Re: Moving Multiple Objects

2006-03-08 Thread Phil Davis

Hi Judy,

I'm pretty bleery-eyed at this time of day, but I reorganized your code 
slightly and got improved (I think) results. Here's what I did:


on preOpenCard -- no changes here
  set the loc of image "BStone1.gif" to 326,152
  set the loc of image "Bstone2.gif" to 215,155
  set the loc of image "BStone3.gif" to 268,242
end preOpenCard


on openCard -- removed some code
  set lockMoves to true
  move image "BStone1.gif" to 588,-72 in 2 secs without waiting
  move image "BStone2.gif" to -65,-21 in 2 secs without waiting
  move image "BStone3.gif" to 290,459 in 2 secs without waiting
  set lockMoves to false
end openCard


on moveStopped -- new handler
  if the movingControls <> empty -- something is still moving
  then -- defer action
exit moveStopped
  end if

  -- if all movement has ended, GO!
  visual effect dissolve
  go next card
end moveStopped


See if this does what you need.

Phil



Judy Perry wrote:

Hi Phil,

I used a preOpenCard handler to handle the initial locations of the three
images, then an openCard handler to handle their movement.

Here is the entire card script:

on preOpenCard
  set the loc of image "BStone1.gif" to 326,152
  set the loc of image "Bstone2.gif" to 215,155
  set the loc of image "BStone3.gif" to 268,242
end preOpenCard

on openCard
  set lockMoves to true
  move image "BStone1.gif" to 588,-72 in 2 secs without waiting
  move image "BStone2.gif" to -65,-21 in 2 secs without waiting
  move image "BStone3.gif" to 290,459 in 2 secs without waiting
  set lockMoves to false
  wait 15 ticks
ual effect dissolve
  go next card
end openCard

Any other ideas???

Gratefully received...

Judy

On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Phil Davis wrote:



Have you tried starting it from an 'openCard' handler? I'm thinking the
preOpenCard start might be hosing something, since the card is not yet
drawn at that time. (At least that's how I think of it.)


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Re: Expanded DPI images for printing -Good News (news to me anyway)...

2006-03-08 Thread Scott Morrow

Stephen,
This isn't exactly what you are doing and if familiar to you then  
perhaps someone else will say "Ah!" but, you can get a similar effect  
with image types other than PICT.  I often use a GIF image that is  
much bigger than what I want to print.  By scaling it (setting the  
height and  width )and setting the lockLoc property to keep it from  
resizing, you can then print it (since all those dots were squeezed  
into a smaller space) at a higher resolution, depending on how much  
you scaled it.  I usually end up making a separate screen version  
that has some antialiasing or whatnot and then swap for the other  
when it is time to print.


-Scott Morrow

Elementary Software
(Now with 20% less chalk dust !)
web http://elementarysoftware.com/
email   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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On Mar 8, 2006, at 11:13 PM, Stephen Barncard wrote:

If this is in the docs, and I'm ignorant of this I apologize, but  
I'd like to share my discovery.


Ever since I started working with x-talks 18 years ago, I wanted a  
way to print 300 dpi images from a card. I got the impression from  
my last year of experiments that it was not possible.


Today I was messing around with loading images on a card recently  
with different file sources using the filename property. I noticed  
a few old images that I loaded were much smaller in size than I  
remember, and not only that, when printed, had the appropriate  
detail. This is what I came up with:


When you are creating a graphic from photoshop, set the DPI to 300  
or whatever. Set the size to what size in inches,etc. you want on  
the card. Save as a PICT  file!!


Setting the filename of an image object to a PICT file will force  
the object to print the DPI indicated in the image file. The image  
on the screen is dpi-scaled and is totally WYSIWYG.


In other words, Rev reads the DPI of the image from the file and  
prints accordingly in the print region. This does not work with  
PNG, Gif or jpg images, that show and print at screen resolution.


So has rev always worked this way, or is this new?
Weren't we encouraged to not use picts anymore?
And finally, are PC users able to create picts?
--
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Re: Font Dialog Box

2006-03-08 Thread Scott Morrow

Nice job, Garrett!  What a slick little tool.

-Scott Morrow

Elementary Software
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On Mar 8, 2006, at 7:03 PM, Garrett Hylltun wrote:

Based on some of my own code and code shared by Chipp Walters, I  
put together a font dialog that removes unicode fonts from the  
list, and then represents each font in it's own font in the list.


Uploaded to the "user spaces" as "Stack:  fontDialogBasic" and  
"Title: Basic font dialog example"


If you have problems using the "user spaces", download from here:
http://www.paraboliclogic.com/misc/fontDialogBasic.rev

Thanks Chipp for code that started this.  :-)

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Expanded DPI images for printing -Good News (news to me anyway)...

2006-03-08 Thread Stephen Barncard
If this is in the docs, and I'm ignorant of this I apologize, but I'd 
like to share my discovery.


Ever since I started working with x-talks 18 years ago, I wanted a 
way to print 300 dpi images from a card. I got the impression from my 
last year of experiments that it was not possible.


Today I was messing around with loading images on a card recently 
with different file sources using the filename property. I noticed a 
few old images that I loaded were much smaller in size than I 
remember, and not only that, when printed, had the appropriate 
detail. This is what I came up with:


When you are creating a graphic from photoshop, set the DPI to 300 or 
whatever. Set the size to what size in inches,etc. you want on the 
card. Save as a PICT  file!!


Setting the filename of an image object to a PICT file will force the 
object to print the DPI indicated in the image file. The image on the 
screen is dpi-scaled and is totally WYSIWYG.


In other words, Rev reads the DPI of the image from the file and 
prints accordingly in the print region. This does not work with PNG, 
Gif or jpg images, that show and print at screen resolution.


So has rev always worked this way, or is this new?
Weren't we encouraged to not use picts anymore?
And finally, are PC users able to create picts?
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Re: Moving Multiple Objects

2006-03-08 Thread Judy Perry
Hi Phil,

I used a preOpenCard handler to handle the initial locations of the three
images, then an openCard handler to handle their movement.

Here is the entire card script:

on preOpenCard
  set the loc of image "BStone1.gif" to 326,152
  set the loc of image "Bstone2.gif" to 215,155
  set the loc of image "BStone3.gif" to 268,242
end preOpenCard

on openCard
  set lockMoves to true
  move image "BStone1.gif" to 588,-72 in 2 secs without waiting
  move image "BStone2.gif" to -65,-21 in 2 secs without waiting
  move image "BStone3.gif" to 290,459 in 2 secs without waiting
  set lockMoves to false
  wait 15 ticks
ual effect dissolve
  go next card
end openCard

Any other ideas???

Gratefully received...

Judy

On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Phil Davis wrote:

> Have you tried starting it from an 'openCard' handler? I'm thinking the
> preOpenCard start might be hosing something, since the card is not yet
> drawn at that time. (At least that's how I think of it.)
>

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Re: Moving Multiple Objects

2006-03-08 Thread Phil Davis

Hi Judy,


Judy Perry wrote:

Scott,

I did start them off from a pre-determined location in a preOpenCard
handler. (sorry I didn't include that part).


Have you tried starting it from an 'openCard' handler? I'm thinking the 
preOpenCard start might be hosing something, since the card is not yet 
drawn at that time. (At least that's how I think of it.)


Just a thought -
Phil Davis

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Re: Moving Multiple Objects

2006-03-08 Thread Judy Perry
Scott,

I did start them off from a pre-determined location in a preOpenCard
handler. (sorry I didn't include that part).

I don't understand (I might well be denser than, well, I don't know!):

The only wait statement is AFTER the move statement(s).  And after the
'set lockMoves to false' statement.  AFAIU, that shouldn't affect the
simultaneous moves.

No, the problem is that the objects do NOT move simultaneously; they move
serially.  That is, the first moves, waits a little bit, then the second,
ditto, and then the third.

They do move, but nothing like simultaneously, which my reading of the
docs would suggest is possible using the 'set lockMoves to true... set
lockMoves to false' is possible.

I'm really pretty certain that I've done something TREMENDOUSLY stupid...
Just don't know what!

I'll try 'without waiting'... (hope I have enough RAM to try this!)...

Okay... that works, but only sorta, kinda.

That is, I don't see the three images flying off the screen as scripted...
instead, I see them move about a third of the way, then the card moves on
to the next card.  BUT THEY'RE MOVING SIMULTANEOUSLY!!  (doing the
Snoopy-dance)

Any further ideas?? (and, thanks, Scott, for getting me half-way there...
better than  my not-even!).

Judy

 On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Scott Rossi wrote:

> I'm not sure if the problem you're having is that the objects are not moving
> simultaneously or something else.  However, the lock moves is usually for
> starting objects off at the same time.
>
> Instead, try removing the lock/unlockmoves lines and try adding "without
> waiting" to each move line in your script, for example:
>
>   move image "BStone1.gif" to 588,-72 in 2 secs without waiting
>
> See if this is the effect you're looking for.

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Re: Moving Multiple Objects

2006-03-08 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Judy Perry wrote:

> I am trying to use the move command to simultaneously move three images in
> 2.7. on Mac OS 10.3.9 (not that this probably matters given that the error
> is almost certainly due to 'stupid user syndrome').
> 
> Here is what the docs say:
> 
> "To move multiple objects at the same time, set the lockMoves property to
> true before issuing the move commands.  When you set the lockMoves back to
> false, all the pending moves begin at once."
> 
> So, here's my script (which doesn't, incidentally, move all three images
> simultaneously)

I'm not sure if the problem you're having is that the objects are not moving
simultaneously or something else.  However, the lock moves is usually for
starting objects off at the same time.

Instead, try removing the lock/unlockmoves lines and try adding "without
waiting" to each move line in your script, for example:

  move image "BStone1.gif" to 588,-72 in 2 secs without waiting

See if this is the effect you're looking for.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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Encryption library & CGI

2006-03-08 Thread Thomas McCarthy

Is there a way to include the ecryption library in a stack (like when one makes 
a libURL stack)?

I would like to use the encrypt command from my cgi.

thanks.
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Moving Multiple Objects

2006-03-08 Thread Judy Perry
Hi,

I am trying to use the move command to simultaneously move three images in
2.7. on Mac OS 10.3.9 (not that this probably matters given that the error
is almost certainly due to 'stupid user syndrome').

Here is what the docs say:

"To move multiple objects at the same time, set the lockMoves property to
true before issuing the move commands.  When you set the lockMoves back to
false, all the pending moves begin at once."

So, here's my script (which doesn't, incidentally, move all three images
simultaneously):

on openCard
  set the lockMoves to true
  move image "BStone1.gif" to 588,-72 in 2 secs
  move image "BStone2.gif" to -65,-21 in 2 secs
  move image "BStone3.gif" to 290,459 in 2 secs
  set the lockMoves to false
  wait 15 ticks
  visual effect dissolve
  go next card
end openCard

The docs entry for lockMoves gives the following example script:

Well, okay, so I WAS going to copy and paste in the script EXCEPT, of
course, that YOU CAN'T DO THAT!!!  :-/

What am I doing wrong?  (I'm trying to come up with a little animation
tutorial for my students that doesn't include the Animation Builder or
whatever it was called).

I've tried lockMoves without the "the" and the result is the same.

Any ideas?

Oh, and does anybody know where the old Bryce 4 demo can be found?  I had
a copy but my department's dying ftp server fubar'd the file.

As it did for iMovie (which we owned)... and a number of other
shareware/demos...

:-(

Judy

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Re: importing list

2006-03-08 Thread Jim Ault

---
Another approach would have an advantage or two.
ONE - using a web address like http://website.com would not use the colon as
a delimiter, since the 'split' command only considers the first occurance
TWO - if any glitches occurred that added spurious lines that did not match
an existing field, these would be ignored. (eg. tab, space)
THREE - if your labels have a leading/trailing space this will get cleaned
off
FOUR -- filter rawData without empty

NOTE: I would recommend that you not use "/" in your field label (eg.
Principal/Director)  can lead to problems later with scripting.

