Re: Drag and Drop to Item in List Field
How about this... on mouseMove set the hilitedLines of me to (word 2 of the mouseLine) end mouseMove Terry... On 17/11/10 10:39 AM, Bill Vlahos bvla...@mac.com wrote: The following script works very well with one problem. This script hilites the line correctly but just keeps hiliting lines as I move the mouse around and they stay hilited. Make a scrolling field with some lines of text and put this handler in it: on mouseWithin set the backgroundColor of the mouseLine to yellow end mouseWithin How do I have it only hilite one line at a time? Bill Vlahos On Nov 12, 2010, at 11:12 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote: I have a list of categories and I want to drag and drop some text from a list field onto one of the categories in the target list field. The line of text should hilite on the drag (before the drop) so I know which item it is going to I should drag into. I can get most of the coding for drag and drop but there are some things I don't know. 1. How do I hilite the line of text in the list field the mouse is over? 2. How do I get the line of text in the target list field when the users drops the mouse? Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode Personal Banner
What about creating a personal 'player' application that starts up automatically and is just left running in the background. You could then open your projects as you do in the IDE (e.g. drop them on the app icon, retrieve them from a recent list or open them via a file selection dialog) without the distractions of all the other IDE stuff. You'll only see the splash message once on startup/login irrespective of the number of times you run your 'apps'. Terry... On 16/11/10 11:17 AM, zryip theSlug zryip.thes...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Peter Haworth p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote: When I'm testing and fixing bugs - a lot! Pete, Oh in the debugging process. Ok I understand. My advice could be: let the app opened, open the corresponding project in the IDE as well and fixes in live the bugs you find in the standalone. Of course not so efficient if you are debugging the startup handler. A naive question: have you find so many differences between a project in the IDE and the resulting application? Regards, -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Saving/importing custom controls to/from file
On 9/11/10 11:51 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Terry Judd wrote: Seems like it might be a bit simpler if I can suck an object straight out of a networked database onto the clipboard and paste it when and where I want it. Easier to update/maintain and less hassle than loading stacks, making sure the right stack has focus and fiddling with object names and ids and the like. copy objLongId to destObjLongId Takes any object from any stack and puts it where you want it, leaving the user's Clipboard intact. There are undoubtedly some interesting implications for RevMobile! Many uses - you can copy between standalones, for instance. I copy between Rev and MC regularly since native object persistence in the public Clipboard was implemented. But why especially useful for RevMobile? It seems like a simple and fairly robust method for customising/modifying an existing application. Terry... -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Saving/importing custom controls to/from file
On a whim I tried copying a group and saving the contents of the clipboard (clipboardData[³objects²]) to file. I then cleared the clipboard and set the clipboardData to the file and was able to paste the reconstructed¹ object back into my stack. I have to admit that I was surprised that this worked as I always just expected that the clipboard data would just contain some pointers to the copied objects rather than a usable copy of the control. The same also method appears to work for entire cards. There may? be some benefits in using this approach compared to saving controls in library¹ stacks. Is anybody already doing this, and if so what are their experiences (pros and cons)? Terry... Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Saving/importing custom controls to/from file
Yep - several times to make sure - and I checked the clipboard in between. Terry... On 9/11/10 9:12 AM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: On 09/11/2010, at 7:41 AM, Terry Judd wrote: On a whim I tried copying a group and saving the contents of the clipboard (clipboardData[³objects²]) to file. I then cleared the clipboard and set the clipboardData to the file and was able to paste the reconstructed¹ object back into my stack. I have to admit that I was surprised that this worked as I always just expected that the clipboard data would just contain some pointers to the copied objects rather than a usable copy of the control. The same also method appears to work for entire cards. There may? be some benefits in using this approach compared to saving controls in library¹ stacks. Is anybody already doing this, and if so what are their experiences (pros and cons)? Hi Terry I haven't tried but it doesn't seem right to me. Did you quit and restart livecode to make sure memory was cleared. Cheers Monte___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Saving/importing custom controls to/from file
On 9/11/10 1:29 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: On 11/8/10 4:31 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: Yep - several times to make sure - and I checked the clipboard in between. Great, I wonder how it might best be used. I'm not sure there's a massive advantage to this over saving a custom control on a stack and just copying the control from the stack. I bet it started when RR added the ability to copy/paste objects between different instances of Rev. I make use of that a lot. It does seem like there should be a use for storing a single control all by itself. I just can't think what. I've got a 'system' that displays a series of context-specific add-on modules (support tools, prefabricated forms and the like). At the moment these (custom objects) are stored on separate cards in a series of external stacks and I load the stacks and copy and paste the objects into the main stack window as required. Seems like it might be a bit simpler if I can suck an object straight out of a networked database onto the clipboard and paste it when and where I want it. Easier to update/maintain and less hassle than loading stacks, making sure the right stack has focus and fiddling with object names and ids and the like. There are undoubtedly some interesting implications for RevMobile! Terry... -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Saving/importing custom controls to/from file
On 9/11/10 1:29 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: On 11/8/10 4:31 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: Yep - several times to make sure - and I checked the clipboard in between. Great, I wonder how it might best be used. I'm not sure there's a massive advantage to this over saving a custom control on a stack and just copying the control from the stack. I bet it started when RR added the ability to copy/paste objects between different instances of Rev. I make use of that a lot. It does seem like there should be a use for storing a single control all by itself. I just can't think what. You've gotta like the simplicity of... set the clipboardData[objects] to url (binfile:myFilePath) Terry... -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack dimension for mobile application
You need to reduce the size by 20 pixels to allow for the status bar for the iPhone 3 and iPad so I guess this means a 40 pixel reduction for the iPhone 4. Terry... On 31/10/10 10:41 PM, paolo mazza mazzapaoloit...@gmail.com wrote: As far as I know, the resolution of the screen of iPhone 4 is 960 x 640 iPhone3 - iPod Touch is 480 x 320 iPad is 1024 x 768 So, if I want to deploy my application for iphone and ipad, what's the size of the stack (width and height) that I am supposed to set in order to have a full screen application in the iPhone and in the iPad? Thanks a lot Paolo Mazza ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Refreshing a card
Mark - if you want to do a general refresh the card then just call openCard in your handler. If all you want to do is refresh the date stamp object then add something like... Set the visible of grp/fld/whatever dateStamp to the showDateStamp of this stack ...to your case statement HTH, Terry... On 1/11/10 2:52 PM, Mark Smith mark_sm...@cpe.umanitoba.ca wrote: Hello all, by now most of you are probably familiar with my silly questions (born of, I am afraid, too many years engrossed in procedural programming languages). Here we go. I have a menu option called Toggle Date Stamp and it toggles on/off the display of a date stamp on the card. When you select it you might expect that the card goes from displaying the date stamp to not displaying the date stamp ad infinitum. Not so. In fact nothing changes. If I move off the card and then back on I see the correct behaviour but not while I am actually on the card (or any card). I am guessing that in the Toggle Date Stamp menu code (below) I need to send a message to the card to refresh itself. But what message? case Toggle Date Stamp set the showDateStamp of this stack to not the showDateStamp of this stack -- insert some message to get the current card to redisplay itself break end switch (Note, yes the showDateStamp property is in the stack because it effects the behaviour of all of the cards, not particular ones. Hopefully I've got that bit of logic right :-) Thanks for your patience, -- Mark -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Swapping scrolling text for regular text
Mark - all you need to do is select the field and enable its vScrollbar property in the property inspector. Regards, Terry... On 31/10/10 1:33 PM, Mark Smith mark_sm...@cpe.umanitoba.ca wrote: I have a sort of dumb question. I have a stack with about 12 cards that has a text field on it (part of a background group). I would like to change this field to a scrolling text field. Is it possible to swap or change the existing regular text field into a scrolling one without loosing the existing text entries? (or is the only option to restart from scratch). Thanks -- Mark -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Missing mouse clicks
I¹ve got something weird going on where after creating a series of objects by script (events in a calendar tool) the first two clicks on any of the created objects aren¹t trapped. On the third click the group (of events) mouseup script gets triggered and from then on a single click on any object works as expected. I was previously using a behavior in each of the objects but the same thing was happening. I¹ve tried trapping the mouseup message at the object, group, card and stack level but none of them seem to get those first two clicks (mousedowns are swallowed up as well). Suspending the development environment doesn¹t help and I¹m seeing the same thing in a standalone. Any ideas on what could be going on??? Terry... -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Photoshop Applescript fails , why?
What happens if you use system events to activate Photoshop first and then tell Photoshop to do its action? tell application System events to tell application Adobe Photoshop CS5 to activate tell application Adobe Photoshop CS5 to do action [action] from [set] Terry... On 29/10/10 2:21 PM, Sivakatirswami ka...@hindu.org wrote: I'm trying to drive some photoshop processes with Livecode. The idea is small applescripts are easy, bigger file operations are easier done in LiveCode. 2 problems ONE: Apple script dies in LiveCode, but runs in Script Editor.app why? tell Application Adobe Photoshop CS5 do action merge leaves from Merge Leaves end tell works from Applescript Editor.app I can also put this into a custom property tell application Adobe Photoshop CS5 activate do action ###Action### from ###Set### end tell and this in a button: on mouseUp put the uMergeLeavesAScript of this stack into tScript replace ###Action### with fld Action Name in tScript replace ###Set### with fld Action Set in tScript do tScript as AppleScript end mouseUp If I test for my script with a put statement I get exactly what works in Applescript Editor.app tell Application Adobe Photoshop CS5 do action merge leaves from Merge Leaves end tell But Adobe Photoshop is not activated. If I add this to the script: tell application Adobe Photoshop CS5 activate do action ###Action### from ###Set### end tell it still does not work If I test just this: tell application Adobe Photoshop CS5 activate end tell it *does* work... so ... why does the applescript line do action merge leaves from Merge Leaves when run from LiveCode a) block the activation of photoshop b) thereby fail to run itself? Any clues? TWO: Run another program (via applescript) on a loop from inside LiveCode then, once I do get it running, is it possible to have LiveCode run another application on a loop? once you activate another program.. and if the program takes many seconds to run the process, can LiveCode be told to wait and when activity stop in Photoshop, to go open the next two files? on mouseUp put the uMergeLeavesAScript of this stack into tScript replace ###Action### with fld Action Name in tScript replace ###Set### with fld Action Set in tScript put fld PhotoshopPath into tPhotoShop put fld FileDirectory into tFolder set the defaultFolder to tFolder put the files into tFileList filter tFilelist with *.JPG* launch (tFolder/ line 1 of tFileList) with tPhotoShop launch (tFolder/ line 2 of tFileList) with tPhotoShop do tScript as AppleScript # put this in a loop to then go back and get the next set of files. end mouseUp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac App Store
On 26/10/10 3:47 PM, Pierre Sahores psaho...@free.fr wrote: The way successfully used by the french Credit Agricole bank to make it's fortune in using a slipknot credit policy to make its cattle's breeders customers as dependent as possible from the bank. Apple will probably be successful too in granting its ability to have the test-market risks and job done by others before killing them by Apple labeled cloned apps when the original solutions become too profitable to let them in independent and naive hands. Is Apple on the road to become one of the most important cloner all over the world after China ? Perhaps not... The major supermarket chains operate in exactly the same way. Terry... -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Https, sslVerification, certificates - huh?
