Re: So you CAN build an OS X app from another system...
On 06/12/2010 05:32 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: ...if that system is Linux. Earlier here we discussed the difficulty of making Mac builds from other OSes, and at the time we were focused on Windows. I just ran this simple test on Ubuntu 10.04: 1. Make a Mac standalone 2. Zipped it 3. Copied the Zip file via USB drive (FAT16, FWIW) to my Mac 4. Unzipped it 5. Double-clicked it RESULT: Ran just fine. Apparently since both OS X and Linux have the same Unix executable bit, it carries over across platforms. I've been lusting after the Lemur UltraThin from System76: http://www.system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=28products_id=97 Knowing that I can build for all three platforms from that system pushes a bit closer to getting one Font detection ? How are you going to be sure that your stack, made on Linux, is going to behave itself on Mac when: 1. There is no real parity with fonts. 2. On Linux RunRev cannot even detect user-installed fonts. Time and time again; whether moving standalones from Mac-Win, Win-Lin, Mac-Lin, and so on for all the possible combinations; the thing that has gone wonky has been the font display. I always take a stack over to the target platform and then go through, text field by text field checking the font display; and , often as not, muttering dark thoughts and resetting the font settings. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Opaque stack resizer
Hi Simon: I'm not sure if Shao Sean's Mac external offers something here, but there is no built-in property you can change. Your scripted solution will likely never be as snappy as the built-in behavior, but one thing you might try is enabling liveResizing on the stack. I've found this usually makes for faster updating when stack is resized. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design On Jun 11, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Simon Lord sl...@karbonized.com wrote: The resize widget on the bottom right of my stack has a colour to it. It doesn't match the background of my stack. Is there any way to change this value? I've cobbled together a script to resize the stack by dragging an icon around but the result is less then snappy—it's downright sluggish. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Shell Command with Sudo
Thanks to all who replied. With you help and some additional research I came up with a solution. Mac OS X bash shell only allows results from commands to be piped in to another command, including sudo, not plain text. The solution is to set a bash variable (pw=password) and echo the variable to pipe it into sudo (echo $pw | sudo -S command). In Rev you must set the variable and pipe it in on the same shell() call. Like this: shell(pw= tPassword ; echo $pw | sudo -S command) Works like a charm, and it's an elegant solution without a lot of hashed code. I have not tested this on other Unix based systems but the command should work on any system with bash as the default shell. Happy coding! - Justin On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 6:51 PM, David Bovill da...@vaudevillecourt.tv wrote: Don't think expect is the right way to do this - best would be to use an ssh key (seem to remember that is how I used to do this back when i was on Linux with Metacard), or else to write a bash script as a text file and then get rev to execute that. On 11 June 2010 16:33, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Justin, I always though you could not pipe passwords into sudo. One way to do this kind of stuff is to use the expect tool. http://expect.sourceforge.net/ With expect you can automate many command line things. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Shell Command with Sudo
Is there a reason you cannot use the NOPASSWD option in sudo? Maybe this is not how it works in OSX, but what you'd normally do is to edit /etc/sudoers to allow this particular user to perform this particular command with the no password option, and its done. If you do this, the command can be limited to one with specific options. For instance, you can allow shutdown with the -h option, but not the -r option. No-one has to know the root password then and it is not written anyplace. Yes, you do have to know it to edit /etc/sudoers. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Shell-Command-with-Sudo-tp2251593p2252593.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Shell Command with Sudo
On 06/12/2010 12:08 PM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: Is there a reason you cannot use the NOPASSWD option in sudo? Maybe this is not how it works in OSX, but what you'd normally do is to edit /etc/sudoers to allow this particular user to perform this particular command with the no password option, and its done. If you do this, the command can be limited to one with specific options. For instance, you can allow shutdown with the -h option, but not the -r option. No-one has to know the root password then and it is not written anyplace. Yes, you do have to know it to edit /etc/sudoers. This is all very charming, but I wonder how one would effect this from a standalone on an end-user's machine . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: So you CAN build an OS X app from another system...
Richard, I've seen your posts on this subject several times now and I never thought it was a real problem. I have now actually done a test on Win XP, building a standalone on a PC, zipping it and copying it over to a Mac OS X Leopard machine. The standalone runs fine. Under which circumstances doesn't the standalone run exactly? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new projects. Contact me for a quote http://economy-x-talk.com/contact.html Download Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com and share the clipboard of your computer over the local network. On 12 jun 2010, at 04:32, Richard Gaskin wrote: ...if that system is Linux. Earlier here we discussed the difficulty of making Mac builds from other OSes, and at the time we were focused on Windows. I just ran this simple test on Ubuntu 10.04: 1. Make a Mac standalone 2. Zipped it 3. Copied the Zip file via USB drive (FAT16, FWIW) to my Mac 4. Unzipped it 5. Double-clicked it RESULT: Ran just fine. Apparently since both OS X and Linux have the same Unix executable bit, it carries over across platforms. I've been lusting after the Lemur UltraThin from System76: http://www.system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=28products_id=97 Knowing that I can build for all three platforms from that system pushes a bit closer to getting one -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: runrev community : how many licenses? How many users? How many developpers?
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, I must have been lucky. If I zoom in a max, my flag puts me just in front of my computer, in the living room ! However, the flag doesn't tell me which way I am facing . :) -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: So you CAN build an OS X app from another system...
On 06/12/2010 12:28 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Richard, I've seen your posts on this subject several times now and I never thought it was a real problem. I have now actually done a test on Win XP, building a standalone on a PC, zipping it and copying it over to a Mac OS X Leopard machine. The standalone runs fine. Under which circumstances doesn't the standalone run exactly? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new projects. Contact me for a quote http://economy-x-talk.com/contact.html Download Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com and share the clipboard of your computer over the local network. On 12 jun 2010, at 04:32, Richard Gaskin wrote: ...if that system is Linux. Earlier here we discussed the difficulty of making Mac builds from other OSes, and at the time we were focused on Windows. I just ran this simple test on Ubuntu 10.04: 1. Make a Mac standalone 2. Zipped it 3. Copied the Zip file via USB drive (FAT16, FWIW) to my Mac 4. Unzipped it 5. Double-clicked it RESULT: Ran just fine. Apparently since both OS X and Linux have the same Unix executable bit, it carries over across platforms. I've been lusting after the Lemur UltraThin from System76: http://www.system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=28products_id=97 I'm not surprised: it looks fantastic. My only worry would be if something went wrong and I had to open the case. Knowing that I can build for all three platforms from that system pushes a bit closer to getting one -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: runrev community : how many licenses? How many users? How many developpers?