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> repeat
>put url ("file:/Path/To/Your/File.txt") into rawData
 filter rawData without empty
 split rawData using cr and ":"
 put the keys of rawData into fldnames
>
>
>
>copy card "template" to this stack --create a new card for the data
>go last card
>
   repeat for each line FLDNM in fldnames
 put word 1 to -1 of FLDNM into FLDNM
 if there is a field FLDNM then
put rawData[ FLDNM] into fld ( FLDNM )
  end if
   end repeat --fld fill loop

> end repeat --main loop



On 3/8/06 1:56 PM, "Devin Asay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Liam,
> 
> If I understand correctly, your files contain lists like the one in
> your message, which repeat over and over in a single file. So one
> file might have many "records".
> 
> This is how I'd approach it:
> 
> Create a stack with just one card, a "template" with all the proper
> fields.
> 
> repeat
>put url ("file:/Path/To/Your/File.txt") into rawData
>put lineOffset("Name:",rawData) into recStart
>if recStart = 0 then exit repeat
>put lineOffset("Type:",rawData) into recEnd
>put line recStart to recEnd of rawData into tCurrRecord
>delete line recStart to recEnd of rawData
>replace cr&cr with cr in tCurrRecord -- get rid of empty lines
>copy card "template" to this stack --create a new card for the data
>go last card
>set the itemDelimiter to ":"
>repeat for each line tLine in tCurrRecord
>  put item 2 of tLine into fld (item 1 of tLine)
>end repeat
> end repeat
> 
> This is untested but should be mostly right.
> 
> Devin
> 
> On Mar 8, 2006, at 11:14 AM, liamlambert wrote:
> 
>> I have a large amount of plane text files that are laid out like
>> this Below
>> 
>> 
>> Name:
>> 
>> Roll Number:
>> 
>> Address:
>> 
>> Principal/Director:
>> 
>> Phone:
>> 
>> Fax:
>> 
>> Email:
>> 
>> Website:
>> 
>> Female Enrolment:
>> 
>> Male Enrolment:
>> 
>> Type: Primary
>> 
>> I want to import the info that is after the  colon into fields of
>> the same name as the list above the list repeats name roll number ect
>> Liam Lambert
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> IRELAND
>> 
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Re: Font Dialog Box

2006-03-08 Thread Garrett Hylltun
Based on some of my own code and code shared by Chipp Walters, I put 
together a font dialog that removes unicode fonts from the list, and 
then represents each font in it's own font in the list.


Uploaded to the "user spaces" as "Stack:  fontDialogBasic" and "Title: 
Basic font dialog example"


If you have problems using the "user spaces", download from here:
http://www.paraboliclogic.com/misc/fontDialogBasic.rev

Thanks Chipp for code that started this.  :-)

-Garrett
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Re: importing list

2006-03-08 Thread Alex Tweedly

Devin Asay wrote:


Liam,

If I understand correctly, your files contain lists like the one in  
your message, which repeat over and over in a single file. So one  
file might have many "records".


This is how I'd approach it:

  repeat for each line tLine in tCurrRecord
put item 2 of tLine into fld (item 1 of tLine)
  end repeat


You could make that

put item 2 to -1 of tLine into fld (item 1 of tLine)

just in case there might be a ":" within the rest of the line.

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Re: Unicode Font List (Was Re: Revolution vs Visual Basic)

2006-03-08 Thread Richard Gaskin

Devin Asay wrote:
Okay, this is the FINAL final version. I've been programming in 
Revolution for almost five years, and today is the first time I've 
noticed the fontLanguage function. I love this language!


on mouseUp
  put empty into fld "fontList"
  put the fontNames into fNames
  sort lines of fNames by word 1 of each
  put fnames
  repeat for each line tLine in fNames
put uniencode(tLine,the fontlanguage of tLine) & 
uniencode(cr,"ANSI") after fld "fontList"

  end repeat
  delete char -2 to -1 of fld "fontList"
  set the textFont of line 1 to -1 of fld "fontList" to the textFont of 
fld "fontList","Unicode"

  set the scroll of fld "fontList" to 0
end mouseUp



Good work.  Now what do we do to get a Font menu to display the font 
names correctly?


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Re: Changing the screen resolution...

2006-03-08 Thread Ken Ray
On 3/8/06 8:05 PM, "Sarah Reichelt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Is there a way so that I can change the resolution of the screen using a
>> script in metacard itself.?
> 
> On Mac OS X, you can use the cscreen shell command. I don't know if
> there is an equivalent for Windows or Linux.

Actually this is something that I have in my Scripter's Scrapbook (not Linux
though):

Mac OS 9
--
Using Jon's Commands to change screen resolutions in OS 9:
http://osaxen.com/files/jonscommands2.1.2.html

Mac OS X
---
The place to download 'cscript', a command-line utility for OS X that can
retrieve info about screens and to change their properties (including
reolution):
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/mac/19753

or to directly download 'cscript':
http://www.pyehouse.com/lynn/cscreen.dmg

Windows
--
You can use one of three third-party command line executables ("MultiRes",
"Resolution Changer", or "VidRes"):
http://www.entechtaiwan.com/files/multires.exe
http://www.myitforum.com/inc/upload/1365Vidchng.zip
http://www.jddesign.co.uk/

(For more information, see
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/microsoft.public.windows.server.scripting/m
sg/423d3f435989d049)

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Re: Stack on a server

2006-03-08 Thread Marty Knapp
The data would be static (periodically changed only by me) so that's not 
a concern. I've thought of just putting the data in a text file, but 
wonder about security (don't know enough about it to know if that's a 
real concern).


Marty

Bill Vlahos wrote:
Yes, but you don't want them to. Since there is no record/file locking 
you could have multiple people making changes at the same time and 
whoever makes it last wins.


If the stack doesn't change then you could do it but that isn't a very 
elegant way to have it work. If you want multi-user access you will 
need to account for it in your stack or use some sort of data base on 
the server.

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question on setRegistry for setting document associations

2006-03-08 Thread Terry Judd
Is there any reason not to check for a registry entry and then set a 
document association if necessary each time a Windows application is 
launched? The reason I ask is that I'd like to avoid having to use an 
installer for this particular app  if possible (at least during 
testing).


Cheers,

Terry...

Dr Terry Judd
Lecturer in Educational Technology (Design)
Biomedical Multimedia Unit
Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry & Health Sciences
The University of Melbourne
Parkville VIC 3052
AUSTRALIA

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document icon problems on OSX

2006-03-08 Thread Terry Judd
Not sure whether there is something peculiar with my particular Mac but 
I don't seem to be able to get the correct icon showing on documents 
created by my standalone (I'm using a custom creator code but sticking 
with the RSTK filetype). No matter whether I assign a custom document 
icon via the standalone builder or not my documents invariably appear 
with the Rev application icon. I've checked the contents of the app 
package and the correct icon seems to be in place (RevolutionDoc.icns) 
but still no go. (OS 10.3.9, Rev 2.6/2.7)


Any ideas?

Cheers,

Terry...

Dr Terry Judd
Lecturer in Educational Technology (Design)
Biomedical Multimedia Unit
Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry & Health Sciences
The University of Melbourne
Parkville VIC 3052
AUSTRALIA

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Re: Changing the screen resolution...

2006-03-08 Thread Sarah Reichelt
 > Is there a way so that I can change the resolution of the screen using a
> script in metacard itself.?

On Mac OS X, you can use the cscreen shell command. I don't know if
there is an equivalent for Windows or Linux.

Chers,
Saarah
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Re: Stack on a server

2006-03-08 Thread Devin Asay

On Mar 8, 2006, at 6:44 PM, Marty Knapp wrote:

Can multiple people simultaneously access data from a Rev stack on  
a server (from a standalone)? Is there a recommended method of  
doing so?


Marty,

I do this all the time in our Mac labs. I've never seen a problem,  
and all I do is put the stacks (or even standalones) on a server and  
create an alias to it on the workstation. The stacks themselves are  
read-only, and if I need to save data I write to text files or a  
database. As far as I know it works for Windows workstations, too,  
but my experience there is much more limited.


Devin

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Re: Stack on a server

2006-03-08 Thread Bill Vlahos
Yes, but you don't want them to. Since there is no record/file  
locking you could have multiple people making changes at the same  
time and whoever makes it last wins.


If the stack doesn't change then you could do it but that isn't a  
very elegant way to have it work. If you want multi-user access you  
will need to account for it in your stack or use some sort of data  
base on the server.


Bill Vlahos

On Mar 8, 2006, at 5:44 PM, Marty Knapp wrote:

Can multiple people simultaneously access data from a Rev stack on  
a server (from a standalone)? Is there a recommended method of  
doing so?


Thanks,

Marty Knapp
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Stack on a server

2006-03-08 Thread Marty Knapp
Can multiple people simultaneously access data from a Rev stack on a 
server (from a standalone)? Is there a recommended method of doing so?


Thanks,

Marty Knapp
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Re: Revolution vs Visual Basic

2006-03-08 Thread Bob Warren

Haitham wrote:

>Question (6):

>When we want to produce the program (or application) that is created by
>Revolution, we can produce it as EXE file (in windows). But what if we 
>need to make some kind of Installation or Setup? Can we do it?


>What about if the users want to uninstall our program (or software)? 
>Can they?


--
For a demo INNO setup of a Rev standalone, navigate to:-

http://www.howsoft.com/runrev/downloads/

- and download the file:

Picture Chooser Widget for Windows XP or 2000_setup.exe

It includes an uninstall.

Cheers,
Bob Warren

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Re: Unicode Font List (Was Re: Revolution vs Visual Basic)

2006-03-08 Thread Devin Asay
Okay, this is the FINAL final version. I've been programming in  
Revolution for almost five years, and today is the first time I've  
noticed the fontLanguage function. I love this language!


on mouseUp
  put empty into fld "fontList"
  put the fontNames into fNames
  sort lines of fNames by word 1 of each
  put fnames
  repeat for each line tLine in fNames
put uniencode(tLine,the fontlanguage of tLine) & uniencode 
(cr,"ANSI") after fld "fontList"

  end repeat
  delete char -2 to -1 of fld "fontList"
  set the textFont of line 1 to -1 of fld "fontList" to the textFont  
of fld "fontList","Unicode"

  set the scroll of fld "fontList" to 0
end mouseUp

I promise I'm done now.

Devin

On Mar 8, 2006, at 5:09 PM, Devin Asay wrote:

I'm in obsessive mode with unicode. Here's the new and improved  
version:


on mouseUp
  put empty into fld "fontList"
  put the fontNames into fNames
  sort lines of fNames by word 1 of each
  put fnames
  repeat for each line tLine in fNames
if char 1 of tLine is "#" then
  put uniencode(tLine,"Korean") & uniencode(cr,"ANSI") after  
fld "fontList"

else
  put uniencode(tLine,"Japanese") & uniencode(cr,"ANSI") after  
fld "fontList"

end if
  end repeat
  delete char -2 to -1 of fld "fontList"
  set the textFont of line 1 to -1 of fld "fontList" to the  
textFont of fld "fontList","Japanese"

  set the scroll of fld "fontList" to 0
end mouseUp




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Re: Unicode Font List (Was Re: Revolution vs Visual Basic)

2006-03-08 Thread Devin Asay


On Mar 8, 2006, at 5:17 PM, Garrett Hylltun wrote:

But isn't it just easier to filter out the unicode fonts and just  
list the ANSI fonts like I did in my original post?


I'm just not sure of the need to actually list the unicode fonts,  
unless you're providing support in a program for these languages.


You're probably right, although support for unicode fonts in Rev  
fields is free, since Rev just leverages the OS's unicode  
capabilities. Besides, rendering the font names in unicode was a  
challenge that had taken on a life of its own. It had to be beaten. ;-)


Now I can go back to whatever productive work I was doing before.

Devin

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Re: Unicode Font List (Was Re: Revolution vs Visual Basic)

2006-03-08 Thread Garrett Hylltun
But isn't it just easier to filter out the unicode fonts and just list 
the ANSI fonts like I did in my original post?


I'm just not sure of the need to actually list the unicode fonts, unless 
you're providing support in a program for these languages.


-Garrett

Devin Asay wrote:

I'm in obsessive mode with unicode. Here's the new and improved version:

on mouseUp
  put empty into fld "fontList"
  put the fontNames into fNames
  sort lines of fNames by word 1 of each
  put fnames
  repeat for each line tLine in fNames
if char 1 of tLine is "#" then
  put uniencode(tLine,"Korean") & uniencode(cr,"ANSI") after fld 
"fontList"

else
  put uniencode(tLine,"Japanese") & uniencode(cr,"ANSI") after fld 
"fontList"

end if
  end repeat
  delete char -2 to -1 of fld "fontList"
  set the textFont of line 1 to -1 of fld "fontList" to the textFont of 
fld "fontList","Japanese"

  set the scroll of fld "fontList" to 0
end mouseUp

There still may be some problems, but since I can't read Chinese or 
Japanese, I have to trust that those font names came out properly.


