Re: [ANN] RunRev Community Linux Distro

2010-02-04 Thread Pierre Sahores
Fantastic at least and so friendlt too ! Thanks Andre. Will go to the  
shop and catch a new eeepc to test some apps in using it ;-)


Best Regards,

P.

Le 5 févr. 10 à 07:40, Richmond Mathewson a écrit :


On 05/02/2010 00:18, viktoras d. wrote:

Cool!

Now you/we need some work on a website with wording and structure  
like Ubuntu website i.e. a little of PR to make it as popular and  
as well known ;-). I am looking forward for the release of the  
liveCD.


All the best!
Viktoras

Yes, I will download when the live CD comes up. . . fantastic work,  
Andre!



Andre Garzia wrote:

Hello Folks,

This was quick!

Move your browsers to http://andregarzia.com/revlinux/ and check  
it out. So
far I just put the VMWare Image out, the other images and LiveCD  
will follow
shortly. This is a SuSe based distro with revEnterprise,  
revStudio, MySQL,
PostgreSQL, Apache2, RevOnRockets installed. I created this from  
our emails
yesterday till today, so it is a bit rough. I will polish it more  
if there's

interest.

Please, tell me what you think

http://andregarzia.com/revlinux/

:D

Cheers
andre



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Re: [ANN] RunRev Community Linux Distro

2010-02-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson

On 05/02/2010 00:18, viktoras d. wrote:

Cool!

Now you/we need some work on a website with wording and structure like 
Ubuntu website i.e. a little of PR to make it as popular and as well 
known ;-). I am looking forward for the release of the liveCD.


All the best!
Viktoras


Yes, I will download when the live CD comes up. . . fantastic work, Andre!



Andre Garzia wrote:

Hello Folks,

This was quick!

Move your browsers to http://andregarzia.com/revlinux/ and check it 
out. So
far I just put the VMWare Image out, the other images and LiveCD will 
follow
shortly. This is a SuSe based distro with revEnterprise, revStudio, 
MySQL,
PostgreSQL, Apache2, RevOnRockets installed. I created this from our 
emails
yesterday till today, so it is a bit rough. I will polish it more if 
there's

interest.

Please, tell me what you think

http://andregarzia.com/revlinux/

:D

Cheers
andre



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Re: iPadding around? Video glasses (OT)

2010-02-04 Thread Kay C Lan
Marian,

Whilst I'm sure 'effective' LCD 3D goggles would effect sales of massive
home LCD TVs, I'm not sure what it's effect on mobile devices would be -
other than make them more popular. Without goggles one of the attractions of
the iPad must be screen size, but this is not only as an output, but is also
advantageous as an input device. I've been amazed at what people have been
able to do with the iPhone, so it will be interesting to see what iPad adds
to the table.

Just off the top of my head I could think the same 'tilt' technology could
be incorporated into Apple's iSee goggles (you read it here first) to
produce an amazing simulation set up. In medicine for instance, looking
forward you could see a 3D magnified image of the brain, whilst tilting your
head and looking down, you'd see an image of the iPad, with representations
of where your fingers were resting on the screen where the controls for
adjusting magnification, navigation, or even bring up a menu to pick another
organ to inspect.

Not only that, I can't see too many people wearing goggles to read an eBook
whilst they commute to work on the subway. You wont see the small white well
dressed nearing retirement age lady* approaching, who snatches your goggles
and runs.

*to avoid offending most on the List I've taken the politically correct
stance of avoiding any racially or sexually stereotypical references to my
subway mugger.

To the well-heeled sexagenarian Caucasoid petite females who commute to
Lower Manhattan, Sorry.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Petrides, M.D. Marian <
mpetri...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> mated to a pair of LCD 3D compatible goggles + earphones.
>
> Oooh I love the idea!  Video glasses that not only simulate a
> 50 inch screen but also do HD 3G.  Now THAT I could go for!!
>
> But, then I'm not sure where the iPad would fit into this schema, since
>  the video glasses should obviate the need for a video screen and could just
> as easily be used with an iPod nano as video source. Oh, well...
>
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Re: [ANN] RunRev Community Linux Distro

2010-02-04 Thread Andre Garzia
Viktoras,

Lol, the objective is not to win over ubuntu or any other linux, it is just
to provide an environment to test and develop in revolution. I've made the
LiveCD although I have not tested it, it is on the website, you can fetch it
from there and tell me if it works or not.

Cheers
andre

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:18 PM, viktoras d.  wrote:

> Cool!
>
> Now you/we need some work on a website with wording and structure like
> Ubuntu website i.e. a little of PR to make it as popular and as well known
> ;-). I am looking forward for the release of the liveCD.
>
> All the best!
> Viktoras
>
>
>
>
> Andre Garzia wrote:
>
>> Hello Folks,
>>
>> This was quick!
>>
>> Move your browsers to http://andregarzia.com/revlinux/ and check it out.
>> So
>> far I just put the VMWare Image out, the other images and LiveCD will
>> follow
>> shortly. This is a SuSe based distro with revEnterprise, revStudio, MySQL,
>> PostgreSQL, Apache2, RevOnRockets installed. I created this from our
>> emails
>> yesterday till today, so it is a bit rough. I will polish it more if
>> there's
>> interest.
>>
>> Please, tell me what you think
>>
>> http://andregarzia.com/revlinux/
>>
>> :D
>>
>> Cheers
>> andre
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [ANN] RunRev Community Linux Distro

2010-02-04 Thread Andre Garzia
Peter,

I am using Amazon S3 service to host the files, let us see how high it gets
before me crying for help but I expect to pay like 10 USD or something for
the bandwidth.

Cheers
andre

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Peter Alcibiades <
palcibiades-fi...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Andre, should you not move it to ibiblio or someplace?  Or maybe Rev can
> provide hosting?   Or perhaps someone on the list has ideas.  We must not
> let you get hit for bandwidth for this.
>
> Peter
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Re: [ANN] RunRev Community Linux Distro

2010-02-04 Thread Andre Garzia
Folks,

I've just added a USB Stick image and a LiveCD.

http://andregarzia.com/revlinux

Cheers
andre

On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Andre Garzia  wrote:

> Hello Alejandro,
>
> I am using a SuSe based solution instead of a debian one, it is easier to
> build, point and click. As for RevWeb on OLPC, so far, there's no RevWeb or
> RevMedia for Linux so we can't test. :-/
>
> Cheers
> andre
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Alejandro Tejada 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Great news! :-D
>>
>> I hope that you found time to create
>> Live CDs for some small Debian-based and
>> Slackware-based distributions:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions
>>
>> Keep up your great work!
>>
>> Alejandro
>>
>> P.D. Does RevMedia works in OLPC computers?
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Re: [ANN] RunRev Community Linux Distro

2010-02-04 Thread Andre Garzia
Hello Alejandro,

I am using a SuSe based solution instead of a debian one, it is easier to
build, point and click. As for RevWeb on OLPC, so far, there's no RevWeb or
RevMedia for Linux so we can't test. :-/

Cheers
andre

On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Alejandro Tejada wrote:

>
> Great news! :-D
>
> I hope that you found time to create
> Live CDs for some small Debian-based and
> Slackware-based distributions:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions
>
> Keep up your great work!
>
> Alejandro
>
> P.D. Does RevMedia works in OLPC computers?
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Re: ANN: Hinduism Today Navigator - Alpha Test Open

2010-02-04 Thread Sivakatirswami
Amazing... we are all mac users here and somehow a recent change broke 
the site on IE.


Working on it... some crazy thing where if there is an https link on a 
non-secure page, IE this the whole page should be secured.


