Re: Color Palette
Okay, I have a distinct but related question... Is there any way to bring up the color picker without blocking messages from being delivered in the background? I have a program in which I send messages to run an event handler several times a second to update various things, but if I answer color, the messages do not go through until I close the color picker... (This is on OS X, if that makes a difference...) On May 30, 2007, at 6:39 PM, Jason Kapadia wrote: Wow, I can't believe I missed that one. Thank you! Do you mean like scripting answer color ? Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design Recently, Jason Kapadia wrote: Is there anyway that I am able to bring up the windows color palette? Like the one shown in the property inspector when you click on the backgroundcolor box? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution _ Need personalized email and website? Look no further. It's easy with Doteasy $0 Web Hosting! Learn more at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Proper Field Validation Methods and other annoyances...
Wow, let's put together a new feature request for BZ... How about, is a user readable date, or is really a date? is a formatted date? On Aug 15, 2007, at 12:21 PM, Rob Cozens wrote: Hi Len, 1) Why does put 4 is a date return true? If this function doesn't actually work, why is it still available? I'd like to be able to have users enter a date without any kind of punctuation (i.e., 08142007) and be able to validate it as a valid date. The same applies to entering 1315 as a time (no colon). Others have explained why is a date returns true for any integer. Here is a function that validates user input as valid according to the current system date format and returns the date in dateItems format. function validDate theString -- 5 April 04:RCC put stripBlanks(theString,false) into theString -- strips leading or trailing blanks from a string get systemDateFormat() -- see Called Routines below set the itemDelimiter to char -1 of it -- the Separater if the number of items of theString 3 then return false delete the last char of it delete char offset(mm,it) of it -- remove double characters, if any... -- which there will be until RR system date -- correctly recognizes suppression of leading -- zeroes delete char offset(dd,it) of it delete char offset(yy,it) of it repeat with x = 1 to 3 switch char x of it case m put item x of theString into theMonth if not validDigits(theMonth) then return false -- each char = 0 and = 9 if theMonth 1 or theMonth 12 then return false break case d put item x of theString into theDay if not validDigits(theDay) then return false if theDay 1 or theDay 31 then return false break case y put item x of theString into theYear if not validDigits(theYear) then return false put length(theYear) into charCount if charCount 2 and charCount 4 then return false if charCount is 2 then add 2000 to theYear if theYear 1 then return false break end switch end repeat if theDay 29 then return truereturntheYearcommatheMonthcommatheDay,0,0,0,0 if theMonth is 2 then if theDay 29 or not leapYear(theYear) then return false -- leapYear returns boolean else return truereturntheYearcommatheMonthcommatheDay, 0,0,0,0 else if offset(0,theMonth) = 1 then delete char 1 of theMonth set the itemDelimiter to comma if theMonth is among the items of 1,3,5,7,8,10,12 then return truereturntheYearcommatheMonthcommatheDay,0,0,0,0 if theDay is 31 then return false else return truereturntheYearcommatheMonthcommatheDay, 0,0,0,0 end if end validDate Cal;led routines: function systemDateFormat put 1999,1,9,0,0,0,0 into testDate convert testDate to short system date -- RR pads day/month regardless of settings -- which means function will not recognize the -- absence of leading zeroes until this is fixed put 2 into characterNumber repeat while char characterNumber of testDate is in 1,9 add 1 to characterNumber end repeat put char characterNumber of testDate into dateSeparater put empty into returnDateFormat set the itemDelimiter to dateSeparater repeat for each item datePart in testDate if datePart 9 then if datePart 99 then put y after returnDateFormat put y after returnDateFormat else if datePart 1 then if length(datePart) 1 then put d after returnDateFormat put d after returnDateFormat else if length(datePart) 1 then put m after returnDateFormat put m after returnDateFormat end if end repeat return returnDateFormatdateSeparater end systemDateFormat 2) This is the biggie. What is the proper way to validate the contents of a field. I tried writing a closeField script that would do the validation, put up a message box if the format/ contents are wrong, then set the focus back to the field for correction by the user. I end up getting two insertion point cursors (one in the bad field and one in the next field. The keyboard does go to the bad field but having more than one insertion point is confusing to me let alone my end users. By the way, I have tried not passing the closeField message but I'm not sure if the tab to next field takes place anyway. Among my back burner projects is a Data Dictionary-driven RAD, which will validate user input in a field as compliant with the Data Dictionary specifications for the data that field captures (eg: required?, numeric?, # of decimal positions, show thousands separator?, show currency symbol?, lookup table, autoentry?, max length, max
Re: Anyone using Apple Aperture?
I'm using Aperture, but I'm not sure that I'd have any current use for these things. I'm sure there are others out there though, and who knows what might happen in the future... On Apr 24, 2007, at 6:05 PM, Ian Wood wrote: Just wondering if there are many list members using Aperture. I've got the basis of a library of AppleScripts and functions related to Aperture such as exporting, getting EXIF/IPTC/custom tags and setting them etc. If there's interest, I'll post the current version on RevOnline for people to play with. Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution _ Need personalized email and website? Look no further. It's easy with Doteasy $0 Web Hosting! Learn more at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Mac question
This is provided for free by Cocoa apps using the NSDocument architecture. If programs are not using the standard Document-based Cocoa framework, they need to implement this functionality themselves (at least partially). On Apr 21, 2007, at 4:27 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Maybe I exaggerated a bit; but even in 9.2 AppleWorks had that function and it continues with OSX and some other Apple apps. I don't know about 3rd party apps. I know that my favorite, MacDraft doesn't have that feature. Still, they all should IMO. Joe Wilkins On Apr 21, 2007, at 10:22 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Though this works; even with most OSX compliant application documents, one of the first complaints I had with Rev was that it does not work when you have a Rev Stack open. This should not be a truly difficult fix I should think. Wow. I knew about Cmd-click in the title for Finder windows, but never knew that was a standard behavior across most apps. So cool. With Rev it may be challenging to determine when to support this, since a stack file can contain multiple stacks. But if we came up with a rule that made sense, or maybe better a property of mainstacks, I'd vote for the BZ suggestion. Now that I know about this I want it for the document windows in my Rev-based apps, and I'll bet some of my cusyomers do too. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution _ Need personalized email and website? Look no further. It's easy with Doteasy $0 Web Hosting! Learn more at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT ] I want money.
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Global Array?
Can someone give me a hint as to how I can set up an array as a global variable? I know how to set up global scalars: global var But how can I do this for an array? Thank you! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Global Array?
For some reason, I thought I'd tried this and it didn't work. It's working now though... Strange. I must have been doing something weird then. Ok, Thank you! On Dec 12, 2006, at 5:49 PM, Jim Ault wrote: On 12/12/06 2:38 PM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone give me a hint as to how I can set up an array as a global variable? I know how to set up global scalars: global var But how can I do this for an array? Exactly what do you mean by an array? The normal Rev definition is simply global gWhiz put firetruck into gWhiz[Tommy] put doll house into gWhiz[Susan] put perfume into gWhiz[Mom] put watch into gWhiz[Dad] Now the global gWhiz has gifts stored in an array structure of keys and elements. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Strange Scrollbar Issue
1. File - New Mainstack 2. Drag Little Arrows control onto card 3. Right-click object - Properties Inspector 4. endValue := 511 5. lineInc := 1 6. Right-click object - Edit Script 7. Enter handlers: on scrollbarInc pos put pos end scrollbarInc on scrollbarDec pos put pos end scrollbarDec 8. Apply 9. Click on little arrows, *nothing* happens as a result (except the hilite/unhilite of the arrows) 10. Add handler: on scrollbarDrag pos put pos end scrollbarDrag 11. Apply 12. Repeat step 9, now 0 is placed into the message box no matter which button I press 13. Remove scrollbarInc and scrollbarDec handlers 14. Apply 15. Repeat step 12, same results 16. Change endValue to 512 17. Repeat step 13, now the value in the message box can be changed to either 0 or 1. 18. Change endValue to 513 19. Repeat step 17, now 0, 1, and 2 are possible to obtain and so on... 20. Replace scrollbarDrag handler with scrollbarInc and scrollbarDec handlers (originals from above in message) 21. Apply 22. Repeat of step 9, with its results - absolutely no change to message box (I even did a put empty, and the value in the message box is not changing). This recipe was constructed under 2.7.1, but it is essentially the exact behavior I was seeing under other versions of 2.7.x... Searching bugzilla revealed the solution in the form of bug 2180: the thumbSize of the scrollbar was 511. 23. set the thumbSize of scrollbar Scrollbar to 0 24. Repeat step 22 - same results, no change to message box 25. Repeat steps 10, 13, 14 26. Repeat step 9, same results as from step 9. 27. set the thumbSize of scrollbar Scrollbar to 1 28. Repeat step 9, same results...? 29. Checked properties, apparently setting the thumbSize to 0 sets the lineInc to 0 as well. 30. set lineInc back to 1 31. Repeat step 9, results are now correct 32. Set the endValue to 511, and can only go to 510 33. Set the endValue to 512 (due to the thumbSize), now I have what I wanted! I'm going to attach this recipe to bug 2180 as a clarification. Thank you! On Nov 18, 2006, at 12:06 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote: I have a Little Arrows scrollbar I dragged out onto a card. With Rev 2.7.1, 2.7.2, and 2.7.4, I am seeing this: I want to be able to select over a range of 0 to 511, so I set startValue to 0, endValue to 511, and the lineInc to 1. When I try to use the arrows, the thumbPosition stays at 0! Try checking the scrollbarInc and scrollbarDec messages, which carry a position parameter. The thumbposition doesn't really change on tiny scrollbars. I think that's because the length of the scrollbar has to be bigger than the size of the thumb before it changes. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Strange Scrollbar Issue
I have a Little Arrows scrollbar I dragged out onto a card. With Rev 2.7.1, 2.7.2, and 2.7.4, I am seeing this: I want to be able to select over a range of 0 to 511, so I set startValue to 0, endValue to 511, and the lineInc to 1. When I try to use the arrows, the thumbPosition stays at 0! I tried increasing the endValue to 512, and I could scroll between 0 and 1, if I set the endValue to 555, I could scroll between 0 and 44... I'm starting to see a pattern here... Why is the endValue being offset by 511? Has anyone else experienced anything like this? ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: The passing of Pluto
The only adds I see at the bottom of your message are the ones that the Rev mailing list tacks on. Now mine, on the other hand... On Aug 25, 2006, at 2:27 PM, barryb@@libero..it wrote: While we all seem to be Ot abut place names , heres my bit. Yes London has practically always been called that. It was Londinos when the Romans arrived, they changed it to Lundinium and so on through the ages. But my favourite is a townlet near here in Northen Italy which the Romans knew by the lovely name of Argentia which makes you think of something silver. In the 16th century it was changed to Gorgonzola! As Shakespeare once wrote (I think) A 'cheese' by any other name would smell as sweet Oh! the adds at the bottom of my posts are not mine, that comes from using a free email provider and I didn't know until I saw it here. Barry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Subversion and online code libraries!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've been playing around with using Subversion for Ada code. The problem with using SVN (or any other modern version control system, for that matter) with Revolution is the fact that the source code (stacks) are binary files. That's okay for simple versioning, but it is somewhat impossible to merge changes of multiple developers. Unless a Rev stack file format is modified to be text-based, and in such a way that developers can manage the discrepancies enough to handle conflict resolution, it is not possible to take full advantage of SVN (or CVS for that matter) with Revolution projects. Partial advantage yes (using locking rather than merging, each developer working with a separate stack file at any given time), but not full advantage. On Aug 12, 2006, at 7:50 AM, David Bovill wrote: Anyone using Subversion out there? I've been using Subversion for the last 9 months or so to save changes to the projects I have been working on. This is not really taking much advantage of subversion other than saving some disk space as every few changes are automatically saved (only the differences). I have this working on OSX, but it should work just the same on windows and Linux. There is not much of an interface yet. The real use of subversion / cvs is with a team working on a project - for instance members of this list working on libraries or components together. I have an online subversion repository that I use, with integrated documentation that I use for my own projects, and was wandering if there would be any interest in others on this list using such a tool? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) iD8DBQFE4khlRS7sy0VSQ1gRAgBHAKCMHwqkl1C5dwn/JNvz+ob+n8AfegCdFJNE JQK0vgRZD3ywa13r316tea4= =84ZE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: restrict number of characters in a field?
Note that this code will not prevent pasting or drag-and-dropping of larger blocks of text into the field. It only works for text newly typed from the keyboard. On Jul 26, 2006, at 12:14 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: On 7/26/06, Peter T. Evensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on keyDown pKey if the length of the text of me 5 then pass keyDown end if end keyDown (note, this hasn't been tested, but just written off the top of my head) Tested and it works fine. Here is a slight amendment to cater for large doses of text and touch typists who don't usually look at the screen and may wonder where the last dozen characters went. on keyDown pKey if (the length of the text of me 254) then beep else pass keyDown end if end keyDown This allows 255 (yes that is correct) characters in a field before it will start beeping at you. This has been tested and comes with a 12 or 12sec guarantee, which ever comes first:-) HTH ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Application Icon Requirements
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I think, based on the subject, that he is looking for a way to create the icons that appear on the application file, for example -- OS- level icons? If you are on Mac OS X, you might look in Apple's Developer Tools, under /Developer/Applications/Utilities, for a little utility called Icon Composer -- that will only work for Mac OS X icons, though. For cross-platform icon work under Mac OS X, there is a shareware program called Iconographer, which can generate icons for both Mac OS X and Windows. Also, if you are just trying to create icons to use on the stacks themselves, for buttons on cards and so forth, just create them as image icons -- they can be imported from files, pasted onto the cards, whatever -- then get the id property of the icon. Use that as the icon number in the property inspector for the button. On Jun 14, 2006, at 11:09 AM, mfstuart wrote: Hi Tom, Doesn't Studio itself have paint tools to do what you want? On the Tools palette, clcik the little up arrow in the bottom right corner. That extends the palette and offers an almost complete set of graphic tools. Anyone able to offer more on this? Mark -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Application- Icon-Requirements-t1783739.html#a4866821 Sent from the Revolution - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) iD8DBQFEnE1jRS7sy0VSQ1gRAq3vAJ0UUCUptV7H9qVj3mwkOKviSrRVJACfa/qf KyvPxlF70m6FZG2P8C8B/oQ= =PeoK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Printing DLOG on Mac OS X
Other OS X programs can do this (Apple's Mail program, for example)... On Feb 17, 2006, at 11:04 AM, Klaus Major wrote: Hi Yves, Hi list is there a way to get the printing DLOG on mac OS X appearing in sheet mode ? I'm not sure, but iI think this is not possible since the dialogs do not belong to Rev. Thank you. Greetings. Yves COPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Crashing in 2.7
The problem is more likely with the operating system. If a mere application can crash it like that, you should seriously consider upgrading to a real computer... No application should be able to cause the operating system to behave like that. Make sure you have the latest security patches and so forth installed, at a minimum. On Feb 15, 2006, at 3:04 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to say something in 2.7 seems seriously wrong. I was doing absolutely nothing exciting in the tool, just running a simple stack with no externals, etc and it managed to bring down WIN XP causing a reboot. I am however running on a dual monitor system which has not been a problem at all for Rev until now. Might that be it? Ironic no given multi-monitor support is supposed to be in this version? I've only just now seen the problem on the list with a change in binary format from 2.6.1 to 2.7. I'm wondering if in fact this might be part of the problem as well. The stack I was running was created under 2.6.1 (and I guess now hoplessly converted to 2.7). Any thoughts out there would be appreciated. I kind of doubt it had anything to do with the file format. There were an awful lot of changes to 2.7, particularly in dual-monitor support and graphics/images. I'd be more likely to suspect something like that. Your stack won't be hopelessly converted to 2.7 format unless you save it. If you just close it without saving, it remains unchanged from before. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Screen DPI
It may also be possible to get that information from the operating system, but it may require writing an external, and the information is not always 100% reliable. On Feb 16, 2006, at 8:00 AM, David Burgun wrote: Hi, I guess you could provide a Calibration function. Display a line of Size N Pixels and then have the user put a ruler to it and enter the size. Some screens vary in their horizontal and vertical DPIs, so you may want to display two lines. You could perhaps build up a database of DPI for screens. Just a thought. All the Best Dave On 15 Feb 2006, at 00:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, Long ago all Macs used 72 DPI for screen resolution. Today it is more like 90 DPI but can be more or less. Flat panels may be over 120 DPI. And resolutions are bound to go higher as everyone tries to accommodate pictures and movies. More madness: most 17 screens and most 19 screens have the same resolution - so the DPI varies significantly depending on the screen where it is viewed. I would just design the at print resolution, 72 DPI (3 x 5 = 216 x 360). Paul Looney -Original Message- From: Peter T. Evensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution-lists.runrev.com use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:52:08 -0600 Subject: Screen DPI What is the screen DPI. I know on Mac, it is usually 72. I'm wanting to create a pseudo-WYSIWYG card editor that lets you specify a size, like 3 x 5, and it displays an appropriately sized card for one to place text on. 72 on Windows seems a bit small. I was just wondering if anyone had a rule of thumb they used. Thanks! Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Installer design and backdrops
It's typically better to use the installation solution provided by the OS when one is available -- user familiarity and so forth... For Mac OS X, I found a free program somewhere called Iceberg which simplifies creation of OS X installer packages quite a bit. It's easy to use, and quite flexible. For Windows, however, I don't really bother with the M$ stuff; I use Inno Setup. The interface should be familiar enough for most Windoze users, and the system is quite powerful. Inno Setup also gives you uninstallers for free - little or no extra work involved for you. Just make sure you get the package of extras, including the graphical IDE-type thing which makes creating the installers much easier. On Feb 16, 2006, at 5:09 PM, Lynn Fredricks wrote: I've grown weary of using third-party installers and I prefer to automate all parts of my build process, so I'm working on a custom installer system for my projects. It seems that WiseInstall and InstallShield use a backdrop behind their install window, but I like the way Rev's 2.7 installer doesn't presume you have nothing better to do that watch the progress bar. So here's the question: Is the backdrop used by so many professional installers really just a useless holdover, or is there some benefit to having it that I'm not seeing? If you were building your own installer would you use a backdrop? If so, why? I did build my own installer (http://www.meshinstall.com) :-) Well sort of -- its going to final candidate status in the next version. MeshInstall doesn't currently have a backdrop but Ive been thinking there should be one as an option. Sometimes installers manipulate files temporarily on a hard disk - if a user can switch out of an install then there's a greater chance they can screw up the process. One of our businesses deals in content, and we needed an installer that we could incorporate serialization into (since the content itself isnt serialized like an app) and pretty up with some branding. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Proactive International, LLC - Because it is about who you know.(tm) http://www.proactive-intl.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Crashing in 2.7
Sure, it's possible. In fact, a simple C program will frustrate many
UNIX systems:
main()
{
fork();
}
Heads up, though: I was just adjusting tab stops in a newly created
stack under 2.7, Mac OS X.3, and Rev locked up. I force-quit and
restarted Rev and the problem has not yet recurred.
