Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0
How can 7.0 be considered suitable for a release and having been updated for Yosemite when?: 1. Buttons do not display correctly. 2. Tabs do not display correctly. It’s really beyond my comprehension. All the best Terry On 23 Oct 2014, at 20:36, Benjamin Beaumont b...@runrev.com wrote: Dear list members, We're pleased to announce release of LiveCode 7.0. This is a stable release. *Yosemite* During the release candidate phase we added support for Yosemite and will be working on adding wider ranging support for that platform in the coming week. Apple have tweaked how some of their pickers work which we'd like make available to your applications. We plan to do this in the form of 6.7.1 and 7.0.1 releases in the coming two weeks. Thanks once again to you as a community. Your support in testing and bug reporting does not go unnoticed! Warm regards, The LiveCode Team ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0
I'm wondering if anyone tested the iOS player object in a pre-GM release of 7.0? As far as I can see it's totally broken? g On 24 Oct 2014, at 5:44 pm, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com wrote: It’s really beyond my comprehension. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0
Hi all, Am 24.10.2014 um 08:44 schrieb Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com: How can 7.0 be considered suitable for a release and having been updated for Yosemite when?: 1. Buttons do not display correctly. 2. Tabs do not display correctly. Yep, as much I admire the efforts from the mothership, this is a no-go! Look at this screenshot and guess which tab is from OS X system settings: http://major-k.de/temp/lc6.7_cocoa_not.jpg This has been in Quality Center for more than three years now and we were hoping to have this finally fixed with the introduction of a Cocoa version: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11912 http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9370 It’s really beyond my comprehension. All the best Terry Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major-k.de ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Klaus major-k kl...@major-k.de wrote: This has been in Quality Center for more than three years now and we were hoping to have this finally fixed with the introduction of a Cocoa version: Klaus, One misconception (understandably) with the Cocoa version is that it affects how controls are rendered. Unfortunatley this is not the case. It does improve how windows are drawn, and how controls like the web browser integrate with the rest of the stack controls. But it doesn't change how LiveCode draws buttons, fields, etc.. LiveCode will be able to render native controls on OS X when we get Widgets (LC 8). -- Trevor DeVore ScreenSteps www.screensteps.com-www.clarify-it.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0
They could at least improve the fakes a bit right now, because 8 is far away. On 24 Oct 2014, at 16:13, Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Klaus major-k kl...@major-k.de wrote: This has been in Quality Center for more than three years now and we were hoping to have this finally fixed with the introduction of a Cocoa version: Klaus, One misconception (understandably) with the Cocoa version is that it affects how controls are rendered. Unfortunatley this is not the case. It does improve how windows are drawn, and how controls like the web browser integrate with the rest of the stack controls. But it doesn't change how LiveCode draws buttons, fields, etc.. LiveCode will be able to render native controls on OS X when we get Widgets (LC 8). -- Trevor DeVore ScreenSteps www.screensteps.com-www.clarify-it.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0
Hi Trevor, Am 24.10.2014 um 16:13 schrieb Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.com: On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Klaus major-k kl...@major-k.de wrote: This has been in Quality Center for more than three years now and we were hoping to have this finally fixed with the introduction of a Cocoa version: Klaus, One misconception (understandably) with the Cocoa version is that it affects how controls are rendered. Unfortunatley this is not the case. It does improve how windows are drawn, and how controls like the web browser integrate with the rest of the stack controls. But it doesn't change how LiveCode draws buttons, fields, etc.. ah, OK, my fault, but nevertheless this (e.g. selected text = white!) has been working on Windows for years. LiveCode will be able to render native controls on OS X when we get Widgets (LC 8). Yep, at some time in the future... :-/ -- Trevor DeVore Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major-k.de ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0