Attention web gurus, I¹m probably going about it all wrong but I¹m still struggling to retrieve data from a series of secure (https) websites. Each of these sites requires a username and password and I can post these along with the url and am able to retrieve the expected result but ONLY if I set libURLSetSSLVerifaction to false. If I don¹t do this I get nothing back from the url a blank result. While setting libURLSetSSLVerifaction to false gets things moving I suppose? that doing so means the transaction isn¹t really secure?? I¹ve tried setting the sslCertificates (by first loading the sites in Firefox and exporting the certificates) but that doesn¹t seem to work. I¹m moving well past my comfort zone with this stuff and am close to admitting defeat but I really need to get this stuff working for a major edu project I¹m working on. Rev 4.5 OSX 10.6 Any tips or ideas? Terry... -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Https, sslVerification, certificates - huh?
I don't think that's the problem. I know at least one of the sites has a session cookie but that doesn't seem to be involved in the initial authentication. One of the sites definitely doesn't use any cookies and I have the same problems even if I only try to connect to this site. Terry... On 25/10/10 7:42 PM, Jim Sims s...@ezpzapps.com wrote: Maybe there is a cookie involved somewhere? sims --- On Oct 25, 2010, at 10:39 AM, Terry Judd wrote: Attention web gurus, I¹m probably going about it all wrong but I¹m still struggling to retrieve data from a series of secure (https) websites. Each of these sites requires a username and password and I can post these along with the url and am able to retrieve the expected result but ONLY if I set libURLSetSSLVerifaction to false. If I don¹t do this I get nothing back from the url a blank result. While setting libURLSetSSLVerifaction to false gets things moving I suppose? that doing so means the transaction isn¹t really secure?? I¹ve tried setting the sslCertificates (by first loading the sites in Firefox and exporting the certificates) but that doesn¹t seem to work. I¹m moving well past my comfort zone with this stuff and am close to admitting defeat but I really need to get this stuff working for a major edu project I¹m working on. Rev 4.5 OSX 10.6 Any tips or ideas? Terry... -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Https, sslVerification, certificates - huh?
Thanks Andre - that gives me some confidence that proceeding without the certificates is OK (i.e. the data is still encrypted) because really all I'm concerned about is that the username and password data I send to each of the sites isn't visible to snoopers. Having said that I'm still confused about the whole certificates thing. LiveCode 4.5 is supposed to automatically find the root certificates you have installed on your system and start using them but this doesn't appear to happen? even though the example in the release note (fetching https://google.com) seems to work. I guess the ideal situation would be for LC to behave more like Firefox, which seems to (without fail and quite transparently) detect when a certificate is required/on offer and gives you the option of putting it into use. Best regards, Terry... On 26/10/2010, at 12:12 AM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Terry, There are two different things happening here. One is SSL encryption which protects the communication between your machine and the remote machine, the other is user authentication that protects the other machine from unauthorized access. For LiveCode to trust/accept an SSL certificate as verified, it must be issued by some certificate authority (CA) that is known. Most operating systems come with a list of known CA or something similar, sorry for my lack of proper terminology but I can't recall the name of that file. If you try establish a connection to a secure server and the certificate provided by that server is not from a known CA due to one of the possible facts: * that the CA file is outdated or not found * the remote guys used some CA that is not common and not on most CA files * the remote guys are using a self-signed certificate meaning they are acting like their own authority. This will trigger an error on the SSL library, not an untrusted connection or encryption error but a CA verification error. The connection still works and is secure but the certificate can't be verified. Basically it is an error of the type we don't know who issued this damn thing so we're screaming. You're still protected in terms of a technical standpoint. Checking out the error spilled by libURL might help you understand what is actually happening such as is it self-signed, is it expired... but the SSL connection will still hold. When you use set libURLSetVerification to False you're just bypassing this verification step and jumping to the actual business of hey machine, just encrypt this damn connection will you!. The authentication side happens on another layer. After the secure connection is stablished and that is TCP/IP juggling bytes like those street magicians, you will face the HTTP Authentication layer which is like that really big bouncer at the front door of that club you want to enter. If you passed the magician with the really entangled bytes, then, you need to present your credentials to the bouncer or you will not be allowed in. Different things on the same street but you need to pass from one to the other to arrive at your desired destination. Hope this helps andre Question the Certificate Authority!!! garzia ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Datagrid - chopped off last record
Another one solved (although the cause remains a mystery). I rebuilt the datagrid and the problem went away. Terry... On 18/10/10 2:44 PM, Terry Judd t...@unimelb.edu.au wrote: So, my form datagrid has the 'fixed control height' setting unchecked and it's all displaying as expected, except for the last record, which is being only partially displayed, even when the scrollbar is scrolled right to the bottom. The proportion of the last record being displayed also changes according to the height of the datagrid. How do I get the entire last record to be displayed? Terry... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Datagrid update problem
Hi there datagrid gurus I¹ve got a datagrid form with variable control heights that doesn¹t seem to want to draw the contents when I update it. The controls appear to be populated but I don¹t see anything (no matter how long I wait) until I attempt to scroll the apparently empty datagrid. When I do this, the first few records show up OK but the scrollbar is disabled and I can¹t access the remaining records. Each record consists of up to 6 fields that are stacked on top of each other with their heights being determined and set in the layout control handler. Any ideas on what the problem might be. Terry... -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Datagrid update problem
OK - solved my own problem. I was trying to populate a non-existent field in the template that was only being used to display content in a small number of records. Terry... On 18/10/10 12:25 PM, Terry Judd t...@unimelb.edu.au wrote: Hi there datagrid gurus I¹ve got a datagrid form with variable control heights that doesn¹t seem to want to draw the contents when I update it. The controls appear to be populated but I don¹t see anything (no matter how long I wait) until I attempt to scroll the apparently empty datagrid. When I do this, the first few records show up OK but the scrollbar is disabled and I can¹t access the remaining records. Each record consists of up to 6 fields that are stacked on top of each other with their heights being determined and set in the layout control handler. Any ideas on what the problem might be. Terry... -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Datagrid - chopped off last record
So, my form datagrid has the 'fixed control height' setting unchecked and it's all displaying as expected, except for the last record, which is being only partially displayed, even when the scrollbar is scrolled right to the bottom. The proportion of the last record being displayed also changes according to the height of the datagrid. How do I get the entire last record to be displayed? Terry... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevBrowser - setting the title in a custom browser
Thanks Mike - I completely forgot to check the revBrowserGet properties! Ideally there'd be a way of querying this while the download was in progress given that the HTML usually loads pretty quickly. Regards, Terry... On 15/10/2010, at 5:52 AM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: One thing that might help is that you don't need to parse the htmltext for the title, its already a property. revbrowserget(pinstanceid,title) So something simple like this in the card script works ok. on browserdocumentcomplete pInstanceId, pUrl put revBrowserGet(pInstanceId,title) into WhereverYouWantIt end browserDocumentComplete I did notice the lag you spoke of when going to pages with heavy graphics and the like but am not sure there's really a way around it. I don't believe the htmltext or title properties are set until the document load is complete, but I could be wrong and often am! On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Terry Judd t...@unimelb.edu.au wrote: I want to set a title field in a custom browser object I¹ve created but I¹m having a few problems. I can set it by querying and parsing the browser¹s htmltext in a browserDocumentComplete handler but this waits until the entire document has loaded (images and all), which means that it often lags WELL behind what is displayed in the browser. I¹ve also tried using a browserNavigateComplete handler (I use this to set the url field) coupled with a send in time message to a handler that gets the htmltext but it seems (at least on OSX) that the browser prevents this message from firing until the user moves the mouse out of the browser object. Surely someone has dealt with this issue already. Any ideas? Terry... -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RevBrowser - setting the title in a custom browser
I want to set a title field in a custom browser object I¹ve created but I¹m having a few problems. I can set it by querying and parsing the browser¹s htmltext in a browserDocumentComplete handler but this waits until the entire document has loaded (images and all), which means that it often lags WELL behind what is displayed in the browser. I¹ve also tried using a browserNavigateComplete handler (I use this to set the url field) coupled with a send in time message to a handler that gets the htmltext but it seems (at least on OSX) that the browser prevents this message from firing until the user moves the mouse out of the browser object. Surely someone has dealt with this issue already. Any ideas? Terry... -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] scroll wheel object for RevMobile iPhone made with Rev
Ooh - nice! Terry... On 8/10/10 5:36 AM, BNig niggem...@uni-wh.de wrote: some time ago someone was looking for native iPhone controls for RevMobile. I tried to emulate an iPhone scroll wheel through Rev objects that looks close to the native scroll wheel. The advantage of an Rev object is that it is all graphics and scalable. The disadvantage that RevMobile and the iPhone are not the fastest. (small scroll wheels work acceptably on an iPhone 3G, much better experience on an iPad) As a revlet look here: http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/scrollwheel/scrollWheeliPhone/index.html as a zipped stack here: http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/scrollwheel/scrollwheelstack/scrollwheeliphon e.rev.zip click and drag on the wheels, if at first not responsive click outside the revlet and than inside again. Comments welcome regards Bernd -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT} (slightly) Anyone knows an affordable HD recovery service?