On 06/12/2010 12:30 PM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Hi from Beautiful Brittany, I must have been lucky. If I zoom in a max, my flag puts me just in front of my computer, in the living room ! However, the flag doesn't tell me which way I am facing . :) Considering Google seem to have been tapping into people's wireless internet, if you know where to look you will probably find a description of the type of toilet paper you prefer . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Periodic Table of Typefaces
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, It's on my wall - love it ! I'm sure even Mendeleev would have loved it too ! But according to the rules, this means we can define certain characteristics of character fonts that have not yet been discovered . :) -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Shell Command with Sudo
Peter, That is a good suggestion if the application was not meant for mass deployment. Otherwise each machine's sudoers file would have to be edited accordingly, which would be a bummer for users that do not know how to do so. And that is likely the majority of Mac users. I would venture to say that the majority of Mac users never even opened the Terminal. The solution is elegant, I believe, in that it will work on any Mac OS X machine and takes advantage of Bash' s flexibility with Rev's shell structure. Happy coding! - Justin On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/12/2010 12:08 PM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: Is there a reason you cannot use the NOPASSWD option in sudo? Maybe this is not how it works in OSX, but what you'd normally do is to edit /etc/sudoers to allow this particular user to perform this particular command with the no password option, and its done. If you do this, the command can be limited to one with specific options. For instance, you can allow shutdown with the -h option, but not the -r option. No-one has to know the root password then and it is not written anyplace. Yes, you do have to know it to edit /etc/sudoers. This is all very charming, but I wonder how one would effect this from a standalone on an end-user's machine . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Opaque stack resizer
Hi Simon, The resize widget on the bottom right of my stack has a colour to it. It doesn't match the background of my stack. Is there any way to change this value? I've cobbled together a script to resize the stack by dragging an icon around but the result is less then snappy—it's downright sluggish. the resize widget is a button (if we mean the same thingie)! So you can just set its icon to empty and its ink to noop and that's it :-) If you want its icon to have the right color, then you will have to edit the image shown in the button or use your own image for this resizer. Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Opaque stack resizer
Klaus, how would I target this resize widget? The closest thing I can find in the dictionary is resizeControl which doesn't appear to be what I thought it was. On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.com wrote: Hi Simon, The resize widget on the bottom right of my stack has a colour to it. It doesn't match the background of my stack. Is there any way to change this value? I've cobbled together a script to resize the stack by dragging an icon around but the result is less then snappy—it's downright sluggish. the resize widget is a button (if we mean the same thingie)! So you can just set its icon to empty and its ink to noop and that's it :-) If you want its icon to have the right color, then you will have to edit the image shown in the button or use your own image for this resizer. Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: So you CAN build an OS X app from another system...
On the subject of creating *nix builds from windows I had a thought. How difficult would it be to setup a virtualbox linux setup with a simple script.. or even a rev app, that you feed a folder to, it will copy it in to the linux virtual, set the execution bit zip it up, and copy it back out into the windows file system? Or if one prefers, if hfsplus is installed, a script like the one here. http://confluence.concord.org/display/CCTR/Creating+MacOS+dmg+files+in+Linux could be used to create dmg files. If nothing else, its easy enough to set the execution bit by hand as well as zip everything up, so the only real requirement is to setup the linux virtualbox. DSL is tiny, resource efficient, and runs great. On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 3:31 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/12/2010 12:28 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Richard, I've seen your posts on this subject several times now and I never thought it was a real problem. I have now actually done a test on Win XP, building a standalone on a PC, zipping it and copying it over to a Mac OS X Leopard machine. The standalone runs fine. Under which circumstances doesn't the standalone run exactly? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new projects. Contact me for a quote http://economy-x-talk.com/contact.html Download Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com and share the clipboard of your computer over the local network. On 12 jun 2010, at 04:32, Richard Gaskin wrote: ...if that system is Linux. Earlier here we discussed the difficulty of making Mac builds from other OSes, and at the time we were focused on Windows. I just ran this simple test on Ubuntu 10.04: 1. Make a Mac standalone 2. Zipped it 3. Copied the Zip file via USB drive (FAT16, FWIW) to my Mac 4. Unzipped it 5. Double-clicked it RESULT: Ran just fine. Apparently since both OS X and Linux have the same Unix executable bit, it carries over across platforms. I've been lusting after the Lemur UltraThin from System76: http://www.system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=28products_id=97 I'm not surprised: it looks fantastic. My only worry would be if something went wrong and I had to open the case. Knowing that I can build for all three platforms from that system pushes a bit closer to getting one -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Opaque stack resizer
Hi Simon, Klaus, how would I target this resize widget? The closest thing I can find in the dictionary is resizeControl which doesn't appear to be what I thought it was. ??? Sorry, don't know what you mean? I placed that fully functional(!) widget from the Object library in my stack removed its icon and set the ink of that namely button to noop in the Inspector. After that the (now invisible) button still worked. What am I missing? Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Opaque stack resizer
No it does, but I have to say that Shao's external is one of the most useful I've found so far. I wish there were more I could look at but I'm having a hard time finding them all. For instance, I'm DYING to have rounded corners on the bottom of my stack but the only way to do this is with the Metal texture which adds fat borders. Shao's external removes the borders but also the rounded corners. There's always *something* missing. :P On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: Hi Simon: I'm not sure if Shao Sean's Mac external offers something here, but there is no built-in property you can change. Your scripted solution will likely never be as snappy as the built-in behavior, but one thing you might try is enabling liveResizing on the stack. I've found this usually makes for faster updating when stack is resized. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design On Jun 11, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Simon Lord sl...@karbonized.com wrote: The resize widget on the bottom right of my stack has a colour to it. It doesn't match the background of my stack. Is there any way to change this value? I've cobbled together a script to resize the stack by dragging an icon around but the result is less then snappy—it's downright sluggish. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Opaque stack resizer
