Re: Emailing within Rev

2009-10-08 Thread Paul Foraker
Is there a way to use Shao Sean's smtp library to send HTML-based e-mail?

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Jan Schenkel janschen...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Chipp Walters once wrote a wrapper for Shao Sean's library. You can download 
 it from the Altuit Revolution Resources site  Downloads section:
 http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Downloads.htm
 altEmailHarness is near the bottom of the page.

___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


Re: Watch Session I of Professional Application Development With Revolution

2009-10-08 Thread Beat Cornaz

Trevor wrote:

A recording of the RunRev sponsored session of Professional
Application Development with Revolution has now been posted on our
website. The recording and other materials are available at the
following url:

http://www.bluemangolearning.com/revolution/software/revproappdev/ 
watch-session-i-organizing-for-success/



I have followed the whole 4 session course and found it extremely  
useful. Lots of problems I had been struggling with have become clear  
to me and my apps have a much more solid foundation now. All of the  
subjects which involve the code that 'surrounds' my own specific code  
have been covered in my view and by using the free 'GLX Application  
Framework' I have the foundation that I need for my apps. Trevor  
explains really well and there is plenty of room to ask questions,  
also afterwards by mail.

For me it was worth every dollar. I can highly recommend the course.

best,
Beat Cornaz

___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


Re : set the textStyle not to bold

2009-10-08 Thread Beat Cornaz

Richard wrote :

I've tried using graphics for things like that.  Seems like fun at
first, until you need to wrap across different lines.  Then you  
need to

handle different textHeights.  Then you pull out all your hair. ;)

One of the cool things about htmlText is that it's designed as the one
way to have complete fidelity for reproducing a field's contents,  
style

runs and all.

So conceivably you could add in tags for backgroundcolor of the text
runs you want visually distinct.  It can take a bit of clever  
parsing to

get it right, but check out the optional third param for the offset
function in the dictionary - it's a godsend for parsing tasks like  
this.


To see the format of htmlText, style some text in a field how you want
it and run put the htmlText of fld 1 in the Message Box.  Everything
you can do with a field can be represented in htmlText, so conversely
you can do anything to htmlText that you can do to a field.

Thanks Richard, you're right. I had come across it last night when I  
was trying it with a graphic.
I will dive into the html and use it's tags for changing the  
backColor. Great!


best,
Beat Cornaz


___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


Re-2: Emailing within Rev

2009-10-08 Thread runrev260805
As far is i know, no.

But Sarah Reichelt made a library, which is able to send html e-mails.

http://www.troz.net

The library is here http://www.troz.net/rev/stacks/SMTP_library_demo.rev

Regards,

Matthias

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Emailing within Rev (08-Okt-2009 8:53)
From:Paul Foraker paul.fora...@gmail.com
To:  runrev260...@m-r-d.de

 Is there a way to use Shao Sean's smtp library to send HTML-based e-mail?
 
 On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Jan Schenkel janschen...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Chipp Walters once wrote a wrapper for Shao Sean's library. You can 
  download it from the Altuit Revolution Resources site  Downloads section:
  http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Downloads.htm
  altEmailHarness is near the bottom of the page.
 
 ___
 use-revolution mailing list
 use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
 Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your 
 subscription preferences:
 http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
 
 
 
 
 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com


___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


another admin test

2009-10-08 Thread Heather Nagey

we'll be done with these soon I hope.

Heather Nagey
Customer Services Manager
Runtime Revolution Ltd
http://www.runrev.com
follow me on twitter
http://www.twitter.com/lainopik

___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


Perl and Revolution at OSDC.fr 2009

2009-10-08 Thread Thierry


Le 25 sept. 09 à 15:26, Trevor DeVore a écrit :

I just heard that Thierry Douez was accepted to present at OSDC.fr  
2009.
In his presentation he will be showing off the Perl/Revolution  
integration

he has been working on.

http://act.osdc.fr/osdc2009fr/talk/2399

Thierry presented his Perl external for Revolution at RunRevLive 09.


