Re: Without Waiting

[Phil Davis]

Hi Bridger,

The basic answer is no. Rev doesn't support multi-threading.

However, you can use different 'wait' options in a long-running handler that 
will let you successfully interact with the UI, for example. You can also break 
a long-running handler up into smaller parts that get started by a 'send... in 0 
seconds' or whatever time you want. That gives you the same interactivity 
support as the 'wait' option.


Phil Davis


Bridger Maxwell wrote:

Hey,
 Is it possible to have two handlers, and to call the second handler from
within the first handler, and have the first handler keep executing without
waiting for the second handler to finish?

Example:
---
on Handler1
  Handler2  ---Call this handler, but don't wait for it to finish before
beeping
  beep
end Handler1


on Handler2
  doSomeStuffThatTakesALongTime
end Handler2




Thank You
  Bridger

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Re: Without Waiting

[Scott Rossi]

Recently, Bridger Maxwell wrote:

> Is it possible to have two handlers, and to call the second handler from
> within the first handler, and have the first handler keep executing without
> waiting for the second handler to finish?

This depends on what you're doing in the second handler.  You might be able
to do something like this:

on Handler1
   send "doHandler2" to me in 0 millisecs -- TO START QUICKLY
   beep
end Handler1

on doHandler2
   doSomeStuffThatTakesALongTime
end doHandler2

...but you'll have to test to see if this works for you.  What you're trying
to do is threading, and while Revolution does not inherently provide any
means for threaded events, using "send in..." can sometimes accomplish
similar results.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
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How to change icon on standalone file and on left corner of stack (defalut Renrev Icon) (Runre v.2.5.1)

[Supote-Gmail]

Dear Sir

   Now I use Runrev Version 2.5.1. I want to know how to change icon on 
standalone file and on left corner of stack (defalut Renrev Icon). 
Please help me. Urgent!!!

Thank you very much

Best regards,
Supote
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Re: Revolution Community Partners

[Phil Davis]

http://forums.runrev.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=343

Phil Davis


Dar Scott wrote:


On Jul 24, 2006, at 8:13 PM, Lynn Fredricks wrote:


If you are interested in working closely with Runtime as a Revolution
Community Partner, Ive started a thread in the User Groups and Gatherings
forum to discuss what its all about, expectations and compensation.


Uh, I looked at the RunRev Forums and I don't see that.  I just see some 
announcements.


Dar Scott

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Without Waiting

[Bridger Maxwell]

Hey,
 Is it possible to have two handlers, and to call the second handler from
within the first handler, and have the first handler keep executing without
waiting for the second handler to finish?

Example:
---
on Handler1
  Handler2  ---Call this handler, but don't wait for it to finish before
beeping
  beep
end Handler1


on Handler2
  doSomeStuffThatTakesALongTime
end Handler2




Thank You
  Bridger
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Re: Revolution Community Partners

[Richard Gaskin]

Lynn Fredricks write:

If you are interested in working closely with Runtime as a Revolution
Community Partner, Ive started a thread in the User Groups and Gatherings
forum to discuss what its all about, expectations and compensation.


Since you introduced the subject here and haven't provided the URL to 
that thread, could you could at least tell us what a "Community Partner" 
is?


That might encourage some of us to go hunt down that discussion to learn 
more


--
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Re: Revolution Community Partners

[Dar Scott]

On Jul 24, 2006, at 8:13 PM, Lynn Fredricks wrote:


If you are interested in working closely with Runtime as a Revolution
Community Partner, Ive started a thread in the User Groups and  
Gatherings

forum to discuss what its all about, expectations and compensation.


Uh, I looked at the RunRev Forums and I don't see that.  I just see  
some announcements.


Dar Scott

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Revolution Community Partners

[Lynn Fredricks]

Hi all,

If you are interested in working closely with Runtime as a Revolution
Community Partner, Ive started a thread in the User Groups and Gatherings
forum to discuss what its all about, expectations and compensation.