On Feb 16, 2006, at 6:31 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
The problem is more likely with the operating system. If a mere
application can crash it like that, you should seriously consider
upgrading to a real computer...
No application should be able to cause the operating system to behave
like that. Make sure you have the latest security patches and so
forth installed, at a minimum.
If only computing were so simple. :)
Somewhere off in Bugzilla I have a recipe I stumbled across which
brings the might OS X to its knees. No, not just my app -- the entire
system.
No, that's not *supposed* to be possible.
But yes, these things can happen on even the most solid systems.
All software always has bugs, and that includes OSes too.
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Fourth World Media Corporation
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John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten
Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have
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Re: OS logos and copyright?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Both M$ and Apple have standard procedures you can go through to be certified to include their logos on your packaging, and special rules apply. See the developer sections of their sites for more info. The answers are out there... On Dec 5, 2005, at 3:56 AM, Mathewson wrote: 2 BIG questions: 1. Suppose I author a piece of software and somewhere within it use the logos of Mac, Win and Tux without any words (c.f. the icons used in the RR help system) if I use them without seeking any licence or permission from Apple, Microsoft or L.Torvalds (?) am I liable under copyright law? Yes, except possibly for Tux -- don't know about that one. 2. Suppose on the box of the software product I write Suitable for WINDOWS with the MS Windows logo - am I legally liable? sincerely, Richmond Yes __ See Mathewson's software at: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.html ___ --- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear --- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFDlggH7aqtWrR9cZoRAiSIAJwLDGoQCjKMgF9/c43H3Ex2JsE4gQCdH0XM Xanf1yGV382uWEyOBDq2oV4= =UBIY -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: More newbie problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You are saving the new mainstack, then opening *that* file, not the old file housing the mainstack you are moving, right? Basically, each file represents a specific mainstack and its associated substacks. If you have mainstack A in file A.rev and mainstack B in file B.rev, then make B a substack of A, save A into A.rev, and open B.rev, file B.rev was never changed during the previous process, so B.rev still opens with B as a mainstack... Make sure you are opening your equivalent of A.rev, not B.rev, when you are doing this testing. On Nov 29, 2005, at 11:53 PM, Bob Hutchison wrote: Hi Chipp, On Nov 29, 2005, at 11:38 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Hi Bob, Sure, it's easy to make a mainstack a substack of another. Go to your stack property inspector of the main stack you wish to make a substack of another. Make sure you're at the 'Basic Properties' section. There's a option button named 'mainStack'. Just click on it and select the new mainstack you want for this stack and it's done for you. I've done this at least a dozen times now. I can set the mainstack option button to the other mainstack. If I save, it reverts back. Change the mainstack again, click on the other mainstack then back on the one I just changed and it reverts back. Basically, I can't get the change in mainstack to stick. Actually, I just tried it a couple of more times. Thought I'd see what the application browser might tell me. It seems that I had an empty substack defined on the mainstack I was trying to move. Once I got rid of that, this worked. OK, I'm set now. Thanks. See below for other answers. Thanks, I'm going to have to get used to this running of scripts to modify things. Cheers, Bob best, Chipp Bob Hutchison wrote: Hi, Having a blast with RunRev... in two ways at least: lots of fun, and shooting myself in the foot So I made a main stack and got it working quite nicely. I've grown attached to it even. Now I am coming to realise that this was something of a mistake. I should have made a dummy stack as the main stack and done my work in a substack. Next time for sure. So I read in the documentation Changing a stack's mainStack property moves it into the same file as the specified main stack. The stack becomes a substack of the specified mainStack. Unless I'm doing something wrong -- and this is a distinct possibility -- then this isn't precisely correct. This doesn't do much when the stack you are trying to change the mainStack property of is itself a main stack. In fact it doesn't seem to do anything. So, barring some error in what I'm trying to do, is there some other way to do this? I can't quite find answers in the documentation. Can you demote a main stack? Can you copy a main stack to a substack? Can you move a card from one stack to another? copy card 1 of stack fred to stack sam Can you duplicate stacks? clone stack fred Can you duplicate cards? clone card myCard of stack fred Thanks in advance for any suggestions. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Bob Hutchison -- blogs at http://www.recursive.ca/hutch/ Recursive Design Inc. -- http://www.recursive.ca/ Raconteur -- http://www.raconteur.info/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFDjjUa7aqtWrR9cZoRAhN+AJ9NxZadfOQn7yvExXs1sfd+yqkhuwCgjh6Q LHt+9EMjVl/yo22KGe9r5LU= =EM2N -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: group syntax question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Why not use hilitedButtonName? Sorry, I missed the beginning of this conversation. Also, if using the label of, consider effective label to ensure that you don't get an empty label if no label has been set... On Nov 22, 2005, at 2:43 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: Eric- Monday, November 21, 2005, 11:14:36 PM, you wrote: Hi Mark, Afraid not with this method... More redeable like this? put the label of btn ID (the hilitedButtonID of grp gpFilter) into tCurBtnLabel switch tCurBtnLabel A bit. I'm open to other methods... how do others deal with finding out which button in a group is the selected one? As in preferences... -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFDhx8q7aqtWrR9cZoRAh7pAJ0Zs38VeITlcJ0ksOVnVZUFUccVEQCfYpkG v897mdFaAvXQ6ll0vz4Q/pk= =sm8K -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: seems to meny If
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Another way to handle this is to create a custom property on the buttons and assign those stings to the custom property: set the myCharacters of button B1 to GK set the myCharacters of button B2 to HK etc. Now you can: put it into comparator repeat with i = 1 to the number of buttons on this card if the myCharacters of button i contains comparator then send mouseUp to button i end repeat (warning: untested code; may require tweaking...) On Nov 25, 2005, at 4:39 AM, Alex Tweedly wrote: Ken Ray wrote: On 11/24/05 8:52 PM, liamlambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how do I write this in a switch statement or is there a better way to write it Well, first of all, I wouldn't name any buttons with numbers - it can confuse Rev - use something like B1 or whatever you like. And secondly, I would put whatever is in it into some other variable so you can make sure it doesn't get messed with. I agree with everything Ken said - but wanted to show a couple more versions (just to prove Rev always offers many choices of how to solve something :-) My solution below uses B1-B12 instead of 1-12, and has put it into tData: put it into tData put JK,AB,JL,JM,GK,HK,IK,GL,HL,IL,GM,HM,IM,HN,IN,GN into \ tPairs put NextTrack,NextTrack,playpause,back,B1,B2,B3,B4,B5, \ B6,B7,B8,B9,B10,B11,B12 into tBtns repeat with x = 1 to the number of items of tPairs if tData contains (item x of tPairs) then do send mouseUp to btn quote (item x of tBtns) quote end repeat For me, it's fatal to use two parallel lists like that - sooner or later, I'll want to add, delete or move one of the entries, and mis-count in the other list. Also, I find it easier to read and comprehend if I keep the string I'm matching directly adjacent to the name of the button, so I'd do something like put it into tData put JK NextTrack,AB NextTrack,JL playpause,JM back into tPairs put comma GK B1,HK B2,IK B3,GL B4,HL B5,IL B6,GM B7,HM B8 after tPairs put comma IM B9,HN B10,IN B11,GN B12 after tPairs repeat for each item X in tPairs if tData contains (word 1 of X) then do send mouseUp to btn quote (word 2 to -1 of X) quote end repeat I might even do put JK NextTrack, into tPairs put AB NextTrack, after tPairs put JL playpause, after tPairs put GN B12 after tPairs which is kind of long winded, but has the advantage of being very easy to scan visually later. For similar reasons, I'd consider putting them in alphabetical order by the index string, rather than grouping by the effect button name - more likely to be helpful when I come back to look at this bit of code in a year's time (depends on where the JK, AB, etc are coming from). Or, I might put lCommands into a script-local variable and do (in initialization code) put JK NextTrack,AB NextTrack,JL playpause,JM back into lCommands put comma GK B1,HK B2,IK B3,GL B4,HL B5,IL B6,GM B7,HM B8 after lCommands put comma IM B9,HN B10,IN B11,GN B12 after lCommands split lCommands with comma and space (in running code) put it into tData if lCommands[tData] is not empty then do send mouseUp to btn quote lCommands[tData] quote end if Which of these I'd choose probably depends, honestly, mostly on the mood I'm in at the time :-) I could however probably put together a half-way convincing claim that the choice would be made according to the likelihood of subsequent maintenance efforts, and finding the optimum balance between ease of reading (by programmer) vs conciseness vs speed vs ... -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.4/176 - Release Date: 20/11/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFDhyKR7aqtWrR9cZoRAq5oAKCR38AK4YFyROEwgQaUMNn2/K6KbgCcD8ff B7eB/EycBP55fUSd+keUQaM= =MBFP -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman
Re: Database Connectivity Problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Aha! What do you know, it's a BUG! According to the docs, the use SSL field should be ignored unless connecting to MySQL. I set it to be the hilite of button checkbox name (whatever I called it), which the interface disabled unless using MySQL, thinking that is what would happen, but lo and behold -- if I check that box and try again, now I'm connecting to port TRUE Taking that part out of the code solves the problem. bug 3232 (and counting...) On Nov 17, 2005, at 12:37 AM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: I'm back... finally! Hi Frank, good to hear from you again. I'm trying to use the database APIs to connect to a PostgreSQL database on the local machine and getting messages like: could not connect to server: Can't assign requested address Is the server running on host localhost and accepting TCP/IP connections on port false? Yes, port false -- that's when I don't specify a port! when I do specify the port, I get this: could not translate host name localhost:5432 to address: No address associated with nodename Could you send the actual script you are using to make the connection? If you are using variables to specify the username, password database name, can you get Rev to put the complete command before executing it, so you can be sure it is really working. Or perhaps hard-wire the data for test purposes to see if you can connect that way. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFDfSza7aqtWrR9cZoRApBqAJsHIscGWtEloe8UaDcMUO6uCZcm0gCdGYsF OvehT6hazj/7LjWSQ8spfVM= =aM5w -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Database Connectivity Problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm back... finally! Sorry if this is a repeat, but I can't seem to find it easily in the archives. I'm returning to the world of Revolution with the latest 2.6.1. I'm trying to use the database APIs to connect to a PostgreSQL database on the local machine and getting messages like: could not connect to server: Can't assign requested address Is the server running on host localhost and accepting TCP/IP connections on port false? Yes, port false -- that's when I don't specify a port! when I do specify the port, I get this: could not translate host name localhost:5432 to address: No address associated with nodename I am getting this behavior under both OS X and Windows. Has anyone else seen this, or have any ideas? Thank you! - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFDe+V77aqtWrR9cZoRAuCGAJsEie0Bi730gZj2a6bROO2KvFP5QgCfc/Kg RYPN8HXxEVpbg+Hzk/sTvtM= =iCTy -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The Disappearing Desktop - It's Real This Time
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Depending on your definition, it might be Archie: http://www.let.leidenuniv.nl/history/ivh/chap4.htm The first web search engine seems to be a difficult one to track down, however... On Nov 16, 2005, at 9:11 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: I can't even remember the first search engine. - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFDe+5G7aqtWrR9cZoRAvkXAJ9Hvnlei8BrERLY7sDwZZbuJVFQkgCdFp2b BJvWw/we74MsTQDSdmNZGfw= =1MSV -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: PenTool v3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Very nice! On May 18, 2005, at 12:05 AM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: Hi developers, Download the stack: Pen Tool v3 from: http://geocities.com/capellan2000/penToolv3.zip _http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/penToolv3.zip_ This stack shows five buttons: a pen tool,two Selection Tools, and EXIT and Help buttons. (These nice icons are from the collection of Ximian Project for Open Office) To start, open the stack penToolv3 as a palette. Write in the message box: answer file Choose stack penToolv3;palette it Changes from Pen Tool V2: To edit the points of the graphic, choose the hollow selection tool. Click on the line or the fill of the graphic to show the control and vertex points. (Notice, if you had resized or moved the graphic with the pointer tool, this tool makes the graphic to redraw itself). Move the vertex or controls points to reshape the graphic.Double click on the line or fill of the graphic to hide these control and vertex points. To move or resize the graphics, choose the pointer tool and change the size of any graphic or move them. After moving or resizing the graphic, you had to select it again with the hollow selection tool, to redraw it. IMPORTANT: Everytime you choose a tool in the palette penTool the script from other tools in the palette is removed from the frontscripts. If you want to remove all frontscripts from this palette, click on the EXIT button (An open door with a red arrow). Feel free to adapt this handler for your own purposes, all that i ask you is: keep an updated link to my website in the documentation of your software or your website. i have handlers for adding, deleting and converting the points of these graphics. Later, when debugged, i'll add them to this palette. eventually, i'll include the handlers for graphic transformations: scaling, rotating, skew and flip. i have rotation and scale already working fine with these kinds of graphics (and both custom properties). If you want to use these handlers, i recomend that you print and study them, while using the tool. Then, add your own comments to the code. I'm sure that in this way you will found and fix any error that escaped my own knowledge. This is the best way to understand how this code works. Send comments and report bugs to my email direction. Thanks in advance. Alejandro Tejada Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCizol7aqtWrR9cZoRAiGDAJ91vvgttEzFQpSeFXvp6lQ9je0OqgCePKW/ 0CkvLFQCaDt7hbkMObucLSQ= =TDFH -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Downloading Updates --the current stack?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If your bundle is set up properly, then work with the assumption that a normal user will not be able to write to the bundle if it is installed for multiple users, but an administrator will be. OTOH, if the bundle is installed for a single user, that user should have write permission. This is a *good thing,* since it prevents arbitrary replacement of the stack's file by an ordinary user, possibly with false intent... On May 18, 2005, at 4:27 AM, Klaus Major wrote: H Jeanne, At 12:50 AM +0200 5/18/05, Malte Brill wrote: JAED If it's not the main stack of the running application, you can JAED download the file, replacing the outdated file, then use the revert JAED command to load the new version from disk. Could there be trouble with file permissions? E.g. If the stack is inside the bundle on OsX? There shouldn't be. The revert command just reads the file - and the application had to do the same thing when it started up. If there's a problem with read permissions for the file, it will exist every time the user runs the application, even without downloading a new copy. i am sure Malte meant eventual problem with WRITE permissions inside an OS X bundle. What about that? Anyway, i would recommend to store stack that might be replaced/updated into some other place like where you DO have write permissions: ##Mac OS X/OS 9 specialfolderpath(preferences) ##Prefs folder of current user ##Mac OS X: specialfolderpath(asup) ##Application Support ##Win 2000/XP specialfolderpath(35) ##Don't know the english name of this folder, sorry... ##Win 95,96,97,98 specialfolderpath(system) ##a.k.a the black hole: C:\Windows :-) ##Unix/Linux $HOME ##(Homefolder of current user) -- jeanne a. e. devoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jaedworks.com Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCizsU7aqtWrR9cZoRAtrTAJ454REymGboxMCLAWb8YB3pI3jqXQCdGfJw 7sztfk2m7jAPMhn0RbamO4k= =PSd5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Use an another player that XAnim
