The currently playing track revMobile
I want to write an iOS app that allows me to edit the tags of the tracks on my iPod Touch. Often when I listen to music on my iPod, I want to edit the data of the currently playing track. For example, I want to set the genre, or at least add some comments to it. And when I connect the iPod to my iMac, I want that data to sync back to iTunes automatically. I don't know of any app that has similar functionality, so I doubt whether the SDK allows it. But it sure would be great if it did. As far as I know, the only information that is synced back from my iPod to iTunes is: star ratings and play counts. But I would love to do more. If this is simply impossible, could there be some kind of workaround? For example: the app records the title artist of the currently playing track to a text file on the iPod, along with the data I would like to add/modify. When connected to the Mac, an AppleScript could process that text file to make the changes to the corresponding track(s) in iTunes. Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated. Terry___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where does revMobile go?
But shouldn't it be included? I mean, in the new approach it is one of the distribution methods, just like Mac, Windows, Unix and Web. So I actually expected to find it in the Standalone application settings as one of the tabs. And let the license prevent or enable me to use it... Or am I thinking too far ahead now? Terry Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 3:26:09 PM, Jacque wrote: On 9/21/10 2:31 PM, Terry Vogelaar wrote: I upgraded to LiveCode 4.5. Because I have bought revMobile, Mobile Deployment is already purchased according to the store, as expected. However, I don't see it in the Development Plugins menu where it used to be. Nor can I find it anywhere else yet. Should I reinstall the plugin? If so, where? In 4.5, open Preferences, Files and Memory pane. Use the browse button at the bottom to select your My Revolution folder as the external folder location. That folder is located inside your Documents folder, and was created by previous versions of Rev. Restart LiveCode and it should load all your externals from that location. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode 4.5 License model
Yes! Op 21 sep 2010, om 20:59 heeft use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com het volgende geschreven: I have one question: Is Rev 4.5 now LiveCode 4.5? Craig Newman ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Where does revMobile go?
I upgraded to LiveCode 4.5. Because I have bought revMobile, Mobile Deployment is already purchased according to the store, as expected. However, I don't see it in the Development Plugins menu where it used to be. Nor can I find it anywhere else yet. Should I reinstall the plugin? If so, where? Terry___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
No callback from libURLDownloadToFile?
Hi all, libURLDownloadToFile seems to ignore the callback message after finishing. I didn't hear a beep when putting this in the message box: libURLDownloadToFile http://www.houdinis.net/TributePeggyLee.jpg;, ~/ Desktop/9823.jpg, beep What did I do wrong? The file got downloaded, but the callback message wasn't sent. Bug maybe? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: No callback from libURLDownloadToFile?
That was very helpful. Thanks. Terry Op 3 jun 2010, om 19:00 heeft use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com het volgende geschreven: beep is a command, not a message handler. Try making your own handler that beeps and I think it will work. Cheers, Sarah On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:13 PM, Terry Vogelaar tvogel...@de-mare.nl wrote: Hi all, libURLDownloadToFile seems to ignore the callback message after finishing. I didn't hear a beep when putting this in the message box: libURLDownloadToFile http://www.houdinis.net/TributePeggyLee.jpg;, ~/Desktop/9823.jpg, beep What did I do wrong? The file got downloaded, but the callback message wasn't sent. Bug maybe? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Download queue with libURL
Hi Mark, I'm afraid that is not true. I tried it without queue and it worked for very small files. If the file is small enough, the upload is done on time. Also, when debugging, the script is running slow enough to finish downloading. But when I'm just running it and it has to download a bunch of JPGs of 125kb each, I only have the last one. That was the only one that had enough time to finish. So I apparently need this queue approach to solve this. And the variable contains the right data because it does the first one. However, it doesn't call the script like it should. No wachtrij message is sent. I'm puzzled... Terry Op 31-mei-2010, om 19:00 heeft use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com het volgende geschreven: Hi Terry, You don't need to do this. LibURL can do this by itself. Just issue the upload and