Yes but who will have to create the widgets? What is the target date for LC 8 or is it so far away it hasn’t ben thought about. Having to wait 3 years for the UI to be corrected (and it’s not done yet) is really unacceptable. Is OS X actually deemed to be an important market for RunRev? All the best Terry On 24 Oct 2014, at 15:13, Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.com wrote: LiveCode will be able to render native controls on OS X when we get Widgets (LC 8). ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com wrote: They could at least improve the fakes a bit right now, because 8 is far away. Agreed. I'm not saying they shouldn't. I'm only trying to clear up confusion on what the Cocoa support brings to the table. -- Trevor DeVore ScreenSteps www.screensteps.com-www.clarify-it.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com wrote: Yes but who will have to create the widgets? Anybody can. I believe RunRev stated at the conference that they would be creating new versions of the standard as Widgets. If there is a control you need that RunRev, or some other developer, hasn't made available then you can wrap it up in a widget. I'm not sure how wrapping up native controls will work exactly, but you use a special version of the LiveCode language (modular LiveCode?) to handle it. No Objective C or C. What is the target date for LC 8 or is it so far away it hasn’t ben thought about. At the conference we were told that we should see Alphas before the end of the year. I've seen a bit of activity on Widgets in the commits on Github so they are actively working on it. Is OS X actually deemed to be an important market for RunRev? Well, if it wasn't I don't think they would have gone through all of the work of reworking the entire windowing/messaging system to use Cocoa. It was a big project. -- Trevor DeVore ScreenSteps www.screensteps.com-www.clarify-it.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com wrote: Is OS X actually deemed to be an important market for RunRev? An engineer just committed the fix for the text color in the highlighted tab button to github. So it will be fixed for the next release. -- Trevor DeVore ScreenSteps www.screensteps.com-www.clarify-it.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0
Hi Trevor, Am 24.10.2014 um 16:55 schrieb Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.com: On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com wrote: Is OS X actually deemed to be an important market for RunRev? An engineer just committed the fix for the text color in the highlighted tab button to github. So it will be fixed for the next release. hope this also includes selected text in LIST fields! 8-) -- Trevor DeVore Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major-k.de ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Klaus major-k kl...@major-k.de wrote: An engineer just committed the fix for the text color in the highlighted tab button to github. So it will be fixed for the next release. hope this also includes selected text in LIST fields! 8-) The commit only affected tabbed buttons. If there is already a report for this you might add a new comment to it asking that it get fixed. Otherwise you should probably file one. -- Trevor DeVore ScreenSteps www.screensteps.com-www.clarify-it.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0
I wouldn’t be surprised if it is both a tab button and general button because in Yosemite the colour arrangement seems to be the same and it does appear in LC that a tab is actually a button. It would just be the status of the button that decides the colour etc. All the best Terry On 24 Oct 2014, at 16:23, Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.com wrote: The commit only affected tabbed buttons. If there is already a report for this you might add a new comment to it asking that it get fixed. Otherwise you should probably file one. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Benjamin Beaumont b...@runrev.com wrote: We're pleased to announce release of LiveCode 7.0. This is a stable release. I would like to congratulate the whole RunRev team on this release. Being able to push a project out the door after almost 2 years has to be very gratifying. I would have given up months ago :-) I'm really looking forward to implementing 7.0 in my projects. Thanks for all of the hard work!!! Now on to widgets... :-) -- Trevor DeVore ScreenSteps www.screensteps.com-www.clarify-it.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0
Ben, Well done... I Applaud the entire RR team! Really , take a bow. The way you were on top of this iOS 8 thing and still got these releases out... Makes my head hurt just thinking about it. Does this mean we can once again use the “R” word in general conversation once again? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net From: livecode-dev [mailto:livecode-dev-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Benjamin Beaumont Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:37 PM To: How to use LiveCode; LiveCode Developer List Subject: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0 Dear list members, We're pleased to announce release of LiveCode 7.0. This is a stable release. WARNING: LiveCode 7.0 contains breaking changes particularly when reading and writing data out of LiveCode or working with the char chunk type. Details can be found in the release notes which are linked below. LiveCode 6.7, which was also released today, provides a fully backward compatible new edition of LiveCode for all those users who need time to migrate their stacks to 7.0. Most people will be unaffected but please check the release notes and ask your questions on the list if you are unsure, we are very happy to help. LiveCode 7.0 has been