Re: LiveCode Personal Banner
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Terry Judd wrote : What about creating a personal 'player' application that starts up automatically and is just left running in the background. That's what I do. I have my favourite stack names in a tiny list, displayed by a Call.app loaded in my Mac Startup, sitting in a corner of my screen (OK - so I have a 20 iMac and a second 24 screen, so I have plenty of space !). My Favourite stacks load in 1 second. So much for my own personal use. As for the 10 second banner on standalones, I imagine that RunRev needs the publicity, to try and increase its User Base. I always learned that it is not publicity that sells a product, but the satisfied users. I spend quite some time with my friends giving glowing reports about how I use RunRev, and what I do with it. They are always impressed, especially when they see it all on screen. Whether they buy the product is a different problem. I don't know many people who do, want to, or will ever, program, however enticing the product is. RunRev is a niche product, the User Base will always be limited. Hypercard was enticing, but LiveCode is SO powerful, and SO extensive, that it can switch off amateurs in 30 seconds flat ! FMPOV, the people who stand to gain the most from the LiveCode Banner, are professional programmers (quite a lot floating on this forum) who will get requests from people who would like to see their problem turned into an app, and are prepared to put some money up for it. If you are an amateur LiveCode user, skate around the problem. If you are a professional LiveCode user, thank RunRev for opening your potential to make some more money. How many of you already have your own Site banner ? Instead of moaning, why don't you persuade RunRev to set up a list of program developers on the RunRev site (with their speciality and site address) ! Charge them $10 a year - they'll jump at it ! Then, everybody will be happy .. :) -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Close File question
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, There seems to be some confusion about how to define a full file name on your computer. On the Mac, you don't specify the main disk drive, it is implicit, so you start with the second level (beginning with a /) On a PC you must start with the first level, i.e. the disk drive (don't ask me why !). so : put /RevFolder/PDF Files/ into LVFilePath defines a file path. put File1.pdf into LVFileName defines a file name. put LVFilePath LVFileName into LVFullName defines the full name ... on a Mac, and put C: LVFilePath LVFileName into LVFullName defines the full name on a PC (if, of course, your disk drive is C:) And, as specified by Mark, and others : open file LVFullName read file LVFullName into LVworkArea [until ...] close file LVFullName Best Regards -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Simple RPN Calculator on RevOnline
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Andre, Nice, handy little calculator. (I didn't check out all the possibilities !) However, I think light grey commands on dark grey buttons are hard to read, especially for the +, -, * and /. Maybe push the fontsize up to 18, or even 24 where possible ? I have spent hours trying to find out the nicest mix of colour 1 on background 2, and although not very imaginative, I am forced to admit that black on white is close to the best, with dark blue on very light yellow, close behind, Best Regards -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Livecode suffix is a pain
Hi from Beautiful Brittanny Mark wrote : You can alway hack the script of button revBackScript of stack revlibrary.rev... (hint: look at lines 892 and 1007) Thanks Mark, that did the trick. I don't like zapping application code, but this is OK for me, seeing as I may live with Livecode 4.5 for quite some time. I'll worry about mods on future versions .. in the future, but as I am knocking hard on the 70's door, I may retire from Revolution (er Livecode !) before the next update ! But my question is : How in Rev's name did you know that ? -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Livecode suffix is a pain
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, With LiveCode, new stacks are created with the .livecode suffix, and this screws up several of my utility programs which create paths which assume a .rev suffix. Of course, when I save a new stack, I can always replace the livecode suffix with .rev, and this seems to cause no problems. But then I have to remember each time I create a new stack to make that modification. Question 1 : Do livecode suffixed stacks differ from .rev suffixed stacks ? Question 2 : Can I automatically have the .rev suffix used when creating a livecode stack ? (Can't find anything in Preferences !) Question 3 : Why was that change made in the suffix ? I see that when saving stacks, we have the possibility of creating a legacy stack. What difference does this make to the stack ? Having a new product name is all very jolly, and certainly affects very few Rev users, but for me it's a pain. -Francis P.S. If the name LiveCode is so important, how come that we don't have a livecode.com ? (I see it already exists, but belongs to DOTSTER INC) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Could someone could test this ?
Hi Ludovic, Why bother. Download Handbrake (open source) - convert all your files to Quicktime MP4. No more problems !! Best Regards -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Updating from Revolution 4.0 to LiveCode 4.5
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, When I combine both answers : Jacque wrote : You can delete or zip the old Rev folder, those files aren't needed for LiveCode. Bernd wrote : you could probably open the info of one .rev file and choose the program you want to open this file type . I solved the problem. Thanks to you both ! -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Updating from Revolution 4.0 to LiveCode 4.5
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, I had a few months spare in my Run-Rev 4 licence, so I downloaded LiveCode 4.5.0 (Happy Bunny !). In order to ensure that LiveCode is called when I double-click on a Revolution stack, I now have to delete my folder Revolution Studio (or something of that ilk). But the folder contains a multitude of files, and the LiveCode application is but one file. Before doing something stupid, how do I proceed ? Do I simply delete the Revolution.app in the Revolution Studio 4.0 folder, and replace it by the new LiveCode 4.5.app ? . Or is it just a tad more complicated ? -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Geographic Functions, any takers?
Hi from Beautiful Brittany. Ewan wrote : Compute true course and distance between points. I don't know if I have something which may solve part of your problems. I travelled a lot, before retiring, and always kept a note of cities visited, and stopovers on the way. I decided, one day to feed all of my data into a TRAVEL stack, to see how far I had really travelled (finally, more than 2 million klicks). I picked uf a file on the internet with position co-ordinates of 10,000 cities in the world, and than converted these co-ordinates to Lat/Long in radians. Then with a Haversine formula, I can calculate the distance between any two cities in the world (in km.), with up to 6 stopovers. example : Paris-Lisbon-Rio-London-Paris. You can, of course, feed in co-ordinates of any point on the globe, of any small town not in the list of 10,000 ! If my calculations are of use, just shout !. Best Regards, -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re : Date to Days
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, I knew someone had done this before ! Thanks Jim Ault for pointing to it. Thanks to Sarah Reichelt for the stack, and to regretted Eric Chatonet for the part that I wanted. -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Date to Days
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Has any kind soul (not on holiday) got a script for converting a date to a number of days (any recent base such as 1900 will suffice). With Thanks - Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Standalone Creation - Windows Externals Sub-folder
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, When creating a Windows Standalone Application, the generated Windows folder contains a sub-folder called Externals. For my stacks, this folder has always been empty. This is convenient for me, because I can take the .exe file out of its environment, and put it anywhere for execution. I would surmise that if the sub-folder contained anything, I would always have to keep the .exe file and the Externals folder in the same folder. However, always curious, I would like to know under what circumstances does this sub-folder contain anything ? -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
IDE on a Mac and on a PC - Same ??
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Can anybody tell me if the IDE for RunRev is the same on a PC as it is on a Mac ? Having used PC versions of some applications, I often found important differences from their Mac counterparts, but I'm certainly not going to buy the PC RunRev Studio, just for the pleasure of finding out myself .. :) I need an answer from someone who has worked them both, or at least who knows for sure. Best Regards -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
IDE on a Mac and on a PC - Same ??