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Look out, though; have you been to the mplayer home page lately? http://www.mplayerhq.hu/ On May 17, 2005, at 4:16 PM, Damien Girard wrote: Le mardi 17 mai 2005 à 10:25 -0700, Mark Talluto a écrit : On May 17, 2005, at 8:42 AM, Damien Girard wrote: Hi All, I am using revolution under Linux, and about video and audio feature, this isn't very great for now. So, I have seen that there are the vcplayer command in runrev. So, I want to choose an another player that Xanim (who aren't supported anymore since 1999). But I didn't know a player who can work with revolution. I have tried with mplayer, but this doesn't work. Thanks. Take a look at feature request: http://support.runrev.com/ bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=2290 Mplayer would be the obvious choice. Though, if you are into rumors, one is floating around that Apple has or is porting QT to Linux. Has something to do with iTunes for Linux. That would be the very best solution for me. Mark Talluto Is it only a rumor, Apple can port QT to linux, but I didn't think now. Mplayer is considerated has the best media player for linux (because he can read anything). So, for now, runrev can read only video and audio file with Xanim ? (I tried with Xanim and runrev doesn't work with it, nasty bug). Damien Girard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCizwN7aqtWrR9cZoRAl8yAJsFyqkAytiTup9w2GX8isA20pt3OQCeLNMn 4tiD94ddDeDXW+/is9Ea3D8= =sDHC -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: wooo hoooo!!!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Most of the better icon editors have a feature which will automatically generate the other icon formats for you; just create one in the largest, most colorful format, then ask the editor to create the other formats for you automatically based on that one. On May 18, 2005, at 11:07 AM, Lynch, Jonathan wrote: I actually successfully created an icon for a standalone app on Windows! This had been confusing me for some time. Yeah, I know you guys do this all the time, but as a relatively new user, this was quite a challenging task. What I was not getting, was that the icon file actually contains 9 separate images. I kept creating the icon into one of the acceptable formats, thinking that revolution wanted me to pick an appropriate format, and that somehow my ico file was not formatted properly. Actually, it wanted me to make it in all of the formats. Once I read the error message more closely, I got it. But, man, it sure takes a lot of work to create an icon - 9 images total. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCi1uU7aqtWrR9cZoRAuOgAJ9v+bkSGfgtFN3mRxtYvY/QYl8bOwCfQDjd NcdH2+Fln9YgVcqJFpfcdqs= =9DY0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Which one is faster ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Note that something like: switch someExpression case someValue ... ... end switch in *compiled* languages tends to be faster than numerous or nested if statements, because the someExpression is evaluated once then considered for each case, whereas with the nested if statements it has to be evaluated multiple times, once for each branch of the comparison. So my guess would be that an if statement would be faster for a one-way branch (or a simple, one-layer if-then-else, probably), whereas once you hit multiple statements the switch/case would grow to have more and more of a speed advantage as the number of branches increases. Don't have time to really test this for Rev right now, though I'd imagine it would be similar to compiled languages in this way. On May 18, 2005, at 12:27 PM, MisterX wrote: i guess that if the if are single equal operations, they should be the same. If you include functions or complex or multiple operations in a case or [else] if, it will be tested until a false is found or maybe they have a magic value cache referer to parse it faster but improbable. In any case, use the if if you have few conditions. Use case with many options (like a menupick handler). Speed... OK, in terms of speed, if you do a zillion loops, these are going to have an impact. For the ocasional if or case, it's pointless to ask but for hardworking loops, it does matter a lot. In terms of design, the if will be faster because it's easier to segment the conditional usage of conditions more precisely than with a case. However, a case allows the same kind of usage switch -- note the lack of parameter, now the case handles if cases! case a=b break end switch Now, you can test this easily and this is the MonsieurX's quality bonus trick of the day to do some easy benchmarking... Note it uses dynamic script execution but im not sure it will really impact the whole test. In any case, you can rescript it into on bigger script unwrapping it all and see for yourself if the average exectution time is different... Could be interesting... BUT i got a another problem right now that prevents me from doing it at all now (just farging had to fargin happen! My mom is home a day too early! )$(@[EMAIL PROTECTED](*%) See the mail i wrote to Eric C. yesterday for his network benchmark? Here's the newer version ;) Untested, might have a bug but sorry, mom is here ()(%*)@#([EMAIL PROTECTED])) on mouseUp put random(100) into a put random(100) into b hilite me ask Loops: with 1 if it is not a number or it 0 then exit mouseup end if put it into loopcount -- do a standard test for non-conditional operations -- aka normalizing the data without those two statement's -- time taken into account into the final stats put dobenchtest(get abCRget the time, loopcount ) into normDelta put dobenchtest(if ab then get the time, loopcount) into iftest put dobenchtest(switchCRcase abcrget the timeend switch, loopcount) into switchtext put normDelta put iftest put switchtest /* you can script the rest regarding deltas of if and switch tests against normdelta (item 1 of iftest-item 1 of normdelta) which makes a normalized statistic result on the if and case information only without the get the time or ab operation's time taken into account. Also note that without a minimum of 100 loops , it's not exactly meaningfull information. */ unhilite me end mouseUp function dobenchtest what, loopcount do what -- cache put the milliseconds into tStart repeat loopcount times do what end repeat put the milliseconds - tStart comma after tlist return average(tlist), min(tlist), max(tlist), standardDeviation(tlist) end dobenchtest Exeptionally, Im releasing a statistics free open source stack about statistics. I haven't finished the about and the total testing but it used to work great Just a few minutes to make it TAOO presentable and i'll announce it. Cheers Xavier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jbv Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 17:26 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Which one is faster ? Hi list, Which option is faster : switch staements or nested if-then-else ? Has anyone run tests on this ? Thanks, JB ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life
Duplicate image issue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have an image I am using as the icon for several buttons. The image is listed twice in the Application Browser control list -- same layer, same ID. Well, at least one button using the icon with that ID shows the correct image. At least one other shows the chasing arrows from the standard Rev icon set. I tried deleting one of them, but every time I do so Rev crashes. Anyone have any idea how to fix this one? Thank you. - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCiOzk7aqtWrR9cZoRAqJnAJ42MTAY9xuhJtcJhs1Ncc0568BC8QCdFPTR Rr1A9mxG7I7YsljzdHSYCiA= =dWJZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Collecting Sound Files in a stack
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ah, yes that is true. *Uncompressed* WAV files (and not all of them are, I think), would indeed preserve better audio quality than either of the other formats. However, if the concern is to get the sound across in a smaller amount of data space, compressed audio formats such as MP3 and AAC would reduce the amount of space taken up by the files substantially, and are typically good enough for most purposes. So it depends on the intended usage of the files once they reach their destination: if the compressed quality is indeed good enough, then going with MP3 or AAC would likely be a smart move. However, if there is higher demand for audio quality, then a higher-quality lossless or uncompressed format (AIFF, WAV, etc.) would likely be needed, although it will increase the storage, and therefore the amount of time it will take to transfer across the 'net. FWIW, I found a discussion concerning AIFF, WAV, and FLAC formats here: http://forums.slimdevices.com/archive/index.php/t-4131.html A comparison of AAC, MP3, and OGG was here: http://forums.macnn.com/archive/index.php/t-161144.html As an alternative to repackaging the files, have you (original poster) considered using a more robust file transfer program which auto-resumes broken downloads? On May 13, 2005, at 4:56 PM, Stephen Barncard wrote: Frank, I rarely disagree with you , but MP3 and AAC are NOT and will never be Better than a raw WAV file, audio wise. Uncompressed Broadcast WAV files are the standard of the audio industry, supported by every DAW and platform, and supports all bitrates up to 192k. The others, as far as good audio is concerned, are inferior consumer audio 'toys'. Meridian 'lossless' is the only thing that comes close, which is what is used in DVD-A releases. The original poster was sending sd2 files, which indicated that he wants to send uncompressed full bandwidth files over the net. - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFChe4a7aqtWrR9cZoRAh1uAJ4pnJ8uSTESYDvX3+b1ei510gtSzACfW43p DupfjbUfUvdCmW/97K3Av1o= =r0Je -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Launch PDF's into Acrobat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Under OS X, you also have Preview, which in many cases does just as good a job as Acrobat Reader (if not a better one), and is often much faster. Acrobat Reader is also available for many UNIX platforms, and there are open-source equivalents, such as Xpdf... On May 14, 2005, at 12:59 AM, Trevor DeVore wrote: On May 13, 2005, at 9:54 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: If you just want to display PDFs and can live without Acrobat's features, you can display PDFs in a Player object. This will only work on OS X. QuickTime doesn't support this on Windows (or OS 9 IIRC). -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFChfGh7aqtWrR9cZoRAtUTAJ41k57F9AXQR0kaO2fGTtvAvIW14gCeKF1v j7DSK2RgVUwbsiJ/7TLJsuA= =kPtA -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting started with Rev Databases
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I think the revdb_ things are leftovers from an older version of the RevDB library, with the newer synonyms like revCloseCursor and revOpenDatabase being the newer replacements. Could be wrong, but that was my understanding. A cursor in the sense used by the revCloseCursor command refers to a pointer of sorts, but it is not the mouse pointer. When you query a database to retrieve results, you get what is sometimes referred to as a result set. The cursor being referred to by revCloseCursor is a pointer into the result set, indicating where your code is currently looking within the results. In short, to use a database, you: 1. Connect to the database -- revOpenDatabase function 2. Query the database -- revQueryDatabase function, revExecuteSQL command 3. Retrieve data from the result set (when SELECTing) -- revDatabaseColumnNamed function, revDatabaseColumnNumbered function, revNumberOfRecords function, revMoveToNextRecord command 4. Close the cursor when finished retrieving information -- revCloseCursor command 5. Close the database connection when finished with it -- revCloseDatabase command Real quick, untested example: put revOpenDatabase(postgresql, localhost, myDatabase, myUsername, myPassword) into dbconn put revQueryDatabase(dbconn, SELECT name, phoneNumber FROM myTable) into q put empty into res repeat for revNumberOfRecords(q) times put revDatabaseColumnNamed(q, name) tab revDatabaseColumnNumbered(q, 2) cr after res revMoveToNextRecord q end repeat revCloseCursor q put char 1 to -1 of res into field Results revCloseDatabase dbconn On May 14, 2005, at 2:17 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Mark Wieder wrote: Richard- Friday, May 13, 2005, 6:44:09 PM, you wrote: RG Also, what's the difference between commands that start with revdb_ RG and those starting with revDatabase? According to the documentation they're synonyms. Thanks. That's curious. Why would they do that? And some seem to be exceptions, like revdb_closecursor being a function while revCloseCursor is a command (and the latter doesn't include database, which might allow it to be confused with something related to the pointer). H -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFChfUF7aqtWrR9cZoRAgTOAJ40AGFFWyYerX+EdWBT1EvixLZwGQCcCP9u 4QGw6cKJRcogE8ydZvVQIfg= =h6c8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac and PCs graphic speeds (was: Ken Burns Effect in Rev?)
1GHz Mac it's fairly choppy. :( Does it look smooth on your machine? Amicalement, Eric Chatonet. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone 33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile 33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFChfn/7aqtWrR9cZoRAkShAJ9eG2iw5sEx/AREkaB+GIlAaKjBFwCdE2d0 pCfuIqBojyurbZoLh3peU0w= =LVTv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Database suggestions?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What do you mean there is no native RevDB support for PostgreSQL? I'm using ALL THE TIME!!! PostgreSQL works great. It is free for commercial and noncommercial use, and it is being used with some *HUGE* databases. It also has a number of high-end SQL features that (last I checked) were still missing from MySql. PostgreSQL is fully ACID-compliant and has numerous free and commercial tools available to support it. See the FAQ here: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs.FAQ.html On May 14, 2005, at 6:18 AM, Pierre Sahores wrote: Hello Ken, Richard an All, Just see how simple it can be to connect PostgreSQL 7.xx or 8.xx from within Rev 2.xx (Mac OS X and Linux, Win32 untested) or Rev 2.xx and Metacard 2.3 and above (Linux, Win32 untested) : Not nearly so simple as just using the RevDB libraries, which offer native support for PostgreSQL. I've used it under both OS X and Windows (OS X development and standalone, Win32 standalones) - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFChf177aqtWrR9cZoRAjKDAJ9PFtzefvVwzsW9rTDN64yGi4bEFgCgkCmk Iv6W4Z3ue1AKrcYI5Zc+HV4= =xOPc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Collecting Sound Files in a stack
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 MP3 or AAC would be better than WAV anymore, and they are more tightly compressed. As for the text files thing, look up the fileType property in Rev's docs. On May 13, 2005, at 1:26 PM, Stephen Barncard wrote: One thing you should know is that Stuffit and most data compression will not save you any size with audio. There are special lossless compression techniques for audio, but they are proprietary and time-consuming, and the best you could do would be 2:1 with those. Lemper-Ziv/ RLE encoding of audio will probably make the file BIGGER. Also SD2 is an obsolete audio format, Apple-centric with resource forks, and that's probably where the problems are. Try converting source files to WAV files instead, which do not have resource forks, and can probably survive the travel. You shouldn't have to build a standalone as a carrier. At 12:42 PM +0100 5/13/05, Mark Smith wrote: I've been having problems sending a largish batch of sound files (500 mb or so, in sd2 format) to an ftp site for a colleague to download - various experiments with creating stuffit archives have resulted in corruption of data So I thought of building a Rev standalone that contains all the files as customProps, and which will spit them out as sound files at the other end. My initial experiment involved reading in the files (using the binfile URL scheme), and then spitting them back out again (also using the binfile URL scheme). The resulting files are the correct size, but OS X now thinks they are text files (they are supposed to be sd2 files). Adding the .sd2 suffix to the file names gets them recognised as sound files, but the quicktime player (which plays the originals without difficulty) simply barfs on them. I've tried compressing them on the way in and decompressing them on the way out, but apart from reducing the size, this does not help. Any ideas? Thanks, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFChOzG7aqtWrR9cZoRAo1zAJ0VSlzrU9NS0AZGqhX2zwFIQGnkEACeM8ft esxluRMtdT9d4+mVF5ZnWV0= =SMTK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Table Field Docs?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On May 9, 2005, at 8:24 PM, Peter Reid wrote: I'm very keen to use table fields but need to know how to load and unload a complete table field quickly and efficiently. I've seen some of the earlier messages which mention revReadCellValue, revWriteCellValue, cREVTable[], revDisplayFormattedData, but NO complete documentation for how to manipulate and display table fields. It is somewhat of a cheat to claim that Rev supports Spreadsheet fields (see http://revolution.runrev.com/section/features.php for the claims) but then doesn't provide ANY documentation for how to actually use them apart from when attached to database queries!! Moreover, if you try to apply general field manipulation techniques things go really weird with edited cells still containing old values, etc. Specifically, I want to be able to: - load/unload a complete table in one go put tableContent into field Table Field -- put data into complete table put field Table Field into tableContent -- get complete table data - clear a table put empty into field Table Field - address individual cells for reading/writing set the itemDelimiter to tab -- the lines in a table field have the columns separated by tabs put 6 into item 5 of line 7 of field Table Field -- row 7, column 5 put item 3 of line 2 of field Table Field into mycell -- row 2, column 3 - fix the number of columns when tabbing across not sure what you mean by this one? - have table column headings that scroll as the data table scrolls Hmm, you could put the headings in another table immediately above the one they belong to, set the tabStops the same, eliminate the scrollbars, make it non-editable, and put a bit of code in the main field (Table Field) to keep the horizontal scrolling in sync. I did something like this with an experimental stack I had started at one point. Then you could format the other table field however you want. and I need proper documentation (or even SOME documentation!!) in order to do this. Is there anyone on the list (or better still from RunRev) who can provide more comprehensive documentation for table fields, so I can REALLY use them?! Cheers Peter -- Peter Reid Reid-IT Limited, Loughborough, Leics., UK E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCgJNm7aqtWrR9cZoRAqARAJ0by0DNM6XTJ+ER1xnqcZi+TWA6XACeMfyR ygo54e8UN2rsiBHM3FsEKDQ= =SxNU -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Error saving standalone -- revisited yet again
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 NO!! I just backtracked to an older version of my stack (from a backup) and tried with that, and it worked! It looks like my stack file became corrupt somewhere down the line. I guess I need to start going back through backups until I find the newest one that doesn't have a problem, then try to patch it to match the current version. Well, at least it seems solvable now... On May 4, 2005, at 9:58 AM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I never use the single-byte , = or = versions in any of my scripts. I just checked the only other script I may have added from an outside source since this last worked, and they are clean. I tried suppress messages and save standalone, no good. I then made an exact copy of the stack (using the Finder), opened that copy in Rev, tried saving that as a standalone. Still not working. Next, I tried commenting out the savingStandalone, preOpenStack, openStack, closeStackRequest, shutdownRequest, and closeStack handlers in my mainstack, along with the preOpenCard and openCard handlers in the first card of that stack (I'm working with the copy). I then saved the stack, quit Rev, reopened the stack, turned on Supress Messages, and tried saving the standalone. Same unhelpful error. Needless to say, this is getting rather frustrating. The stack represents several months worth of work. There are 40 substacks, one of which has 42 cards (the mainstack has 8 cards). The mainstack's script got to be so long I broke it down by adding a backscript via a field on the first card (it is added by the preOpenStack script which I commeted out -- that's why I quit Rev before trying to build again). That backscript got to be so long I forked off a *second* backscript, so that there are now two backscripts: one with 838 lines, and one with 803 lines. The mainstack script still has 473 lines , and some of the cards on my mainstack have scripts with line counts like 889 and 807... some of the substacks have scripts of over 200 lines, and a few of their cards have scripts on the order of 100+ lines. And these are just the stacks and cards! Some of the controls also have scripts of several hundred lines each. Needless to say, I can't really afford to lose this stack. I have backup copies, but with this level of complexity, backing up even a step or two could be rather costly, and if the same problems occur... Okay, one more thing I thought to try: I have a number of externals I'm using, some of them are custom ones (that I built). Rev crashes every time I build a standalone from a stack using certain externals (after displaying the message that the standalone was successfully saved, or now this error), and this is one of those stacks. I tried setting the externals of the copy (the one with all of the handlers commented out) to empty, quitting Rev, and repeating the process. Rev thinks about it a little longer now, but still comes back to the same error message. At least this time it didn't crash afterwords ;-) The destination folder (the folder created during the save process) is still not created. On May 3, 2005, at 10:50 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Hi Frank, Here are a couple of other suggestions. 1) If you're using a Mac, make sure = is two characters not one. 2) Try commenting out all preOpenStack/preOpenCard openStack/openCard handlers and then build the standalone. If it works, then you can assume you're doing something in the handlers which is creating problems. Enable one at a time and locate the problem handler, then debug from there. Let us know what you find. best, Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeNUO7aqtWrR9cZoRAgsSAJ4iaTIN/UNPxIuh9vN3OmUtrIcGRgCgjokC j4SxZFX+djDVmdVFfwhNQjs= =L6sI -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his
Re: Update to 2.5 from 2.2????