If you disk is dodgy but not completely stuffed you might have some success connecting it to another Mac in Firewire target disk mode or by starting it up from the install DVD, firing up the terminal and using ditto to copy stuff across to an external hard drive. I managed to toast two internal hard drive on my near new MacBook Pro recently in the space of two weeks recently and was able to recover a lot of stuff this way, despite the fact that the MacBook wouldn't boot up and the disk was making all sorts of bad clicking noises. Terry... On 6/10/10 9:20 AM, Dar Scott d...@swcp.com wrote: Others have mentioned some software that might help if you deleted some files or have a corrupted file system. Just don't do anything with the disk, if you can, until you run recovery software. If the macBook is broken, maybe you can place the drive in another. If the drive is broken, then this can get expensive and I don't know of a source, but I know some people who do. Dar On Oct 5, 2010, at 3:00 PM, Malte Pfaff-Brill wrote: Hey all, well, you will have guessed it from the subject. My HD (internal from the macBook) and also my backup sytem got toasted today. If anyone knows a recovery service which only charges one arm, not both and a leg, I´d appreciate any info I can get. Companies in the EU preferred. All the best, Malte___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: loading a https page on OS X
On 04/10/2010, at 5:47 PM, Malte Pfaff-Brill revolut...@derbrill.de wrote: Hi Terry, the data is still sent/returned securely, I just don't need to stuff around with certificates? I think so, but I would like a word from someone who knows better than me.. :-) Agreed. I'm clueless about this side of things and would love to see a lesson up on the RunRev site on https, certificates and the like. Regards, Terry... All the best, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: loading a https page on OS X
On 4/10/10 5:30 AM, Malte Pfaff-Brill revolut...@derbrill.de wrote: Klaus: libUrlSetSSLVerification false So (butting in because I'm in the middle of doing this as well), just to get this straight, if I post something to a https url (on my server) the data is still sent/returned securely, I just don't need to stuff around with certificates? Terry... hth, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: MYSQL timeout
That's what I did, so it makes sense. Terry... On 02/10/2010, at 4:56 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Aye. Methinks that when someone replies to an email from the list, there is some kind of identifier in the email that tells a mailer it belongs to a particular thread. So if someone replies to one thread, but substitutes the subject with an entirely new subject, some mailers might just think they were still the same thread. That's my theory and I'm sticking to it. :-) Bob On Oct 1, 2010, at 9:52 AM, stephen barncard wrote: perhaps only in your mailer. On 1 October 2010 11:28, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: No offense, but how in the HECK did this get stuck in the middle of the IPad's competitor from RIM thread? Bob On Sep 28, 2010, at 6:20 PM, Terry Judd wrote: The problem of lengthy timeouts when trying to connect to a MSQL server that is down/offline is bugging me again. It seems like the default timeout is 60 seconds which is way too long to wait for a response but there's no obvious way to override it. The socketTimeoutInterval has no effect and while I've got some old code laying around that suggests setting an environment variable ($MYSQL_CLIENT_TIMEOUT) it doesn't work either. Any ideas? Terry... -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: MYSQL timeout
Yep - tried on LiveCode - no joy there so far. Cheers, Terry... On 30/09/2010, at 3:54 AM, Devin Asay devin_a...@byu.edu wrote: On Sep 28, 2010, at 7:20 PM, Terry Judd wrote: The problem of lengthy timeouts when trying to connect to a MSQL server that is down/offline is bugging me again. It seems like the default timeout is 60 seconds which is way too long to wait for a response but there's no obvious way to override it. The socketTimeoutInterval has no effect and while I've got some old code laying around that suggests setting an environment variable ($MYSQL_CLIENT_TIMEOUT) it doesn't work either. Any ideas? Terry, Have you tried this on LiveCard 4.5? According to the release notes, there was an engine change that made opening sockets non-blocking, but I don't know whether that affects MySQL connections. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: MYSQL timeout
Thanks Malte - that seems like a good solution. My issues have mainly been with the server itself rather than with MySQL. Terry... On 30/09/2010, at 7:12 AM, Malte Pfaff-Brill revolut...@derbrill.de wrote: Hi Terry, had the same problem. I settled to ping the IP first before trying to connect to the DB: switch case mac is in the platform get shell(ping -q -o -c3 -t3tIP) if the result is not empty then put the result into tError end if break case win is in the platform set the hideConsoleWindows to true local tShell put (ping -n 1 -w 100 tIP) into tShell get shell(tShell) if the result is not empty then put the result into tError end if break end switch if tError is not empty then -- can not connect to server end if Even though you can not be sure, that mySQL is really up and running, you will at least know if the server is there. Hope that helps a little. Cheers, Malte___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
MYSQL timeout
The problem of lengthy timeouts when trying to connect to a MSQL server that is down/offline is bugging me again. It seems like the default timeout is 60 seconds which is way too long to wait for a response but there's no obvious way to override it. The socketTimeoutInterval has no effect and while I've got some old code laying around that suggests setting an environment variable ($MYSQL_CLIENT_TIMEOUT) it doesn't work either. Any ideas? Terry... -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: using datagrid with revmobile
I couldn't get a datagrid object to scroll (with a scrollbar) in the plugin so perhaps they aren't quite compatible just yet. BTW, has anyone made any progress with emulating an iPhone scrolling field/list/menu object? I got as far as making implementing the top an bottom 'overflow' regions and the scaled scroll indicator but mine doesn't have any momentum action (you can't flick it). Terry... On 15/09/10 10:31 PM, paolo mazza mazzapaoloit...@gmail.com wrote: I have few questions about using datagrid in mobile applications... In an application for iPhone, can I place a datagrid object ? Datagrid objects work fine in mobile applications created by the present RevMobile plugin? What about next release of the RevMobile plugin? Thanks a lot Paolo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: focus border color
It looks like focusColor is broken on OSX at least as setting it either at the stack or object level has no effect. I always get the standard bluish color irrespective of what color I set the focusColor to (querying the focusColor correctly reports the color I have 'applied'). Terry... On 6/09/10 8:58 AM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: Hi the effective focusColor is returning black when I can see that it's a bluish color Any way to find the focus border color? Cheers Monte___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry Health Sciences The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: focus border color
Based on the colors in the Apple Developer palette it seems to be 67,138,208 Terry... On 6/09/10 9:46 AM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: Ah, anyone know the RGB values for that OS X focus border then? On 06/09/2010, at 9:35 AM, Terry Judd wrote: It looks like focusColor is broken on OSX at least as setting it either at the stack or object level has no effect. I always get the standard bluish color irrespective of what color I set the focusColor to (querying the focusColor correctly reports the color I have 'applied'). ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry Health Sciences The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Datagrid: simple (non-3D) column header dividers?
Well it's a good start (how come it isn't in my datagrid user guide?) but you still get left with a light coloured one pixel wide line (leftHilite) to the left of each column header that 'spoils' the vanilla effect I'm looking for. If there was some way to target this graphic through the dgProps (either by setting its colour or hiding it) then I think we'd be there. Cheers, Terry... On 25/08/10 6:28 PM, zryip theSlug zryip.thes...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 5:44 AM, Terry Judd t...@unimelb.edu.au wrote: I'd like to be able to have simple lines (i.e. no 3D effect) of a specified color between my datagrid column headers. Is this doable? Terry... Hi Terry, Is the: set the dgProps[header divider color] of tMyDatagrid to tMyNewColor do the trick? Regards, -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Datagrid: simple (non-3D) column header dividers?
Brute force method... on toggleDGHeaderLeftHilite pDGname, pVis put the long id of grp dgHeaderComponents of grp pDGname into tObj repeat with i = 1 to the number of controls of tObj if the short name of control i of tObj = leftHilite then set the visible of control i of tObj to pVis end if end repeat end toggleDGHeaderLeftHilite Terry... On 25/08/10 8:27 PM, Terry Judd t...@unimelb.edu.au wrote: Well it's a good start (how come it isn't in my datagrid user guide?) but you still get left with a light coloured one pixel wide line (leftHilite) to the left of each column header that 'spoils' the vanilla effect I'm looking for. If there was some way to target this graphic through the dgProps (either by setting its colour or hiding it) then I think we'd be there. Cheers, Terry... On 25/08/10 6:28 PM, zryip theSlug zryip.thes...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 5:44 AM, Terry Judd t...@unimelb.edu.au wrote: I'd like to be able to have simple lines (i.e. no 3D effect) of a specified color between my datagrid column headers. Is this doable? Terry... Hi Terry, Is the: set the dgProps[header divider color] of tMyDatagrid to tMyNewColor do the trick? Regards, -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Datagrid: simple (non-3D) column header dividers?
Excellent - thanks! Terry... On 25/08/2010, at 9:48 PM, zryip theSlug zryip.thes...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Terry Judd t...@unimelb.edu.au wrote: Well it's a good start (how come it isn't in my datagrid user guide?) but you still get left with a light coloured one pixel wide line (leftHilite) to the left of each column header that 'spoils' the vanilla effect I'm looking for. If there was some way to target this graphic through the dgProps (either by setting its colour or hiding it) then I think we'd be there. Cheers, Terry... You can manage this pixel line with: set the dgProps[header divider threeD color] of grp MyDataGrid to tTheColor header divider color and header divider threeD color are undocumented. Regards, -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Datagrid: simple (non-3D) column header dividers?
I'd like to be able to have simple lines (i.e. no 3D effect) of a specified color between my datagrid column headers. Is this doable? Terry... -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANNOYANCE] Custom protocols that are not registered do not trigger browserBeforeNavigate correctly on windows.
Thanks Andre, that sounds very promising. I'll give it a whirl. Terry... On 9/08/10 10:55 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Terry, I believe that this can be fixed by using client side javascript only. By fixed I mean restore that behaviour. If you specify an action that is a javascript function and in that function you assemble your parameters in a url and set the window.location of the running page, it should trigger browserBeforeNavigate with the URL from the js function and your parameters there. This should work on both windows and mac os x and it is quite an elegant solution. Andre On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Terry Judd t...@unimelb.edu.au wrote: What's really annoying is that you used to be able to grab data from form elements using browserBeforeNavigate - the values of the form elements would be reported in the url variable, even if no action was ascribed to the form. This was really useful as you could use a webform to capture some user entered data, intercept it with browserBeforeNavigate, process and/or store it in Rev and then do some other stuff - in some cases removing the need for server-side logic or cookies (for example, I used it to store and retrieve student's quiz answers submitted during a session). This still works in OSX (you just have to parse some 'garbage' off the front of the URL) but broke in one of the earlier versions of the revBrowser externals for Windows. AFAIA, it still works with the original altBrowser external. I reported this some time ago (more than 3 years) but it was never fixed and my original bug report has disappeared. I for one would like to see this feature reinstated. Anyone else? On 8/08/10 9:50 AM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Folks, Sometimes do you want to create some fancy interface using RevBrowser and want to communicate back with the stack that hosts the RevBrowsr view. One quick way of doing this is to use custom protocols (so that you know that url is yours) such as: myapp:refreshGui myapp:executeHandler/doStuff For example, some construct like: a href=myapp:refreshGuiClick here to Refresh GUI/a When that link is clicked, you could use a browserBeforeNavigate handler such as this one: on browserBeforeNavigate pID, pURL set the itemdel to : if word 1 of pURL is myapp then -- our protocol! switch word 2 of pURL case refreshGui refreshGui break end switch put true into browserCancel end if end browserBeforeNavigate This of course works great on Mac OS X and you can create your own browser windows that trigger things back with no problem and you don't mix http://or other protocols with your own, very elegant. Now on Windows land (damn you Redmond!!!) things are different. It appears that browserBeforeNavigate is only triggered afted IE renderer inspects the URL. When it finds out a custom protocol, it checks to know if the system can handle it. If you are using your own and haven't fiddled with Windows Registry to register it, that check will fail and IE will change the damn URL for you pointing to a internal windows dll page showing something like: Hey Fella, I don't know how to handle this! which of course is an exercise in patience since my own browserBeforeNavigate will prevent IE from even trying to handle my own protocol. This is not a RevBrowser BUG per se since RevBrowser is not doing anything, it is IE again in its infinite wisdom trying to do things for you (which it shouldn't). The only solution in these case is to add lots of Registry information, registering your own protocol, which will probably make windows try to relaunch your standalone for every of those links. Damn, microsoft always makes my life harder! Andre -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANNOYANCE] Custom protocols that are not registered do not trigger browserBeforeNavigate correctly on windows.