On Mar 8, 2006, at 3:26 PM, Devin Asay wrote:


on mouseUp
  put empty into fld "fontList"
  repeat with i = 1 to number of lines in the fontNames
put uniencode(line i of the fontNames,"Japanese") & 
uniencode(cr,"ANSI") after fld "fontList"

  end repeat
  set the textFont of line 1 to -1 of fld "fontList" to the textFont 
of fld "fontList","Japanese"

end mouseUp

This gets it *mostly* right, I think.


Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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Building for Linux in 2.7

2006-03-08 Thread Benjamin Bacon

Hi,

I just purchased 2.7 and I was wondering if and when (if anyone  
knows) it will be able to build for Linux.


Thanks!
Benjamin
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Unicode Font List (Was Re: Revolution vs Visual Basic)

2006-03-08 Thread Devin Asay

I'm in obsessive mode with unicode. Here's the new and improved version:

on mouseUp
  put empty into fld "fontList"
  put the fontNames into fNames
  sort lines of fNames by word 1 of each
  put fnames
  repeat for each line tLine in fNames
if char 1 of tLine is "#" then
  put uniencode(tLine,"Korean") & uniencode(cr,"ANSI") after fld  
"fontList"

else
  put uniencode(tLine,"Japanese") & uniencode(cr,"ANSI") after  
fld "fontList"

end if
  end repeat
  delete char -2 to -1 of fld "fontList"
  set the textFont of line 1 to -1 of fld "fontList" to the textFont  
of fld "fontList","Japanese"

  set the scroll of fld "fontList" to 0
end mouseUp

There still may be some problems, but since I can't read Chinese or  
Japanese, I have to trust that those font names came out properly.


On Mar 8, 2006, at 3:26 PM, Devin Asay wrote:


on mouseUp
  put empty into fld "fontList"
  repeat with i = 1 to number of lines in the fontNames
put uniencode(line i of the fontNames,"Japanese") & uniencode 
(cr,"ANSI") after fld "fontList"

  end repeat
  set the textFont of line 1 to -1 of fld "fontList" to the  
textFont of fld "fontList","Japanese"

end mouseUp

This gets it *mostly* right, I think.


Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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More on Media -- the backdrop

2006-03-08 Thread Timothy Miller

Peter wrote:



I'm not sure if the Rev Media IDE will have the backdrop on by 
default, or if it is just the player that will have the backdrop.



Well, if just the player has a mandatory black backdrop, that's no 
big deal and it might be a good thing, I suppose.


I had gotten the impression from other messages that the black 
backdrop will be mandatory for Media itself, not just the player.


Actually, this page seems to indicate the black backdrop will always 
be turned on in Media:  http://www.runrev.com/section/platform.php 
I hope not, though.


I've been trying to use my Dreamcard stacks with the black backdrop 
turned on all the time for a few days, as a preview. It's not a 
nightmare to have it turned on. Maybe some users will prefer it. But 
it's a little inconvenient for me -- just enough to be user hostile 
if it can't be turned off. I can't see any good reason to make it 
mandatory.


Removal of database access for Dreamcard is incentive enough for many 
former Dreamcard users to move up to Studio. The backdrop is just 
inconvenient enough to be user-unfriendly, but not a good reason, by 
itself, to upgrade to Studio. Worst of both worlds...




Tim
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importing list

2006-03-08 Thread liamlambert

Devin
Thanks This is part of what I Wanted to do
The rest was filtering out data which I have working
Thank You.
Liam Lambert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
IRELAND


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Re: Revolution vs Visual Basic

2006-03-08 Thread Devin Asay


On Mar 8, 2006, at 12:35 PM, Garrett Hylltun wrote:





I would end up with font names that I believe are in unicode  
characters and did not display well in Rev.  And I do not know how  
to resolve that at this time  :-(


Example:

Geneva CE
Monaco CE
Times CE
Helvetica CE
Courier CE
ÉqÉâÉMÉmäpÉS Pro W6
ÉqÉâÉMÉmäpÉS Pro W3
ÉqÉâÉMÉmä€ÉS Pro W4
ÉqÉâÉMÉmñæí© Pro W6
ÉqÉâÉMÉmñæí© Pro W3
ª™Œƒœ???
ÉqÉâÉMÉmäpÉS Std W8
Geeza Pro Bold
Lucida Grande CE

Lines 6 through 12 show as characters above the 159 character range  
and are not readable on my English setup here.  I assume that the  
fonts on those lines are unicode.


Try this, Garrett:

on mouseUp
  put empty into fld "fontList"
  repeat with i = 1 to number of lines in the fontNames
put uniencode(line i of the fontNames,"Japanese") & uniencode 
(cr,"ANSI") after fld "fontList"

  end repeat
  set the textFont of line 1 to -1 of fld "fontList" to the textFont  
of fld "fontList","Japanese"

end mouseUp

This gets it *mostly* right, I think.

Devin


Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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Font Dialog Box (was: Revolution vs Visual Basic)

2006-03-08 Thread Chipp Walters

Haitham (and others):

While there is not Font Dialog Box, it took me only 5 minutes to create one.

You can too. It's easy.

Create a stack called "fontTest", then create a subStack called 
"answerFont". Stack "answerFont" will be the dialog box. Stack 
"fontTest" is the stack from which it will be called.


Create a  button named "Pick a Font" on stack "fontTest" and set the 
script of it to:


on mouseUp

  --> LOADS 'answerFont' INTO MEMORY
  start using stack "answerFont"

  --> CALLS THE answerFont FUNCTION FROM STACK "answerFont"
  put answerFont() into tFont

  --> UNLOADS STACK "answerFont"
  stop using stack "answerFont"

  --> CHECKS TO SEE IF A FONT WAS RETURNED
  if tFont is "" then exit to top

  --> DISPLAY THE FONT RETURNED
  answer tFont
end mouseUp

Then on the "answerFont" substack, add a single list field named 
"theFonts" and a "Cancel" and "OK" button.


Script of Cancel Button:

on mouseUp
  set the dialogData to ""
  close this stack
end mouseUp

Script of OK button:

on mouseUp
  put the hilitedLines of fld "theFonts" into tLineNum
  if tLineNum is empty then
beep
answer information "Please choose a font!"
exit mouseUp
  end if
  set the dialogData to line tLineNum of fld "theFonts"
  close this stack
end mouseUp

Script of the "answerFont" stack:

function answerFont
  modal stack "answerFont"
  return the dialogData
end answerFont

on openStack
  put the fontNames into tFontList
  sort tFontList
  put tFontList into fld "theFonts"
end openStack

That's all there is to it! And that's why it's not necessary to have a 
Font Dialog Box as it can be created in just a few minutes! :-)


This font dialog box is very portable and can be used in any project. 
All you have to do is copy the subStack "answerFont" to your mainStack 
and then insert the following code whenever you want your user to choose 
a font (for instance a choose font button):


on mouseUp
  start using stack "answerFont"
  put answerFont() into tFont
  stop using stack "answerFont"

  --> DO SOMETHING WITH tFont HERE
end mouseUp

-Chipp


Haitham Abdulla wrote:



VB .NET has some great built-in components and I want to ask whether
Revolution has them. Some of those components are:

a.  Font Dialog Box

b. Color Dialog Box

c. Save Dialog Box

d. Print Dialog Box



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Re: My DreamCard doesn't start

2006-03-08 Thread J. Landman Gay

Takaaki Furukawa wrote:
My DreamCard 2.5 for Mac OS X doesn't start. The dock icon bounces for a 
couple of times
when I click it, but it quits without warning. I deleted the Pref file 
but no effect.

What should I do?


Did you move it from its default location? It sounds like some of the 
support files aren't available. If you moved it, put it back. If not, 
try reinstalling.


--
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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Re: importing list

2006-03-08 Thread Devin Asay

Liam,

If I understand correctly, your files contain lists like the one in  
your message, which repeat over and over in a single file. So one  
file might have many "records".


This is how I'd approach it:

Create a stack with just one card, a "template" with all the proper  
fields.


repeat
  put url ("file:/Path/To/Your/File.txt") into rawData
  put lineOffset("Name:",rawData) into recStart
  if recStart = 0 then exit repeat
  put lineOffset("Type:",rawData) into recEnd
  put line recStart to recEnd of rawData into tCurrRecord
  delete line recStart to recEnd of rawData
  replace cr&cr with cr in tCurrRecord -- get rid of empty lines
  copy card "template" to this stack --create a new card for the data
  go last card
  set the itemDelimiter to ":"
  repeat for each line tLine in tCurrRecord
put item 2 of tLine into fld (item 1 of tLine)
  end repeat
end repeat

This is untested but should be mostly right.

Devin

On Mar 8, 2006, at 11:14 AM, liamlambert wrote:

I have a large amount of plane text files that are laid out like  
this Below



Name:

Roll Number:

Address:

Principal/Director:

Phone:

Fax:

Email:

Website:

Female Enrolment:

Male Enrolment:

Type: Primary

I want to import the info that is after the  colon into fields of  
the same name as the list above the list repeats name roll number ect

Liam Lambert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
IRELAND


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No OpenStack ..... ! Now Ending !

2006-03-08 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon

Hi Rob,

Thanks for the clarifications. I will zip my files now before
transferring, although I would love to know WHY this solves
problems.

One more small point. When I drop my files onto (would
you believe it ?) a Lexar JumpDrive, and move to the PC,
I find that I have twice the files I thought. I get the same
number of Alias ? files, equivalent to the files I copied.
How do I remove this problem ?

Bets from Paris

-Francis

"Nothing should ever be done for the first time !"


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Re: filter list

2006-03-08 Thread Jim Ault
I guess I don't understand your explanation well enough.
You could do

replace "Name:" with cr in myHtml
putting every name field on  a new line and the rest in tab columns..

This should work for multiple occurrences in one doc.

Just not sure what you need.

Jim Ault


On 3/8/06 12:26 PM, "liamlambert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> That puts one cr after all the entries  there are many entries
> I have a large amount of plane text files that are laid out like this
> Below If the list below is one entry there are 100's of entries
> 
> 
> Name:
> 
> Roll Number:
> 
> Address:
> 
> Principal/Director:
> 
> Phone:
> 
> Fax:
> 
> Email:
> 
> Website:
> 
> Female Enrolment:
> 
> Male Enrolment:
> 
> Type: Primary
> 
> Liam Lambert
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> IRELAND
> 
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Re: 2.7 bugs

2006-03-08 Thread simplsol

Dan,
I use OS X and agree with David. New users should start with 2.6.x and 
wait while 2.7 matures.
Version 2.6.1 was the best all-around release of Rev in the last three 
years. "In my experience" 2.7 was one of the worst.
The missing documentation chapters, crashes when accessing the Table 
panel on the Inspector, etc. etc.  affect all platforms. The automatic 
changing of creator codes and file types affect OS X users (especially 
the changing of creator codes which are not an issue on Windows or 
UNIX). Changing the appearance of previously created stacks from OS X 
to OS 9 may or may not be exclusively an OS X problem.
2.7 promises to be very good when it is ready. I don't believe it is 
ready yet.

Paul Looney
PS Remember the last meeting in Monterey when we asked for two updates 
that did nothing but fix bugs? That seems, in hindsight, to have been a 
very good suggestion. 2.6.8 could have been awesome!


-Original Message-
From: Dan Shafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: How to use Revolution 
Sent: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 10:43:21 -0800
Subject: Re: 2.7 bugs

  David.

Your remark is a *little* off the mark, I think and I'd hate to see it 
left
lying around without comment for newbies and investigators to stumble 
over.


First, as far as I can tell from reading this list and other 
conversations,
the problems with 2.7 are almost exclusively with the Windows version 
of the

IDE. OS X works pretty nearly flawlessly (allowing for the fact that all
software has bugs) and apps built in it for delivery on Windows also 
work

fine.

Second, the problems with 2.7 are apparently confined to some specific 
areas
of functionality, so that there have been many reports of folks using 
2.7 on

Windows without serious problems as well.

So a fairer statement might be, "Enough people, including me, have found
enough bugs in 2.7 for Windows that we've stopped using it and reverted 
to

2.6.1 until a more stable release is issued."

:-)

On 3/8/06, David Burgun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi,

If I were you I'd see if you can get ahold of a 2.6.6 version of
RunRev. 2.7 is so buggy that I have stopped using it until a new
version is released.