You can just download Hinduism Today Navigator directly from these links.

http://www.hinduismtoday.com/digital/navigator/HTNavMacAlpha.zip

http://www.hinduismtoday.com/digital/navigator/HTNavWinAlpha.zip



Matthias Rebbe wrote:

Dear  Sivakatirswami,

your provided link opens fine here in Firefox, but with IE8 under vista, the 
link opens , i can see the text for a short time and then the main text 
dissapears.

Please see the attached picture, how the website looks.

Regards,

Matthias


 Original Message 
Subject: ANN:  Hinduism Today Navigator - Alpha Test Open (04-Feb-2010 6:41)
From:Sivakatirswami 
To:  improve-revolution-010...@m-r-d.de

  

Namaste, Aloha and "Oi" from Kauai, Hawaii and Niteroi, Brazil:

Hinduism Today and Andre Garzia are happy to announce that the latest 
incarnation of Hinduism Today Digital Edition has been released under a 
new name:


Hinduism Today Navigator

I want to thank both Andre for his hard work on this and Trevor DeVore 
for the brilliant additions to our RunRev world, the data grid, SQL yoga 
and GLX that Andre used to build this and RunRev for the new graphic 
effects which finally make people say "Wow, it's beautiful!"  And to 
Jerry Daniels for making development process with tRev, so "sweet".


We would like anyone who has time to hammer hard on this one:

http://www.hinduismtoday.com/modules/wfchannel/index.php?wfc_cid=29

FYI: this is a broadband product (free)  We bundle a lot of content with 
the standalone, for a 30MB download, after that, online line 
transactions are small unless you ask for a  PDF.


Send any "no holds barred" feedback  to

ka...@hindu.org
an...@andregarzia.com

Sorry, no Linux version: our media player requires Flash to run inside 
the RevBrowser window.


I'm calling this a beta version but Andre prefers "alpha" -- in case you 
find any bugs then we can just say:


"Well, its an alpha version after all... " (smile)

but in house tests on 8 different Macs and 10 different Windows users 
all look good so we are widening the test group to include all RunRev'ers.


All the best from Chilly Kauai. When I went for a swim in the Wailua 
this morning, air was about 54 and the water 65... that's about as cold 
as it gets here.


Thank you for taking the time to try it out.

Sivakatirswami

ps. Is anyone seeing the 20 pixel "menu shift" bug? appears as a strip 
of background at the bottom of the stack/card that should not be there.


And if anyone is connecting through a proxy, we would like to know that 
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Re: [ANN] RunRev Community Linux Distro

2010-02-04 Thread Alejandro Tejada

Great news! :-D

I hope that you found time to create
Live CDs for some small Debian-based and
Slackware-based distributions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions

Keep up your great work!

Alejandro

P.D. Does RevMedia works in OLPC computers?
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RE: little OT: Did anyone from Germany receive the Conference DVDset, yet?

2010-02-04 Thread Jim Bufalini
Sarah wrote:

> I guess there is no need to expect mine to arrive in Australia yet, if
> they haven't even made it to Germany...

And, if it's coming around the other way, you should know they haven't hit
Hawaii yet either. ;-)

Aloha from Hawaii,

Jim Bufalini

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Re: little OT: Did anyone from Germany receive the Conference DVDset, yet?

2010-02-04 Thread J. Landman Gay

Sarah Reichelt wrote:

is there  anyone from germany here on the list, who has already  received
the Conference DVD set ?

I guess there is no need to expect mine to arrive in Australia yet, if
they haven't even made it to Germany...

Well, someone I know in California got his set. It takes longer to ship to
Australia though, because they have to hire someone to hold onto the
packages to keep them from falling out of the plane when they fly upside
down.



Not true... we have highly trained koalas to do that.


I'll definitely add this to my trivia file. Of course, it would take 
some time to send them to Scotland to get the stuff.


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RE: Windows 'run as administrator' property of standalone.

2010-02-04 Thread Jim Bufalini
David Glasgow wrote

> Whilst trying to solve a problem of a customer, I noticed that on
> Vista, a standalone can have a 'run as administrator' property set,
> which presumably does what it says on the tin.  My recollection is that
> Pre Vista this was a property which could be set on a shortcut, but not
> the standalone itself.
> 
> I was wondering whether setting this before distribution might reduce
> the occasional permissions problems which arise.  I was also slightly
> worried that user levels can apparently be so readily overridden by an
> executable, and also that there may be unforeseen (by me) adverse
> consequences if I set this flag before distribution.
> 
> So, should I or shouldn't I?

Personally I wouldn't recommend it because depending on the user's level and
how the UAC is set up on their system, they could be prompted, EVERY single
time they launch your app as to whether or not to allow the app to run.
Also, if your app is designed to auto launch on boot (or login of a user),
it will get relegated to a "blocked startup programs" icon in the System
Tray and the user will have to right-click on the icon and select your app
and say run and then they will still get the security dialog asking them to
allow the app to run. Better to just address any security issues you become
aware of directly.

Aloha from Hawaii,

Jim Bufalini


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RE: on-rev queries

2010-02-04 Thread Jim Bufalini
Bob Sneidar wrote:
 
> My fix of always connecting at the beginning of every script that needs
> access, and disconnecting at the end of every script that made the
> connection works for now. It's probably better to do this anyway... 

I think I commented on this thread early on saying I never saw this problem,
although I was not creating and dropping parts of the schema from Rev. But
when I saw your "fix" I quickly realized that because I was using irev
scripts to connect to the DBs and irev scripts are not persistent, it is
necessary for me to connect to the DB each time. So, of course, I wouldn't
have the same experience as you. The other thing I might note that I noticed
is that when you use irev scripts and connecting each time at the beginning
of the irev script, the irev (Rev DB) connection ID is always "1"

Aloha from Hawaii,

Jim Bufalini

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Re: Getting data from a secure web page

2010-02-04 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Trevor DeVore
 wrote:
> On Feb 3, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:
>
>> Thanks for all this Trevor. I installed your custom libURL fine thanks.
>>
>> It now redirects but it doesn't get me where I want, instead I get:
>> You must be logged in with a parent account to
>> access this functionality.
>
> If the login info is being stored in a cookie can you watch the libURL log
> and see if the cookies are being sent along with the redirect?


Yes, they are, but then it seems to go round in circles, POSTing again
then another 2 GETs before getting the error message.
But I've just tried again and this time I did get the data, so I am
very puzzled. I'll have to test it over days and see if I can work out
why it works sometimes & not others.

Many thanks,
Sarah
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RE: on-rev queries

2010-02-04 Thread Jim Bufalini
Sarah Reichelt wrote,

> Thanks Jim, that looks like a very useful tool...downloading now :-)

Two other things I didn't mention: If you need an SSL connection to your
DBs, definitely download the 5.2 version. Also, check out their plugins
section and search for an SQLite plugin someone wrote. With this you can use
the MySQL ER Modeling and then, through the plugin, have it generate SQLite
compatible SQL.

Aloha from Hawaii,

Jim Bufalini

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Re: on-rev queries

2010-02-04 Thread stephen barncard
Yes, I laud the upgrade to Intel, it was totally a wise decision. It's just
that the $$ I have in my two-screen media monster here is REALLY
becoming depressingly obsolete.  ProTools HD (original PCI cards)   has
stopped supporting G5s after the last version 8.01. It's been 9 years with
those cards, a pretty good run for this kins of stuff.

That's the way it goes, in the digital wonderland.

