Re: matchChunk works?

2009-11-16 Thread paolo mazza

Thanks a lot. 


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OT: Urgent, how to force eject a CD from MacBook

2009-11-16 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello,

 

need urgent help. I was burning a CD in my Mac Book but canceled the job
while running.

Now the CD can't be ejected anymore, it turns, but neither with the eject
button, nore from within  liquid app it can be ejected.

I have booted twice, while booting, the CD turns but can not be ejected

Is there any emergency hardware trick to eject a not recognizable CD?

Thanks for any quick help

Tiemo

 

 

 

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Re: OT: Urgent, how to force eject a CD from MacBook

2009-11-16 Thread Richmond Mathewson

Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:

Hello,

 


need urgent help. I was burning a CD in my Mac Book but canceled the job
while running.

Now the CD can't be ejected anymore, it turns, but neither with the eject
button, nore from within  liquid app it can be ejected.

I have booted twice, while booting, the CD turns but can not be ejected

Is there any emergency hardware trick to eject a not recognizable CD?

Thanks for any quick help

Tiemo

  

Try, while restarting, holding down COMMAND + E.
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AW: OT: Urgent, how to force eject a CD from MacBook

2009-11-16 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Noop, the CD turns, the Mac trys to read it, but doesn't eject it.
Thanks for any other idea? Any brute force?
Tiemo

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 An: How to use Revolution
 Betreff: Re: OT: Urgent, how to force eject a CD from MacBook
 
 Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
  Hello,
 
 
 
  need urgent help. I was burning a CD in my Mac Book but canceled the job
  while running.
 
  Now the CD can't be ejected anymore, it turns, but neither with the
 eject
  button, nore from within  liquid app it can be ejected.
 
  I have booted twice, while booting, the CD turns but can not be ejected
 
  Is there any emergency hardware trick to eject a not recognizable CD?
 
  Thanks for any quick help
 
  Tiemo
 
 
 Try, while restarting, holding down COMMAND + E.
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Re: OT: Urgent, how to force eject a CD from MacBook

2009-11-16 Thread Sarah Reichelt
 need urgent help. I was burning a CD in my Mac Book but canceled the job
 while running.

 Now the CD can't be ejected anymore, it turns, but neither with the eject
 button, nore from within  liquid app it can be ejected.

 I have booted twice, while booting, the CD turns but can not be ejected

 Is there any emergency hardware trick to eject a not recognizable CD?


Reboot while holding down the mouse button.
If that doesn't work, look inside the slot and see if there is a notch
at either end for a straightened paper clip to push in and work the
eject mechanism manually.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: Printing faxing

2009-11-16 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Hershel Fisch hersh...@syp2u4c.com wrote:
 Hi every body, I have an urge to create a front end for hylafax+ Fax server,
 I¹d like to know from the print dialog how  to save a pdf to Rev on osx? Or
 from a generic print driver how or if there is a possibility to print to a
 Rev exe. File?

You can use the printerOutput property to direct printing. On OS X,
this allows you to print to a PDF.

I don't understand your second question. A Rev exe file is an
application. Printing to an exe wouldn't work and would not produce
anything that could that could then be used.

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Re: OT: Urgent, how to force eject a CD from MacBook

2009-11-16 Thread Jacques Hausser
Another possibility: in case of problem, it is frequently possible to eject a 
disc from the disk utility. 

good luck !

Jacques

Le 16 nov. 2009 à 11:28, Sarah Reichelt a écrit :

 need urgent help. I was burning a CD in my Mac Book but canceled the job
 while running.
 
 Now the CD can't be ejected anymore, it turns, but neither with the eject
 button, nore from within  liquid app it can be ejected.
 
 I have booted twice, while booting, the CD turns but can not be ejected
 
 Is there any emergency hardware trick to eject a not recognizable CD?
 
 
 Reboot while holding down the mouse button.
 If that doesn't work, look inside the slot and see if there is a notch
 at either end for a straightened paper clip to push in and work the
 eject mechanism manually.
 
 Cheers,
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AW: OT: Urgent, how to force eject a CD from MacBook

2009-11-16 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Sarah,
holding down the mouse, didn't worked.
The slot in my Mac Book has such a kind of a felt curtain and I can't see
behind the curtain, where a notch could be, I don't want to push into the
blind and perhaps destroy anything. Do you have an idea, where the noth is
exactly located and how deep it is?
Thanks
Tiemo

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 An: How to use Revolution
 Betreff: Re: OT: Urgent, how to force eject a CD from MacBook
 
  need urgent help. I was burning a CD in my Mac Book but canceled the job
  while running.
 
  Now the CD can't be ejected anymore, it turns, but neither with the
 eject
  button, nore from within  liquid app it can be ejected.
 
  I have booted twice, while booting, the CD turns but can not be ejected
 
  Is there any emergency hardware trick to eject a not recognizable CD?
 
 
 Reboot while holding down the mouse button.
 If that doesn't work, look inside the slot and see if there is a notch
 at either end for a straightened paper clip to push in and work the
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AW: OT: Urgent, how to force eject a CD from MacBook

2009-11-16 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Jacques,
MERCI MERCI BEAUCOUP!!! You saved not only my day, you saved my week!
Thank you!
Tiemo

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 An: How to use Revolution
 Betreff: Re: OT: Urgent, how to force eject a CD from MacBook
 
 Another possibility: in case of problem, it is frequently possible to
 eject a disc from the disk utility.
 
 good luck !
 
 Jacques
 
 Le 16 nov. 2009 à 11:28, Sarah Reichelt a écrit :
 
  need urgent help. I was burning a CD in my Mac Book but canceled the
 job
  while running.
 
  Now the CD can't be ejected anymore, it turns, but neither with the
 eject
  button, nore from within  liquid app it can be ejected.
 