available for most of 2014 so I expect most of you are well aware of the changes and likely already updated stacks where necessary. Release contents LiveCode 7.0 is a massive release for us as custodians of LiveCode and for us as a community. We've been working on it for almost 2 years and it sees us modernise the core of the engine and pave the was for LiveCode 8. We've introduced lots of new features, most notably, transparent unicode support which is a huge step forward for the technology. For more information of the changes in the release you can visit our website at: http://livecode.com/livecode-7/ Our release notes contain full details of all the changes made during this cycle as well as details of all the bugs that were fixed. The can be found here: http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/6_7_0/LiveCodeNotes-7_0_0.pdf Yosemite During the release candidate phase we added support for Yosemite and will be working on adding wider ranging support for that platform in the coming week. Apple have tweaked how some of their pickers work which we'd like make available to your applications. We plan to do this in the form of 6.7.1 and 7.0.1 releases in the coming two weeks. Thanks once again to you as a community. Your support in testing and bug reporting does not go unnoticed! Warm regards, The LiveCode Team ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0
Brilliant! And right before my 5 year unlimited deal is up! Thanks RunRev! I might just buy another year of commercial license for the hell of it! Bob S On Oct 23, 2014, at 12:36 , Benjamin Beaumont b...@runrev.com wrote: Dear list members, We're pleased to announce release of LiveCode 7.0. This is a stable release. WARNING: LiveCode 7.0 contains breaking changes particularly when reading and writing data out of LiveCode or working with the char chunk type. Details can be found in the release notes which are linked below. LiveCode 6.7, which was also released today, provides a fully backward compatible new edition of LiveCode for all those users who need time to migrate their stacks to 7.0. Most people will be unaffected but please check the release notes and ask your questions on the list if you are unsure, we are very happy to help. LiveCode 7.0 has been available for most of 2014 so I expect most of you are well aware of the changes and likely already updated stacks where necessary. *Release contents* LiveCode 7.0 is a massive release for us as custodians of LiveCode and for us as a community. We've been working on it for almost 2 years and it sees us modernise the core of the engine and pave the was for LiveCode 8. We've introduced lots of new features, most notably, transparent unicode support which is a huge step forward for the technology. For more information of the changes in the release you can visit our website at: http://livecode.com/livecode-7/ Our release notes contain full details of all the changes made during this cycle as well as details of all the bugs that were fixed. The can be found here: http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/6_7_0/LiveCodeNotes-7_0_0.pdf *Yosemite* During the release candidate phase we added support for Yosemite and will be working on adding wider ranging support for that platform in the coming week. Apple have tweaked how some of their pickers work which we'd like make available to your applications. We plan to do this in the form of 6.7.1 and 7.0.1 releases in the coming two weeks. Thanks once again to you as a community. Your support in testing and bug reporting does not go unnoticed! Warm regards, The LiveCode Team ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0
Purely amazing ! Thanks Mother Ship ;D Warm Regards, Pierre On Oct 23, 2014, at 12:36 , Benjamin Beaumont b...@runrev.com wrote: Dear list members, We're pleased to announce release of LiveCode 7.0. This is a stable release. WARNING: LiveCode 7.0 contains breaking changes particularly when reading and writing data out of LiveCode or working with the char chunk type. Details can be found in the release notes which are linked below. LiveCode 6.7, which was also released today, provides a fully backward compatible new edition of LiveCode for all those users who need time to migrate their stacks to 7.0. Most people will be unaffected but please check the release notes and ask your questions on the list if you are unsure, we are very happy to help. LiveCode 7.0 has been available for most of 2014 so I expect most of you are well aware of the changes and likely already updated stacks where necessary. *Release contents* LiveCode 7.0 is a massive release for us as custodians of LiveCode and for us as a community. We've been working on it for almost 2 years and it sees us modernise the core of the engine and pave the was for LiveCode 8. We've introduced lots of new features, most notably, transparent unicode support which is a huge step forward for the technology. For more information of the changes in the release you can visit our website at: http://livecode.com/livecode-7/ Our release notes contain full details of all the changes made during this cycle as well as details of all the bugs that were fixed. The can be found here: http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/6_7_0/LiveCodeNotes-7_0_0.pdf *Yosemite* During the release candidate phase we added support for Yosemite and will be working on adding wider ranging support for that platform in the coming week. Apple have tweaked how some of their pickers work which we'd like make available to your applications. We plan to do this in the form of 6.7.1 and 7.0.1 releases in the coming two weeks. Thanks once again to you as a community. Your support in testing and bug reporting does not go unnoticed! Warm regards, The LiveCode Team ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0