What's really annoying is that you used to be able to grab data from form elements using browserBeforeNavigate - the values of the form elements would be reported in the url variable, even if no action was ascribed to the form. This was really useful as you could use a webform to capture some user entered data, intercept it with browserBeforeNavigate, process and/or store it in Rev and then do some other stuff - in some cases removing the need for server-side logic or cookies (for example, I used it to store and retrieve student's quiz answers submitted during a session). This still works in OSX (you just have to parse some 'garbage' off the front of the URL) but broke in one of the earlier versions of the revBrowser externals for Windows. AFAIA, it still works with the original altBrowser external. I reported this some time ago (more than 3 years) but it was never fixed and my original bug report has disappeared. I for one would like to see this feature reinstated. Anyone else? On 8/08/10 9:50 AM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Folks, Sometimes do you want to create some fancy interface using RevBrowser and want to communicate back with the stack that hosts the RevBrowsr view. One quick way of doing this is to use custom protocols (so that you know that url is yours) such as: myapp:refreshGui myapp:executeHandler/doStuff For example, some construct like: a href=myapp:refreshGuiClick here to Refresh GUI/a When that link is clicked, you could use a browserBeforeNavigate handler such as this one: on browserBeforeNavigate pID, pURL set the itemdel to : if word 1 of pURL is myapp then -- our protocol! switch word 2 of pURL case refreshGui refreshGui break end switch put true into browserCancel end if end browserBeforeNavigate This of course works great on Mac OS X and you can create your own browser windows that trigger things back with no problem and you don't mix http://or other protocols with your own, very elegant. Now on Windows land (damn you Redmond!!!) things are different. It appears that browserBeforeNavigate is only triggered afted IE renderer inspects the URL. When it finds out a custom protocol, it checks to know if the system can handle it. If you are using your own and haven't fiddled with Windows Registry to register it, that check will fail and IE will change the damn URL for you pointing to a internal windows dll page showing something like: Hey Fella, I don't know how to handle this! which of course is an exercise in patience since my own browserBeforeNavigate will prevent IE from even trying to handle my own protocol. This is not a RevBrowser BUG per se since RevBrowser is not doing anything, it is IE again in its infinite wisdom trying to do things for you (which it shouldn't). The only solution in these case is to add lots of Registry information, registering your own protocol, which will probably make windows try to relaunch your standalone for every of those links. Damn, microsoft always makes my life harder! Andre -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [RevServer tips] Spreading the load or why wise developers use asynchronous workflows
So, just to be clear, are you guys saying that even in a desktop app it's not safe to use revDB calls to a networked mySQL server and that all database calls should be done via PHP (or whatever)? Regards, Terry... On 5/08/10 7:47 AM, Devin Asay devin_a...@byu.edu wrote: Jan, Jeff, Andre, So is it okay to have irev scripts that are on the same server as the DB make the requests? Or are you just saying you should only submit DB queries from localhost? (In MySQL terms, the difference between 'localhost' access and '%' access, for example.) Of course, when doing DB access from Rev standalone apps, the only way it can be done is if the DB allows non-local access, through some port. If I understand you correctly, you're saying it is a Bad Idea to have an irev or php script query a DB from another server. Just trying to make sure I understand the context. I'm a desktop guy who is doing more and more with revServer and the web environment, and I'd like to avoid having my server nuked. Regards, Devin On Aug 4, 2010, at 2:26 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: Jan, Will write a piece on this shortly, this is a big no no no! my lib RevSpark was created to serve exactly that situation where you need to be able to create simple CGIs that do not require complex views and stuff. I created it specifically to serve as an easy way to built RESTful services for database interaction. http://hg.andregarzia.com/revspark :D On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Jeff Massung mass...@gmail.com wrote: Never, ever, ever do this. ;-) It's basically asking for someone to hack - and nuke - your database out from under you. You never want to connect to it remotely, and you never want to send SQL commands to it directly. Use an intermediate layer. For example, have a server process that accepts incoming connections and [indirect] commands that will end up modifying the database. But that process is capable of doing a lot of security checks: - Logins + permissions - DOS attack checks - Ensure validity of actions - Much more... The 3rd one there is probably most important. Instead of having a remote app send direct SQL commands to a remotely hosted database, you create action commands that end up performing the correct SQL under-the-hood. This has *many* advantages: - Clients have no direct access to the database (which may hold the data for many clients) - You can change your data schema without a client ever knowing, and no application updates are required. - The data storage method is hidden from potential hackers. - Much more... Jeff M. On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Hi Jan. Is accessing your database directly from a remote location taboo? I'm developing an app that does exactly that! Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mousemove, Optionkey and Windows
On 3/08/10 11:46 PM, ron barber runrev...@gmail.com wrote: Terry, were you testing on a windows machine or emulation or some sort? Hi Ron - I'm running Windows under VMWare Fusion. Terry... -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mousemove, Optionkey and Windows
Hi Ron - confirmed here on XP (works fine on OSX). Interestingly it will report 'down' if you click the mouse and then correctly reports 'up' when you release the key - without clicking the mouse this time. ControlKey seems to work as advertised. Looks like a bug to me. Terry... On 3/08/10 1:01 PM, ron barber runrev...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings I encountered a problem and would appreciate confirmation and a work around if needed. The problem is: the state of the optionkey is not reported in a mousemove handler on windows (tried on 7 only) Simply create a new stack with a single fld. Set the script of the fld to on mousemove put the optionkey end mousemove this always reports up in my cases but perhaps something else is going on. Thanks Ron ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Possible BUG] Can someone confirm that calling RevBrowserClose with wrong id will crash app in MacOS X
Hi Andre - no problem here. I just get an error message... External execution error: Error description: unknown browser id Rev 4.5.0-dp-3, OSX 10.6.4 Terry... On 27/07/10 7:32 AM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Hello, Can someone confirm that calling RevBrowserClose with wrong id will crash app in MacOS X? Here on 4.5.0-dp-3 if I call RevBrowserClose with a bad id it will lock the process and die. :-/ silly external... -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Tips for multi-stack app?
Jeff - not sure what's going on there (have you checked the defaultStack property just prior to the problems occurring in the newWidget handler to make sure that it's still set correctly?). Sometimes I think it's just easier to add the stack info to your object references so you don't need to keep track of where you are when you pass messages from stack to stack. Terry... On 22/07/10 2:09 PM, Jeff Massung mass...@gmail.com wrote: I must be missing something, because I just can't get this to work. I've independently created two different stacks, with the intent of one using the other one at a later time. I've done this so that I can update one without affecting the other, and patching would be simpler (I hope), and might even be possible on the fly without having to shutdown the app. Now, each stack on its own works just fine. No problems. But, when I want stack A to modelessly open stack B and send some commands to the controls of stack B, suddenly nothing works. For example: -- from stack A send newWidget to group Editor of stack B This command sends just fine, but the handler (which works fine) fails in the middle because it references other controls on stack B: copy group Widget into ... And this fails because (I think) Rev is looking for group Widget on stack A and not stack B - where the handler is executing. Then I come across the defaultStack property, and because calling the newWidget handler, I set that to be stack B. Seems fine, except the handler still has the same problem. Any suggestions for me? I have to think this is a very common thing. Thanks! Jeff M. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Code signing Windows executables
Does anyone do this for Rev applications, and if so can they provide some pointers? We're looking to distribute some software to students on a USB stick and some of the computer labs around the traps have a policy of not allowing apps to run from removable drives. However, they say that they will make an exception for digitally signed apps, so... TIA, Terry... -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drag and Drop on revBrowser...
Try using the browserBeforeNavigate message instead. Terry... On 25/06/10 6:36 AM, Simon Lord sl...@karbonized.com wrote: What I meant by *nothing* is that even the browserNavigateComplete is only sent/registered if the mouse exits the revBrowser. If I don't move the mouse, or I stay with the revBrowser then the messages get queued up. When I exit the revBrowser I get a few dozen beeps and url refreshes. This feature is surely broke. on browserNavigateComplete pId, pUrl beep forceRefreshURL end browserNavigateComplete On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Simon Lord sl...@marelina.com wrote: I even have a beep message being sent. Nothing. I also tried to capture the browserClick but it never works. At all. I'm running 10.6.4this is starting to smell like a bug I cannot work around. On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com wrote: Works every time here. What OS? You're sure your cursor-move code is executing each time. Admittedly, a complete hack of a solution. Shameful, really. Ok, I'm over it. Best, Jerry Daniels Follow the Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves On Jun 24, 2010, at 3:11 PM, Simon Lord wrote: Tried that. Odd that it works for you. It only works the first time for me, every subsequent link still refuses to update the URL until the mouse exits the revBrowser. On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com wrote: Simon, I ran into this with Rodeo's built-in browser and I found a way to make my URL field update after navigating to another page--which sounds a lot like your problem. put the mouseScreenLoc into tLoc set the mouseScreenLoc to the topleft of this stack set the mouseScreenLoc to tLoc This was on Mac Snow Leopard. I could not tell the cursor was moved and my URL field updated immediately. I did ran this cde within the browserNavigateComplete message. handler HTH Best, Jerry Daniels Follow the Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves On Jun 24, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Simon Lord wrote: So the issue of not updating the URL until the mouse leaves the revBrowser is a bit of a pain. When I drag an image from the desktop to the stack the image immediately pops up in the browser as expected. But the URL doesn't upload until the mouse is *outside* the bounds of the browser. Since the mouse *must* be within the bounds to drop the image it means this is a fairly repeatable bug. Is there any way to detect a dragdrop on the revBrowser so I can force a URL refresh? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry Health Sciences The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revBrowser + youtube.com = Crashing?