  I have booted twice, while booting, the CD turns but can not be ejected
 
  Is there any emergency hardware trick to eject a not recognizable CD?
 
 
  Reboot while holding down the mouse button.
  If that doesn't work, look inside the slot and see if there is a notch
  at either end for a straightened paper clip to push in and work the
  eject mechanism manually.
 
  Cheers,
  Sarah
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Releasing a commercial revweb site

2009-11-16 Thread Richard Miller
I'm within a week of releasing a fairly extensive commercial revweb 
project, which will immediately have traffic in the thousands (based on 
my existing Rev software and user database). I'm feeling a little 
uncertain about this, given the state of the plugin (which mostly works 
quite well). I've only tested my program on XP and Firefox so far, but 
will do much more thorough testing this week, including asking folks 
here to help in the testing process.


One concern I have is that the plugin will likely be upgraded again soon 
(in a week?... two weeks?... unknown)... meaning all my users will have 
to reinstall it which means downloading the new version, shutting 
down their browser, installing the new plugin, then restarting. Yes, 
they have to do this with other well known plugins, but will they be 
concerned that this process will be all-too-frequent with the Rev 
plugin? And for that matter, what am I even telling them about a 
revweb-based site? Am I telling them to essentially ignore the security 
concerns (I use every permission, other than the registry)?


Will there be problems with other configurations of an OS and browser? I 
hope to find this out shortly, but what if they have a somewhat older 
version of a browser? There's been so little revweb real-world 
experience to date.


Anyone else on the verge of taking this leap? Or better yet, has anyone 
else already made the leap? Any particular thoughts on this matter?


Thanks.
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Moving a point above a line

2009-11-16 Thread René Micout

Hello, this is my problem :
I have a line (grc RacineTest2) and a point (grc Mèche)
My goal is to move independently many points above many lines... So  
the move command is not a solution because it stop a point during the  
move of another point...
I have test 3 solutions : A = send in x milliseconds, C = wait 0  
milliseconds and command, D = command without wait.
A and C are too slow (the speed must be adjust by a slider : very  
fast, fast, slow, very slow, etc.), D is too fast (movement is  
invisible and not adjustable by slider).


simplificated script (otherwise too long to be post)

global tableaudesPoints

on mouseUp
here : creation of an array of all points of grc  
RacineTest2 (a line) named tableaudesPoints 

   put 1 into lePoint
   set the loc of grc Mèche to tableaudesPoints[lePoint]
   déplacementMèche lePoint
end mouseUp

on déplacementMèche lePoint
   if the commandkey is down then exit to top
   put lePoint + 1 into lePoint
   set the loc of grc Mèche to tableaudesPoints[lePoint]
   -- send déplacementMèche lePoint,diag to me in 0 milliseconds  
-- SOLUTION A

   -- wait 0 milliseconds -- SOLUTION B
   déplacementMèche lePoint,diag -- SOLUTION C (B+C) / SOLUTION D (C  
only)

end déplacementMèche

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Re: Moving a point above a line

2009-11-16 Thread Alejandro Tejada

Hi René,

Could you post a small stack sample?

In the meanwhile, visit the site of Scott Rossi:
http://www.tactilemedia.com/site_files/software/tutorials.html

From my site, download:
http://www.capellan2000.000space.com/walkingman_2.zip
http://www.capellan2000.000space.com/walkingman_Rossi.zip

Surely, in the code of these stacks, you will find many hints
to solve the task that you are facing. Feel free to ask the How's
and Why's of the code of in stacks.

Have a nice day!

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Re: Moving a point above a line

2009-11-16 Thread René Micout

Hello Alejandro,
Thank you, I try it
René

Le 16 nov. 09 à 14:41, Alejandro Tejada a écrit :



Hi René,

Could you post a small stack sample?

In the meanwhile, visit the site of Scott Rossi:
http://www.tactilemedia.com/site_files/software/tutorials.html


From my site, download:

http://www.capellan2000.000space.com/walkingman_2.zip
http://www.capellan2000.000space.com/walkingman_Rossi.zip

Surely, in the code of these stacks, you will find many hints
to solve the task that you are facing. Feel free to ask the How's
and Why's of the code of in stacks.

Have a nice day!

Alejandro

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Re: Moving a point above a line

2009-11-16 Thread Malte Pfaff-Brill

Bonjour René,

I hope you do not mind the shameless plug.

I quickly whipped up a revLet how this could be done with  
animationEngine: http://derbrill.on-rev.com/ae3/movePoly.html


The stack is here: http://derbrill.on-rev.com/ae3/movePolygonalTest.rev

All the best,

Malte

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Re: Releasing a commercial revweb site

2009-11-16 Thread Andre Garzia
Richard,

I would wait some more, try conducting a beta test with a selected group of
users, pick 50 or something and see if it works for them, if you just launch
the site with no focus group test, if risk a huge support issue.

Andre

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:

 I'm within a week of releasing a fairly extensive commercial revweb
 project, which will immediately have traffic in the thousands (based on my
 existing Rev software and user database). I'm feeling a little uncertain
 about this, given the state of the plugin (which mostly works quite well).
 I've only tested my program on XP and Firefox so far, but will do much more
 thorough testing this week, including asking folks here to help in the
 testing process.

 One concern I have is that the plugin will likely be upgraded again soon
 (in a week?... two weeks?... unknown)... meaning all my users will have to
 reinstall it which means downloading the new version, shutting down
 their browser, installing the new plugin, then restarting. Yes, they have to
 do this with other well known plugins, but will they be concerned that this
 process will be all-too-frequent with the Rev plugin? And for that matter,
 what am I even telling them about a revweb-based site? Am I telling them to
 essentially ignore the security concerns (I use every permission, other than
 the registry)?

 Will there be problems with other configurations of an OS and browser? I
 hope to find this out shortly, but what if they have a somewhat older
 version of a browser? There's been so little revweb real-world experience to
 date.