Well if the cooling doesn't blow up "It can always become a server..."
-
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San Francisco
http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev


On 4 February 2010 16:10, Bob Sneidar  wrote:

> I feel your pain. We have about 7 or 8 towers here and they are still very
> viable for things like graphics, audio and video post, etc. Our primary
> router is a G5 tower running Vicomsoft Intergate! However, think of the Mac
> world if Apple never switched to Intel. No Parallels or VMWare. No PC apps
> running on my Mac. I think the Apple market would have suffered
> tremendously. A LOT of avid PC people have switched to Mac when they learned
> they could still keep their beloved Windows and software. Funny thing is,
> most of the people I know who switched, liked the Mac OS so much they never
> use the PC side anymore. :-)
>
> Bob
>
>
> On Feb 4, 2010, at 4:05 PM, stephen barncard wrote:
>
> > x86 INTEL ONLY.  Burned again. Nothing for us G5 losers.
> >
> > there is nothing wrong with my machine, except it's a g5.
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Re: on-rev queries

2010-02-04 Thread stephen barncard
Bob, on my last project I had some time-outs issues - I thought at the time
it was more 'economical' to keep the connection open for multiple queries
and I spend a whole bunch of energy making a "pinger" to keep the connection
open  -- That was probably true for the 65 or so rapid fire queries I was
doing for a special app;  open , do 65 queries, close.  But I found that
leaving the connection open all the time was really pointless - there isn't
that much latency in the opening and closing of connections - most of the
time is spent funneling textual data to the client - the database.   In the
end I now think that closing often is good - it releases the server when not
needed.
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On 4 February 2010 16:05, Bob Sneidar  wrote:

> Hi Jim.
>
> Thanks for the info. I'm always in the hunt for a good mySQL utility. The
> original post was really about what happens when on-rev drops the connection
> due to an idle timeout. What happens is, the communication between
> Revolution fails, but it takes close to 10 minutes for Revolution to stop
> beach balling. This may or may not be typical of all mySQL servers, but when
> I ran all this on a local mySQL server I did not have these timeout
> problems. I was alerted right away that the connection was bad.
>
> My particular application merges and syncs two databases with each other,
> so it becomes important to create and drop tables automatically, as well as
> insert columns and such. So simply using a utility to do these things will
> not get me there.
>
> My fix of always connecting at the beginning of every script that needs
> access, and disconnecting at the end of every script that made the
> connection works for now. It's probably better to do this anyway, as we have
> an online grading system at our K-12 school that requires persistent
> connections, and fails if anything glitches or burps on the network. I can
> never reset the routers or switches during school hours without incurring
> the wrath of school admins. :-)
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob
>
>
> On Feb 4, 2010, at 3:44 PM, Jim Bufalini wrote:
>
> > Bob and Sarah and anyone else using MySQL,
> >
> >> I have used a MySQL database via On-Rev and it has seemed very fast
> >> for both reading & writing, but I did all the setup through cPanel and
> >> phpMyAdmin first.
> >
> > The cPanel and phpMyAdmin is "OK" in that it works, but I find it very
> > clumsy. Check out MySQL Workbench (the Community Edition) at
> > http://mysql.com/products/workbench/. It's completely free,
> cross-platform
> > (PC, Mac, Linux), runs from your desktop, and has one of the best ER
> > Modeling modules I've ever seen. At this point you can download version
> 5.1
> > or 5.2 (which is considered beta) but I have found it very stable and
> it's
> > quite different from 5.1.
> >
> > Aloha from Hawaii,
> >
> > Jim Bufalini
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Re: on-rev queries

2010-02-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
I feel your pain. We have about 7 or 8 towers here and they are still very 
viable for things like graphics, audio and video post, etc. Our primary router 
is a G5 tower running Vicomsoft Intergate! However, think of the Mac world if 
Apple never switched to Intel. No Parallels or VMWare. No PC apps running on my 
Mac. I think the Apple market would have suffered tremendously. A LOT of avid 
PC people have switched to Mac when they learned they could still keep their 
beloved Windows and software. Funny thing is, most of the people I know who 
switched, liked the Mac OS so much they never use the PC side anymore. :-)

Bob


On Feb 4, 2010, at 4:05 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

> x86 INTEL ONLY.  Burned again. Nothing for us G5 losers.
> 
> there is nothing wrong with my machine, except it's a g5.

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Re: on-rev queries

2010-02-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
Hi Jim. 

Thanks for the info. I'm always in the hunt for a good mySQL utility. The 
original post was really about what happens when on-rev drops the connection 
due to an idle timeout. What happens is, the communication between Revolution 
fails, but it takes close to 10 minutes for Revolution to stop beach balling. 
This may or may not be typical of all mySQL servers, but when I ran all this on 
a local mySQL server I did not have these timeout problems. I was alerted right 
away that the connection was bad. 

My particular application merges and syncs two databases with each other, so it 
becomes important to create and drop tables automatically, as well as insert 
columns and such. So simply using a utility to do these things will not get me 
there. 

My fix of always connecting at the beginning of every script that needs access, 
and disconnecting at the end of every script that made the connection works for 
now. It's probably better to do this anyway, as we have an online grading 
system at our K-12 school that requires persistent connections, and fails if 
anything glitches or burps on the network. I can never reset the routers or 
switches during school hours without incurring the wrath of school admins. :-)

Thanks. 

Bob


On Feb 4, 2010, at 3:44 PM, Jim Bufalini wrote:

> Bob and Sarah and anyone else using MySQL,
> 
>> I have used a MySQL database via On-Rev and it has seemed very fast
>> for both reading & writing, but I did all the setup through cPanel and
>> phpMyAdmin first.
> 
> The cPanel and phpMyAdmin is "OK" in that it works, but I find it very
> clumsy. Check out MySQL Workbench (the Community Edition) at
> http://mysql.com/products/workbench/. It's completely free, cross-platform
> (PC, Mac, Linux), runs from your desktop, and has one of the best ER
> Modeling modules I've ever seen. At this point you can download version 5.1
> or 5.2 (which is considered beta) but I have found it very stable and it's
> quite different from 5.1.
> 
> Aloha from Hawaii,
> 
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Re: on-rev queries

2010-02-04 Thread stephen barncard
x86 INTEL ONLY.  Burned again. Nothing for us G5 losers.

there is nothing wrong with my machine, except it's a g5.
-
Stephen Barncard
San Francisco
http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev


On 4 February 2010 15:44, Jim Bufalini  wrote:

> Bob and Sarah and anyone else using MySQL,
>
> > I have used a MySQL database via On-Rev and it has seemed very fast
> > for both reading & writing, but I did all the setup through cPanel and
> > phpMyAdmin first.
>
> The cPanel and phpMyAdmin is "OK" in that it works, but I find it very
> clumsy. Check out MySQL Workbench (the Community Edition) at
> http://mysql.com/products/workbench/. It's completely free, cross-platform
> (PC, Mac, Linux), runs from your desktop, and has one of the best ER
> Modeling modules I've ever seen. At this point you can download version 5.1
> or 5.2 (which is considered beta) but I have found it very stable and it's
> quite different from 5.1.
>
> Aloha from Hawaii,
>
> Jim Bufalini
>
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Re: on-rev queries

2010-02-04 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Jim Bufalini  wrote:
> Bob and Sarah and anyone else using MySQL,
>
>> I have used a MySQL database via On-Rev and it has seemed very fast
>> for both reading & writing, but I did all the setup through cPanel and
>> phpMyAdmin first.
>
> The cPanel and phpMyAdmin is "OK" in that it works, but I find it very
> clumsy. Check out MySQL Workbench (the Community Edition) at
> http://mysql.com/products/workbench/. It's completely free, cross-platform
> (PC, Mac, Linux), runs from your desktop, and has one of the best ER
> Modeling modules I've ever seen. At this point you can download version 5.1
> or 5.2 (which is considered beta) but I have found it very stable and it's
> quite different from 5.1.