Ok, I figured out what you're talking about. The Object Library is something new to me since I last used MetaCard (never used RunRev until a few weeks ago). It works, but it's as sluggish as my two-liner code...the refresh rate (even with lockscreen) is very noticeable. drag grc drag-handle set the rect of this stack to the left of this stack, the top of this stack, the right of img drag-handle + the left of this stack, the bottom of img drag-handle + the top of this stack Thanks Klaus, at least I learned something. :) On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.com wrote: Hi Simon, Klaus, how would I target this resize widget? The closest thing I can find in the dictionary is resizeControl which doesn't appear to be what I thought it was. ??? Sorry, don't know what you mean? I placed that fully functional(!) widget from the Object library in my stack removed its icon and set the ink of that namely button to noop in the Inspector. After that the (now invisible) button still worked. What am I missing? Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] G4 goes West
Back from the dead (or very nearly): Well: I removed one of the hard disks in the G4 MDD from the cage that sits over the heat sink; allowing me space to install an 80 mm 12 v fan directly on top of the heat sink with those funny rubber doodahs to keep it in place: power drawn from the HD cage supply. Took out my antiquated SCSI PCI card (saved it for the day when I need what is saved on my ZIP disks) and inserted a USB2 card. Put 2 PCI slot cooler fans back to back in 2 of the 3 PCI slots between the Video card and the USB2 card; jacked them into the power supply for the other 2 hard disks. Unscrewed the internal speaker from the 'hole' at the top front of the MDD and taped it with electrical tape to the top of the DVD drive housing; left the plastic grid on the hole: now acts as an air intake. However; spent yesterday trawling round all the computer shops in Plovdiv, Bulgaria in search of PCI slot fans: in 8 shops I was told: 1. They don't exist (one chap actually told me I was fantasizing). 2. Why would you need them anyway. I then printed out a picture of a PCI slot fan and went round all the shops again; the 'fantasy' man told me I was mad and had faked up the picture ! Eventually saw a hole in the wall repair shop; went in and the chap there was on the phone to a warehouse in Sofia lickety-split; and I collected the 2 fans this morning. Went round to see the 'fantasy' man and waved the PCI slot cards under his nose . . . :) And the moral of my story is: don't try to be clever with computers in Plovdiv, Bulgaria. I took a few photos and will post them on my website in the next few days. AFTER I have restored all my software . . . :( - Average temperature from the sensors is now 20 degs Centigrade lower ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Opaque stack resizer
Hi Simon, Ok, I figured out what you're talking about. The Object Library is something new to me since I last used MetaCard (never used RunRev until a few weeks ago). It works, but it's as sluggish as my two-liner code...the refresh rate (even with lockscreen) is very noticeable. drag grc drag-handle set the rect of this stack to the left of this stack, the top of this stack, the right of img drag-handle + the left of this stack, the bottom of img drag-handle + the top of this stack Thanks Klaus, at least I learned something. :) at least something... :-D Best from rainy germany Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
WDEF identifiers
Has anyone ever successfully used a WDEF identifier? Is there a list of available identifiers somewhere or do we still have to manually look at the app resource and then set it in RunRev? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Secure file delete
I remember reading a suggestion on the list about creating a file with dummy information to overwrite an existing file. This way the original file will be zeroed out so there is nothing to undelete. Unfortunately I can't find the email and was hoping that someone could clarify how to do this. The reason for this is the next version of InfoWallet will support encrypted and password protected attachments but for someone to view an attachment it will have to be saved to disk unprotected and then launched. I want to securely delete the temporarily saved unprotected file. Thanks, Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Secure file delete
On Jun 12, 2010, at 4:29 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote: I remember reading a suggestion on the list about creating a file with dummy information to overwrite an existing file. This way the original file will be zeroed out so there is nothing to undelete. Unfortunately I can't find the email and was hoping that someone could clarify how to do this. The reason for this is the next version of InfoWallet will support encrypted and password protected attachments but for someone to view an attachment it will have to be saved to disk unprotected and then launched. I want to securely delete the temporarily saved unprotected file. Might have been me. My client wanted me to take steps to keep people from saving small video files that were used by the app, make it very difficult for users to play them outside the app. I placed all the videos into user properties - then to view the video, a temp file was made and that file used the data from the user property to make the video - after playing the video I would delete the file. I noticed that on rare occasions the file would appear in the trash on a reboot, inside a folder (perhaps the folder was named saved or rescued items?). So, I changed my script so that before I deleted the file I would write over the file with a simple single phrase, thus destroying the video and changing it to a simple text file. sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Opaque stack resizer
Simon Lord wrote: Ok, I figured out what you're talking about. The Object Library is something new to me since I last used MetaCard (never used RunRev until a few weeks ago). It works, but it's as sluggish as my two-liner code...the refresh rate (even with lockscreen) is very noticeable. drag grc drag-handle set the rect of this stack to the left of this stack, the top of this stack, the right of img drag-handle + the left of this stack, the bottom of img drag-handle + the top of this stack Try a more efficient and responsive technique, using send command in time. There is an explanation here: http://www.hyperactivesw.com/resources_polling.html Look at the final script on that page for an example you can adapt for the resize button. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Opaque stack resizer
Ok, huge difference. Thanks Jacque, that's another problem solved. :) On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 11:28 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: Simon Lord wrote: Ok, I figured out what you're talking about. The Object Library is something new to me since I last used MetaCard (never used RunRev until a few weeks ago). It works, but it's as sluggish as my two-liner code...the refresh rate (even with lockscreen) is very noticeable. drag grc drag-handle set the rect of this stack to the left of this stack, the top of this stack, the right of img drag-handle + the left of this stack, the bottom of img drag-handle + the top of this stack Try a more efficient and responsive technique, using send command in time. There is an explanation here: http://www.hyperactivesw.com/resources_polling.html Look at the final script on that page for an example you can adapt for the resize button. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: WDEF identifiers
Simon- Saturday, June 12, 2010, 6:42:31 AM, you wrote: Has anyone ever successfully used a WDEF identifier? Is there a list of available identifiers somewhere or do we still have to manually look at the app resource and then set it in RunRev? Boy, that takes me back a ways... what are you trying to do? -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: WDEF identifiers