 Anyone else on the verge of taking this leap? Or better yet, has anyone
 else already made the leap? Any particular thoughts on this matter?

 Thanks.
 Richard Miller


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Re: Moving a point above a line

2009-11-16 Thread Alejandro Tejada

Hi Malte,

This is a great demo stack! Thanks for sharing. :-)

Actually, if Rene project's allows, i wholeheartly
recommend that he adquires Malte's library.

Although it might sounds obvious, but the most important
is that you will have access to support from Malte's
experience for your project.

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Re: Releasing a commercial revweb site

2009-11-16 Thread Edward D Lavieri Jr

Hi Richard,

I recently took this leap, but on a smaller scale. Even after thorough  
local testing on multiple PC and Mac operating systems, my client had  
problems. This taught me to wait until well after the first non-beta  
release. Once things are truly stable, I will dip my feet back in  
these waters. Until then, I am using other development environments.


We only get one chance at first impressions.

Ed


On Nov 16, 2009, at 5:55 AM, Richard Miller wrote:

I'm within a week of releasing a fairly extensive commercial revweb  
project, which will immediately have traffic in the thousands (based  
on my existing Rev software and user database). I'm feeling a little  
uncertain about this, given the state of the plugin (which mostly  
works quite well). I've only tested my program on XP and Firefox so  
far, but will do much more thorough testing this week, including  
asking folks here to help in the testing process.


One concern I have is that the plugin will likely be upgraded again  
soon (in a week?... two weeks?... unknown)... meaning all my users  
will have to reinstall it which means downloading the new  
version, shutting down their browser, installing the new plugin,  
then restarting. Yes, they have to do this with other well known  
plugins, but will they be concerned that this process will be all- 
too-frequent with the Rev plugin? And for that matter, what am I  
even telling them about a revweb-based site? Am I telling them to  
essentially ignore the security concerns (I use every permission,  
other than the registry)?


Will there be problems with other configurations of an OS and  
browser? I hope to find this out shortly, but what if they have a  
somewhat older version of a browser? There's been so little revweb  
real-world experience to date.


Anyone else on the verge of taking this leap? Or better yet, has  
anyone else already made the leap? Any particular thoughts on this  
matter?


Thanks.
Richard Miller


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Re: Releasing a commercial revweb site

2009-11-16 Thread Richard Miller

Andre,

Thanks for your thoughts. Are you suggesting to wait for another version 
(or two) of the plugin, or wait until I've seen how it goes with a group 
of users. or both?


Richard




Andre Garzia wrote:

Richard,

I would wait some more, try conducting a beta test with a selected group of
users, pick 50 or something and see if it works for them, if you just launch
the site with no focus group test, if risk a huge support issue.

Andre

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:

  

I'm within a week of releasing a fairly extensive commercial revweb
project, which will immediately have traffic in the thousands (based on my
existing Rev software and user database). I'm feeling a little uncertain
about this, given the state of the plugin (which mostly works quite well).
I've only tested my program on XP and Firefox so far, but will do much more
thorough testing this week, including asking folks here to help in the
testing process.

One concern I have is that the plugin will likely be upgraded again soon
(in a week?... two weeks?... unknown)... meaning all my users will have to
reinstall it which means downloading the new version, shutting down
their browser, installing the new plugin, then restarting. Yes, they have to
do this with other well known plugins, but will they be concerned that this
process will be all-too-frequent with the Rev plugin? And for that matter,
what am I even telling them about a revweb-based site? Am I telling them to
essentially ignore the security concerns (I use every permission, other than
the registry)?

Will there be problems with other configurations of an OS and browser? I
hope to find this out shortly, but what if they have a somewhat older
version of a browser? There's been so little revweb real-world experience to
date.

Anyone else on the verge of taking this leap? Or better yet, has anyone
else already made the leap? Any particular thoughts on this matter?

Thanks.
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Re: Releasing a commercial revweb site

2009-11-16 Thread Richard Miller

Hi Ed,

What kind of problems did you encounter? This could be very helpful info.

Thanks.
Richard



Edward D Lavieri Jr wrote:

Hi Richard,

I recently took this leap, but on a smaller scale. Even after thorough 
local testing on multiple PC and Mac operating systems, my client had 
problems. This taught me to wait until well after the first non-beta 
release. Once things are truly stable, I will dip my feet back in 
these waters. Until then, I am using other development environments.


We only get one chance at first impressions.

Ed


On Nov 16, 2009, at 5:55 AM, Richard Miller wrote:

I'm within a week of releasing a fairly extensive commercial revweb 
project, which will immediately have traffic in the thousands (based 
on my existing Rev software and user database). I'm feeling a little 
uncertain about this, given the state of the plugin (which mostly 
works quite well). I've only tested my program on XP and Firefox so 
far, but will do much more thorough testing this week, including 
asking folks here to help in the testing process.


One concern I have is that the plugin will likely be upgraded again 
soon (in a week?... two weeks?... unknown)... meaning all my users 
will have to reinstall it which means downloading the new 
version, shutting down their browser, installing the new plugin, then 
restarting. Yes, they have to do this with other well known plugins, 
but will they be concerned that this process will be all-too-frequent 
with the Rev plugin? And for that matter, what am I even telling them 
about a revweb-based site? Am I telling them to essentially ignore 
the security concerns (I use every permission, other than the registry)?


Will there be problems with other configurations of an OS and 
browser? I hope to find this out shortly, but what if they have a 
somewhat older version of a browser? There's been so little revweb 
real-world experience to date.


Anyone else on the verge of taking this leap? Or better yet, has 
anyone else already made the leap? Any particular thoughts on this 
matter?


