Re: The Backdrop's Purpose In Life
On 6/12/23 12:43 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: On 5/26/23 10:58 PM, panagiotis m via use-livecode wrote: Note that the LC backdrop does not work on MacOS Ventura. Does anyone know what exactly doesn't work on Ventura? Nevermind, I found the bug report. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: The Backdrop's Purpose In Life
On 5/26/23 10:58 PM, panagiotis m via use-livecode wrote: Note that the LC backdrop does not work on MacOS Ventura. Does anyone know what exactly doesn't work on Ventura? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: The Backdrop's Purpose In Life
I think I had the same experience about 6 months ago. lolz "raiseWindows"? interesting. On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 12:12 PM panagiotis m via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > @Bob > You might want to have a look at the "raiseWindows" global property. > > Cheers, > Panos > -- > > On Tue, 30 May 2023 at 18:23, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > By way of reminder I am having the issue with Windows 10, as my Ventura > > laptop is still down. (Apparently Apple has not fixed the boot failure > > problem when doing a minor system update.) > > > > Apparently Windows treats every open window as it's own application > > instance. Alt-Tabbing to an LC window only brings that one window to the > > front. No pallets or toolbars come with it. But enabling the backdrop > fixes > > that. > > > > Bob Sneidar > > > > -Original Message- > > From: use-livecode On Behalf Of > > J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2023 2:46 PM > > To: How to use LiveCode > > Cc: J. Landman Gay > > Subject: Re: The Backdrop's Purpose In Life > > > > Did you try Cmd-tab to cycle to another app and back? Does it also work > if > > you bring another app to the front and then use the dock to return to LC? > > If so that would be good news. > > > > I did find a backdrop glitch in a standalone on Monterey. Only one window > > showed where there should have been two. > > > > -- > > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | > > http://www.hyperactivesw.com On May 27, 2023 10:06:43 AM Richmond via > > use-livecode wrote: > > > > > Note that the LC backdrop with LC 9.6.3 community works just fine with > > > MacOS Ventura. > > > > > > Kisses, Richmond. > > > > > > On 27.05.23 6:58, panagiotis m via use-livecode wrote: > > >> Hello all, > > >> > > >> Note that the LC backdrop does not work on MacOS Ventura. > > >> > > >> Cheers, > > >> Panos > > >> > > >> On Fri, 26 May 2023, 22:23 J. Landman Gay via use-livecode, < > > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > >> > > >>> On 5/26/23 1:14 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: > > >>>> Bob Sneidar wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> > HA! I just figured out what the purpose of the backdrop is! > > >>>> > If you have multiple LC windows open and you tab to another > > >>>> > app's window, then tab back to the LC window, ONLY that LC > > >>>> > window will appear in the foreground. With Backdrop on, ALL > > >>>> > the LC windows will become visible when you tab to any LC > > >>>> > window. > > >>>> > > >>>> The OS vendors help with that too: > > >>>> > > >>>> Windows: Shift-click Taskbar icon -> "Bring All Windows Forward" > > >>>> > > >>>> macOS: Window menu -> Bring All to Front > > >>>> > > >>> Clicking the icon in the Mac Dock also brings all windows forward. > > >>> -- > > >>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com > > >>> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > > >>> > > >>> ___ > > >>> use-livecode mailing list > > >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > >>> subscription preferences: > > >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > >>> > > >> ___ > > >> use-livecode mailing list > > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > >> subscription preferences: > > >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > use-livecode mailing list > > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > > subscription preferences: > > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: The Backdrop's Purpose In Life
Hello all, @Bob You might want to have a look at the "raiseWindows" global property. Cheers, Panos -- On Tue, 30 May 2023 at 18:23, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > By way of reminder I am having the issue with Windows 10, as my Ventura > laptop is still down. (Apparently Apple has not fixed the boot failure > problem when doing a minor system update.) > > Apparently Windows treats every open window as it's own application > instance. Alt-Tabbing to an LC window only brings that one window to the > front. No pallets or toolbars come with it. But enabling the backdrop fixes > that. > > Bob Sneidar > > -Original Message- > From: use-livecode On Behalf Of > J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2023 2:46 PM > To: How to use LiveCode > Cc: J. Landman Gay > Subject: Re: The Backdrop's Purpose In Life > > Did you try Cmd-tab to cycle to another app and back? Does it also work if > you bring another app to the front and then use the dock to return to LC? > If so that would be good news. > > I did find a backdrop glitch in a standalone on Monterey. Only one window > showed where there should have been two. > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | > http://www.hyperactivesw.com On May 27, 2023 10:06:43 AM Richmond via > use-livecode wrote: > > > Note that the LC backdrop with LC 9.6.3 community works just fine with > > MacOS Ventura. > > > > Kisses, Richmond. > > > > On 27.05.23 6:58, panagiotis m via use-livecode wrote: > >> Hello all, > >> > >> Note that the LC backdrop does not work on MacOS Ventura. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Panos > >> > >> On Fri, 26 May 2023, 22:23 J. Landman Gay via use-livecode, < > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> > >>> On 5/26/23 1:14 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: > >>>> Bob Sneidar wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > HA! I just figured out what the purpose of the backdrop is! > >>>> > If you have multiple LC windows open and you tab to another > >>>> > app's window, then tab back to the LC window, ONLY that LC > >>>> > window will appear in the foreground. With Backdrop on, ALL > >>>> > the LC windows will become visible when you tab to any LC > >>>> > window. > >>>> > >>>> The OS vendors help with that too: > >>>> > >>>> Windows: Shift-click Taskbar icon -> "Bring All Windows Forward" > >>>> > >>>> macOS: Window menu -> Bring All to Front > >>>> > >>> Clicking the icon in the Mac Dock also brings all windows forward. > >>> -- > >>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com > >>> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> use-livecode mailing list > >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >>> subscription preferences: > >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > >>> > >> ___ > >> use-livecode mailing list > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >> subscription preferences: > >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: The Backdrop's Purpose In Life
By way of reminder I am having the issue with Windows 10, as my Ventura laptop is still down. (Apparently Apple has not fixed the boot failure problem when doing a minor system update.) Apparently Windows treats every open window as it's own application instance. Alt-Tabbing to an LC window only brings that one window to the front. No pallets or toolbars come with it. But enabling the backdrop fixes that. Bob Sneidar -Original Message- From: use-livecode On Behalf Of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2023 2:46 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: J. Landman Gay Subject: Re: The Backdrop's Purpose In Life Did you try Cmd-tab to cycle to another app and back? Does it also work if you bring another app to the front and then use the dock to return to LC? If so that would be good news. I did find a backdrop glitch in a standalone on Monterey. Only one window showed where there should have been two. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On May 27, 2023 10:06:43 AM Richmond via use-livecode wrote: > Note that the LC backdrop with LC 9.6.3 community works just fine with > MacOS Ventura. > > Kisses, Richmond. > > On 27.05.23 6:58, panagiotis m via use-livecode wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> Note that the LC backdrop does not work on MacOS Ventura. >> >> Cheers, >> Panos >> >> On Fri, 26 May 2023, 22:23 J. Landman Gay via use-livecode, < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >>> On 5/26/23 1:14 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: >>>> Bob Sneidar wrote: >>>> >>>> > HA! I just figured out what the purpose of the backdrop is! >>>> > If you have multiple LC windows open and you tab to another >>>> > app's window, then tab back to the LC window, ONLY that LC >>>> > window will appear in the foreground. With Backdrop on, ALL >>>> > the LC windows will become visible when you tab to any LC >>>> > window. >>>> >>>> The OS vendors help with that too: >>>> >>>> Windows: Shift-click Taskbar icon -> "Bring All Windows Forward" >>>> >>>> macOS: Window menu -> Bring All to Front >>>> >>> Clicking the icon in the Mac Dock also brings all windows forward. >>> -- >>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com >>> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com >>> >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: The Backdrop's Purpose In Life
Did you try Cmd-tab to cycle to another app and back? Does it also work if you bring another app to the front and then use the dock to return to LC? If so that would be good news. I did find a backdrop glitch in a standalone on Monterey. Only one window showed where there should have been two. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On May 27, 2023 10:06:43 AM Richmond via use-livecode wrote: Note that the LC backdrop with LC 9.6.3 community works just fine with MacOS Ventura. Kisses, Richmond. On 27.05.23 6:58, panagiotis m via use-livecode wrote: Hello all, Note that the LC backdrop does not work on MacOS Ventura. Cheers, Panos On Fri, 26 May 2023, 22:23 J. Landman Gay via use-livecode, < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: On 5/26/23 1:14 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Bob Sneidar wrote: > HA! I just figured out what the purpose of the backdrop is! > If you have multiple LC windows open and you tab to another > app's window, then tab back to the LC window, ONLY that LC > window will appear in the foreground. With Backdrop on, ALL > the LC windows will become visible when you tab to any LC > window. The OS vendors help with that too: Windows: Shift-click Taskbar icon -> "Bring All Windows Forward" macOS: Window menu -> Bring All to Front Clicking the icon in the Mac Dock also brings all windows forward. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: The Backdrop's Purpose In Life
Note that the LC backdrop with LC 9.6.3 community works just fine with MacOS Ventura. Kisses, Richmond. On 27.05.23 6:58, panagiotis m via use-livecode wrote: Hello all, Note that the LC backdrop does not work on MacOS Ventura. Cheers, Panos On Fri, 26 May 2023, 22:23 J. Landman Gay via use-livecode, < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: On 5/26/23 1:14 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Bob Sneidar wrote: > HA! I just figured out what the purpose of the backdrop is! > If you have multiple LC windows open and you tab to another > app's window, then tab back to the LC window, ONLY that LC > window will appear in the foreground. With Backdrop on, ALL > the LC windows will become visible when you tab to any LC > window. The OS vendors help with that too: Windows: Shift-click Taskbar icon -> "Bring All Windows Forward" macOS: Window menu -> Bring All to Front Clicking the icon in the Mac Dock also brings all windows forward. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: The Backdrop's Purpose In Life
Will this be fixed? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On May 26, 2023 11:01:09 PM panagiotis m via use-livecode wrote: Hello all, Note that the LC backdrop does not work on MacOS Ventura. Cheers, Panos ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: The Backdrop's Purpose In Life
Hello all, Note that the LC backdrop does not work on MacOS Ventura. Cheers, Panos On Fri, 26 May 2023, 22:23 J. Landman Gay via use-livecode, < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 5/26/23 1:14 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: > > Bob Sneidar wrote: > > > > > HA! I just figured out what the purpose of the backdrop is! > > > If you have multiple LC windows open and you tab to another > > > app's window, then tab back to the LC window, ONLY that LC > > > window will appear in the foreground. With Backdrop on, ALL > > > the LC windows will become visible when you tab to any LC > > > window. > > > > The OS vendors help with that too: > > > > Windows: Shift-click Taskbar icon -> "Bring All Windows Forward" > > > > macOS: Window menu -> Bring All to Front > > > > Clicking the icon in the Mac Dock also brings all windows forward. > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: The Backdrop's Purpose In Life
On 5/26/23 1:14 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Bob Sneidar wrote: > HA! I just figured out what the purpose of the backdrop is! > If you have multiple LC windows open and you tab to another > app's window, then tab back to the LC window, ONLY that LC > window will appear in the foreground. With Backdrop on, ALL > the LC windows will become visible when you tab to any LC > window. The OS vendors help with that too: Windows: Shift-click Taskbar icon -> "Bring All Windows Forward" macOS: Window menu -> Bring All to Front Clicking the icon in the Mac Dock also brings all windows forward. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: The Backdrop's Purpose In Life
Huh. Windows not working for me. I'll try MacOS when I get my laptop up and running again. MacOS Update bricked the boot volume. Again. For the 3rd time. Bob S -Original Message- From: use-livecode On Behalf Of Richard Gaskin via use-livecode Sent: Friday, May 26, 2023 11:14 AM To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Cc: Richard Gaskin Subject: Re: The Backdrop's Purpose In Life Bob Sneidar wrote: > HA! I just figured out what the purpose of the backdrop is! > If you have multiple LC windows open and you tab to another > app's window, > then tab back to the LC window, ONLY that LC > window will appear in the > foreground. With Backdrop on, ALL > the LC windows will become visible when > you tab to any LC > window. The OS vendors help with that too: Windows: Shift-click Taskbar icon -> "Bring All Windows Forward" macOS: Window menu -> Bring All to Front -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: The Backdrop's Purpose In Life
Bob Sneidar wrote: > HA! I just figured out what the purpose of the backdrop is! > If you have multiple LC windows open and you tab to another > app's window, then tab back to the LC window, ONLY that LC > window will appear in the foreground. With Backdrop on, ALL > the LC windows will become visible when you tab to any LC > window. The OS vendors help with that too: Windows: Shift-click Taskbar icon -> "Bring All Windows Forward" macOS: Window menu -> Bring All to Front -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
