seeing. Just a thought. Paul On Jul 16, 2015, at 14:07, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Folks: I have an application that is being used by a class of Earth Science students and get failure reports from two who use Windows 8. One lives in Australia and one lives in Japan. The app works fine on Macintosh. I’ve also tested it on my own installation of both Windows 8.1 and 7, 32 bit and 64 bit versions. I can’t get the reported pixellation of the map and screen. I’m wondering if it is something related to foreign installations. The symptom is extreme pixellation of images captured with the export snapshot” command. I live in the US. So, I wonder if somebody with Windows 8 would be willing to download the app and try it, and perhaps give me an idea of what might be going on. If it’s a bug in “snapshot”, it would be important to be reported and fixed. Otherwise, I’m pretty stuck on figuring out what is going on. Here are links: Windows zip file of the app: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lsn087vrhstxvg4/PT_Explorer-Windows.zip?dl=0 Pixellated Image sent by a student https://www.dropbox.com/s/m2frv9i0dg7mxtp/Explorer%20in%20Windows%208.1.pdf?dl=0 Thanks for any help or feedback you can give me. Regards, Bill William A. Prothero http://es.earthednet.org/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Regards, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Odd behavior in Win8-I'm stuck fixing it, Help??
Bill, I’ve just read the following explanation from RG relating to another snapshot problem and wondered if it also relates to your student’s problems… The from option renders the object into a new buffer set up just for the snapshot, while the older of syntax grabs the object's rect from the composite screen buffer. LiveCode renders only the content region of a window but the window itself is rendered by the OS, so it has no choice but to obtain that image from the screen buffer. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com When I first read your post I wondered if the problem could be due to low grade or incompatible video cards in the affected machines, if that’s the case then the above explanation would make sense, to me at least. So, the question is, does your export snapshot script use the “from” or “of” option? If it’s the “of” option then switching to the “from” option may fix the problem your students are seeing. Just a thought. Paul On Jul 16, 2015, at 14:07, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Folks: I have an application that is being used by a class of Earth Science students and get failure reports from two who use Windows 8. One lives in Australia and one lives in Japan. The app works fine on Macintosh. I’ve also tested it on my own installation of both Windows 8.1 and 7, 32 bit and 64 bit versions. I can’t get the reported pixellation of the map and screen. I’m wondering if it is something related to foreign installations. The symptom is extreme pixellation of images captured with the export snapshot” command. I live in the US. So, I wonder if somebody with Windows 8 would be willing to download the app and try it, and perhaps give me an idea of what might be going on. If it’s a bug in “snapshot”, it would be important to be reported and fixed. Otherwise, I’m pretty stuck on figuring out what is going on. Here are links: Windows zip file of the app: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lsn087vrhstxvg4/PT_Explorer-Windows.zip?dl=0 Pixellated Image sent by a student https://www.dropbox.com/s/m2frv9i0dg7mxtp/Explorer%20in%20Windows%208.1.pdf?dl=0 Thanks for any help or feedback you can give me. Regards, Bill William A. Prothero http://es.earthednet.org/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Regards, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Odd behavior in Win8-I'm stuck fixing it, Help??