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On May 5, 2005, at 1:31 AM, Brian Yennie wrote: To do that, RunRev would have to register at least one signature for each customer, which doesn't seem practical. (Signatures aren't arbitrary; they're assigned by Apple, and it's a big no-no to roll your own because it risks tromping on a legitimate, assigned signature that's in use for another application.) Which would be a shame considering how easy it is. You just fill out a short form on Apple's web site and Apple eMails you after a day or so and tells you if you've got 'em or not. It's quick and easy, relatively painless. http://developer.apple.com/datatype/creatorcode.html All they ask for is your name, your company's name, address, and phone number, your eMail address, the name of the product, whether or not it is a device driver (for Rev apps... generally No), and the code(s) you are registering for the product. You can enter up to 12 codes on one form to save you time; they do seem to imply that you should submit a separate form for each product, however. True... but I would guess that of the fraction of people who are actually filling out the creator code, even a fraction of that actually register their signatures. (I think I'd put up a warning message when someone builds with the default signature, though, just for general awareness.) This is an excellent idea, and I would recommend it to Rev. Anyone BZ this yet? If not, I'm certainly willing. - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCehFJ7aqtWrR9cZoRAuNAAJ99T13sgrDAB6PBLgS0oI7z4/yaUwCeOWJg fMOdtAWcg6DPWJwSR0ypQy8= =/OK4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux/Unix folder paths
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There is no real firm standard as far as storing prefs on a *NIX-type system; different programs make up their own, and there are special places for certain graphical environments such as GNUstep. One simple way is to place a hidden file (start the name with a dot) in the user's home directory; use a hidden folder if you need multiple such files. On May 4, 2005, at 7:15 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: Hello all you Linux/Unix gurus out there, I was hoping someone would be able to tell me a few things about where such systems put various types of files. Where so you store preferences? I see that the specialFolderPath() function is Windows Mac only, so how would I know where to store preferences on a Linux system? Where should an application be installed? And what if I want the application to be available to a particular user only e.g. on my Mac OS X system, I have /Applications for apps that everyone can use and /Users/sarah/Applications for apps that only I can use. The second is better if I need to write to the application folder as the user has write access to that folder even if not an admin user (at least I think that is correct). TIA, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeml07aqtWrR9cZoRAif6AKCB6FffQRY2wb30n6szI4gdRuw5dACfQiSm z1Lzx0EPRV7hl+qYyl+W6nk= =A0U9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Icons for OSX
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Icon Composer is part of Apple's Developer Tools, and is found in /Developer/Applications/Utilities. Another good program is Iconographer; you should be able to find that one easily using Google. On May 5, 2005, at 10:21 AM, Yves COPPE wrote: Le 05-mai-05, à 16:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : I'm probably doing this backwards but I'm developing with 2.5 on a PC then building standalones for OSX PC (gives me a pleasant surprise when I first view on the mac) I'm stuck on creating OSX application icons. For Windows I'm using Articons and that works fine for the PC side but the icons are not recognised by Rev when I try to select them for OSX. I've read about Icon Composer but have no access to it (how do I get it?) What format are OSX icons? format : ICS I use the apple software : IconComposer very easy to use. Greetings. Yves COPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCems/7aqtWrR9cZoRAvDTAJ4hBGXsurzCQICyp0LZpRcX2JQi6ACeMVQH kgc/kz3qXhrAYt+ED7Pti0U= =XqwX -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drawing a straight line
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Why don't you just use the line tool? For bitmap line drawing, it's hidden in a submenu with the curve tool (just left of the pencil). On May 4, 2005, at 2:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, well, seems the good folks at RunRev haven't put all the HyperCard goodies in yet. Or there is another bugzilla pilling up dust ;) There's the resizeN2O plugin i wrote that could do this easily with a few tweaks. http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Downloadsd_op=getitlid=78 But it's unfinished, under-funded and no-one seemed interested. So i put i into the bottom of the pile... I'll put it in the coming week's todos and i might include it in GIM - my new Graphical Interface Manager cheers Xavier On 04.05.2005 06:09:33 use-revolution-bounces wrote: I have recently been converting some stacks from HyperCard into Revolution. In the process of putting the color back into the stacks, I have found that I need to be drawing straight lines with the pencil tool. However, as for as I know, there is no key that I can hold down such as shift to keep the line going straight, as I can in other drawing apps. Does anyone know of a way to quickly add this functionality to Revolution? Scott Slaugh ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGEInternet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message.The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries.END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeMyL7aqtWrR9cZoRApGGAJ9QlOjiWipM5qyzjASwWktG2uR76gCfV2ua IBQU34IlV89+YL4cZQWFUKo= =4EcZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Error saving standalone -- revisited yet again
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm not using MetaCard (I don't have a license for that, and have never even tried it), and I never did anything to add a nonempty resource fork to my stack (technically, all files on an HFS filesystem have a resource fork, but they are typically empty). ls -l stack-file.rev/rsrc shows a resource fork with a zero length, so that cannot be it. On May 4, 2005, at 2:58 AM, Signe Marie Sanne wrote: Frank D. Engel, Jr. skrev: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Okay, I'm getting the infamous There was an error while saving the standalone application message for just one specific stack. * I checked to ensure that the stack had a .rev extension, it does. * I tried saving to a new empty folder on my desktop. Nope. * I tried saving to my home directory. Still not working. * I tried other stacks, they worked fine. * I ran repair disk permissions and tried again, still no good. * I tried saving to a new empty folder at the root level of my hard drive. Same problem. Mac OS X 10.3.9 Any clues? I had the same problem earlier on when I had opened a MetaCard stack with resources (answer/ask stacks etc)included. I had to go back to MetaCard, remove the resources before being able to save the stack as a rev stack. Could this be the cause? -- Signe Marie Sanne 1. amanuensis/Senior lecturer Romansk institutt Tlf.+47 55 58 21 27 Øisteins gt. 1 Epost: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Universitetet i Bergen http://www.hf.uib.no/hfolk/mlab/Info/sms.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeM6x7aqtWrR9cZoRAuVNAJsH705q+fFYBLVk2SG/HLBQ2xxDVACfc8lB w67Di/A87GZ6bRi7LuUCUdU= =31S2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Error saving standalone -- revisited yet again
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I never use the single-byte , = or = versions in any of my scripts. I just checked the only other script I may have added from an outside source since this last worked, and they are clean. I tried suppress messages and save standalone, no good. I then made an exact copy of the stack (using the Finder), opened that copy in Rev, tried saving that as a standalone. Still not working. Next, I tried commenting out the savingStandalone, preOpenStack, openStack, closeStackRequest, shutdownRequest, and closeStack handlers in my mainstack, along with the preOpenCard and openCard handlers in the first card of that stack (I'm working with the copy). I then saved the stack, quit Rev, reopened the stack, turned on Supress Messages, and tried saving the standalone. Same unhelpful error. Needless to say, this is getting rather frustrating. The stack represents several months worth of work. There are 40 substacks, one of which has 42 cards (the mainstack has 8 cards). The mainstack's script got to be so long I broke it down by adding a backscript via a field on the first card (it is added by the preOpenStack script which I commeted out -- that's why I quit Rev before trying to build again). That backscript got to be so long I forked off a *second* backscript, so that there are now two backscripts: one with 838 lines, and one with 803 lines. The mainstack script still has 473 lines , and some of the cards on my mainstack have scripts with line counts like 889 and 807... some of the substacks have scripts of over 200 lines, and a few of their cards have scripts on the order of 100+ lines. And these are just the stacks and cards! Some of the controls also have scripts of several hundred lines each. Needless to say, I can't really afford to lose this stack. I have backup copies, but with this level of complexity, backing up even a step or two could be rather costly, and if the same problems occur... Okay, one more thing I thought to try: I have a number of externals I'm using, some of them are custom ones (that I built). Rev crashes every time I build a standalone from a stack using certain externals (after displaying the message that the standalone was successfully saved, or now this error), and this is one of those stacks. I tried setting the externals of the copy (the one with all of the handlers commented out) to empty, quitting Rev, and repeating the process. Rev thinks about it a little longer now, but still comes back to the same error message. At least this time it didn't crash afterwords ;-) The destination folder (the folder created during the save process) is still not created. On May 3, 2005, at 10:50 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Hi Frank, Here are a couple of other suggestions. 1) If you're using a Mac, make sure = is two characters not one. 2) Try commenting out all preOpenStack/preOpenCard openStack/openCard handlers and then build the standalone. If it works, then you can assume you're doing something in the handlers which is creating problems. Enable one at a time and locate the problem handler, then debug from there. Let us know what you find. best, Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeNUO7aqtWrR9cZoRAgsSAJ4iaTIN/UNPxIuh9vN3OmUtrIcGRgCgjokC j4SxZFX+djDVmdVFfwhNQjs= =L6sI -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drawing a straight line
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Which line/rectangle tools are you using? There are two of them: one for image objects (bitmaps; below the divider line), and those for graphic objects (vector shapes; above the divider line). On May 4, 2005, at 9:47 AM, Scott Slaugh wrote: I can't use the line tool (or rectangle tool for that matter) because they both seem to almost skip pixels. I'll try to drag a rectangle or draw a line over an area, and I can end the drawing either one pixel from the edge or one pixel over the edge. Scott Slaugh On 5/4/05, Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Why don't you just use the line tool? For bitmap line drawing, it's hidden in a submenu with the curve tool (just left of the pencil). On May 4, 2005, at 2:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, well, seems the good folks at RunRev haven't put all the HyperCard goodies in yet. Or there is another bugzilla pilling up dust ;) There's the resizeN2O plugin i wrote that could do this easily with a few tweaks. http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Downloadsd_op=getitlid=78 But it's unfinished, under-funded and no-one seemed interested. So i put i into the bottom of the pile... I'll put it in the coming week's todos and i might include it in GIM - my new Graphical Interface Manager cheers Xavier On 04.05.2005 06:09:33 use-revolution-bounces wrote: I have recently been converting some stacks from HyperCard into Revolution. In the process of putting the color back into the stacks, I have found that I need to be drawing straight lines with the pencil tool. However, as for as I know, there is no key that I can hold down such as shift to keep the line going straight, as I can in other drawing apps. Does anyone know of a way to quickly add this functionality to Revolution? Scott Slaugh ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeMyL7aqtWrR9cZoRApGGAJ9QlOjiWipM5qyzjASwWktG2uR76gCfV2ua IBQU34IlV89+YL4cZQWFUKo= =4EcZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com http://www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeNaH7aqtWrR9cZoRAiI+AJ4nPBgp04e3vbGebSpMcgetqWR1gQCbBmGF 1eC84h9UY2F7pY/1ztoxTsU= =QviH -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Update to 2.5 from 2.2????
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, technically they are two versions of the same program, and someone with only one or the other will want stacks created with the other one (the one they don't have) to be opened with what they do have, so it makes sense that they would both have the same code. What is truly troublesome is that so many of the standalones created from Rev have not changed the creator code. Thus double-clicking a stack icon can cause that stack to be opened in some oddball standalone app you downloaded from somewhere completely different! And btw, I see this problem on OS X as well. On May 4, 2005, at 6:08 AM, David Burgun wrote: Hi, Sorry I understand how the desktop associations work, I really was just wondering *why* DreamCard and Revolution have the *same* creator signature (Revo). According to Apple, each Application should have a unique signature. - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeNdj7aqtWrR9cZoRAj0KAJ0enEFuaRfWuclsogSzRySfpJ++rQCdEpnU SknZoF+MamXw8tnDcNiPMCc= =qQMh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New group disappears
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, that does seem to indicate that you worked around the problem awhile, which to Rev's mind seemingly reduces the urgency of the bug... Also, that was *only* posted this past November (6-7 months ago), compared to some of the other bugs out there... On May 4, 2005, at 12:02 PM, MisterX wrote: yes but it doesn't guarantee you will ever get a solution for it http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=2341 But there's always a kind soul to write a workaround ;) cheers Xav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Brown Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 17:50 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: New group disappears I was wondering if this is a Rev stability bug that is repeatable enough to make a BZ entry. Dennis On May 4, 2005, at 6:24 AM, David Burgun wrote: Hi, I either just rename the group and then remove/add objects, or I do this: Select the Group Ungroup them Save This seems to kill the Group DEAD! Regroup as Desired All the Best Dave On May 3, 2005, at 7:59 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Dennis- Tuesday, May 3, 2005, 2:43:41 PM, you wrote: DB I select a group of controls and fields. I ungroup them. I select a Why? If you're trying to edit the individual controls, use the unfortunately-named Select Grouped button instead. I was using one stack/card saved as, for a template for a new stack, and I was removing the groups but saving the controls to create new groups. DB What is going on? How do I get my missing controls back? Doesn't happen here, but guess is that you've got another pane on your card that they're disappearing behind. It is a simple one card stack, nothing to hide behind. Besides, the newly created group did not exist in the inspector, just the vanished controls. So the controls were invisible because they were part of a non-existent group that obviously could not be displayed. Control-click or right-click on them in the app browser, select the property inspector, then go the the Object menu and select Bring to Front. Thanks, I will try that next time it happens. Dennis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCePUI7aqtWrR9cZoRAmbVAJ91PeGZHe2KhAk+PkExEWQ5m2P7zQCcDZw7 e/ibYu7rIMzwKKbPE//C6HM= =xlQT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Publish and Subscribe iCal with RunRev
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is already a solved problem: http://www.k5n.us/webcalendar.php hth On May 4, 2005, at 12:29 PM, zack wrote: Hello everyone, I have a dream! I want my calendar displayed in Apple's iCal (or other vCal client) but I want the data stored in a database so I can integrate it into group and corporate databases systems. My thought was that I could use RunRev to create a little server that accepts iCal publish and subscribe requests, then parses the data and flings it into (or pulls it from) an ODBC database of my choice. Does anybody have any thoughts or ideas about this approach? I am pretty new to RunRev so any tips pointers or other ideas would be appreciated. What do you think? zack - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeP0/7aqtWrR9cZoRAirIAJ9jd+89gyprOFTiEtQCAcZ9izxUywCgiqnq wVK5Zx1/QY9gelIbFJVy+Pk= =cZK8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Another STANDALONE query, I'm afraid
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You technically don't need to. Just include the actual stack in the same folder as the stub stack, and the standalone stub stack should find and open it, just as in the IDE. If you really want to do this anyway, you need to make sure the real stack has no substacks of its own (only one layer deep allowed), then simply set its main stack (in the property inspector) to be the stub stack. Save the stub stack. Be weary of unhandled messages from the substack being obtained by the mainstack! On May 4, 2005, at 2:55 PM, John Ridge wrote: I now understand how to build a Standalone that saves data in a stack - first make a stub stack, and then create your real stack as a substack, and set the standalone options to treat it as a .rev file, so that the standalone user can save to it. My problem is that before I appreciated this, I had created a large stack as a mainstack. Now I want to make it a substack of a new stub stack. How do I do this? I hope it's a really simple question that I just can't see the answer to... -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeSmq7aqtWrR9cZoRAvaBAJ9crQclFmujD9CndphIxUxq+x6/aACfX61o kZ8EkRvr/NnoigJjlh+ksvA= =m4A1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: rev standalone for Windows
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It depends on how you set the externals property of the stack; try placing them (for example) in an externals folder in the same folder as the app, and if that doesn't work, try placing them in the same folder as the app itself. On May 3, 2005, at 4:02 AM, Stephen Barncard wrote: I have just built my first standalone for Windows. I've previously only tried to develop for Macs, but I thought I would give it a try. My standalone utilizes Trevor's libdatabase and revDB. I have a Wintel machine to test with but I'm not sure what to do with the dll files... I was hoping that everything would be built into the app.. Where do these dlls go? thanks, sqb ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCd4Uw7aqtWrR9cZoRAmHSAJ4uGhNZT3ajJikjYimWQ/aM08pA7gCfVvQU 4CHlUrPXlMAmHeB3Z9GtPP0= =Yexa -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Anyone using Tiger Yet?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I think it is rehashing the libraries to help the linker process app launches more quickly... Ah, yes: http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/maintainingmacosx.html Look under the header Update prebinding On May 3, 2005, at 4:52 AM, Chris Carroll-Davis wrote: *** embarrassed cough *** Thanks Pierre! Working fine now. I'd stupidly assumed that the upgrade would sort that sort of stuff out! OT question for techno gurus out there: when an installer says Optimising Disk... what is it actually doing? I'd assumed it was doing stuff like repairing permissions... Thanks again, Chris p.s. OT again, Photoshop CS2 tryout looks pretty good... On 3 May 2005, at 09:38, Pierre Sahores wrote: Le 3 mai 05, à 10:34, Chris Carroll-Davis a écrit : Hello all. Not seen any problems with Rev yet, but the driver for my wireless card is now broken and Photoshop won't open a dragged or double-clicked file. Did you test in checking and repairing the files permissions ? Other than that ok. Anyone else got any reports? Chris On 2 May 2005, at 06:34, Roger Guay wrote: Been using it for 2 days . . . no problems yet. And, I love it! On May 1, 2005, at 9:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 9 Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 08:24:50 -0500 From: Burrton Wodruff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Anyone using Tiger Yet? To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hi Folk, Anyone using Tiger with Rev yet? Any problems? Burt Woodruff RippleSoft ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores 100, rue de Paris F - 77140 Nemours [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GSM: +33 6 03 95 77 70 Pro: +33 1 64 45 05 33 Fax: +33 1 64 45 05 33 http://www.sahores-conseil.com/ WEB/VoD/ACID-DB services over IP Mutualiser les deltas de productivité ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCd4ht7aqtWrR9cZoRAnGCAJ9xLoLEYblU07qQ0U8onc2SWlDyzwCfess7 0jKBeDEDUgGoBB4rVdipfUw= =2saC -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution and Education... website proposed