Thanks.
Richard Miller


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Re: csv parser

2009-11-16 Thread Chris Sheffield
Great. Thanks, Alex. This will definitely come in handy. Point taken about 
using tabs vs. commas as the delimiter. That would be my preference too, but 
I'm not sure I have control in this case. We'll see.

Thanks again,
Chris


On Nov 13, 2009, at 4:04 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:

 Chris Sheffield wrote:
 Wow, it's been a while since I've posted to the list. I first have to say 
 congratulations to the Rev team on the release of Rev 4.0. I've been using 
 it for a couple days now, and it's looking great.
 
 I was wondering if anyone out there has written a csv parsing library in Rev 
 and would be willing to share it. I'm in need of something that will 
 read/write values to a csv file. I'll create my own if I have to, but 
 obviously it would save me a ton of time if I don't have to.
 
  
 Not exactly a library, but there was a fairly extensive thread back in 
 October 2004 about the perils of the various forms of csv file, and it 
 included a couple of handlers to read in csv files - I think there was a very 
 readable and straightforward one from Richard Gaskin, and later there was a 
 very efficient (but significantly more complex and obscure) version from me, 
 at
 
 http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2004-October/045495.html
 
 If you have any control at all, I'd recommend TSV (i.e. TAB Separated Values 
 rather than Comma SVs).
 
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Re: Releasing a commercial revweb site

2009-11-16 Thread Edward D Lavieri Jr

Hi Richard,

My client had browser / plug-in problems. He is not computer savvy, so  
he needed a super simple solution. We live in different states, so it  
was difficult to help him troubleshoot. He was never able to get the  
plug-in to work in IE or FireFox. I tested both of those browsers  
without fail.


I quickly gave him a standalone version to mitigate his frustration.  
Because of this, I never got to the core of his problem, which was  
probably simple. It was more important for me to get him what he  
needed fast rather than spend precious time troubleshooting something  
that should be seamless. I think we loose credibility when things do  
not work the first time.


Ed

On Nov 16, 2009, at 9:26 AM, Richard Miller wrote:


Hi Ed,

What kind of problems did you encounter? This could be very helpful  
info.


Thanks.
Richard



Edward D Lavieri Jr wrote:

Hi Richard,

I recently took this leap, but on a smaller scale. Even after  
thorough local testing on multiple PC and Mac operating systems, my  
client had problems. This taught me to wait until well after the  
first non-beta release. Once things are truly stable, I will dip my  
feet back in these waters. Until then, I am using other development  
environments.


We only get one chance at first impressions.

Ed


On Nov 16, 2009, at 5:55 AM, Richard Miller wrote:

I'm within a week of releasing a fairly extensive commercial  
revweb project, which will immediately have traffic in the  
thousands (based on my existing Rev software and user database).  
I'm feeling a little uncertain about this, given the state of the  
plugin (which mostly works quite well). I've only tested my  
program on XP and Firefox so far, but will do much more thorough  
testing this week, including asking folks here to help in the  
testing process.


One concern I have is that the plugin will likely be upgraded  
again soon (in a week?... two weeks?... unknown)... meaning all my  
users will have to reinstall it which means downloading the  
new version, shutting down their browser, installing the new  
plugin, then restarting. Yes, they have to do this with other well  
known plugins, but will they be concerned that this process will  
be all-too-frequent with the Rev plugin? And for that matter, what  
am I even telling them about a revweb-based site? Am I telling  
them to essentially ignore the security concerns (I use every  
permission, other than the registry)?


Will there be problems with other configurations of an OS and  
browser? I hope to find this out shortly, but what if they have a  
somewhat older version of a browser? There's been so little revweb  
real-world experience to date.


Anyone else on the verge of taking this leap? Or better yet, has  
anyone else already made the leap? Any particular thoughts on this  
matter?


Thanks.
Richard Miller


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Re: Moving a point above a line

2009-11-16 Thread René Micout

Hello Malte,
A question about the new animationEngine 3 :
Is it possible to use aeMoveto for move independently many graphics  
in the same time (different loc, different speed, etc.) ?

René

Le 16 nov. 09 à 15:18, Malte Pfaff-Brill a écrit :


Bonjour René,

I hope you do not mind the shameless plug.

I quickly whipped up a revLet how this could be done with  
animationEngine: http://derbrill.on-rev.com/ae3/movePoly.html


The stack is here: http://derbrill.on-rev.com/ae3/ 
movePolygonalTest.rev


All the best,

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Re: Releasing a commercial revweb site

2009-11-16 Thread Andre Garzia
Richard,

it pays to be wise and patient. In doubt wait for both. Check with your
group of users first, if problems arise, then wait longer. RevWeb is just
starting, there's a lot of room for improvements.

Andre

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:

 Andre,

 Thanks for your thoughts. Are you suggesting to wait for another version
 (or two) of the plugin, or wait until I've seen how it goes with a group of
 users. or both?

 Richard





 Andre Garzia wrote:

 Richard,

 I would wait some more, try conducting a beta test with a selected group
 of
 users, pick 50 or something and see if it works for them, if you just
 launch
 the site with no focus group test, if risk a huge support issue.

 Andre

 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:



 I'm within a week of releasing a fairly extensive commercial revweb
 project, which will immediately have traffic in the thousands (based on
 my
 existing Rev software and user database). I'm feeling a little uncertain
 about this, given the state of the plugin (which mostly works quite
 well).
 I've only tested my program on XP and Firefox so far, but will do much
 more
 thorough testing this week, including asking folks here to help in the
 testing process.

 One concern I have is that the plugin will likely be upgraded again soon
 (in a week?... two weeks?... unknown)... meaning all my users will have
 to
 reinstall it which means downloading the new version, shutting down
 their browser, installing the new plugin, then restarting. Yes, they have
 to
 do this with other well known plugins, but will they be concerned that
 this
 process will be all-too-frequent with the Rev plugin? And for that
 matter,
 what am I even telling them about a revweb-based site? Am I telling them
 to
 essentially ignore the security concerns (I use every permission, other
 than
 the registry)?