Hi Bill, I just noticed the second paragraph of your message. I trust you have received the license by now. If not, let me know. I'm really glad you like the book enough to buy a replacement copy! -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/20/2015 05:10, William Prothero wrote: Mark: Thanks for testing this. It does give me more confidence that it’s some oddity on the student’s computer. FYI: I have bought your book (2 of ‘em. I lost one) and InstallerMaker (still haven’t gotten a license emailed, tho). The 3 days aren’t up, tho. Anyway, I’m looking forward to using it. Best, Bill On Jul 19, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Okay. With this info, I'm unable to see any pixelation. I have tested the app on a 2.2 Ghz laptop with 4 GB built-in memory running Windows 8.1, i.e. nothing fancy and your students probably have a similar or better configuration. The sytem is Dutch. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/20/2015 00:43, William Prothero wrote: Mark: Keeping in mind that the info I got was from my teacher/collaborator, Sabina Thomas, and her info was during an online video chat with one of her students in Japan, what I understand is that the pixellation showed up after opening the MAP part of the application, doing a profile plot, then plotting Quakes from the “Select Data To Be Plotted” dropdown menu. That’s the information I have. I hope you don’t waste too much time on this because there is so little available information to help in debugging the situation. At this point, my solution is to try to get as many folks as possible to try it on Win8, and if the problem occurs again, beg, pay, whatever to get them to provide more detailed information about their computer and its settings. I think if you have any hunches or WIn8 idiosyncrasy info that could affect this, I could explore that further, but ….. I’m reluctant to bug Sabina’s student further about this. BUT, I am wondering if there is an app she might download that could send me information about her computer, that would help. Just thinking aloud. She might be willing to do that. Thanks for looking at this. I really appreciate it. Best, Bill On Jul 19, 2015, at 3:23 PM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: _Where_ and _when_ should the pixelation show up exactly? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/19/2015 23:42, William Prothero wrote: Mark: The pixellation should show up on the steps you took. However, I don’t see it and another LiveCoder who downloaded it and played it on Windows 8 doesn’t see it. Lowering the screen resolution shows the effect, but that would show the entire window pixellated, and that isn’t what is shown on the image. Only the part that is snapshot’d shows the pixellation. It really stumps me. I’m wondering if there could be some kind of jpg difference between countries. I could understand possible font differences, but the problem is the snapshot area(s). I’m wondering if there could be some timing problem, rarely seen, where the snapshot is taken before the underlying image is fully updated. The map image is a big one, with its size and location changed, but the data plot is just a group of lines and fields which is displayed, then snapshot’d. Debugging this seems hopeless without being able to reproduce the effect, though. At this stage, unless there is something about Windows and ‘png’ files in Japan, perhaps with a different language, I don’t know how to debug it. It’s very hard to get students to give feedback, after the assignment is over and they are onto other things. Probably also unfair to ask them to participate in debugging. So, I only ask once. One of my debugging strategies is to ask grad students at the UCSB geology dept. to try the program and I pay them $20 for feedback. I may try that strategy and if they see it, and I could get hold of their computer, something might pop out.
Re: Odd behavior in Win8-I'm stuck fixing it, Help??
Mark: Thanks for testing this. It does give me more confidence that it’s some oddity on the student’s computer. FYI: I have bought your book (2 of ‘em. I lost one) and InstallerMaker (still haven’t gotten a license emailed, tho). The 3 days aren’t up, tho. Anyway, I’m looking forward to using it. Best, Bill On Jul 19, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Okay. With this info, I'm unable to see any pixelation. I have tested the app on a 2.2 Ghz laptop with 4 GB built-in memory running Windows 8.1, i.e. nothing fancy and your students probably have a similar or better configuration. The sytem is Dutch. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/20/2015 00:43, William Prothero wrote: Mark: Keeping in mind that the info I got was from my teacher/collaborator, Sabina Thomas, and her info was during an online video chat with one of her students in Japan, what I understand is that the pixellation showed up after opening the MAP part of the application, doing a profile plot, then plotting Quakes from the “Select Data To Be Plotted” dropdown menu. That’s the information I have. I hope you don’t waste too much time on this because there is so little available information to help in debugging the situation. At this point, my solution is to try to get as many folks as possible to try it on Win8, and if the problem occurs again, beg, pay, whatever to get them to provide more detailed information about their computer and its settings. I think if you have any hunches or WIn8 idiosyncrasy info that could affect this, I could explore that further, but ….. I’m reluctant to bug Sabina’s student further about this. BUT, I am wondering if there is an app she might download that could send me information about her computer, that would help. Just thinking aloud. She might be willing to do that. Thanks for looking at this. I really appreciate it. Best, Bill On Jul 19, 2015, at 3:23 PM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: _Where_ and _when_ should the pixelation show up exactly? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/19/2015 23:42, William Prothero wrote: Mark: The pixellation should show up on the steps you took. However, I don’t see it and another LiveCoder who downloaded it and played it on Windows 8 doesn’t see it. Lowering the screen resolution shows the effect, but that would show the entire window pixellated, and that isn’t what is shown on the image. Only the part that is snapshot’d shows the pixellation. It really stumps me. I’m wondering if there could be some kind of jpg difference between countries. I could understand possible font differences, but the problem is the snapshot area(s). I’m wondering if there could be some timing problem, rarely seen, where the snapshot is taken before the underlying image is fully updated. The map image is a big one, with its size and location changed, but the data plot is just a group of lines and fields which is displayed, then snapshot’d. Debugging this seems hopeless without being able to reproduce the effect, though. At this stage, unless there is something about Windows and ‘png’ files in Japan, perhaps with a different language, I don’t know how to debug it. It’s very hard to get students to give feedback, after the assignment is over and they are onto other things. Probably also unfair to ask them to participate in debugging. So, I only ask once. One of my debugging strategies is to ask grad students at the UCSB geology dept. to try the program and I pay them $20 for feedback. I may try that strategy and if they see it, and I could get hold of their computer, something might pop out. BTW: I put the apps and problem images on my web site at: lhttp://earthednet.org/downloads/index.html http://earthednet.org/downloads/index.html Very odd. Bill On Jul 19, 2015, at 11:10 AM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Bill, I performed step 1 till 7. What are the steps to check if anything relevant is extremely pixelated? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter:
Re: Odd behavior in Win8-I'm stuck fixing it, Help??