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Thanks to Mark and Richard for extremely detailed replies - It took me a long time to digest all that information - But I got what I want and more ! Again - Many thanks. -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Estimate/Quotation program, help me please..... (Ted Mills)
Ted, Most of the guys on this forum could run off that little stack in much less time than it would take to explain how you should do it. I think that the BEST kick-start you could get would be if someone built a stack for you, with right number of cards, coded the scripts in card 1 to show you how it's done, and then let you code the other scripts on the other cards, learning as you go .. Half an hour on Skype (vocal) to explain how to use the IDE, and you'd be flying solo in a day. Most of us (I imagine) have model stacks, and model scripts that they could use to help build your stack quickly. I could run off a working model in less than a day (just for the fun). If no other helpful soul offers assistance, mail me off-forum, and I'll give you a few hours of my time for free. If we think back far enough, I'm sure that most of us were as bewildered as you when they wanted to write their first stack application. It's just like your first driving lesson :) Regards -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: My naming convention
Hi from Beautiful Brittany (although we will have rain in two days !) Richmond : I agree with you (mostly) David C : Thanks for that comment! It's gratifying. Rene Micout (excuse me if I wax into French) : Je ne peux pas être plus en accord avec toi - Pour dire vrai, je voulais secouer le pommier. Bien sur je veux écrire le plus beau code du monde, et je sais que je serais depassé par beaucoup sur ce forum. Mais j'écris chaque script comme si on allait le publier dans le Monde (avec amour et fierté) pour personne (sniff !) Damien : As I haven't written programs in a REAL development environment for more than 20 years, I tend to forget that conventions ARE important. So I will give you that (freely !). I once had to update a program written by a novice (however intelligent), and it was his first program. He named all his variables starting with his wife, and proceeding through the whole of the family, before running out of names, and so using CHINESE names. Needless to say, I bailed out ! HOWEVER, without using a complex naming convention, and using only intelligent names, which after all, IS THE SIGN OF A RELATIVELY ORGANIZED MIND, I still reckon that a comment beats this system. After more than 40 years of programming, (20 for the business, and 20 for my pleasure), I still put a comment on practically EACH line of coding - although NOBODY will ever see them. I also remember writing my first professional program (1967 - in IBM 360 autocoder), and returning to the Document Library more than 12 months later, to replace my (what I thought) pathetic programming with a new version, 'cos I was so ashamed. Question ! How many of you out there would be ashamed to show your coding to others ? I know that I ALWAYS was ! This may be a vital question. I'm up to 4 cents now. I may go to 6 . ! -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: My naming convention
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Sorry to put the proverbial cat among the pigeons ! Wonderful ! I have never seen so many complex naming conventions that I am sure you don't follow. If you do, then it is for who ? If it is for you, this means that your organizational solutions prime upon your script development and production. What a waste of grey matter ! If you spend more time wondering what you are going to call your variables, than developing your scripts, then you DO have a problem ! In 5 minutes, you can write a button script to list out Variable and Field Names, to ensure that you don't invent duplicate names. Revolution scripting is not to be pondered upon. Just write it, as it flows out of your brain. Don't invent rules that you will not follow ! Naming conventions are personal. They are mostly designed to help YOU, maintain and modify YOUR scripts in the future, if you ever NEED to return to them ! Forget naming conventions, and spend a little time with comments. It beats naming conventions every day. If anybody will ever read it except you ! If you ever have to return to your scripts (and I doubt that you do this often), you either recognize your coding, and your coding knowledge, AND YOUR COMMENTS, and so you don't need to invent a complex naming convention, or else it is not your script, and HIS naming convention is of no help whatsoever. But by the saints, an intelligent comment is !!! I spent years (with Hypercard) inventing a simple and strict naming convention WHICH I MYSELF RENAGUE ON EVERY DAY ! So - what is the point ? My 2 cents (of a euro) ! - Francis -Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Rene Micout wrote : In French we have 2 words for free free = gratuit (no money !) free = libre (open ?) ;-) Strange - In English we have the same possibilities ! We also have the prime number between two and four :) Etonnant - Non ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBRospPh4JA Merci à Pierre Desproges -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: App deployment on Windows
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, This complements Mark's mail ... This should be X:\program files, where X is the start-up drive. I needed to build file paths on Mac OSX and on Windows, in my cross-platform SplashStack, so I needed the system Disk ID for Windows (which MAY NOT be C). On Windows XP, I used put line 1 of the volumes into MyPCDrive which gave the system disk, whatever it was ! On Windows 7, the first entry in the volumes list is A (for some strange reason), and so I had to find an alternative solution. Mark came up with a work-around : put item 1 of specialfolderpath(system) into Temp Then strip out non-useful info to reveal system disk ID. A sure-fire way of building file paths. FWIW - Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Call to all you one-liners !
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, My rev coding has always been simple, though certainly not efficient, and of course, I can solve this little problem, but I have great confidence in you guys out there to give me a one-liner. I have a field that I would like to check out. It should contain any RGB value (like 255,100,099), but it came though the clipboard, and so may contain anything. Can this check be done in one line ? -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Call to all you one-liners !
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, I should have known ! Mark was the first to answer, and it's a beautiful one-liner. After more than 15 years of HC and a few more of Rev, I still bow to those who know so much about this language. Thanks Mark - even Scott was impressed ! I reckon that an FAQ Data Base should be set up, with Mark heading the pack ! -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Mark, thanks for the video which perfectly explains an installation creation. Now I can stop struggling on my Installation program ! You appear to have covered all the requirements However, I didn't understand how you create an installer on a MAC, but which will be run on a PC, or maybe I missed something Best Regards -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: runrev community : how many licenses? How many users? How many developpers?
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, I must have been lucky. If I zoom in a max, my flag puts me just in front of my computer, in the living room ! However, the flag doesn't tell me which way I am facing . :) -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Periodic Table of Typefaces
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, It's on my wall - love it ! I'm sure even Mendeleev would have loved it too ! But according to the rules, this means we can define certain characteristics of character fonts that have not yet been discovered . :) -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Delay in opening the first card. How can I solve this?
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, William, What if the system is 64bit? Do I replace 32 with 64 in the script? All Windows systems return Win32 from the platform command, including Windows 7 ! -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Cross-Platform Fonts
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Thanks Jacqueline, I have some notes about it here: http://www.hyperactivesw.com/resources_fonts.html All you ever wanted to know about Cross-Platform Fonts, but were afraid to ask ! -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Avoiding Global Variables
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Thanks for your Update and News concerning Avoiding Global Variables. Very instructive, not covered in the Doc. Progress is a series of monumental ***k-ups ! Even after years of RunRev, we can still learn ! Keep up the good work ! -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Windows 7 question
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, I wrote : I use : if the platform = Win32 then put line 1 of the volumes into x which doesn't work on Windows 7 (gives me diskette A: ?) In the face of this problem, how can I pick up the systems disk ID in a Windows 7 system ? Mark Schonewille (off forum) came up with the best answer (I think), not requiring a shell command. put item 1 of specialfolderpath(system) into x and strip off the /WINDOWS text ! And this works for all Windows systems that I know. Thanks Mark ! This post is just in case anybody else runs into the problem - Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Windows 7 Question
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, I know little about PC's :) But now I have my answers. By searching in Google for windir and systemroot, I found systemdrive which does exactly what I want ! Thanks Paul, thanks Steve ! -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Windows 7 Question
Hi from Beautiful Brittany I develop my stacks on my Mac, but have a Splashstack.exe for running them on PC's. In order to find the systems disk (so I can build complete paths to my external files), I use the command if the platform = Win32 then put line 1 of the volumes into field PCDrive and build the paths starting with field PCDrive. Disk C (the usual systems disk) was always the first entry in the volumes list in Windows XP, etc.. In Windows 7, I now find A (the floppy diskette used if the user didn't want to boot from the hard drive). In the comments section of the Volumes section of the Rev Dictionary, I find : Disks which are physically installed or inserted into a disk drive, but are not currently mounted, do not appear in the list returned by the volumes function. If this is so, why does floppy disk A (inexistant) appear at the head of the Volumes list ? Second question - does the platform command return Win32 for Windows 7 systems ? (I don't have a Windows 7 system available to test my stacks !) In the face of this problem, how can I pick up the systems disk ID in a Windows 7 system ? I am running Revolution 4.0.0 - Build 950 on an iMac OS 10.5.8 Many thanks for any pointers -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Creating Mac standalone on Windows Studio?