All the Best
Dave

On 26 Feb 2006, at 09:21, Andy wrote:

> Anyone else here bought 2.7 and can't get it to register? Mine just
> takes
> the key, runs then on next launching says "you've got 28 days left".
>
> I've emailed support, but as I'm completely new to Rev, I thought
> I'd ask in
> case I was missing something obvious.
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filter list

2006-03-08 Thread liamlambert

That puts one cr after all the entries  there are many entries
I have a large amount of plane text files that are laid out like this
Below If the list below is one entry there are 100's of entries


Name:

Roll Number:

Address:

Principal/Director:

Phone:

Fax:

Email:

Website:

Female Enrolment:

Male Enrolment:

Type: Primary

Liam Lambert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
IRELAND


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File/Picture Chooser Widgets for Ubuntu Linux and Windows XP/2000 - SOURCE STACKS AVAILABLE

2006-03-08 Thread Bob Warren

Dear All,

As promised, I have made available the Windows XP/2000 and Ubuntu Linux 
source stacks for my File/Picture Chooser Widgets (#1). They can be 
downloaded from


http://www.howsoft.com/runrev/stacks.htm

Since I do not have enough machines for the development and testing of 
these widgets in other flavours of Linux and Macintosh, I am offering 
these stacks so that you can adapt them yourself, if you so wish.


At the webpage above, you will read this, among other tips:

"Conversion to other flavours of Linux should be simple, and can be done 
directly from the Linux stacks provided.


Conversion to Macintosh might not be quite so straightforward, since 
named multiple drives are possible. For this reason, the Windows stacks 
have also been provided. Together with the Linux stacks, and some slight 
changes in layout, the development of widgets for Mac would be a 
combined solution."


Of course, these widgets are potentially useful in other respects since 
they contain HD treeviews that can be isolated and re-employed.


Best regards,
Bob Warren

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Re: filter list

2006-03-08 Thread Jim Ault
set the htmlText of field "Text" to myHTML & cr

On 3/8/06 11:51 AM, "liamlambert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I find my self answering my own question  here
> I thought I would remove what I did not need and replace with a tab
> so I could
> use it in a dataBase this works but how do I put a return after the
> last entry
> 
> on mouseUp
>FilterText
> end mouseUp
> 
> on FilterText
>put the htmlText of field "Text" into myHTML
>replace "" with empty in myHTML
>replace "" with empty in myHTML
>replace "Name:" with tab in myHtml
>replace "Roll Number:" with tab in myHtml
>replace "Address:" with tab in myHtml
>replace "Principal/Director:" with tab in myHtml
>replace "Phone:" with tab in myHtml
>replace "Fax:" with tab in myHtml
>replace "Email:" with tab in myHtml
>replace "Website:" with tab in myHtml
>replace "Female Enrolment:" with tab in myHtml
>replace "Male Enrolment:" with tab in myHtml
>replace "Type:" with tab in myHtml
>   set the htmlText of field "Text" to myHTML
> end FilterText
> 
> Liam Lambert
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> IRELAND
> 
> 


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filter list

2006-03-08 Thread liamlambert

I find my self answering my own question  here
I thought I would remove what I did not need and replace with a tab  
so I could
use it in a dataBase this works but how do I put a return after the  
last entry


on mouseUp
  FilterText
end mouseUp

on FilterText
  put the htmlText of field "Text" into myHTML
  replace "" with empty in myHTML
  replace "" with empty in myHTML
  replace "Name:" with tab in myHtml
  replace "Roll Number:" with tab in myHtml
  replace "Address:" with tab in myHtml
  replace "Principal/Director:" with tab in myHtml
  replace "Phone:" with tab in myHtml
  replace "Fax:" with tab in myHtml
  replace "Email:" with tab in myHtml
  replace "Website:" with tab in myHtml
  replace "Female Enrolment:" with tab in myHtml
  replace "Male Enrolment:" with tab in myHtml
  replace "Type:" with tab in myHtml
 set the htmlText of field "Text" to myHTML
end FilterText

Liam Lambert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
IRELAND


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Re: Best source for examples

2006-03-08 Thread Jim Ault
On 3/8/06 8:18 AM, "Andy Calloway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks for all the info, I've been going through the help files over the
> past few days, but I think I need to put a few hours to one side to really
> get to grips with it.

 Andy,

Two components I would recommend that you use to view example stacks...
Application Browser... in the Tools menu
Find & Replace... in the Edit menu

Application Browser
It will show you all the components and right click should lead you to many
discoveries of the structure and scripting used by experts and teachers
alike.  Pay particular attention to groups (confusing at first but worth
it).
Whenever I want to discover 'how they did that', I use this tool.


Also, use Find and Replace in the Edit menu
Note the drop down menu choices and the check boxes that let you
search  globals and 'custom' [properties]

Doing several kinds of Find operations will show you many examples of
Revolution terminology.  Note the fly-over text that explains more about the
check box. Hint: double clicking the found item in the list will open the
script container for you.

If you are a puzzle solver.. Rev is an amazing sandbox!!

Jim Ault
Las Vegas


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Re: Revolution vs Visual Basic

2006-03-08 Thread Mikey
> A lot of what you are looking for in Rev isn't built in but as others have
> shown in their answers here, creating the functionality in Rev is close to
> trivial. But the programming paradigm in Revolution with its Transcript
> xTalk language is so substantially different from the approaches taken by VB
> that twisting your head around it may prove challenging. That challenge is
> definitely worthwhile if you plan to create cross-platform software but if
> you don't, I'm not sure it's worth it.

I would tend to agree with and disagree with this statement at the
same time.  On the one hand, one of the things that is really great
about all of the HC derrivatives is that you have access to, and can
change, almost anything you want at any time.  It makes customizing
the environment or adding onto it easy, and dare I say, fun.

I would disagree with the statement aht the language is so different
that wrapping your head around it can be challenging, and might not be
worth it.  The advantage that Transcript and all xTalk languages have
is that the paradigm is really trivial BECAUSE it is so different than
most modern languages - it is, IMHO, more natural, and therefore
easier to learn.  The language itself is conversational, so the syntax
is very similar to English grammar, the vocabulary is nearly obvious
set the color of me to blue
get the rect of me
put item 3 of theList into address

Revolution's grandfather, HyperCard made the task of building
prototypes a trivial enterprise.  Revolution is also easy to use to
build prototypes.  The overhead that is usually associated with
building a project is for the most part abssent.  You don't have to
cast and instantiate anything.  Types are context-implied (see my
previous example).  In short it is REALLY easy to build something
quickly.

Transcript's ability to parse strings (and make the code required to
parse strings) means that one of the most onerous tasks in computing
is very easy to achieve with minimal effort.  In development studies,
the two most common problems that programmers face are parsing and
communication (either between projects, devices, or programs).  All of
these functions are straghtforward and simple.

I would rate Revolution's learning curve (to the point where you can
be productive) as low-medium.  Once you understand things like
"inheritence path" and the basic grammar you should be able to pick up
RR in no time.
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On the second day, God created the oceans.
On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours,
   and did a little diving.
And God said, "This is good."
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[ANN] Stock Portfolio 2 - built with Revolution

2006-03-08 Thread Karen
Curlypaws Software is pleased to announce version 2 of Stock  
Portfolio, which brings a number of improvements:


* More robust storage mechanism (the program now uses a database to  
store your stock list and portfolio details)

* Improved appearance (the program now has a new graphical appearance)
* Better usability (the graph and summary information are now easily  
to hand, rather than in a separate window)
* Better graphing (there is now a choice between a logarithmic graph  
as well as the previous linear one)
* More information (there is a percentage change shown on the  
portfolio window)
* Better reports (the reports are now more attractive and show more  
information)
* Allows entry of both UK and US versions of a stock (e.g. VOD and  
VOD.L)


You can import your data from version 1 of Stock Portfolio using the  
File/Import menu option.  You should import both your stock list  
(using the Import option on that window) and your portfolio list  
(using the import option on that window).  The import option will  
avoid setting up duplicates.


The program can be downloaded at:

http://www.curlypaws.com/stockportfolio/StockPortfolio2.dmg

The Stock Portfolio 2 program is copyright of Curlypaws Ltd. 2006.
Portions (c)2000-2006 Runtime Revolution Limited, All Rights Reserved  
Worldwide.


Stock Portfolio 2 was built using the following tools:

Runtime Revolution  http://www.runrev.com/
altSQLite3  http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/altSQLiteCover/
InterfaceDesigner   http://www.altuit.com/
Constellation   http://daniels-mara.com/products/constellation.htm
Quartam Reports http://www.quartam.com/
Icon People http://www.iconpeople.com/

Thanks are due to the Revolution Mailing List contributors, without  
whom none of this would be possible.

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Re: Revolution vs Visual Basic

2006-03-08 Thread Garrett Hylltun

Ken Ray wrote:

[snip]


Just curious... any particular reason you need just the ANSI font names if
the list of fonts returned by fontNames() is what's installed in the
computer?

If not, then it's even easier:

  put fontNames() into varFontMenuBuild
  sort lines of varFontMenuBuild


I would end up with font names that I believe are in unicode characters 
and did not display well in Rev.  And I do not know how to resolve that 
at this time  :-(


Example:

Geneva CE
Monaco CE
Times CE
Helvetica CE
Courier CE
ÉqÉâÉMÉmäpÉS Pro W6
ÉqÉâÉMÉmäpÉS Pro W3
ÉqÉâÉMÉmä€ÉS Pro W4
ÉqÉâÉMÉmñæí© Pro W6
ÉqÉâÉMÉmñæí© Pro W3
ª™Œƒœ???
ÉqÉâÉMÉmäpÉS Std W8
Geeza Pro Bold
Lucida Grande CE

Lines 6 through 12 show as characters above the 159 character range and 
are not readable on my English setup here.  I assume that the fonts on 
those lines are unicode.


-Garrett
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Re: runrev for CRM

2006-03-08 Thread Thom Wright
Sorry for the confusion,  looking for a customer relationship management 
program kind of like ACT goldmine, now up to date, daylite, etc.  but it 
doesn't need to manage sales and billable accounts.   want something to manage 
specifics, appt dates,
link to word files, give a history of activities. be customizeable.

would something like that be doable.  

thanks for your time,


Thom Wright
School Counselor
Jefferson Middle School

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Dictionary in OS X

2006-03-08 Thread Gregory Lypny

Hello everyone,

I had read somewhere that it is possible to access some built-in Mac  
applications, such as Dictionary, directly from the command line.   
Now I was wondering whether it would also be possible to access those  
applications through Revolution.  I'm doing research that involves  
indexing all the words in big text files.  Of course, using the xTalk  
definition of a word as any quoted string or string separated by one  
or more spaces leaves me with many words that are not words we use in  
the sense of dictionary words, things like acronyms, and others that  
aren't relevant to me because they are proper nouns, such as company  
or product names.  So I was hoping to write a script that might check  
whether each of the words in my index exists in the dictionary.


Any thoughts would be most appreciated.

Gregory
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Re: Revolution vs Visual Basic

2006-03-08 Thread Andre Garzia

Haltham,

another nice features of Rev that I don't find in the standard  
computer languages out there are:


* Avoid the write-compile-debug cycle. Your stack is always ready,  
your code too. Just change the tool and interact with it. If it  
explodes, change the tool and fix it. This might appear silly at  
first glance but this is one huge time saver. Using tradicional  
languages you might end up building tons of buggy standalones as you  
debug your app. With Rev things are just more productive. For  
example, Rob had this huge 90mb stack that took some minutes to  
build. If he had to build it everytime he wanted to test something,  
he'd end up loosing time...


* Its easy to create custom tools to help you code. As you get more  
used to us and this list, you'll see that many developers end up  
building their own palletes and environment to suit their tastes.  
It's not like ActiveX and VCL controls of windows. It's like simple  
tools built with Rev to help you work the way you want to work. Scott  
Rossi for example built some very nice alignment, gradient and color  
tools to suit his taste. I have my own set of network tools. I never  
saw VB developers building such tools as easy as we do here.


* Revolution is fun and powerfull. Revolution has some 'new' concepts  
that tradicional coders might need to learn such as how stack works,  
the message path, all about custom properties and other features. But  
those features enable you to create very powerfull tools very fast.  
The stacks being able to load and use other stacks across networks  
make it very easy to share code and to work in groups, it also enable  
you to create auto-update tools very easily. The message path that  
allows you to dispatch and listen to messages making your code flow  
in ways that C/C++ coders can't do and Custom Properties, your cool  
way to store all kinds of things. I've seen pdfs, fonts, all packed  
inside little props of buttons ready to being unpacked as needed or  
copied to other stacks, it's not like other languages containers.  
Custom Props are a way to tune an object to your tastes and allied to  
the message path system allows you to build beautiful softwares that  
are really easy to understand and mantain (which is always productive  
wise).


* Oh, did we talked about cross platform yet? :-)

Cheers and welcome
Andre

On Mar 8, 2006, at 3:56 PM, Dan Shafer wrote:


Haltham.