Congratulations and well done to all at RunRev, thank you to each of you for your hard work Have a great weekend :) Dave Benjamin Beaumont wrote Dear list members, We're pleased to announce release of LiveCode 7.0. This is a stable release. - Some are born coders, some achieve coding, and some have coding thrust upon them. - William Shakespeare Hugh Senior -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/RELEASE-LiveCode-7-0-tp4684814p4684834.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 7.0 RC 2
I know but I could have sworn earlier releases didn’t present like this but I just tried RC1 and it did. All the best Terry On 23 Sep 2014, at 17:46, Peter Bogdanoff bogdan...@me.com wrote: OS X: System SettingsSecurity PrivacyAllow apps downloaded fromAnywhere On Sep 22, 2014, at 11:31 AM, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com wrote: “Install LiveCode Community 7.0 (rc 2)” can’t be opened because the identity of the developer cannot be confirmed. “Install LiveCode Community 7.0 (rc 2)” is on the disk image “LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-7_0_0_rc_2-Mac.dmg”. Safari downloaded this disk image today at 19:28 from livecode.com. All the best Terry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 7.0 RC 2
It's an OS X security thing; you must of upgraded to Mavericks. Peter On Sep 23, 2014, at 11:39 PM, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com wrote: I know but I could have sworn earlier releases didn’t present like this but I just tried RC1 and it did. All the best Terry On 23 Sep 2014, at 17:46, Peter Bogdanoff bogdan...@me.com wrote: OS X: System SettingsSecurity PrivacyAllow apps downloaded fromAnywhere On Sep 22, 2014, at 11:31 AM, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com wrote: “Install LiveCode Community 7.0 (rc 2)” can’t be opened because the identity of the developer cannot be confirmed. “Install LiveCode Community 7.0 (rc 2)” is on the disk image “LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-7_0_0_rc_2-Mac.dmg”. Safari downloaded this disk image today at 19:28 from livecode.com. All the best Terry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 7.0 RC 2
OS X: System SettingsSecurity PrivacyAllow apps downloaded fromAnywhere On Sep 22, 2014, at 11:31 AM, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com wrote: “Install LiveCode Community 7.0 (rc 2)” can’t be opened because the identity of the developer cannot be confirmed. “Install LiveCode Community 7.0 (rc 2)” is on the disk image “LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-7_0_0_rc_2-Mac.dmg”. Safari downloaded this disk image today at 19:28 from livecode.com. All the best Terry On 22 Sep 2014, at 17:02, Fraser Gordon fraser.gor...@livecode.com wrote: Dear List Members. We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 7.0 RC 2. * Warning, this is a pre-release with new features which have the potential to cause issues. Please ensure you backup your stacks before testing this release.* *Release Focus* 61 bug fixes *Important Changes* - We’ve update the platform component of the engine on Linux substantially. Think of it as the equivalent of the cocoa port for MacOS X. As a result, windowing related activities on Linux are subject to change. If you are testing on Linux we would encourage you to focus on windowing, window shapes, shortcuts, copy/paste and drag/drop. - LiveCode 7.0 is now based on LiveCode 6.7. It includes cocoa, the webkit browser, the new AVFoundation player on Mac. - The file format has changed for this release to accommodate Unicode. Old stacks will still work in 7.0, but stacks saved in 7.0 format will not open in previous versions of LiveCode. Therefore it is doubly critical to backup your stacks. *Release contents* The number of bugs fixed is so large that it no longer makes sense to include a summary in the release email. Instead, please look at the bug fix section of the release notes which can be found here: http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/7_0_0/LiveCodeNotes-7_0_0_rc_2.pdf *Feeding Back* If you find an issue in this release, please report a bug at quality.runrev.com. Warm regards, The LiveCode Team ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 7.0 RC 2
“Install LiveCode Community 7.0 (rc 2)” can’t be opened because the identity of the developer cannot be confirmed. “Install LiveCode Community 7.0 (rc 2)” is on the disk image “LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-7_0_0_rc_2-Mac.dmg”. Safari downloaded this disk image today at 19:28 from livecode.com. All the best Terry On 22 Sep 2014, at 17:02, Fraser Gordon fraser.gor...@livecode.com wrote: Dear List Members. We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 7.0 RC 2. * Warning, this is a pre-release with new features which have the potential to cause issues. Please ensure you backup your stacks before testing this release.* *Release Focus* 61 bug fixes *Important Changes* - We’ve update the platform component of the engine on Linux substantially. Think of it as the equivalent of the cocoa port for MacOS X. As a result, windowing related activities on Linux are subject to change. If you are testing on Linux we would encourage you to focus on windowing, window shapes, shortcuts, copy/paste and drag/drop. - LiveCode 7.0 is now based on LiveCode 6.7. It includes cocoa, the webkit browser, the new AVFoundation player on Mac. - The file format has changed for this release to accommodate Unicode. Old stacks will still work in 7.0, but stacks saved in 7.0 format will not open in previous versions of LiveCode. Therefore it is doubly critical to backup your stacks. *Release contents* The number of bugs fixed is so large that it no longer makes sense to include a summary in the release email. Instead, please look at the bug fix section of the release notes which can be found here: http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/7_0_0/LiveCodeNotes-7_0_0_rc_2.pdf *Feeding Back* If you find an issue in this release, please report a bug at quality.runrev.com. Warm regards, The LiveCode Team ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 7.0 DP8
Crashes on You Only install attempt on Ubuntu Studio 14.04.1 Other install methods work. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0 DP7
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Benjamin Beaumont b...@runrev.com wrote: We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 7.0 DP6. I think you mean 7, Ben, right? *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0 DP7
Yes, DP7. Warm regards, Ben On 21 July 2014 18:10, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Benjamin Beaumont b...@runrev.com wrote: We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 7.0 DP6. I think you mean 7, Ben, right? *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- _ Benjamin Beaumont . RunRev Ltd LiveCode Product Manager mail : 25a Thistle Street Lane South West, Edinburgh, EH2 1EW email : b...@runrev.com company : +44(0) 845 219 89 23 fax : +44(0) 845 458 8487 web : www.runrev.com LiveCode - Programming made simple ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0 DP1
On 19 Mar 2014, at 23:16, Dave Kilroy d...@applicationinsight.com wrote: Hi all The release notes you get from the downloads page on the website are fine - however the release notes you get from 7.0.0's IDE menu give you release notes from 6.0.1 It looks like the office gremlins were at work here - we've re-uploaded the DMG for OSX Commercial (the other versions look fine) so future downloads should have the 7.0.0-DP-1 release notes. Not quite sure how that happened - I must have done something silly! I'd report it as a bug but there is no drop-down entry for LiveCode 7.0.0 at quality.runrev.com :) Maybe you should have reported that as a bug against 7.0.0 too ;) That should also be fixed - 7.0.0-DP-1 now appears in the drop-down list. Regards, Fraser ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0 DP1
Thanks Fraser! Actually though - is there a way to automatically insert relevant version number in the quality centre's drop-down so that bugs can be reported on new releases from the get-go? Fraser Gordon wrote That should also be fixed - 7.0.0-DP-1 now appears in the drop-down list. - Some are born coders, some achieve coding, and some have coding thrust upon them. - William Shakespeare Hugh Senior -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/RELEASE-LiveCode-7-0-DP1-tp4677240p4677276.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0 DP1
Thanks Fraser! Actually though, if LC could include an auto insert of new version numbers in the quality centre's drop-down then we can report bugs from the get-go... Fraser Gordon wrote That should also be fixed - 7.0.0-DP-1 now appears in the drop-down list. - Some are born coders, some achieve coding, and some have coding thrust upon them. - William Shakespeare Hugh Senior -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/RELEASE-LiveCode-7-0-DP1-tp4677240p4677277.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0 DP1
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:34 AM, Dave Kilroy d...@applicationinsight.comwrote: Actually though, if LC could include an auto insert of new version numbers in the quality centre's drop-down then we can report bugs from the get-go... It's not that hard to do . . . My software checks while opening the main stack whether it's in the IDE or not. If in the IDE, it checks whether the version from the filename is different from the version in the customProperties of the main stack. If it's different, I do things including setting the values in the application build stack, and the displayed version. No reason not to send another message adding the version number elsewhere (or asking). -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0 DP1
On 19/03/14 20:02, Heather Laine wrote: Dear List Members. We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 7.0 DP1. Ooh, ecstasy and a long night ahead of me! This should bring us the vast majority of the Kickstarter goals! It is our moral duty, Use-List members, to try and: 1. Break the thing. 2. Find glitches, inconsistencies, and so forth. Oh, Dear! (this is shorthand for something far coarser and stronger) I have to teach tomorrow, Thursday and Saturday morning. Bung on the strong coffee lads and lassies :) Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0 DP1
For types like me; -The engine files are much larger than previous versions due to inclusion of ICU data --- ICU = International Components for Unicode an open source project of mature C/C++ and Java libraries for Unicode support, software internationalization, and software globalization. --- I assume that that means the engine files are going to be much larger from here on in. -- I am currently trying to build a standalone leaving out the ICU data, 1. on the 'General' card of the standalone builder I cannot change the name of the standalone. We'll let that pass just now, 2. There is no dialog(ue) and/or checkbox where I can choose not to include the new ICU 'baggage'. Aha: the standalone won't execute. UbuntuStudio 13.10. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0 DP1
Currently there is no way to reduce the size of the executables, which are much larger. This is noted in ³Known issues². I notice that the release notes in the download are not correct, you can find the right ones here http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/7_0_0/LiveCodeNotes-7_0_0_dp_1.pdf Known issues = things we are going to address. We will be including a way to detect what is actually required and to reduce the size of your standalone in a future DP. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can code On 19/03/2014 18:46, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: For types like me; -The engine files are much larger than previous versions due to inclusion of ICU data --- ICU = International Components for Unicode an open source project of mature C/C++ and Java libraries for Unicode support, software internationalization, and software globalization. --- I assume that that means the engine files are going to be much larger from here on in. -- I am currently trying to build a standalone leaving out the ICU data, 1. on the 'General' card of the standalone builder I cannot change the name of the standalone. We'll let that pass just now, 2. There is no dialog(ue) and/or checkbox where I can choose not to include the new ICU 'baggage'. Aha: the standalone won't execute. UbuntuStudio 13.10. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0 DP1
On 19/03/14 20:52, Kevin Miller wrote: Currently there is no way to reduce the size of the executables, which are much larger. This is noted in ³Known issues². I notice that the release notes in the download are not correct, you can find the right ones here http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/7_0_0/LiveCodeNotes-7_0_0_dp_1.pdf Known issues = things we are going to address. We will be including a way to detect what is actually required and to reduce the size of your standalone in a future DP. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can code Thank you very much for such a quick response to my question. Richmond. On 19/03/2014 18:46, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: For types like me; -The engine files are much larger than previous versions due to inclusion of ICU data --- ICU = International Components for Unicode an open source project of mature C/C++ and Java libraries for Unicode support, software internationalization, and software globalization. --- I assume that that means the engine files are going to be much larger from here on in. -- I am currently trying to build a standalone leaving out the ICU data, 1. on the 'General' card of the standalone builder I cannot change the name of the standalone. We'll let that pass just now, 2. There is no dialog(ue) and/or checkbox where I can choose not to include the new ICU 'baggage'. Aha: the standalone won't execute. UbuntuStudio 13.10. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0 DP1
Building the same stack for Linux [ PISMO: http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/LANGTOOLS.html] I get these results; Livecode 6.6.0 rc 2: 12.9 MB Livecode 7.0.0 dp 1: 38.7 MB So, I assume that 25.8 MB is the size of the ICU data that gets rolled into the standalone. -- When I start to think about our Mac LC III we bought from Montgomery Ward in Carbondale, Illinois in 1993, with its 120 MB hard drive I start feeling a bit odd. -- Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0 DP1
Team, Thanks for the 7.0 DP1 Very exciting. FYI, http://quality.runrev.com should include this version in the version selector. Thanks, Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0 DP1
Hi all The release notes you get from the downloads page on the website are fine - however the release notes you get from 7.0.0's IDE menu give you release notes from 6.0.1 I'd report it as a bug but there is no drop-down entry for LiveCode 7.0.0 at quality.runrev.com :) - Some are born coders, some achieve coding, and some have coding thrust upon them. - William Shakespeare Hugh Senior -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/RELEASE-LiveCode-7-0-DP1-tp4677240p4677263.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
