SPAM-MED: Re: Time to upgrade my technique...
Kay C Lan wrote: If I remember correctly, someone saw red when Runtime offered to Teach Programming in a Day and that Learn The Salient Central Points to Runtime Revolution Programming in 1 Day may have been more accurate. Are you now suggesting: Demythologised Programming in 3 easy steps all thanks to Runtime Revolution! as the banner headline for beginners at the next Rev Conference ;-) (all very much in jest:-) Yes, I did, and demythologising something is not the same as teaching somebody the whole kit and caboodle: I have just 'acquired' 10 new 6-7 year old Bulgarians who came into my school scared stiff at the concept of being in a room with a mad Scot and swamped in English. By the end of 90 minutes they were happily pointing a pictures and saying things like this is a green cat. English and English learning had been demythologised to those kids; it doesn't mean they can speak English and they won't be able to conduct anything resembling a meaningful conversation for at least a year. Anybody who doubts me on this is very welcome to hop on a plane and spend a month in my spare bedroom and the schoolroom - Okay, don't all come at once :) However, Runtime Revolution can and should be used to demythologise programming and to break down the imaginary barriers between those who do and those who don't; there should be a continuum between non-programmers and fully-expert programmers (I would place myself somewhere about halfway along the line). sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: how to uniencode text for VCard v. 3.0? [2]
Hi Hugh, Yes, please sent also a copy to me best regards Horst Hugh Senior wrote: Hi Klaus, I just replied totally incorrectly to your UTF-8 query! Must be having a bad hair day... My apologies. To avoid converting the entire string to UTF8 (when it's only accented chars that need it), what I have done is store the decimal/UTF8/Hex character equivalents in a customproperty, then run each element value through this encoder... function UTF8.encode tStr put numtochar(13)numtochar(10) into tCRLF set the itemDel to TAB set the caseSensitive to TRUE repeat for each char L in tStr get chartonum(L) if it=160 then get lineOffset(CRitTAB, CRthe UTF8Table of this stack) --| Get the table line if it 0 then if VCVERS=2.1 then put toUpper(item 3 of line it of the UTF8Table of this stack) after stdout --| Use UTF8 else put toUpper(item 2 of line it of the UTF8Table of this stack) after stdout --| Use HEX end if else put L after stdout end repeat replace \ with \\ in stdout replace , with \, in stdout replace ; with \; in stdout replace CR with =0D=0A in stdout --| v2.1 WAB return stdout end UTF8.encode If the above looks of interest, let me know and I'll send you the look-up table of character equivalents . /H ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-how-to-uniencode-text-for-VCard-v.-3.0---2--tp17782967p17793506.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Interface question
I would expect user wishing to see the layout before it is printed. So would put detail view and list view as options of View e.g. View -- Detail view List view And Print would simply print the current view. Best wishes! Viktoras J. Landman Gay wrote: I'm wondering how people would do this. I have two print layouts, detail and list, and the user needs to be able to print data using the layout of their choice. I can think of three ways to allow this: 1. Have two Print menu items in the File menu, like this: Print Detail View Print List View 2. I could make a submenu from the Print menu item (but I don't think I've ever seen this done before): Print - Detail View List View 3. Or I could put an option in the Preferences and Print would use whichever option was selected there. But this doesn't sound very intuitive to me, and forces the user to go to Prefs to change it each time. How would you present this, and did I miss any options? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
ScreenMouseLoc ignored in parallels?