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Steve King wrote I know nothing at all of Macs Steve, my heart bleeds for you - . and you are so, so many ! But you are in the right forum to ask questions, and to find the true road to salvation . :) -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Thoughts on Kevin's announcement
Hi from Beautiful Brittanny, Richard Gaskin wrote : Doesn't sound like resentment to me, just making business decisions for the future based on previous experience. wrote Sorry Richard, René Micout wrote: Le 12 mai 2010 à 17:55, David C. a écrit : I try to be supportive to all of you offering Rev related products that I need or can use (like Rodeo), but not at the expense --no pun intended-- of owning or purchasing Apple hardware in the future. Ne bâtissons pas l'avenir sur le ressentiment Nietzsche Ressentiment in French means feeling or understanding or comprehension Best Regards -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: This is what it actually says
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Richard, C++ is a great language, I'm sure everyone will love it once they get to know it. No, not really: I broke out in a cold sweat when I saw this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objective-C I couldn't agree more, except that there was also a tendancy to vomit ! Nothing should ever be done for the first time and C++ was only one of them .. Gimme Lovely, Beautiful, Delicious, Sexy, RUNREV every day of the week ! Best Regards -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
iPad use with Rev users .... ?
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, I'm sorry, but I'd like to open a discussion on the following subject, but directly concerning Revolution. With an iPad, 1 - Can I run compatible Revolution stacks ? There is no keyboard, so maybe by replacing keyboard functions with buttons, and resizing some of my stacks, I could solve this problem. 2 - Can I key in data ? I have seen no way of doing this ! and I won't even ask the question, can I run IDE Rev development on an iPad ? Perhaps, rather than asking for a list of what I CAN do on an iPad, would you like to tell me what a Rev user CAN'T do ? This will help me decide on whether to lay out more than $500 dollars, because if it is just for reading books, I think I will pass. Sorry to rock the boat, because I DIG Apple -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time. but I love trying ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re : iPad use with Rev users
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, . and when I send my mail, I had not seen the mail from Heather Interesting discussion on iPad content, Thought you folks might appreciate: http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/03/the-ipad-needs-its-hypercard.html ...nor the comment by Lyn Fredericks. So my questions still stand .. -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re :Roman Numerals Conversion
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Thanks to Mark, Richmond and Sarah. I knew you could do it !! -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Roman Numerals Conversion
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, I've searched around, and have found many scripts in many languages for converting Roman Numerals into Numbers, but couldn't find one that I can use in a Rev Stack. Has anybody come across a script that I don't know about ? With Thanks -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: an annual calendar somewhere? - French Version
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, I played with zryip theSlug's code for all of 30 seconds, replace ncal command by cal 2010, corrected the line ending errors, corrected the month of August, and it all works fine for me. I'm on 10.5.8. Merci Monsieur zryip theSlug Francis on mouseUp local tTheCal, tTheMonth, tTheFrenchMonth, tTheDay, tTheFrenchDay put January ,February ,March ,April,May,June,July,August,September,October,November,December into tTheMonth put Janvier ,Février ,Mars ,Avril,Mai,Juin,Juillet,Août,Septembre,Octobre,Novembre,Décembre into tTheFrenchMonth put Mo,Tu,We,Th,Fr,Sa,Su into tTheDay put Lu,Ma,Me,Je,Ve,Sa,Di into tTheFrenchDay put shell(cal 2010) into tTheCal -- Translate month repeat with x = 1 to number of items in tTheMonth replace (item x of tTheMonth) with (item x of tTheFrenchMonth) in tTheCal end repeat -- Translate day repeat with x = 1 to number of items in tTheDay replace (item x of tTheDay) with (item x of tTheFrenchDay) in tTheCal end repeat put tTheCal into fld MyCal end mouseUp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re : Freezing solid
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Hi John, Tell us what you are trying to do, tell us what Rev version you are using, and on what system : and we may be able to help. - Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re : Trapping Cancel on Ask Dialogue
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Stewart, It's in the book The contents of the text box is placed in the it variable. If the user cancels the dialog, the it variable is set to empty and the result function returns cancel. -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to enter a time of day
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Scott Rossi wrote : I posted an example online that shows both time entry options (don't ask me to explain the math). Execute the following in your Rev message box: go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/timesettings.rev; Nice !! That's what I love about this forum. Every day, somebody shows me something that gives me new ideas .. Thanks Scott ! -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re : survey - and the word fortnight.
Hi from Brittany, Mikey, BTW, is fortnight still used in jolly old Mother England? Fortnight is still used in jolly Old Mother England, and at least is pertinent (ie fourteen nights = 2 weeks). In France, they can't count proper like we do ! Two weeks = 15 days (quinze jours) and One week = 8 days (huit jours) Now I know the Beatles sang Eight days a week but this is no excuse ... :) -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re : Reminder - We'd like your feedback
Hi from Brittany (and that is in France just in case you are from the US !) I got your Survey Request, and as a fervent (and I mean every word of that) user of Revolution, I SUBMITTED to your survey. Things got complicated when I checked retired ! Then I got questions like Are you a CEO, etc. etc and then I couldn't go any further. How do you do it ? Do you not consider that Revolution could be used as a hobby by retired Telecomunications Specialists ? Do you only consider those who can bring you more money ? Would you like me to give you a hand into preparing your surveys ? I put as much money as I could into Revolution Studio and On-Rev, and it cost me big bucks, but I can't do without it, and I need it and develop with it every day! But I will stop answering your surveys, because I am not a CEO with 10,000 people working for me. . Until you put a leader question in your surveys : Do you use Revolution for making money, or because you love it With The Greatest Respect -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re : Crappy Website
Richmond, I have a liitle test for you ! Take a look at your desktop. If it is full of little alias icons, and you spend a few seconds trying to find the right one when you want to launch an application, then you can stop reading now. I now know why your sister finds that your site is like a dogs dinner. Now - a second test. Get yourself a pack of different coloured Post-Its, from your local store. You also need a wall .. ! Build yourself a heirarchy of your site on the wall. Each Site Level is a Post-It MENU, and all the items under each menu represent either another level of menu, or a HTML page. If you appear to have too many items in your menu, open another menu level, but try not to have too many. Always ask the questions : Is this the right place for this item, or more correctly, all all the items in this menu siblings ? I agree with Sarah that you should take a look at those CSS templates, but I think it unfortunate that we can't see any drop-down menus there. Using drop-down menus gives you more scope. And all the menus I see, imply a two level heirarchy only. In fact, all the templates are the same design, only the colours change. They all look very nice, but in fact they are forcing you into a strait-jacket. Play with your diagram on your wall for a few days. Sit down in front of it and contemplate it (use the colours for different types of function). Think carefully before you assign a Menu Title, or a Menu Item (Short and Sweet names do the trick). Extension of your site at a later date should be a piece of cake. Finally, spend some time on designing a nice background for your site pages, and use it on every page. It will save you much time. Your site users should be able to intuitively wander your site.. ! (Oh !! - Don't forget a Back to Main Menu menu : ) -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re : Crappy website