Done !

This presentation was a real success and
I had to answer a lot of questions about Revolution...
OK, mostly in the pubs but still :-)

If you are interested to know what I presented at osdc.fr
( Open Source Developer Conferences ), have a look at
http://sunnyrevcode.com/r2pbioarchimed.htm

Enjoy.
Thierry


---
Thierry Douez
... Rev2Perl, Bioarchimed
... Consulting - Development
... http://sunnyrevcode.com

___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


test again

2009-10-08 Thread Heather Nagey

maybe we're good.

Heather Nagey
Customer Services Manager
Runtime Revolution Ltd
http://www.runrev.com
follow me on twitter
http://www.twitter.com/lainopik

___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


admin test, please ignore

2009-10-08 Thread Heather Nagey

Sorry about these tests... Just checking...

Regards,

Heather

Listmom
Heather Nagey
www.runrev.com
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


Re: Perl and Revolution at OSDC.fr 2009

2009-10-08 Thread viktoras d.

Thierry, that is excellent!

Btw, I am interested in rev2perl, can I try it out somehow? Is it free 
or commercial?


All the best
Viktoras

Thierry wrote:


Le 25 sept. 09 à 15:26, Trevor DeVore a écrit :


I just heard that Thierry Douez was accepted to present at OSDC.fr 2009.
In his presentation he will be showing off the Perl/Revolution 
integration

he has been working on.

http://act.osdc.fr/osdc2009fr/talk/2399

Thierry presented his Perl external for Revolution at RunRevLive 09.


Done !

This presentation was a real success and
I had to answer a lot of questions about Revolution...
OK, mostly in the pubs but still :-)

If you are interested to know what I presented at osdc.fr
( Open Source Developer Conferences ), have a look at
http://sunnyrevcode.com/r2pbioarchimed.htm

Enjoy.
Thierry


---
Thierry Douez
... Rev2Perl, Bioarchimed
... Consulting - Development
... http://sunnyrevcode.com

___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your 
subscription preferences:

http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution



___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


Re: Rev app 'not responding' under Vista, but fine in XP

2009-10-08 Thread Martin Blackman
Thanks to Richard, Phil  Jacqueline, the 'wait 0' does the trick,
with or without messages. I just put it as the first line in my repeat
loop.
This is what I've found for those who are interested in Vista
behaviour - a stack is more predisposed to become 'not responding' in
the IDE than as a standalone. As a standalone it does not usually
become non-responsive unless there is a lot of other stuff going on;
however if windows task manager is open, my app is almost guaranteed
to become 'non-responsive' during one particular large repeat loop.
However adding a wait 0 at the start of the loop seems to do the trick
(without speed impact), I haven't been able to make it go
non-responsive with that line in there.

regards
Martin
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


Re: Perl and Revolution at OSDC.fr 2009

2009-10-08 Thread Bernard Devlin
Congratulations Thierry.  I've been considering doing something
similar myself, but with TCL instead of Perl.

Bernard


On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Thierry th.do...@gmail.com wrote:
 This presentation was a real success and
 I had to answer a lot of questions about Revolution...
 OK, mostly in the pubs but still :-)

 If you are interested to know what I presented at osdc.fr
 ( Open Source Developer Conferences ), have a look at
 http://sunnyrevcode.com/r2pbioarchimed.htm

 Enjoy.
 Thierry
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


[Ann] Bloominator

2009-10-08 Thread Roger Guay

Hi Folks,

Bloominator is tool to help educators perform a Bloom's Taxonomy  
analysis on their learning objectives, assign meaningful assessment  
methods, and output a report. The taxonomy and assessment methods are  
totally editable, so that the tool fosters good practices instead of  
being restrictive in any way. It is available here or you can go to my  
Download page.  Hope you enjoy.


Cheers,
Roger Guay
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


Re: Perl and Revolution at OSDC.fr 2009

2009-10-08 Thread Pierre Sahores

Bravo Thierry !