Can anyone confirm that ScreenMouseLoc is ignored in Windows running under Parallels Desktop? I use set the screenMouseLoc to globalLoc(the location of group locator) which works fine in the Mac standalone, but does nothing on XP using Parallels Desktop. I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised, given the window within window paradigm, but I worried a bit that it might be a Rev or Windows thing masquerading as a Parallels thing. (Rev Studio 2.7.4 OS X 10.4.11 XP 2002 SP 2 Parallels Desktop 2.5) Yes I know, none of the versions are up to date. But in the case of XP this is a Good Thing ;-) Thanks David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Standalone Not Running for a Customer
A person who has bought a license for a standalone of mine is having a problem running it. Here is the note he sent. Does anyone know the answer to his problem, so I can help him? I made the program with Rev 2.1. Thanks, Tom He writes: * iMac * OS 10.4.10 * Managed user account, restricted to certain programs, no admin rights. I installed the program and I can run it fine as an admin. However, I can't give the student (non-admin) account permission to use it. It doesn't appear in the list of applications to select. If I click locate... and browse to the application and select it that way, it tells me it won't run with the limitations I've select, but it doesn't tell me the specific problem. I tried adding permissions to change system preferences and such things, but I still get the error. It seems like maybe it doesn't want to run at all for a managed user account, but I don't see why it would need admin rights to do anything it's doing. Any ideas on how I can get this to work? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Standalone Not Running for a Customer
Tom, If this is the same problem I remember from back a couple years ago, then the app bundle is missing the CFBundleIdentifier key from the info.plist file in the bundle. There was a bug in earlier versions of Rev where this key did not get added, but it has been fixed for a while now (I don't remember the version where the fix appeared). Anyway, you have two options: fix it manually, or rebuild your app with a newer version of Rev. You can fix it manually by editing the info.plist file using the Property List Editor tool (easy way) that comes with Apple's developer tools. Or you can use any editor capable of xml editing I believe (a little harder, but still not too bad). You need to add the key CFBundleIdentifier, and then a value that you specify. Usually this should be something like com.[companyname].[productname]. You could look at some other app bundle for an example. I actually have a stack that can fix the problem for you, but you would need to edit it to match your application and situation. If you're interested, I can certainly email it to you. Just let me know. If nothing else, it might give you an easier grasp on how to fix it manually. Chris On Jun 12, 2008, at 6:12 AM, Tom Cole wrote: A person who has bought a license for a standalone of mine is having a problem running it. Here is the note he sent. Does anyone know the answer to his problem, so I can help him? I made the program with Rev 2.1. Thanks, Tom He writes: * iMac * OS 10.4.10 * Managed user account, restricted to certain programs, no admin rights. I installed the program and I can run it fine as an admin. However, I can't give the student (non-admin) account permission to use it. It doesn't appear in the list of applications to select. If I click locate... and browse to the application and select it that way, it tells me it won't run with the limitations I've select, but it doesn't tell me the specific problem. I tried adding permissions to change system preferences and such things, but I still get the error. It seems like maybe it doesn't want to run at all for a managed user account, but I don't see why it would need admin rights to do anything it's doing. Any ideas on how I can get this to work? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Option Menu not working
Hello Suddenly, any new Option Menu object is not working in our project. It shows the menu, and the label is changed to the clicked selection, but the mouseup message is not received by the object, and therefore we cannot perform scripted actions. Even if we duplicate a working one, the new one does not receive the mouseup message. Any thoughts? Thank you Andres Martinez www.baKno.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Option Menu not working
Hi Andres, How did you check that your script doesn't run? Did you put a beep command right at the start ofthe hander? Why don't you use the menuPick message? Is it possible that some other object else is stealing the mouseUp message from your object? Do you have any other scripts in the menu option button? Could you post your script? Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 12 jun 2008, at 16:42, Andres Martinez wrote: Hello Suddenly, any new Option Menu object is not working in our project. It shows the menu, and the label is changed to the clicked selection, but the mouseup message is not received by the object, and therefore we cannot perform scripted actions. Even if we duplicate a working one, the new one does not receive the mouseup message. Any thoughts? Thank you Andres Martinez www.baKno.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Option Menu not working