Mark: The pixellation should show up on the steps you took. However, I don’t see it and another LiveCoder who downloaded it and played it on Windows 8 doesn’t see it. Lowering the screen resolution shows the effect, but that would show the entire window pixellated, and that isn’t what is shown on the image. Only the part that is snapshot’d shows the pixellation. It really stumps me. I’m wondering if there could be some kind of jpg difference between countries. I could understand possible font differences, but the problem is the snapshot area(s). I’m wondering if there could be some timing problem, rarely seen, where the snapshot is taken before the underlying image is fully updated. The map image is a big one, with its size and location changed, but the data plot is just a group of lines and fields which is displayed, then snapshot’d. Debugging this seems hopeless without being able to reproduce the effect, though. At this stage, unless there is something about Windows and ‘png’ files in Japan, perhaps with a different language, I don’t know how to debug it. It’s very hard to get students to give feedback, after the assignment is over and they are onto other things. Probably also unfair to ask them to participate in debugging. So, I only ask once. One of my debugging strategies is to ask grad students at the UCSB geology dept. to try the program and I pay them $20 for feedback. I may try that strategy and if they see it, and I could get hold of their computer, something might pop out. BTW: I put the apps and problem images on my web site at: lhttp://earthednet.org/downloads/index.html http://earthednet.org/downloads/index.html Very odd. Bill On Jul 19, 2015, at 11:10 AM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Bill, I performed step 1 till 7. What are the steps to check if anything relevant is extremely pixelated? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/19/2015 19:09, William Prothero wrote: Mark: Thanks for looking at the app. Instructions: 1. launch app 2. Click on “Begin” button with option key down. 3. At Welcome screen, click on “Go To Map” button 4. At Map screen, select “Quakes” form the dropdown labeled “Select data to be plotted” 5. Click on “Save Map Image” (optional) 6. Click on the “+” magnifier button, move the mouse over the map, and then click. The magnifier symbol should move with the mouse. 7. Make an elevation plot by first clicking on the “Make A Profile” checkbox, then drag the mouse across a segment of the map image. The snapshot is taken whenever the map screen changes. Symbol data are drawn into the snapshot image data. The map is a very large jpeg, which is reduced, then the snapshot is taken. When the map is magnified (by increments of a factor of 2), or moved, a new snapshot is taken. It appears that the pixellation occurs at the snapshot step. There is a region below the map (initially grey) that holds the data plots. This plot is created by creating the various graphic elements (fields, boxes, lines), then a snapshot taken, and then the plot elements deleted. The plot image is then the snapshot. This was also shown as pixellated (by the student with the problem), so I think it is most likely a snapshot problem. Thanks so much for looking at this, Mark!! I have not been able to duplicate this problem on my Parallels hosted Windows 8.1 system. Best regards, Bill On Jul 19, 2015, at 8:39 AM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Bill, I had a look at your app. There is no export snapshot button or menu item. Please, provide instructions as brief as possible. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Odd behavior in Win8-I'm stuck fixing it, Help??