I've only got a virtual machine to test on (Fusion) but I can confirm the crash with YouTube (Explorer 7, XP SP3) but only after upgrading Flash to 10.1. Terry... On 25/06/10 3:10 AM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: Hi List: I'm wondering if a few folks with Windows systems wouldn't mind doing a simple Rev test. Run the browser sample stack that ships with Rev (C/Program Files/Revolution Enterprise/4.0.0-gm-1/Resources/Examples/Browser Sampler.rev) launch the demo browser from the button on the first card, and navigate to www.youtube.com. Over here on 3 separate systems, Rev crashes when accessing this URL. The Rev folks are apparently unable to reproduce the problem. Can anyone else? Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry Health Sciences The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Discover browsers on user system
On 24/06/10 11:22 AM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: Recently, Simon Lord wrote: Any way to immediately know which browsers are installed on the user's system and drop those into a menu? Same thing for image editors if possible. It's funny, I remember using scripts like a decade ago to retrieve the *default* Web browser, but Rev's goURL and launch commands have obviated the need for this and it's been so long I don't recall the scripts I used to do it (good times...). :-) To automatically get a list of installed browsers or image editors seems difficult since I believe the system only cares about the defaults established by the user (even then, so many apps on OS X are not officially installed, just placed). Several Web development tools I have allow you to assign multiple apps as defaults for testing purposes, but aside from a plugin installer that walks through system directories, I've never seen a tool that automatically knows what suitable apps are installed. Maybe someone else has an option. I guess under OSX you could try setting the defaultFolder to the Applications folder and parsing the files and the folders for likely candidates. Wouldn't be too hard for browsers but might be tricky for image editors once you go past the obvious candidates. Terry... Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry Health Sciences The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: File browser extension
You can use files() and folders() to get a list of files and folders in the default directory and then create a combined listing based on this. If you're happy enough using generic folder and file icons then it's fairly trivial (a tabbed field with the file and folder icons set using the imagesource property). If you want the icons to reflect the file type/extension then it's more complicated (you really need an external for this). Terry... On 22/06/10 10:31 AM, Simon Lord sl...@karbonized.com wrote: Close. What I'm looking for is a field list that shows you all the files and folders in the stacks current directory. With graphical representations of files and folders. User can simply click the folder(s) disclosure icons to expand the view to see what's inside or doubleclick to display only the contents of that folder. So *not* the answer file. Just a browsable list field that looks and acts kinda like the column list view in OSX finder or the file browser as seen in Panic's CODA application. http://panic.com/coda/ The first screenshot at the bottom will give you the idea of what I'm looking for. On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: It sounds like you want the folder of the chosen file so: answer file Choose a file... put it into thePath set the itemdelimiter to / -- for macs. use \ for windows paths delete the last item of thePath Bob On Jun 21, 2010, at 5:12 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Simon, Do you mean the answer file command? You might want to look it up in the dictionary. sample: answer file Choose a file... -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Subscribe to the Economy-x-Talk newsletter at http://qurl.tk/cj Download Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com and share the clipboard of your computer over the local network. On 22 jun 2010, at 01:44, Simon Lord wrote: I'm wondering out loud if someone has written a file system browser extension. I'm not in the mood to write one myself (remembering my prior experience with this). Just looking for something I can drop into my stack that allows the end user to browse their system looking for images and pass me the result. If it's brain dead easy in RunRev then I'll proudly wear egg on my face (but please point to samples). ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry Health Sciences The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2 quick questions
Mark - put the following handler in the stack script on preopencard if there is a fld cardNumberField then put the number of this cd into fld cardNumberField end if end preopencard If the target field is definitely on all the cards then you'd just need on preopencard put the number of this cd into fld cardNumberField end preopencard HTH, Terry... On 16/06/10 12:21 PM, Mark Smith mark_sm...@cpe.umanitoba.ca wrote: HI Mark, I was all excited until I realized i didn't know where to put it. Here is what I want to do: I want to put the number of the current card into a field or label on the card so I know where I am in the stack. Where would I put this line put the number of this cd into field cardnumberfield thanks -- M Mark Smith From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Mark Schonewille [m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 9:33 AM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: 2 quick questions Mark, put the number of this cd put the number of the current cd put the number of this cd of stack Foo put the number of the current cd of stack Foo I think there is a FAQ on the RunRev homepage but probably it isn't what you're looking for. I'd be happy to host a FAQ on runrev.info if we (the list) can agree on what should be included in such a FAQ. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Subscribe to the Economy-x-Talk newsletter at http://qurl.tk/cj Download Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com and share the clipboard of your computer over the local network. On 15 jun 2010, at 15:53, Mark Smith wrote: 1. How can I get the number of the current card (and put it into a field or variable)? Related: since I am reading a property from an object will the solution to this problem generalize to all properties for all objects? 2. Has someone compiled a FAQ from this mailing list and where can I find it. Thanks Mark Smith ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry Health Sciences The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: pop-up cascading menus
On 16/06/10 1:59 PM, Gabel Paul paulga...@comcast.net wrote: Dear List members: On a Mac with Rev 4.0, it appears not to be possible to have cascading menus in an option button/menu. I can have them in a pop-up button/menu, but it doesn't look anywhere near as nice. I tried superimposing an option button over a pop-up button and sending a command to the pop-up, but that won't work either. Does anyone know of a work-around so that I can have option's looks with pop-up's functionality? Also, WHY can't the rev team create an option button with cascading menus? Thanks for all advice. Probably because it contravenes HIG 'rules' ;) However, if you really want to go down this path then you could try the following... # create an option menu with its text sent to empty (let's call this btn option) # create a popup menu with its text set to your cascading menus (let's call this btn popup) # set the script of btn option to the following... on mouseDown popup btn popup at the bottomLeft of me end mouseDown # set the script of btn popup to the following... on menuPick pItem set the itemDel to | set the label of btn option to last item of pItem -- add routines related to menu selection here end menuPick You might want to fiddle with the location at which the popup btn appears a bit (try adding a pixel or two to the y co-ordinate). HTH, Terry... Paul Gabel paulga...@comcast.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry Health Sciences The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sizing Columns to Fit
On 9/06/10 7:31 AM, Gregory Lypny gregory.ly...@videotron.ca wrote: Hello everyone, When I import tab-delimited data files, I'd like to be able to set the tab stops in a field so that each column displays its entire contents the way a spreadsheet does when you size-to-fit. It's easy to loop through the lines of the file to find the maximum number of characters in each column, but I'm not sure how to convert that to tab stops in pixels. Any tips? Check out the dictionary entry for formattedWidth. If you're using a fixed width font then all you need to do is find the maximum length of each column and get the formatted width of the first word of that length. If not then do the same and then add a few pixels just to be safe. Terry... Gregory ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry Health Sciences The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: iTunes style titlebar
Sounds like a job for either a custom window shape or, if you're happy with a window with square top corners, a window with the decorations set to empty and a faked titlebar. Here's a script I use for dragging a custom window around by its 'titlebar' that constrains the upper and lower limits of the drag (watch out for line wraps) local pDown, pXOffset, pYOffset, pT, pB on mouseEnter put false into pDown end mouseEnter on mouseDown put true into pDown put the mouseH into pXOffset put the mouseV into pYOffset put the screenRect into tRect if platform() = MacOS then put 20 into pT put item 4 of tRect - 28 into pB else put 0 into pT put item 4 of tRect - 63 into pB end if end mouseDown on mouseUp put false into pDown end mouseUp on mouseRelease put false into pDown end mouseRelease on mouseMove x,y if pDown then put x-pXOffset into tX put y-pYOffset into tY put globalLoc((tX,tY)) into tTL set the topleft of this stack to (item 1 of tTL,min(max(pT,item 2 of tTL),pB)) end if end mouseMove HTH, Terry... On 9/06/10 1:57 PM, Simon Lord sl...@karbonized.com wrote: Is it possible to *assign* a style that mimics the thickness of the iTunes.app? The CODA application has the same thickness (~120px high). I couldn't do it so I figured I'd just trap the mouse position and drag the window when the user clicks on the space just below the titlebar (in order to simulate a thicker titlebar). It works great, but the bugger drags the whole app right off the top of the screen. Mac OS apps don't allow the titlebar to be dragged under the OS menu and now I have a few options: 1) Does RunRev support a thinker title bar that we can mount icons onto etc. (like CODA, iTunes...) 2) Properly detect the top of the stack and exit script before user drags stack under OS X system menu bar (tried, doesn't work) I'd be happy with any solution where the *feel* of OS X integrity is upheld. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry Health Sciences The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Avoiding Global Variables - revUp 93
On 8/06/10 3:51 AM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: In the cases where you have absolute control over the environment, then, you can use globals as a simple way of sharing data structures. Usually for these cases it is better to create a single global as an array and write to a single variable, this makes debugging easier. Better to have a single array with 50 entries than 50 globals. A single global as an array supplemented by script locals works well for me. Terry... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: To keep the selection of a textfield visible while the focus is on another control?
On 6/06/10 12:02 AM, G. Wolfgang Gaich gwolfg...@gaich.de wrote: One way I tested was to store the selectedChunk in a custom property on selectionchanged and when the user has entered the textsize in the combobox and presses return or enter the textsize and the selection for the selectedchunk (I stored in the custom property) of the field is set. But there is a period of time the user doesn't see his selection in the textfield. Is there a way to keep the selection of a textfield visible while the focus is on another control? Hi Wolfgang - You can use the backcolor to achieve an 'authentic' selection effect... Set the backcolor of [chunk expression] to the hiliteColor Terry... -- Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry Health Sciences The University of Melbourne Thank you very much in advance. Wolfgang ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: To keep the selection of a textfield visible while the focus is on another control?
On 6/06/10 11:38 AM, G.Wolfgang Gaich gwolfg...@gaich.de wrote: Hello Terry, thank you for the tip. But if I set the backcolor for the selectedchunk, blank lines are not affected like they are when the user select several lines. Yes, I'm a bit fussy when I build an UI. Yes - that's clearly a deficiency of the backcolor approach. There are other methods you could probably try (using overlaid snapshots based on the formattedRect for example) but they are out and out hacks. Terry... -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry Health Sciences The University of Melbourne Wolfgang Am 06.06.2010 00:17, schrieb Terry Judd: On 6/06/10 12:02 AM, G. Wolfgang Gaichgwolfg...@gaich.de wrote: One way I tested was to store the selectedChunk in a custom property on selectionchanged and when the user has entered the textsize in the combobox and presses return or enter the textsize and the selection for the selectedchunk (I stored in the custom property) of the field is set. But there is a period of time the user doesn't see his selection in the textfield. Is there a way to keep the selection of a textfield visible while the focus is on another control? Hi Wolfgang - You can use the backcolor to achieve an 'authentic' selection effect... Set the backcolor of [chunk expression] to the hiliteColor Terry... -- Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry Health Sciences The University of Melbourne Thank you very much in advance. Wolfgang ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: inconsistent field appearance
Could you do a spot of preliminary 'image analysis' on a field containing a standard lowercase letter. By programatically moving the mouse (I guess you can do this with the cursor hidden) and querying the mouseColor you could determine the actual height of the character on the target platform and adjust the distance between the two lines accordingly. There's sure to be an easier way. Terry... On 1/06/10 8:10 PM, Nicolas Cueto nicon...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Nicolas - can you provide a screengrab of how the problem manifests Here are the screengrabs Terry suggested I post: Vista view 1 -- http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxzIo9J Vista view 2 -- http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxzIqES XP view 1 -- http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxzIt90 XP view 2 -- http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxzIlFA The first two (Vista) are what I'm expecting. I.e., the minuscules are between the guide lines. The second two (XP) show the problem. I.e., the letters have become larger and so go over the guide lines. To repeat, all the font settings are manually cleared and reset by a script. And the jpgs show that both XP and Vista stack versions show the correct font, albeit at the wrong size. Hope that illustrates the problem. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: inconsistent field appearance
On 2/06/10 4:02 AM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: How are you positioning the guidelines? Can you use the formattedRect property of an offscreen field to determine the correct positions? I think that would give you the same height value irrespective of the font or case your using. Terry... Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design Recently, Nicolas Cueto wrote: Hi Nicolas - can you provide a screengrab of how the problem manifests Here are the screengrabs Terry suggested I post: Vista view 1 -- http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxzIo9J Vista view 2 -- http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxzIqES XP view 1 -- http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxzIt90 XP view 2 -- http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxzIlFA The first two (Vista) are what I'm expecting. I.e., the minuscules are between the guide lines. The second two (XP) show the problem. I.e., the letters have become larger and so go over the guide lines. To repeat, all the font settings are manually cleared and reset by a script. And the jpgs show that both XP and Vista stack versions show the correct font, albeit at the wrong size. Hope that illustrates the problem. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: inconsistent field appearance
If you were prepared to set the height of the 'tramlines' dynamically then you could use the following function to return the appropriate value based on the true height of a visible lowercase z of the relevant font and size (the test character must be visible as the function relies on the mouseColor). Watch out for line wraps. Terry... put the formattedRect of [chunk expression for target character] into tRect put zHeight(tRect) into tHeight -- insert some routine to separate the 'tramlines' by tHeight function zHeight pRect put the mouseLoc into tM put round((item 1 of pRect + item 3 of pRect)/2) into tX put into tColorData lock screen repeat with i = (item 2 of pRect) to (item 4 of pRect) set the screenMouseLoc to globalLoc((tX,i)) put icommamouseColor() cr after tColorData end repeat filter tColorData with *,0,0,0 -- black points only put (item 1 of line -1 of tColorData)-(item 1 of line 1 of tColorData)+2 set the screenMouseLoc to globalLoc(tM) unlock screen return ((item 1 of line -1 of tColorData)-(item 1 of line 1 of tColorData)+2) end zHeight On 2/06/10 8:10 AM, Nicolas Cueto nicon...@gmail.com wrote: How are you positioning the guidelines? The guidelines don't get positioned each time. I positioned them once during initial development and that's it. In more detail, I put the text in the field, drew the two lines, then manually nudged the lines until they looked in the right place, and finally locked their positions. Can you use the formattedRect property of an offscreen field to determine the correct positions? Didn't know about that property. I'll try. Could you do a spot of preliminary 'image analysis' Thanks Terry, but that's way beyond what I'm up to. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: inconsistent field appearance
Hi Nicolas - can you provide a screengrab of how the problem manifests and what you are trying to achieve so we can get an idea of whether you might be able to craft a solution that is reliable independent of whatever font/computer combination you use? Terry... On 1/06/10 11:57 AM, Nicolas Cueto nicon...@gmail.com wrote: My case is not one of those. The field-object font is intended for young EFL learners, with that field-object overlayed by two parallel line-objects serving to hilite the correct letter placement of majuscules and minuscules. And from long classroom experience, that 2-3 millimetre difference I'm seeing on Vista vs. XP is a difference that the kids too will note and, problematically so in the case of some learner types, internalise. Which in a way accounts too for why I avoid inflicting my whiteboard chicken-scrawl on impressionable young Japanese minds. ^_^ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[Datagrid] Truncating items
Is it my imagination or is there some automatic way of truncating items that are too long to fully display within a column that replaces the extra characters with an ellipsis? Terry... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Datagrid] Truncating items
On 28/05/10 1:02 AM, Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.com wrote: On May 27, 2010, at 5:41 AM, Terry Judd wrote: Is it my imagination or is there some automatic way of truncating items that are too long to fully display within a column that replaces the extra characters with an ellipsis? This lesson has an example showing how to truncate text. The Data Grid has a built-in command called TruncateTail. http://lessons.runrev.com/spaces/lessons/manuals/datagrid/lessons/7327-How-Do- I-Override-the-Default-Behavior-For-Rendering-Data-to-a-Cell- That's it. Thanks Trevor. Terry... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Datagrid border colour setting?