Thanks Mark We tested it with the debugger, placing a breakpoint inside the mouseup handler. I feel like a newbie to Revolution... the menuPick message works perfectly. Thanks again, Andres Martinez www.baKno.com On Jun 12, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Andres, How did you check that your script doesn't run? Did you put a beep command right at the start ofthe hander? Why don't you use the menuPick message? Is it possible that some other object else is stealing the mouseUp message from your object? Do you have any other scripts in the menu option button? Could you post your script? Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 12 jun 2008, at 16:42, Andres Martinez wrote: Hello Suddenly, any new Option Menu object is not working in our project. It shows the menu, and the label is changed to the clicked selection, but the mouseup message is not received by the object, and therefore we cannot perform scripted actions. Even if we duplicate a working one, the new one does not receive the mouseup message. Any thoughts? Thank you Andres Martinez www.baKno.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Get a Free Copy of Revolution Media at BarCamp 2008 in Seattle, June 14-15, 2008
Hello all, If you haven't visited the Mirye Software website recently, you haven't seen that Mirye Software Publishing is a sponsor for this year's BarCamp Seattle 2008 - http://barcamp.org/BarCampSeattle BarCamp Seattle 2008 takes place June 14-15 at Adobe Conference Center, 701 N 34th St., Seattle (Fremont). What is BarCamp? BarCamp is an international network of user generated conferences - open, participatory workshop-events, whose content is provided by participants - often focusing on early-stage web applications, and related open source technologies, social protocols, and open data formats. What is BarCamp Seattle 2008 (Rated M for...Tara Brown Comments) - video by Robert Scoble (aka Scobleizer) : http://qik.com/video/99751. Watch to the end (the up from Portland reference is us!). Because of the large software community in the region, this is an event to see. Tara is one of the organizers of the Seattle event and product manager of Microsoft Office Live. An article on CNN Money explains why these conferences are such a joy to go to: http://money.cnn.com/2006/06/05/technology/business2_unconference0606/ A swag disk from us features a free copy of Valentina Community Server and a free copy of Revolution Media Edition. I am going to lead a BarCamp style discussion of Revolution - anyone in the area? We'd welcome any and all help and participation from the community. This will expose Revolution to a large number of developers and influencers in the region (listen to tara's comments). Breakfast and lunch is included, and best of all, its free. If you are in the NorthWest, come and join us! Ill be there both days. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: how to uniencode text for VCard v. 3.0? [2]
To avoid converting the entire string to UTF8 (when it's only accented chars that need it), what I have done is store the decimal/UTF8/Hex character equivalents in a customproperty, then run each element value through this encoder... [snip] Quite a few people on and off list have requested the useful char-set equivalents for decimal, Hex and UTF8. I have sent a reduced set of the common characters to all who requested, but you will find the complete char-set (from 0 to 9830) in the Scripter's Scrapbook that also includes the Print-Char, Octal, Raw, HTML-Entity and Description equivalents, along with a couple of useful web references... See CharSet: Latin-1. The Scripter's Scrapbook is free for 30 days (licence fee is modest thereafter for continued use) and is available at www.ssBk.co.uk /H ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Script sequence
Hi, all I'm if it is possibel that the sequence doesn't always go in order? Meaning e.g. In a menu if I put a script as below the label doesn't get set till the whole script isn't finished. I would understand that first the label should get its text and then the script should continue. Another instance, I have a stack with fields that gets filled with data from a database (repeat put) (with an preOpenCard) and in the first field there is an onOpenField to a popUp button which pops before the fields get filled, only after I continue with the popUp button then the fields fill up. Also very interesting is that when I go from one stack to this smaller stack With the fields filling up, the popUp, pops at Loc (put loc of me into tL) is according the starting stack and not the target stack. Very interesting. Thank in advanced on menuPick pWhich if pWhich = edit then go to card the short name of the target of stack drop_down exit menuPick end if put the short name of me into tN wait for 1 millisec --set the myText of fld tN to pWhich hDoCloseFld tN end menuPick on mouseDown put fld fi of card the short name of the target of stack drop_down return return Edit into me end mouseDown on hDoCloseFld tn put the label of btn tN into fld tN focus on fld tn send closeField to fld tn end hDoCloseFld ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
problems with the chatrev server