(Keep in mind as you read this that although I'm a language junkie  
and I've
done a bit of work in VB, though not recently, I'm really a Mac guy  
so some
other Windows developers here may very well declare me to be all  
wet. I

would bow to their judgement.)

Revolution's largest claim to fame is clearly that it allows the  
creation of
cross-platform standlone applications from a single development  
platform. If
that's an important factor for you, then obviously VB variants  
aren't going
to be the answer because you cannot create OS X or Linux/Unix apps  
from it.

If, however, you are purely a Windows developer and if you're already
steeped in VB syntax, methodologies and architecture, then my guess is
you'll find yourself well-served in the long run by staying with VB.

A lot of what you are looking for in Rev isn't built in but as  
others have
shown in their answers here, creating the functionality in Rev is  
close to
trivial. But the programming paradigm in Revolution with its  
Transcript
xTalk language is so substantially different from the approaches  
taken by VB
that twisting your head around it may prove challenging. That  
challenge is
definitely worthwhile if you plan to create cross-platform software  
but if

you don't, I'm not sure it's worth it.


--
~~
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http://www.shafermedia.com
Get my book, "Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought"

From http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html

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Re: Revolution vs Visual Basic

2006-03-08 Thread Stephen Barncard
On the other hand, many of us here have toiled with other languages 
for years, but found Transcript the most natural of all - you can 
literally 'think' the routines and write them.


At 10:56 -0800 3/8/06, Dan Shafer wrote:


Haltham.
that twisting your head around it may prove challenging. That challenge is
definitely worthwhile if you plan to create cross-platform software but if
you don't, I'm not sure it's worth it.



--
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Re: Revolution vs Visual Basic

2006-03-08 Thread Dan Shafer
Haltham.

(Keep in mind as you read this that although I'm a language junkie and I've
done a bit of work in VB, though not recently, I'm really a Mac guy so some
other Windows developers here may very well declare me to be all wet. I
would bow to their judgement.)

Revolution's largest claim to fame is clearly that it allows the creation of
cross-platform standlone applications from a single development platform. If
that's an important factor for you, then obviously VB variants aren't going
to be the answer because you cannot create OS X or Linux/Unix apps from it.
If, however, you are purely a Windows developer and if you're already
steeped in VB syntax, methodologies and architecture, then my guess is
you'll find yourself well-served in the long run by staying with VB.

A lot of what you are looking for in Rev isn't built in but as others have
shown in their answers here, creating the functionality in Rev is close to
trivial. But the programming paradigm in Revolution with its Transcript
xTalk language is so substantially different from the approaches taken by VB
that twisting your head around it may prove challenging. That challenge is
definitely worthwhile if you plan to create cross-platform software but if
you don't, I'm not sure it's worth it.


--
~~
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http://www.shafermedia.com
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Re: Help with Video Capture

2006-03-08 Thread Klaus Major

Hi Richard,


Jack,

To run Firewire video under XP, you need to set the videoMethod  
parameter in the RevInitializeVideoGrabber function to "DirectX".
I don't believe that is listed in the documentation, but it is the  
correct setting. Make sure you have DirectX installed.


"videoMethiod" IS listed in the docs, but reads:
The videoMethod is either "QT" or "VFW".


So the first call needs to be something like:

revInitializeVideoGrabber the short name of this stack,  
"DirectX",the rect of this stack


Thanks for this little gem, will go directly into my archieves!

Don't we just love undocumented features? ;-)


Hope that helps.
Richard Miller
Imprinter Technologies


Regards

Klaus Major
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Re: Revolution vs Visual Basic

2006-03-08 Thread Ken Ray
On 3/8/06 12:28 PM, "Garrett Hylltun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> put fontNames() into varTempPreProcess
> put the number of lines of varTempPreProcess into varTemp
> put 1 into varCounter
> repeat varTemp times
>put line varCounter of varTempPreProcess into varTempFont
>if the fontLanguage of varTempFont is "ANSI" then
>  put varTempFont & return after varFontMenuBuild
>end if
>put varCounter + 1 into varCounter
> end repeat
> sort lines of varFontMenuBuild

This could be shortened thusly:

  put "" into varFontMenuBuild
  repeat for each line varTempFont in fontNames()
if the fontLanguage of varTempFont = "ANSI" then put varTempFont & \
  CR after varFontMenuBuild
  end repeat
  delete char -1 of varFontMenuBuild  -- remove trailing CR
  sort lines of varFontMenuBuild

Just curious... any particular reason you need just the ANSI font names if
the list of fonts returned by fontNames() is what's installed in the
computer?

If not, then it's even easier:

  put fontNames() into varFontMenuBuild
  sort lines of varFontMenuBuild
 

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Newbie adventure game question

2006-03-08 Thread Thomas McGrath III
The short answer: Pipmak uses a 3D type of engine and Revolution is a  
2D linear program.


The long answer: Pipmak does not support heavy interaction from the  
user (just click and turn) and Revolution provides all kinds of  
interaction. Revolution is what you would use to build an application  
with full user interaction and cross platform usage. Now you have a  
couple of choices in getting 3D into Rev a 2D app.
1. Hire someone to write an external for Pipmak 3D for use within  
Rev. (expensive, time consuming)

2. Use existing 3D capable programs that already interact with Rev.
Quicktime, Quicktime VR
	altBrowser (web based 3D should work since AJAX, and Flash) might  
work with other plugins?

3. Use existing 2D capabilities in Rev and fake it.
	Page based movement (old Myst style) don't stick to just four  
directions, why not do eight directions for more movement

Quicktime (image and movies)
	Flat Panorama Images use Rev to scroll left right up and down within  
the image


What Rev gives you in control in my opinion makes up for what it  
lacks in 3D, however I know a lot of people would love 3D  
capabilities in Revolution and would certainly pay for that ability.


HTHs

Tom

On Mar 8, 2006, at 8:36 AM, Liam Shannon wrote:

But, I am still jonesing for the ability to create a 360 degree  
panoramic experience (like the later Myst games) and yet the folks  
at Revolution have informed me that Revolution can only create the  
kind of experience presented in the original Myst - ie. face  
forward, want to look left then click left and dissolve to another  
straight on image of what is on the left. To get beyond this they  
suggest Quicktime VR but I must admit I find Quicktime VR to be  
very jumpy, limited, and somewhat unreal feeling and I would much  
prefer the kind of feeling one gets in the Pipmak demo (http:// 
pipmak.sourceforge.net/downloads.php).


So here (at long last) is the question. Why can't one achieve the  
same effect as Pipmak in Revolution?


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Re: Best source for examples

2006-03-08 Thread Dan Shafer
Andy

Welcome to the Revolution!

At the risk of being accused of shameless self-promotion (OK, it *is*
shameless self-promotion), you might benefit by reading my book,
"REvolution: Software at the Speed of Thought," available through Shafer
Media Store at http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html in both PDF
and printed form.

The other suggestions folks have made here are valuable as well.


On 2/27/06, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Can anyone point me to some resources, examples etc for Rev? I'm new to it
> (i.e. last Friday), and being a PHP programmer, I'm still trying to get my
> head around the concepts!
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Re: Help with Video Capture

2006-03-08 Thread Richard Miller

Jack,

To run Firewire video under XP, you need to set the videoMethod  
parameter in the RevInitializeVideoGrabber function to "DirectX". I  
don't believe that is listed in the documentation, but it is the  
correct setting. Make sure you have DirectX installed.


So the first call needs to be something like:

revInitializeVideoGrabber the short name of this stack, "DirectX",the  
rect of this stack


Hope that helps.
Richard Miller
Imprinter Technologies


On Feb 28, 2006, at 9:59 AM, Braintree Athletics wrote:

I'm running Windows XP, the trial of Rev 2.7, Quicktime 7.0.3, an  
attached Canon camera with Firewire and CANNOT get any video to  
preview or record. In fact, when switching the radio buttons to  
Quicktime and choosing video settings Rev crashes. (Canon works  
with MovieMaker on this computer.)


This is a deal-breaker in terms of whether or not I move from an  
older version of Metacard to Rev. Metacard can't do this and was  
excited to find that Rev was supposed to. Any help, suggestions or  
information will be very much appreciated.


Thanks to all in advance,

Jack Rarick
Braintree Athletic Systems


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Re: 2.7 bugs

2006-03-08 Thread Dan Shafer
David.

Your remark is a *little* off the mark, I think and I'd hate to see it left
lying around without comment for newbies and investigators to stumble over.

First, as far as I can tell from reading this list and other conversations,
the problems with 2.7 are almost exclusively with the Windows version of the
IDE. OS X works pretty nearly flawlessly (allowing for the fact that all
software has bugs) and apps built in it for delivery on Windows also work
fine.

Second, the problems with 2.7 are apparently confined to some specific areas
of functionality, so that there have been many reports of folks using 2.7 on
Windows without serious problems as well.

So a fairer statement might be, "Enough people, including me, have found
enough bugs in 2.7 for Windows that we've stopped using it and reverted to
2.6.1 until a more stable release is issued."

:-)

On 3/8/06, David Burgun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> If I were you I'd see if you can get ahold of a 2.6.6 version of
> RunRev. 2.7 is so buggy that I have stopped using it until a new
> version is released.
>
> All the Best
> Dave
>
> On 26 Feb 2006, at 09:21, Andy wrote:
>
> > Anyone else here bought 2.7 and can't get it to register? Mine just
> > takes
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Re: runrev for CRM

2006-03-08 Thread Dan Shafer
Thom

Not sure exactly what you mean here, so it might help to clarify.

CRM = CUSTOMER (not Contact) relations (not relational) management system
used in business to track interactions with customers, sales, etc.

But you COULD mean a Contact Manager, aka sophisticated address book.

If you clarify that, someone may be able to provide an answer.

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Re: Latest Version of RunRev for Mac OS 9???

2006-03-08 Thread Chris Sheffield

Dave,

You can grab version 2.6.1 from here:




Hopefully that'll get you by.  It is kind of strange they removed the  
download link for the current OS 9 version...


Chris


On Mar 8, 2006, at 11:10 AM, David Burgun wrote:


Hi,

So was the 2.6.6 version promised, however we are still waiting for  
it.



I agree it is important to the educational market (as well as other  
markets) which is why it blows my mind that there is no download  
available for it.


I have no intention of porting my MacOS 9 only stacks to 2.7, it's  
just not worth it, but I would like to be able to download a  
version of RunRev that works on MacOS 9 NOW, regardless of the  
version number!


I really can't see the point of removing a working version of  
RunRev for MacOS 9 from the website and replacing it with nothing!  
Surely it would be better to leave the existing version available  
and then if and when 2.7 comes along replace it then?


In the meantime, here I am twiddling my thumbs waiting for someone  
from RunRev to contact me and send the latest version (which I have  
a license for).


All the Best
Dave

On 8 Mar 2006, at 17:46, Stephen Barncard wrote:

The OS9 version was promised, and I have no doubt they will  
deliver it. It's too  important to the educational market. I heard  
the difficulty is that they have to use a new compiler for OS9. I  
think they don't want a non- version 2.7 out there.




Hi,

I doubt there will be a version 2.7 for MacOS 9 either, the same  
was said about version 2.6.6 and that version didn't materialize.  
Don't understand why version 2.6.1 isn't on their web site tho?


All the Best
Dave

On 7 Mar 2006, at 20:09, Robert Brenstein wrote:

Hi Dave... It's Rev 2.6.1 and you have to ask Heather  
directly.  It's

doubtful that 2.7 or later will get to OS 9... Jim



I hope you are wrong, Jim. And the RR web site states that OS9  
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Re: OT: forum etiquette

2006-03-08 Thread Dan Shafer
I can only say "Amen!"

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Re: answer file with filter problem

2006-03-08 Thread Garrett Hylltun

Klaus Major wrote:

[snip]


your script(s) above will work wonderfully on a windows pc :-)

But since you are using a mac (I guessed from your mail header, please 
do always
mention the platform you are using) you need another syntax -> 
"answer... WITH TYPE ..."


Thank you Klaus.  I was getting all confused in the docs on this.

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Re: OT: what makes a bundle a bundle on OS X?

2006-03-08 Thread Klaus Major

Boa tarde Andre,


Klaus,

from a quick look. Bundles have the "BDNL" file type. Revdb.bundle  
has a "APPL" file type.
revxml has a pkgInfo file with it's bundle file type and no  
creator. revdb.bundle has a info.plist file listing APPL as the  
bundle type... and so on.

They are both bundles, but of a different nature.

If you're looking into creating bundles,


oh no, no chance, I was just curious!

try creating a folder with with a 'Contents' subfolder, inside that  
folder try putting a pkgInfo text file with "BDNL", it might  
work... There are technical docs at the ADC site about bundles  
"About Bundles" 


In this ADC docs, you'll learn all about modern bundle structures  
and where to put each file.