_Where_ and _when_ should the pixelation show up exactly? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/19/2015 23:42, William Prothero wrote: Mark: The pixellation should show up on the steps you took. However, I don’t see it and another LiveCoder who downloaded it and played it on Windows 8 doesn’t see it. Lowering the screen resolution shows the effect, but that would show the entire window pixellated, and that isn’t what is shown on the image. Only the part that is snapshot’d shows the pixellation. It really stumps me. I’m wondering if there could be some kind of jpg difference between countries. I could understand possible font differences, but the problem is the snapshot area(s). I’m wondering if there could be some timing problem, rarely seen, where the snapshot is taken before the underlying image is fully updated. The map image is a big one, with its size and location changed, but the data plot is just a group of lines and fields which is displayed, then snapshot’d. Debugging this seems hopeless without being able to reproduce the effect, though. At this stage, unless there is something about Windows and ‘png’ files in Japan, perhaps with a different language, I don’t know how to debug it. It’s very hard to get students to give feedback, after the assignment is over and they are onto other things. Probably also unfair to ask them to participate in debugging. So, I only ask once. One of my debugging strategies is to ask grad students at the UCSB geology dept. to try the program and I pay them $20 for feedback. I may try that strategy and if they see it, and I could get hold of their computer, something might pop out. BTW: I put the apps and problem images on my web site at: lhttp://earthednet.org/downloads/index.html http://earthednet.org/downloads/index.html Very odd. Bill On Jul 19, 2015, at 11:10 AM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Bill, I performed step 1 till 7. What are the steps to check if anything relevant is extremely pixelated? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/19/2015 19:09, William Prothero wrote: Mark: Thanks for looking at the app. Instructions: 1. launch app 2. Click on “Begin” button with option key down. 3. At Welcome screen, click on “Go To Map” button 4. At Map screen, select “Quakes” form the dropdown labeled “Select data to be plotted” 5. Click on “Save Map Image” (optional) 6. Click on the “+” magnifier button, move the mouse over the map, and then click. The magnifier symbol should move with the mouse. 7. Make an elevation plot by first clicking on the “Make A Profile” checkbox, then drag the mouse across a segment of the map image. The snapshot is taken whenever the map screen changes. Symbol data are drawn into the snapshot image data. The map is a very large jpeg, which is reduced, then the snapshot is taken. When the map is magnified (by increments of a factor of 2), or moved, a new snapshot is taken. It appears that the pixellation occurs at the snapshot step. There is a region below the map (initially grey) that holds the data plots. This plot is created by creating the various graphic elements (fields, boxes, lines), then a snapshot taken, and then the plot elements deleted. The plot image is then the snapshot. This was also shown as pixellated (by the student with the problem), so I think it is most likely a snapshot problem. Thanks so much for looking at this, Mark!! I have not been able to duplicate this problem on my Parallels hosted Windows 8.1 system. Best regards, Bill On Jul 19, 2015, at 8:39 AM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Bill, I had a look at your app. There is no export snapshot button or menu item. Please, provide instructions as brief as possible. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and
Re: Odd behavior in Win8-I'm stuck fixing it, Help??
Mark: Keeping in mind that the info I got was from my teacher/collaborator, Sabina Thomas, and her info was during an online video chat with one of her students in Japan, what I understand is that the pixellation showed up after opening the MAP part of the application, doing a profile plot, then plotting Quakes from the “Select Data To Be Plotted” dropdown menu. That’s the information I have. I hope you don’t waste too much time on this because there is so little available information to help in debugging the situation. At this point, my solution is to try to get as many folks as possible to try it on Win8, and if the problem occurs again, beg, pay, whatever to get them to provide more detailed information about their computer and its settings. I think if you have any hunches or WIn8 idiosyncrasy info that could affect this, I could explore that further, but ….. I’m reluctant to bug Sabina’s student further about this. BUT, I am wondering if there is an app she might download that could send me information about her computer, that would help. Just thinking aloud. She might be willing to do that. Thanks for looking at this. I really appreciate it. Best, Bill On Jul 19, 2015, at 3:23 PM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: _Where_ and _when_ should the pixelation show up exactly? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/19/2015 23:42, William Prothero wrote: Mark: The pixellation should show up on the steps you took. However, I don’t see it and another LiveCoder who downloaded it and played it on Windows 8 doesn’t see it. Lowering the screen resolution shows the effect, but that would show the entire window pixellated, and that isn’t what is shown on the image. Only the part that is snapshot’d shows the pixellation. It really stumps me. I’m wondering if there could be some kind of jpg difference between countries. I could understand possible font differences, but the problem is the snapshot area(s). I’m wondering if there could be some timing problem, rarely seen, where the snapshot is taken before the underlying image is fully updated. The map image is a big one, with its size and location changed, but the data plot is just a group of lines and fields which is displayed, then snapshot’d. Debugging this seems hopeless without being able to reproduce the effect, though. At this stage, unless there is something about Windows and ‘png’ files in Japan, perhaps with a different language, I don’t know how to debug it. It’s very hard to get students to give feedback, after the assignment is over and they are onto other things. Probably also unfair to ask them to participate in debugging. So, I only ask once. One of my debugging strategies is to ask grad students at the UCSB geology dept. to try the program and I pay them $20 for feedback. I may try that strategy and if they see it, and I could get hold of their computer, something might pop out. BTW: I put the apps and problem images on my web site at: lhttp://earthednet.org/downloads/index.html http://earthednet.org/downloads/index.html Very odd. Bill On Jul 19, 2015, at 11:10 AM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Bill, I performed step 1 till 7. What are the steps to check if anything relevant is extremely pixelated? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/19/2015 19:09, William Prothero wrote: Mark: Thanks for looking at the app. Instructions: 1. launch app 2. Click on “Begin” button with option key down. 3. At Welcome screen, click on “Go To Map” button 4. At Map screen, select “Quakes” form the dropdown labeled “Select data to be plotted” 5. Click on “Save Map Image” (optional) 6. Click on the “+” magnifier button, move the mouse over the map, and then click. The magnifier symbol should move with the mouse. 7. Make an elevation plot by first clicking on the “Make A Profile” checkbox, then drag the mouse across a segment of the map image. The snapshot is taken whenever the map screen changes. Symbol data are drawn into the snapshot image data. The map is a very large jpeg, which is reduced, then the snapshot is taken. When the map is magnified (by increments of a factor of 2), or
Re: Odd behavior in Win8-I'm stuck fixing it, Help??
Okay. With this info, I'm unable to see any pixelation. I have tested the app on a 2.2 Ghz laptop with 4 GB built-in memory running Windows 8.1, i.e. nothing fancy and your students probably have a similar or better configuration. The sytem is Dutch. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/20/2015 00:43, William Prothero wrote: Mark: Keeping in mind that the info I got was from my teacher/collaborator, Sabina Thomas, and her info was during an online video chat with one of her students in Japan, what I understand is that the pixellation showed up after opening the MAP part of the application, doing a profile plot, then plotting Quakes from the “Select Data To Be Plotted” dropdown menu. That’s the information I have. I hope you don’t waste too much time on this because there is so little available information to help in debugging the situation. At this point, my solution is to try to get as many folks as possible to try it on Win8, and if the problem occurs again, beg, pay, whatever to get them to provide more detailed information about their computer and its settings. I think if you have any hunches or WIn8 idiosyncrasy info that could affect this, I could explore that further, but ….. I’m reluctant to bug Sabina’s student further about this. BUT, I am wondering if there is an app she might download that could send me information about her computer, that would help. Just thinking aloud. She might be willing to do that. Thanks for looking at this. I really appreciate it. Best, Bill On Jul 19, 2015, at 3:23 PM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: _Where_ and _when_ should the pixelation show up exactly? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/19/2015 23:42, William Prothero wrote: Mark: The pixellation should show up on the steps you took. However, I don’t see it and another LiveCoder who downloaded it and played it on Windows 8 doesn’t see it. Lowering the screen resolution shows the effect, but that would show the entire window pixellated, and that isn’t what is shown on the image. Only the part that is snapshot’d shows the pixellation. It really stumps me. I’m wondering if there could be some kind of jpg difference between countries. I could understand possible font differences, but the problem is the snapshot area(s). I’m wondering if there could be some timing problem, rarely seen, where the snapshot is taken before the underlying image is fully updated. The map image is a big one, with its size and location changed, but the data plot is just a group of lines and fields which is displayed, then snapshot’d. Debugging this seems hopeless without being able to reproduce the effect, though. At this stage, unless there is something about Windows and ‘png’ files in Japan, perhaps with a different language, I don’t know how to debug it. It’s very hard to get students to give feedback, after the assignment is over and they are onto other things. Probably also unfair to ask them to participate in debugging. So, I only ask once. One of my debugging strategies is to ask grad students at the UCSB geology dept. to try the program and I pay them $20 for feedback. I may try that strategy and if they see it, and I could get hold of their computer, something might pop out. BTW: I put the apps and problem images on my web site at: lhttp://earthednet.org/downloads/index.html http://earthednet.org/downloads/index.html Very odd. Bill On Jul 19, 2015, at 11:10 AM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Bill, I performed step 1 till 7. What are the steps to check if anything relevant is extremely pixelated? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/19/2015 19:09, William Prothero wrote: Mark: Thanks for looking at the app. Instructions: 1. launch app 2. Click on “Begin” button with option key down. 3. At Welcome screen, click on “Go To Map” button 4. At Map screen, select “Quakes” form the dropdown labeled “Select data to be
Re: Odd behavior in Win8-I'm stuck fixing it, Help??