On 26/05/10 6:08 PM, zryip theSlug zryip.thes...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/5/26 Terry Judd t...@unimelb.edu.au Does anyone know if there is a setting to change the border colour (both the header and the 'body') of a datagrid? Trevor? Hi Terry, A Data Grid is a group, so you can change its color like other group. Example: set the borderColor of grp myDataGrid to red Hey thanks - that's a good start but doesn't pickup the bottom border of the header. Terry... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Datagrid border colour setting?
On 26/05/10 8:18 PM, zryip theSlug zryip.thes...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/5/26 Terry Judd t...@unimelb.edu.au On 26/05/10 6:08 PM, zryip theSlug zryip.thes...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/5/26 Terry Judd t...@unimelb.edu.au Does anyone know if there is a setting to change the border colour (both the header and the 'body') of a datagrid? Trevor? Hi Terry, A Data Grid is a group, so you can change its color like other group. Example: set the borderColor of grp myDataGrid to red Hey thanks - that's a good start but doesn't pickup the bottom border of the header. Terry... Ok, as far as I know there is no standard function for doing that in the Data Grid. So a solution consists to set the object color directly by code. The name of the bottom header of a data grid is: dgHeaderBottomBorder put red into tTheColor set the bordercolor of grp myDataGrid to tTheColor put the long id of group dgHeaderMask of group dgHeaderComponents of grp myDataGrid into theHeaderGroup set the foregroundColor of grc dgHeaderBottomBorder of theHeaderGroup to tTheColor Regards, OK, thanks for sniffing out the relevant object for me. Might be nice to have to be able to set this via the property inspector along with all the other datagrid colour properties. Cheers, Terry... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Datagrid border colour setting?
On 27/05/10 6:03 AM, Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.com wrote: On May 25, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Terry Judd wrote: Does anyone know if there is a setting to change the border colour (both the header and the 'body') of a datagrid? Trevor? set the dgProps[border color] of the data grid to a color. This property isn't in the docs but I will add it in. The getProp isn't hooked up for it either but I've addressed that for 4.5. Excellent! Terry... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Datagrid border colour setting?
Does anyone know if there is a setting to change the border colour (both the header and the 'body') of a datagrid? Trevor? Terry... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Editing Text Selections?
Hi Scott - not sure whether it's the accepted way but it's what I've done in the past. If you can get by with buttons and menus for your editing selections then you wont have to go down this road but if you must have fields then I can't think of a viable alternative. Terry... On 25/05/10 1:25 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: Sorry for posting what I'm sure is a beaten-horse topic, but I feel like I'm reinventing the wheel here and am under a deadline... Since Rev is incapable of maintaining multiple text selections, is the proper way to create a text editor (ie: select some text in a field, and for example, set the size of the text using another field) to create an artificial selection of the selected text? In the list archives, I read the technique of setting the backColor of the selected text so that it appears to remain selected while focus changes to fields in the editor. Is this the accepted way to go about setting up a text editor? I'm asking because it's seems like a fragile arrangement, easy to generate errors based on when text is actually selected versus when it's not. I just wanted to make sure that this is the right method to use before I go too far in this direction. Hope this makes sense -- thanks in advance for any suggestions/confirmations/rejections. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Weird stack name
On 12/05/10 1:54 PM, Marty Knapp martykn...@comcast.net wrote: Well I opened the app in TextWrangler, but couldn't find anything . . . I have some printing handlers, but nothing that remotely contains the mystery name. Did you try a spotlight search? Terry... Michael Kann wrote: Marty, I would take a look at all the readable strings in your standalone binary. Find the Macintosh version of this type of Windows program: http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/Programming/textscan/Freeware.htm The string must be in there somewhere. I was thinking the same. Marty, you can just open the stack in BBEdit or any text editor. If that string isn't there, do you have any printing handlers? Seems like the name is related to that. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: export snapshot transparent?
You could copy the word you want to create an image of into a transparent (non-opaque) field, resize it to fit the text (using formattedWidth and formattedHeight), then use the import snapshot command to create an image object. This will retain the transparency and you can do whatever you want with it from there (e.g. Export it in whatever format or use it within Rev). HTH, Terry... On 11/05/10 11:43 AM, Nicolas Cueto nicon...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, To convert into transparent images (PNG or GIF) each of the words in a word-list, I am thinking of using Rev's export snapshot thus: put elephant into tNewWordEnglish put adjustFieldSizeToWordLength(tNewWordEnglish) into tNewRect set the rect of field exportEnglish to tNewRect put tNewWordEnglish into field exportEnglish export snapshot from rect tNewRect of window tWIS to file tPath as PNG put zousan into tNewWordJapanese ... Obviously this isn't going to result in a transparent image but, is there a way of configuring things so that it might? Thank you. (And if you're wondering why export the words as images instead of simply relying on text-fields... to ensure young Japanese learners see font-wise what their teacher rather than the OS's limitations intended. I realize there's revFontLoad, but long painful experience teaches me to not rely on how Rev and Windows-on-Japanese-PCs interact font-wise. Even today, despite running the latest version of Rev on the latest Windows OS, when coding in Rev my fingers automatically adjust to Rev's imaginary keyboard layout rather than the actual physical keyboard layout of my Japanese machine.) -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Strange results in deletion of lines
David - unless you have huge numbers of lines it's probably easiest to just use the filter command. filter tHold without F* The reason your repeat method isn't working is that tCount is only valid until the first deletion takes place So either use... repeat with j = tCount down to 1 if char 1 of line j of tHold is F then delete line j of tHold end repeat Or use the repeat for each form and build a new list as you go... put empty into tList repeat for each line tID in tHold if char 1 of tID is F then put tID cr after tList end repeat delete last char of tList -- removes the trailing CR HTH, Terry... On 11/05/10 12:34 PM, David C. davidoco...@gmail.com wrote: Hey folks, I've run into something weird again (at least it seems weird to me) and need some help. I have a variable named tHold that contains the following (targeted) lines of text among many others: FB460V-CS05 FD620DCS26 FD751VAS00 FE290DDS00 FE290DES17 FE400DES03 FH381VAS29R FH430VBT25M What I'm trying to do is to delete any line that begins with F and the working code looks something like this: put the number of lines in tHold into tCount repeat with j = 1 to tCount if character 1 of line j of tHold = F then delete line j of tHold end repeat For some reason that I cannot detect, it removes only 4 of the eight potential lines that are targeted although they all clearly begin with an F. I've checked and double-checked my sample data to make sure there are not any spaces preceding the F character for each. Ideas? Better method? Best regards, David C. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: export snapshot transparent?
On 11/05/10 12:42 PM, Nicolas Cueto nicon...@gmail.com wrote: Terry, thank you for pointing out import snapshot. It almost worked. Problem is outerGlow is lost during import. In the original text-field, I use outerGlow to add fuzziness to the edges of letters. Tried to get around this by setting the outerGlow of the imported image the same as the text-field and then exporting. But, the exported image too loses the graphic effect. Is there a way around this too? If you want to maintain the transparency then apparently not. You might be able to fashion a solution in Rev if you use import or export snapshot to grab the relevant part of the screen this retains the graphic effect but gives you an opaque background. Use a white background and convert your field coordinates to screen coords using globalLoc before you take your snapshot, then when you've got your snapshot in Rev apply an appropriate ink effect to it to render the background transparent (blendMultiply might do it for you). HTH, Terry... -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Strange results in deletion of lines
On 11/05/10 1:06 PM, David C. davidoco...@gmail.com wrote: David - unless you have huge numbers of lines it's probably easiest to just use the filter command. filter tHold without F* The list is currently running almost 30,000 lines and this is just the first stage of the required processing, so I'll try the other approaches that you and Nicolas have offered. David - if you have that many lines and you need to run each line though a number of processes then I'd definitely use the repeat for each form. Terry... When you delete line j of tHold, the number of lines in tHold changes. So, tCount no longer meshes That actually makes a lot of sense now that you mention it... guess I've been overlooking the obvious. Thank you very much to both Terry Nicolas. Best regards, David C. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: export snapshot transparent?
If you need to maintain transparency, the easiest way is to group the things you want to export, with enough margin space to accommodate the glow effects, and export the group. Nice. Terry... Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Newbie question
On 5/05/10 10:46 AM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: I haven't used SC/HC but I do use background groups a lot. I tend to always have a bg group named interface on my projects that holds the common user interface for the app, then using different cards, I just create the modified parts, this way, instead of showing/hiding controls as the interface changes reacting to the user input, I navigate to different cards. Typically my interface group consists of navigation stuff so that the user can access the other cards and status displays so that I have a uniform way of presenting stuff. I like working that way but I don't know how people here work. So this is feedback from someone that never knew HC or SC prior to using RR. I used both HC and SC before Rev and usually work in much the same was as Andre describes. I occasionally do quite complex interfaces with multiples views on a single card (hiding and showing interface groups) but when you're dealing with a large number of controls that can be a pain to edit and debug. Terry... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
httpproxy with username and password?