Thank you very much for this explanation, my spanish friend :-D


A bundle is not just a pretty folder™


Just like an application package...


Cheers
andre


Best from gerfew ehmm... germany :-)

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Re: The End of Dreamcard? -- but life after death?

2006-03-08 Thread Dan Shafer
Mikey

You clearly were absent from class the day they distributed the well-known
Kool-Aid of the Priesthood of Programming!

I'm surprised they let you graduate.

:-)

Dan


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Re: Revolution vs Visual Basic

2006-03-08 Thread Garrett Hylltun

Mark Smith wrote:
Haitham, I can't answer anything like all your questions, but I'll have 
a go at what I can:


On 6 Mar 2006, at 06:43, Haitham Abdulla wrote:



Question (2):

VB .NET has some great built-in components and I want to ask whether
Revolution has them. Some of those components are:

a.  Font Dialog Box

   no, but I think something may be available from someone on this list.


The following will at least get a list of ANSI fonts and sort them in 
alphabetical order for you:


put fontNames() into varTempPreProcess
put the number of lines of varTempPreProcess into varTemp
put 1 into varCounter
repeat varTemp times
  put line varCounter of varTempPreProcess into varTempFont
  if the fontLanguage of varTempFont is "ANSI" then
put varTempFont & return after varFontMenuBuild
  end if
  put varCounter + 1 into varCounter
end repeat
sort lines of varFontMenuBuild


the variable "varFontMenuBuild" now holds the sorted list of fonts. 
From there you can either make your own font dialog, or maybe a menu.


There are probably other ways of doing this, but this is what I have. 
I've only been using Rev since late 2005, so I'm not an old pro at it 
yet like so many others here.  ;-)


-Garrett
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Re: Slow Dialogs in Rev 2.7

2006-03-08 Thread J. Landman Gay

Paul Claude wrote:

Yes, is delayed. As I told you, also the Rev. dialogs are slow; as example,
when I close the script editor, it needs several seconds to appears the
"save" dialog. And, if I want to rename some custom property through the
inspector panel, the "ask" dialog appears always after 7/10 seconds.


I am completely puzzled. I don't think anyone else has this problem or 
they would have said so. It must be something about your particular 
system. All I can suggest is to reinstall Revolution.


Sometimes virus checkers interfere and cause slowdowns, but that doesn't 
seem too likely since your other windows open okay.


If you have any custom plugins, try removing them and restarting Rev. 
Also make sure you have no custom frontscripts or backscripts. I hope 
someone else can think of other things to try, because what is happening 
is not normal behavior.


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importing list

2006-03-08 Thread liamlambert
I have a large amount of plane text files that are laid out like this  
Below



Name:

Roll Number:

Address:

Principal/Director:

Phone:

Fax:

Email:

Website:

Female Enrolment:

Male Enrolment:

Type: Primary

I want to import the info that is after the  colon into fields of the  
same name as the list above the list repeats name roll number ect

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Re: Latest Version of RunRev for Mac OS 9???

2006-03-08 Thread David Burgun

Hi,

So was the 2.6.6 version promised, however we are still waiting for it.


I agree it is important to the educational market (as well as other  
markets) which is why it blows my mind that there is no download  
available for it.


I have no intention of porting my MacOS 9 only stacks to 2.7, it's  
just not worth it, but I would like to be able to download a version  
of RunRev that works on MacOS 9 NOW, regardless of the version number!


I really can't see the point of removing a working version of RunRev  
for MacOS 9 from the website and replacing it with nothing! Surely it  
would be better to leave the existing version available and then if  
and when 2.7 comes along replace it then?


In the meantime, here I am twiddling my thumbs waiting for someone  
from RunRev to contact me and send the latest version (which I have a  
license for).


All the Best
Dave

On 8 Mar 2006, at 17:46, Stephen Barncard wrote:

The OS9 version was promised, and I have no doubt they will deliver  
it. It's too  important to the educational market. I heard the  
difficulty is that they have to use a new compiler for OS9. I think  
they don't want a non- version 2.7 out there.




Hi,

I doubt there will be a version 2.7 for MacOS 9 either, the same  
was said about version 2.6.6 and that version didn't materialize.  
Don't understand why version 2.6.1 isn't on their web site tho?


All the Best
Dave

On 7 Mar 2006, at 20:09, Robert Brenstein wrote:

Hi Dave... It's Rev 2.6.1 and you have to ask Heather directly.   
It's

doubtful that 2.7 or later will get to OS 9... Jim



I hope you are wrong, Jim. And the RR web site states that OS9  
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Re: Common Causes of Crashes?

2006-03-08 Thread J. Landman Gay

Stephen Paul McNutt wrote:
I know that causes of "crashes" has been discussed, but I can't find  it 
in the archives.  I've got a stack that started crashing  yesterday, and 
I'd like to know some common causes I can look for in  my scripts.  


One of the most common things is badly formatted images. Did you 
recently import any new images?


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Re: Revolution & MS Word Question

2006-03-08 Thread J. Landman Gay

Dave Hauge wrote:

To whom it may concern,
The application I am thinking of building is a sales order entry app that
will have multiple drop down windows associated with corresponding text
boxes (see attached). Is it possible with the Revolution Studio product to
tie a MS Word "bookmark" to each of the text boxes so within the application
I can click a button and have the app launch MS Word and dump the content of
each of the text boxes into the corresponding bookmark fields in a
pre-formatted Word template (i.e. the Word document would look very similar
to the app input)? Or is there a more efficient way to do this?


One good way to do this is to create the Word template first, and insert 
placeholders for each item that you will later fill with actual data. 
For example, put something like "***NAME***" in the place where a name 
will go, or "***TOTAL***" in the place where a sum total will go. Save 
the file. If you want, you can store the file inside a custom property 
in your stack so that it doesn't have to reside on disk.


Then in Revolution, you open the file (or put the custom property into a 
variable) and use the "replace" command to replace your placeholders 
with actual values:


  replace "***NAME***" with tName in myTemplateFile

Once that is done, save the file to disk under a new name, and then use 
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Re: OT: what makes a bundle a bundle on OS X?

2006-03-08 Thread Andre Garzia

Klaus,

from a quick look. Bundles have the "BDNL" file type. Revdb.bundle  
has a "APPL" file type.


revxml has a pkgInfo file with it's bundle file type and no creator.  
revdb.bundle has a info.plist file listing APPL as the bundle type...  
and so on.


They are both bundles, but of a different nature.

If you're looking into creating bundles, try creating a folder with  
with a 'Contents' subfolder, inside that folder try putting a pkgInfo  
text file with "BDNL", it might work... There are technical docs  
at the ADC site about bundles "About Bundles" developer.apple.com/documentation/CoreFoundation/Conceptual/CFBundles/ 
Concepts/about.html>


In this ADC docs, you'll learn all about modern bundle structures and  
where to put each file. A bundle is not just a pretty folder™


Cheers
andre

On Mar 8, 2006, at 12:43 PM, Klaus Major wrote:


Hi friends,

maybe someone can explain the following to me, i am very curious :-)

Some Bundles appear as ONE file -> revxml.bundle
and some appear as a folder -> revdb.bundle

What is the difference?
Thanks in advance.


Regards

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Re: how to re-open stack

2006-03-08 Thread J. Landman Gay

stevex64 wrote:

Hi all. I haven't used Rev for about 6 months, and I have the latest version.
It seems there was a way in the last version I had where I could re-open the
stack I was working in from a menu item. But I can't find it now. Any ideas? 


There is an "open recent file" item in the File menu. That should do it.

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Re: Best source for examples

2006-03-08 Thread Andre Garzia

Andy,

try RevOnline. Just click on RevOnline button on the main IDE. Lots  
of Freebies there.


be welcome to the Revolution.

Cheers
andre
On Feb 27, 2006, at 1:49 PM, Andy wrote:

Can anyone point me to some resources, examples etc for Rev? I'm  
new to it
(i.e. last Friday), and being a PHP programmer, I'm still trying to  
get my

head around the concepts!
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Re: Latest Version of RunRev for Mac OS 9???

2006-03-08 Thread Stephen Barncard
The OS9 version was promised, and I have no doubt they will deliver 
it. It's too  important to the educational market. I heard the 
difficulty is that they have to use a new compiler for OS9. I think 
they don't want a non- version 2.7 out there.




Hi,

I doubt there will be a version 2.7 for MacOS 9 either, the same was 
said about version 2.6.6 and that version didn't materialize. Don't 
understand why version 2.6.1 isn't on their web site tho?


All the Best
Dave

On 7 Mar 2006, at 20:09, Robert Brenstein wrote:


Hi Dave... It's Rev 2.6.1 and you have to ask Heather directly.  It's
doubtful that 2.7 or later will get to OS 9... Jim



I hope you are wrong, Jim. And the RR web site states that OS9 
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RE: 2.7 bugs

2006-03-08 Thread Andy Calloway
I've got it working now. I downloaded the full install rather than the net
install and it worked a treat. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Cozens
Sent: 08 March 2006 16:40
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: 2.7 bugs


Hi  Andy,

> Anyone else here bought 2.7 and can't get it to register?

I had no problem here with the same license code I received for v2.6.1.

Are you typing the code into the boxes or importing it from the Clipboard?

Rob Cozens
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Re: No OpenStack ..... ! continued

2006-03-08 Thread Rob Cozens

Hi Francis,


You say  :

|  The main issue I had was created by moving uncompressed stacks from 
Mac

|  to PC.
|
|  Once I began compressing stacks on the Mac & decompressing on my 
TPC,

|  all but minor problems went away.

Could you clarify just a little please ? My curiosity is aroused !



Before I upgraded to RRv2.6.1, I was using v2.1.2 on MacOS Classic and 
MacOSX Macs.  When I renewed my license, I chose a Studio license for 
Windows, as my preferred platform is the Tablet PC.


In my first attempt at moving my Mac stacks to WinXP, I simply plugged 
my Lexar JumpDrive into a USB slot on the Mac, dragged the stack files 
to the JumpDrive, and reversed the process on the TPC.  (I had been 
using this technique to move files between MacOS Classic and MacOSX for 
some time with no problem.)


Some stacks seemed to survive this process and run OK; but others 
didn't.  Most especially, I would get "there was an error creating the 
standalone" errors from the Standalone Builder.


Based on suggestions from this List, I revised my stack file transfer 
procedure so that the stack files are compressed on the Mac before 
dragging them to the JumpDrive and decompressed on the TPC.  When this 
was done, the stacks that wouldn't build correctly previously did build 
working standalone apps.


Others used zip format, I use SDB_Tools plugIn's Compress/Expand folder 
menuItems, and one could probably use Rev's gzip facility (though the 
later must be applied on a file-by-file basis).


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Re: 2.7 bugs

2006-03-08 Thread Rob Cozens


Hi  Andy,


Anyone else here bought 2.7 and can't get it to register?


I had no problem here with the same license code I received for v2.6.1.

Are you typing the code into the boxes or importing it from the 
Clipboard?


Rob Cozens
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Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee."

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RE: Best source for examples

2006-03-08 Thread Andy Calloway
Hi Trevor,

Thanks for all the info, I've been going through the help files over the
past few days, but I think I need to put a few hours to one side to really
get to grips with it.

Cheers,

Andy. 

Hi Andy,

I imagine you have 2.7 so check out Help->Getting Started and Help-  >User
Guide.  Also check out the Rev scripting conferences at
.

Having moved from PHP as a primary development language to Rev, I would
recommend the following:

1) Get really familiar with the Revolution message path.   
Understanding the message path can bring you joy, not understanding the
message path will bring you pain ;-)  Check out Richard Gaskin's article on
it "Extending the Runtime Revolution Message Path" at


2) Become familiar with chunk expressions and the Transcript array.   
Transcript doesn't have objects and arrays like PHP but you will find that
you can often use Transcript "lists" where you used PHP arrays and
Transcript "arrays" where you used PHP objects.  You just need to get into
the Transcript mindset.  Open the User Guide from 2.7 and search for Array.
That should bring up some useful information.  The scripting conference has
a session on chunks.

3) Search for "start using" in Help->Dictionary.  This is basically what you
can use as a replacement for "require" and "include" in PHP if you have code
you want available everywhere in a project.

4) Unfortunately, Revolution doesn't have any application frameworks that
are publicly available at the moment.  This means everyone is kind of on
their own.  You have to create your own standard libraries, user data
storage routines (prefs and application state such as window positions,
etc.).  This isn't a show stopper but is a HUGE barrier to entry for new
developers IMO.  Look at creating your own libraries (see point 3) of common
routines.