Hi from Beautiful Brittany (I've moved) Richard, My sister (who knows about these things) tells me that my website looks like a dog's dinner . . . Would be very grateful for any feedback comparing this: This is your site, and you have put a ton of gung-ho and guts into it. So, be proud of it, but be ready to submit to criticism. That's life ! 1 - Tell them what you are going to tell them ! 2 - Tell them ! 3 - Tell them what you have told them ! Well - maybe you can forget rule 3 !! Based upon those simple rules : 1 - Start with an introduction page (who am I, What am I selling, what have I got to sell). 2 - Separate the levels of information (if it costs you a few HTML pages, so who cares ?) (NEVER mix chalk and cheese (even if they are both white) 3 - Based upon rule 1, don't put too much info on page 1 (lead the user into the areas that may take his fancy). 4 - Use menus (they can be so useful) 5 - And this is the most important : Don't add pages to your site by adding pointers from Page 1. LOOK CAREFULLY at your PAGE HEIRARCHY (do you have one ?) and redesign it if necessary. and finally : If you have to redesign your page hierarchy, this means that you DIDN't HAVE a page heirarchy in the first place. I have learned (with great pain), that building Internet sites is the same as writing any program - (90% analysis, using some antiquated material called a pencil and paper, and then 10% writing and testing). Every time you put up a new HTML page, you are only proving what you have already carefully designed ! I will now duck because of any sh*t hitting the fan ! (but then, nobody is perfect !) -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Looking for a defined path to learn Rev (for new users)
Hi from Paris, Alejandro wrote Always picked my curiosity to know what these holes actually means... :-D and here you find it all :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card#IBM_80_column_punch_card_format Best Regards -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time. But we did it every day ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Looking for a defined path to learn Rev (for new users)
Hi from Paris, Stephen Barncard sent : If one has ever had to work with punched cards (and I have not) genuinely deserves the title hard core. Not only did I work with punched cards (and I think there are more of you out there), but when the IBM026 and 029 card punches were not yet available, we used the Hollerith key punch to punch our cards by hand. Thems were the good old days, when (if I remember correctly, the left bracket was 12-0-1-8-9, that is 5 holes in the same column. Needless to say, we often made mistakes, but it took so long to punch a card, that we used to stick the confetti back in the holes, and then correct the cards. Obviously, after feeding the cards through the reader, a few times, the wire brushes often knocked out the confetti, and we got a reader check. Then we had to examine the card and decide what hole the confetti had fallen out of !! And my VERY FIRST program on the IBM 1401 involved punching up the whole program in machine code, including the bootstrap. If you have never punched the command Set character to word mark, you have never really lived. :) Oh my God - Am I that old ? -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time - but it often was ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Looking for a defined path to learn Rev (for new users)
Hi from Paris, I think Jim has it all sown up. From: Jim Bufalini j...@visitrieve.com So, I think you need focus on the lay of the land first. I went through many languages from 1401 Autocoder, through Fortran, through Cobol, through 360 Assembler, and then through PL/1. I was young and capable of evolving. Hypercard (at the age of 45) was a shock, and Revolution at 60, was a bigger shock. But I took the blows, and came out winning (and not whining !!) The developments of Revolution (revlets, revtalk, On-Rev, shake the traditional programmer, but you have to go with the flow, or sink into oblivion. Then the question arises - Are there any traditional programmers left ? - It MAY be a dying breed. Best Regards -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [On-Rev] Email masking
Hi from Paris, Try : http://www.aspirine.org/emailcode_en.html -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
No returns in my text file
Hi from Paris, I create a password file, I put a list of passwords, one password per line (with returns). I call it genuine file name on my on-rev server Running my first irev (on-rev) routine, I execute the command : put URL genuine file name on my on-rev server into GVPassTable Instead of a list of passwords (line by line) in my GVPassTable, I find that the file contains a single line, with no line separation. Is there something I haven't understood ? Where did the returns go to ? -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Renewing Revolution licence
Hi from Paris, I bought rev 3.0 some time ago. I have just received a mail informing me that my licence will expire in a few days. What does this mean ? Do I have to pay for an upgrade to 3.5, or do I get it free (if I download it within the next few days). Why are there two different prices for Rev Studio ? I see 165 euros (see Store Front page) and also 249 euros (see Comparison Page). Don't understand !! -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Running a stack from the On-Rev server.
Hi from Paris, I have a Revolution demonstration program that I want to show to potential buyers. The demo stack is called by a Mac or PC SplashStack, so I effectively have two stacks. I could send it by CD, but this takes time, but it would be so nice to allow them to download it from my On-Rev server. The program displays lots of text and graphics (all internal), so no problem there, However, the user can play any of a large number of MP3 song files, which are in an external (to the Rev program) folder, also on the server. Can I play an MP3 file in the user computer from a folder on the On- Rev server, or download it (about 5 megs) first, and then play it ? Because this would make all of our song files available (not very intelligent), I would like to modify my splashstack to ask for a password, and only download the music to accepted users. And finally, how does the user download my program (Mac or PC version) from the On-Rev server ? It might seem easy to some of you, but I've never done this before !! This represents rather a lot of questions, but if I get answers here, I promise to go away and not bother you guys for a long time :) May I add that these are the sort of answers which I would love to find in a Rev cook-book. OSX Leopard, Rev 3.0, build 750, On-Rev access. -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re :I need to blink and carry on !
Hi from Paris, Thanks Stephen, thanks Jim - problem solved ! -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
I need to blink and carry on !
Hi from Paris, Way back in the good old days, on a 3270 monitor, we could blink any line. Very useful ! I want to blink an error message, to bring it to the attention of the user, but I don't want to stop the execution of the current script. How would I go about this ? -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AppleScript Users
Hi from Paris, I check in regularly to another forum (applescript-us...@lists.apple.com), just to see what is going on, and maybe to pick up a useful Apple Script. Since the release of Snow Leopard, there has been a flurry of messages talking about all the things that don't work no more ! :( I haven't yet made my decision to go Snow, ..but I think I will wait a little ! -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re : Internet site rules for on-Rev
Hi from Paris, Grateful thanks to Jim Ault and Robert Brenstein for your detailed replies. It is much clearer now. -Francis This is not your real life ! This is just a Test Drive. If it had been your real life, you would have been given much better instructions .. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Internet site rules for on-Rev
Hi from Paris, I've been researching information for my internet site for some years now, and I am soon ready to go live. I have an on-Rev licence, and am impatient to reap the fruits of my work. I even wrote a HTML generator in Transcript, to help me build my pages, because I couldn't understand DreamWeaver :) Several years ago, when they (Who are THEY ?) opened the suffix .fr, I immediately contacted a company who reserves site names, and they charge me some small fee every year, for retaining my site name. I am not sure if site name reservation is complicated, but then I suppose that if we all knew how to fill in a few forms, we would never need lawyers . Question : What do I do when I want to use the on-Rev site for my site location ? Must I continue paying the yearly fee to this Site Company, or can I short-circuit them, now that I have a lifetime with on-Rev ? I imagine that I am not the first to ask this question. - Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Syllabic division of words
Hi from Brittany, Randall, you have been flogging a dead horse for several days now. Revolution doesn't do something you want it to do. You have made your point, and so have others. There are many requests for Rev improvement, correction, and inception of new functions. I'm sure that you have been heard (albeit a little bit too much). I doubt if your request has a high priority, but it is your right to request it. So now, you can sit back Will you please stop filling the forum with complaints about what Revolution doesn't do ? It doesn't exist JUST for you, and you have no right to demand such. If you don't like it, buy another piece of software (although I doubt you will find such far-reaching functions as Revolution permits). And as somebody well respected on the forum suggested : If you haven't got what you want - write it yourself ! Can we please move on to other more interesting topics ? Best Regards -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Syllabic division of words
Hi from Brittany, Mark, Thanks for the book info. Robert Claiborne wrote a wonderful book called Our Marvelous Native Tongue. An excellent read. Looks like the right book to read. Ordered today !! In return, as you appear to be interested in language origins, may I point to an interesting site : http://www.proto-english.org/ Best Regards -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev 4 beta status