perspective on the issue. This got me thinking... why not try something similar with the nice people from the revolution community, this time on the use of revolution for student-centered learning? It happens that I recently created a website, that I use in a research context. I could easily create a revolution subdomain to host a revolution-education resource center with : (1) an archive of stacks relevant to education ( I can provide up to 200MB), (2) a forum or even better, a wiki for the discussion of ideas and guidelines (I have recently set-up a wiki to support one of my course and it wouldn't be difficult to set-up another one for discussion on the them of revolution-education). I really believe that Wikis are better than forums to organize thoughts. Who knows, this could lead to a book Instructional Design with Revolution... with the word order that suggests that reaching teaching goals and the provision of well-thought exercises would be more important than technical aspects (though, both could probably be reconciled with a section on teaching (to teachers) programming with revolution). After all, the reluctance of colleagues to be involved in e-Learning does not come from the fact that they do not care about the quality of their teaching. It rather has for origin the lack of resource printed or digital resource that would let them realize something useful without having to spend too much time acquiring new skills. If we want to encourage our colleagues to adopt better practices, maybe we need to be concerned about creating resources that facilitate their efforts. In fact, I already gave it a start: http://revolution.lexicall.org/ You will find there a list of links and information related to eLearning (http://revolution.lexicall.org/eLearning/) as well as a listing of the stacks I have already produced (under a share alike license), at http://revolution.lexicall.org/listing.php. I will add a wiki next week-end. Educators and non educators alike may be interested to know that this listing is automatically produced thanks to the provision of a text file joined to the revolution file, with the following metadata. resource_description nameRSS reader/name descriptionStill another exploration of widgets. Simple RSS reader./description authorMarielle Lange/author author_contact_detailsN/A/author_contact_details licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0//license url_imagemystacks/rss_reader.gif/url_image url_informationN/A/url_information url_downloadhttp://revolution.lexicall.org/mystacks/rss_reader.rev/ url_download /resource_description This means that information about the file is separate from the file itself... It is possible to create a directory that lists stacks hosted in the archive as well as stacks hosted elsewhere. I can give away the php script to anybody interested (written so to understand any metadata, organized in any number of sections (details at: http://lexicall.org/repository/standards.php, when used in another context). Let me know if you are interested in taking advantage of any of this... but please, be patient, my day job does not involve programming with revolution, I may take a few days (i.e., next week-end) to answer your emails. Best, Marielle --- Marielle Lange (PhD), Psycholinguistics, Lecturer in Psychology and Informatics University of Edinburgh, UK Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mlange/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCd4nZ7aqtWrR9cZoRAiQTAJwK8fVqdUo819SrtiIKP8+OKmx2lQCdEevv UPFlfqeZDfTUXQh4FGqKZaI= =XWk1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT Anyone using Tiger Yet?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Prebinding has nothing to do with runtime performance of the computer. It only affects startup time of applications. Additionally, there is no need to reboot after doing it, and the only time it should even make a difference to do manual prebinding under 10.2 and later is when you are installing apps that you wrote yourself. Even then, it only affects how long it takes an app to launch, and not how quickly it runs after it gets started. On May 3, 2005, at 9:45 AM, Terry Vogelaar wrote: Chris Carroll-Davis heeft op dinsdag, 3 mei 2005 om 15:22 (Europe/Amsterdam) het volgende geschreven: OT question for techno gurus out there: when an installer says Optimising Disk... what is it actually doing? I'd assumed it was doing stuff like repairing permissions... Optimising Disk means Updating the Prebinding. Not that I am a techno guru. I recently saw it on http://www.macdevcenter.com/lpt/a/4400 or http://www.macdevcenter.com/lpt/a/5825 Sometimes, for some (apparently) inexplicable reason, your computer slows down to a crawl after you have installed a big application. In that case, you may want to update the prebinding. This means forcing Mac OS X to go through all of the application files and make sure that they are correctly linked together. The Mac OS X default installer usually takes care of this by itself, but some third-party installers may be less cautious. You can do that manually too. To do this, simply open your Terminal and type: sudo update_prebinding -root / -force Then, enter return, type your password, and enter return again. Don't worry about the lines of text that will scroll on your Terminal. This simply means that the command is doing its work. The whole process should only take a few minutes. However, it will considerably slow your computer down and for maximum efficiency, you should not use it at the same time. Once the command has exited, immediately reboot your computer. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCd4q77aqtWrR9cZoRAovjAJ0Rgc8LsEK+e0fsi7jTc9Pf/W7fTwCfVNv4 AAklNmmxJo34AaCJUPEWZz4= =3QlL -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Error saving standalone -- revisited yet again
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Okay, I'm getting the infamous There was an error while saving the standalone application message for just one specific stack. * I checked to ensure that the stack had a .rev extension, it does. * I tried saving to a new empty folder on my desktop. Nope. * I tried saving to my home directory. Still not working. * I tried other stacks, they worked fine. * I ran repair disk permissions and tried again, still no good. * I tried saving to a new empty folder at the root level of my hard drive. Same problem. Mac OS X 10.3.9 Any clues? - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCd5Vn7aqtWrR9cZoRAilGAJ9X5svFMlaB8oTdaMSvXID6EUJQRwCfSIYu VdCyprWZxgsPV/gQ5+WUAPQ= =1wUD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT : PearPC
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I suspect the argument is that Apple-labeled means Labeled by Apple, not Labeled with an Apple Although, conspicuously, a definitive definition does seem to be lacking from the license... On May 3, 2005, at 11:20 AM, MisterX wrote: So if i stick the Apple Label from my old 128K, on my PC I can run it! Those guys should think differently! ;)) VNC does a great job too! With cheap 500$ HW... Why bother with a 240MHz G3 (info pulled of the web)? Time is money! ;) Cheers Xav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank D. Engel, Jr. Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 15:07 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: OT : PearPC -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Right, the key phrase being Apple-labeled computer. On Apr 30, 2005, at 3:26 PM, Dar Scott wrote: On Apr 30, 2005, at 8:55 AM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote: If you read the license agreement for OS X, there is a clause which states that it cannot legally be installed on non-apple hardware. My Panther license says this: 2.A This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time. This License does not allow the Apple Software to exist on more than one computer at a time [...] Dar -- ** DSC (Dar Scott Consulting Dar's Lab) http://www.swcp.com/dsc/ A Sponsor of RevCon West ** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCdiX37aqtWrR9cZoRAmY4AJ43lIxqILhSIoGSXjSXq/+Co35g+gCeOP9a WoXP193ApSxFbvpmn1t7ri0= =zieJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCd5jX7aqtWrR9cZoRArbiAKCLnL6xLgzORQmV8Sc4lc+on1gt8ACbBMY4 fEiHxZ3oQugfkpn03rb0DF0= =MLRT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Error saving standalone -- revisited yet again
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There are no non-ASCII characters in the filename. The standalone app settings are definitely set to allow me to specify the inclusions myself rather than having them searched for. I am building for both OS X and Windows; no Classic Mac or UNIX/Linux builds. There is only a single main stack in the entire app, everything else is a substack of that stack. On May 3, 2005, at 3:08 PM, Varen Swaab wrote: Frank, I'm a very new user and I'm not sure my help would be that valuable but I've struggled with the identical problem and here's what I discovered... - Someone, somewhere suggested to change the preferences in the Standalone Application Settings to NOT search for required inclusions when saving, select your own appropriate libraries instead. Once I did this 90% of my problem went away. - The other 10% would happen when I didn't have my stacks properly nested and had transcript code pointing to stacks that were supposed to be substacks but, for whatever reason, I made them into mainstacks instead. Once I either corrected the hierarchy of stacks, or fixed the transcript the standalone error went away. Hope this helps. Var On 5/3/05 8:14 AM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I'm getting the infamous There was an error while saving the standalone application message for just one specific stack. * I checked to ensure that the stack had a .rev extension, it does. * I tried saving to a new empty folder on my desktop. Nope. * I tried saving to my home directory. Still not working. * I tried other stacks, they worked fine. * I ran repair disk permissions and tried again, still no good. * I tried saving to a new empty folder at the root level of my hard drive. Same problem. Mac OS X 10.3.9 Any clues? - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCd97O7aqtWrR9cZoRAhUmAJ9KFYjkDnBz1seSXYddgthGMx6SPACeIiia B7/pC2WG+k0L8bv8UkwtmAA= =Fvnt -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Error saving standalone -- revisited yet again
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Okay, just tried that. Same problem. On May 3, 2005, at 5:05 PM, Varen Swaab wrote: Frank, Have you tried to enable *all* of the libraries, even the ones you're sure you don't need... that's what I'd do Var On 5/3/05 1:27 PM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There are no non-ASCII characters in the filename. The standalone app settings are definitely set to allow me to specify the inclusions myself rather than having them searched for. I am building for both OS X and Windows; no Classic Mac or UNIX/Linux builds. There is only a single main stack in the entire app, everything else is a substack of that stack. On May 3, 2005, at 3:08 PM, Varen Swaab wrote: Frank, I'm a very new user and I'm not sure my help would be that valuable but I've struggled with the identical problem and here's what I discovered... - Someone, somewhere suggested to change the preferences in the Standalone Application Settings to NOT search for required inclusions when saving, select your own appropriate libraries instead. Once I did this 90% of my problem went away. - The other 10% would happen when I didn't have my stacks properly nested and had transcript code pointing to stacks that were supposed to be substacks but, for whatever reason, I made them into mainstacks instead. Once I either corrected the hierarchy of stacks, or fixed the transcript the standalone error went away. Hope this helps. Var On 5/3/05 8:14 AM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I'm getting the infamous There was an error while saving the standalone application message for just one specific stack. * I checked to ensure that the stack had a .rev extension, it does. * I tried saving to a new empty folder on my desktop. Nope. * I tried saving to my home directory. Still not working. * I tried other stacks, they worked fine. * I ran repair disk permissions and tried again, still no good. * I tried saving to a new empty folder at the root level of my hard drive. Same problem. Mac OS X 10.3.9 Any clues? - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCd97O7aqtWrR9cZoRAhUmAJ9KFYjkDnBz1seSXYddgthGMx6SPACeIiia B7/pC2WG+k0L8bv8UkwtmAA= =Fvnt -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Varen Swaab ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCd+lj7aqtWrR9cZoRAlWjAJ0ZdIco4wh5GLFrtLQRJ4YAyQ1fAACfVALX f9j0iBZoXL+Zxhw1qmrAB+s= =1uS9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Error saving standalone -- revisited yet again
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Both are already covered ;-) On May 3, 2005, at 6:10 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: I would add only 2 things to your list, which I expect you have done, but just to have a complete list in the archives: * don't use any weird characters in file, folder or app names * specify inclusions instead of asking Rev to search Sarah On 4 May 2005, at 1:15 AM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Okay, I'm getting the infamous There was an error while saving the standalone application message for just one specific stack. * I checked to ensure that the stack had a .rev extension, it does. * I tried saving to a new empty folder on my desktop. Nope. * I tried saving to my home directory. Still not working. * I tried other stacks, they worked fine. * I ran repair disk permissions and tried again, still no good. * I tried saving to a new empty folder at the root level of my hard drive. Same problem. Mac OS X 10.3.9 Any clues? - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCd5Vn7aqtWrR9cZoRAilGAJ9X5svFMlaB8oTdaMSvXID6EUJQRwCfSIYu VdCyprWZxgsPV/gQ5+WUAPQ= =1wUD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeBHI7aqtWrR9cZoRAhAaAJ9e0oHqNyxQ0O8fl7mrHSBFCtHV1wCfT1bS anZxCCTgshvWtyiUqSVC390= =2OEp -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Error saving standalone -- revisited yet again
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have several other stacks already which are working fine. It's the biggest, most important one which is causing all the problems. Just this one specific stack. Doing one at a time sounds good, didn't try that yet. I'll try that first thing tomorrow morning. On May 3, 2005, at 6:33 PM, Varen Swaab wrote: Frank, Also, have you tried to create an entirely new mainstack, add a button or two and save that as a standalone? It'd be interesting to see if that works.. One other thought is to disable saving to either/or the Mac and Windows flavors, just do one at a time. Var On 5/3/05 3:10 PM, Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would add only 2 things to your list, which I expect you have done, but just to have a complete list in the archives: * don't use any weird characters in file, folder or app names * specify inclusions instead of asking Rev to search Sarah On 4 May 2005, at 1:15 AM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Okay, I'm getting the infamous There was an error while saving the standalone application message for just one specific stack. * I checked to ensure that the stack had a .rev extension, it does. * I tried saving to a new empty folder on my desktop. Nope. * I tried saving to my home directory. Still not working. * I tried other stacks, they worked fine. * I ran repair disk permissions and tried again, still no good. * I tried saving to a new empty folder at the root level of my hard drive. Same problem. Mac OS X 10.3.9 Any clues? - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCd5Vn7aqtWrR9cZoRAilGAJ9X5svFMlaB8oTdaMSvXID6EUJQRwCfSIYu VdCyprWZxgsPV/gQ5+WUAPQ= =1wUD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Varen Swaab ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeBIR7aqtWrR9cZoRAi6mAJ4w75xvQ7fiwRhwu6XMxVV+syiZOgCaA14+ +v521rKvtkd2BgEuf0hZIfg= =CI9i -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Error saving standalone -- revisited yet again
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The passwords are added to the final stack by Standalone Builder. My source stacks are not password protected. This worked fine until recently. I think the last time I built this stack as a standalone was under 10.3.8, and I've just upgraded to 10.3.9 recently. I wonder if that might be related? On May 3, 2005, at 7:38 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 5/3/05 3:27 PM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There are no non-ASCII characters in the filename. The standalone app settings are definitely set to allow me to specify the inclusions myself rather than having them searched for. I am building for both OS X and Windows; no Classic Mac or UNIX/Linux builds. There is only a single main stack in the entire app, everything else is a substack of that stack. One more thing I just thought of: you can't build a password-protected stack. Is this one passworded? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeBJj7aqtWrR9cZoRAm7TAJ9A9LkfNKsee8b/hZblDfmUKwmnzACdHmsC 8jA5F82X6y4lqfhE4PjvuQk= =hSsv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Error saving standalone -- revisited yet again
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Okay, so I did try it tonight... Either way (OS X only or Win32 only) still gives the error. On May 3, 2005, at 8:06 PM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have several other stacks already which are working fine. It's the biggest, most important one which is causing all the problems. Just this one specific stack. Doing one at a time sounds good, didn't try that yet. I'll try that first thing tomorrow morning. On May 3, 2005, at 6:33 PM, Varen Swaab wrote: Frank, Also, have you tried to create an entirely new mainstack, add a button or two and save that as a standalone? It'd be interesting to see if that works.. One other thought is to disable saving to either/or the Mac and Windows flavors, just do one at a time. Var On 5/3/05 3:10 PM, Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would add only 2 things to your list, which I expect you have done, but just to have a complete list in the archives: * don't use any weird characters in file, folder or app names * specify inclusions instead of asking Rev to search Sarah On 4 May 2005, at 1:15 AM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Okay, I'm getting the infamous There was an error while saving the standalone application message for just one specific stack. * I checked to ensure that the stack had a .rev extension, it does. * I tried saving to a new empty folder on my desktop. Nope. * I tried saving to my home directory. Still not working. * I tried other stacks, they worked fine. * I ran repair disk permissions and tried again, still no good. * I tried saving to a new empty folder at the root level of my hard drive. Same problem. Mac OS X 10.3.9 Any clues? - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCd5Vn7aqtWrR9cZoRAilGAJ9X5svFMlaB8oTdaMSvXID6EUJQRwCfSIYu VdCyprWZxgsPV/gQ5+WUAPQ= =1wUD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Varen Swaab ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeBIR7aqtWrR9cZoRAi6mAJ4w75xvQ7fiwRhwu6XMxVV+syiZOgCaA14+ +v521rKvtkd2BgEuf0hZIfg= =CI9i -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeBQh7aqtWrR9cZoRAkTqAKCLWRY5A6vuZRyvRN3qAvEXWxc6XQCdHs/y SfQygb1aN0gWqWYAjOYoAT4= =3dno -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT : PearPC
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Right, the key phrase being Apple-labeled computer. On Apr 30, 2005, at 3:26 PM, Dar Scott wrote: On Apr 30, 2005, at 8:55 AM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote: If you read the license agreement for OS X, there is a clause which states that it cannot legally be installed on non-apple hardware. My Panther license says this: 2.A This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time. This License does not allow the Apple Software to exist on more than one computer at a time [...] Dar -- ** DSC (Dar Scott Consulting Dar's Lab) http://www.swcp.com/dsc/ A Sponsor of RevCon West ** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCdiX37aqtWrR9cZoRAmY4AJ43lIxqILhSIoGSXjSXq/+Co35g+gCeOP9a WoXP193ApSxFbvpmn1t7ri0= =zieJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to start Rev by shell or startup item in the background under Mac OS X