Hopefully that will get you started.

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Re: Best source for examples

2006-03-08 Thread Trevor DeVore

On Feb 27, 2006, at 8:49 AM, Andy wrote:

Can anyone point me to some resources, examples etc for Rev? I'm  
new to it
(i.e. last Friday), and being a PHP programmer, I'm still trying to  
get my

head around the concepts!


Hi Andy,

I imagine you have 2.7 so check out Help->Getting Started and Help- 
>User Guide.  Also check out the Rev scripting conferences at  
.


Having moved from PHP as a primary development language to Rev, I  
would recommend the following:


1) Get really familiar with the Revolution message path.   
Understanding the message path can bring you joy, not understanding  
the message path will bring you pain ;-)  Check out Richard Gaskin's  
article on it "Extending the Runtime Revolution Message Path" at  



2) Become familiar with chunk expressions and the Transcript array.   
Transcript doesn't have objects and arrays like PHP but you will find  
that you can often use Transcript "lists" where you used PHP arrays  
and Transcript "arrays" where you used PHP objects.  You just need to  
get into the Transcript mindset.  Open the User Guide from 2.7 and  
search for Array.  That should bring up some useful information.  The  
scripting conference has a session on chunks.


3) Search for "start using" in Help->Dictionary.  This is basically  
what you can use as a replacement for "require" and "include" in PHP  
if you have code you want available everywhere in a project.


4) Unfortunately, Revolution doesn't have any application frameworks  
that are publicly available at the moment.  This means everyone is  
kind of on their own.  You have to create your own standard  
libraries, user data storage routines (prefs and application state  
such as window positions, etc.).  This isn't a show stopper but is a  
HUGE barrier to entry for new developers IMO.  Look at creating your  
own libraries (see point 3) of common routines.


Hopefully that will get you started.

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Re: Revolution vs Visual Basic

2006-03-08 Thread Bob Warren

Haitham/Mark wrote:

>Question (3):
>>
>> VB .NET has the Tree Component which makes you able to build something
>> similar to the trees of folders and files in Windows Explorer. It
>> is very
>> easy to use and you can expand and add items into the tree
>> dynamically. Is
>> there something similar in Revolution? Is it easy to do such thing?

>Not built in, but I think there are a couple of tree view components
>from users of this list

---
Haitham:

Please visit the following webpage for details of file/picture chooser 
widgets written in Rev:


http://www.howsoft.com/runrev/stacks.htm

These widgets do, of course, include HD trees.

The standalone widgets exist for Windows XP/2000 and Ubuntu Linux. In 
view of the fact that I do not possess sufficient machines for testing 
versions for MAC and other flavours of Linux, I intend to release the 
source stacks so that other developers can make the adaptions for these 
platforms. I shall be releasing the stacks within the next few days.


What this means for you personally, apart from using the widgets as they 
stand, is that you can adapt the HD treeviews as you want.


I don't know whether or not other programmers would find it easy or 
difficult to produce HD treeviews in Rev. The fact is, that so far they 
don't seem to have done it very much. Certainly, for me, the development 
of these stacks was non-trivial to say the least. (On the other hand, it 
was my first real attempt at producing an application in Rev. In actual 
fact, I did it in VB6 first, and then "translated" it into Transcript.)


I believe that one other programmer has produced a treeview widget 
fairly recently (but NOT for the HD), which you can add to or subtract 
from. If you look back on the Use-Rev Lists, you are sure to find it


Regards,
Bob Warren

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OT: what makes a bundle a bundle on OS X?

2006-03-08 Thread Klaus Major

Hi friends,

maybe someone can explain the following to me, i am very curious :-)

Some Bundles appear as ONE file -> revxml.bundle
and some appear as a folder -> revdb.bundle

What is the difference?
Thanks in advance.


Regards

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Re: Revolution vs Visual Basic

2006-03-08 Thread Mikey
> Important to know is that in Revolution, effectively everything is a
> string, there are no types. This is both a disadvantage and a huge
> advantage.

This is misleading.  Variables in all xtalk languages are not
strongly-typed.  They are not strings, longints, reals, booleans, or
anything else.  As programmers people frequently think of untyped
variables as strings simply because it is the type that is most
commonly used in all programming.  However, since variables are
untyped, it is possible to take pi, for instance, and in one statement
use it in a mathematical expression:

put pi*diameter into circumference

And then on the very next line use it as a string:

answer "The circumference is:"&&circumference


While one of the real strengths of xtalk languages is that they have
very strong string manipulation routines through chunk expressions,
that does not make variables in an xtalk language a string.  The
difference may seem subtle, but it is important - there is no need to
cast a variable when it is used in different contexts.
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Re: 2.7 bugs

2006-03-08 Thread David Burgun

Hi,

If I were you I'd see if you can get ahold of a 2.6.6 version of  
RunRev. 2.7 is so buggy that I have stopped using it until a new  
version is released.


All the Best
Dave

On 26 Feb 2006, at 09:21, Andy wrote:

Anyone else here bought 2.7 and can't get it to register? Mine just  
takes

the key, runs then on next launching says "you've got 28 days left".

I've emailed support, but as I'm completely new to Rev, I thought  
I'd ask in

case I was missing something obvious.

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Re: Scrollbar to drag through a movie?

2006-03-08 Thread Jim Hurley

Klaus Major wrote:



Hi Jim,


 Klaus,

 Sorry to be so dense about this, but I presume that the "QT 
 controller" must first be loaded into RR for it to appear in the 
 inspector. That's what I don't get: How do I load the controller 
 into RR?


That's just an option for a (QT) player object, just like the 
controller bar in the QuickTime Player!


Create a player and check "Controller" on the "Basic Properties" tab 
of the inspector, that's all.

It's not magic, ladies and gentlemen :-)



Klaus,

It's always magic the first time!

There is a considerable lag if one uses one's own scroll bar verses 
the scroll bar built into the controller using the handler:


on scrollbardrag tNew
  set the currenttime of player "myPlayer" to tNew
end scrollbardrag


I couldn't find the messages described in the documentation under "player" i.e.

"To see a list of messages that can be sent to a player as a result 
of user actions or internal Revolution events, open the "Transcript 
Language Dictionary" page of the main Documentation window, and 
choose "Player Messages" from the Show menu at the top. To see a list 
of all the properties a player can have, choose "Player Properties" 
from the Show menu." (RR 2.6.1)




 I spoke to Mark Waddingham at Monterey about this screen refresh 
 problem in Mac OS X and he said (I think) that he was going to fix 
 it. Maybe I should remind him.


That is supposed to get fixed in 2.7.1 (or already 2.7).



That is good news. I'll wait for 2.7.1. (I thought you said it was 
not fixed in 2.7) The grass is always greener on the other side of 
the current version.


Thanks for your help.

Jim
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Re: Revolution vs Visual Basic

2006-03-08 Thread Mark Smith
Haitham, I can't answer anything like all your questions, but I'll  
have a go at what I can:


On 6 Mar 2006, at 06:43, Haitham Abdulla wrote:



Question (2):

VB .NET has some great built-in components and I want to ask whether
Revolution has them. Some of those components are:

a.  Font Dialog Box
   no, but I think something may be available from someone on this  
list.


b. Color Dialog Box

   yes


c. Save Dialog Box

   yes


d. Print Dialog Box

   yes




Question (3):

VB .NET has the Tree Component which makes you able to build something
similar to the trees of folders and files in Windows Explorer. It  
is very
easy to use and you can expand and add items into the tree  
dynamically. Is

there something similar in Revolution? Is it easy to do such thing?
Not built in, but I think there are a couple of tree view components  
from users of this list



Question (4):

We can build easily a Tool Bar in VB .NET and add icons in the Tool  
Bar. We
can also easily draw pictures for the icons within VB .NET or we  
can attach

any saved pictures to the icons.

Is there something similar in Revolution? Is it easy to do so?


If you mean a row of buttons with custom icons, extremely easy


Question (5):

We, as programmers, used to use some techniques and algorithms in our
programs. Sometimes we need to use Stacks, Queues, Hash Tables,
Dictionaries, etc. All these objects, or most of them, are built in  
VB .NET

and we can use them easily.


not really, but a lot of the power in Revolution is in it's chunk  
expressions, and many different kinds of structures can be easily  
made and used.
Important to know is that in Revolution, effectively everything is a  
string, there are no types. This is both a disadvantage and a huge  
advantage.
A little out of my depth in saying this, but I don't think Revolution  
would be optimal for writing large and complex image manipulation  
routines, for example.


I'll leave it there, as I have no experience of VB, so perhaps others  
can offer useful comparisons.


Best

Mark
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Re: Missing Report Builder

2006-03-08 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Kresten,

I looked into the scripts of the report builder and the printing
scripts in the backscripts. It appears that a range of
properties need to be set for the report builder to work
properly. I don't have enough time to figure out where these
properties are set. The scripts for setting the properties might
be in the menu bar or somewhere else, I can't find them in the
backscripts and the report builder stack sript.

It should be possible to write your own script to set the
properties, after figuring out how the report builder and the
printing scripts in the backscripts work.

I'm sure, though, that it much easier to create your own report
stack. Make a stack with one card of the size of a page and put
the fields you need on this card. Use a repeat loop to retrieve
information from other stacks and print the card. This is all
the report builder does.

Best,

Mark


Kresten Bjerg wrote:

In the Revolution Documentation concerning revPrintReport the
 description refers to its function as printing a report, you
have set up in the Report Builder.And there is reference to
the tools menu having a submenu "Report Builder". But
although I have a Studio IDE, v 2.6.1 there is no trace of
the report builder in the menu. However: down in the tools
folder, I do find a revreportsetup.rev stack! But it is hard
to guess, how it can be used. In the revPrintReport
documentation it says: See also..."How do I create a report
layout card"  " but it is a lame link ! I have searched
this list, and find lots of references to report builder, but
it looks as if quartam reports by Jan Schenkel has suceeded
in pushing the evident professional commercial interests in
selling a highly developed tool, where 129 dollars is
necessary.As I am developing a freeware standalone, and need
very limited pre-organized reporting options: 4 week cards of
a calendar on a page, a list-format for an adresses stack, 
simple tasks in hypercard 10 years ago, I wonder I had

expected at least to find something like the printreport of
hypercard,-converted to revolution -The revreportsetup.rev
stack may be the answer, but where do I find the answer to
the "How do I create a report layout-card?" question.


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Re: sort of OT, CD names to iTunes

2006-03-08 Thread Charles Hartman


On Mar 8, 2006, at 8:11 AM, Kay C Lan wrote:

The only reason I'd recommend this method is that I hate to waste  
CD space.
Most LPs are only 45 min or less. Quite a few Double LPs can fit on  
an 80min
CD. So by putting everything in iTunes first I can then add extra  
tracks

(either by the same artist or of a similar genre to fill the CD.


I decided the opposite -- particularly because so little accessible  
data is available on the audio CD. That leaves the magic-marker label  
on the CD itself the only key to its contents. If that's the title of  
one LP, the problem is minimal; if it's twenty miscellaneous  
tracks . . . CDs are now roughly 20 cents apiece; their storage bulk  
is not much more imposing, if you find a reasonable binder system for  
them.


As for OK vs Next in iTunes, note that if you've burned the tracks to  
CD before importing to iTunes, cmd-I (Get Info) on the CD with no  
track selected lets you fill in album-title and album-artist (and  
album-composer if there's only one) just once, leaving only track  
names and composers to be filled in.


Burn to CD first? It's a tough call, as discussed before on this  
list. My assumption is that I want to end up with AIFFs on the CD  
(for fidelity) and AACs in iTunes (for the huge space savings on my  
hard disk). Given that assumption, burning the CD first turns out to  
be competitive for efficiency with the reverse. And I'm realizing  
that filling in the data on the CD (with Toast Lite, say) is a  
complete waste of timen -- which means it has to be filled in only  
once, when the CD is imported into iTunes.


Charles

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Newbie adventure game question

2006-03-08 Thread Liam Shannon

Hello,

I am so new to Revolution that I don't even own it yet. That said, I  
am very excited to join what seems to be a very exciting community  
and growing capability and I hope someday to be able to contribute as  
well as query. For now though, I am just a bunch of questions.