Mark: Thanks for looking at the app. Instructions: 1. launch app 2. Click on “Begin” button with option key down. 3. At Welcome screen, click on “Go To Map” button 4. At Map screen, select “Quakes” form the dropdown labeled “Select data to be plotted” 5. Click on “Save Map Image” (optional) 6. Click on the “+” magnifier button, move the mouse over the map, and then click. The magnifier symbol should move with the mouse. 7. Make an elevation plot by first clicking on the “Make A Profile” checkbox, then drag the mouse across a segment of the map image. The snapshot is taken whenever the map screen changes. Symbol data are drawn into the snapshot image data. The map is a very large jpeg, which is reduced, then the snapshot is taken. When the map is magnified (by increments of a factor of 2), or moved, a new snapshot is taken. It appears that the pixellation occurs at the snapshot step. There is a region below the map (initially grey) that holds the data plots. This plot is created by creating the various graphic elements (fields, boxes, lines), then a snapshot taken, and then the plot elements deleted. The plot image is then the snapshot. This was also shown as pixellated (by the student with the problem), so I think it is most likely a snapshot problem. Thanks so much for looking at this, Mark!! I have not been able to duplicate this problem on my Parallels hosted Windows 8.1 system. Best regards, Bill On Jul 19, 2015, at 8:39 AM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Bill, I had a look at your app. There is no export snapshot button or menu item. Please, provide instructions as brief as possible. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Odd behavior in Win8-I'm stuck fixing it, Help??
Bill, I performed step 1 till 7. What are the steps to check if anything relevant is extremely pixelated? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/19/2015 19:09, William Prothero wrote: Mark: Thanks for looking at the app. Instructions: 1. launch app 2. Click on “Begin” button with option key down. 3. At Welcome screen, click on “Go To Map” button 4. At Map screen, select “Quakes” form the dropdown labeled “Select data to be plotted” 5. Click on “Save Map Image” (optional) 6. Click on the “+” magnifier button, move the mouse over the map, and then click. The magnifier symbol should move with the mouse. 7. Make an elevation plot by first clicking on the “Make A Profile” checkbox, then drag the mouse across a segment of the map image. The snapshot is taken whenever the map screen changes. Symbol data are drawn into the snapshot image data. The map is a very large jpeg, which is reduced, then the snapshot is taken. When the map is magnified (by increments of a factor of 2), or moved, a new snapshot is taken. It appears that the pixellation occurs at the snapshot step. There is a region below the map (initially grey) that holds the data plots. This plot is created by creating the various graphic elements (fields, boxes, lines), then a snapshot taken, and then the plot elements deleted. The plot image is then the snapshot. This was also shown as pixellated (by the student with the problem), so I think it is most likely a snapshot problem. Thanks so much for looking at this, Mark!! I have not been able to duplicate this problem on my Parallels hosted Windows 8.1 system. Best regards, Bill On Jul 19, 2015, at 8:39 AM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Bill, I had a look at your app. There is no export snapshot button or menu item. Please, provide instructions as brief as possible. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Odd behavior in Win8-I'm stuck fixing it, Help??