Hi from Paris, There is such a word as precursor It's completely authentic, Henry VIII had a strong resemblance to Elvis Presley. What you mean is that Elvis Presley had a strong resemblence to Henry VIII (poor bastard !). -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Windows 7 Platform ID
Hi from Paris, Please ignore my post about the Platform ID from Windows 7. I have flagellated myself (mentally, of course), and told myself to write 100 times : I must not code Transcript and drink Jameson Irish Whiskey at the same time. Of course, with Copy/Paste, this only took me about a minute :) Windows 7 appears to do all the right things (except webcams don't work in 32 bit emul. mode) -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Windows 7 Platform ID
Hi from Paris, I ran one of my rev stacks on a PC under Windows 7, and it did not find a win32 platform ID. Would it by chance be Win64 ? Anybody know ? -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RGB values for a color name
Hi James, I have a nice little stack that allows you to play around with colours,search for new colors and save them, give hex equivalents of RGB values, export colour values to the clipboard, everything you need, including your requirements. Send me a request off-forum. This offer is, of course, open to all ! Best Regards -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev cannot open my jpeg ! - and some serious thinking
Hi from Paris, I bought a Sony-DSC-F717 a couple of years back - went into my list of Best-Spent Money items - gives beautiful photos of 5 Megapixels (I never change the setting). The photos each represent about 2 MB, and with that, I can print out a high quality photo on A4, reasonable quality on A3. My close-up photos of flowers would make many photographers green with envy. What I mean is that a 5 megapixel/2 MB photo is enough for me, and I am a stickler for quality. I have many Rev stacks that display hundreds of jpg photos, and so I had to scale down my photos for rapid display and reduced disk space. I use GraphicConvertor (Mac) - also on my Best-Spent Money list. You can batch scale-down a complete folder, to the size of photos you want. Just in case I ever want higher quality (and I have more than 30 years of 35mm negatives to examine), I also have a Nikon DiMage 35mm scanner, and I CAN scan the negatives up to 100Mb files (what for, I will never know !) I scan my BEST colour negatives to about 20 MB, and I CAN print them up to 1.5 metres x 1 metre posters - much more than the average Yogi Bear requirements. The latest cameras are providing more than 15 Megapxels, and technology will take us much higher within a very short time ! I'm not sure what that represents in MB, but it certainly is a lot. I'm also unsure of the need for cameras of this quality for the average user. Unless you are a professional, you don't need photos of this quality, so why take them ? My next camera (I'm in no hurry) will probably clock in at 25 Megapixels, and I will need to upgrade seriously from my iMac with 1TB in order to be able to store and treat my photos. Maybe 1 photo in a thousand will require that precision (if I want to push it to a poster), but I will have to take ALL of my photos at that precision to do so ! I'll need many TBs to store all of them, and one hell of a processor ! Don't you think that this is just a little bit overkill, remembering, of course that the lifetime of an average photo is about the same as that of a household fly ! I have three photo categories - 1) photos for the masses 2) photos for those who appreciate photos, and 3) photos I am proud of. I examine all my photos and decide which category it goes into, AND SCALE THEM DOWN if they are for categories 1 and 2, THROWING AWAY the originals afterwards. Why waste disk space ? Did you really want all those megapixels ? Which brings me to the forum question I've got photos of 13 megapixels that Rev can't handle. Who wants to push the (Revolution) envelope that far ? Let's assume that you are a professional. Don't use Revolution to solve this problem, it wasn't designed for that - use a professional photo program like GraphicConvertor. Of course you can alway put in a bug report, but seriously, don't you think that there are more important issues to be solved with Revolution ? If I want to knock a nail in, I use a hammer, not my shoe (which was designed for protecting my foot). Revolution is fantastic. It does so many things. Why ask it to wake you in the morning with a hot coffee ? FWIW -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re : Allowing other users to access my cpanel on rev-online
Hi from Brittany, Thomas, Use cPanel File Manager to create a folder that you will open to your other user. Then use cPanel FTP Accounts to create an account for your user, and specify that he has access to that folder only. Download FileZilla and create a site with these account details. Tell your user to download FileZilla, and to create a site with the same FTP account details. Use FileZilla to upload your files to the specific folder. Don't use ON-REV to upload your files, especially if they are over a meg or two - it wasn't designed for that. In Filezilla, with 2 clicks, your user has access to the files you put in this specific folder, and no other. I use this system to make AIFF files of up to 60 MB available to our sound engineer in LA - Works a charm ! If you want a detailed Word file of how to do all this (I made it for the benefit of MY users), I can let you have it off-forum. Hope this helps -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Lost global variables when running on Windows (Sarah Reichelt)
Hi from Brittany (yes - I am in the sunny part of France) Sarah, Thanks for your late call. I really thought that my question had gone unnoticed. I can't see what has gone wrong. I set about 20 globals in the openStack script, and refer to some of them in a Display Photo script. All the globals are defined correctly in both scripts. Some of the globals disappear, and others don't. I have an absolutely standard folder structure for all my stacks, making available Data folders, Photo folders, MP3 music folders. I've never had trouble moving from Mac to Windows. Oh ! I pick up the system Drive ID (on the PC) with the following command, so I can build all my file paths : put line 1 of the volumes into GVPCDrive It always worked before .. But I've just run my stack on the Mac under Parallels, and I got a system Drive A instead of C. This would ruin all of my file assignments, which I build by concatenating my globals ! Must wait till I get back to Paris to look further on my REAL PC. Thanks for your suggestions. -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Lost global variables when running on Windows
Hi from Paris, I'm running Rev 3.0 on my Mac, and I built a standalone Splashstack, so I could run on Windows and update my stacks in real time. I generate the Mac version, and the PC version of the SplashStack standalone at the same time. My SplashStack on my Mac calls my .rev file, and all the functions run perfectly, such as displaying photos from an external folder, whose name I hold in a global variable. I use my global variables to hold such things as : stackname, platform (so I know the PC system drive), intermediate folder names, and I build all my file paths by concatenation of these globals. When I call the same .rev file from the Windows version of the SplashStack, I find I have a handful of global variables MISSING. They are defined and set in the OpenStack script of the.rev called stack, and later on - they disappear. Are there any know problems concerning global variables from use on the Mac to use on the PC ? Any feedback gratefully accepted. -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What do Rev programmers charge per hour for programming?
Hi from Paris, After spending 30 years in the business of selling bodies to do all sorts of things (such as programming), I feel the earth shuddering under my feet. The answer to the above question is the same as it always was : What the market will bear ! Depends on the country, depends on the level of expertise, depends on the emptiness of the stomachs of the programmers (and I put that word in quotes deliberately), and it depends finally on what you want (or what you insist upon). Finally, it depends on whether you are buying or selling ! If you ask for too much, you will forever beat your breast, and ask yourself why you tried to push the envelope. If you ask for too little, you will forever beat your breast, and ask yourself about the definition of prostitution ! In England, we have a useful phrase for situations such as these : The answer is a lemon .. FWIW -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
On-Rev file Transfer
Hi from Paris, Developing my site is put into second priority. I need time to ingurgitate DreamWeaver And I am still light years away from adding /rev commands to my existing HTML files But, I also want to use the 100 GB platform to upload and download some .aiff music files which we develop in France, mix in the States, and then make available to a limited set of users. I tried using the upload/download mechanism in cPanel. I realize that it wasn't designed for VOLUME, so I ran a few tests After a few hours - It was extremely rapid on all files up to about 1 MB, then things go so slow that I pulled the plug. Pretty normal, if you consider that it is usually for Web pages ... ! There also seems to be a brake after a certain data volume. Transferring a 100 KB file after several 1 MB files took forever. I am ready to accept any input from On-Rev experts, but don't worry, I have no qualms - It's OK for me. However, FileZilla FTP's to accounts defined in cPanel zip through in no time - perfectly acceptable for big (50 MB aiff files). So I am happy On-Rev looks good . From cPanel, menus easy to use - watch the videos if you are in doubt - no problems so far . so far !! FWIW -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why Rev needs a cookbook ?