download commands right-away. Does item 3 of line 1 of kjoejoe contain a file path? (It should). -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille On 31 mei 2010, at 13:28, Terry Vogelaar wrote: I can't figure out what is wrong with this script: on wachtrij global kjoejoe if line 1 of kjoejoe then put line 1 of kjoejoe the number of lines of kjoejoe set the itemdel to tab switch item 1 of line 1 of kjoejoe case up libURLftpUploadFile item 2 of line 1 of kjoejoe, item 3 of line 1 of kjoejoe, wachtrij break case down libURLDownloadToFile item 2 of line 1 of kjoejoe, item 3 of line 1 of kjoejoe, wachtrij end switch delete line 1 of kjoejoe end if end wachtrij The global variable 'kjoejoe' contains the prober data, because the first line gets processed as expected. But then, after libURLDownloadToFile or libURLftpUploadFile is done, it should call this command again until kjoejoe is empty. And that isn't happening. Why not? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Download queue with libURL
I can't figure out what is wrong with this script: on wachtrij global kjoejoe if line 1 of kjoejoe then put line 1 of kjoejoe the number of lines of kjoejoe set the itemdel to tab switch item 1 of line 1 of kjoejoe case up libURLftpUploadFile item 2 of line 1 of kjoejoe, item 3 of line 1 of kjoejoe, wachtrij break case down libURLDownloadToFile item 2 of line 1 of kjoejoe, item 3 of line 1 of kjoejoe, wachtrij end switch delete line 1 of kjoejoe end if end wachtrij The global variable 'kjoejoe' contains the prober data, because the first line gets processed as expected. But then, after libURLDownloadToFile or libURLftpUploadFile is done, it should call this command again until kjoejoe is empty. And that isn't happening. Why not? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
News on revMobile and the iPhone
Because of my vacation, I wasn't able to respond earlier to Kevin's sad news. Being an Apple fan, this change in Apple's license agreement is the first major disappointment in the company. It has obviously nothing to do with performance like they say. If that was the case, they should exclude JavaScript because it's a high level, interpreted language. And they should ban all Obj-C/C++ code written by less experienced programmers... Neither has it anything to do with being prepared for the future. I know RunRev as a very nimble company who adapts very fast to new trends, new OSes and new hardware. I don't know how RunRev does it, but apparently the architecture of their product(s) is so good they can adjust very quickly and they stay in the saddle when the industry makes crazy turns. So I cannot think of any sane reason why Apple changed their license agreement. It has probably to do with the Flash war against Adobe. But actually this would be an easy battle for Adobe to win. When ActionScript 3.0 came out, they reconstructed the language to be compatible with JavaScript, which they use as scripting language in other Creative Suite products. So all Adobe has to do is rename ActionScript to JavaScript... So RunRev just seems to suffer as collateral damage in this stupid war between these big players. Terry___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do I use substrings in regular expressions?
Hi Michael, I agree with Richard and want to thank you for the script. I don't really demand a regex; I just need to replace the SWF reference with the appropriate JPG. I used a regex because I often use GREP in BBEdit. But apparently the implementation in runrev is a bit different. It should be based on PCRE, and that supports this behavior. Might this be a little bug? Whatever the case, I am helped! You noticed the ID was gone in the IMG tag with the JPG. I removed it because I didn't need it. But it's cool with me if it stays in. Terry Michael Kann wrote: Here's a somewhat generic script to find any HTML element by its ID and make the replacements you need. It doesn't use regex. I apologize. No need to apologize. RegEx is convenient, but it's able to offer that convenience usually at the price of performance. It almost always takes more lines of code to do the same thing with chunk expressions as one can do in RegEx, but is often much faster. And when someone else writes the code, as you've done here, you get both speed and convenience. :) -- Richard Gaskin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Revlet as backend tool
I have been asked to make a HTML-version of a Flash-based site, because not all internet browsing devices have Flash. The site is not hosted on On-Rev, so I cannot use an .irev file. The CMS is Flashblocks; a Flash-based commercial CMS that writes all data to an XML-file. So the task of parsing the data and write it to a bunch of HTML-files should be fairly simple. So I want to write a revlet with a simple user interface. Basically a button that the editor can click after he is done with updating the content in Flashblocks. The script then parses the newly written XML-file and puts the HTML-files on the server to update them too, for all iPhone users to see. But before I start coding, I want to investigate what the hurdles might be, because this is going to be my first revlet. For example: what is the standard location for a revlet to write files? The server or the user side? Can a revlet write files to a server? If yes, how? Do I need to set permissions? Can it create new files and overwrite existing files? Terry___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revlet as backend tool