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Theoretically, you could use the rc scripts in the /etc directory to start your app; however, there is an issue with this, where upgrades to the OS can and sometimes do replace these files without asking for permission. These files are the 'normal' way to do it with most *NIX platforms, but Apple warns you *not* to use them for OS X. The correct way to do this with Mac OS X is to place things in /Library/StartupItems. For more details on how to write StartupItems, see this page: http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2003/10/21/startup.html StartupItems are launched after the GUI is started, but before the login window appears (or the user is logged in automatically, if the machine is insecurely configured to not display a login window). They are indeed run as root, and are not supposed to be graphical in nature (they should be faceless background processes -- what UNIX calls daemons and Windows calls services... On May 2, 2005, at 7:04 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: Thanks Ken and Brian for the help :-) Unfortunaly, this don't feet the need to be able to start the process in root protected mode with access to a socket port 1024. In more detailled words, is it a way to start a rev application from the Darwin shell console even if none of Cocoa nor XWindows are launched (darwin single user console mode start up) ? Best, Pierre Le 2 mai 05, à 23:13, Brian Yennie a écrit : Pierre, If you just want to launch an ordinary MacOSX Rev standalone on startup, you can put it in: /System/Library/StartupItems/ You could also put an AppleScript in here to perform all sorts of actions. Along with Ken's tip, you could hide the GUI and make it a background process- although sometimes it is actually nice to have an admin interface visible. HTH, - Brian Hello to All, I use Rev as a deamon server (alike Apache, PostgreSQL and so on - not just as a CGI engine) under the linux platform in starting stack's instances in the Init System V way. I would be interested to know if anyone can say if it is possible to get the same result under the Mac OS X platform and if yes, how to set up Rev to be able to start it as a deamon application (witch engine and librairies, how to build the start-up adequate component) ? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Best Regards, -- Pierre Sahores 100, rue de Paris F - 77140 Nemours [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GSM: +33 6 03 95 77 70 Pro: +33 1 64 45 05 33 Fax: +33 1 64 45 05 33 http://www.sahores-conseil.com/ WEB/VoD/ACID-DB services over IP Mutualiser les deltas de productivité ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCdrY27aqtWrR9cZoRAstTAJ9ZsR5IPKBbYzKlNmQVr2/tVnjeswCdG5FZ mxEo9LoBtuDXzm8uDNrXYeM= =RArI -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: To Rev or not to Rev
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hmm... well, first of all, a scripting language *is* a real programming language. Just because a language isn't compiled doesn't mean it isn't real. In fact, every language is interpreted; even compiled languages are simply translated into machine language, which is interpreted by the computer's processor. It's just a matter of whether the language is interpreted by hardware, or by software. Second, I for one have a Masters degree in Computer Science, and would not have made a fraction of the progress I have on the project I am doing right now if I were using something other than Rev -- one of those so-called real programming languages. As for an object-oriented programming language, no Rev is *not* an object-oriented programming language, at least not in the traditional sense. For example, in Rev, let's say we want to change the label of the button; we do this with a command like: set the label of button My Button to Hello In other words, we are giving an instruction to Rev, such that our script code changes the button's label. In more traditional OOP, we instead send a message to the button, asking it to change its own label; something more like (pseudo-code, not necessarily in any real programming language): tell button My Button to set its label to Hello At first the distinction may seem quite subtle, and you may not recognize the benefits to this, but consider that I want to create a new type of button with certain characteristics, one of which is that the label of the button always begin with a digit. I can enforce this by having the button reject an attempt to set its label to anything other than a string starting with a digit (again with the pseudo-code): when asked to set my label to x if char 1 of x is a number then set the label of me to x else throw Invalid Label end if end when asked to set my label Note that the prior code would still work the same way, and would not need to know what kind of button it was dealing with (of course, it would have an exception raised with this kind of button, since Hello does not start with a digit...) We can't currently do this with Rev. On Apr 30, 2005, at 9:06 AM, Jim Carwardine wrote: I know there has been lots of discussion on this topic since I joined the list and I know many Rev'ers on this list have converted to Rev as their dev language of first choice. I'm having a continuing conversation with my provider about using his sever to serve my Rev app. First was he highly recommended MSSQL, which the list took exception to. Then I suggested he take a look at RunRev as a development tool himself (hoping to get some local expertise using Rev on a server) and here was his reply... it is more of scripting language that a real programming language which is awesome for the non-technical developers like me and you, but is not a true object oriented application language which is being taught in universities. I don't know what to say about that. Are there are x-talk/OOP languages that are compiled, or, a difference between an OOP and an x-talk language, or, maybe he just assumed that Rev is not a true OOP on first glance? ... Jim on 4/26/05 10:30 AM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It's one of the few databases I'd consider inferior to MySql, not because it lacks cross-platform compatibility, but because it is a Microsoft product ;-) Realistically, any of the major database servers will have advantages and disadvantages compared to the others. I personally like PostgreSQL: it is free for both noncommercial *and* commercial use (unlike MySql, which is only free for non-commercial use), it is reasonably fast and quite powerful, fully ACID-compliant, supports stored procedures, views, and so forth, has a sizable user community, etc. And it runs just fine on my OS X box, along with Windows, Linux, and a variety of other platforms. On Apr 26, 2005, at 8:49 AM, Jim Carwardine wrote: What about the differences between MySQL and MSSQL. The proponents of MSSQL are adamant that it is far better. Is it really? Of course, it's not x-platform, which is a mark against it in my books... Jim on 4/25/05 3:58 PM, Bill wrote: Yes I agree that SQL is the way to go. I can't wait until the MySQL to SQLite utility is released so that I can try SQLite. I think it will be faster at connecting. On 4/25/05 2:17 PM, Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else thinking along these lines? ||| )_) )_) )_) )___))___))___)\ )))_)\\ _|||\\\__ ---\ /- http://www.bluewatermaritime.com ^ ^ ^^^^^ ^^^ 24 hour cell: (787) 378-6190 fax: (787) 809-8426 Blue Water Maritime P.O. Box 91 Puerto Real, PR 00740 ___ use-revolution mailing
Re: To Rev or not to Rev
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 30, 2005, at 10:31 AM, Derek Bump wrote: On top of that, so what if it's not taught in Universities! A statement like that is just like one from those people out there that say Oh, it's NOT from Microsoft...well then it MUST be bad! I do the opposite: Oh, it's a Microsoft product, so it MUST be bad! And one more thing. What programming language is not object oriented? Everything is an object. Pixels, fields, buttons, windows, cursors, icons, text, variables, arrays, and so on and so on. Revolution is object oriented, just like C++, Java, JavaScript, Basic and even HTML. No, OOP is a somewhat specific paradigm for computer programming, and includes certain characteristics which are *not* present in Rev. Yes, many things are viewed as objects, and Rev even refers to things as objects (well, they are, actually), but this does not make Rev an object-oriented programming language. We cannot define custom object classes, for example. Before someone goes and says, but we have inheritance -- the group intercepts messages not received by objects in the group, the card receives from the group, etc. -- there is a certain level of inheritance in place, and Rev does have many characteristics of an object-oriented language. But I for one would not pretend to call it an actual object-oriented language until we can define our own classes, subclass those classes *and* the built-in classes (such as button, field, group, card, stack...), and so on. There needs to be a degree of scripter-defined polymorphism present, as well. Note that others may disagree with me here, there are a number of conflicting opinions on what it takes to be an object-oriented language, but to my mind, you need unbounded subclassing capabilities and polymorphism in order to be object-oriented. Rev does not allow us to do these things right now. That doesn't mean that Transcript is a bad programming language; I think it is quite good for solving a large number of problems. It simply means that it is not an object-oriented programming language. Any more than it is a functional language, btw: Transcript is a procedural language with some object-oriented characteristics mixed in. A true functional language has no messages, procedure-equivalents, etc. LISP is an example of a functional language. In a functional language, the entire program is just one huge function call. A quick Google search reveals this, which may be helpful as far as classification of languages: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?NygaardClassification But, if I'm wrong in any of these areas then maybe someone here can set me straight? I think I just did ;-) One more thing: HTML is *not* a programming language in any sense whatsoever. HTML has no constructs for repetition. HTML is a document markup language (which is what it stands for -- hyper-text MARKUP language) designed for embellishing statically-formatted documents. Things were added later which allow for some degree of interactivity (such as forms, etc.), but the actual processing is handled by another programming language (such as PHP, Perl, or Rev), *not* by HTML. OTOH, PostScript is a real programming language, a point which a lot of people seem to miss... - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCc5tb7aqtWrR9cZoRAhMuAJ995w0q4xHB7VQ83mmpLV/EOLME6gCeKmCn of9Tsm5e5caKi6gDoSWV0So= =Eq+/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT : PearPC
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If you read the license agreement for OS X, there is a clause which states that it cannot legally be installed on non-apple hardware. You could use that to run Linux, I'm sure, but you can't legally install OS X on that emulator (or any other, for that matter). On Apr 30, 2005, at 10:54 AM, jbv wrote: Has anyone seen / used this : http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/about.html http://prasys.skidsoftware.com/intro.htm just curious... JB ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCc5xS7aqtWrR9cZoRAn2XAJ479ZqaVR2oO0dcwIUEy1xp/iR++wCdGi64 RtVM2vunoUNx8st5lsd9PJE= =qLvs -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: convert it to seconds Philosophy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 30, 2005, at 1:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Heather, It's nice to know someone IS listening. The response I was hoping for was something like this: Yes, Mr. Looney, we are aware of this date/time problem from all of the other posts on the discussion group and bugzilla. We, too consider it serious and have dispatched the resources to fix it promptly. Estimated completion is tentatively scheduled for 7:13 pm GMT on May 17th of this year. We'd like to thank you, and all of the other people who brought this to our attention. We are committed to making Rev the best X-talk RAD in the history of civilized mankind. Thank you, again. Heather OK, that was probably too much to hope for... ;-) Yep. I agree, in general, that bugzilla is the place for bugs. I only two problems with the bugzilla approach: 1. It seems to have turned into a celestial black hole, where things go in but do not come out. Don't misunderstand, the upgrades from Version 1 to 2, and 2 to 2.5 were very helpful. But there are critical items (like reliable dates) that have not been addressed in all of these versions over all of these years. True for other bugs as well. There are *lots* of 'em in there. 2. A lot of bugs do not get the votes they should. The date/time problem is a good example: people can write, test, and sell programs with date/time math that appear to work properly - until daylight savings time changes. They won't vote because they don't know they have a (serious) problem. Another non-voting group is the newbies who try Rev. and, before they can be impressed with the vast capacity, easy access, awesome speed, etc., they're gone forever because of their experience with the tables, menus, documentation, etc. - and, of course, they don't vote. Bugzilla is geared toward assisting the veteran Rev. programmer - not making Rev. more marketable to (the vital) new users. Many times on the list new users have observed the Rev. seems to be a beta product rather than a shipping program. I can see why they say this, there are design and usability issues beyond what one would expect when moving to a new programming environment. These do not get put into bugzilla because we veterans have learned to work around them. Some of us take a perverse pride in knowing obscure, undocumented, non-intuitive workarounds, mentioned on the list 8 to 10 months ago. None of these receive votes but they limit sales. And sales of Rev. are important to all users of Rev. If there was an interest, I could list the top ten items I believe are costing Rev. customers, items that may not have many bugzilla votes. Is there an interest? I'm sure I could list a bunch of my own too, that's not the point. And BZ was not meant for veteran Rev programmers either, it was meant to help us report problems to Rev as we find them, and to make feature requests. If you are looking to benefit the programmers, that would be the purpose of this list, correct? And last, philosophy. I usually disagree with everything Richmond posts. I certainly do not see any long-term benefit from open sourcing Rev. I do like the idea of a free introductory product. But, beyond that, I like the idea and I see a benefit, and right here in this posting, too!! All these bugs everyone is complaining about would have a whole lot more people waiting to *fix* them, rather than just report them to an already far-too-busy support team! the experience of open discussion enjoyed on this list. We tend to learn more from those we disagree with anyway. As long as discussions are conducted with civility, propriety, and decorum please let them continue (under the watchful eyes of the ever-supportive listmom). That would be the general idea. - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCc8LP7aqtWrR9cZoRAqwxAJ4wd+jBvB+4wtTFSLy609KQlESwlACeKl8O GnWjds1EyshuXuPDB0pILCg= =c3bm -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making Revolution faster with really big arrays
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Did my earlier reply even make it through? I'm not seeing it on the list. Transcript is actually faster than what I was able to come up with for PostgreSQL -- much faster, in fact. Ada is WAY faster than either one of them -- a fraction of a second for this test. On Apr 29, 2005, at 8:20 AM, Dennis Brown wrote: Read the earlier versions of this thread for the fast methods. This example is just for a specific test between Transcript and PostgreSQL Dennis On Apr 29, 2005, at 6:24 AM, Wouter wrote: On 28 Apr 2005, at 17:59, Dennis Brown wrote: Frank, This is a simplified algorithm that I think would best translate directly between Transcript and PostgreSQL for a time trial. Just make sure the PostgreSQL code is an item by item algorithm also. Thanks, Dennis Transcript output on my machine: 1,000,000 Element Sum = 50050 Elapsed Time = 11.467659 seconds. on mouseUp global gTestArray if number of lines of the keys of gTestArray is not 100 then --already done the init put empty into gTestArray --start with an empty a variable repeat with x = 1 to 1000 repeat with y = 1 to 1000 put x into gTestArray[x,y] end repeat end repeat end if -- put the long seconds into st Method6 get the long seconds put Elapsed Time =(it - st)seconds. after msg end mouseUp on Method6 -- Add elements using keyed arrays global gTestArray put 0 into total repeat with x = 1 to 1000 repeat with y = 1 to 1000 add gTestArray[x,y] to total end repeat end repeat put 1,000,000 Element Sum = total end Method6 -- Hi again with a little addition, The initialization of the test array takes about 36 seconds. Following version does the same in much shorter time: on mouseUp put the long seconds into zap --if number of lines of the keys of gTestArray is not 100 then --already done the init put empty into gTestArray --start with an empty a variable repeat with i = 1 to 1000 put icomma after x end repeat repeat 1000 put x after gTestArray end repeat split gTestArray by comma put the long seconds - zap --end if put the long seconds into st Method6 get the long seconds put Elapsed Time =(it - st)seconds. after msg end mouseUp In this case the initialization takes about 10 seconds on the slowbook ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCcjbd7aqtWrR9cZoRAsWFAJ90AUksikgIFvNGJO7LAjozvn1aPgCeJ8+E yOYp6RJFKwtMPJttHbmw4ws= =PjBb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: MySQL connection accepted
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The command you need to look at is revOpenDatabase; you can find that in the docs. If that function returns an integer, it is the handle number of the opened connection. Otherwise, it is an error message explaining why the connection failed. So you need something like this: global dbconn function amIConnected put revOpenDatabase(mysql, field Hostname, field Database Name, field Username, field Password, the hilite of button Use SSL) into dbconn if dbconn is an integer then return Connected else return No Connection end if end if (note: button Use SSL is a checkbox here) Don't forget to close the connection when you are finished with it: revCloseDatabase dbconn On Apr 29, 2005, at 3:47 PM, Paul Salyers wrote: Dear Rev Programmers I need a simple small stack that will try and connect to a MySQL db on a server shell. If it connects ok I want a message that says Connected else No Connection Anyone have such a stack. I don't know how to do this but I would think there should be 3 test boxes: URL, db login, db password Can some1 help Paul Salyers PS1 - Senior Rep. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http://ps1.SoftSeven.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCcpJm7aqtWrR9cZoRAnAsAJ9FBLP/W0F7ZGNBg1pBoJQgFcU4fwCfdaD8 6Mypu8CVyxh4f7uN/CRkMTw= =p2lo -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Variable question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 27, 2005, at 8:48 PM, Brian Yennie wrote: Is it OK to ask if item 1 is not among the lines of lSeq even though this is the first instance of lSeq? It should be, yes. It will just be FALSE, since lSeq is empty. No, if this is the first instance of lSeq, then lSeq will contain the value lSeq. - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCcOyG7aqtWrR9cZoRAjUSAKCIBrnP/q7RkZCggCSu2kTwf7hUFwCff8UC GBepxm66joetiaH0/oZrdHw= =PPFc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode Displaying in Runtime Revolution #2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The only thing I can think of with regard to using ODBC is that this may be a limitation of the ODBC driver? You should check any settings the driver provides to see if there is something in there which may affect this, and you should check the docs of the driver to see if there is a limitation of some kind. On Apr 27, 2005, at 11:20 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote: On Apr 25, 2005, at 1:20 AM, Marisa K. wrote: Hello Trevor, Thank you so much for your reply. I had tried on your suggestion(using cursors) but it didn't work with me, still. While, English texts can be displayed just fine, Thai's texts cannot. Well, I connect to the database through ODBC. Do you think this is where the problem is? Every suggestions are welcome as I'm willing to try. I haven't used ODBC much so I'm not sure if that could cause the problem or not. What database are you using? Can you try connecting directly to it and seeing if that solves the problem? -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCcO2D7aqtWrR9cZoRAuqhAJsEcrAyO9lX8NOVFsVYLz8eVanLAACfRhNW MzJAEB1e3oQmKWu1e6BFciE= =rEIF -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making Revolution faster with really big arrays
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I haven't actually tried it with this type of algorithm, so I really don't know, and I've already deleted the eMail with the sample code; you'd need to send that code out again for me to even try testing it for you. The docs for pl/pgsql are part of the standard PostgreSQL docs on their web site. On Apr 28, 2005, at 7:55 AM, Dennis Brown wrote: Frank, That sounds interesting. How fast can PostgreSQL generate the simple example I showed using an item by item algorithm? Will it really execute faster than Transcript? Dennis On Apr 27, 2005, at 6:39 PM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Try PostgreSQL, which offers stored procedures. You could write the complex parts of the algorithms in pl/pgsql, if nothing else -- or pl/perl, or pl/python, or whatever. On Apr 27, 2005, at 12:07 PM, Dennis Brown wrote: Stephen, The math I want to do is not regular --as in the simple example, but very algorithmic on a item by item basis. The overhead of passing the data to and from MySQL will kill the speed unless it can do all the algorithms internally. Previous attempts have shown this. Dennis On Apr 26, 2005, at 9:06 PM, Stephen Barncard wrote: MySQL can do math on columns like you want. Very Fast. No loops in transcript. Check out the GROUP BY (Aggregate) Functions. http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/group-by-functions.html At 8:06 PM -0400 4/26/05, Dennis Brown wrote: Can anyone think of another way to do this that would be faster (for accessing parallel arrays, not the trivial adding them together operation I am doing here). Of course the times are for my machine and will vary on yours, but the ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCcBSo7aqtWrR9cZoRAqPNAJwNlnoWWFlDlFUkH8iN5flftEyl+wCggQXb nYgvMmE+WiguK14yohNJ/W4= =ywu1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCcPCh7aqtWrR9cZoRArEPAJwPHbNQwyQrB9tjgYafbgBNJGgD0ACfZtJ5 insu3ilsQFOP1YzigsGenJw= =7UAW -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: text editors? (was Re: click-words)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Off-Topic On Apr 27, 2005, at 4:02 AM, Eric Chatonet wrote: PS. What OT means? - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCb5Nj7aqtWrR9cZoRAkbxAJ9CakIbDNRtEHj2vMee3CRIMramBgCfVUUd YgSD1WXM/DBxxx2aNvI13/E= =oq2I -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making Revolution faster with really big arrays