Bill, I had a look at your app. There is no export snapshot button or menu item. Please, provide instructions as brief as possible. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/16/2015 23:07, William Prothero wrote: Folks: I have an application that is being used by a class of Earth Science students and get failure reports from two who use Windows 8. One lives in Australia and one lives in Japan. The app works fine on Macintosh. I’ve also tested it on my own installation of both Windows 8.1 and 7, 32 bit and 64 bit versions. I can’t get the reported pixellation of the map and screen. I’m wondering if it is something related to foreign installations. The symptom is extreme pixellation of images captured with the export snapshot” command. I live in the US. So, I wonder if somebody with Windows 8 would be willing to download the app and try it, and perhaps give me an idea of what might be going on. If it’s a bug in “snapshot”, it would be important to be reported and fixed. Otherwise, I’m pretty stuck on figuring out what is going on. Here are links: Windows zip file of the app: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lsn087vrhstxvg4/PT_Explorer-Windows.zip?dl=0 Pixellated Image sent by a student https://www.dropbox.com/s/m2frv9i0dg7mxtp/Explorer%20in%20Windows%208.1.pdf?dl=0 Thanks for any help or feedback you can give me. Regards, Bill William A. Prothero http://es.earthednet.org/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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William - thanks for the link. Please add me to the list. I'd be interested in using this material in teaching, and help with any code. It is a subject that I am very interested in. Great work! On 17 July 2015 at 21:48, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: PS: The app I am developing is targeted at high school and college introductory Earth Science classes and is focussed on getting a range of data that supports the theory of Plate Tectonics into student hands. These data support realistic scientific investigations and science writing. Some of these tools will be incorporated into future versions. The app is unique in that it allows easy access to a wide range of Earth data that otherwise students have to get from various other web sites, which takes away time they might spend on thinking about the meaning of the data. I have used a version of this software written in Adobe Director, in large introductory Earth Science courses at the University of California, Santa Barbara, to anchor science writing and peer review activities. My web site contains links to publications describing my activities. This app will be free to all and I would love to have a few teachers who are willing to work with me on it. If you are willing to look at the app and potentially use it in your classroom, I will inform you of new versions and future plans. Also, I will welcome (whether you are a teacher or now) suggestions and ideas for improvement. Best regards, Bill Prothero William A. Prothero, Ph.D. University of California, Santa Barbara Dept. of Earth Sciences (Emeritus) Santa Barbara, CA. 93105 http://es.earthednet.org/ my new project link http://earthednet.org/ptExplorer/Cover.html On Jul 16, 2015, at 2:07 PM, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Folks: I have an application that is being used by a class of Earth Science students and get failure reports from two who use Windows 8. One lives in Australia and one lives in Japan. The app works fine on Macintosh. I’ve also tested it on my own installation of both Windows 8.1 and 7, 32 bit and 64 bit versions. I can’t get the reported pixellation of the map and screen. I’m wondering if it is something related to foreign installations. The symptom is extreme pixellation of images captured with the export snapshot” command. I live in the US. So, I wonder if somebody with Windows 8 would be willing to download the app and try it, and perhaps give me an idea of what might be going on. If it’s a bug in “snapshot”, it would be important to be reported and fixed. Otherwise, I’m pretty stuck on figuring out what is going on. Here are links: Windows zip file of the app: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lsn087vrhstxvg4/PT_Explorer-Windows.zip?dl=0 Pixellated Image sent by a student https://www.dropbox.com/s/m2frv9i0dg7mxtp/Explorer%20in%20Windows%208.1.pdf?dl=0 Thanks for any help or feedback you can give me. Regards, Bill William A. Prothero http://es.earthednet.org/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Odd behavior in Win8-I'm stuck fixing it, Help??
David: Thank you for your interest. I have your @viral.academy mailto:@viral.academy email from your posting. If you’d like another, please contact me offlist at proth...@earthednet.org mailto:proth...@earthednet.org. My biggest problem right now is figuring out why two foreign students using Windows 8 had problems. The Japanese student had pixellation problems that seemed to appear on the screen captured image. Another found a crash that I can’t duplicate, but he described what happened and it may be able to be fixed if I do more error testing in my code. If you have any suggestions on how to get this tested without using/abusing students in classes, please let me know. In the future, I hope you can give me some feedback on the kind of student management that would be useful. The version that is being used right now was a very preliminary one. I am going to set up so I get a log of each student’s computer and OS type when they log in, and a better bug reporting system. Also, I will implement some kind of system that will bundle and send a student’s homework to a specified teacher. This kind of login for a specific class will be a separate module that will let me reconfigure the software easily for different applications. Regards, Bill Prothero On Jul 17, 2015, at 11:52 