How do I go about retrieving web data when I need to set the httpproxy AND the proxy server requires a username and password? I've tried appending a username/password combination in front of the IP address (user:p...@someipaddress) but that doesn't seem to work. TIA, Terry... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Question about RevMobile
On 12/04/10 8:47 AM, Mark Swindell mdswind...@cruzio.com wrote: While the iPad is no LaserDisk, it will have to do. :) For educational consumption media (multimedia), the iPad is what was promised 15-20 years before it could be implemented. I think it could prove very, very valuable in education on myriad levels. Unfortunately we are living in an era of broken budgets and cynicism on so many levels when it comes to education. When developers, working with educators, can make a decent living on developing educational software, good software may come. When the interface become obscured enough so teachers and students don't have to spend so much frustration capital problem-solving, when the per unit price point becomes low enough, and when the software and interfaces becomes clever enough, perhaps some universal good will come of it and it's counterparts. I'm hopeful. It will never replace the laptop, but with an added keyboard and pointing device it could certainly do dual service as one... after all, it is a monitor. I still think netbooks offer greater flexibility overall but we're certainly considering iPads for use by medical students in clinical settings. The tablet form seems just about right in that case (no moving parts). I'm very much hoping that the recent iPhone OS licensing changes don't shut Rev out of the picture. Terry... Mark On Apr 11, 2010, at 2:48 PM, René Micout wrote: Le 11 avr. 2010 à 17:40, Richard Gaskin a écrit : In brief, I see the iPad as one of the most powerful an innovative media CONSUMPTION devices ever. But for media AUTHORING, we still have computers. Richard I agree with that. I also think that the usefulness of the iPad has not yet been revealed. For now, the only applications that have been shown are only adjusting the iPhone apps (question of scale) or Macintosh applications tailored to the iPad (question of use). The best is yet to come, at least I hope so. I'm waiting for new programs and it is true that I would like to build them myself. Time will tell if this is possible. René___ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revmobile looking good
Meanwhile, would it be possible to include iPad in the Simulator choices? That script is password protected, so I can't go in and try adding that myself. A couple of days ago (just after the latest revMobile pre-alpha), Apple released beta 5 of the iPhone 3.2 SDK and this is the first version that allows submission of apps using 3.2 which also means the first iPad apps. I would expect that now they have a target, RunRev can link into this and give us an iPad version soon. It's all looking good so far - the ability to test on the iPad simulator, even with the pre-alpha would be great. What I'd like some info on is what sort of controls/interface objects are likely to included in the IDE. I've started creating some replica 'native' controls but don't want to go too far down this path if I don't have too. Terry... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Flipping card (screen)
Check the dictionary entry for 'visual effect'. There are all sorts of transitions available although none of them may give you the sort of 'flip' (page turning?) effect your looking for. Personally I don't mind the dissolve effect - the rest I can leave. Terry... On 16/03/10 11:10 AM, charles61 csz...@mac.com wrote: I have been working on an app for the past eight months. I am in the process of trying to spruce up my opening card that has buttons for the user to choose. My question: How can I get my card to flip with the new side of the card showing the next card? This effect is seen in Pages when the user chooses a new file and the screen flips. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Using the brush tool
I guess you could also set and reset the tool as you enter and leave the paint object. Your tool buttons would then only have to store the tool choice for you to set when you need it... Brush button.. on mouseUp set the cPaintTool of this cd to brush end mouseUp Paint object on mouseEnter do choose the cPaintTool of this cdtool end mouseEnter on mouseLeave choose browse tool end mouseLeave ...or something like that. Terry... On 16/03/10 12:33 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Mike Brown wrote: Do you know what commands sets the cursor from the brush tool back to the normal behavior? The same one you use to change the tool to the brush tool, only specifying the browse tool instead: choose browse tool As for keeping some buttons in browse mode while having paint tools in use, you can try two options: - Try setting the cantSelect of the buttons you want to maintain browse-mode behavior. When that property is set they respond as though they're in browse mode even when the tool is the pointer tool - may work for the brush tool as well. - Have those buttons in a palette stack, limiting your toplevel stack to the painting canvas. For the long term, it would be really great if we could have tool modes for group controls, so you could have a tool pane running in browse mode and a group as your paint canvas, all in one window. There's a request for this, if you feel like it's something worth voting for: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=623 -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Looking for old Revolution Eternal -RevClips
Hi Glen - I've got a copy of the Mac bundle but not the Win DLL. Is that any use? Terry... On 15/03/10 3:00 PM, Glen Bojsza gboj...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was wondering if anyone still has the external Alex Rice did some time ago for CLIPS. It was called revClips (I think). thanks ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cross platform design tool
On 15/03/10 3:54 PM, Randall Reetz rand...@randallreetz.com wrote: I don't want to say yes or no. What I will say is that rev is a great environment for building a tool menu of most types. But the drawing and painting primitives available are a bit 1980s (at least as compared with java and flash). Can't for the life of me figure out why xtalk environments haven't kept pace with graphic engines and protocols. They may not be quite on a par with Flash but they've actually improved quite a bit over the last couple of versions. I was recently asked to add a drawing tool to an electronic health record system we're developing for medical students and I wasn't at all keen on the idea. However, a day or so later I had something that looked and functioned much better than I could have hoped for. Terry... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: dropping to the Finder
If there's a simpler way to accomplish this I'd love to find it, but it would appear that Interarchy (and the many other FTP tools that use drag-and-drop) are getting info from the Finder to know which file to download their data into. On OSX, what about querying the path of the front Finder window just before the drop is made via applescript. Try... Tell application Finder to get (POSIX path of (target of front window as alias)) Although dropping onto the desktop while other windows are open might give you the wrong result and if the drag target is still in the background when you make the drop you're in trouble as well. Terry... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revBrowserExecuteScript problems
Hi Jeff - I haven't tried doing this but given that your script works from the message box have you tried using a send (in time) construct when you receive the browserDocumentComplete message? Terry... On 24/02/10 10:03 AM, Jeffrey Massung mass...@gmail.com wrote: Ugh, I've been at this for *hours* now and I can't seem to see what's different that's causing my issue. Hopefully someone here can point me to the correct solution... I have a revBrowser instance that opens a webpage. Simple. The browserDocumentComplete message gets sent and i receive it just fine. Once the page is loaded I try and execute two javascript functions from the page. All of these script calls fail and throw an exception: 573,47,1,revBrowserExecuteScript However, if I open up the message box and type the _exact same line of code_ (i.e. I copy paste it from the source file into the message box), then it works. I'm hoping there's something really simple here that I'm missing, because this is starting to get a tad frustrating. ;-) Thanks! Jeff M.___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: Andre's house - completely offtopic
I dunno Sarah - I kind of like to sleep in until at least 7 on a Saturday morning. But if you don't mind watching cartoons with my early rising five-year old for an hour or two ;) Terry... On 12/02/10 9:13 AM, Sarah Reichelt sarah.reich...@gmail.com wrote: Hope others add themselves, it would be interesting to see where we all are. Yes, and we need a pin for the RunRev offices. I asked Google to give me directions to some of these locations, but it failed miserably and said it couldn't be done. So the only person I can get to is Terry - I'll be there in 21 hours and 46 minutes Terry :-) Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revBrowserSet, search a second string
Claus - This looks like a bug (at least on OSX). As you point out the docs say that setting the selectedtext to empty or a string that does not occur in the text should 'reset' the selection - but doesn't. Certainly worth reporting. In the meantime it looks like you can work around it by handing the focus to another control. This should remove the current selection in the browser text and let you 'search' again. I just tried with with the browser example stack and doing the following... focus on btn browser on -- (button that toggle the browser on and off) ... Before changing the search string had the desired effect. HTH, Terry... On 11/02/10 7:35 AM, Claus Dreischer cl...@dreischer.de wrote: Hi, i see a strange behaviour when searching a second string in a revBrowser: First i open a revBroser and i can see the web page i stated Then i search in that page with: revBrowserSet sBrowserId, selected, search_text sBrowserId is the Browser ID i got from revBrowserOpen search_text is the variable containing my string to search, like Mike I can do this repeatedly and i find the different occurences of that string in that page. All fine here. Now when i change the search_string to e.g. John, nothing happens. John is not found (but he's on that page) :-/ Changing the search string again (even to Mike): Nothing happens. :-/ Resetting the search with an empty search string (like the doku said): Nothing happens :-/ Any ideas what i could have done wrong? Regards, Claus. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revBrowserSet, search a second string
OK - it looks like the OSX and Win versions of the browser function differently here (nothing new about that). While the method I suggested doesn't work with the Win browser, I did find that calling the revBrowserSet command twice will do the trick. For example, using the runrev home page as a testbed... RevBrowserSet 1, selected, platform -- selects a single instance of the word platform in the footer section of the page RevBrowserSet 1, selected, enterprise -- selects a substring of a word a couple of lines down RevBrowserSet 1, selected, platform -- does nothing but... RevBrowserSet 1, selected, platform -- selects the previously selected instance of the string I'd still report this as it doesn't work as reported and there is nothing more painful than having to implement platform specific workarounds (actually, not being able to come up with any satisfactory workaround for a particular platform is definitely more annoying). HTH, Terry... On 11/02/10 10:07 AM, Claus Dreischer cl...@dreischer.de wrote: Hi Terry, thanks for taking a look! I had no luck with handing the focus to another control here on Win XP. Didn't cured the problem here. But i have done some more tests: (revBrowser alread open in a substack) - revBrowserSet sBrowserId, selected, Mike works - revBrowserSet sBrowserId, selected, John works too :-) - focus on main stack - focus back on substack with revBrowser - revBrowserSet sBrowserId, selected, Mike doesn't work anymore :-/ - revBrowserSet sBrowserId, selected, John doesn't work anymore :-( So it looks like (at least here on Win XP), *loosing* the focus is somewhat related to the problem. Can anyone shine a light on his? Regards, Claus. Am 10.02.10 23:04, schrieb Terry Judd: Claus - This looks like a bug (at least on OSX). As you point out the docs say that setting the selectedtext to empty or a string that does not occur in the text should 'reset' the selection - but doesn't. Certainly worth reporting. In the meantime it looks like you can work around it by handing the focus to another control. This should remove the current selection in the browser text and let you 'search' again. I just tried with with the browser example stack and doing the following... focus on btn browser on -- (button that toggle the browser on and off) ... Before changing the search string had the desired effect. HTH, Terry... On 11/02/10 7:35 AM, Claus Dreischer cl...@dreischer.de wrote: Hi, i see a strange behaviour when searching a second string in a revBrowser: First i open a revBroser and i can see the web page i stated Then i search in that page with: revBrowserSet sBrowserId, selected, search_text sBrowserId is the Browser ID i got from revBrowserOpen search_text is the variable containing my string to search, like Mike I can do this repeatedly and i find the different occurences of that string in that page. All fine here. Now when i change the search_string to e.g. John, nothing happens. John is not found (but he's on that page) :-/ Changing the search string again (even to Mike): Nothing happens. :-/ Resetting the search with an empty search string (like the doku said): Nothing happens :-/ Any ideas what i could have done wrong? Regards, Claus. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Properly formatted large numbers
Can you have two columns - one formatted, one not - and somehow apply the sort to the unformatted column. I guess the unformatted column would have to be of invisible and you'd need to have some way of trapping the selection of the column header. You might need Trevor's help there. Terry... On 10/02/10 2:17 PM, Michael Lew micha...@unimelb.edu.au wrote: Dear Listers I'm working on some statistical simulations and regularly get output numbers with anything from 1 to 7 digits. They are hard to read when they don't have the conventional commas separating the thousands and millions. I've written a simple function that does the comma formatting for me but it mucks up sorting. Of course. (I'm using a datagrid to display the results and live sorting is really handy.) Does anyone have an easy way to deal with this? I'm tempted to use a fixed pitch font so that larger numbers always look longer, but that would be a kludgey workaround. (I note that in OSX the Finder puts separators in the correct places in large numbers using the settings of the International System Preferences.) Regards, Michael ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting list of files in a folder
How about this? function listFiles pFolderPath set the defaultFolder to pFolderPath put the files into tFiles filter tFiles without .* put empty into tList repeat for each line tFile in tFiles put tFile tab (pFolderPath / tFile) cr after tList end repeat return char 1 to -2 of tList end listFiles Terry... On 9/02/10 4:05 PM, Mark Swindell mdswind...@cruzio.com wrote: How do I return a list of the files in a given folder on disk along with their full path? Thanks, Mark___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting data from a secure web page
Hi Sarah - I'd really like to see a solution to this as well, so if you come up with anything can you post it to the list? Best regards, Terry... On 3/02/10 11:01 AM, Sarah Reichelt sarah.reich...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I need the ability to download a secure web page (I have the login details) and get data from it. This is so I can allow everyone to monitor internet usage, so we don't go over in a month and get speed-capped to dial-up to speeds. On my browser, I go to https://memberservices.optuszoo.com.au/login/?target=/myusage/ and when I enter the name password, I get to https://memberservices.optuszoo.com.au/myusage/ which has the data I need. I have tried using Rev directly: put URL https://memberservices.optuszoo.com.au/myusage/; and put URL https://username:passw...@memberservices.optuszoo.com.au/myusage/; but these give no data at all. Then I tried curl, but I have to say I find it very confusing with it's multitude of options. I tried several options that gave nothing and some that gave me back a web page, but always just the login page again. revBrowser allows me to get the login page, enter my details and login, then get the html source so I can find the usage data I need, but this is only a useful technique if I have a way to submit a form automatically from a revBrowser. So does anyone have a way of getting data from a page like this? TIA, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Calling stack?