Hi from Paris, Thanks to Sarah and Devin for pointing me in the right direction. As an example, go to this page: http://troz.on-rev.com/test.irev It's not very exciting, but it does some maths as well as reporting various system parameters. Now go to this page: http://troz.on-rev.com/script.irev?file=test.irev This shows the script of the irev file that generates the first page. The data you see on the first page is NOT contained in the script, but the script contains Rev commands to get the data with the html tags to display it in the required format. And I will keep a trace of my blunderings as I try and get my head around On-Rev, until finally I get something up and running. Now THAT may be worth putting in a Cook Book ! -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Another newb question - How to you clear a field?
Hi from Paris, Jacqueline, Did I correctly understand what you put in your recent post : And if literal names are not quoted, the engine takes twice as long to execute the statement because of the additional lookup. Do you mean that the statement : If field MyField = YES then ... executes twice as fast as : If field MyField = YES then ... If this is true, then I am glad I got into the habit of quoting all my field and button statements. It also means that my scripts execute at twice the speed of light :) Thanks for the info. -Francis This is not your real life ! It is only a test run. If it had been your real life, you would have been given much better instructions ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
e: Why Rev needs a cookbook ?
Hi from Paris, I never invented a single thing - this I left to the real brainies. However, I inspected, copied, extrapolated, USED (unashamedly) other peoples code, and turned it to my advantage. So learning Revolution was not, and is not, my problem. There is so much brilliant code flying around on RevOnline, and on the forum, that I could never analyse it all and use it well. Of course, perhaps the Newbies could benefit from a little help in some of this code (there is quite a lot of code that I still cannot get my head around !) My problem is elsewhere. I have never written a line of HTML, have never written commands to access, upload, download, FTP, anything to or from the Internet. I have 40 years of programming expertise, and I don't know where to start off writing code for my Internet sites, or how to put them in place (I have detailed plans for 3 sites and nowhere to go as yet !). I feel that using Rev code inside HTML code could be an enormous benefit to me. I have just lashed out $500 for an On-Rev access, feeling in my bones that it was the right thing to do ... and I don't even know where to start . Maybe the little blog written by André Garzia will help me to lift-off. Cook-Books - Certainly - But what to put in them ? -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to store a stack in a custom property
Hi from Paris OK Jacqueline, you have convinced me. I just bought the $5 Dan Shafer Chapter to complement what I've seen about Custom Properties here for the last few days. When I have got my head around this principle, I will probably spend some nights (I sleep little) thinking : I could have used a Custom Property to do this ! or even How convenient, Custom Properties are ! . And maybe (just maybe), one day, I will investigate the debugging functions of Revolution .. Just when you think you have a handle on Revolution, you find that there are still a million things to learn. Thanks to all on the forum -Francis Progress is just a series of monumental -ups ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
hilite 'sticking' in certain option menus and fields
Hi from Paris, Martin, When you create your button by script, examine the Focus and the Show Focus options which may be selected. When you create a standard button with the IDE, these options are not selected, unless you create a Default button (hilited in blue). I haven't time to experiment, so this is a wild guess . -Francis The best things in life are Illegal, Immoral or Fattening . With one exception ... REVOLUTION ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Did you know that ....... ?
Hi From Paris, Thanks Devin ! Those three pages are now on my wall, right in front of my nose ! -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Did you know that ....... ?
Hi from Paris,
When I upgraded to Rev 3.0, I was happy for so many reasons.
But there were things inside the script editor I found very
painful, even though there were MANY improvements.
The thing that peeved me most was that the script text lines
never lined up. I spent valuable minutes ('cos I love order)
in all my scripts making sure that indents were correct.
Today, I hit the TAB key by mistake, while editing a script,
and BINGO, everything lined up perfectly.
Why is progress so difficult to achieve, and why is CHANCE
so important to achieve this progress ?
(Who was it that first said Progress is a series of -ups !) ?
There are probably dozens of bells and whistles hidden away
in all the corners of Revolution, that we may never find.
I think that somebody in Rev should start a blog with the title :
Did you know that !
I'm sure it would be very popular.
Now I see some of you reaching for your keyboards, to let me
know that this information is on page 2742 of the documentation.
But if I read al the documentation concerning Revolution,
I would surely be a much better programmer - with ZERO stacks
to my credit !!
. et à la fin de l'envoi, je touche ! (Cyrano de Bergerac)
-Francis
Nothing should ever be done for the first time !
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Re: Rev presentation tool - PowerPoint alternative?
Hi from Paris, I grabbed the idea of using Revolution as a presentation tool quite early on. I build many of my slides using EazyDraw (today I can't do without it). I can export them in PDF form (which I prefer for its precision) and also JPEG. Of course JPEG is easier for Rev. I use Snap'nDrag to select bits and bobs of existing diagrams, photos, texts, etc. I have two types of presentation procedures : 1 - A rev stack which can run a presentation of external files (such as JPG files, photos), Simple controls on this display, so that you can have automatic or manual display (time display for individual screens, stop, reverse, etc. makes it a perfectly viable presentation solution. 2 A rev stack where I paste onto each card, the contents of the clipboard (whatever you like). and build my presentation slides internally I use this form, for example, to display stage scenario (actor/singer positions and movement) for our Musical Comedies. This way, I can show a Musical Comedy Movement in real time, or step by step - a valuable tool for Directors. I also add music (MP3) where required. I have a number of model Rev stacks (empty, of course, but containing all controls). I choose one which fits my requirements, and can build a presentation very quickly. And, of course, it is multiplatform, for those unfortunate people who have to go through life on a PC :) -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
ss function
Hi from Paris DunbarX wrote : I am rewriting the ss function in HC. Because it is there. When you have finished, can I have a copy, please ? It seems that I spend half my life searching for snippits of code that I wrote in some stack, somewhere, sometime, and I can't for the hell of me remember where !! I don't know about you guys, but my new stacks often contain whole segments from previous stacks, plus of course, about 30 % of new specifics. The question is In which darned stack did I put that segment of code ? -Francis The life you are living is not your real life - .. only a dry run . ! If this had been your REAL life, surely you would have been given better instructions ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution
Hi from Paris, in the old days when we all weren't quite so long in tooth, we could all roll our own. In HC, I could roll my own tunes without having to know the midi spec and with only knowing how to read sheetmusic. When I wasn't quite so long in the tooth, we used to make our own music using . a 1403 printer The backplate of this printer used to make musical sounds when struck by the print hammers. After a little trial and error, it didn't take long for us to get to near symphony level. Only problem was that it chewed up the paper somewhat. Thems were the days (IBM 1401 - 1964) !! I don't really need Revolution to make music. There are a zillion and one music apps out there, that do the job giga better ! -Francis (apology-music.com) Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OFF TOPIC] How many..