Best regards,


Lynn Fredricks
Worldwide Business Operations
Runtime Revolution, Ltd


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Re: Looking for Offline mail list reader

[Viktoras Didziulis]

 
Whoops! Alejandro, sorry for the typo in your name. 
 
All the best! 
Viktoras
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RE: "Hello World"

[Lynn Fredricks]

> Shouldn't xTalk/Transcript be here:
> 
> http://guides.macrumors.com/Compiling_and_executing_a_Hello_Wo
> rld_application

Good point Richmond. I didn't know this existed.

Best regards,


Lynn Fredricks
Worldwide Business Operations
Runtime Revolution, Ltd


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Re: Looking for Offline mail list reader

[Viktoras Didziulis]

 Hi Aljandro,
 
I once had a simmilar idea. Planned to work on this some time in the future.
But as far as now I am overloaded with other jobs, I see no reason why not
to share this with public, maybe someone could use it for good ;-)
 
Currently e-mail is just an e-mail, you got a mailbox, and you got a mail
reader, that's it... And as a side effect of this "model" you receive lots
of spam each day. The idea was to develop different smtp based services
integrated with different purposes mailboxes serve today. That would
eliminate some portion of the spam that reach our sights.
 
Software idea No 1. listserv reader.
 Central server maintains mailing lists database by topics, server location,
listserv type, where send messages to, where send subscribe/unsubscribe
requests to, etc. Listserv reader uses the database to search for active
lists by topics or keywords, subscribe or unsubscribe by simply selecting
from a list and clicking a button. It automatically confirms subscription to
a listserv if it was used to send a subscribe request. Upon subscription, it
creates an index of all threads stored in the listserv database by topic, so
that finding the right discussion that took place years ago is just a matter
of point-and-click. So you are not forced to go to "their" archives using
internet browsers. It reads only messages received from listservs it was
used to subscribe to. Everything else gets simply ignored, this means - no
spam! Well, maybe a preferred option in this case would be creating a
separate mailbox for this purpose in order to ensure that all messages go to
the listserv reader, and not to Outlook or whatever ordinary mailing soft
instead. Plus adding more options to ensure comfortable discussions - like
all messages sent as text only, so you don't have send them twice as you are
forced to do now if you forget to turn text-only mode on. Option to read
digest messages as if they were distinct (by topics) and reply to the right
thread (not Re: digest) automatically, etc...
 
Software idea No 2. Integration of personal organizer with a mailbox to
subscribe and accept reminders from institutions or people so you do not
forget to pay your taxes in time :-), or not to miss a meeting with somebody
(so ask him to send a reminder). Maybe it could be an enhanced Dan's
ToDoPlus piece of software with added ability to subscribe to, send and
receive reminders using smtp.
 
Just my 2 cents...
 
Best wishes
Viktoras
 
---Original Message--- 
 
From: Alejandro Tejada 
Date: 07/24/06 23:55:12 
To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com 
Subject: Looking for Offline mail list reader 
 
Hi all, 
 
Lately i've been working in an offline 
mail list digest reader. 
 
This piece of software works minimally, 
but provides a convenient way to read 
mail threads and search for single words 
in the text of all messages since 2001. 
 
Before i commit more time to enhance this 
stack: 
Had one of you made a similar stack, 
to browse and search mail digest? 
 
Thanks in advance. 
 
alejandro 
 
 
Visit my site: 
http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ 
 
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Looking for Offline mail list reader

[Alejandro Tejada]

Hi all,

Lately i've been working in an offline
mail list digest reader.

This piece of software works minimally,
but provides a convenient way to read
mail threads and search for single words
in the text of all messages since 2001.

Before i commit more time to enhance this
stack:
Had one of you made a similar stack,
to browse and search mail digest?

Thanks in advance.

alejandro


Visit my site:
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Re: Reorder Front Scripts?