If it's a substack the you can use 'the owner' to get the name of the main stack. Otherwise I think you'll need to store it in a variable or a custom property for future reference. How about having a property called the cCallingStack of the stack you're opening and setting it with the name of the current stack before you open the next stack... set the cCallingStack of stack stackpathorname to the short name\ of this stack open stack stackpathorname HTH, Terry... On 3/02/10 4:03 PM, Bill Vlahos bvla...@mac.com wrote: I have a stack that opens another stack. How do I refer to the name of the calling stack in the freshly opened stack which is now on top? Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DataGrid - not drawing fully in standalone
Is the datagrid in a separate stack (not a substack) that is opened by the standalone? Terry... On 16/01/10 11:38 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: I have a DataGrid which works fine in the IDE, but in a standalone it draws only the appropriate number of alternating lines but no contents in those rows. Because the problem is limited to the standalone it's difficult to pin down; I hope to have more details as I continue to poke around. But I'm writing now just to see if any of you have come across such a thing, and how you resolved it. TIA for any insight you can share -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: an interesting challenge
On 14/01/10 10:51 AM, Derek run...@gmx.com wrote: 4. a secret text file gets generated and downloaded to the drive along with the standalone, the standalone finds it, reads it and deletes it? (no, the user might be confused and delete it before they launch the standalone) There was some discussion over the last couple of days about the potential evils of Flash shared objects but I guess you could use them to your advantage in this case. If you included a small Flash object on the referring page that created a shared object with a name that reflected its relationship to both your standalone and the host website then you could get the downloaded Rev standalone to check for its existence amongst all the other shared objects when it started up for the first time. Still far from ideal and will definitely fail if the user downloads on one computer and installs on another. Seems like what you really want is a server-based routine that packages (zips) the standalone with a text file containing the required information on the fly and delivers the customised version to the user. Terry... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: an interesting challenge
A challenge within a challenge. Terry... On 14/01/10 1:41 PM, Derek run...@gmx.com wrote: J. Landman Gay wrote: J. Landman Gay wrote: It's easy for PHP code in the landing download page to get the information that Bob sent them with a $GET. But how on earth will the Revolution standalone know about Bob? One thought: PHP gets the info and sends it to the download server via a POST action to a CGI on the download server. The download server's CGI parses the parameters and writes the info to a file or database. When the standalone launches on a user's machine, it does a get URL of the CGI on the download server, which looks up the data and returns it. I left out something. You need some kind of identifying info so that you know who to look up. So unless you require a registration, where they enter their name on both the server and into your standalone, this method won't work. :( That was my last resort -- option #9! Do you really need to tie each copy to a specific user? Maybe just knowing that Bob referred 10 people and another server referred 40 is enough? In this project, I do need to match incoming users to referrers. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: an interesting challenge
On 14/01/10 2:57 PM, Derek run...@gmx.com wrote: I think we're running into problems with indents so hopefully this remains readable... There was some discussion over the last couple of days about the potential evils of Flash shared objects but I guess you could use them to your advantage in this case. If you included a small Flash object on the referring page that created a shared object with a name that reflected its relationship to both your standalone and the host website then you could get the downloaded Rev standalone to check for its existence amongst all the other shared objects when it started up for the first time. Would that be better than a browser cookie? Would I still have to scan all the browser folders on their computer? There are designated (platform specific) locations for shared objects to be stored (check the mail archives for the last few days because I'm sure someone posted them previously) so you wouldn't need to do much scanning - some relatively simple code within a switch statement based on the platform and systemversion functions and utilising the defaultfolder property should do the trick. Still far from ideal and will definitely fail if the user downloads on one computer and installs on another. Seems like what you really want is a server-based routine that packages (zips) the standalone with a text file containing the required information on the fly and delivers the customised version to the user. That is a great suggestion... then all Revolution needs to do is search their whole hard drive for the file (different people choose to download things to different places), and hopefully not run into permissions problems, and hopefully the user won't delete it before launching the standalone. Well if your program consists of a folder containing the application and various other folders/components then I don't think you'd have any problem with an additional (temporary) text file getting 'lost' or the application finding the file when it first launched. If however your program has to consist of the application and nothing else then you'd need to somehow write the info into the application on the server side before you zip it for download. I guess this would be relatively straightforward for Mac apps as they are folders anyway but not sure how you'd go about it with Win apps. Perhaps you could find a bit of redundant/little used text within the binary code (there are bits and pieces that are human readable) that you could write your string to for later extraction. Terry... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Scale ImageSource?
On 8/01/10 6:02 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: Recently, Jacque Landman Gay wrote: As Jacque said, an interesting idea Terry. In fact, the imageSource caching feature could actually work to my benefit since the thumbnails could all be exported to a single temp image without fear of updating the other imageSource references. Using one fileName would be a bit less messy than using 40 or so separate exports I would have to deal with (40 thumbnails). Let us know if it works. I have a hunch that Rev will only read the first iteration of the image and all the subsequent imagesource references to the same file will look like the first one. But I'm not sure, so I'm curious. And if it does work, we all have a new trick. Oops, you're probably right. If I get a chance to try it I'll report back. Yep - I reckon they will all be the same as well which is why I suggested using the tempname function to provide a unique file path, writing the image to it, setting the imagesource and then deleting the temporary file. I might have confused things unnecessarily by mentioning the caching issue, which on reflection seems not to be relevant if you use this method. Terry... Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Scale ImageSource?
Scott - What about exporting the scaled image object to a 'random' temporary file (using the tempname function), setting the imagesource and then deleting the file. That way you should avoid the caching issues that Jacqui brought up the other day. Terry... On 8/01/10 9:07 AM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: Can anyone think of way to scale the imageSource representation of an image in a field without actually scaling the source image? I have a bunch of Web based thumbnail images that are larger than I would like, which I want to display in a field via imageSource links. The only way I can think to scale the imageSource display is to set the fileName of an intermediate image object to the URL of the thumbnail, scale the intermediate image, and then point the imageSource items in the field at the intermediate image object. But then I think I would need a separate intermediate image for every imageSource reference, which will eventually become unmanageable. I tried adding standard HTML size tags (width =, height =) to the HTMLtext of the field but these seem to be ignored. Any other ideas on how I might do this? Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Text anomaly
Jim - you need to escape the slash with an extra slash E.g. 123 1//2 Main St Terry... On 4/01/10 9:41 AM, James Hurley jhurley0...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I have a list of addresses in which some of the street number area fractional such as: 123 1/2 Main St. When I put these addresses into the text property of a popup menu, everything after the division sign is omitted from the line in which it appears, i.e. the address above would look like 123 1 This doesn't happen with any other aritmetic sign, multiplcation, addition or subtraction signs. Is this just an anomaly with the text field in a popup or is there something else going on that I should worry about? Jim Hurley ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Passing parameters from Rev to Applescript
The merge function is really useful here. put Pictures into tWindowName do merge(fld 1) as applescript Where fld 1 contains... tell application Finder to get bounds of window [[tWindowName]] Terry... On 22/12/09 1:06 PM, Kee Nethery k...@kagi.com wrote: On Dec 21, 2009, at 3:01 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote: Hmmm, I thought this was straightforward but I can't seem to get this to work. I want to pass a value from Rev to an applescript. Here is a simplified version of what I'm trying to do: on mouseup Put Pictures into tWindowName do field 1 as Applescript end mouseup Field 1 contains the following: Set theWindow to tWindowName Tell application Finder get bounds of window theWindow end tell This results in an applescript execution error. If I substitute Pictures for tWindowName, it works properly. But rather than hard-coding the window name into the applescript I want to pass it as a parameter. tWindowName is not a variable. When it is in a field, it is just text. Nothing special about it. If you want this to work, what you could do is replace the text of tWindowName with the data you want it to contain. For example: on mouseup Put Pictures into tWindowName put field 1 into whatToSend replace tWindowName with quote tWindowName quote in whatToSend -- doing this replaces the text with the data in the variable do whatToSend as Applescript end mouseup ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: GLX2
How about the debugger? It broke in 3.5 and apparently broke Rev's as well (at least in my setup - OSX). I finally removed it the other day and I can now use the 'continue' button in the Rev debugger without freezing or crashing Rev. Despite all the good things said about tRev and my good (pre 3.5) experiences with GLX2 I'd still like the option to try tRev before buying (to see if I can live with a 'decoder' rather than a debugger). Terry... On 1/12/09 10:22 AM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Generic- Monday, November 30, 2009, 2:18:11 PM, you wrote: Will GLX 2 be updated to work with Revolution 4? Is there something that's not working for you? I'm using glx2 with rev 4 with no problems... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: QT on Win: possible deal-breaker, need alternative
I like the look of this. I'm going to have to push an app out to a variety of hospital settings soon where QT is the exception rather than the norm so it may well do the job. Thanks (to all concerned) for the recommendation. Terry... On 1/12/09 10:36 AM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: jw flv player is very stable. I've used it before for doing exactly that (playing mp3 inside rev) and it works quite well. On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 7:47 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: Hey Richard, What about licensing one of those soup-to-nuts javascript players like JW Player in conjunction with RevBrowswer. Doesn't javascript and Flash run in RevBrowser? I think this one has a lot of options: http://www.longtailvideo.com/players/jw-flv-player/ It appears to play EVERYA/V format, not just MP3s and flvs. I don't know how stable this lash-up is, but it's a thought. At least a browser is a standard install on both platforms and the meat of the display code is updated with the user's browser. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/11/30 Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com I have a project out to bid which is currently spec'd to require QuickTime on both Mac and Win. The client is discussing this with his customers to determine whether it will be acceptable to them to install QT on their systems. In the event that those customers say no I need a backup, and preferably one which lets me deliver this project in Rev. Here are the specs: a. Source media files are in WAV, AIF, and MP3, with thousands of them and many of full-length songs so embedded audio clips are not an option. b. Must be able to play the file. c. Must be able to move the playhead in whatever UI we deliver to allow playback from arbitrary starting points. In my tests here using a Win XP system without QT installed, b. works fine only for MP3, but I couldn't play WAV files in Rev at all. c. was a non-starter for all formats: attempting to set the currentTime for a player control yielded no change to when the file began playing; if the file had not be played before it would only play from 0, and if it had played and been stopped using the stop command then the next play would always resume where it had last stopped, regardless of the currentTime. Last time I asked about this here one of the responses (from Andre?) suggested using a player made with Flash embedded in HTML inside the Rev browser. If we have no alternative that may be okay, but I'm concerned about the layers of overhead introduced by relying on those two extra components. Have any of you used a similar configuration for playing WAV files on a PC? Was the performance acceptable? Any drawbacks with such a setup? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