 Will there be problems with other configurations of an OS and browser? I
 hope to find this out shortly, but what if they have a somewhat older
 version of a browser? There's been so little revweb real-world experience
 to
 date.

 Anyone else on the verge of taking this leap? Or better yet, has anyone
 else already made the leap? Any particular thoughts on this matter?

 Thanks.
 Richard Miller


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Re: csv parser

2009-11-16 Thread Dom
Chris Sheffield cmsheffi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great. Thanks, Alex. This will definitely come in handy. Point taken about
 using tabs vs. commas as the delimiter. That would be my preference too,
 but I'm not sure I have control in this case. We'll see.

I must add that here in France -- and certainly in other european
contries, where the comma is used as a decimal separator -- the
so-called csv format use a _semicolon_ as a delimiter ;-


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Learning about GLOBALS late in life . . .

2009-11-16 Thread Richmond Mathewson

tried this:

on mouseDown
  global LEFTT, TOPP
  put the top of fld acre into TOPP
  put the left of fld acre into LEFTT
  grab me
  end mouseDown

on mouseUp
  put the bottom of fld acre into DOWP
  put the right of fld acre into RITE
  put RITE - LEFTT into WIDD
  put DOWP - TOPP into HITE
end mouseUp

and the third line within the 'on mouseUp'
threw a bluey

??
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Re: Learning about GLOBALS late in life . . .

2009-11-16 Thread Jacques Hausser
Richmond

If the globals are defined in a handler, they must be defined in each handler 
using them...
if you define them at the script level, no problem

Jacques
Le 16 nov. 2009 à 17:53, Richmond Mathewson a écrit :

 tried this:
 
 on mouseDown
  global LEFTT, TOPP
  put the top of fld acre into TOPP
  put the left of fld acre into LEFTT
  grab me
  end mouseDown
 
 on mouseUp
  put the bottom of fld acre into DOWP
  put the right of fld acre into RITE
  put RITE - LEFTT into WIDD
  put DOWP - TOPP into HITE
 end mouseUp
 
 and the third line within the 'on mouseUp'
 threw a bluey
 
 ??
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Re: Learning about GLOBALS late in life . . .

2009-11-16 Thread Colin Holgate

On Nov 16, 2009, at 11:53 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

 
 and the third line within the 'on mouseUp'
 threw a bluey

Either put the global thing in each handler, or just once at the top. So this 
would work for example:

global t

on mousedown
   put random(100) into t
end mousedown

on mouseup
   put t
end mouseup



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Setting Stack Externals on Mac

2009-11-16 Thread Jim Bufalini
Hello,

Can someone give me the code for setting the externals of a stack on a Mac
Standalone? On PC it is:

put (PathToTheExternalsDir  slash  Externals  slash 
ExternalName.dll  cr) after tExternals
set the externals of this stack to tExternals

On Mac there is an ExternalName.bundle which in turn has a Contents
folder which in turn has MacOS folder, which in turn has an ExternalName
file. Is it this file that needs to be pointed to or something higher up the
path?

Aloha from Hawaii

Jim Bufalini

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Re: Learning about GLOBALS late in life . . .

2009-11-16 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond-

Monday, November 16, 2009, 9:00:46 AM, Colin wrote:

 top. So this would work for example:

 global t

...but do you really want to do that? This would also work...

local LEFTT, TOPP

on mouseDown
   put the top of fld acre into TOPP
   put the left of fld acre into LEFTT
   grab me
   end mouseDown

on mouseUp
   put the bottom of fld acre into DOWP
   put the right of fld acre into RITE
   put RITE - LEFTT into WIDD
   put DOWP - TOPP into HITE
end mouseUp

...without the drawback of having LEFTT and TOPP sitting around in
memory until you close the IDE and possibly interfering with variables
in other stacks.

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Re: Learning about GLOBALS late in life . . .

2009-11-16 Thread Colin Holgate

On Nov 16, 2009, at 12:22 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:

 global t
 
 ...but do you really want to do that?


Yes, definitely, if it's part of an answer to a question about making globals 
work. Now, Richmond may well want to learn about locals too, but I was just 
answering the question he asked!


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Re: Learning about GLOBALS late in life . . .

2009-11-16 Thread Richmond Mathewson

Mark Wieder wrote:

Richmond-

Monday, November 16, 2009, 9:00:46 AM, Colin wrote:

  

top. So this would work for example:



  

global t



...but do you really want to do that? This would also work...

local LEFTT, TOPP

  

Thanks for that one; especially going local.

What a great Use-list; almost always somebody willing to help
extremely quickly . . .  :)
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Re: Moving a point above a line

2009-11-16 Thread René Micout
Sorry Malte, but I have the response when I read the Animation Engine  
présentation...

I have purchase Animation Engine, I think I can continue in a best way
Bons souvenirs de Paris
René

Le 16 nov. 09 à 17:11, René Micout a écrit :


Hello Malte,
A question about the new animationEngine 3 :
Is it possible to use aeMoveto for move independently many graphics  
in the same time (different loc, different speed, etc.) ?

René

Le 16 nov. 09 à 15:18, Malte Pfaff-Brill a écrit :


Bonjour René,

I hope you do not mind the shameless plug.

I quickly whipped up a revLet how this could be done with  
animationEngine: http://derbrill.on-rev.com/ae3/movePoly.html


The stack is here: http://derbrill.on-rev.com/ae3/ 
movePolygonalTest.rev


All the best,

Malte

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Re: Setting Stack Externals on Mac

2009-11-16 Thread Thierry D .


Le 16 nov. 09 à 18:22, Jim Bufalini a écrit :


Hello,

Can someone give me the code for setting the externals of a stack  
on a Mac

Standalone? On PC it is:



Have a look at runrev lessons.
Trevor did a nice lesson about this.