Hi all Unfortunately there are severe problems with the chatrev server (secondary data HD failure, unable to connect to wifi, etc.). After lots of tinkering, I can't even get the hardware to start up anymore. Because of that, the server is currently running from my production notebook, until further notice. All registered user names since the start of april have been lost, and if you register now, most likely that information will be reset again in the near future. I am sorry for any inconvenience, and will try to get things back to normal again as soon as I have slept a bit. Björnke -- official ChatRev page: http://chatrev.bjoernke.com Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL http://homepage.mac.com/bvg/chatrev1.3.rev; ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: problems with the chatrev server
I have a production linux environment you can use if you like let me know - Original Message From: Björnke von Gierke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:26:51 PM Subject: problems with the chatrev server Hi all Unfortunately there are severe problems with the chatrev server (secondary data HD failure, unable to connect to wifi, etc.). After lots of tinkering, I can't even get the hardware to start up anymore. Because of that, the server is currently running from my production notebook, until further notice. All registered user names since the start of april have been lost, and if you register now, most likely that information will be reset again in the near future. I am sorry for any inconvenience, and will try to get things back to normal again as soon as I have slept a bit. Björnke -- official ChatRev page: http://chatrev.bjoernke.com Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL http://homepage.mac.com/bvg/chatrev1.3.rev; ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: problems with the chatrev server
oh, and I told you famous last words (grin) Bert - Original Message From: Björnke von Gierke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:26:51 PM Subject: problems with the chatrev server Hi all Unfortunately there are severe problems with the chatrev server (secondary data HD failure, unable to connect to wifi, etc.). After lots of tinkering, I can't even get the hardware to start up anymore. Because of that, the server is currently running from my production notebook, until further notice. All registered user names since the start of april have been lost, and if you register now, most likely that information will be reset again in the near future. I am sorry for any inconvenience, and will try to get things back to normal again as soon as I have slept a bit. Björnke -- official ChatRev page: http://chatrev.bjoernke.com Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL http://homepage.mac.com/bvg/chatrev1.3.rev; ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Script sequence
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Hershel Fisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all I'm if it is possibel that the sequence doesn't always go in order? Meaning I may not understand your problem correctly, but part of the problem may be that you are trying to change the contents of your menu after it is already open and displayed. I don't know if Rev can do that. If possible, change your mouseDown handler to mouseEnter, I know this works as I use it all the time to update option button contents before I use them. on menuPick pWhich if pWhich = edit then go to card the short name of the target of stack drop_down exit menuPick end if put the short name of me into tN wait for 1 millisec --set the myText of fld tN to pWhich hDoCloseFld tN end menuPick Also, if you want to set myText of fld tN to pWhich, why not send it as a parameter? hDoClosedFld tN,pWhich try this on mouseEnter put fld fi of card the short name of the target of stack drop_down return return Edit into me end mouseEnter try this also on hDoCloseFld tn,pWhich put pWhich into fld tN focus on fld tn send closeField to fld tn end hDoCloseFld HTH ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Text encoding problem
Hi All, I am having a text encoding problem with data that an app is importing into an XML file. The data that's causing me problems at the moment comes form an Excel spreadsheet under Windows, but the solution has to be cross-platform. The user is pasting in a list that my app imports and some text contains an curly apostrophe: numToChar(213). The standard apostrophe is numToChar(39) and that imports perfectly into the XML. However numToChar(213) does not work correctly. It gives weird characters and in one case, where there were 2 of these characters (Windows only), it gave xml errors and wasn't able to store the data at all. In this case, I can always manually replace 213 with 39, but that is a very specific fix where I would prefer one that gave a general solution. Any ideas? Thanks, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revBrowser and multi monitors
Ended up being a bad rect. Thanks for the pointer David. -Mark On Jun 3, 2008, at 12:02 AM, David Bovill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have not had problems - are you using the global or relative rect? 2008/6/3 Mark Talluto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Anyone have any success getting revBrowswer to display flash videos on monitor 2 on a Mac system. On monitor 1 I can say: put the rect of stack browser into tRect revBrowserSet gBrowserId, rect, tRect This works just fine. When I have the browser on monitor 2, I can hear the video playing, but I can not see it. The rect is correct. Curious if anyone has run into this. Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