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Try PostgreSQL, which offers stored procedures. You could write the complex parts of the algorithms in pl/pgsql, if nothing else -- or pl/perl, or pl/python, or whatever. On Apr 27, 2005, at 12:07 PM, Dennis Brown wrote: Stephen, The math I want to do is not regular --as in the simple example, but very algorithmic on a item by item basis. The overhead of passing the data to and from MySQL will kill the speed unless it can do all the algorithms internally. Previous attempts have shown this. Dennis On Apr 26, 2005, at 9:06 PM, Stephen Barncard wrote: MySQL can do math on columns like you want. Very Fast. No loops in transcript. Check out the GROUP BY (Aggregate) Functions. http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/group-by-functions.html At 8:06 PM -0400 4/26/05, Dennis Brown wrote: Can anyone think of another way to do this that would be faster (for accessing parallel arrays, not the trivial adding them together operation I am doing here). Of course the times are for my machine and will vary on yours, but the ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCcBSo7aqtWrR9cZoRAqPNAJwNlnoWWFlDlFUkH8iN5flftEyl+wCggQXb nYgvMmE+WiguK14yohNJ/W4= =ywu1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Starting from Shell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 set the hideConsoleWindows to true -- optional, prevents ugly black windows from being displayed get shell(jpegcompress)-- required On Apr 26, 2005, at 12:05 AM, MisterX wrote: Hi Derek Just make sure the path to the jpegcompress.exe application is in the path of windows. To change the path, check window's help. (my computer properties - tab advanced, environment variables... find the path and add your application's path to it. or drop your application in the winnt folder (but messy)... cheers Xavier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Bump Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 05:50 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Starting from Shell How could I setup a rev standalone to launch on the following shell command? click start choose run type jpegcompress == Boom, it loads! I have no idea on how to set this up and I'd really like to add this functionality without having to type the full path. Derek Bump Dreamscape Software http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCbjdI7aqtWrR9cZoRAlz5AKCI19HsKCV95cG7xWZqSiFAqbgVewCdH5Jx gvbP48Z+h/riDYT17MqC4Zo= =2sMv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Simulating 'drawer' behaviour on Windows
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hmm... I think M$ could stand to hire more capable web designers, as their web site is a disaster (particularly the developer sections). Where can I find the Windows HIG? I was starting to wonder if they even existed. Thank you! On Apr 26, 2005, at 1:07 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Ben Rubinstein wrote: As far as I can tell, it is not possible to make a really effective simulation on Windows of the MacOS X 'drawer' behaviour using transcript. I think I missed the original post, so please forgive me if this has been addressed: The Win HIG recommends using a disclosure triangle for the sorts of things the Aqua HIG recommends using drawers for. Even better, the Aqua HIG maintains support for disclosure triangles, so one solution can cover you on all major platforms. Would a disclosure triangle not work in the app you're designing? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCbjgL7aqtWrR9cZoRAsbkAJ9ygFBulF4biMs3bEn2kTnqHs82jwCffkkd DgiQtfYFFIbpP91N6Q8NZsU= =Zh7Y -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: To MySQL or Not SQL
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It's one of the few databases I'd consider inferior to MySql, not because it lacks cross-platform compatibility, but because it is a Microsoft product ;-) Realistically, any of the major database servers will have advantages and disadvantages compared to the others. I personally like PostgreSQL: it is free for both noncommercial *and* commercial use (unlike MySql, which is only free for non-commercial use), it is reasonably fast and quite powerful, fully ACID-compliant, supports stored procedures, views, and so forth, has a sizable user community, etc. And it runs just fine on my OS X box, along with Windows, Linux, and a variety of other platforms. On Apr 26, 2005, at 8:49 AM, Jim Carwardine wrote: What about the differences between MySQL and MSSQL. The proponents of MSSQL are adamant that it is far better. Is it really? Of course, it's not x-platform, which is a mark against it in my books... Jim on 4/25/05 3:58 PM, Bill wrote: Yes I agree that SQL is the way to go. I can't wait until the MySQL to SQLite utility is released so that I can try SQLite. I think it will be faster at connecting. On 4/25/05 2:17 PM, Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else thinking along these lines? ||| )_) )_) )_) )___))___))___)\ )))_)\\ _|||\\\__ ---\ /- http://www.bluewatermaritime.com ^ ^ ^^^^^ ^^^ 24 hour cell: (787) 378-6190 fax: (787) 809-8426 Blue Water Maritime P.O. Box 91 Puerto Real, PR 00740 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- OYF is... Highly resourceful people working together. http://www.OwnYourFuture-net.com Own Your Future Consulting Services Limited, 1959 Upper Water Street, Suite 407, Halifax, Nova Scotia. B3J 3N2 Phone: 902-823-2339. Fax: 902-823-2139 Whats New... * Have you ever hired an employee who didnt work out? * Did you do that on purpose? Probably not... If you want to greatly improve your hiring process, check out our new hiring process... www.HiringSmart.ca/ns http://www.hiringsmart.ca/ns and... www.KeepingTheBest.ca/ns http://www.keepingthebest.ca/ns ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCbkJa7aqtWrR9cZoRAsoQAJ0aMN6w4NN3gIgLL0JSNe6qY67FzACfab9U WgSg71YvUbOWBSxrn/KLB1k= =mwRm -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Simulating 'drawer' behaviour on Windows
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 26, 2005, at 9:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://search.microsoft.com/search/results.aspx?view=en- usst=bna=82qu=human+interface+guideliness=4 Knowing how to use a website reduces the amount of non-sense ranting that is required to prove that Apple's web designers are better ;) Besides, Win GUIs are the worst and we all know it - after lotus notes... Oh, you didn't mention how bad IBM's website designers were! ;)) Only because it didn't seem relevant, not because I hadn't noticed. - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCbkLK7aqtWrR9cZoRAuyGAJ9xwPkdk3gTdBbY4ysyOy2EE7UtIgCfco+s 4szXZOc3Dvzay527jA/Ac5k= =6ZJV -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Draw over existing objects
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Maybe I'm just missing something here, but that stack doesn't seem relevant. There is lots of code in there for a number of things, but I am looking for a way to, for example: set the tool to graphic set the style of the templateGraphic to rectangle then let the user draw in a window whose entire visible area is covered by a group. The tool seemingly ignores the fact that it is a drawing tool (rather than a selection tool) and tries to select the group rather than draw a new rectangle. The group is not marked as opaque, currently has no objects within it (it is an empty group), is set to cantSelect, has both scrollbars, is visible, and covers all but a small part of the window, where I am dragging a palette along with the window (as a toolbar -- not a perfect solution, of course, but the best I've come up with so far given Rev's feature set in terms of the drawing tools). On Apr 25, 2005, at 2:20 PM, MisterX wrote: look at how ResizeN2O does it... http://www.monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Downloadsd_op=getitlid=78 Another example (but in browse mode) is how i make palettes draggeable... just intercept (or pass) the mousedown except where you shouldn't (or should)... cheers Xavier http://monsieurx.com - TAOO - the rave in RAD -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank D. Engel, Jr. Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 19:45 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Draw over existing objects -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am trying to set up an environment where I can use the standard drawing tools (graphic, field, pointer) and draw over top of a group, so that I can catch the new objects and add them to the group myself. I set the cantSelect of the group, etc., and that stuff is working okay; however, when I try to draw over the group, nothing happens. Apparently, Rev automatically tries to select an object when you mouseDown on it in pointer mode, even when you are using the graphic tool instead of the pointer tool. Thus instead of starting to draw a graphic, Rev is trying to select the group, but sees the cantSelect property and just decides to do nothing instead. Anyone know of a way to convince Rev to start the new graphic rather than just sit there when I try to draw with such a group underneath? Rev 2.5, OS X.3.whatever, etc. Thank you! - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCbSy67aqtWrR9cZoRAkqDAKCL1dtDU1J4ZY3lwBCiPsyboGJm0wCgg+KV Emd46eKmarOeRcn3rKrDEWk= =lzNq -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCbkZJ7aqtWrR9cZoRAnOkAJ4jDU5Z3gKfCSMdPxWUdkKFGGL6RQCbBUTM p8l2ix39fxsJftvBUHjuomM= =UCgw -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Draw over existing objects
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 26, 2005, at 10:19 AM, MisterX wrote: you're not obliged to be in drawing mode... You can simulate it with a cursor and a moving/resizing rect or graphic (with a marquee pattern). Except that I want to support nearly all of the graphics shapes -- rects, roundRects, ovals, curves, etc. -- and this would be substantially more work, possibly negating the value of doing this at all. Then you select what falls in the selection by intersection or inclusion... Im not sure i'd use a group rather than a simple rect graphic (simpler)... Except that the group does the work of handling scrolling for you. The group fills virtually the entire window (except where the toolbar is) - -- so there would be no value in using a rect. The group is not marked as opaque, currently has no objects within it (it is an empty group), is set to cantSelect, has both scrollbars, is visible, and covers all but a small part of the window, where I am dragging a palette along with the window (as a toolbar -- not a perfect solution, of course, but the best I've come up with so far given Rev's feature set in terms of the drawing tools). im lost here... What does the group do? Are you supposed to scroll when dragging beyond the edge? Not necessarily (though that's not a particularly bad idea); I'm creating a custom report layout editor to be included with a commercial software product, and would like to be able to scroll larger report layouts rather than splitting them into separate windows. I am now realizing various issues with my current implementation (which uses separate windows for each section -- this isn't the problem I'm trying to solve, but I'd like to fix it anyway), and in considering starting over, I'd like to get this done right this time, including a scrolling, resizing window representing the report layout. I want it to act like a drawing program, to make life a little easier for the end users. And looking at the reports product which has been brought up on this list previously: 1. I want to distribute the editor with the product, which would seemingly require a royalty fee (or at least an expensive custom version purchase), which I'm trying to avoid. 2. The product will gather information from a database, and I want the layouts stored on the database server itself, rather than files on a disk. 3. The editor brought up on the list allows use of Rev functions, etc. in fields, and I don't want to risk users picking up on the functions, etc. which I have included in the (rather large, complex) product and misusing them. 4. I'd like the editor to be a separate program, so that I can have it shared between several products in a series. Information about the various types of reports which layouts can be generated for should also be gathered from information which an installer will populate the database with. This includes a list of available sections, fields, etc. for any given report (and there will be a different set of sections possible with different types of reports). I could go on, but I think you get the idea by now. The editor is somewhat specialized, but I want it to look a bit more professional than a too-highly specialized tool. Of course, dragging the palette window around to make a toolbar isn't particularly professional-looking, either... Please Rev, let us specify a different tool for a single group placed on a card! Please... Or at least let us scroll entire windows, rather than just groups: I could stand to use a floating palette if that helps... - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCblmX7aqtWrR9cZoRAgoCAJ9Ja0jsZrK8nv2kxokc9cNH4kMj5wCfZf6m ndKQLd3k0Lu2lXeyiiTOZD0= =k0sp -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Draw over existing objects
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am trying to set up an environment where I can use the standard drawing tools (graphic, field, pointer) and draw over top of a group, so that I can catch the new objects and add them to the group myself. I set the cantSelect of the group, etc., and that stuff is working okay; however, when I try to draw over the group, nothing happens. Apparently, Rev automatically tries to select an object when you mouseDown on it in pointer mode, even when you are using the graphic tool instead of the pointer tool. Thus instead of starting to draw a graphic, Rev is trying to select the group, but sees the cantSelect property and just decides to do nothing instead. Anyone know of a way to convince Rev to start the new graphic rather than just sit there when I try to draw with such a group underneath? Rev 2.5, OS X.3.whatever, etc. Thank you! - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCbSy67aqtWrR9cZoRAkqDAKCL1dtDU1J4ZY3lwBCiPsyboGJm0wCgg+KV Emd46eKmarOeRcn3rKrDEWk= =lzNq -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: 10.4 Automator = Applescript?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 For details: http://developer.apple.com/macosx/tiger/automator.html On Apr 25, 2005, at 2:46 PM, Todd Higgins wrote: Applescript will continue on strong as ever. Automator is just a tool that will help people harness the power of Applescript without having to learn how to program. Or so the marketing speak goes. ; ) On Apr 25, 2005, at 2:40 PM, Kurt Kaufman wrote: Anyone know if Mac 10.4's Automator is a collection of customizable pre-fab Applescripts? As the author of a few Rev utilities that use Applescript, I'm wondering if Applescript will continue as before? KK ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Todd Higgins ASG Systems Engineer MICRO Technology Groupe, Inc voice: 215-788-6811 fax: 215-788-1766 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.mtgroupe.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCbV3A7aqtWrR9cZoRAqByAJ9jfueLMe6dBbBfaiJj7cuAbc5N7gCePB3T icAwQ4p8eOwDBJEbQItbIM8= =7DjP -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Draw over existing objects
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yes, I'm aware of both of those requests, and have commented on (and I think voted for) both of them a while back. The first would be particularly nice for me, but in the meantime I'm trying to work around that limitation by doing this. I guess this is a no-go then, too... :-( On Apr 25, 2005, at 2:23 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote: Anyone know of a way to convince Rev to start the new graphic rather than just sit there when I try to draw with such a group underneath? Not reliably in all cases. Anyone working on drawing apps may find these requests useful: http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=623 http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=624 -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCbV027aqtWrR9cZoRAva1AJwPpfftpWyFjeOBD1/es4idJzfXIACdFyPa 1Y7j2jyKMWxRzzh/5YwBeRg= =arKN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: number of substacks- practical limits
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You are still limited to one person using the program at a time, though - -- how do you propose to let multiple people access it simultaneously? This is really a solution demanding a database server, such as PostgreSQL (or MySql, or whatever), using Rev as a front-end... On Apr 22, 2005, at 2:50 AM, Eric Chatonet wrote: Hi Kurt, You can open as much script windows or property palettes as you want... Don't you? To do this there are not thousands of stacks (or substacks) in the IDE. Think of such an architecture to solve your problem: Create a template substack (only one!) and clone it on the fly when needed :-) And keep your main stack as a container. Best regards, Le 22 avr. 05, à 04:49, Kurt Kaufman a écrit : Assuming that an individual substack consists of a single card containing perhaps 7 or 8 fields, each with 5 KB of text, plus a few pop-up menus and buttons, how many substacks can be associated with a single mainstack? Only one substack would be open at any given point, but I might have as many as 2000 substacks. Right now, I have a single data stack with about 800 cards. Trouble is, only one person can access the data at a time. Would it be possible, if the data was divided by substack rather than by card, for more than one person to access the different substacks concurrently? I guess another way of expressing this would be to say that the equivalent of a db record would be a substack rather than a card. Amicalement, Eric Chatonet. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone 33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile 33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCaPlz7aqtWrR9cZoRAgnVAJ9nfMAQ2u+PAxJa1Q92umiTzF6fKwCeMrvI +t40dF1oJI3ZyEgId7CwqKE= =E+ro -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Multi-user access (was: number of substacks- practical limits)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You are mistaken. MySql (or even better PostgreSQL) can be run with an ordinary, client version of Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, whatever. You don't need a server edition operating system to run them. It would be much better for the integrity of your data, and for performance, to rewrite as a database front-end and use PostgreSQL (or MySql) as a back-end. On Apr 22, 2005, at 8:30 AM, Kurt Kaufman wrote: On Apr 22, 2005, at 6:23 AM, EC wrote: You can open as much script windows or property palettes as you want... Don't you? To do this there are not thousands of stacks (or substacks) in the IDE. Think of such an architecture to solve your problem: Create a template substack (only one!) and clone it on the fly when needed :-) And keep your main stack as a container. Thanks for your reply, Eric. Upon falling asleep last night I realized I used the wrong word; I did not really mean literally substacks. Perhaps I'd better explain the idea: Two users on separate (Windows XP Pro) computers each running an anchor standalone. One of the users also has 1000 separate one-card data stacks located on their computer. Both users, through the anchors, open and close the data stacks as needed. They must open different data stacks, of course, and I'd use a file marker as recommended in the Rev Documentation to indicate that a given data stack was in use. In this way, both users can work with [different records of] the data at the same time. I need to know whether this is possible, since I'd be in effect running [data] stacks over a Windows Workgroup PTP network. File-size of data and speed is of secondary importance here. I already have the data records set up as separate cards in a single stack; it would not be difficult to divide it into separate data stacks. I cannot configure one of the computers to run a Windows Server OS instead of XP, so I am assuming that as a result I cannot work with MySQL. Or am I mistaken? Thanks, Kurt ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCaPsN7aqtWrR9cZoRAteYAJ4hGpOFXMXaSq2C9zfwuKZYpCJawACfZavk jrXQ1cJz17qGFfzLh+RKtOY= =3kEp -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Simple Scoping Question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Now if only more people would read the archives *before* posting the questions, the list would have more answers to fewer questions (allowing time for things to catch up...) On Apr 20, 2005, at 9:28 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: We try to answer questions here before they've been asked. It saves time and spooks the competition. ;) - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCZ6lC7aqtWrR9cZoRAvA7AJ9H8U4X1LRJiHhUWtdpWITZSCdOPQCdGorv XPvRC1RMLqGfUjFcJqLO+zU= =+Sof -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: replaceText in Rev cgi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 2.5 has *been* out for Linux. It's the other *NIX platforms where Rev has been coming up short -- BSD, Solaris, Irix, etc. On Apr 21, 2005, at 11:30 AM, paolo wrote: Hi JB may I ask you where did you get a rev 2.5 engine cgi Linux? I thought there was only the rev 2.0 engine cgi available is there a new engine cgi also for mac and windows? I should install the cgi rev engine on a FirstClass server. In MACOX it works fine ... I put the engine on the cgi-bin folder and tht's it! However it does not work on Windows XP. I got HTTP InternalError 500 from the browser when I tried to run an Hello World script. Any suggestions? Paolo Mazza Venerdì, 15 Apr 2005, alle 21:44 Europe/Rome, jbv ha scritto: Hi all, I just noticed that the replaceText function doesn't work in Rev 2.5 cgi Linux... Is there a rational explanation to this ? Is that because the engine has not the Revolution GUI and commands that address the GUI will error? PS : I just finished a cgi script that generates on the fly PDF files (from 1 to 30 pages) with complex layouts featuring data from a MySQL DB, and it takes less than a fraction of a second... I'm so happy...:-) Actually rev cgi is great .. I have benn using for a while on Linux servers. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCZ9h77aqtWrR9cZoRAhk9AKCHX75e4hXleif6xZsYBniEynYoEQCght/v A+Y9hgr1cwacxlRJ6Y1DuDQ= =y6mh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keypress Help - Solution