HTH,

Thierry

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Re: Printing faxing

2009-11-16 Thread Hershel Fisch
Hi and thanks,
to elaborate on my question, there are several programs that communicate
with the print dialog , 4 sight fax, the user opens a doc clicks print,
selects the 4SightFax printer, clicks print and the document opens up in the
4sightFax application, the user can repeat as desired for multiple doc's
then clicks the fax btn, a number dialog opens enters a number and off it
goes.
There is another application called fax center works a little different,
the user opens a doc goes down to the bottom clicks the pdf btn selects fax
center (all files are seen in the fax center app.as a lst) can repeat as
desired then clicks fax and the same zoom.(osx and single user only).
Mail pdf happens the same the doc opens in an email program.
So my question is how do I imitate the same thing with a rev standalone?
Now on win., there is no pdf as on the osx so it has to be done from a print
driver (or some other way unknown to me) to convert a file to a print format
to enable the stand alone to send it to the fax server.

Thanks a mill., Hershel
 


On 11/16/09 2:32 AM, Sarah Reichelt sarah.reich...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Hershel Fisch hersh...@syp2u4c.com wrote:
 Hi every body, I have an urge to create a front end for hylafax+ Fax server,
 I¹d like to know from the print dialog how  to save a pdf to Rev on osx? Or
 from a generic print driver how or if there is a possibility to print to a
 Rev exe. File?
 
 You can use the printerOutput property to direct printing. On OS X,
 this allows you to print to a PDF.
 
 I don't understand your second question. A Rev exe file is an
 application. Printing to an exe wouldn't work and would not produce
 anything that could that could then be used.
 
 Cheers,
 Sarah
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RE: Setting Stack Externals on Mac

2009-11-16 Thread Jim Bufalini
Thanks Thierry,

It was actually your lesson that I was looking for as I don't want the
external attached to the standalone and from your code example I see that
you point to the .bundle folder.

Aloha from Hawaii,

Jim Bufalini

 -Original Message-
 From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-
 boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Thierry D.
 Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 7:35 AM
 To: How to use Revolution
 Subject: Re: Setting Stack Externals on Mac
 
 
 Le 16 nov. 09 à 18:22, Jim Bufalini a écrit :
 
  Hello,
 
  Can someone give me the code for setting the externals of a stack
  on a Mac
  Standalone? On PC it is:
 
 
 Have a look at runrev lessons.
 Trevor did a nice lesson about this.
 
 HTH,
 
 Thierry
 
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Re: Learning about GLOBALS late in life . . .

2009-11-16 Thread Mark Wieder
Colin-

Monday, November 16, 2009, 9:29:30 AM, you wrote:

 Yes, definitely, if it's part of an answer to a question about
 making globals work. Now, Richmond may well want to learn about
 locals too, but I was just answering the question he asked!

g

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Re: Learning about GLOBALS late in life . . .

2009-11-16 Thread Richmond Mathewson

Colin Holgate wrote:

On Nov 16, 2009, at 12:22 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:

  

global t
  

...but do you really want to do that?




Yes, definitely, if it's part of an answer to a question about making globals 
work. Now, Richmond may well want to learn about locals too, but I was just 
answering the question he asked!

  


Touchy!

Actually, Colin, your advice about globals was more correct insofar as 
it answered my question,


but Mark's was pedagogically more useful as I had 'forgotten' about locals

[ the truth of it is that ever since I discovered Hypercard and escaped 
from the joys
of variable declaration (think BASIC, FORTRAN, PASCAL) I was unaware (or 
unwilling
to think about the fact) that variables could be declared in xTalk 
languages. Today,

mucking around with something that had to stay there between 2 handlers a
little bird at the back of my head started tweeting 'global' - it didn't 
tweet 'local']


Big Thanks to both of you.
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Re: Learning about GLOBALS late in life . . .

2009-11-16 Thread Colin Holgate

On Nov 16, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

 
 but Mark's was pedagogically more useful as I had 'forgotten' about locals


I always strive to be pedagogically less useful.

Interestingly, I knew the answer not from knowing Rev, and certainly not 
HyperCard (which doesn't work that way with variables), but from Lingo. In 
Director you can do the same kind of thing, both with global variables and with 
property variables.


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Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 74, Issue 28

2009-11-16 Thread Malte Pfaff-Brill

René á ecrit:


Hello Malte,
A question about the new animationEngine 3 :
Is it possible to use aeMoveto for move independently many graphics
in the same time (different loc, different speed, etc.) ?


Hi, yes that is possible. If you want them to start synchronously, you  
might wish to do an aeLockMoves before and an aeUnlockMoves after you  
have send the aeMoveTo commands. With aeMoveTo, you specify how long  
the move should take. It always moves the object from its current  
position to a new location.
syntax is: aeMoveTo long ID of control or stack you want to  
move,destination x,destination y,duration in millisecs,[easing effect]


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Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 74, Issue 28

2009-11-16 Thread René Micout

local M1,M2,pointArrivée1,pointArrivée2

on mouseUp
   get the points of grc RacineTest
   put line 1 of it into pointDépart1
   put line 2 of it into pointArrivée1
   set the loc of grc Mèche to pointDépart1
   put the long ID of grc Mèche into M1
   get the points of grc RacineTest2
   put line 2 of it into pointArrivée2
   aeMoveTo M1,pointArrivée1,5000
end mouseUp

on aeMoveDone
   aeMoveTo M1,pointArrivée2,5000
end aeMoveDone

I think the trap of aeMoveDone is not correct because that don't  
work (the mouseUp work well !)