[Peter T. Evensen]

If you do another "insert...into front" of you script, I think it will move 
it to the front, just like "start using" will move that library to the 
front of the used libraries.  I haven't tested this though.


You should be able to reissue the "insert" for your tool and move your 
script up when your palette is activated.


At 11:44 PM 7/21/2006, you wrote:

Is there a way to change the order of front scripts without
removing/reinserting scripts?

It seems that Rev's inspector palette reinserts itself into the front every
time it is opened from the main menu and, because it apparently doesn't pass
all object manipulation messages, blocks front scripts I have that are used
for control layout.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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Peter T. Evensen
http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com
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[OT] Impresive digital e-book library for programmers

[Alejandro Tejada]

Hi all,

Although my experience buying e-books have been
less than satisfactory, i've been looking the list 
of 300 e-books available in the standard IEEE 
digital library (www.computer.org)and find this
collection a superb value for the money that cost 
the standard membership!

Which other computer professional organizations
offer digital e-book libraries for their
members?

Thanks in advance!

alejandro

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Re: Reorder Front Scripts?

[Richard Gaskin]

Ken Ray wrote:


On 7/21/06 11:44 PM, "Scott Rossi"  wrote:


Is there a way to change the order of front scripts without
removing/reinserting scripts?


Not as far as I know, Scott.
 

It seems that Rev's inspector palette reinserts itself into the front every
time it is opened from the main menu and, because it apparently doesn't pass
all object manipulation messages, blocks front scripts I have that are used
for control layout.


It should be a "good citizen" and pass them... perhaps the next rev of Rev
would do that?


In general, yes, and I know one IDE that already does, at least most of
the time.

But one issue with IDE message passing comes up anytime someone
wants to make an app that uses the pointer tool: how the IDE should
handle mouse messages while the pointer tool is active?

SuperCard separates pointer- and browse-tool behavior with a distinct 
suite of messages just for the pointer tool (pointerDown, pointerUp, 
etc.).  This is  useful and convenient, allowing a separation of 
behavior that works well since it's extremely rare that you'd ever want 
the same behavior with the browse and pointer tools.


In contrast, Revolution has only one set of messages for both tools, and 
to make matters more challenging the behavior of those messages is not 
consistent between tools (for example, mouseDown is sent when you click 
on a card away from controls with the browse tool, but not with the 
pointer tool, mouseEnter and mouseLeave are never sent with the pointer 
tool, etc.).


With only one set of messages, if the IDE passed these then clicking on 
an object with the pointer tool to resize would also trigger any 
mouseDown script in its message path.


You could write all of your scripts to check the tool before executing, 
but that's a lot of work.


Simpler would be to have a separate set of message devoted to supporting 
the pointer tool, as established long ago by SuperCard and requested for 
Rev in BZ#2606:



This is no panacea for message passing however, since those using the 
pointer tool suite of messages would still need to be conscious of the 
IDE's behavior and be prepared to purge IDE front- and backscripts which 
trap them without passing.


But at least it isolates the scope of the problem to the subset of 
developers making custom drawing environments -- a task so daunting in 
Rev (esp,. compared to the simplicity of doing so in SC) that it's 
currently only for advanced intermediate to expert developers anyway.


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Re: "Hello World"

[Garrett Hylltun]

On Jul 24, 2006, at 10:59 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:


Shouldn't xTalk/Transcript be here:

http://guides.macrumors.com/ 
Compiling_and_executing_a_Hello_World_application


If not, you can find it on the "99 Bottles of Beer" site:

http://www.99-bottles-of-beer.net/t.html

-Garrett

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"Hello World"

[Richmond Mathewson]

Shouldn't xTalk/Transcript be here:

http://guides.macrumors.com/Compiling_and_executing_a_Hello_World_application

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson
 


"Philosophical problems are confusions arising owing to the fluidity of 
meanings users attach to words and phrases."
   Mathewson, 2006


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Re: [OT] Of Mac Right Clicks (was Re: "There Was a Problem Saving the Standalone Application")

[Ben Rubinstein]

On 24/7/06 06:31, Bill Vlahos wrote:
I know the feature in on a MacBook Pro but I think it should be on 
AlBooks too. In the "Keyboard & Mouse" System Preference, click the 
"Trackpad" tab. Check the box labeled, "Place two fingers on trackpad 
and click button for secondary click."