Pierre

Le 8 oct. 09 à 13:05, viktoras d. a écrit :


Thierry, that is excellent!

Btw, I am interested in rev2perl, can I try it out somehow? Is it  
free or commercial?


All the best
Viktoras

Thierry wrote:


Le 25 sept. 09 à 15:26, Trevor DeVore a écrit :

I just heard that Thierry Douez was accepted to present at OSDC.fr  
2009.
In his presentation he will be showing off the Perl/Revolution  
integration

he has been working on.

http://act.osdc.fr/osdc2009fr/talk/2399

Thierry presented his Perl external for Revolution at RunRevLive 09.


Done !

This presentation was a real success and
I had to answer a lot of questions about Revolution...
OK, mostly in the pubs but still :-)

If you are interested to know what I presented at osdc.fr
( Open Source Developer Conferences ), have a look at
http://sunnyrevcode.com/r2pbioarchimed.htm

Enjoy.
Thierry


---
Thierry Douez
... Rev2Perl, Bioarchimed
... Consulting - Development
... http://sunnyrevcode.com

___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your  
subscription preferences:

http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution



___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your  
subscription preferences:

http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution



--
Pierre Sahores
mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70

www.wrds.com
www.sahores-conseil.com






___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


Re: Emailing within Rev

2009-10-08 Thread Shao Sean
Is there a way to use Shao Sean's smtp library to send HTML-based e- 
mail?


The SMTP library is strictly to use SMTP, but I do have a companion  
MIME encoding library that will encode HTML files to be properly sent  
through SMTP.. I finished a re-write of it a couple weeks back and  
will do further testing and release it shortly..



___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


Re: Emailing within Rev

2009-10-08 Thread Malte Pfaff-Brill

S. wrote:

 will do further testing and release it shortly

Go! *whip* *sqeal* g

Can not wait to see it.

Cheers,

Malte
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


[Teaser] WeCode Planet

2009-10-08 Thread Andre Garzia
Folks,
since we all like to be teased every now and then, let me share what I've
been working during my lunch time, as some of you know, during lunch, I just
work on free projects.

So, take a look at a very alpha version of WeCode Planet at:

http://wecode.org/planet/

WeCode.Org is my umbrella domain where I will share things common to Rev
education. The planet subsite is a metablog that collects posts from other
blogs in a convenient place. This is just an alpha right now, there will be
a public API and a form for adding new sites.

Hope you guys like

Cheers
andre

-- 
http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code.
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


Menus

2009-10-08 Thread DunbarX
Slowly getting menus to work.

In a large HC stack of mine, the menuItems of a single menu called 
doStuff changes depending on which card I am on. Same name, different 
menuItems. 
In practice, as I navigate, I could delete and recreate the menu and its 
menuItems, or I could simply change the menuItems themselves (and of course 
their menuMessages).

In Rev, is there a preferred way to do this? Do you make a new group for 
each card, and set the menuBar property? Or change the contents within a 
single group (I am not even sure how to do this) as you navigate?

Thanks...

Craig Newman
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


Re: [Ann] Bloominator

2009-10-08 Thread Tereza Snyder


On Oct 8, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Roger Guay wrote:


Hi Folks,

Bloominator is tool to help educators perform a Bloom's Taxonomy  
analysis on their learning objectives, assign meaningful assessment  
methods, and output a report. The taxonomy and assessment methods  
are totally editable, so that the tool fosters good practices  
instead of being restrictive in any way. It is available here or you  
can go to my Download page.  Hope you enjoy.



Hi Roger,

Where is that download page again?

t



--
Tereza Snyder
Califex Software, Inc.
www.califexsoftware.com




___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


Re: Menus

2009-10-08 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:39 AM,  dunb...@aol.com wrote:
 Slowly getting menus to work.

 In a large HC stack of mine, the menuItems of a single menu called
 doStuff changes depending on which card I am on. Same name, different 
 menuItems.
 In practice, as I navigate, I could delete and recreate the menu and its
 menuItems, or I could simply change the menuItems themselves (and of course
 their menuMessages).