Hi from Paris, Close to a dozen apps at the same time, including GraphicConverter, iTunes, HPPrecision ScanPro, Safari, Skype, Word, MSN, Parallels, SnapnDrag, EazyDraw, EyeTV. I always close Revolution and reload it, 'cos I'm fed up with the message stack with this name already loaded - what do I do ?, although Rev is my most used app ! Strange ! Word is ALWAYS present because it takes an eternity to load ! Relatively few files open, because unlike a woman, I can't do two things at once ! Second monitor on my iMac 20, for running PC through Parallels, and of course Elgato (EyeTV). I CAN work and watch tele at the same time, or else listen to music through iTunes. -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: Kaleidoscopes for all seasons
Hi from Paris, So be dazzled by running this in your message box: go url http://www.jamesphurley.com/KaleidoscopicRainbow.rev; Jim Hurley Had great fun with your stack ! Thanks. -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re : Chunk order must be small to large
Hi from Paris, Take for example 5 * 5 + 1. Did we mean (5 * 5) + 1? Or did we mean 5 * (5 + 1)? Well we know by math formula rules that the multiplication is calculated first, so 26 is the correct answer. It would have been clearer to just use the parenthesis and avoid any confusion, and many programmers would. So does Rev. But my point is, someone decided that was the rule, so we could never be mistaken about what the result would be. I learned, in school (in England), nearly 60 years ago - BODMAS Brackets Off/Divide/Multiply/Add/Subtract I don't think that the rules have changed ! -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can't call a standalone stack from another standalone stack
Hi from Paris Thanks to Devin and Jacqueline for their suggestions. I never thought of calling a.rev stack from a standalone (I assumed the .rev stack would be in IDE mode .) And now, I can I assume (although I must test it), that a standalone called from a standalone is not saved. Sigh ! - in these matters, you try and fail, and then call for help from those who have done it before. Happily, this forum exists. Now my SplashStack works perfectly. -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Can't call a standalone stack from another standalone stack
Hi from Brittany (promroses in flower, mimosa isn't far away !), Running Revolution 3.0 on an Intel iMac. Having problems with a stack call from a SplashStack. I have a folder /Revolution/Standalone into which I move 2 compiled (Intel standalone) stacks (A.app and B.app). A is supposed to be the SplashStack and sets up a call to the other stack (B) in the same folder : go to stack /Revolution/Standalone/B.app I get an error stack is corrupted, check for ~ backup file If I double-click the stack B from the folder, it runs OK. I've checked my paths and I can't find the error. I've tried compiling other stacks, but get the same error. I've tried : set the defaultFolder to /Revolution/Standalone go to stack B.app Still no joy ! What am I doing wrong ? - Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Strange pathname in put the filename command
Hi from Brittany (spring is coming and the mimosa will be out soon), I'm running Revolution 3.0 on an Intel iMac. I create a stack called Mainstack which I store in a folder. You would guess correctly if you thought it was a splashstack. In openStack, when I execute the command put the filename of this stack into field MyStackName, I read /Revolution/RawStacks/MainStack.rev which is perfectly normal, because that is where the stack is. I can strip out the stack name to get the path to the folder. I compile this stack into a standalone on my desktop, with one option Intel Only. This standalone is now in a folder MainStack containing a file MainStack.app I move the file MainStack.app into another folder which contains all my compiled standalone stacks. When I execute the command put the filename of this stack into field MyStackName, I expect to see /Revolution/StandaloneStacks/ MainStack.app, because that is where the stack is. I need this path, because I want to be able to call one of the standalones from MainStack (choosing from a list) Instead, I read /Revolution/StandaloneStacks/MainStack.app/Contents/ MacOS/MainStack. Where did this path come from ? Of course, I can always throw away the part of the path /Contents/MacOS/MainStack, but this doesn't satisfy my curiosity . I imagine (haven't tested it yet) that this part of the path will be different if I move to a PC. What rules govern the creation of this path ? I see from the Rev Dictionary that the filename of stack is different for a standalone - the filename of stack property reports the name and location of the application. Why is Name and location different from Path ? Thanks for any pointers. -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Strange pathname in put the filename command
Hi from Brittany, Thanks Mark, thanks Jim, All is clear. After a couple of dry runs on Mac and PC, my problem will be solved. -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Changing the screenRect within a stack
Hi from Brittany, Thanks to Brian and Sparkout for their valuable links. I will try to do a clean and politically acceptable job. Oh ! And a bigger belated thank you to Brian for all of his Hypercard externals I used for so many years . ! -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Changing the screenRect within a stack
Hi from Paris, Thanks to all for your philosophical suggestions (but no practical solutions). And I was right ! Rev doesn't appear have the means to do all this ! I had (of course), thought about the raping of the users computer, but I already have programs that do this, but as long as they return to normal behaviour afterwards, I don't worry about a program which changes my screenrect. My monitors can handle more than 10 screenrects, and I change whenever I need to do so ! I had thought of ALL of the mechanisms which could help me (scrolling bars, reduction of all fields and buttons, depending on the available screenRect, but quite honestly, I don't have 6 months to dynamically modify windows, fields buttons, textsizes, etc, etc.for a stack that took me a day to write. And I think it ridiculous to write a stack which will run on any monitor when 17 and 19 are the common use, and screenRect was designed JUST FOR THAT PURPOSE ! I just want to change the screenRect, based upon what sizes are available in the host computers. And I will ! Of course, I will ask the user if he agrees .. He can always say no... ! So I reckon, I will have to find out how to do it myself. -Francis nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Changing the screenRect within a stack
Hi from Paris, I have a stack which has a specific window rect (don't we all ?). I want to run the stack on any Mac or PC computer, but I don't know the current screenRect setting for my possible target computers, and my stack window is large enough to provide display problems on other computers. Inside preOpenStack using the get the screenRect command, I can judge if the screenRect currently used on the computer will harbour my stack window. If the screenRect is not satisfactory, I can request that the user sets the screenRect using System Preferences on a Mac, or Control Panel on a PC, and then quit my stack. The user can modify the screenRect and relaunch my stack, but this is a PAIN ! What I REALLY want to do is to know ALL the possible screenrects for the target computer, change the screenRect dynamically for the duration of the stack run (choosing the next highest screenRect in the list which wil accomodate my window), and reset it back to the original value at the termination of the stack. Rev commands can't take me there, but I maybe I can do this by executing AppleScripts (or the equivalent on a PC) Anybody solved this problem ? Help gratefully received ... -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can I tell if a Rev Stack calls QT ?
Hi from Paris, Phil, you did get me thinking, and the answer is so simple, it makes me look stupid. If QT is used in any of my stacks, this stack is in a folder with any supporting files (those used by QT). All I have to do is to put a dummy file in the folder which indicates QT use. If StackB (which, IYI, is an installation setup program) finds this dummy file, it also installs QT on the target computer, if it is not there already. Thanks for kick-starting me ! -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re : How do I do this basic thing ?
Art, How about this ! Create all of your fields on card 1 of your stack. Create a group containing only the left hand field name it. If you want the same contents in each card, set the share text indicator for this field. When you fill it by hand, this text will show in all the cards you create later. Create a group for all the other fields, except the New button (which should not lie in the same boundaries as fields in group 2), name it. Create a group containing your New button name it. Create a group containing all three groups, and define it as a background. In your openCard script :- hide group 2 of card 1. In your New button, lock screen, go to last card, create card, show group 2, unlock screen. Does this solve your problem ? -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do I do this basic thing ?
Sorry Art, forgot to add : If any elements of group 2 are pre-populated, then you define these fields as shared text, or you can populate these fields in the New button script, by passing them through a few local variables from the current card to the new card.. -Francis \ ( (_/ \_\ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Can I tell if a Rev Stack calls QT ?
Hi from Paris, I would like to look at a Revolution stack (let's call it StackA, from another Revolution stack (let's call it StackB and know whether QuickTime is called within StackA (for audio or video functions) or not. Anybody got any ideas ? -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
25 years and no wrinkles !