PM, David Bovill david@viral.academy wrote: William - thanks for the link. Please add me to the list. I'd be interested in using this material in teaching, and help with any code. It is a subject that I am very interested in. Great work! On 17 July 2015 at 21:48, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: PS: The app I am developing is targeted at high school and college introductory Earth Science classes and is focussed on getting a range of data that supports the theory of Plate Tectonics into student hands. These data support realistic scientific investigations and science writing. Some of these tools will be incorporated into future versions. The app is unique in that it allows easy access to a wide range of Earth data that otherwise students have to get from various other web sites, which takes away time they might spend on thinking about the meaning of the data. I have used a version of this software written in Adobe Director, in large introductory Earth Science courses at the University of California, Santa Barbara, to anchor science writing and peer review activities. My web site contains links to publications describing my activities. This app will be free to all and I would love to have a few teachers who are willing to work with me on it. If you are willing to look at the app and potentially use it in your classroom, I will inform you of new versions and future plans. Also, I will welcome (whether you are a teacher or now) suggestions and ideas for improvement. Best regards, Bill Prothero William A. Prothero, Ph.D. University of California, Santa Barbara Dept. of Earth Sciences (Emeritus) Santa Barbara, CA. 93105 http://es.earthednet.org/ my new project link http://earthednet.org/ptExplorer/Cover.html On Jul 16, 2015, at 2:07 PM, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Folks: I have an application that is being used by a class of Earth Science students and get failure reports from two who use Windows 8. One lives in Australia and one lives in Japan. The app works fine on Macintosh. I’ve also tested it on my own installation of both Windows 8.1 and 7, 32 bit and 64 bit versions. I can’t get the reported pixellation of the map and screen. I’m wondering if it is something related to foreign installations. The symptom is extreme pixellation of images captured with the export snapshot” command. I live in the US. So, I wonder if somebody with Windows 8 would be willing to download the app and try it, and perhaps give me an idea of what might be going on. If it’s a bug in “snapshot”, it would be important to be reported and fixed. Otherwise, I’m pretty stuck on figuring out what is going on. Here are links: Windows zip file of the app: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lsn087vrhstxvg4/PT_Explorer-Windows.zip?dl=0 Pixellated Image sent by a student https://www.dropbox.com/s/m2frv9i0dg7mxtp/Explorer%20in%20Windows%208.1.pdf?dl=0 Thanks for any help or feedback you can give me. Regards, Bill William A. Prothero http://es.earthednet.org/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing
Re: Odd behavior in Win8-I'm stuck fixing it, Help??
PS: The app I am developing is targeted at high school and college introductory Earth Science classes and is focussed on getting a range of data that supports the theory of Plate Tectonics into student hands. These data support realistic scientific investigations and science writing. Some of these tools will be incorporated into future versions. The app is unique in that it allows easy access to a wide range of Earth data that otherwise students have to get from various other web sites, which takes away time they might spend on thinking about the meaning of the data. I have used a version of this software written in Adobe Director, in large introductory Earth Science courses at the University of California, Santa Barbara, to anchor science writing and peer review activities. My web site contains links to publications describing my activities. This app will be free to all and I would love to have a few teachers who are willing to work with me on it. If you are willing to look at the app and potentially use it in your classroom, I will inform you of new versions and future plans. Also, I will welcome (whether you are a teacher or now) suggestions and ideas for improvement. Best regards, Bill Prothero William A. Prothero, Ph.D. University of California, Santa Barbara Dept. of Earth Sciences (Emeritus) Santa Barbara, CA. 93105 http://es.earthednet.org/ my new project link http://earthednet.org/ptExplorer/Cover.html On Jul 16, 2015, at 2:07 PM, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Folks: I have an application that is being used by a class of Earth Science students and get failure reports from two who use Windows 8. One lives in Australia and one lives in Japan. The app works fine on Macintosh. I’ve also tested it on my own installation of both Windows 8.1 and 7, 32 bit and 64 bit versions. I can’t get the reported pixellation of the map and screen. I’m wondering if it is something related to foreign installations. The symptom is extreme pixellation of images captured with the export snapshot” command. I live in the US. So, I wonder if somebody with Windows 8 would be willing to download the app and try it, and perhaps give me an idea of what might be going on. If it’s a bug in “snapshot”, it would be important to be reported and fixed. Otherwise, I’m pretty stuck on figuring out what is going on. Here are links: Windows zip file of the app: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lsn087vrhstxvg4/PT_Explorer-Windows.zip?dl=0 Pixellated Image sent by a student https://www.dropbox.com/s/m2frv9i0dg7mxtp/Explorer%20in%20Windows%208.1.pdf?dl=0 Thanks for any help or feedback you can give me. Regards, Bill William A. Prothero http://es.earthednet.org/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