I wish M1 go on line 2 after finish line 1

René

Le 16 nov. 09 à 19:49, Malte Pfaff-Brill a écrit :
syntax is: aeMoveTo long ID of control or stack you want to  
move,destination x,destination y,duration in millisecs,[easing effect]

Hope that helps,
Malte

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aeMoveDone (was:use-revolution Digest, Vol 74, Issue 28)

2009-11-16 Thread Malte Pfaff-Brill

René,

aeMoveDone is sent to the moving object, not to the script that called  
aeMoveTo. So if you trap it at card level (or in the control itself)  
it will work.
Also rememeber to check for the position you arrived at, as aeMoveDone  
will be sent after every aeMoveTo has finished.


e.g. if you move the script to card level:

local M1,M2,pointArrivée1,pointArrivée2
on mouseUp
if the short name of the target   
theNameOfTheContolThatShouldStartIt then

pass mouseUp
end if
get the points of grc RacineTest
put line 1 of it into pointDépart1
put line 2 of it into pointArrivée1
set the loc of grc Mèche to pointDépart1
put the long ID of grc Mèche into M1
get the points of grc RacineTest2
put line 2 of it into pointArrivée2
aeMoveTo M1,pointArrivée1,5000
end mouseUp

on aeMoveDone
if the loc of M1pointArrivée2 then
aeMoveTo M1,pointArrivée2,5000
end if
end aeMoveDone

Hope that helps,

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Re: Resizeable Fields

2009-11-16 Thread Richmond Mathewson

Sivakatirswami wrote:

Before I go re-inventing the wheel,
has anyone invented user re-sizeable fields?

I suppose sticky palette with the Select and Browse
tools could also work , but not as cool as some mousedown/drag
event...

if so, can you post the code here?

(I'm watching with interest all the open source discussions...we 
really, really need a single respository somewhere!)


skts




I, finally, did it today, after a lot of fiddling around:

http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/STUFF/GF2.rev.zip

Not terribly attractive: have a poke around in the, clunky, code.

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.
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How to do this in a Revlet? thread Part 3

2009-11-16 Thread Alejandro Tejada

Hi all,

Now is my turn to ask for insights to implement
this swf effect in a revlet:

http://www.magictoolbox.com/magicmagnify/

Notice how smoothly the masked image move
along with the circle in this page.

Actually, i have tried to recreate this effect
using Scott Rossi's stack named spotlight,
but results are choppy and i do not get right
the image scale neither.

Download this test from:

http://capellan2000.000space.com/ScottRossi_spotlight_v2.zip

Thanks in advance.

Alejandro


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Video See what our customers think of Rev!

2009-11-16 Thread Alejandro Tejada

Hi All,

I just watch the video See what our customers think of Rev!
http://runrev.com/#TB_inline?height=485width=690inlineId=hiddenVideo5

I could recognize some faces, but not all. :-)
Could you post the names of the persons featured in
this video in their presentation order?

Thanks in advance!

Alejandro
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Re: aeMoveDone (was:use-revolution Digest, Vol 74, Issue 28)

2009-11-16 Thread René Micout

That work !
Thank you Malte
René

Le 16 nov. 09 à 20:22, Malte Pfaff-Brill a écrit :


local M1,M2,pointArrivée1,pointArrivée2
on mouseUp
if the short name of the target   
theNameOfTheContolThatShouldStartIt then

pass mouseUp
end if
get the points of grc RacineTest
put line 1 of it into pointDépart1
put line 2 of it into pointArrivée1
set the loc of grc Mèche to pointDépart1
put the long ID of grc Mèche into M1
get the points of grc RacineTest2
put line 2 of it into pointArrivée2
aeMoveTo M1,pointArrivée1,5000
end mouseUp

on aeMoveDone
if the loc of M1pointArrivée2 then
aeMoveTo M1,pointArrivée2,5000
end if
end aeMoveDone


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revVideoGrabber on Vista and Windows 7

2009-11-16 Thread Neil Allan
Has anyone had any success using the revVideoGrabber  on windows 7? When I try 
to initialize an instance of it I only get a white screen where my webcam image 
should be. The stack works ok on xp, and I don't have vista to try it. I know 
that Video For windows is pretty much obsolete nowadays but is there any plan 
to use directshow instead of VFW in the future?
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Safari caches revlet

2009-11-16 Thread Jim Lambert
Anyone know of a way to force Safari to reload a revlet other than emptying the 
cache?
When I upload a new version of a revlet, Firefox dutifully loads the new 
version, but Safari insists on using a cached version.

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Re: Safari caches revlet

2009-11-16 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Jim Lambert wrote:

 Anyone know of a way to force Safari to reload a revlet other than emptying
 the cache?
 When I upload a new version of a revlet, Firefox dutifully loads the new
 version, but Safari insists on using a cached version.

Not sure if this is possible, but the same issue happens over here with
Flash, and the way I get around it is to load the URL of the acutal SWF file
in the browser and hit refresh (then return to the HTML page).  This has
worked every time for me with SWFs, but I don't know if you can do the same
a Revlet stack.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia  Design


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Re: Safari caches revlet

2009-11-16 Thread Brian Yennie
One common technique if you want to force a new version to be loaded  
is to use a cache busting URL to the Revlet in your HTML. Just add a  
query string to the end, and change it to reflect a new version.


myrevlet.rev === myrevlet.rev?v=1.0 === myrevlet.rev?v=2.0  etc.

From then on, whenever you update the Revlet, just change the query  
string on the end. New URL = fresh copy.


Of course, keep in mind that if your Revlet is hosted on a static  
page, you've just pushed the caching issue up the ladder one rung.  
Thus it will need to be on a dynamic page which could be accomplished  
with OnRev hosting or really any other scripting solution (PHP, Perl,  
client-side Javascript, etc).


Another variation would be to append a fine-grained time stamp -- thus  
causing a reload every time. There are also a multitude of ways to do  
this using HTTP headers, but I find the URL tricks a lot easier to  
control.