My first question has to do with my main reason for arriving at  
Revolution. I want to create an adventure game. And while I am well- 
schooled in everything from Strata CX to Final Cut Pro,  I (since the  
demise of mTropolis) have no way to bring my individual files  
together in a working app. As a result, I have spent literally months  
and months searching for an app that would let me author on the Mac  
(if I was Windows based I realize I would have more options but that  
is not really an option). To this end, I had been trying to learn a  
program called Pipmak (http://pipmak.sourceforge.net) which is based  
on Lua and allows the creation of a really cool panoramic node-based  
adventure game experience. Unfortunately, as I do not have a  
programming base (since using Basic in the 70's) I can't even figure  
out how to launch Lua on my Mac. And Pipmak doesn't offer the other  
functionality (easy scripting, sound handling, etc.) that I need. So  
here I am.


But, I am still jonesing for the ability to create a 360 degree  
panoramic experience (like the later Myst games) and yet the folks at  
Revolution have informed me that Revolution can only create the kind  
of experience presented in the original Myst - ie. face forward, want  
to look left then click left and dissolve to another straight on  
image of what is on the left. To get beyond this they suggest  
Quicktime VR but I must admit I find Quicktime VR to be very jumpy,  
limited, and somewhat unreal feeling and I would much prefer the kind  
of feeling one gets in the Pipmak demo (http://pipmak.sourceforge.net/ 
downloads.php).


So here (at long last) is the question. Why can't one achieve the  
same effect as Pipmak in Revolution?


If it matters, the Pipmak documentation, which explains how it  
stiches panoramas out of flat images,  is also at the link above.


In advance, thanks for any thoughts.

Liam





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Re: Common Causes of Crashes?

2006-03-08 Thread Kay C Lan
On 3/1/06, Stephen Paul McNutt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'd like to know some common causes I can look for in
> my scripts.



What were the last things you added to your  stack?

Do you have a backup copy of your stack from a week ago that still works?

Can you open your stack and it only crashes after certain events?

Can you set 'breakpoints' and step through scripts? Look for any instance
where the script suddenly steps to the very end.

Some other details like;

Rev Version, (DreamCard,Studio)(2.6.x,2.7)
OS Version
Hardware - speed and ram

might also help others on the list help you.

HTH
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Re: sort of OT, CD names to iTunes

2006-03-08 Thread Kay C Lan
Sorry for being late with this reply but I've been a bit 'listless' lately
and I've left the OT posts to last to browse through. I thought though, as
obviuosly quite a few of us have been through, going through or
contemplating digitizing analog material, I'd share my recent marathon
experience.

Alex Tweedly wrote:

I am 99.9% sure that the track names are not on an audio CD. If they
> were, iTunes, MusicMatch, etc. would surely retrieve them for us,
> wouldn't they ?
>

Yes, you can be 100% sure. If you take a commercial CD and look at it
through the Finder (Mac) or iTunes (cancel the Gracenote lookup) you will
see that the tracks are simply listed as Track 01, Track 02, etc.

Alex also wrote:

> I think today you do:
> 1. LP -> AIFF
> 2. AIFF -> CD
> 3. CD -> iTunes
>

I did it:
1. LP -> AIFF
2. AIFF -> iTunes
3. iTunes -> CD

The only reason I'd recommend this method is that I hate to waste CD space.
Most LPs are only 45 min or less. Quite a few Double LPs can fit on an 80min
CD. So by putting everything in iTunes first I can then add extra tracks
(either by the same artist or of a similar genre to fill the CD.

Some tips to make life easy entering data into iTunes.

1) Set iTunes up to list songs ordered by Album. Drag an album of AIFF files
from the Finder into the iTunes window. They will be grouped together so
when you open the Info window you can use the 'Next' button to sequential
add data.

2)Once you've entered the first track details (Track name, artist name,
album name etc) press 'OK', NOT 'Next'. By doing so the info is 'registered'
with iTunes and from then on you only have to type the first couple of
letters and the rest will be automatically filled in (obviously doesn't work
for track name). If you don't press 'OK', but use the 'Next' button the auto
entries don't include the data you just entered so you have to type the
whole lot.

Once you've 'OK'ed the first track, for the rest you can use the 'Next'
button and every keystroke will bring up auto-suggestions.

3) Do your albums in REVERSE alphabetical order. Both by Artist and by Album
name. Consider the following list of Artist.

Pet Shop Boys
Pete Townsend
Peter Allen
Peter Blakeley
Peter Cetera
Peter Cetera With Amy Grant
Peter Cetera With Cher
Peter Frampton
Peter Gabriel
Peter Murphy
Peter Murphy and Tom Waits
Peter, Paul & Mary

Because iTunes' intelligent guess works on alphabetical order. If you enter
your Artist/Albums in alphabetical order, to enter the ones by 'Peter Cetera
With Cher' you would have to type 'Peter Cetera With C' before iTunes would
correctly fill in the rest.

But if you work in reverse alphabetical order, all you would need to do is
Type 'P' and the first guess would be 'Peter Cetera With Cher' - that is
after you have entered it the first time. Saves an inordinate amount of
typing.

HTH
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My DreamCard doesn't start

2006-03-08 Thread Takaaki Furukawa
My DreamCard 2.5 for Mac OS X doesn't start. The dock icon bounces for 
a couple of times
when I click it, but it quits without warning. I deleted the Pref file 
but no effect.

What should I do?

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Re: Sheet command

2006-03-08 Thread Yves COPPE


Le 08-mars-06 à 06:13, Scott Morrow a écrit :

Although it takes a few lines, I do this fairly often with  
something like:


go inv cd "xyz" of stack "abc"
sheet stack "abc"  in stack  "parentstack B"
show stack "abc"

-Scott Morrow



Thank you. Works fine


Greetings.

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Re: Latest Version of RunRev for Mac OS 9???

2006-03-08 Thread David Burgun

Hi,

I doubt there will be a version 2.7 for MacOS 9 either, the same was  
said about version 2.6.6 and that version didn't materialize. Don't  
understand why version 2.6.1 isn't on their web site tho?


All the Best
Dave

On 7 Mar 2006, at 20:09, Robert Brenstein wrote:


Hi Dave... It's Rev 2.6.1 and you have to ask Heather directly.  It's
doubtful that 2.7 or later will get to OS 9... Jim



I hope you are wrong, Jim. And the RR web site states that OS9  
version is coming, whatever that means.

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lockScreen Property Question

2006-03-08 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon

Hi from Paris,

I have the same problem too, and I have found no
solution.HC was perfect in that field. You could do
a world trip in no time at all, and not a flicker on the
screen. I also await a solution.

-Francis

"Nothing should ever be done for the first time !"


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2.7 bugs

2006-03-08 Thread Andy
Anyone else here bought 2.7 and can't get it to register? Mine just takes
the key, runs then on next launching says "you've got 28 days left".

I've emailed support, but as I'm completely new to Rev, I thought I'd ask in
case I was missing something obvious.

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Windows Standalone and DB externals

2006-03-08 Thread syu+
Hi,

Does anyone know how to include all externals files into one single
standalone application when connecting to MYSQL in windowsXP?

I saved an application as a standalone in windows, since it needs to
connect to MySQL database, the program also generates other files and
folders as follows:

-- Windows (folder)
  -- myApplication (standalone application)
  -- libMySQL.dll (file)
  -- externals (folder)
 -- revdb.dll
 -- database-drivers (folder)
-- dbodbc.dll
-- dbmysql.dll

thanks,

Shanwen Yu



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Best source for examples

2006-03-08 Thread Andy
Can anyone point me to some resources, examples etc for Rev? I'm new to it
(i.e. last Friday), and being a PHP programmer, I'm still trying to get my
head around the concepts!
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how to re-open stack

2006-03-08 Thread stevex64

Hi all. I haven't used Rev for about 6 months, and I have the latest version.
It seems there was a way in the last version I had where I could re-open the
stack I was working in from a menu item. But I can't find it now. Any ideas? 

Thanks!

Steve Ralston
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Table fields in 2.7

2006-03-08 Thread Sumner, Walton
My attempts to use table fields in Rev 2.7/Windows have been slightly less 
frustrating than with Rev 2.6.1, but are hardly satisfactory. Could others 
comment on their experiences with table fields? I guess I'm hoping that I have 
a local problem.

With very large table fields, hundreds or thousands of rows, dozens of columns, 
clicking on cells used to cause the whole field to go blank. That seems less 
likely now, but Rev 2.7/Windows can hang for 30 seconds at a time, and although 
it usually recovers, it still might lose the whole field. Or I might give up 
and kill the application. It's hard to imagine that this control passed stress 
testing before this release.

I am thrilled to have a multiplatform development environment, but unstable 
core features are a huge barrier to broader adoption. Because of bugs like 
this, I never suggest that my colleagues use Rev unless they are old Hypercard 
fans. I hope that changes soon.

--Walt Sumner
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Re: Spell checking in Rev apps?

2006-03-08 Thread Scott Morrow

Tom:
I'm pleased that you found it useful!

Sivakatirswami:
One way to make sure all the text is set back to the default color  
might be to:


 lock screen -- hide the following selection process
 select text of tSpellField -- your field name here 
 set the foregroundColor of the selectedChunk to empty -- return  
all text to its native color


Of course this assumes that your field doesn't contain any odd pieces  
of text that are *supposed* to be colored differently.


-Scott

On Feb 21, 2006, at 6:35 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:


Scott,

I found it. It was creating the folder and file but not writing to  
the file. And it was saving the learned words in the global  
gCustomDictionary in the substack across saves.


I added the writecustomdictionary on the close stack of the  
spellchecker and then it saved it to the file customDict.txt



Very cool. I am learning a lot from this.

Thank you for posting.

Tom


On Feb 21, 2006, at 9:25 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:


Scott,

Gratuities:
Thanks for this, I really learned a lot from it. I am curious  
about the "Learn" -- CustomDict.txt -- feature. I found the file  
CustomDict.txt created in the DemoSpellChecker Folder and created  
a few "fake" words to have the system learn them. Well it seems to  
work across openings of the stack.


SpellChecker question:
My question is 'where' is it saving these custom dictionary words?  
I checked the CustomDict.txt file and it appears empty. I checked  
for custom properties etc. but to no avail. I did find the  
WriteCustomDictionary function but can not find where it might be  
called from?


Revolution question:
Is there a way in rev to find out based on the name of a function  
where it is called from in a stack across objects/scripts etc.? I  
tried the find and replace method and I only get the function and  
not any place it might be called from.



Thanks

Tom


On Feb 20, 2006, at 9:50 PM, Scott Morrow wrote:


Garrett,
This topic has kept my interest for some time.
Jean-Baptiste LE STANG has written an AppleScript extension  <   
http://www.lestang.org/ >  that allows a link to Apple's OSX  
spell checking engine.  It can be used with Revolution to create  
a spell checker.  Obviously it requires OSX (version 10.3 or  
better, actually) and so will not provide the general solution  
that the others (and myself) are looking for.
 I have placed an example solution in the RevOnline User Space  
under username "Scott"  - or from the message box:


 go URL "http://elementarysoftware.com/rev_demos/ 
spellcheck_demo.rev"


I continue working towards a more generalized solution... an  
attempt at which I have just recently included in a Beta  
application.  My biggest difficulties have been with speed  
(checking more than 2 pages of text becomes poky) and with  
returning good phonetic suggestions.


For word banks I am using:
Spell Checking Oriented Word Lists (SCOWL)
by Kevin Atkinson
http://wordlist.sourceforge.net/

For returning phonetic suggestions I am using a variation of  
Double Metaphone, based on Lawrence Phillips algorithm.


If I ever come up with something solid I'll be sure and notify  
the list.   :  )

-Scott Morrow

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On Feb 20, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Garrett Hylltun wrote:

Greetings,

Has anyone ever found a way to add spell checking ability into  
resulting rev apps?


Thanks,
-Garrett

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Help with Video Capture

2006-03-08 Thread Braintree Athletics
I'm running Windows XP, the trial of Rev 2.7, Quicktime 7.0.3, an attached 
Canon camera with Firewire and CANNOT get any video to preview or record. In 
fact, when switching the radio buttons to Quicktime and choosing video 
settings Rev crashes. (Canon works with MovieMaker on this computer.)


This is a deal-breaker in terms of whether or not I move from an older 
version of Metacard to Rev. Metacard can't do this and was excited to find 
that Rev was supposed to. Any help, suggestions or information will be very 
much appreciated.


Thanks to all in advance,

Jack Rarick
Braintree Athletic Systems


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RE: Transcript and Dot Notation

2006-03-08 Thread MidiToolz

--

> A function of birthing a child object would come from attributes found in
the parent object while passing values during creation.

I think somebody has had a little too much Jolt cola...

There are much better environments to do this in, like NetBeans
(www.netbeans.org) or Eclipse (www.eclipse.org).


> Crazy huh?

Yes, a little.
;-)


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