Thanks Jim, that looks like a very useful tool...downloading now :-)

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: More on Performance

2010-02-04 Thread J. Landman Gay

Scott Rossi wrote:

What strategies do you employ to get the
best responsiveness out of your apps during tight repeat loops?


You could try putting in a "wait 1 millisecond with messages" somewhere 
in the loop. It yields time to the interface so the controls can respond.


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Re: little OT: Did anyone from Germany receive the Conference DVDset, yet?

2010-02-04 Thread Sarah Reichelt
>>> is there  anyone from germany here on the list, who has already  received
>>> the Conference DVD set ?
>>
>> I guess there is no need to expect mine to arrive in Australia yet, if
>> they haven't even made it to Germany...
>
> Well, someone I know in California got his set. It takes longer to ship to
> Australia though, because they have to hire someone to hold onto the
> packages to keep them from falling out of the plane when they fly upside
> down.


Not true... we have highly trained koalas to do that.
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RE: on-rev queries

2010-02-04 Thread Jim Bufalini
Bob and Sarah and anyone else using MySQL,

> I have used a MySQL database via On-Rev and it has seemed very fast
> for both reading & writing, but I did all the setup through cPanel and
> phpMyAdmin first.

The cPanel and phpMyAdmin is "OK" in that it works, but I find it very
clumsy. Check out MySQL Workbench (the Community Edition) at
http://mysql.com/products/workbench/. It's completely free, cross-platform
(PC, Mac, Linux), runs from your desktop, and has one of the best ER
Modeling modules I've ever seen. At this point you can download version 5.1
or 5.2 (which is considered beta) but I have found it very stable and it's
quite different from 5.1.

Aloha from Hawaii,

Jim Bufalini

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Re: Export Snapshot experts?

2010-02-04 Thread J. Landman Gay

David Bovill wrote:

I'm looking into using the "export snapshot" functionality of Rev - which I
use regularly on OSX - but have not tested on all platforms. Does anyone
know of situations in which it does not work = platforms etc? how about with
games that draw directly to the screen (which I know can cause issues with
screen grabbers)?


I've used it a lot cross platform and never had any issues at all. I've 
not tried it outside of Rev stacks though.


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Re-2: little OT: Did anyone from Germany receive the Conference DVDset, yet?

2010-02-04 Thread runrev260805
Hm,

if it think of that the sets are now shipped since more than 3 weeks and there 
are so many not yet shipped ...
Then how many sets were sold? There  must be thousands and thousands or is the 
logistics company, which is doing the shipment for Runrev, a one person 
company, which is not able to ship more than  5 or 10 a day? Do they have to 
burn the DVDs before shipment?

Slowly but surely i will lose my patience about that. A good logistics company, 
even a small one, should be able to send about 300 - 500 packages a day.

Regards,

Matthias







 Original Message 
Subject: Re: little OT: Did anyone from Germany receive the Conference DVDset, 
yet? (04-Feb-2010 23:44)
From:Sarah Reichelt 
To:  runrev260...@m-r-d.de

> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 3:35 AM,   wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > is there  anyone from germany here on the list, who has already  received 
> > the Conference DVD set ?
> 
> I guess there is no need to expect mine to arrive in Australia yet, if
> they haven't even made it to Germany...
> 
> Cheers,
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Re: little OT: Did anyone from Germany receive the Conference DVDset, yet?

2010-02-04 Thread J. Landman Gay

Sarah Reichelt wrote:

On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 3:35 AM,   wrote:

Hi,

is there  anyone from germany here on the list, who has already  received the 
Conference DVD set ?


I guess there is no need to expect mine to arrive in Australia yet, if
they haven't even made it to Germany...


Well, someone I know in California got his set. It takes longer to ship 
to Australia though, because they have to hire someone to hold onto the 
packages to keep them from falling out of the plane when they fly upside 
down.


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RE: little OT: Did anyone from Germany receive the Conference

2010-02-04 Thread bar...@libero.it
Thu, 4 Feb 2010 18:43:10 +0100 Tiemo Hollman wrote in response to Matthias

>Nooop :(
>Germany doesn't seems to be on the line in Edinburgh
>Tiemo

  Reminds me of an apparently true story here in Italy from the 2nd World War. 
The phone lines to the isle of Sicily were interrupted and the switchboard 
operator reported to his superior officer :- "Signore, the mainland is 
isolated!"

Best Regards Barry


 >Donnerstag, 4. Februar 2010 18:36
 
> Hi,
>
> is there  anyone from germany here on the list, who has already  received
> the Conference DVD set ?
>
> Regards,
>
> Matthias
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Re: little OT: Did anyone from Germany receive the Conference DVDset, yet?

2010-02-04 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 3:35 AM,   wrote:
> Hi,
>
> is there  anyone from germany here on the list, who has already  received the 
> Conference DVD set ?

I guess there is no need to expect mine to arrive in Australia yet, if
they haven't even made it to Germany...

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: [ANN] RunRev Community Linux Distro

2010-02-04 Thread viktoras d.

Cool!

Now you/we need some work on a website with wording and structure like 
Ubuntu website i.e. a little of PR to make it as popular and as well 
known ;-). I am looking forward for the release of the liveCD.


All the best!
Viktoras



Andre Garzia wrote:

Hello Folks,

This was quick!

Move your browsers to http://andregarzia.com/revlinux/ and check it out. So
far I just put the VMWare Image out, the other images and LiveCD will follow
shortly. This is a SuSe based distro with revEnterprise, revStudio, MySQL,
PostgreSQL, Apache2, RevOnRockets installed. I created this from our emails
yesterday till today, so it is a bit rough. I will polish it more if there's
interest.

Please, tell me what you think

http://andregarzia.com/revlinux/

:D

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Export Snapshot experts?

2010-02-04 Thread David Bovill
I'm looking into using the "export snapshot" functionality of Rev - which I
use regularly on OSX - but have not tested on all platforms. Does anyone
know of situations in which it does not work = platforms etc? how about with
games that draw directly to the screen (which I know can cause issues with
screen grabbers)?
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Re: [ANN] RunRev Community Linux Distro

2010-02-04 Thread Malte Pfaff-Brill
Andre,

thanks for putting this together! I will surely check it out, once the water 
clears a bit over here. (Too packed atm). Peter makes a valid point about 
bandwidth. If this is / becomes an issue, give me a holler. I might still have 
a few MBs to share if a mirror is needed. How large is the distro?

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Re: [ANN] RunRev Community Linux Distro

2010-02-04 Thread Peter Alcibiades

Andre, should you not move it to ibiblio or someplace?  Or maybe Rev can
provide hosting?   Or perhaps someone on the list has ideas.  We must not
let you get hit for bandwidth for this. 

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Re: [ANN] RunRev Community Linux Distro

2010-02-04 Thread Peter Alcibiades

Fantastic!  What a guy!  Not the least of the benefits is, we can find out by
the downloads just how many people are serious about Rev on Linux.   We may
not like the answer, of course.  But here's hoping!

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Re: little OT: Did anyone from Germany receive the Conference DVDset, yet?

2010-02-04 Thread Ian Wood

Here in the UK my set arrived sometime last week.

Ian

On 4 Feb 2010, at 17:35, runrev260...@m-r-d.de wrote:


Hi,

is there  anyone from germany here on the list, who has already   
received the Conference DVD set ?


Regards,

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Re: AW: little OT: Did anyone from Germany receive the Conference DVDset, yet?

2010-02-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson

On 04/02/2010 20:25, Marian Petrides wrote:

I could have sworn someone in New York reported getting their DVDs, but here in 
Missouri there's been no sign of them yet.  In fact, it's been so long, I  
emailed support to check to see if   a) they had been sent yet  and b) that 
they were sent to the correct address.  Still no reply.
   


As the old song goes: "Don't cheat on the cheese!"

I hope nobody is cheating on the cheese; it would certainly lower my 
confidence in the mice.




On Feb 4, 2010, at 12:09 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

   

On 04/02/2010 19:43, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
 

Nooop :(
Germany doesn't seems to be on the line in Edinburgh
Tiemo


   

Hey, guess what: Bulgaria is further away, both geographically and
conceptually. However I have pencilled in 24 March 2013 as a suitable
date to celebrate the DVDs' arrival here: I hope I have set that date too
late rather than too early . . .  :)
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Re: AW: little OT: Did anyone from Germany receive the Conference DVDset, yet?

2010-02-04 Thread Marian Petrides
I could have sworn someone in New York reported getting their DVDs, but here in 
Missouri there's been no sign of them yet.  In fact, it's been so long, I  
emailed support to check to see if   a) they had been sent yet  and b) that 
they were sent to the correct address.  Still no reply.


On Feb 4, 2010, at 12:09 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

> On 04/02/2010 19:43, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
>> Nooop :(
>> Germany doesn't seems to be on the line in Edinburgh
>> Tiemo
>> 
>>   
> Hey, guess what: Bulgaria is further away, both geographically and
> conceptually. However I have pencilled in 24 March 2013 as a suitable
> date to celebrate the DVDs' arrival here: I hope I have set that date too
> late rather than too early . . .  :)
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Re: AW: little OT: Did anyone from Germany receive the Conference DVDset, yet?

2010-02-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson

On 04/02/2010 19:43, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:

Nooop :(
Germany doesn't seems to be on the line in Edinburgh
Tiemo

   

Hey, guess what: Bulgaria is further away, both geographically and
conceptually. However I have pencilled in 24 March 2013 as a suitable
date to celebrate the DVDs' arrival here: I hope I have set that date too
late rather than too early . . .  :)
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AW: little OT: Did anyone from Germany receive the Conference DVDset, yet?

2010-02-04 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Nooop :(
Germany doesn't seems to be on the line in Edinburgh
Tiemo

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-
> boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von runrev260...@m-r-d.de
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Februar 2010 18:36
> An: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
> Betreff: little OT: Did anyone from Germany receive the Conference DVDset,
> yet?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> is there  anyone from germany here on the list, who has already  received
> the Conference DVD set ?
> 
> Regards,
> 
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little OT: Did anyone from Germany receive the Conference DVDset, yet?

2010-02-04 Thread runrev260805
Hi,

is there  anyone from germany here on the list, who has already  received the 
Conference DVD set ?

Regards,

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[ANN] RunRev Community Linux Distro

2010-02-04 Thread Andre Garzia
Hello Folks,

This was quick!

Move your browsers to http://andregarzia.com/revlinux/ and check it out. So
far I just put the VMWare Image out, the other images and LiveCD will follow
shortly. This is a SuSe based distro with revEnterprise, revStudio, MySQL,
PostgreSQL, Apache2, RevOnRockets installed. I created this from our emails
yesterday till today, so it is a bit rough. I will polish it more if there's
interest.

Please, tell me what you think

http://andregarzia.com/revlinux/

:D

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Re: Linux, Rev and dependencies ?

2010-02-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson

On 04/02/2010 18:45, J. Landman Gay wrote:

Richmond Mathewson wrote:

Err . . . does www.runrev.com have a nifty little page where the 
dependencies

are listed?

Ah, I thought not!


I only know three words in UNIX, and that's because I have to 
copy/paste them into the occasional tech support response. 
But...doesn't "ldd" work? That's supposed to give you that info. 
Typical output:


ldd revolution.x86
linux-gate.so.1 => (0xe000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7edb000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0xb7e0f000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0xb7e01000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0xb7ddc000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7caf000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7f08000)

If anything on the right hand side is missing then there are missing 
libraries.


Err . . . well that means you know 3 more words than me; grunt, grunt  . 
. .  :)


Thanks for the tip.
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Re: Linux, Rev and dependencies ?

2010-02-04 Thread J. Landman Gay

Richmond Mathewson wrote:

Err . . . does www.runrev.com have a nifty little page where the 
dependencies

are listed?

Ah, I thought not!


I only know three words in UNIX, and that's because I have to copy/paste 
them into the occasional tech support response. But...doesn't "ldd" 
work? That's supposed to give you that info. Typical output:


ldd revolution.x86
linux-gate.so.1 => (0xe000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7edb000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0xb7e0f000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0xb7e01000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0xb7ddc000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7caf000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7f08000)

If anything on the right hand side is missing then there are missing 
libraries.


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Re: Windows 'run as administrator' property of standalone

2010-02-04 Thread Bernard Devlin
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:05 PM, David Glasgow
 wrote:
>>
Just experimented, and you are dead right.  The flag becomes unset.
Unfortunately I can't work out what is going on, because I have XP and
Vista, and the former doesn't report that property.  Nevertheless,
setting it on Vista, then creating an install on XP and installing
back on Vista loses the flag somewhere along the way.  Darn it.  It
just doesn't seem very professional when you ask people to start
twiddling within Vistas under-garments.
<<

Just a thought What happens if you set 'run as administrator' on
an executable, then zip that executable up, then unzip it on the other
system?  The zip file _might_ include that information.  Although if
the second system is XP then it might be asking a lot to expect that
bit to be carried over from Vista.

Bernard
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Re: parental control problems - Mac OS X

2010-02-04 Thread Chris Sheffield
For anyone interested in this, I'm not sure what changed between Rev 3.0 and 
Rev 4.0, but this problem seems to disappear when building our standalone with 
Rev 4.0. We first discovered that the problem only occurred when building for 
Universal Binary. An Intel-only build did not have the problem (that was with 
Rev 3.0). So we decided at that point just to try a build with Rev 4.0 
(Universal Binary) and that seemed to work just fine. Not the most ideal 
solution, as we had to do a special build to send to some customers, but at 
least we found a solution.

Just thought I'd let you all know. And thanks to all those who replied with 
suggestions.

Chris


On Jan 28, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Chris Sheffield wrote:

> Honestly, I wish that were the case, but I don't think so. This is the same 
> build of our app that has been running for nearly a year now (updated last 
> April). We've had no reports of this problem until just recently, which makes 
> me think some security update changed something in parental controls that's 
> causing this problem. Again, why it only happens on Rev-built apps, I don't 
> know.
> 
> On Jan 28, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 4:47 AM, Chris Sheffield  
>> wrote:
>>> Jacque,
>>> 
>>> Here's some more info from our end. Not sure if everyone is experiencing 
>>> this same behavior or not, but in our case, the executable inside the app 
>>> bundle is actually getting damaged. We compared an app that had been 
>>> launched with parental controls enabled for it and one that hadn't, and the 
>>> one that had was about 1 MB smaller. When trying to launch the executable 
>>> directly from Terminal, we get a file read error. So in this case, it looks 
>>> like no amount of messing with permissions is going to fix the problem. The 
>>> file is toast at that point.
>> 
>> 
>> Is your app trying to write a file, being denied permission, so
>> over-writing the executable instead?
>> I encountered this with an app that was writing a preferences file
>> with the same name as the executable. When the path was set
>> incorrectly, the executable got replaced.
>> 
>> Cheers,
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AW: AW: open substack flickering despite lockscreen

2010-02-04 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Ah ok, the preopenstack is the clue!
Thanks Phil
Tiemo

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-
> boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Phil Jimmieson
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Februar 2010 15:13
> An: How to use Revolution
> Betreff: Re: AW: open substack flickering despite lockscreen
> 
> Hi Tiemo,
> Add a preopenstack handler to the stack that you want to display modally,
> and in this handler, set the location you want the stack to occupy.
> When the stack opens up, before you see it it positions itself in the
> location you supplied, so:
> 
> on preopenstack
>   global tLocX,tLocY  --or some other way of passing the location you want
> - a custom property of the stack perhaps?
>   set the left of stack "lizenzinfo" to tLocX
>   set the top of stack "lizenzinfo" to tLocY
> end preopenstack
> 
> 
> then when you use the command
> 
> 
> modal stack "lizenzinfo"
> 
> 
> your stack will be displayed at tLocX and tLocY
> 
> 
> On 4 Feb 2010, at 14:01, Klaus Major wrote:
> 
> > Hi Tiemo,
> >
> >> Hi Klaus,
> >>
> >> there is a saying "don't halloo, before you are out of the wood"
> >
> > ??? I only understand "station" :-D
> >
> >> When using just:
> >>
> >>  set the left of stack "lizenzinfo" to tLocX
> >>  set the top of stack "lizenzinfo" to tLocY
> >>  modal stack "lizenzinfo"
> >>
> >> the setting of the loc seems to be ineffective, The stack just opens at
> the
> >> default center position. When opening the stack, before setting the
> loc, as
> >> in my first approach, the positioning works, but the flickering.
> >> Any idea what's wrong?
> >
> > Oops, my fault!
> > I thought this behaviour only applies to the "Ask" and "Answer" dialogs,
> but a look into the docs proved me wrong.
> > This is obviously managed by the engine.
> >
> > No other idea, sorry.
> >
> >> Thanks
> >> Tiemo
> >
> > Best
> >
> > --
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> > http://www.major-k.de
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Re: AW: open substack flickering despite lockscreen

2010-02-04 Thread Phil Jimmieson
Hi Tiemo,
Add a preopenstack handler to the stack that you want to display modally, and 
in this handler, set the location you want the stack to occupy.
When the stack opens up, before you see it it positions itself in the location 
you supplied, so:

on preopenstack
  global tLocX,tLocY  --or some other way of passing the location you want - a 
custom property of the stack perhaps?
  set the left of stack "lizenzinfo" to tLocX
  set the top of stack "lizenzinfo" to tLocY 
end preopenstack


then when you use the command


modal stack "lizenzinfo" 


your stack will be displayed at tLocX and tLocY


On 4 Feb 2010, at 14:01, Klaus Major wrote:

> Hi Tiemo,
> 
>> Hi Klaus,
>> 
>> there is a saying "don't halloo, before you are out of the wood"
> 
> ??? I only understand "station" :-D
> 
>> When using just:
>> 
>>  set the left of stack "lizenzinfo" to tLocX
>>  set the top of stack "lizenzinfo" to tLocY
>>  modal stack "lizenzinfo"
>> 
>> the setting of the loc seems to be ineffective, The stack just opens at the
>> default center position. When opening the stack, before setting the loc, as
>> in my first approach, the positioning works, but the flickering.
>> Any idea what's wrong?
> 
> Oops, my fault!
> I thought this behaviour only applies to the "Ask" and "Answer" dialogs, but 
> a look into the docs proved me wrong.
> This is obviously managed by the engine.
> 
> No other idea, sorry.
> 
>> Thanks
>> Tiemo
> 
> Best
> 
> --
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> http://www.major-k.de
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AW: AW: open substack flickering despite lockscreen

2010-02-04 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Ok, I could do following:

Open invisible stack "lizenzinfo"
set the left of stack "lizenzinfo" to tLocX
set the top of stack "lizenzinfo" to tLocY
modal stack "lizenzinfo"
show stack "lizenzinfo" 

... but is this the rev wanted approach? I think there must be a more
straight forward way
Thanks
Tiemo



> 
> > When using just:
> >
> >   set the left of stack "lizenzinfo" to tLocX
> >   set the top of stack "lizenzinfo" to tLocY
> >   modal stack "lizenzinfo"
> >
> > the setting of the loc seems to be ineffective, The stack just opens at
> the
> > default center position. When opening the stack, before setting the loc,
> as
> > in my first approach, the positioning works, but the flickering.
> > Any idea what's wrong?
> 
> Oops, my fault!
> I thought this behaviour only applies to the "Ask" and "Answer" dialogs,
> but a look into the docs proved me wrong.
> This is obviously managed by the engine.
> 
> No other idea, sorry.
> 
> > Thanks
> > Tiemo
> 
> Best
> 
> --
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> http://www.major-k.de
> kl...@major.on-rev.com
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Re: AW: open substack flickering despite lockscreen

2010-02-04 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Tiemo,

> Hi Klaus,
> 
> there is a saying "don't halloo, before you are out of the wood"

??? I only understand "station" :-D

> When using just:
> 
>   set the left of stack "lizenzinfo" to tLocX
>   set the top of stack "lizenzinfo" to tLocY
>   modal stack "lizenzinfo"
> 
> the setting of the loc seems to be ineffective, The stack just opens at the
> default center position. When opening the stack, before setting the loc, as
> in my first approach, the positioning works, but the flickering.
> Any idea what's wrong?

Oops, my fault!
I thought this behaviour only applies to the "Ask" and "Answer" dialogs, but a 
look into the docs proved me wrong.
This is obviously managed by the engine.

No other idea, sorry.

> Thanks
> Tiemo

Best

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Re: Getting data from a secure web page

2010-02-04 Thread Trevor DeVore

On Feb 3, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:

Thanks for all this Trevor. I installed your custom libURL fine  
thanks.


It now redirects but it doesn't get me where I want, instead I get:
You must be logged in with a parent account to
access this functionality.


If the login info is being stored in a cookie can you watch the libURL  
log and see if the cookies are being sent along with the redirect?


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AW: open substack flickering despite lockscreen

2010-02-04 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Klaus,

there is a saying "don't halloo, before you are out of the wood"
When using just:

   set the left of stack "lizenzinfo" to tLocX
   set the top of stack "lizenzinfo" to tLocY
   modal stack "lizenzinfo"

the setting of the loc seems to be ineffective, The stack just opens at the
default center position. When opening the stack, before setting the loc, as
in my first approach, the positioning works, but the flickering.
Any idea what's wrong?
Thanks
Tiemo

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-
> boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Tiemo Hollmann TB
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Februar 2010 14:44
> An: 'How to use Revolution'
> Betreff: AW: open substack flickering despite lockscreen
> 
> Hi Klaus,
> I knew you would have an easy solution on this!
> Thanks, Tiemo :)
> 
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-
> > boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Klaus Major
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Februar 2010 14:41
> > An: How to use Revolution
> > Betreff: Re: open substack flickering despite lockscreen
> >
> > Hi Tiemo,
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I want to open a substack modal at the loc of the mouse. Everything
> > works,
> > > beside there is a flickering, when opening the substack and
> positioning
> > it
> > > at the mouse loc despide of having a lockscreen. For a moment of a
> > second
> > > the stack appears at his default loc and then it appears at my wanted
> > > position. So there must be a fault in my following approach:
> > >
> > >   set the lockscreen to true
> > >   open stack "lizenzinfo"
> > >   set the left of stack " lizenzinfo" to tLocX
> > >   set the top of stack " lizenzinfo" to tLocY
> > >   modal stack "lizenzinfo"
> > >   set the lockscreen to false
> > >
> > > The reason for using first "open" and afterwords "modal" was, that I
> > > couldn't change the position, when opening it with modal, as far as I
> > > remember my code.
> >
> > Try this, since you can set these props even BEFOE you open your stack!
> > ...
> >   set the left of stack "lizenzinfo" to tLocX
> >   set the top of stack "lizenzinfo" to tLocY
> >   modal stack "lizenzinfo"
> > ...
> >
> > > Why does the lockscreen doesn't seem to be affective? What am I doing
> > wrong?
> >
> > "lock screen" only works inside of a stack, not on the screen
> > unfortunately!
> >
> > > Thanks for any hint
> > >
> > > Tiemo
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Klaus
> >
> > --
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> > http://www.major-k.de
> > kl...@major.on-rev.com
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Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-04 Thread viktoras d.

Hi, Peter,

indeed, some time ago I used to deploy simple Revolution apps on Puppy. 
They worked. Apps were compiled using the old engine (2.6). However I 
have never tried that again with the new Rev 4.x, some day I will :-).


Viktoras

Peter Alcibiades wrote:

Indeed, this would be a great step forward, to have a gold standard linux
distribution plus Rev installation, then we would know for sure how it was
supposed to work and could work, and we'd know that any shortfalls were with
our particular installation.  A live USB distro might be the most useful
because the fastest.

If you want something small, light and customizable to start from, there is
Puppy.  Yes, its true, it does not have Gnome.  Stop that, you heretic!

As soon as its done, I will be happy to give it a workout, and am sure
others will too. 


Peter


viktoras d. wrote:
  

Thank you Andre!

That's what I call a community - one day one wrote "wouldn't it be nice 
to have own Revolinux distro" and the next day he is about to download 
it :-)


It would be good to make it small enough to fit into a single CD/LiveCD.





  


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AW: open substack flickering despite lockscreen

2010-02-04 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Klaus,
I knew you would have an easy solution on this!
Thanks, Tiemo :)

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-
> boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Klaus Major
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Februar 2010 14:41
> An: How to use Revolution
> Betreff: Re: open substack flickering despite lockscreen
> 
> Hi Tiemo,
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > I want to open a substack modal at the loc of the mouse. Everything
> works,
> > beside there is a flickering, when opening the substack and positioning
> it
> > at the mouse loc despide of having a lockscreen. For a moment of a
> second
> > the stack appears at his default loc and then it appears at my wanted
> > position. So there must be a fault in my following approach:
> >
> >   set the lockscreen to true
> >   open stack "lizenzinfo"
> >   set the left of stack " lizenzinfo" to tLocX
> >   set the top of stack " lizenzinfo" to tLocY
> >   modal stack "lizenzinfo"
> >   set the lockscreen to false
> >
> > The reason for using first "open" and afterwords "modal" was, that I
> > couldn't change the position, when opening it with modal, as far as I
> > remember my code.
> 
> Try this, since you can set these props even BEFOE you open your stack!
> ...
>   set the left of stack "lizenzinfo" to tLocX
>   set the top of stack "lizenzinfo" to tLocY
>   modal stack "lizenzinfo"
> ...
> 
> > Why does the lockscreen doesn't seem to be affective? What am I doing
> wrong?
> 
> "lock screen" only works inside of a stack, not on the screen
> unfortunately!
> 
> > Thanks for any hint
> >
> > Tiemo
> 
> Best
> 
> Klaus
> 
> --
> Klaus Major
> http://www.major-k.de
> kl...@major.on-rev.com
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Re: open substack flickering despite lockscreen

2010-02-04 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Tiemo,

> Hello,
> 
> I want to open a substack modal at the loc of the mouse. Everything works,
> beside there is a flickering, when opening the substack and positioning it
> at the mouse loc despide of having a lockscreen. For a moment of a second
> the stack appears at his default loc and then it appears at my wanted
> position. So there must be a fault in my following approach:
> 
>   set the lockscreen to true
>   open stack "lizenzinfo"
>   set the left of stack " lizenzinfo" to tLocX
>   set the top of stack " lizenzinfo" to tLocY
>   modal stack "lizenzinfo"
>   set the lockscreen to false
> 
> The reason for using first "open" and afterwords "modal" was, that I
> couldn't change the position, when opening it with modal, as far as I
> remember my code.

Try this, since you can set these props even BEFOE you open your stack!
...
  set the left of stack "lizenzinfo" to tLocX
  set the top of stack "lizenzinfo" to tLocY
  modal stack "lizenzinfo"
...

> Why does the lockscreen doesn't seem to be affective? What am I doing wrong?

"lock screen" only works inside of a stack, not on the screen unfortunately!

> Thanks for any hint
> 
> Tiemo

Best

Klaus

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Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-04 Thread Peter Alcibiades

Indeed, this would be a great step forward, to have a gold standard linux
distribution plus Rev installation, then we would know for sure how it was
supposed to work and could work, and we'd know that any shortfalls were with
our particular installation.  A live USB distro might be the most useful
because the fastest.

If you want something small, light and customizable to start from, there is
Puppy.  Yes, its true, it does not have Gnome.  Stop that, you heretic!

As soon as its done, I will be happy to give it a workout, and am sure
others will too. 

Peter


viktoras d. wrote:
> 
> Thank you Andre!
> 
> That's what I call a community - one day one wrote "wouldn't it be nice 
> to have own Revolinux distro" and the next day he is about to download 
> it :-)
> 
> It would be good to make it small enough to fit into a single CD/LiveCD.
> 
> 

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open substack flickering despite lockscreen

2010-02-04 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello,

 

I want to open a substack modal at the loc of the mouse. Everything works,
beside there is a flickering, when opening the substack and positioning it
at the mouse loc despide of having a lockscreen. For a moment of a second
the stack appears at his default loc and then it appears at my wanted
position. So there must be a fault in my following approach:

 

   set the lockscreen to true

   open stack "lizenzinfo"

   set the left of stack " lizenzinfo" to tLocX

   set the top of stack " lizenzinfo" to tLocY

   modal stack "lizenzinfo"

   set the lockscreen to false

 

The reason for using first "open" and afterwords "modal" was, that I
couldn't change the position, when opening it with modal, as far as I
remember my code.

Why does the lockscreen doesn't seem to be affective? What am I doing wrong?

Thanks for any hint

Tiemo

 

 

 

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Re: Windows 'run as administrator' property of standalone

2010-02-04 Thread David Glasgow

On 3 Feb 2010, at 6:00 pm, Bernard Devlin wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:59 AM, David Glasgow
>  wrote:
>> I was wondering whether setting this before distribution might reduce the 
>> occasional permissions problems which arise.  I was also slightly worried 
>> that user levels can apparently be so readily overridden by an executable, 
>> and also that there may be unforeseen (by me) adverse consequences if I set 
>> this flag before distribution.
> 
> Hi David
> 
> On Vista always have to run Valentina Studio with "run as
> administrator" or I get errors.
> 
> I would be surprised if you choosing to set such a flag on an
> executable would result in that information being carried over when
> the executable is copied to another system.
> 
> Bernard

Bernard,

Just experimented, and you are dead right.  The flag becomes unset.  
Unfortunately I can't work out what is going on, because I have XP and Vista, 
and the former doesn't report that property.  Nevertheless, setting it on 
Vista, then creating an install on XP and installing back on Vista loses the 
flag somewhere along the way.  Darn it.  It just doesn't seem very professional 
when you ask people to start twiddling within Vistas under-garments.

David G



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Re: Flash & mouseclicks in Revbrowser

2010-02-04 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Colin,

> The same issue comes up when using Director that has Flash elements, when 
> used on a touch screen. For those cases I've had to modify the Flash code to 
> work around the problem. I imagine that Flash in RevBrowser is a similar kind 
> of embedding, where it's taking the first click to get the Flash piece into 
> focus, then the second click registers.

OK, may be in Director. 

But in a Revbrowser you really have to doubleclick (clickclick)!
Click..* 1001 mississippi...Click does NOT work!

* Right now the Flash element SHOULD have the focus according to your theory :-)


Best

Klaus

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Re: Flash & mouseclicks in Revbrowser

2010-02-04 Thread Colin Holgate
The same issue comes up when using Director that has Flash elements, when used 
on a touch screen. For those cases I've had to modify the Flash code to work 
around the problem. I imagine that Flash in RevBrowser is a similar kind of 
embedding, where it's taking the first click to get the Flash piece into focus, 
then the second click registers.


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Flash & mouseclicks in Revbrowser

2010-02-04 Thread Klaus Major
Hi all,

I found that most of the time you need to doubleclick(!) Flash elements 
(e.g. the movie controls in Youtube videos) when in a Revbrowser,
but the intended single clicks in a "normal" Browser like Safari or FireFox.

Know what I mean? Anyone else experienced this?

I'm on OS X 10.6.2, Intel.


Best

Klaus
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Linux, Rev and dependencies ?

2010-02-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson

Goofy types like myself just pop RunRev onto an already installed
linux distro; and either it works or it doesn't.

How can one work out what dependencies (if any) one requires if
one is to do a "home brew"?

Err . . . does www.runrev.com have a nifty little page where the 
dependencies

are listed?

Ah, I thought not!

Actually, come to think of it, it would be jolly nice if one could
have a way to list any application's dependencies without waiting
for apt-get or what-have-you to announce what they are as it is
merrily bloating your system with stuff which had you realised
all that were involved you would not have installed in the first place!



And, while I'm here; I installed Metacard on PPC Ubuntu the other
day and, having swapped over the LinuxPPC engine could not get
the thing to work.

All of this derived from:

http://www.hot.com.my/metacard/

bright thought welcomed!

Secondly; LinuxPPC builds built on x86 Linux seemd only to
work when they were inside the MC folder on Linux PPC,
but not on the desktop - doesn't seem quite right!
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Re: More on Performance

2010-02-04 Thread René Micout
I use a lot of loop-type "send X in 0 millisec" in my application "Exagofon" 
and I actually noticed that the process (music) was significantly faster when a 
window (Finder [Mac !] for example) hiding the application window, thus 
avoiding the screen refresh. However, I am not yet entered the phase of 
optimization of my code, so I am very interested in suggestions related to this 
post...
Sorry for this no-response
Bons souvenirs de Paris
René

Le 4 févr. 2010 à 11:06, Scott Rossi a écrit :

> I'm wondering if anyone has suggestions for maximizing the responsiveness of
> controls during a tight "send in..." loop.
> 
> I just discovered an odd (but perhaps expected?) relationship between the
> send command and locking the screen.  It seems that placing "send in..."
> within a handler that locks and unlocks the screen significantly increases
> screen refresh performance compared to executing the send AFTER unlocking
> the screen.  I suppose this might be due to Rev being able to cue the next
> send before updating the screen but I would have expected send to operate
> independently of the screen update.
> 
> At first I was thrilled to uncover this, as I've spent the last day trying
> to enhance the performance of a heavily animated stack, but I was quickly
> disappointed to find that controls on the card become extremely sluggish and
> less responsive when the send occurs before the screen unlock.  For example,
> a custom slider bogs down heavily and doesn't respond properly, compared to
> when the send occurs AFTER the screen unlock.
> 
> I tried creating a temporary condition (controlActive) that is established
> when a control is clicked, which the send handler could check and then
> adjust the timing of the unlock screen appropriately.  But so far I'm not
> seeing any change in the (poor) behavior.  I will continue testing.
> 
> Has anybody else run into this?  What strategies do you employ to get the
> best responsiveness out of your apps during tight repeat loops?
> 
> Thanks & Regards,
> 
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> Tactile Media, UX Design
> 
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Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-04 Thread viktoras d.

Thank you Andre!

That's what I call a community - one day one wrote "wouldn't it be nice 
to have own Revolinux distro" and the next day he is about to download 
it :-)


It would be good to make it small enough to fit into a single CD/LiveCD.

Thanks again and
Best wishes!
Viktoras

Andre Garzia wrote:

I am no genius, the guys at SUSE (Novell??) are. They made the software, I
am just using it.

Speaking of software, suse studio is giving me error 500 as of half an hour
ago. Must be overwhelmed, as soon as I it is up and running I will try to
cook something.

Now, a simple pool, for those wanting a linux image for testing, how big it
could be, meaning what is the upper size limit that you would download.

Anyone here remembers what are Rev Linux dependencies:
* Pango?
* all g libs?
* qt?



Cheers
andre

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 4:26 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

  

Andre Garzia wrote:

 If people here are so inclined, I can try to build a simple suse that


would
bundle Rev without a license (so you would need to put a license on first
run) and some useful tools. You could run it as a virtual machine under
vmware or virtualbox and thus test your software under linux without the
need to a full linux hardware.

  

Yes! That'd be great, Mr. Resident Genius. :)

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More on Performance

2010-02-04 Thread Scott Rossi
I'm wondering if anyone has suggestions for maximizing the responsiveness of
controls during a tight "send in..." loop.

I just discovered an odd (but perhaps expected?) relationship between the
send command and locking the screen.  It seems that placing "send in..."
within a handler that locks and unlocks the screen significantly increases
screen refresh performance compared to executing the send AFTER unlocking
the screen.  I suppose this might be due to Rev being able to cue the next
send before updating the screen but I would have expected send to operate
independently of the screen update.

At first I was thrilled to uncover this, as I've spent the last day trying
to enhance the performance of a heavily animated stack, but I was quickly
disappointed to find that controls on the card become extremely sluggish and
less responsive when the send occurs before the screen unlock.  For example,
a custom slider bogs down heavily and doesn't respond properly, compared to
when the send occurs AFTER the screen unlock.

I tried creating a temporary condition (controlActive) that is established
when a control is clicked, which the send handler could check and then
adjust the timing of the unlock screen appropriately.  But so far I'm not
seeing any change in the (poor) behavior.  I will continue testing.

Has anybody else run into this?  What strategies do you employ to get the
best responsiveness out of your apps during tight repeat loops?

Thanks & Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design


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Re: Polygonflow: clockwise or counter-clockwise?

2010-02-04 Thread Michael Kristensen

Thanks to Jeff and Alex for your replies

Alex, your script worked perfectly. Thanks

I needed to do the check in two cases:

1. I needed to calculate the area of multiple polygons by "stringing"  
them together in one superpolygon.
If they did'nt have the same flowdirection the calculation would be  
wrong.


2. If you need to string two polygons together and one is to act as a  
punch-out for the first, the two polygons must have opposite  
flowdirection. Otherwise the area will be wrong.


It is so easy to see the direction, but relatively difficult to  
calculate the direction.

Thanks again to both of you.

Michael
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