 In Rev, is there a preferred way to do this? Do you make a new group for
 each card, and set the menuBar property? Or change the contents within a
 single group (I am not even sure how to do this) as you navigate?

Have a mouseDown handler in the menubar group itself (there is a
button in the Menu manager to edit this script), and in that handler,
work out what card you are on and change the menuItems accordingly.
Remember that menus are really only buttons and the menuItems are the
contents of that button, so you just need to say:
put newItems into btn doStuff

You could have a custom property with the same name on each card that
contains the list of menuItems, so then you would not need to even
check which card you were on, but just have:
put the cMenuContents of this card into btn doStuff

The script of the doStuff menu button will have to have the code to
handle all the possible options.

Cheers,
Sarah
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


Using a player instead of an image

2009-10-08 Thread Sarah Reichelt
As has been discussed before, there is a problem with image objects on
OS X if the image they are trying to display is wider than about 4000
pixels.
BUT a player object will display these wide images without any problems.

So is there anything I should know before I change to using players
instead of images?
They seems to respond in the same way to clicks, I can get the
formatted height  width, and if I don't show the controller, then the
players look just like images.

Cheers,
Sarah
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


Re: Using a player instead of an image

2009-10-08 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Sarah,

Formattedheight and -width don't work correctly if the player is  
hidden or if a stack is being opened and the players is being loaded  
before the stack window is visible.


There are problems with visual effects.

There are lots of problems with putting objects over player objects.

MouseClicks may not work.

Usually, if you try to solve one of these problems, another problem  
arises.


I hate your idea. I need a bucket now.

--
Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
http://economy-x-talk.com

Submit your software at http://www.quickestpublisher.com

On 9 okt 2009, at 01:48, Sarah Reichelt wrote:


As has been discussed before, there is a problem with image objects on
OS X if the image they are trying to display is wider than about 4000
pixels.
BUT a player object will display these wide images without any  
problems.


So is there anything I should know before I change to using players
instead of images?
They seems to respond in the same way to clicks, I can get the
formatted height  width, and if I don't show the controller, then the
players look just like images.

Cheers,
Sarah


___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


Re: Emailing within Rev

2009-10-08 Thread George C Brackett
Hi, Shao - I'm hoping you might know how I might approach adding SSL  
support to your SMTP library or to Sarah's. I've spent some time on  
it, and have emailed with Sarah, but have had no breakthroughs.  Even  
a simple log of the conversation between client and server making a  
basic SSL connection would be helpful. Thanks for any pointers!


George

On Oct 8, 2009, at 5:37 PM, Shao Sean wrote:

Is there a way to use Shao Sean's smtp library to send HTML-based e- 
mail?


The SMTP library is strictly to use SMTP, but I do have a companion  
MIME encoding library that will encode HTML files to be properly sent  
through SMTP.. I finished a re-write of it a couple weeks back and  
will do further testing and release it shortly..



___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your  
subscription preferences:

http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


Re: Perl and Revolution at OSDC.fr 2009

2009-10-08 Thread capellan

Hi Thierry,

Congratulations for this great achievement!

Since ever, I have believed that is in the best interest
of this platform (and all of us) to develop ways of
intercomunication with other programming languages,
like Perl, Python or Java.

When will you publish benchmarks of the overhead
of processing data (text, numerical or binary) inside
rev compared with processing the same data within
a Perl function?

Thanks in advance!

Keep up your great good work.

al 
-- 
View this message in context: 
http://www.nabble.com/Perl-and-Revolution-at-OSDC.fr-2009-tp25616682p25813688.html
Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


Applying the concept of Images libraries (vector and bitmaps )

2009-10-08 Thread capellan

Hi all,

Recently, i have been advising some fellow teachers about
using revMedia to create educational content.

One of the most frequent request that i found, is the
possibility of reusing images (vector and bitmaps) across
different stacks and reusing the same images in the one
stack with variations in size, ink effects, inside groups, etc,
without including the same images several times, to achieve
the desired effect.