If you don't see that option then you are either at something earlier 
than 10.4.7 or the Mac doesn't support it.


I guess that would be the latter then - my control panel offers an option to
click by trackpad gestures, but not the two-finger for secondary click option.
 Ah, well...

Thanks anyway for your replies.

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Re: player result codes?

[Phil Davis]

Thanks for that verification, Ben.

Ben Rubinstein wrote:
Anyway, back to your question - while I don't know what that number 
signifies either - I can say that from experience recently working with 
machines that didn't do sound (custom made units with Windows XP 
Embedded), in this instance you get an error before using "start 
player", at the point that you set the filename...

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Re: mouse scrolling wheel

[Wouter]

On 24 Jul 2006, at 11:18, Viktoras Didziulis wrote:

Some mouses come with a scrolling wheel. Is there any way to  
capture the

rotation of the wheel in Rev ?

All the best!
Viktoras


on rawkeyDown x
put true into tPass
switch x
case "65308" --scroll down
-- do something
-- put false into tPass -- if no further passing needed
break
case "65309" -- scroll up
-- do something
-- put false into tPass -- if no further passing needed
break
end switch
if tPass then pass rawKeyDown
end rawKeyDown

Greetings,
Wouter
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Re: mouse scrolling wheel

[Mark Talluto]

On Jul 24, 2006, at 8:48 AM, Scott Rossi wrote:


Recently, Viktoras Didziulis wrote:

Some mouses come with a scrolling wheel. Is there any way to  
capture the

rotation of the wheel in Rev ?


rawKeyDown is probably the message you want, but the docs also say:  
"Mouse

wheels do not send a rawKeyDown message on Mac OS systems."


It will work on groups and fields on Macs.


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Re: mouse scrolling wheel

[Scott Rossi]

Recently, Viktoras Didziulis wrote:

> Some mouses come with a scrolling wheel. Is there any way to capture the
> rotation of the wheel in Rev ?

rawKeyDown is probably the message you want, but the docs also say: "Mouse
wheels do not send a rawKeyDown message on Mac OS systems."

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
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Re: [OT] List Professionalism --- was Microphone

[Roger . E . Eller]

> Lighten up, dude. We can be both professional and funny here.

Right, funny, haha.  You just hit the last nerve at the end of a long day.

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Side-Scrollers / Drag-n-Drop

[Richmond Mathewson]

Just uploaded the embryonic stack I used to get a student of mine 
started on some sort of Myst-like game: now waiting for his efforts!

get it at : 'Richmond's RR Students'

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RRRStudents/

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson
 


"Philosophical problems are confusions arising owing to the fluidity of 
meanings users attach to words and phrases."
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mouse scrolling wheel

[Viktoras Didziulis]

Some mouses come with a scrolling wheel. Is there any way to capture the
rotation of the wheel in Rev ? 
 
All the best! 
Viktoras 
 
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Re: [ANN] Time Widget 1.0.0 and Calendar Widget 1.0.0

[Klaus Major]

Hi Sean,

Time Widget is an object that allows a user to enter in a time  
visually.
Calendar Widget is an object that allows a user to enter in a date  
visually.


Both are available at www.shaosean.tk


very, very nice and extremely useful!
Thanks a lot for sharing this.


Best from very hot germany

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Re: [ANN] Time Widget 1.0.0 and Calendar Widget 1.0.0

[Malte Brill]

Very nice!
Many thanks for these.

All the best,

Malte
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