I haven't heard the term WDEF in a while...I don't think runrev windows are based on that. MacOS X doesn't use Resource Forks anymore... Runrev can read and write resources though, as long as Apple doesn't disallow them entirely in the file system - it's a legacy thing. As long as the forked files stays in the Mac world, resources might be useful, like adding extra data to a JPG or sound file. But I would question if Apple will support it in the future, and the modified files might not be happy on other systems. Personally, I loved the resource concept - like custom properties, images and sounds we imbed today in Rev - but it made a mess of incompatibility which impression lingers today: aww it's a mac file, no wonder it's messed up. Search a well-used PC drive for .DS_store files, which always showed up in a directory of mac files on a PC. There must be billions of files today with that name. File conversion systems, not knowing what else to do with the resource forks would split them with the data forks, leaving the data in the file and moving whatever data was in the resource forks of all the files into the single .DS_store garbage heap. I don't know if any of the data in there is recoverable. I just had to shut down spotlight. I did a search for .DS_Store and stopped it because there were so many on my machine and adding them to the list so quickly that I was worried it might actually top it out. If you search for them, use File Visibility as a criteria (which will have to be added by using other from the kind popup. I'm guessing that MacOS is tolerating the 'dual system' approach but that resource fork laden files might appear to have the resources exist in the file but also 'virtualized' to appear in the MacOSX system properly. Here's the best poop on .DS_Store http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.DS_Store On 12 June 2010 06:42, Simon Lord sl...@karbonized.com wrote: Has anyone ever successfully used a WDEF identifier? Is there a list of available identifiers somewhere or do we still have to manually look at the app resource and then set it in RunRev? -- - Stephen Barncard San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Force PNG gamma update
So I found a post suggesting that after setting the screenGamma to force the PNGs to update by performing the following: set text of img 1 to the text of img 1 Well, to quote a famous actor—The goggles do nothing!. What's the best way to successfully force the PNGs to render properly after a screenGamma setting? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: WDEF identifiers
I was trying to get my stack to use the same resource as itunes. When I tried doing this in the past my stack would just disappear. It's not critical, but I'm a little bummed about how few options there are for stack decorations. Ideally I want: - Metal decorations - *without* the thick border (Shao's external takes core of that) - *keep* the bottom rounded corners (which Metal has, but which Shao's external removes). There also doesn't appear to be any options for controlling the thickness or styling of the title bar. Setting the decorations to none makes all the corners square and resizing extremely choppy (even with the tips from J). Also, from what I've read, with decorations set to none it also removes the ability to slide a stack from under the main stack. I just thought there'd be more support for basic windowing, so I'm looking at everything. Judging from the replies to this post I gather WDEF is not an option. Sigh. On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Simon- Saturday, June 12, 2010, 6:42:31 AM, you wrote: Has anyone ever successfully used a WDEF identifier? Is there a list of available identifiers somewhere or do we still have to manually look at the app resource and then set it in RunRev? Boy, that takes me back a ways... what are you trying to do? -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] G4 goes West
Richmond - you might consider copying your old ZIP disks to someplace safer as soon as possible - they seem to have some kind of 'disk rot' and can die quickly in a few years. Remember zips are still 'floppy disks' with higher density and the failed 'Bernoulli' technology. All of your old zips will fit in a tiny corner of your current hard drive. There's not much between your archive and the 'ping of death' (zip drive users know what I mean). iOmega has made a lot of junk using this bernoulli technology and it was so unreliable across their product line over that I refuse to buy anything with iOmega in the name, even today. I bought into the format big time, so desperate I was for storage. Fortunately for me it all went to Hard Drive in 1999 and I haven't looked at it since! I remember when Solid State Logic (maker of over-rated professional audio consoles) finally offered a 'hard drive' for their console series in 1994. SSL for years had relied on a very ancient mini computer (PDP-8 type) with some questionable hacks ( the graphics card was a BBC hobby computer grafted onto a blank card ) and legacy hardware, including the disc interface called SASI ( the predecessor to SCSI) which are / were pretty much unobtainable. These interfaces were hooked up to 8 SASI floppy drives. So what was the new 'hard drive' ?? A SASI 8 Bernoulli in a huge plastic case. They also offered a pair of SASI 400k plastic-type 'floppy' drives in a rack mounted chassic for only $2700. [more OT rambling below] It was so ironic that non-technical people were so enamored with the SSL, not knowing how really ancient the control systems was. We techs were constantly putting it down for its design shortcuts and mistakes, but we had to work on it because it was responsible for more 'hits' than any other single console and the brand brought in the business. The engineers just learned the string of keystrokes and the ones that could figure it out became stars ( read: Bob Clearmountain ) and the others had assistants run it. The biggest irony was that as I brought modern computers into the studio (ok, Macs) in the late 80s and the audio engineers started using them for email and amusement, the semi-command line interface of the SSL really showed how far we'd come. We spent hours trying to figure a way to simplify the interface using our new macs, but the SSL just had no hooks for outside control and the core code itself was a labyrinthine noodleworks of 'spagetti' code with no source - it was in some guy's head - and he had left the company. There are still hundreds of these things out there today. On 12 June 2010 06:22, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Back from the dead (or very nearly): Well: I removed one of the hard disks in the G4 MDD from the cage that sits over the heat sink; allowing me space to install an 80 mm 12 v fan - Stephen Barncard San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: So you CAN build an OS X app from another system...
Mark- Saturday, June 12, 2010, 2:28:35 AM, you wrote: Richard, I've seen your posts on this subject several times now and I never thought it was a real problem. I have now actually done a test on Win XP, building a standalone on a PC, zipping it and copying it over to a Mac OS X Leopard machine. The standalone runs fine. Under which circumstances doesn't the standalone run exactly? I've gotten so used to taking Richard's word here as authoritative that I didn't bother to test it. I just followed up and did the same as you: works fine over here. Unzip it on the mac, double-click, and there it goes. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] G4 goes West
On 06/12/2010 08:07 PM, stephen barncard wrote: Richmond - you might consider copying your old ZIP disks to someplace safer as soon as possible - they seem to have some kind of 'disk rot' and can die quickly in a few years. Sounds like my brain . . . :) I have a Performa 5xxx with a SCSI port and a LAN one; so can export all the ancient, past it, probably reduplicated gubbins any time I want: probably put the content of 20 Zips on a DVD or a spare Hard drive. I copied ALL of the Zip disk stuff, cleverly, onto a hard disk in an old Grey--white ex-G3 (popped a G4 processor into it about 9 years ago); the only snag being that that machine is now in the attic of my house in Scotland, and I won't be there until at least July-August 2011. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: So you CAN build an OS X app from another system...
On 06/12/2010 09:21 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Mark- Saturday, June 12, 2010, 2:28:35 AM, you wrote: Richard, I've seen your posts on this subject several times now and I never thought it was a real problem. I have now actually done a test on Win XP, building a standalone on a PC, zipping it and copying it over to a Mac OS X Leopard machine. The standalone runs fine. Under which circumstances doesn't the standalone run exactly? I've gotten so used to taking Richard's word here as authoritative that I didn't bother to test it. I just followed up and did the same as you: works fine over here. Unzip it on the mac, double-click, and there it goes. Try it with a stack using non-English fonts; say, Bulgarian, or Sanskrit for instance; then everything goes squiffy. Outwith the font issue I have merrily made standalones for Windows from Mac for about 9 years. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: So you CAN build an OS X app from another system...
Mark- ...and I just did the same without zipping and it still runs. Maybe Richard's having problems with a virtual Windows image? -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: So you CAN build an OS X app from another system...
Richmond- Saturday, June 12, 2010, 11:24:31 AM, you wrote: Outwith the font issue I have merrily made standalones for Windows from Mac for about 9 years. The problem Richard was (is?) having is with the other direction: creating an OSX standalone from a Windows machine. In particular, the executable bit wasn't getting set. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?
I have going through various scripts to get the name of a text file (not stack) that is open in my app using the message box. Does anyone know how to do this? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-do-you-get-the-name-of-an-open-saved-file-in-memory-using-message-box-tp2252969p2252969.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?
answer file select file:;put it into temp;get URL(file: temp);put temp return return it On 12 June 2010 12:16, charles61 csz...@mac.com wrote: I have going through various scripts to get the name of a text file (not stack) that is open in my app using the message box. Does anyone know how to do this? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-do-you-get-the-name-of-an-open-saved-file-in-memory-using-message-box-tp2252969p2252969.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?
Otherwise I misread what you were asking. If you have an app and you load a file, it's up to the programmer (you) to keep track of it in a variable or a custom property. There is no last file loaded property. On 12 June 2010 12:48, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.comwrote: answer file select file:;put it into temp;get URL(file: temp);put temp return return it On 12 June 2010 12:16, charles61 csz...@mac.com wrote: I have going through various scripts to get the name of a text file (not stack) that is open in my app using the message box. Does anyone know how to do this? -- -- - Stephen Barncard San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?
Stephen, I typed your suggestion in the message box and I only got the select file dialog box but not the name of the file that is already opened. Any other suggestions? I went through the RevList archives and could not find an example of getting the name of an open file! Charles Szasz csz...@mac.com On Jun 12, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Stephen Barncard-4 [via Runtime Revolution] wrote: answer file select file:;put it into temp;get URL(file: temp);put temp return return it On 12 June 2010 12:16, charles61 [hidden email] wrote: I have going through various scripts to get the name of a text file (not stack) that is open in my app using the message box. Does anyone know how to do this? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-do-you-get-the-name-of-an-open-saved-file-in-memory-using-message-box-tp2252969p2252969.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list [hidden email] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list [hidden email] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution View message @ http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-do-you-get-the-name-of-an-open-saved-file-in-memory-using-message-box-tp2252969p2252984.html To unsubscribe from How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?, click here. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-do-you-get-the-name-of-an-open-saved-file-in-memory-using-message-box-tp2252969p2252998.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?
Stephen, I just saw your second e-mail reply. My plan is to put the name of the open file in a variable but getting the name of the open file has been difficult. How do you get the name of the open file? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-do-you-get-the-name-of-an-open-saved-file-in-memory-using-message-box-tp2252969p2252999.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?
You are not communicating very well. It is still not clear what you want. Do you want to place a suggested file name in an ask dialog entry field instead, or have a the filename show up instead of the prompt of the ask dialog? Again, how would the dialog 'know' what the last filename was unless you save it yourself? Or are you just having trouble getting the result of your choice in the dialog? Look at the IT variable Anyway again it is up to the programmer to know which files are open and those that are not. Usually 'OPEN' is just for microseconds, the data is put in a variable, and work with it inside rev. There is no open and close needed for 'put URL()' and the file is closed after the call. There really is no need for multiple open and close statements unless one is processing data from one file into another file by script. Most of the time that is never needed. On 12 June 2010 13:00, charles61 csz...@mac.com wrote: Stephen, I typed your suggestion in the message box and I only got the select file dialog box but not the name of the file that is already opened. Any other suggestions? I went through the RevList archives and could not find an example of getting the name of an open file! Charles Szasz csz...@mac.com On Jun 12, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Stephen Barncard-4 [via Runtime Revolution] wrote: answer file select file:;put it into temp;get URL(file: temp);put temp return return it On 12 June 2010 12:16, charles61 [hidden email] wrote: I have going through various scripts to get the name of a text file (not stack) that is open in my app using the message box. Does anyone know how to do this? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-do-you-get-the-name-of-an-open-saved-file-in-memory-using-message-box-tp2252969p2252969.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list [hidden email] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list [hidden email] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution View message @ http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-do-you-get-the-name-of-an-open-saved-file-in-memory-using-message-box-tp2252969p2252984.html To unsubscribe from How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?, click here. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-do-you-get-the-name-of-an-open-saved-file-in-memory-using-message-box-tp2252969p2252998.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Force PNG gamma update
I'm not in front of a computer at the moment but I believe forcing the gamma to update requires refreshing the card. I seem to recall the docs saying to lock the screen, navigate to another card, and go back to the source card, but I believe any action that causes the card to refresh will work. --Original Message-- From: Simon Lord Sender: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com To: Revolution Mail List ReplyTo: Revolution Mail List Subject: Force PNG gamma update Sent: Jun 12, 2010 9:35 AM So I found a post suggesting that after setting the screenGamma to force the PNGs to update by performing the following: set text of img 1 to the text of img 1 Well, to quote a famous actor—The goggles do nothing!. What's the best way to successfully force the PNGs to render properly after a screenGamma setting? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Opaque stack resizer
What was the solution, a library object or the external? Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design -Original Message- From: Simon Lord sl...@karbonized.com Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:46:44 To: How to use Revolutionuse-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Opaque stack resizer Ok, huge difference. Thanks Jacque, that's another problem solved. :) On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 11:28 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: Simon Lord wrote: Ok, I figured out what you're talking about. The Object Library is something new to me since I last used MetaCard (never used RunRev until a few weeks ago). It works, but it's as sluggish as my two-liner code...the refresh rate (even with lockscreen) is very noticeable. drag grc drag-handle set the rect of this stack to the left of this stack, the top of this stack, the right of img drag-handle + the left of this stack, the bottom of img drag-handle + the top of this stack Try a more efficient and responsive technique, using send command in time. There is an explanation here: http://www.hyperactivesw.com/resources_polling.html Look at the final script on that page for an example you can adapt for the resize button. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: So you CAN build an OS X app from another system...
Mark Schonewille wrote: I've seen your posts on this subject several times now and I never thought it was a real problem. I have now actually done a test on Win XP, building a standalone on a PC, zipping it and copying it over to a Mac OS X Leopard machine. The standalone runs fine. Under which circumstances doesn't the standalone run exactly? You're right; my recipe was incorrect in noting the Zip step. The original problem I had to solve was for an installer that needs to be able to build standalones for all platform onto a USB drive. Zipping does work from Windows, which is what I'm doing now (with a note to the user that they have to unzip it; a drag, but I can't find a way around that. The cool thing I found last night was that I can build Mac standalones on Linux that can be copied directly without needing to be zipped. (That is, until Steve Jobs finds out and then adds something to the OS or its license agreement to prevent that.) This opens up new options for me to consider a Linux laptop as my main portable, whereas before the anomalies of OS X had previously required me to stay locked in to Apple products. I'd still keep a Mac along with my Windows machines for testing, but being able to consider this shift in my workflow feels quite liberating. @Richmond: looking over the variety of bug reports around the 'net related to fonts on Linux, I'm not certain the issue you're experiencing can be solved by Rev alone. It may be, but it's worth noting that different apps show greatly differing sets of fonts on Linux, and I don't know of any IDE that also takes care of bundling fonts for you. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Datagrid with option menu filled from database
Hi List, I have a question with the datagrid and the option menu. How can I assign values to the option menu from a database when the stack is open? It's posible or affect the datagrid performance? where is the best place to put the loading code? Salut, Josep -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Datagrid-with-option-menu-filled-from-database-tp2253060p2253060.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts
Hello Richmond, I tested to use all installed fonts on Ubuntu 10.04 with rev. No problem. With set the textfont of fld /field/ to /fontname/ I can use all available fonts. Only the function fontnames() does not return all the fonts. But you can get a list of fontnames with put shell(fc-list) into tTempFontsList set the itemdel to : repeat for each line tL in tTempFontsList set the itemdel to : put item 1 of tL into tL2 set the itemdel to , put item 1 of tL2 cr after tFontsList end repeat delete char -1 of tFontsList If you want to install a user font then copy it into /home/user/.fonts/truetype/ and in console type: sudo fc-cache Now you can use that font with rev. hth Wolfgang Am 17.05.2010 18:09, schrieb Richmond Mathewson: [I hope that the thread I am attempting to initiate will, eventually lead to an understanding of why RunRev does not play 'nicely' with Linux fonts] [Ubuntu 10.04 -- Debian deriv.] 1. open a .ttf font with FontViewer 2. click on 'Install Font' button ; 'Install Failed' Q1. Is that because I am not root user? 3. attempt to open FontViewer as root: got distracted by Font Manager /usr/bin click on 'Manage Fonts' blob at the bottom navigate to where target font is installed on selecting font Font Manager opens and blow me down it seems the font has been installed as a system font: 4. Open RunRev: and the target font DOESN'T show up . . . um, mumble, mumble, excrement, and so on. 5. AbiWord (what my sons call Shabby Word - never mind, it will suffice for now): font (Unicode TTF) shows up. Q2. Could this be because my target font does not have an accompanying .conf file ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: So you CAN build an OS X app from another system...
Richard- Saturday, June 12, 2010, 2:37:05 PM, you wrote: Zipping does work from Windows, which is what I'm doing now (with a note to the user that they have to unzip it; a drag, but I can't find a way around that. I tried it without zipping and it worked that way, too. 1. Build mac standalone on xp 2. copy folder to flash drive 3. copy from flash drive to mac 4. open folder and launch app -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: So you CAN build an OS X app from another system...
Mark Wieder wrote: Saturday, June 12, 2010, 2:37:05 PM, you wrote: Zipping does work from Windows, which is what I'm doing now (with a note to the user that they have to unzip it; a drag, but I can't find a way around that. I tried it without zipping and it worked that way, too. 1. Build mac standalone on xp 2. copy folder to flash drive 3. copy from flash drive to mac 4. open folder and launch app H... doesn't work here, and others on this list have tried and failed as well. What file system is on your USB? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: So you CAN build an OS X app from another system...
Richard- Saturday, June 12, 2010, 3:22:27 PM, you wrote: H... doesn't work here, and others on this list have tried and failed as well. What file system is on your USB? ...had to go check... I used the rev4.0 distibution drive I got at the launch event... my Leopard machine says it's MSDOS FAT16. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: So you CAN build an OS X app from another system...
Richard, I just copied the standalone over the network. Zipped and unzipped, both work. The hard drives of the PC I used are formatted as FAT32. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new projects. Contact me for a quote http://economy-x-talk.com/contact.html Download Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com and share the clipboard of your computer over the local network. On 13 jun 2010, at 00:22, Richard Gaskin wrote: Mark Wieder wrote: Saturday, June 12, 2010, 2:37:05 PM, you wrote: Zipping does work from Windows, which is what I'm doing now (with a note to the user that they have to unzip it; a drag, but I can't find a way around that. I tried it without zipping and it worked that way, too. 1. Build mac standalone on xp 2. copy folder to flash drive 3. copy from flash drive to mac 4. open folder and launch app H... doesn't work here, and others on this list have tried and failed as well. What file system is on your USB? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Opaque stack resizer
Shao doesn't have a resize alternative in his external (btw, I really like his external. It does a lot of things I need). If there is an external out there I'd love to try it. I ended up using my own button as a resizer but the trick, as pointed out by Jacque, was to NOT continually poll for a mouseDown in mouseMove x,y Would love to see it run faster but for now it's better than was previously. On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: What was the solution, a library object or the external? Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design -Original Message- From: Simon Lord sl...@karbonized.com Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:46:44 To: How to use Revolutionuse-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Opaque stack resizer Ok, huge difference. Thanks Jacque, that's another problem solved. :) On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 11:28 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: Simon Lord wrote: Ok, I figured out what you're talking about. The Object Library is something new to me since I last used MetaCard (never used RunRev until a few weeks ago). It works, but it's as sluggish as my two-liner code...the refresh rate (even with lockscreen) is very noticeable. drag grc drag-handle set the rect of this stack to the left of this stack, the top of this stack, the right of img drag-handle + the left of this stack, the bottom of img drag-handle + the top of this stack Try a more efficient and responsive technique, using send command in time. There is an explanation here: http://www.hyperactivesw.com/resources_polling.html Look at the final script on that page for an example you can adapt for the resize button. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Opaque stack resizer
OK. FYI Shao = her. Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design -Original Message- From: Simon Lord sl...@karbonized.com Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:19:11 To: How to use Revolutionuse-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Opaque stack resizer Shao doesn't have a resize alternative in his external (btw, I really like his external. It does a lot of things I need). If there is an external out there I'd love to try it. I ended up using my own button as a resizer but the trick, as pointed out by Jacque, was to NOT continually poll for a mouseDown in mouseMove x,y Would love to see it run faster but for now it's better than was previously. On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: What was the solution, a library object or the external? Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design -Original Message- From: Simon Lord sl...@karbonized.com Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:46:44 To: How to use Revolutionuse-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Opaque stack resizer Ok, huge difference. Thanks Jacque, that's another problem solved. :) On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 11:28 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: Simon Lord wrote: Ok, I figured out what you're talking about. The Object Library is something new to me since I last used MetaCard (never used RunRev until a few weeks ago). It works, but it's as sluggish as my two-liner code...the refresh rate (even with lockscreen) is very noticeable. drag grc drag-handle set the rect of this stack to the left of this stack, the top of this stack, the right of img drag-handle + the left of this stack, the bottom of img drag-handle + the top of this stack Try a more efficient and responsive technique, using send command in time. There is an explanation here: http://www.hyperactivesw.com/resources_polling.html Look at the final script on that page for an example you can adapt for the resize button. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Opaque stack resizer
Simon, you might want to try revChangeWindowSize instead of setting the rect. I have the impression that it is a bit smoother and maybe a tad faster then setting the rect. I have put this into a button, could be a graphic or image also -- local sResize, sXDiff, sYDiff on mousedown put true into sResize put the clickloc into tClick put the width of this card - item 1 of tClick into sXDiff put the height of this card - item 2 of tClick into sYDiff end mousedown on mouseMove x,y if sResize then put x + sXDiff into tNewX put y + sYDiff into tNewY revChangeWindowSize tNewX, tNewY lock screen set the right of me to the width of this card set the bottom of me to the height of this card unlock screen end if end mouseMove on mouseUp put false into sResize end mouseUp on mouseRelease put false into sResize end mouseRelease --- unfortunately still slow. regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Opaque-stack-resizer-tp2252468p2253105.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 5:16 AM, charles61 csz...@mac.com wrote: I have going through various scripts to get the name of a text file (not stack) that is open in my app using the message box. Does anyone know how to do this? Charles, at some stage in your scripts, the file was opened. At that point, your script had to know the file name. You will have to store that file name in the custom property, hidden field, script local or global variable at that time. Then you can use that file name at any time to re-save to the original file. Cheers, Sarah Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Opaque stack resizer
Simon, I did this on a stack where i had set the blending of the button to noop, making it invisble. So I did not notice the lag when setting the button. That looks awful. I did some fooling around with revChangeWindowSize, but not in a moving button. You might as well forget about the post. Sorry, it just occured to me after I posted. regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Opaque-stack-resizer-tp2252468p2253111.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Error in date convert
The following script fragment works OK on Mac (and I believe on Win, but cannot verify that right now) put 2010,1,0,0,0,0,0 into t convert t to system date put t but if I put this into an On-Rev script (i.e. an .irev scrip) it fails (silently - even the on-rev client debugger doesn't see any error, it just stops silently). (Works OK if I use convert t to english date). I will, naturally, send an error report to on-rev, but I was curious whether this is an on-rev problem or a Linux problem (or limitation), so if any Linux users can try it out and let me know I'd be grateful. Thanks, -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: WWDC Keynote: HTML5 wide open for On-Rev revServer
I guess I'm missing something here . It seems that if I write a Rodeo app and it uses HTML5 local storage, then there is a secuity issue because other Rodeo apps on the same server might be able to access the user's data when stored locally on his machine. But today I generally write desktop apps. The user's data is stored on (usually) his local disk. And any other desktop app he chooses to install can access that data. What's so different ? -- Alex. On 08/06/2010 18:10, Mike Bonner wrote: Actually, I believe the following (from the provided link) is what is being referred to: 7.2 Cross-directory attacks Different authors sharing one host name, for example users hosting content on geocities.com, all share one local storage object. There is no feature to restrict the access by pathname. Authors on shared hosts are therefore recommended to avoid using these features, as it would be trivial for other authors to read the data and overwrite it. Even if a path-restriction feature was made available, the usual DOM scripting security model would make it trivial to bypass this protection and access the data from any path. On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Jerry Danielsjerry.dani...@me.com wrote: Not so. No. Each developer has own space. If developer INVITES someone in...as a teammate, then they share. Vampire rules. Need an invite to join another developer. Best, Jerry Daniels Follow the Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves On Jun 8, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Robert Mann wrote: For Rodéo apps, if each user shares a space on a common shared server, than all the local datas of user X are accessible to all different rodeo apps, So far I understood. Not reassuring! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Error in date convert
Hi Alex, I got a crash with your script. This shows the correct date from the system: ?rev set the errormode to inline put 2010,1,0,0,0,0,0 into t --set the useSystemDate to true convert t to long date put t ? I think there is no 'system date' intentionally. According to the docs: * * * * If the *useSystemDate* property is set to true or if you specify the system date, the times returned by the *date* function are formatted according to the user's system preferences. There is no such object on a web server. ** this is why useSystemDate property will crash as well. On 12 June 2010 17:01, Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net wrote: The following script fragment works OK on Mac (and I believe on Win, but cannot verify that right now) put 2010,1,0,0,0,0,0 into t convert t to system date put t but if I put this into an On-Rev script (i.e. an .irev scrip) it fails (silently - even the on-rev client debugger doesn't see any error, it just stops silently). (Works OK if I use convert t to english date). I will, naturally, send an error report to on-rev, but I was curious whether this is an on-rev problem or a Linux problem (or limitation), so if any Linux users can try it out and let me know I'd be grateful. Thanks, -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: WDEF identifiers
I was trying to get my stack to use the same resource as itunes. If I am not mistaken, iTunes uses a custom window.. - Metal decorations - *without* the thick border (Shao's external takes core of that) - *keep* the bottom rounded corners (which Metal has, but which Shao's external removes). That is all there is in the system.. There also doesn't appear to be any options for controlling the thickness or styling of the title bar. What do you mean? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Opaque stack resizer
The resize widget on the bottom right of my stack has a colour to it. It doesn't match the background of my stack. There is a system flag to have a transparent resizer but the redrawing of the window content seems to mess up a little.. Would be nice for Rev to handle this for us (just another window property ;) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Opaque stack resizer
LOL. Guess who feels like an ass now! Thanks for clearing that up. :) On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: OK. FYI Shao = her. Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design -Original Message- From: Simon Lord sl...@karbonized.com Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:19:11 To: How to use Revolutionuse-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Opaque stack resizer Shao doesn't have a resize alternative in his external (btw, I really like his external. It does a lot of things I need). If there is an external out there I'd love to try it. I ended up using my own button as a resizer but the trick, as pointed out by Jacque, was to NOT continually poll for a mouseDown in mouseMove x,y Would love to see it run faster but for now it's better than was previously. On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: What was the solution, a library object or the external? Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design -Original Message- From: Simon Lord sl...@karbonized.com Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:46:44 To: How to use Revolutionuse-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Opaque stack resizer Ok, huge difference. Thanks Jacque, that's another problem solved. :) On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 11:28 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: Simon Lord wrote: Ok, I figured out what you're talking about. The Object Library is something new to me since I last used MetaCard (never used RunRev until a few weeks ago). It works, but it's as sluggish as my two-liner code...the refresh rate (even with lockscreen) is very noticeable. drag grc drag-handle set the rect of this stack to the left of this stack, the top of this stack, the right of img drag-handle + the left of this stack, the bottom of img drag-handle + the top of this stack Try a more efficient and responsive technique, using send command in time. There is an explanation here: http://www.hyperactivesw.com/resources_polling.html Look at the final script on that page for an example you can adapt for the resize button. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: So you CAN build an OS X app from another system...
Mark Schonewille wrote: I just copied the standalone over the network. Zipped and unzipped, both work. The hard drives of the PC I used are formatted as FAT32. Interesting. Since so many others, including Rev tech support, couldn't do this before, I wonder what accounts for the difference. Interestingly, in the scenario of an installer the reason it won't work is that the Mac engine loses its executable bit when copied from a custom prop to a file, which isn't all that different from what Rev does with its own installer. How does Rev do this, and why did Mark Waddingham once suggest to me that the only way to write out an executable from a custom prop on OS X was to set its executable bit. How does that get set in the Win Rev installer? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: WDEF identifiers
I read that API several times—now that you point it out I see it there. Guess my brain just didn't want to believe it. This is fantastic! There also doesn't appear to be any options for controlling the thickness or styling of the title bar. What do you mean? http://www.marelina.com/miscellaneous/fatbar.jpg It would have been nice to be able to create a titlebar like most iWork/iLife apps and place buttons on them etc. Right now I'm *faking* it. If your external does this too then 'm getting drunk tonight. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: WDEF identifiers
Ok, tried it and it definitely doesn't work—maybe we are not talking about the same thing here. If I run this: ssSetWindowTexturedSquareCorners updateWindow, true I get the metal skin without rounded corners. This is good. But the rounded corners on the bottom are square. The reason I cannot pass false to ssSetWindowTexturedSquareCorners is because the 4px border around the stack comes back. So yes, the rounded corners appear on the bottom but so does the 4px border which I don't want. If there is a way to have rounded corners on the bottom with only a single pixel border then I'd like to know how. And the default decorations doesn't count because it places a 1px black line under the titlebar which I also don't want. I'm not asking for anything special, I just want my stack to look like other OS X apps and so far this is not possible. Only been at this a week so maybe someone out there has the answer but so far I don't think I'll get what I need. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: WDEF identifiers
Sorry the external does not do it :-( but you are looking for this http://shaosean.tk/images/ssToolbar.png ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: WDEF identifiers
If there is a way to have rounded corners on the bottom with only a single pixel border then I'd like to know how. Custom window.. that is how iTunes does it.. If you look at Safari, it is square corners as well.. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: WDEF identifiers
Yes. I can be a beta tester! ;) Definitely will buy that from you when you are ready. On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Shao Sean shaos...@wehostmacs.com wrote: Sorry the external does not do it :-( but you are looking for this http://shaosean.tk/images/ssToolbar.png ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: WDEF identifiers
Well I guess I'll just wait to buy your next external which supports this... ;) On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Shao Sean shaos...@wehostmacs.com wrote: If there is a way to have rounded corners on the bottom with only a single pixel border then I'd like to know how. Custom window.. that is how iTunes does it.. If you look at Safari, it is square corners as well.. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?
Stephen, I am sorry for the confusion. All I want to do to provide a save dialog when the user makes a change to a saved file asking the user to save the file after a change was made to the file. In my current script, I have a dialog appear that asks if the user wants to save the file with untitled.text. This would be okay if the file did not already have a name. So far I have been unable to get the name of the file to appear in the dialog so the user can choose to save the file with its current name, a new name or disregard the changes. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-do-you-get-the-name-of-an-open-saved-file-in-memory-using-message-box-tp2252969p2253195.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?
so what we've all told you is all you need. Have you put it all together yet? On 12 June 2010 20:29, charles61 csz...@mac.com wrote: Stephen, I am sorry for the confusion. All I want to do to provide a save dialog when the user makes a change to a saved file asking the user to save the file after a change was made to the file. In my current script, I have a dialog appear that asks if the user wants to save the file with untitled.text. This would be okay if the file did not already have a name. So far I have been unable to get the name of the file to appear in the dialog so the user can choose to save the file with its current name, a new name or disregard the changes. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-do-you-get-the-name-of-an-open-saved-file-in-memory-using-message-box-tp2252969p2253195.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?
Stephen, I understand how to put the name in the variable and store it but I have not been able to get the name of the current file to put in a variable. But I will keep working on it. Thanks for all of your comments and suggestions! Charles Szasz csz...@mac.com On Jun 12, 2010, at 11:30 PM, Stephen Barncard-4 [via Runtime Revolution] wrote: so what we've all told you is all you need. Have you put it all together yet? On 12 June 2010 20:29, charles61 [hidden email] wrote: Stephen, I am sorry for the confusion. All I want to do to provide a save dialog when the user makes a change to a saved file asking the user to save the file after a change was made to the file. In my current script, I have a dialog appear that asks if the user wants to save the file with untitled.text. This would be okay if the file did not already have a name. So far I have been unable to get the name of the file to appear in the dialog so the user can choose to save the file with its current name, a new name or disregard the changes. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-do-you-get-the-name-of-an-open-saved-file-in-memory-using-message-box-tp2252969p2253195.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list [hidden email] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list [hidden email] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution View message @ http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-do-you-get-the-name-of-an-open-saved-file-in-memory-using-message-box-tp2252969p2253197.html To unsubscribe from Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?, click here. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-do-you-get-the-name-of-an-open-saved-file-in-memory-using-message-box-tp2252969p2253200.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?
Sarah, The question is how do you get the name of the file that is opened from a script to save in a variable. This is what I been unable to do. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-do-you-get-the-name-of-an-open-saved-file-in-memory-using-message-box-tp2252969p2253196.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
DiagramCreator in beta.
Hey all. Been busy creating a fun tool for creating diagrams using plain english sentences. The free beta version is available for both Mac and PC. http://blog.chipp.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