Hi from Paris, Happy Birthday Mac ! 25 years old today. I still have all of my old Macs in the cellar (can't face the idea of throwing them away). Do we all remember the horrendous prices for Macs ? My Mac 128 will probably sell as a museum piece in a few years, and help me recover the small fortune I spent on it. Mac - You make my day every day, and I don't give a damn about what all those PC users think ! -Francis Nugent Dixon Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ... except maybe a Mac ... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Stack Conditions for Exporting card data
Hi from Paris, I'm trying to identify stack structures that can exist, with the object of developing MY standard Data Export/Import functions, if the stack structure permits. The object of this function is to drop onto certain stacks, a few buttons which will allow Export/Import functions to standalone stacks, to render them dynamically updateable. A simple Data Export function such as I am creating, would be permissible (for the majority of MY stacks)in the following cases : 1 - A stack containing n data cards, with a single group defined for these cards, and declared as a background, 2 - A stack containing n data cards, as in case 1, but preceded by one or more Header cards, whose information content does not interest me in the export function. Information readily available (that I know of) is : the number of cards in the stack, the number of groups in each card, the number of backgrounds in a stack, the groupIDs on each card. I could assume that any front cards of a stack containing 0 groups could be considered as header cards, and could be ignored in the Export function. By examining the LAST card of a stack, I could check if it contained a single group, and check to see if its background behaviour was true, unless of course, I check all the cards of the stack to get their background behaviour status. I can get the backgroundNames of a stack and ensure that there is only one background within the stack. I can check the groupID of each card to ensure that the same group ID (i.e. background) is used within all the cards. However, I am not convinced that these checks will guarantee either of the two stack structures I wish to accept in my Data Export/import function. Questions : Are there any possible tests I didn't see ? Are there any global system values that can provide interesting information which can help me in this area ? Has anybody got any ideas about how to improve my analysis ? Has anybody solved the Export/Import problem for standalone stacks with a standard solution ? -Francis Nugent Dixon Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
F-ab 2.6.1
Hi from Paris, I downloaded F-ab 2.6.1, and then played around with it, thinking I could get back to work in about 10 minutes. My mistake ! - I spent hours on it, and will certainly return during the weekend to see more. Absolutely fascinating - Congratulations to Jiro Harada for his work. I spent some time building a stack to play my favourite UTube videos. Now I can throw it away -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Looking for ugly code comparisons WAS: Slashdotter looking for kids' programming language
Judy, This time you have really got everybody scared. I, for one (after 45 years of programming), will NEVER show you my UGLY code examples, not in Algol, 1401 Autocoder, Fortran, Cobol, 360 Assembler, RPG, PL/1, Basic, Hypertalk, etc. And now with the terrific one-liners on this forum, showing me how Revolution CAN be written, you have even less chance. I keep my lousy programming to myself. But (sigh) it always worked :) -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re :Show Globals
Hi from Paris, Fred, Even before Rev 3.0 came out to efficiently hide the global variables, I had wanted to see such information easily. Now that Rev 3.0 is here, I'm glad I did it. I use the following subterfuge : I build my stacks using one of many existing models. All of my models contain a hidden button. This button shows and hides the following buttons : SHOWVAR, SHOWFIELD, SHOWBUTTON, SHOWGROUP, SHOWGRAPH With these buttons, and using a (hidden) scroll field, I can display or hide the names of all declared globals, fields, buttons, etc. When building these lists, I strip out $variables, and any other names I wish, check field and button names, ensure no duplicate names (I can be a little forgetful). Like Jim, I use a strict naming system, at a glance, you can see what you want. Very useful information when you are building and testing your stacks. When the stack goes live, hide everthing you don't want to see. It will be available in the future if you update the stack. However, I don't know how to show globals assigned ONLY to the current stack. Does anybody know ? If you want the scripts, catch me off-list .. -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Show globals
Hi from Paris, Sorry Richard, my explanation was vague. Launch a standalone, of any single stack, and look at the global variables as I do, and you see only those currently assigned to the stack (obviously). In the IDE, open several stacks at once, switching from one stack to another, and in any of the stacks, you see the total list of globals defined by all current stacks, and you don't know which globals belong to which stack. Best Regards -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re : Confused
Hi from Paris, Jo, I had this problem early on and decided to develop a standard It may look a tad heavy at first, but I have build lots of stacks with external files (music, photos, data, etc.). I have never regretted making this decision. You can always strip the idea down to what you need. I have a folder standard : Revolution Folderforstackswithnoexternalfiles Models StackName1 Data -- .txt files usually, especially 2 data bases - see below) Music-- .MP3 files only - I suppose you can use .aif files, but they are so heavy ! Photos -- .jpg files Program -- .rev file Documentation -- Anything I might want to pass on to the User. Backups -- .txt file backups of the Data base BEFORE each execution. StackName2 Data etc. Any stack with no external file goes into the folder Folderforstackswithnoexternalfiles Choose the name you want. When I create a new stack, I try to base it on one of the many models that I have in my Model folder. Otherwise, it becomes a new model. For any stacks with external files, I create a complete set of subfolders (whose names are always the same) under a subfolder which has the name of the stack. I NEVER deviate from this rule, even if some of my stacks don't need some of the subfolders. Empty folders dont take up much space :) I usually add a Read-Me file to each of the subfolders, to explain to my user how the files of the folder are used. I put an absolutely standard openStack script in ALL my stacks (even if they don't have external files). Depending on the needs of each stack, I can add unique commands at the end of the standard script. In various scripts throughout the rest of the stack, I make available whichever global variables I need from the Openstack script. Obviously, they never change during execution. I have Language buttons in most of my stacks. Click a button and all the labels and messages change to the new language (I have family in 4 continents !) As a result, whatever I need for any type of stack is always available. If I add new functions to the stack later on, the infrastructure is already there. Since I moved to 3.0 recently, I also use this setup for standalone Rev stacks, and the Data subfolder now also contains the exported Data Bases to be loaded into the standalone stack. I have standard Export and Import scripts for use in a standalone environment. I create one data base for each platform (Mac or PC). When I have built my stack, I export the contents to the data bases, empty the stack and save the .rev file to the Program Folder. When I move the folder subset to another platform (The folder subset will go into the Revolution folder which I create the first time). All I have to do is to create an alias of the .rev app and move it to the deskTop. BTW, I use GVxxx for global variable names, and LVxxx for local variables. Best Regards -Francis OpenStack script follows : (be careful of wraparounds !) on openStack -- global GVThisPlatform,GVStackName,GVStackPath,GVStackLanguage global GVDataPath ,GVMusicPath ,GVPhotosPath,GVPrintPath,GVProgramPath,GVBackupPath,GVDeskTop -- -- 1 - Identify current platform and set a few global variables. -- put the platform into LVHoldPlatform -- Get the Machine Platform. if LVHoldPlatform = MacOS then -- Is it a Mac ? put Mac into GVThisPlatform -- Show it is a Mac. put /Revolution/ into GVStackPath-- Set Mac StackPath Header. end if if LVHoldPlatform = Win32 then -- Is it a PC ? put PC into GVThisPlatform -- Show it is a PC. put line 1 of the volumes into LVPCID -- Pick up PC Systems Disk Drive ID. put LVPCID /Revolution/ into GVStackPath -- Set PC StackPath Header with Disk ID. end if -- put 1 into GVStackLanguage -- Set Language - Assume English when loading stack. -- -- 2 - Set my Revolution Paths. These point to Revolution folders which are identical in levels and names, on both -- the Mac and the PC. I use here GVStackPath and GVStackName which have previously been initialized. -- -- Note that (for some reason) the Disk element on a Mac does not form part of the path. On the PC, it is usually C: -- put GVStackPath GVStackName /Data/ into GVDataPath put GVStackPath GVStackName /Music/ into GVMusicPath put GVStackPath GVStackName /Photos/into GVPhotosPath put GVStackPath GVStackName /Print/ into GVPrintPath put GVStackPath GVStackName /Program/ into GVProgramPath put GVStackPath GVStackName /Multiples/ into GVMultiplesPath put GVStackPath GVStackName /Backups/ into