Anyone know of a way to force Safari to reload a revlet other than  
emptying the cache?
When I upload a new version of a revlet, Firefox dutifully loads the  
new version, but Safari insists on using a cached version.


Thanks,


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[ANN] tText now available for PC as well as Mac

2009-11-16 Thread Jerry Daniels
tText - take control of your text with the world's first text editor  
to use Revolution stacks as plugins.


You heard all about it on Friday, and now it's also available starting  
today for proud owners of PCs as well as Macs.


http://reveditor.com/tag/ttext

Best,

Jerry Daniels

The latest Rev Editor Video:
http://reveditor.com/feature-friday-part-3-extend-ttext-with-plugi
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Re: [ANN] tText now available for PC as well as Mac

2009-11-16 Thread David Coker


You heard all about it on Friday, and now it's also available starting  
today for proud owners of PCs as well as Macs.

http://reveditor.com/tag/ttext

I'm ready... just point me to the download. :)

David C.
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Re: [ANN] tText now available for PC as well as Mac

2009-11-16 Thread Jerry Daniels

David,

I've sent you emails with the download info. Let me know if you have  
not gotten them.


Best,

Jerry Daniels

The latest Rev Editor Video:
http://reveditor.com/feature-friday-part-2-ttext-a-super-text-edit


On Nov 16, 2009, at 8:50 PM, David Coker wrote:




You heard all about it on Friday, and now it's also available  
starting

today for proud owners of PCs as well as Macs.

http://reveditor.com/tag/ttext


I'm ready... just point me to the download. :)

David C.
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Text to speech synched to video

2009-11-16 Thread revolution
I need to have a text file read using the system's text to speech engine
and have it synched to a video. No talking heads just description of the
activity in the video but there would be periods where no speech is
required, in other words, intermitent speech timed to the video. Along the
lines of the old text tracks in QuickTime but what I want is speech
tracks. Does such a thing exist? Anyone have any ideas on how I might go
about  accomplishing this? To complicate things it needs to run on
Windows, and OSX. Linux would be nice but not critical.

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Re: [ANN] tText now available for PC as well as Mac

2009-11-16 Thread David Coker
David,

I've sent you emails with the download info. Let me know if you have  
not gotten them.

Best,

Jerry Daniels

Hello Jerry,
Just double checked my inbox ( spam filters), found nothing there other than 
the original download links pointing to the Mac versions.

Wait! Scratch that.. just got the link.
Thanks! :)
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[ANN] tText - a text editor you extend with Revolution plugins

2009-11-16 Thread Jerry Daniels
NOTE: I meant to post this on Friday and seem to have failed. Don't  
want to be annoying, but having a text editor you can extend with  
Revolution is something many of us have wanted. So here's the post I  
meant to make...


There's the post on our blog with the video showing our new text  
editor, tText's--and its Plugin Manager:


http://reveditor.com/feature-friday-part-3-extend-ttext-with-plugi

I especially like the segment in this Feature Friday (Nov 13) video  
where the plugin places its results in a new tab! It's my fav feature— 
and requires only a one line call to the tText API.


What you saw in the video is true: you can write your own plugin  
extensions to our great new text editor tText—do it right in  
Revolution! And there's a handy Plugin Manager that makes the process  
painless and super easy. It even opens your plugin in Rev for you.  
Just put tText next to the version of Rev you want to use.


Check this out:
- Create, delete, rename and launch your plugin in Revolution via the  
Plugin Manager.

- Add any existing stack to tText and start using it as a plugin, too!
- Reorder your plugins via drag-and-drop to change the way they appear  
in tText's Plugins menu.
- You get two sample plugins with the product. Code open and easy to  
mod.


Remember:
- plugins are separate stacks—not substacks of the tText app.
- Plugins are individual stack files residing in a folder.
- Even the Plugin Manager is a plugin!

Best,

Jerry Daniels

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http://reveditor.com/feature-friday-part-2-ttext-a-super-text-edit



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Re: Text to speech synched to video

2009-11-16 Thread Phil Davis

Hi -

Conceptually this isn't hard at all. Here's how it could work:

  1. Create a callback list for the movie. (Look up callbacks in the
 docs. The callbacks is a player property.) A callback list is a
 set of lines where each line contains two items: a movie time
 reference and the name of the handler to be called at that time.
  2. Organize your text so each read segment is on a line by itself.
  3. Create a handler to be called by the callbacks, that uses the
 revSpeak command to read the next line of a set of text lines.


Here's some prototype code (not tested, probably over-simplified):

The callbacks player property:

   500,readNextLine
   1155,readNextLine
   2306,readNextLine


I'm assuming the text to be read is brought into a local variable before 
the movie starts. Because of that, all the following code should be in 
the same script:


-- start of code 

local vMovieText

on playStarted
  put the uMovieText of this stack into vMovieText
  revLoadSpeech
end playStarted

on readNextLine
  revSpeak line 1 of vMovieText
  wait until revIsSpeaking() = false with messages
  delete line 1 of vMovieText
end readNextLine

on playStopped
  revUnloadSpeech
end playStopped

-- end of code -

I think that's about all you would need if you do it this way, and there 
are no doubt other ways. At any rate it gives you a starting point.


Phil Davis


revolut...@duncansoftware.on-rev.com wrote:

I need to have a text file read using the system's text to speech engine
and have it synched to a video. No talking heads just description of the
activity in the video but there would be periods where no speech is
required, in other words, intermitent speech timed to the video. Along the
lines of the old text tracks in QuickTime but what I want is speech
tracks. Does such a thing exist? Anyone have any ideas on how I might go
about  accomplishing this? To complicate things it needs to run on
Windows, and OSX. Linux would be nice but not critical.


--
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PDS Labs
Professional Software Development
http://pdslabs.net

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