Thanks for your responses, Michael, Richard and Andre. I realized some things weren't very clear in my post. The revlet is not intended for the iPhone users to use or see. It is a backend tool. The person who writes the content has to start the script after he is done updating the site in Flashblocks. Ideally, I want to add as few steps as possible. If the script creates its HTML-files on the local computer and he has to upload them using FTP, he probably will not bother to use it every time he needs to. Using Rev CGI instead of a revlet is an idea. Still, I like to avoid it if possible. I don't know if the ISP allows the Rev engine to be installed. So I think I'll try the libURLftpUpload command. Terry Op 13 apr 2010, om 19:00 heeft use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com het volgende geschreven: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 13:07:43 -0300 From: Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com Subject: Re: Revlet as backend tool To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: o2j7c87a2a11004130907uda8e1237lc4472f484aa36...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Terry, Like the others, I suspect your best option is a CGI and not a RevWeb installation. This will make it easier to read and generate files since everything will run on the server. Doing file manipulation on servers from a client point of view can be tricky. Now, moving further, remember to checkout the following things when you reach the point of generating your web ui for the iphone itself: * The viewport tag * iUI javascript library Those two cool technologies will make your iPhone HTML better and more beautiful. Cheers andre On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:29 AM, Terry Vogelaar tvogel...@de-mare.nlwrote: I have been asked to make a HTML-version of a Flash-based site, because not all internet browsing devices have Flash. The site is not hosted on On-Rev, so I cannot use an .irev file. The CMS is Flashblocks; a Flash-based commercial CMS that writes all data to an XML-file. So the task of parsing the data and write it to a bunch of HTML-files should be fairly simple. So I want to write a revlet with a simple user interface. Basically a button that the editor can click after he is done with updating the content in Flashblocks. The script then parses the newly written XML-file and puts the HTML-files on the server to update them too, for all iPhone users to see. But before I start coding, I want to investigate what the hurdles might be, because this is going to be my first revlet. For example: what is the standard location for a revlet to write files? The server or the user side? Can a revlet write files to a server? If yes, how? Do I need to set permissions? Can it create new files and overwrite existing files? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How do I use substrings in regular expressions?
I cannot get this regex to work: put replacetext(textBlock,q(IMG SRC='([^']*)' ([^]*) ID=' idNumber ' ([^]*)), q(IMG SRC=' newPath ' \2 \3)) into textBlock The purpose is to replace: IMG SRC=flashblocks/editors/Mediablock.swf WIDTH=300 HEIGHT=100 ID=ID3 ALIGN=left VSPACE=2 HSPACE=8 with: IMG SRC=flashblocks/data/resize/home1_holder_txt_ID3_mb.jpg WIDTH=300 HEIGHT=100 ALIGN=left VSPACE=2 HSPACE=8 The \2 and \3 part should insert the substrings matching ([^]*). This is working in BBEdit, but Rev gave me literally \2 \3: IMG SRC=flashblocks/data/resize/home1_holder_txt_ID3_mb.jpg \2 \3 I cannot use the normal replace command, because it should only work when the ID attribute is matched. Terry___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: increasing dpi in export snapshot
Hi Durgesh, Try not to forget that every snapshot is just taking (part of) the bitmap image displayed on screen. Thus, it IS a low resolution image and there is no way to really change this. You might consider these workarounds: You might bring up the print dialog and print to a postscript or PDF file. Or you might just enlarge what you see on screen before you take a snapshot. So just double the size of everything. When you print or import the image in another program, you just reduce the size to 50%. Your screen resolution is either 72 or 96 pixels per inch. With 50% reduction, you have 144 or 192 ppi. Terry Op 22 nov 2009, om 19:00 heeft use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com het volgende geschreven: I am using export snapshot on group of text boxes and saving it to a JPG file. