Re: [ANN] tRev build 301 released!
Hi Jerry, thank you for this big release. I mean... i love your software, some of the features of tRev are really useful and at the end of the work i feel i have to thank you. I write just to make you noticed that the annoying bug with the absence of an internet connection is still there. If i'm not connected to internet (i.e. while in train 3 hrs per day) i'm not able to use the save, compile or even to open scripts via the browser. It happened only if i use the dictionary while offline an then i turn back to trev to continue work. I sent you, a couple of weeks ago, a report to replicate the bug. The worst thing then is that i must copy the script from trev to the internal editor. Because as trev loses the connection all the changes are not been written to the script. Can you fix this connection dependent issue? Or maybe alert the user when trev is unable to write on the real script underlaying in runrev? Thank You very much for all your work. Best Jacopo On 10/mar/2010, at 19.27, Jerry Daniels wrote: tRevors, Feature Friday came late and for good reason. I have rebuilt the update and installation mechanism for tRev so that updates and such are faster, easier, fool-proof, asynchronous and offer less interference with other processes such as Rev IDE doing its accessing to its site during its startup. There is also a built-in menu item under Help that facilitates sending questions to me (which also reinforces the need to read the docs first). Stay tuned for this coming Feature Friday. Little game-changing goin' on. Best, Jerry Daniels ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
lubURL nuances
While working with Dan Friedman to diagnose some FTP issues, he came up with some questions I couldn't answer so I'm bringing them to y'all to see what we can find: 1. Is put url... a blocking command? I believe it's supposed to be, but find I can sometime do other things while it's running, including submitting subsequent put url... commands. 2. In such a circumstance, the second attempt to put url... meets with an error, Previous request not completed. I've found that once that error hits the original request sometimes runs into trouble, requiring me to use libUrlResetAll and try again. Is there a more graceful way to handle that error? 3. libUrlResetAll comes with a warning not to use it. :) But I've found it the simplest, most reliable way to cancel all socket activity and start fresh. If that's your goal, to reset all socket stuff and start fresh, is there some downside to using libUrlResetAll that I've overlooked? TIA - -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lubURL nuances
Richard, I will mix my answers with your questions, please, be aware that my answers are not the ultimate truth but products of all my million failed connections during the last few years. 1. Is put url... a blocking command? I believe it's supposed to be, but find I can sometime do other things while it's running, including submitting subsequent put url... commands. many libURL commands will try to queue multiple calls to the same host, here it usually does not work. 2. In such a circumstance, the second attempt to put url... meets with an error, Previous request not completed. I've found that once that error hits the original request sometimes runs into trouble, requiring me to use libUrlResetAll and try again. Is there a more graceful way to handle that error? The only way I know to handle liburl stuff such as previous request not completed is to use the reset all command. You may be able to query the opensockets and close just the socket that you want. 3. libUrlResetAll comes with a warning not to use it. :) But I've found it the simplest, most reliable way to cancel all socket activity and start fresh. If that's your goal, to reset all socket stuff and start fresh, is there some downside to using libUrlResetAll that I've overlooked? The only downside that people might not be aware is that this will probably close your database connections as well. I am not sure and I am not sure if RevDB will try to reopen them on their own in case they break, but I believe that if you resetall, they break. This is not tested, it is just an opinion and since RevDB revamping, I think it is running on another thread or something similar so its own socket connections might not be affected by the resetall command. TIA - -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lubURL nuances
Richard, I've spent quite a bit of time figuring out #1 and #2 of your question list. I have a couple... URL intensive apps, and I used to get the previous request error all the time. Here's what I've learned through experimentation. 1. Blocking... The PUT URL command is only blocking _within the context of the current handler_. You can think of it as if it was written like so in code: get url http://...; WITH MESSAGES Meaning that the current handler stops what it's doing waiting for the HTTP fetch to complete, but you can still resize the window, watch GIFs animate, and even click buttons. 2. Previous request errors... You'll get these because of the behavior that PUT URL has (the fact that it allows messages to keep being processed). This behavior is actually a good thing, but means you need to be careful. For example, if you have a button that does a PUT URL on mouseUp, you can click that button many times really fast, and all of them will execute and yield in their handlers once they get to the PUT URL command. The first one will be in the process of fetching the URL when the second one hits the same line of code and trip the previous request error. --- Now on to solutions... I've found 2 solutions to this problem that appear to work best. 1. Use LOAD URL exclusively whenever you can. Sadly, this approach fails if you have to do any POST commands, because you can't perform a POST with a callback; it always acts like a PUT URL. This means the POST can fail. But, when it does fail, it fails instantly, you know it failed, and you can try again immediately. 2. Don't trust the LOAD URL message queue that Rev comes with built-in. Sadly, while their message queue for loading URLs is just fine, it doesn't let you inspect it (you can't tell if a URL is currently being loaded, what it is, or what the status of it is). Instead, roll your own. This also has the nice ability of being able to debug easily: global gHttpCmdQ on postHttpCmd pAction, pURL, pTarget, pCallback get gHttpCmdQ is empty ## insert the command onto the queue to be processed later put pAction tab pURL tab pTarget tab pCallback cr after gHttpCmdQ ## if there were no commands on the queue, process this new one now if it is true then processHttpCmds end if end postHttpCmd on processHttpCmds local tAction local tURL local tTarget local tCallback get the first line of gHttpCmdQ if it is empty then exit processHttpCmds end if ## pop the command off the queue delete the first line of gHttpCmdQ set the itemDelimiter to tab put item 1 of it into tAction put item 2 of it into tURL put item 3 of it into tTarget put item 5 of it into tCallback switch tAction case GET get URL tURL break case POST post ... break ## more command types here end switch if the result is not empty then dispatch tCallback to tTarget with error , the result else dispatch tCallback to tTarget with cached , it end if ## continue processing messages from the queue send processHttpCmds to me in 0 seconds end processHttpCmds --- Anyway, I use something very similar in my apps and I have yet to run into any problems. YMMV, though. HTH, Jeff M. On Mar 11, 2010, at 7:23 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: While working with Dan Friedman to diagnose some FTP issues, he came up with some questions I couldn't answer so I'm bringing them to y'all to see what we can find: 1. Is put url... a blocking command? I believe it's supposed to be, but find I can sometime do other things while it's running, including submitting subsequent put url... commands. 2. In such a circumstance, the second attempt to put url... meets with an error, Previous request not completed. I've found that once that error hits the original request sometimes runs into trouble, requiring me to use libUrlResetAll and try again. Is there a more graceful way to handle that error? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Regular expression
Thank you all. Talking about Regular Expressions, one more question. If I have more than one string matching the Regex I expect the command matchChunk returns more than a couple of numbers, Consider this script: on mouseUp local mySource,myStart,myEnd,TESTO,myStart2,myEnd2 put xx src='HTTPWEB' width='3845' height='334' src='HTTPWEB' x into TESTO put empty into mySource put empty into myStart put empty into myEnd put matchChunk(TESTO,src='([^']*)',myStart,myEnd,myStart2,myEnd2) put myStart comma myEnd comma myStart2 comma myEnd2 end mouseUp This script returns 13,19,, . I exprected something like 13,19,57,63 , because now I have two strings matching src='([^']*)' . All the best Paolo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Customize headers in a datagrid
On Mar 11, 2010, at 1:35 AM, Ludovic Thébault wrote: It's possible to add a little icon before the label of a column ? You are wandering into undocumented territory but now seems like a good time to start documenting it. Here is some information that should help you out. Let's see if we can accomplish what you are trying to do and then I can move the relevant information into the manual. YOUR OPTIONS There are two ways you can manipulate how a column header behaves: 1) You can override the default behavior for column headers by setting the default header behavior property: set the dgProp[default header behavior] of group DataGrid to the long id of button MyCustomBehavior The default behavior is stored in button Default Header of stack revDataGridLibrary. You can create your custom behavior using that button script as a starting point. 2) You can create a custom column header template. You can specify a custom template for a column header by adding a control to the data grid template group named: COLUMN_NAME [Header] The Data Grid will use that control when drawing the column header. ONE APPROACH A simple solution for adding an icon would be to update to the column header behavior script to work with the HTMLText rather than the text. In the Default Header script is a dgLabel setProp: setprop dgLabel pValue set the text of field 1 of me to pValue end dgLabel You could create your own behavior script that did this: setprop dgLabel pValue set the htmltext of field 1 of me to pValue end dgLabel You can could then assign htmltext to the column label using img src to specify the image id you want to display: set the dgColumnLabel[ COLUMN_NAME ] of group DataGrid to img src=2000 My Label Let me know how it goes. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Releasable Revolution Resources for Developers: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Formating numbers in fields
I have been over alot of the other formatting threads on the list and can't exactly find what I am looking for. Basically, I have a field that is supposed to have the number format #.## in it. I want to set it up so that you can enter as many numbers as you want before the decimal but after the decimal it only shows and allows you to enter two numbers. I have tried doing this several ways and just cannot come up with one that works as it should. This should be simple for the code guerrillas on this list. the logic I have pinned down so far. on keydown if . is in the field and if . key is being pressed don't pass keydown if . is in the field then check to see if . is in char -3 if . is not in char -3 then ? end keydown Serious brainfart. halp? Andrew Kluthe -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Formating-numbers-in-fields-tp1589177p1589177.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lubURL nuances
Jeffrey, while I don't trust load url either, you can inspect information thru the combination of callbacks like: libURLSetStatusCallback downloadstatusbroadcaster, the long ID of stack program load URL tURL with message DownloadQueueCallback The callback called downloadstatusbroadcaster will trigger whenever revolution updates the url status, the other callback DownloadQueueCallback will trigger when it finishes its job may it be because the file is complete or due to error. So by using them both you get a good picture of what is happening. What I do for my network heavy app is roll my own queue so that I only start one load call after the previous one is complete may it be due to error or success and I inspect and track the current load call with those callbacks on top. works quite well, this is from production app with lots of users. Cheers andre On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Jeffrey Massung mass...@gmail.com wrote: Richard, I've spent quite a bit of time figuring out #1 and #2 of your question list. I have a couple... URL intensive apps, and I used to get the previous request error all the time. Here's what I've learned through experimentation. 1. Blocking... The PUT URL command is only blocking _within the context of the current handler_. You can think of it as if it was written like so in code: get url http://...; WITH MESSAGES Meaning that the current handler stops what it's doing waiting for the HTTP fetch to complete, but you can still resize the window, watch GIFs animate, and even click buttons. 2. Previous request errors... You'll get these because of the behavior that PUT URL has (the fact that it allows messages to keep being processed). This behavior is actually a good thing, but means you need to be careful. For example, if you have a button that does a PUT URL on mouseUp, you can click that button many times really fast, and all of them will execute and yield in their handlers once they get to the PUT URL command. The first one will be in the process of fetching the URL when the second one hits the same line of code and trip the previous request error. --- Now on to solutions... I've found 2 solutions to this problem that appear to work best. 1. Use LOAD URL exclusively whenever you can. Sadly, this approach fails if you have to do any POST commands, because you can't perform a POST with a callback; it always acts like a PUT URL. This means the POST can fail. But, when it does fail, it fails instantly, you know it failed, and you can try again immediately. 2. Don't trust the LOAD URL message queue that Rev comes with built-in. Sadly, while their message queue for loading URLs is just fine, it doesn't let you inspect it (you can't tell if a URL is currently being loaded, what it is, or what the status of it is). Instead, roll your own. This also has the nice ability of being able to debug easily: global gHttpCmdQ on postHttpCmd pAction, pURL, pTarget, pCallback get gHttpCmdQ is empty ## insert the command onto the queue to be processed later put pAction tab pURL tab pTarget tab pCallback cr after gHttpCmdQ ## if there were no commands on the queue, process this new one now if it is true then processHttpCmds end if end postHttpCmd on processHttpCmds local tAction local tURL local tTarget local tCallback get the first line of gHttpCmdQ if it is empty then exit processHttpCmds end if ## pop the command off the queue delete the first line of gHttpCmdQ set the itemDelimiter to tab put item 1 of it into tAction put item 2 of it into tURL put item 3 of it into tTarget put item 5 of it into tCallback switch tAction case GET get URL tURL break case POST post ... break ## more command types here end switch if the result is not empty then dispatch tCallback to tTarget with error , the result else dispatch tCallback to tTarget with cached , it end if ## continue processing messages from the queue send processHttpCmds to me in 0 seconds end processHttpCmds --- Anyway, I use something very similar in my apps and I have yet to run into any problems. YMMV, though. HTH, Jeff M. On Mar 11, 2010, at 7:23 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: While working with Dan Friedman to diagnose some FTP issues, he came up with some questions I couldn't answer so I'm bringing them to y'all to see what we can find: 1. Is put url... a blocking command? I believe it's supposed to be, but find I can sometime do other things while it's running, including submitting subsequent put url...
Re: Formating numbers in fields
On 11/03/2010 17:57, Andrew Kluthe wrote: I have been over alot of the other formatting threads on the list and can't exactly find what I am looking for. Basically, I have a field that is supposed to have the number format #.## in it. I want to set it up so that you can enter as many numbers as you want before the decimal but after the decimal it only shows and allows you to enter two numbers. I have tried doing this several ways and just cannot come up with one that works as it should. This should be simple for the code guerrillas on this list. the logic I have pinned down so far. on keydown if . is in the field and if . key is being pressed don't pass keydown if . is in the field then check to see if . is in char -3 if . is not in char -3 then ? end keydown Serious brainfart. halp? Andrew Kluthe I'm only a code gorilla . . . :) numberFormat Love, Richmond. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Formating numbers in fields
I tried setting that property and I must not know how to use it properly because I could not figure it or the documentation on it out. Do I set this as a property of the field and it handles all that for me? or? From the dictionary: Examples: set the numberFormat to #.00 -- dollar format set the numberFormat of scrollbar Progress to 0.0 so set the numberFormat of fld fLeasePaymentDollars tp #.## doesn't work. How do I use this thing? -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Formating-numbers-in-fields-tp1589177p1589213.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Update to 4.5.0-dp-2
Hello everyone, I'm using the enterprise version 4.0.0-gm-1 and I keep getting a reminder window inviting me to update to 4.5.0-dp-2. Does this new version work well or is it one of those where we're expected to play around and identify the bugs as it is being finalized? Just a little concerned about ongoing projects being mucked up. Regards, Gregory ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Update to 4.5.0-dp-2
dp is always developer preview, where gm means golden master (which in turn means final product). If you are working on a project, and therefore are concerned about stability, stay away from developer previews. If you want to test new features, or verify bugs, then use them for that. On 11 Mar 2010, at 17:27, Gregory Lypny wrote: Hello everyone, I'm using the enterprise version 4.0.0-gm-1 and I keep getting a reminder window inviting me to update to 4.5.0-dp-2. Does this new version work well or is it one of those where we're expected to play around and identify the bugs as it is being finalized? Just a little concerned about ongoing projects being mucked up. -- official ChatRev page: http://bjoernke.com?target=chatrev Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/chatrev1.3b3.rev; ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Formating numbers in fields
no, you cannot set the numberformat of a field. what you can do is (for example) this: on KeyUp --after someone entered something into the field set the numberformat to #.00 put the selectedChunk of me into theTempSelection --retain selection add 0 to me --force numberformat select char (word 2 of theTempSelection) to (word 4 of theTempSelection) of me end KeyUp Note that this is a rather evil approach, mostly because there's no way to enter the right hand parts without using arrow navigation or mouse selection. Also, the code throws an error when a point or any non-number char is entered. Maybe it's more advantageous to use two fields, or only check on exitField and closeField, because there it's not as intrusive to interpret and remove wrong chars or double dots etc. but that of course depends on what you've actually planned. Finally, these messages might also need to be handled: on pasteKey on cutKey on closeField On 11 Mar 2010, at 17:16, Andrew Kluthe wrote: I tried setting that property and I must not know how to use it properly because I could not figure it or the documentation on it out. Do I set this as a property of the field and it handles all that for me? or? From the dictionary: Examples: set the numberFormat to #.00 -- dollar format set the numberFormat of scrollbar Progress to 0.0 so set the numberFormat of fld fLeasePaymentDollars tp #.## doesn't work. How do I use this thing? -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Formating-numbers-in-fields-tp1589177p1589213.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Formating numbers in fields
On 11/03/2010 18:16, Andrew Kluthe wrote: I tried setting that property and I must not know how to use it properly because I could not figure it or the documentation on it out. Do I set this as a property of the field and it handles all that for me? or? From the dictionary: Examples: set the numberFormat to #.00 -- dollar format set the numberFormat of scrollbar Progress to 0.0 so set the numberFormat of fld fLeasePaymentDollars tp #.## doesn't work. How do I use this thing? Probably because you are making a mess with your quotes . . . :) Try this: http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/STUFF/CRUNCH.rev.zip works perfectly! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Update to 4.5.0-dp-2
Gregory, I tried to update, but after downloading installing ect. I get the Failed to Update Try again? Mike On Mar 11, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Gregory Lypny wrote: Hello everyone, I'm using the enterprise version 4.0.0-gm-1 and I keep getting a reminder window inviting me to update to 4.5.0-dp-2. Does this new version work well or is it one of those where we're expected to play around and identify the bugs as it is being finalized? Just a little concerned about ongoing projects being mucked up. Regards, Gregory ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Formating numbers in fields
Pefect BvG (is it ok if I call you BvG?)! This is exactly what I was looking for and tried to do but couldn't get to work right on keydown. The closeField handler makes it do EXACTLY what I want. Thanks a mill. Andrew K -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Formating-numbers-in-fields-tp1589177p1589316.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lubURL nuances
On 11 Mar 2010, at 13:23, Richard Gaskin wrote: While working with Dan Friedman to diagnose some FTP issues, he came up with some questions I couldn't answer so I'm bringing them to y'all to see what we can find: 1. Is put url... a blocking command? I believe it's supposed to be, but find I can sometime do other things while it's running, including submitting subsequent put url... commands. Jeffrey's post answers this. 2. In such a circumstance, the second attempt to put url... meets with an error, Previous request not completed. I've found that once that error hits the original request sometimes runs into trouble, requiring me to use libUrlResetAll and try again. Is there a more graceful way to handle that error? While the error message is correct, I don't know why it should affect the previous request. The only possible cause I can see is the way the error is returned from libUrl. It uses some unusual syntax which is only available to libUrl. ( return error Previous request not completed with empty) The engine handles these return statements, and depending what follows the with, it may do some clean-up. (deleting script variables to avoid the script having to copy the variables before returning). So perhaps something goes wrong at times and it deletes when it shouldn't. (This is pure speculation.) But if you're using get url or other blocking calls, I'd suggest you try to prevent users (or your script) from making subsequent calls until the get has returned. Disable the user interface, etc. 3. libUrlResetAll comes with a warning not to use it. :) But I've found it the simplest, most reliable way to cancel all socket activity and start fresh. If that's your goal, to reset all socket stuff and start fresh, is there some downside to using libUrlResetAll that I've overlooked? It will reliably close *all* sockets and delete all script variables in libUrl. The consequences of closing all sockets is clear enough. The deleting of script variables is less clear. I haven't tested this in recent engine builds, but it used to be that those variables weren't always immediately deleted. I'm guessing the engine waited for an idle to do the deletion. So if you had something like the following within a handler: 1. get url someUrl 2. libUrlResetAll 3. get url someOtherUrl line 3 might start the url call but fail when its script variables were suddenly removed in the middle of its activity. So if you're going to use it in your scripts, be sure there's a pause of some kind before making subsequent url calls. Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Formating numbers in fields
Le 11 mars 10 à 16:57, Andrew Kluthe a écrit : I have been over alot of the other formatting threads on the list and can't exactly find what I am looking for. Basically, I have a field that is supposed to have the number format #.## in it. I want to set it up so that you can enter as many numbers as you want before the decimal but after the decimal it only shows and allows you to enter two numbers. I have tried doing this several ways and just cannot come up with one that works as it should. This should be simple for the code guerrillas on this list. the logic I have pinned down so far. on keydown if . is in the field and if . key is being pressed don't pass keydown if . is in the field then check to see if . is in char -3 if . is not in char -3 then ? end keydown Serious brainfart. halp? Bonjour, You might want to have a look at the tutorial from Éric Chatonet #020 How to master users data in entry boxes at So Smart Software: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/?r=revolution_didacticielsl=en I just tried the following (following one your idea: - make a field entryBox - and a field allData In the script of the field entryBox: on keydown pKey if pKey is an integer or pKey is . then pass keydown -- allow numbers only on rawKeyUp local decimal, - if fld entryBox contains . and char -3 of fld entryBox is . then put fld entryBox cr after fld allData put empty into fld entryBox end if end rawKeyUp --- HTH Best regards from Grenoble André ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Update to 4.5.0-dp-2
are you doing this under a non admin account? Le 11 mars 2010 à 18:10, Michael Robinson a écrit : Gregory, I tried to update, but after downloading installing ect. I get the Failed to Update Try again? Mike ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] tRev build 301 released!
Jacopo, Download tRev.app again right now from the site. I think your problem is solved. Let me know what you find via email? je...@reveditor.com Best, Jerry Daniels The latest Rev Editor Video: http://reveditor.com/background-tabs-open-a-tab-without-going-ther On Mar 11, 2010, at 3:42 AM, Jacopo Lupi wrote: Hi Jerry, thank you for this big release. I mean... i love your software, some of the features of tRev are really useful and at the end of the work i feel i have to thank you. I write just to make you noticed that the annoying bug with the absence of an internet connection is still there. If i'm not connected to internet (i.e. while in train 3 hrs per day) i'm not able to use the save, compile or even to open scripts via the browser. It happened only if i use the dictionary while offline an then i turn back to trev to continue work. I sent you, a couple of weeks ago, a report to replicate the bug. The worst thing then is that i must copy the script from trev to the internal editor. Because as trev loses the connection all the changes are not been written to the script. Can you fix this connection dependent issue? Or maybe alert the user when trev is unable to write on the real script underlaying in runrev? Thank You very much for all your work. Best Jacopo On 10/mar/2010, at 19.27, Jerry Daniels wrote: tRevors, Feature Friday came late and for good reason. I have rebuilt the update and installation mechanism for tRev so that updates and such are faster, easier, fool-proof, asynchronous and offer less interference with other processes such as Rev IDE doing its accessing to its site during its startup. There is also a built-in menu item under Help that facilitates sending questions to me (which also reinforces the need to read the docs first). Stay tuned for this coming Feature Friday. Little game-changing goin' on. Best, Jerry Daniels ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Answer dialog Problems
I have a stack that opens as modal. When this stack's answer dialog pops up, it will not allow me to click ok. I can still interact with the modal stack though. When I exit the modal stack I can hit ok on the answer dialog. When this stack is in toplevel it performs normally. Can I not use answer on modals? Also, the answer in question has HTML Formating in it. It works fine. answer You have some problems that need fixed before you can add this record: cr sFlags brbr-Payment details not saved.br-Click Edit to Fix the invalid entries and try again. But almost the same answer on another similar stack, does not. answer You have some problems that need fixed before you can add this record: cr sFlags brbr-Payment not added.br-Fix the invalid entries and try again. The html is the same and aside from a few words the answer statements are the same. What gives? -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Answer-dialog-Problems-tp1589563p1589563.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Answer dialog Problems
A script was stealing focus of the modal, but still no explanation for the HTML problem. -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Answer-dialog-Problems-tp1589563p1589572.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Answer dialog Problems
Andrew, I am not sure why one sentence works and the other doesn't, but HTML text for the answer dialog should be surrounded by p and /p. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new software development projects. Feel free to contact me for a quote. Op 11 mrt 2010, om 20:01 heeft Andrew Kluthe het volgende geschreven: I have a stack that opens as modal. When this stack's answer dialog pops up, it will not allow me to click ok. I can still interact with the modal stack though. When I exit the modal stack I can hit ok on the answer dialog. When this stack is in toplevel it performs normally. Can I not use answer on modals? Also, the answer in question has HTML Formating in it. It works fine. answer You have some problems that need fixed before you can add this record: cr sFlags brbr-Payment details not saved.br- Click Edit to Fix the invalid entries and try again. But almost the same answer on another similar stack, does not. answer You have some problems that need fixed before you can add this record: cr sFlags brbr-Payment not added.br-Fix the invalid entries and try again. The html is the same and aside from a few words the answer statements are the same. What gives? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Answer dialog Problems
Ah, thanks. I'll try that. I read on here that it looks for a p tag to interpret html but my first statement didn't have a p tag so I assumed it was something else. -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Answer-dialog-Problems-tp1589563p1589601.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Update to 4.5.0-dp-2
Thanks for the heads-up Bj?rnke and Michael, I think I'll pass on the update for now. Gregory ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
error message format
Ola... I am reading a stack from a website in a standalone application. 99.99% of my clients are fine. However, every now and then, they report this error (which is the result): socket timeout ###.###.###.##:80|6924 Now, I get everything ([IP]:[port]) except, what does the 6924 refer to? Hope I'm not being to stupid!Thanks in advance... -Dan___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: error message format
Dan, The number 6924 is the ID of the connection. It allows mutliple computers with the same global IP address to connect to your server and it allows one computer to open multiple connections. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new software development projects. Feel free to contact me for a quote. Op 11 mrt 2010, om 20:54 heeft Dan Friedman het volgende geschreven: Ola... I am reading a stack from a website in a standalone application. 99.99% of my clients are fine. However, every now and then, they report this error (which is the result): socket timeout ###.###.###.##:80|6924 Now, I get everything ([IP]:[port]) except, what does the 6924 refer to? Hope I'm not being to stupid!Thanks in advance... -Dan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lubURL nuances
FWIW, we have mostly migrating from libURL to using cURL for downloads and uploads. The nice thing about cURL is that if there is a disconnect 90% of the way through transferring a large file, cURL will resume from where it left off. Also it seems rock solid and reliable. On Mar 11, 2010, at 5:23 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: While working with Dan Friedman to diagnose some FTP issues, he came up with some questions I couldn't answer so I'm bringing them to y'all to see what we can find: 1. Is put url... a blocking command? I believe it's supposed to be, but find I can sometime do other things while it's running, including submitting subsequent put url... commands. 2. In such a circumstance, the second attempt to put url... meets with an error, Previous request not completed. I've found that once that error hits the original request sometimes runs into trouble, requiring me to use libUrlResetAll and try again. Is there a more graceful way to handle that error? 3. libUrlResetAll comes with a warning not to use it. :) But I've found it the simplest, most reliable way to cancel all socket activity and start fresh. If that's your goal, to reset all socket stuff and start fresh, is there some downside to using libUrlResetAll that I've overlooked? TIA - -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Data Matrix
I am looking for a library for creating a data matrix in Revolution. I did not find an example with Revolution. I found libdmtx, an open source software for reading and writing Data Matrix 2D barcodes on Linux, Unix, OS X, Windows, and mobile devices. But I found only binary for command line tools for windows and I am not qualified to compile the code to create command line tools Mac OS. Have you already created a data matrix with Revolution ? Is there a volunteer to create an external/library ? Thank you in advance for your help. Jerome ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lubURL nuances
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:19 AM, Josh Mellicker j...@dvcreators.net wrote: FWIW, we have mostly migrating from libURL to using cURL for downloads and uploads. The nice thing about cURL is that if there is a disconnect 90% of the way through transferring a large file, cURL will resume from where it left off. Also it seems rock solid and reliable. Is this a cross-platform solution Josh? I know Mac OS X has curl pre-installed, and I assume Linux has, but what about the various versions of Windows? Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lubURL nuances
Sarah, You can bundle it inside your standalone and pipe it out when you launch the application. cURL is free (as in really free). Cheers andre On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Sarah Reichelt sarah.reich...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:19 AM, Josh Mellicker j...@dvcreators.net wrote: FWIW, we have mostly migrating from libURL to using cURL for downloads and uploads. The nice thing about cURL is that if there is a disconnect 90% of the way through transferring a large file, cURL will resume from where it left off. Also it seems rock solid and reliable. Is this a cross-platform solution Josh? I know Mac OS X has curl pre-installed, and I assume Linux has, but what about the various versions of Windows? Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
cantSelect
Back with this. I am irked by the fact that when an object's cantSelect property is true, messages like mouseUp are not sent when clicking with the pointer tool. I know I expect a lot in editing mode already, but the docs say it should be so. mouseEnter and mouseLeave are sent, but no other ordinary ones. The message watcher shows certain ubiquitous messages being sent in this condition, like cRevGetsUpdate, but I cannot trap it (though I suspect I will be told not to play with fire). Isn't there a list of these top secret messages somewhere, and how to get to them? Thanks, Craig Newman ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cantSelect
Craig- Thursday, March 11, 2010, 2:28:25 PM, you wrote: The message watcher shows certain ubiquitous messages being sent in this condition, like cRevGetsUpdate, but I cannot trap it (though I suspect I will be told not to play with fire). Isn't there a list of these top secret messages somewhere, and how to get to them? That sounds more like a setprop handler firing. Are you sure that was a message? If it turns out to be a setprop event you might be able to trap it with your own setprop handler, although if it's a builtin property you're out of luck. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cantSelect
Mark. If I suppress setProps in the message watcher it still comes up. It has to be a system message. Craig In a message dated 3/11/10 5:58:27 PM, mwie...@ahsoftware.net writes: That sounds more like a setprop handler firing. Are you sure that was a message? If it turns out to be a setprop event you might be able to trap it with your own setprop handler, although if it's a builtin property you're out of luck. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lubURL nuances
I am sure its cross-platform because I have a Realbasic plugin that uses it on all three platforms. Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software www.abrohamnealsoftware.com (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER Amateur Radio: K3NC Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/ DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/ On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Sarah Reichelt sarah.reich...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:19 AM, Josh Mellicker j...@dvcreators.net wrote: FWIW, we have mostly migrating from libURL to using cURL for downloads and uploads. The nice thing about cURL is that if there is a disconnect 90% of the way through transferring a large file, cURL will resume from where it left off. Also it seems rock solid and reliable. Is this a cross-platform solution Josh? I know Mac OS X has curl pre-installed, and I assume Linux has, but what about the various versions of Windows? Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cantSelect
Craig- Thursday, March 11, 2010, 3:18:51 PM, you wrote: If I suppress setProps in the message watcher it still comes up. It has to be a system message. From the messagebox type revVerboseDebug true then run your test and set it back to false. Look for a file called verboseLog.txt (should be where the Revolution Launcher is). That'll give you a log file that might give you more hints. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: Best Option for Web Delivered Voice Overs
Looking forward to future slideshows either distributed as revlets or as javascripted/jQuery enhanced web slideshows which are produced by a RunRev desktop client toolbox (Almost everything I do on our web sites is facilitated with some kind of in-house production widgets... as I am sure is the case with most old-time RunRevolutionaries) I am looking any input from experienced sound producers in our field for the following. Some of this may be fairly obvious, but everytime I pose a query like this to this list I always get some nugget of useful info that I did not know or think of before: 1) MP3 Settings: for voice over narration: what would be the best MP3 (lowest you think is reasonable) settings for files that woudl be played along with a slide. 2) Optimum format for Voice Over: Is MP3 the best format for voice over? Will it play out of the box in a hidden QT player object on both Mac and Windows? 3) Embedded Clips: Has any one embedded sound clips into a revlet? AIFF and WAV seem horribly expensive in terms of bytes added to the stack vs streaming short mp3's from the web server. But perhas AU is small and OK for voice... comments? 4) Text to Speech: How is text to speech working these days on Windows? is this a viable option for revlets... some kinds of kids stuff will do just fine with a computer voice reading the English. 5) Production Work Flow Strategies: Any other insights will be appreciated. you can get a Samson USB mic these days really cheap on Amazon.dot and the quality is excellent. It would be marvelous to build a stack, show slides, record on the fly, save and deploy, but I don't think it's going to be that easy... Especially if MP3 is the optimum format, it means stepping out of revolution into Audacity.. Processing clips and going back to set up the QT player to the external file. Or assuming you were really, really good with narration and required no edits: Switch to batch process all the narrations at once after saving as aiff -- process out to .mp3 ... 15 short VO's at average 2-8 secs each will be fast. Goal: production-work flow that gets from 15 photos with voice capture to a slideshow with VO on the web in under 45min. (assumes of course your narration is either ad lib or pre-scripted...) Thanks for your patience with my mine the list queries Sivakatirswami ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lubURL nuances
On Mar 11, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:19 AM, Josh Mellicker j...@dvcreators.net wrote: FWIW, we have mostly migrating from libURL to using cURL for downloads and uploads. The nice thing about cURL is that if there is a disconnect 90% of the way through transferring a large file, cURL will resume from where it left off. Also it seems rock solid and reliable. Is this a cross-platform solution Josh? I know Mac OS X has curl pre-installed, and I assume Linux has, but what about the various versions of Windows? We've had great luck with XP/Vista/Windows 7. Only change in the process command from OS X is the addition of .exe (and the path). We have thousands of Windows users, almost no problems. There is a couple to few seconds lag time in read from process... in other words, a file finishes downloading, and our progress bar is still moving for a few seconds, then reports that it's done. No big deal, but I wonder, would an external eliminate some of this delay?___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cantSelect
DunbarX wrote: I am irked by the fact that when an object's cantSelect property is true, messages like mouseUp are not sent when clicking with the pointer tool. I know I expect a lot in editing mode already, but the docs say it should be so. mouseEnter and mouseLeave are sent, but no other ordinary ones. The message watcher shows certain ubiquitous messages being sent in this condition, like cRevGetsUpdate, but I cannot trap it (though I suspect I will be told not to play with fire). Isn't there a list of these top secret messages somewhere, and how to get to them? It's trapped by the IDE whenever the pointer tool is active in order to prevent layout operations from triggering mouseUp handlers designed for browse tool use. I submitted a request in 2006 to have this noted in the docs: 'Dictionary entries should note when message behavior is altered by the IDE' http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=2235 If you can describe a bit more about what you're looking to do, Imay be able to help find a solution for your circumstance. I've spent a lot of time working around this in both Rev and MC, and working around the workaround in a standalone where this isn't an issue (but other pointer tool things are). I much prefer the way SC handles the pointer tool, splitting messages so there's a separate suite for when the pointer tool is active: 'Add pointerDown, pointerUp, pointerDoubleUp, etc. for when pointer tool is active' http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=2606 Many such circumstances could be avoided altogether if we had the ability to limit the scope of a tool mode to a group: 'tool property for groups/creating objects in groups interactively' http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=623 -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