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 But not necessarily for the mouse ;-) On Apr 20, 2005, at 12:56 AM, sims wrote: Doing the above will also be therapeutic for you. Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCZkdz7aqtWrR9cZoRAoqkAJ9Mmr5moj5vvahE03qpmKLFdsxTCACdHVjt v43Cp+ukbfmfxGgLagBAHKE= =WQ3w -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Alternating rows in a list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It's too bad HTML tables are not supported; that would make these questions SO much easier to deal with: table width=100% trtd bgcolor=#00Line 1/td/tr trtd bgcolor=#ffLine 2/td/tr trtd bgcolor=#00Line 3/td/tr trtd bgcolor=#ffLine 4/td/tr /table On Apr 20, 2005, at 1:29 AM, Gordon Tillman wrote: Howdy Varen, About your post: I'm trying to format a list field which displays plain old html with a list of links. I'd like to format the list so that each link in the list is an alternating color such as white, light grey, white, light grey, etc. Here is an example which may get you started.. Given a simple stack with one card that has two fields on it: (1) field htmlFld that displays the information, and (2) field entryFld where you can enter sample HTML to play with. Field entryFld has the following script: on enterInField set the htmlText of field htmlFld to me end enterInField And I entered the following into field entryFld: font color=blackLine 1 lifont color=greenLine 2 lifont color=blueLine 3 When you hit enter with the cursor in field entryFld, then field htmlFld displays this: Line 1 Line 2 Line 3 The first line is black, the second line is green, and the third line is blue. OK, here is another idea... Given a card with a field that contains the list of data to colorize, this script will set the colors to alternate: on mouseUp local tColor1, tColor2, tLastColor put blue into tColor1 put green into tColor2 put tColor1 into tLastColor local tLine repeat with tLine = 1 to the number of lines of field 1 set the textColor of line tLine of field 1 to tLastColor if tLastColor is tColor1 then put tColor2 into tLastColor else put tColor1 into tLastColor end repeat end mouseUp --gordon ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCZkjB7aqtWrR9cZoRAk8CAJ9fCT9xlxzrKVFMRwngS7oRVqNMDQCfZnI6 8Sf9aQc1K0KWfm+FeNj0LuM= =VCUE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Graphic turning to black
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Drag an image area onto your stack, then right-click and choose Paint Tools, and you will see that Rev already has built-in painting tools for use with images. You'll need to make your own toolbar (or otherwise provide an interface to pick a tool and color(s)), but most of the infrastructure is already there. Look up the tool property in the docs for more info. On Apr 20, 2005, at 7:04 AM, Christian Langers wrote: Hi, Independently of the img format, the black is there ! But I found out that turning the best resize quality on in the object inspector, solves this problem...?! By the way, is there anybody who did a paint-like stack as I'm working on a module for coloring imported images for children in kindergarten Thanks for any suggestion how to accelerate the project... Christian Am 19/04/05 17:29 schrieb MisterX unter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Christian said 1. I created a new stack 2. I imported an image (black and white img -- created in paint) (.bmp here) 3. colored parts of it with the fill bucket (any color) 4. selecting and resizing the image makes the whole image black !!! You can't work properly with this img anymore ...I noticed this only on the win version of REV 5. Saving the stack with the img turned to black, closing and reopening it, gives me the colored imag ; the color black did disappear... Is this a bug ? Or,... ? Christian, Have you tried using PNG? It might be well worth the switch from the old antiquated and oversized bmp format... Which just gives me the idea to make an import/export module for my media library... get askfile(*.bmp;*.pnt) importImage it replaceFileExtension it, png exportImage it delete last image ImportImage it excuse the pseudo script (taoo script actually), but im sure you'll find the right commands. I just join the names of the functions i use in my Transcript wrappers... Voila... I didn't test the rest mind you but it usually works. Although I've found the rev paint tools to be a bit unatractive, I keep the work to a more macpaint like program. I used to love doodling in HyperCard, i just dont feel the pencil the same way in RunRev... cheers Xavier ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCZkqB7aqtWrR9cZoRApj4AJ9uZvoO97aWZhZxklncnOdhDB+AvQCfbrd8 5mQTEfuVgs5Ec0/wdWw7FWM= =Kh+H -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Did you try using the htmlText of that line rather than just the plaintext of the line? In other words, something like this: set the htmlText of line 7 of field Target to the htmlText of field Source On Apr 20, 2005, at 9:28 AM, Ton Kuypers wrote: I've created a search replace application to be used from within Adobe Indesign and it works perfectly: A list with search words, a second list with replace words, some options and Indesign has got a supercharged SR function with whole lists of words replaced by one click on a button. To add words to the list, one can enter it in a Search textfield, the second part in the replace textfield. An add button adds it to the list. But... InDesign uses OpenType or double-byte fonts. These are unicode fonts. When copying a word from a page in InDesign the clipboard contains te text with the special characters, but they are mixed (unicode and regular). Problem: - Paste in the entry field shows the correct text, moving it up to the list doesn't. Solution: - Loop through the characters in the entry field and set the unicode text or the regular text of the correct line in the list. Question: - Is there a better way to do this? Problem 2: I know what number the last line of the list is, so I put this number + 1 into a var. Each new line will be entered into line varName. - When the last line of the list is a unicode text, the next line is entered on the same line, it seams that the linenumber in the var doesn't have any effect anymore. I've tried to add a CR after that line, but no luck :-( Anyone any solutions or remarks? Regards, Ton Kuypers Digital Media Partners bvba Tel. +32 (0)477 / 739 530 Fax +32 (0)14 / 71 03 04 http://www.dmp-int.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCZm1h7aqtWrR9cZoRAuPVAJ4ivgljtrwI3PE58x4aJ+qz2DO/oQCfbwNV 9nZ5zk0hQ3d1+J41A4aB7ME= =wlpi -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Animation Builder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There has been a marginalized rumor that a new one will be created at some point in the future, but I don't think that is known for sure, and I certainly haven't seen anything like a timetable related to this. So the short answer is, maybe, maybe not. We of the list do not know. This question comes up a lot, btw; you might be able to find more info by searching the list archives. On Apr 20, 2005, at 3:19 PM, Varen Swaab wrote: Great, I didn't embarrass myself as badly as I feared. What was the reason for removing it? Will it or something like it return in the future? Var On Apr 20, 2005, at 12:07 PM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Animation Builder was removed from Revolution (was it with the release of 2.5? I forget) -- I believe it is still available as a free (separate) download from Rev's web site, but is no longer supported by the company. On Apr 20, 2005, at 2:53 PM, Varen Swaab wrote: I have a new question which I'm sure will embarrass me. I'm (obviously) new at this RR stuff but I swear my application had a menu item for an Animation Builder. In fact I know it did because I used it during a tutorial. Now I'm trying to do an animation and the menu item is gone, it's not where it should be at all, not greyed out, just not there. BTW, I'm looking in the Tools menu. Any ideas where the Animation Builder in my application has gone to? Reward offered :) Varen ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCZqh27aqtWrR9cZoRAtO0AJ0XbXysAsFbzfyL9QzNTF6bbEC7GACfen3h 1MwiWfPfM+jItGxbe/W0QZ4= =kyzR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCZroF7aqtWrR9cZoRAgO8AJ4hDolAtEjmtjEDlEDmH0U70bpnwQCeO/qC waBzvhi5jxMQEM1aZsqO+IA= =AUtv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: playing video on PCs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The only certain way to do it is to require QuickTime, or to use a codec which you can feasibly and legally bundle with your stack. On Apr 19, 2005, at 9:59 AM, Alex Tweedly wrote: The advice about being able to rely on Indeo being available on all Windows machines is incorrect (or more likely, obsolete). Since SP1 (Sept 2002) of Windows XP, Microsoft have stopped shipping the Indeo codec; any machine bought since then does not have Indeo available. The Microsoft site simply says we no longer ship it (I'm told - haven't been and looked at that myself). The Indeo site ( http://www.ligos.com/indeo.htm ) says that it's Microsoft's decision - and they will sell you a personal copy for $15. - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCZRVL7aqtWrR9cZoRAtPPAKCBV3zD7gcrdK/CttL49+mv/D2O3QCeKSiP Ob6mP+B8w4ld5lyoqxeuNE0= =pJfd -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Date 1935
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It may be due to an internal limitation of your operating system; looking up the convert command in the Rev docs reveals that the convert command uses date/time routines provided by the operating system, with the implication that some operating systems can only handle dates after a certain year. Maybe with yours it is 1935. Which operating system are you using? On Apr 19, 2005, at 1:36 PM, Serge Sgu wrote: Hello The script below is OK with HyperCard but with DreamCard it returns a negative number with year 1935 what must I modify ? Best regards Serge -- on mouseUp answer calcAge (1/1/1934) end mouseUp function calcAge x put x into calc -- day of birth convert calc to seconds put ((the seconds - calc)/86400) into calc -- 86400 s = 1day set itemDelimiter to . if calc 30 then -- newborn delete last item of calc put days. after calc else if calc 30 and calc 913 then -- enfant put (calc / 30) into calc delete last item of calc put months. after calc else -- child or adult if calc 913 then put( calc / 365) into calc delete last item of calc put years. after calc end if end if end if return calc end calcAge -- Serge SGU AIM : mullowill http://wirinum.free.fr PGP: 0xB6132583 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCZUlt7aqtWrR9cZoRAlkBAKCBpqTy/7Lc4NC3Ai4AAddqffPbWgCfS4GA knXJdCD54Pk7PDs916dUyPs= =GYSp -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Date 1935
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Same OS and version here. Well... OS X still has the APIs from Mac OS Classic which allow dates starting from 1904, but it's also possible that Rev could be going by the UNIX standards (early date is 1970), or even using something else entirely. Since dates prior to 1970 are working for you, I doubt the UNIX calls are actually being used here, so the problem may be elsewhere. Unfortunately, I'm in the middle of writing a complex and lengthy script for something else right now so I can't try to track it down at the moment. Try using answer to view intermediate results during the function execution and see if you can tell where it is going wrong. If I get time later I might take a closer look at this. On Apr 19, 2005, at 2:15 PM, Serge Ségu wrote: Le 19 avr. 05, à 20:09, Frank D. Engel, Jr. a écrit : Which operating system are you using? Mac OS 10.3.9 -- Serge SÉGU http://wirinum.free.fr ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCZVBH7aqtWrR9cZoRAgmaAJ43HuhdMyEpBeHiyJjLaOphYmqVBwCePfqO yirWGW9Eu+caAicTYyiA4VI= =wr01 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keypress Help
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There are areas in which no two installation of the SAME Windows version seem to behave alike. Can't think of a specific one atm, but I do remember having seen differences in behavior from two (virtually identical) computers (the same model, with essentially the same hardware -- same video card, network card, and so on), having had Windows installed from the same installation media using the same settings (when working in a college computer lab having a network/site license of some sort, of course). On Apr 19, 2005, at 2:17 PM, Dar Scott wrote: On Apr 19, 2005, at 8:04 AM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: No two Windows OS machines behave alike, no matter how hard you try... many computer labs are the true proof. Rats. And I thought Scott could use my counter solution. Well, Scott, if you have to do it by cases, the D DU DU DU DU U behavior I saw was on XP sp1? and Rev 2.5. Dar -- ** DSC (Dar Scott Consulting Dar's Lab) http://www.swcp.com/dsc/ A Sponsor of RevCon West ** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCZVFR7aqtWrR9cZoRArgdAJ42OTq874fEKPiacm7LxZ44IPwAYgCfbrq/ IJuo4n/rhS9v52+UJ5to7HU= =XK6X -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LZW compression and binaryEncode
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A character cannot store values outside the range of 0-255. if you wish to store longer values, you need to use multiple characters. For example, you can use two characters to store values in the range of 0-65535: function encode2 x return numToChar(x div 256) numToChar(x bitAnd 255) end encode2 function decode2 x return (charToNum(char 1 of x) * 256) + charToNum(char 2 of x) end decode2 On Apr 17, 2005, at 5:07 PM, jbv wrote: Dar, Thanks again for the reply, but actually I know most of what you explained, as I've already fiddled with the binaryEncode function (for sound files other data manipulations)... Although, several issues still remain unclear : my serie of output indexes resulting from the LZW compression feature more than 256 entries. Therefore I'm wondering how this could be represented in binary, in order to be decoded by the LZW filter in pdf... Best, JB On Apr 17, 2005, at 2:38 PM, jbv wrote: But now I need to convert the output serie of index into binary data... Anyone familiar with this ? I guess I need to use binaryEncode, but how to set up parameters ? Normally, we think of a value in Transcript as a sequence of characters. When we work with binary we can view each character as that for an 8-bit encoding, that is, a byte. Thus, a value can be viewed as a sequence of bytes. Just as we can concatenate characters with , we an concatenate what we consider to be bytes sequences the same way. To get at the numerical value of the byte, you can use charToNum(). You can also use numToChar() as the inverse. You can also use binaryEncode() and binaryDecode(). Most formats are in host order and so are of limited utility. However, some formats, such as N, are big endian. If you need small endian formatting, just reverse. There are some formats missing, so you would want to build up a few simple functions to help. For example, put binaryEncode(N,566) into aLen would put 4 bytes (chars) into aLen. Dar -- ** DSC (Dar Scott Consulting Dar's Lab) http://www.swcp.com/dsc/ Custom libraries (with externals, if needed) ** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCY61p7aqtWrR9cZoRAmGjAKCDS+BAise+oKyQDPN+fbgwD/ACygCfb8wt qUfEbH995cVGfdm2rLI24fA= =AbNP -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution and .swf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 SWF File Format Info: http://www.minigui.com/flashplayer/swf_toc1_4/SWFfileformat.html http://ming.sourceforge.net/ http://www.quiss.org/swftools/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/libswf/ http://www.eprg.org/projects/SVG/flash2svg/swfsvganim.html http://www.swift-tools.net/Flash/ An alternative to SWF is SVG, which is a W3C standard, and much more open to outside developers: http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/ http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/SVG-Implementations http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/main.html On Apr 18, 2005, at 5:24 AM, Brian Yennie wrote: Judy, I believe one problem is that there is no public API for embedded Flash support. Last I checked, it requires paying a hefty license to Macromedia for a development kit. Implementing from scratch is a huge task also- notice that they aren't really any 3rd party Flash Players (even Quicktime's support is always a little behind the curve). FWIW. I haven't looked into this in a while. The only reasonable way I know of to support Flash would be to offer up support for browser plug-ins. Does anyone know of a dev environment that _does_ include embedded Flash playback in a desktop app? - Brian I gotta admit, I still don't get this. Flash is perhaps the preeminent 2D animation file format; probably overtaking Director? Not getting Flash or providing some native support for it positively cripples Rev as a multimedia scripting environment. And I don't even USE Flash (beyond trying to get together a little handout on doing simple animation in it for my class). I recently revisited the Animation Builder. Didn't really suck all that much, did it? No Flash, certainly, but without native support for Flash, what is the simple DreamCard developer wishing to include animation to do? And now they don't even have that (the Animation Builder, that is)... Judy On Sun, 17 Apr 2005, Yonnys Pablo Martin Olivera wrote: Hello: I am beginning to program in revolution, but previously I had had experience in Flash of Macromedia and I would like to know if somebody could help on that relationship is between Revolution and the files .swf and if some form exists of linking them. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCY7qV7aqtWrR9cZoRArJrAJ4x2Hikb/g+T7vTaRUNj5jknIGm5ACfQSGx tgJKkRMa65GP5ETVcXFmHc4= =SjGW -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Lists and Custom Properties
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You can't do that. Custom properties are assigned to objects, not to the contents of those objects. There are a few ways to accomplish what you are trying to do, though: - - You could use a custom property on the field itself to store the extra information for all of the lines in the field (scrolling list). Each line of the custom property could represent the corresponding line of the scrolling list, for example. - - If each line in the scrolling list is guaranteed to be unique, you could use a custom property set as if it were an array, using the content of the scrolling list (which may be a string, it does not need to be a number) as an index into the array, and storing the other values in the array. - - You could use a separate, hidden (if desired) field to store the extra information etc. On Apr 16, 2005, at 3:06 PM, Gary Thompson wrote: I've just purchased Revolution Studio after playing with the demo for 30 days. I am really impressed with this product! I have used Realbasic, Visual Basic, Toolbook, Hypercard and SuperCard at some point in my career but this is probably the best RAD system I've seen to date. I've been getting up to speed using the video tutorials and reading the archives of this mailing list and have had great success in my learning curve. I am especially interested in custom properties but I'm having a little bit of trouble understanding them. Which brings me to my question: How would one store a custom property for each line in a scrolling list? For example: a list of names and the custom property would contain that person's age or something like that. Hopefully this makes sense! - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCYWWT7aqtWrR9cZoRAnqxAJ9xhk4br0CODWrlMQIPFulomHdEfQCeLOHO mRUYbaEMY9b/K9409w1scnA= =we7y -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