Notice that Graphics software, like Adobe Ilustrator, Flash
and Xara have implemented this concept:
http://www.jnack.com/adobe/flash/symbols.html

How could we implement this concept with our stacks,
so there is not need to import the same bitmaps or
vector graphics to apply different effects or dimensions
in different cards?

Thanks in advance!

al
-- 
View this message in context: 
http://www.nabble.com/Applying-the-concept-of-Images-libraries-%28vector-and-bitmaps-%29-tp25813844p25813844.html
Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


Re: Applying the concept of Images libraries (vector and bitmaps )

2009-10-08 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, capellan wrote:

 One of the most frequent request that i found, is the
 possibility of reusing images (vector and bitmaps) across
 different stacks and reusing the same images in the one
 stack with variations in size, ink effects, inside groups, etc,
 without including the same images several times, to achieve
 the desired effect.
 
 Notice that Graphics software, like Adobe Ilustrator, Flash
 and Xara have implemented this concept:
 http://www.jnack.com/adobe/flash/symbols.html
 
 How could we implement this concept with our stacks,
 so there is not need to import the same bitmaps or
 vector graphics to apply different effects or dimensions
 in different cards?

One way to implement symbols with images is (ironically) by using buttons or
graphics: set the icon of a button or the backPattern of a graphic to the id
of an image.  This effectively allows you to have one source image in your
stack that is referenced in multiple places; changing the source image will
cause all references to the source to update.

If one can live with external files, the fileName property is another way to
implement symbolic references for images.

For graphics, the only roundabout way I can think of implementing some kind
of symbolic reference is by retrieving properties of a source graphic and
applying the properties to a reference graphic.  Obviously, this is not a
true symbolic connection, but rather a klunky workaround.

The really phenomenal aspect of symbols in Flash comes into play via
distortions: in most cases, if you distort a symbol on the stage, say by
adjusting its dimensions, skew, angle, or some other property, then
replacing that symbol with another symbol causes the newly replaced symbol
to inherit the modifications of the original symbol.  In my view, this is a
seriously powerful feature of Adobe's symbol implementation that would be
great to see in Rev.

For myself, I believe there are more pressing items desperately needed, such
as sub-pixel positioning of objects and irregular distortion of images.

FWIW.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia  Design


___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


Re: Using a player instead of an image

2009-10-08 Thread Sarah Reichelt
 Formattedheight and -width don't work correctly if the player is hidden or
 if a stack is being opened and the players is being loaded before the stack
 window is visible.

Not a problem for my app.

 There are problems with visual effects.

Again, not a problem for my app.

 There are lots of problems with putting objects over player objects.

I don't need to do this.


 MouseClicks may not work.

This could be a real problem.


 Usually, if you try to solve one of these problems, another problem arises.

 I hate your idea. I need a bucket now.

LOL - didn't mean to make you ill.

So if using players is such a bad idea, what else? People have
suggested other work-arounds for trimming the imageData, but they are
all too slow or produce images that aren't what I want, so the player
object was the only workable option that I had managed to find so far
:-(

Sarah
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


Re: Applying the concept of Images libraries (vector and bitmaps )

2009-10-08 Thread capellan

Hi Scott,

Many thanks for answering this request.

How do you handle the particular case,
where the same image is used in different
cards using varied ink effects and sizes?

Why is important sub-pixel positioning
and imge distortions?

Thanks in advance!

al



Scott Rossi wrote:
 
 One way to implement symbols with images is (ironically) by using buttons
 or
 graphics: set the icon of a button or the backPattern of a graphic to the
 id
 of an image.  This effectively allows you to have one source image in
 your
 stack that is referenced in multiple places; changing the source image
 will
 cause all references to the source to update.
 
 If one can live with external files, the fileName property is another way
 to
 implement symbolic references for images.
 
 For graphics, the only roundabout way I can think of implementing some
 kind
 of symbolic reference is by retrieving properties of a source graphic and
 applying the properties to a reference graphic.  Obviously, this is not a
 true symbolic connection, but rather a klunky workaround.
 
