Re: iOS SDK Question

[Glen Bojsza via use-livecode]

Hi James,

Well I saw this in my account...but the license file and online activation
won't work?

So is this telling me I still have valid license for the following versions
but the system won't allow me to install them?

I have tried both the license file which ends up a zero bytes or automatic
licensing where I repeatedly get an error message...

===
Copied Directly From My Account Page
===

You license allows you access to the following platforms:

Mac valid from version 5.5.x to version 8.0.2
Windows valid from version 5.5.x to version 8.0.2
Linux valid from version 5.5.x to version 8.0.2
iOS valid from version 5.5.x to version 8.0.2
Android valid from version 5.5.x to version 8.0.2
Server valid from version 5.5.x to version 8.0.2

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 8:41 PM, James Hale via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> The other way to be sure about your particular case is to visit your
> account page on the LiveCode site. The login link is in the upper right of
> the page.
>
> When I visit mine I see all my licenses and can tell from the version
> pop-up associated with each one what is actually licensed.
>
> I have 4
>
> From the oldest to the newest they go:
> LiveCode Personal- the pop up shows 4.6.4 and the deployment tab indicates
> it is for iOS
> LiveCode Commercial - the pop up shows 5.5.5 and the deployment tab
> indicates three platforms (Mac Windows and Linux) versions 4.5.x to 5.5.x
> LiveCode Commercial - the pop up shows 8.1.3 down to 6.1.0 and the
> deployment tab shows 7 platforms valid for all versions. This is a
> perpetual license from the kickstarter.
> LiveCode Business - the pop up shows 8.1.3 down to 6.1.0 and the
> deployment tab shows 6 platforms valid as follows: valid for all versions
> while your subscription remains active.
> So, while I have a perpetual commercial license my business license needs
> to be renewed annually. This means if I do not renew it I can no longer
> use, maintain, develop or release using the business edition.
>
> If you examine what you have listed under your account page on the
> LiveCode site you will be able to answer you questions.
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Re: iOS SDK Question

[James Hale via use-livecode]

The other way to be sure about your particular case is to visit your account 
page on the LiveCode site. The login link is in the upper right of the page.

When I visit mine I see all my licenses and can tell from the version pop-up 
associated with each one what is actually licensed.

I have 4

>From the oldest to the newest they go:
LiveCode Personal- the pop up shows 4.6.4 and the deployment tab indicates it 
is for iOS 
LiveCode Commercial - the pop up shows 5.5.5 and the deployment tab indicates 
three platforms (Mac Windows and Linux) versions 4.5.x to 5.5.x
LiveCode Commercial - the pop up shows 8.1.3 down to 6.1.0 and the deployment 
tab shows 7 platforms valid for all versions. This is a perpetual license from 
the kickstarter.
LiveCode Business - the pop up shows 8.1.3 down to 6.1.0 and the deployment tab 
shows 6 platforms valid as follows: valid for all versions while your 
subscription remains active.
So, while I have a perpetual commercial license my business license needs to be 
renewed annually. This means if I do not renew it I can no longer use, 
maintain, develop or release using the business edition.

If you examine what you have listed under your account page on the LiveCode 
site you will be able to answer you questions.

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Re: iOS SDK Question

[Glen Bojsza via use-livecode]

Hi James, thanks for pointing this to me.

I guess my earlier licenses that I had which do not fall into this category
would be fine though the versions would be quite old.

For example version 4.6 I should be able to do closed source apps still
since the license that came with it at the time did not have this
requirement.

I am not certain about the last version I have installed on my old machine
but I think it was in the 6 series and I bet if I boot up the machine the
software should still work...it's the software that came after my license
expired last year is what will need a new license for to build closed apps?

Again, I should be getting an answer from Livecode support this coming week
to clarify things.

Glen



On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 10:28 AM, James Hale via use-livecode <
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> On the "pricing" page of the Livecode site, towards the bottom, there is
> an FAQ.
> The first question there is indeed what you are asking.
> The answer given is:
> "To build closed source apps you must have a valid current Indy, Business
> or other commercial license. If you do not renew this license your access
> to LiveCode will revert to the Open Source edition and you will no longer
> be able to build closed source apps."
>
> Fairly clear.
>
> James
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Re: iOS SDK Question

[James Hale via use-livecode]

On the "pricing" page of the Livecode site, towards the bottom, there is an FAQ.
The first question there is indeed what you are asking.
The answer given is:
"To build closed source apps you must have a valid current Indy, Business or 
other commercial license. If you do not renew this license your access to 
LiveCode will revert to the Open Source edition and you will no longer be able 
to build closed source apps."

Fairly clear.

James

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Re: iOS SDK Question

[Glen Bojsza via use-livecode]

I'm not sure so I am waiting to hear from Livecode support. 

But Pycharm tried a system where users would lose their ability to continually 
use the product after licenses expired and the users revolted and Pycharm 
reversed their policy.

I guess it comes to the question of how you want to work with your user base.

Once I get an answer I will post it here to confirm what the situation is.

Glen

> On Mar 24, 2017, at 4:36 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> It was explained to me that when the license expires, I would be unable to 
> use the indy license for existing installations of Livecode, which shocked me 
> as this was a departure from prior policy, but that horse has been beaten 
> despite it's lifeless condition. 
> 
> I might be mistaken. It may only mean I cannot create standalones and 
> download any versions released after the license expiry. 
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 
>> On Mar 24, 2017, at 11:14 , Glen Bojsza via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> As I mentioned previously...I do not have an active subscription.
>> 
>> My license expired August 2016. 
>> 
>> When I log into my account the highest version of Livecode Indy that shows I 
>> can download is 8.1.3.
>> 
>> I even tried activating a 7 version of Livecode which was a year prior to my 
>> license expiring and it fails.
>> 
>> But I believe that I should still be able to use the Livecode Indy version 
>> that was covered prior to expiration. Hence, my email to Livecode support in 
>> asking what is the highest Livecode version that I can still use.
>> 
>> Glen
> 
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Re: iOS SDK Question

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

It was explained to me that when the license expires, I would be unable to use 
the indy license for existing installations of Livecode, which shocked me as 
this was a departure from prior policy, but that horse has been beaten despite 
it's lifeless condition. 

I might be mistaken. It may only mean I cannot create standalones and download 
any versions released after the license expiry. 

Bob S


> On Mar 24, 2017, at 11:14 , Glen Bojsza via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> As I mentioned previously...I do not have an active subscription.
> 
> My license expired August 2016. 
> 
> When I log into my account the highest version of Livecode Indy that shows I 
> can download is 8.1.3.
> 
> I even tried activating a 7 version of Livecode which was a year prior to my 
> license expiring and it fails.
> 
> But I believe that I should still be able to use the Livecode Indy version 
> that was covered prior to expiration. Hence, my email to Livecode support in 
> asking what is the highest Livecode version that I can still use.
> 
> Glen


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Re: iOS SDK Question

[Glen Bojsza via use-livecode]

As I mentioned previously...I do not have an active subscription.

My license expired August 2016. 

When I log into my account the highest version of Livecode Indy that shows I 
can download is 8.1.3.

I even tried activating a 7 version of Livecode which was a year prior to my 
license expiring and it fails.

But I believe that I should still be able to use the Livecode Indy version that 
was covered prior to expiration. Hence, my email to Livecode support in asking 
what is the highest Livecode version that I can still use.

Glen

> On Mar 24, 2017, at 1:17 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think that if you log into your account area, you should see all the LC
> versions you can access with your current license.
> 
> If you have an active subscription to Indy then you should be able to
> activate any of them.
> 
> I suggest you just download and try, or log into your account area to see.
> 
> Best,
> Panos
> --
> 
> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Glen Bojsza via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> I believe it may be the last paid version that I have a license for (I
>> sent a message to Livecode support to confirm what the highest paid version
>> I have access to).
>> 
>> Glen
>> 
>>> On Mar 24, 2017, at 12:58 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> @Glen
>>> 
>>> Why are you still using LC 8.0.1? I suggest you download the latest
>> stable
>>> version, currently 8.1.3:
>>> 
>>> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/
>>> 
>>> Note that 8.1.3 on OS X 10.11.x will require Xcode 8.2.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Panos
>>> --
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Paul Hibbert via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
 
>> On 23 Mar 2017, at 17:36, Glen Bojsza via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Please let me know if I missed anything.
 
 
 It looks like you are on the right path. Hope it goes well.
 
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Re: iOS SDK Question

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

I think that if you log into your account area, you should see all the LC
versions you can access with your current license.

If you have an active subscription to Indy then you should be able to
activate any of them.

I suggest you just download and try, or log into your account area to see.

Best,
Panos
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On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Glen Bojsza via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I believe it may be the last paid version that I have a license for (I
> sent a message to Livecode support to confirm what the highest paid version
> I have access to).
>
> Glen
>
> > On Mar 24, 2017, at 12:58 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > @Glen
> >
> > Why are you still using LC 8.0.1? I suggest you download the latest
> stable
> > version, currently 8.1.3:
> >
> > http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/
> >
> > Note that 8.1.3 on OS X 10.11.x will require Xcode 8.2.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Panos
> > --
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Paul Hibbert via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
>  On 23 Mar 2017, at 17:36, Glen Bojsza via use-livecode <
> >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Please let me know if I missed anything.
> >>
> >>
> >> It looks like you are on the right path. Hope it goes well.
> >>
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Re: iOS SDK Question

[Glen Bojsza via use-livecode]

I believe it may be the last paid version that I have a license for (I sent a 
message to Livecode support to confirm what the highest paid version I have 
access to).

Glen

> On Mar 24, 2017, at 12:58 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> @Glen
> 
> Why are you still using LC 8.0.1? I suggest you download the latest stable
> version, currently 8.1.3:
> 
> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/
> 
> Note that 8.1.3 on OS X 10.11.x will require Xcode 8.2.
> 
> Best regards,
> Panos
> --
> 
> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Paul Hibbert via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
 On 23 Mar 2017, at 17:36, Glen Bojsza via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Please let me know if I missed anything.
>> 
>> 
>> It looks like you are on the right path. Hope it goes well.
>> 
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Re: iOS SDK Question

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

@Glen

Why are you still using LC 8.0.1? I suggest you download the latest stable
version, currently 8.1.3:

http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/

Note that 8.1.3 on OS X 10.11.x will require Xcode 8.2.

Best regards,
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>
> > On 23 Mar 2017, at 17:36, Glen Bojsza via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Please let me know if I missed anything.
>
>
> It looks like you are on the right path. Hope it goes well.
>
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Re: iOS SDK Question

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> On 23 Mar 2017, at 17:36, Glen Bojsza via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Please let me know if I missed anything.


It looks like you are on the right path. Hope it goes well.

Paul
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Re: iOS SDK Question

[Glen Bojsza via use-livecode]

Hi Paul,
It looks like you are correct and so I have started the massive download.

I assume that once installed I would then do an "add entry" in 
Livecode-->Preferences-->Mobile and select the /Applications/Xcode

This should then find the SDK in the contents of Xcode...

Please let me know if I missed anything.

thanks,

Glen

> On Mar 23, 2017, at 8:10 PM, Paul Hibbert via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> AFAIK the iOS SDK comes with the particular flavour of Xcode and you need to 
> have the correct version of Xcode to match the version of LC on your choice 
> of OS, if you go to Help > Release Notes the version you need is listed under 
> the iOS Platform Support section, about page 4 I think, or bookmark this link 
> for future ref:
> 
> https://livecode.com/support/ask-a-question/what-iosxcode-version-matches-which-version-of-livecode/
>  
> 
> 
> According to this list, it appears that you need to use Xcode 7.3
> 
> Almost every time Xcode or LiveCode updates the connection breaks, so once 
> you have a working combination it’s worth making sure you have a good 
> back-up, especially considering Xcode is over 4.5GB. It also helps to turn 
> off auto software updates and manage them manually.
> 
> Paul
> 
>> On 23 Mar 2017, at 13:20, Glen Bojsza via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I currently have Livecode Indy 8.0.1 and am running on OS X 10.11.5 (El
>> Capitan) with Xcode Version 8.0 (8A218a).
>> 
>> When I go to generate a standalone I get the following error message:
>> 
>> *In order to perform device builds you need to have iOS 9.3 SDK configured.*
>> *- iOS  9.3 comes with Xcode 7.3*
>> 
>> 
>> How do I find what version of SDK I have and in Livecode Preferences what
>> is the location I can add the entry for the SDK?
>> 
>> Years ago in Livecode 5 it seemed that Livecode knew all the SDK Versions
>> available and the preferences reflected this?
>> 
>> regards,
>> 
>> Glen
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Re: iOS SDK Question

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AFAIK the iOS SDK comes with the particular flavour of Xcode and you need to 
have the correct version of Xcode to match the version of LC on your choice of 
OS, if you go to Help > Release Notes the version you need is listed under the 
iOS Platform Support section, about page 4 I think, or bookmark this link for 
future ref:

https://livecode.com/support/ask-a-question/what-iosxcode-version-matches-which-version-of-livecode/
 


According to this list, it appears that you need to use Xcode 7.3

Almost every time Xcode or LiveCode updates the connection breaks, so once you 
have a working combination it’s worth making sure you have a good back-up, 
especially considering Xcode is over 4.5GB. It also helps to turn off auto 
software updates and manage them manually.

Paul

> On 23 Mar 2017, at 13:20, Glen Bojsza via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I currently have Livecode Indy 8.0.1 and am running on OS X 10.11.5 (El
> Capitan) with Xcode Version 8.0 (8A218a).
> 
> When I go to generate a standalone I get the following error message:
> 
> *In order to perform device builds you need to have iOS 9.3 SDK configured.*
> *- iOS  9.3 comes with Xcode 7.3*
> 
> 
> How do I find what version of SDK I have and in Livecode Preferences what
> is the location I can add the entry for the SDK?
> 
> Years ago in Livecode 5 it seemed that Livecode knew all the SDK Versions
> available and the preferences reflected this?
> 
> regards,
> 
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