 The really phenomenal aspect of symbols in Flash comes into play via
 distortions: in most cases, if you distort a symbol on the stage, say by
 adjusting its dimensions, skew, angle, or some other property, then
 replacing that symbol with another symbol causes the newly replaced symbol
 to inherit the modifications of the original symbol.  In my view, this is
 a
 seriously powerful feature of Adobe's symbol implementation that would be
 great to see in Rev.
 
 For myself, I believe there are more pressing items desperately needed,
 such
 as sub-pixel positioning of objects and irregular distortion of images.
 
 FWIW.
 
 Regards,
 
 Scott Rossi
 Creative Director
 Tactile Media, Multimedia  Design
 

-- 
View this message in context: 
http://www.nabble.com/Applying-the-concept-of-Images-libraries-%28vector-and-bitmaps-%29-tp25813844p25814407.html
Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


Re: Applying the concept of Images libraries (vector and bitmaps )

2009-10-08 Thread Richard Gaskin

capellan wrote:


Recently, i have been advising some fellow teachers about
using revMedia to create educational content.

One of the most frequent request that i found, is the
possibility of reusing images (vector and bitmaps) across
different stacks and reusing the same images in the one
stack with variations in size, ink effects, inside groups, etc,
without including the same images several times, to achieve
the desired effect.

Notice that Graphics software, like Adobe Ilustrator, Flash
and Xara have implemented this concept:
http://www.jnack.com/adobe/flash/symbols.html

How could we implement this concept with our stacks,
so there is not need to import the same bitmaps or
vector graphics to apply different effects or dimensions
in different cards?


Everything is smoke and mirrors with software.  When Illustrator makes a 
symbol it's still a copy, but maintains a reference to some source 
object from which its properties are derived.


With Rev, we have:

   set the properties of obj to the properties of obj

You can also modify the properties array - for example, this will assign 
the properties of one button to those of anothe but allow the 
destination object to keep its own name, label, and rect:


on mouseUp
  put the properties of btn aaa into tObjA
  delete var tObjA[label]
  delete var tObjA[name]
  delete var tObjA[rect]
  set the properties of btn bbb to tObjA
end mouseUp


--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World
 Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com
 Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com
 revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


Re: Applying the concept of Images libraries (vector and bitmaps )

2009-10-08 Thread J. Landman Gay

capellan wrote:

Hi Scott,

Many thanks for answering this request.

How do you handle the particular case,
where the same image is used in different
cards using varied ink effects and sizes?


You can apply different inks and sizes to several image objects that use 
the same file reference on disk. That way you have one reference image 
on the hard drive, and many different images that reference it, each 
with their own variations. You don't have to do anything special, just 
create a new image object on the card, set its file reference, and apply 
any ink and sizing you want.


--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution


Re: Applying the concept of Images libraries (vector and bitmaps )

2009-10-08 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, capellan wrote:

 How do you handle the particular case,
 where the same image is used in different
 cards using varied ink effects and sizes?

I haven't had to do this.  If you need to scale/affect an instance of the
image, I suppose you could follow the method of the graphic symbol hack: use
a source image and an instance image, and manually script something like
put img mySource into img myInstance.  This way you can tweak the instance
image separately from the source image.  As soon as you run the previous
script, though, the instance will take on the characteristics of the source,
but if the instance is locked, it will stay scaled.


 Why is important sub-pixel positioning
 and imge distortions?

Sub-pixel positioning will improve the results of object rotation and
movement because currently these actions are somewhat coarse -- rotating a
dial, for example, jumps around because the 1 pixel resolution in Rev is not
fine enough to produce smooth rotation.

Irregular image distortion would us to better create effects like page
turns, cover flow/carousel effects, and simulate 3D manipulation of images.
There is currently no way to create these kind of effects natively within
Rev -- you need to create a series of frame images outside of Rev that are
pre-distorted.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia  Design



___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution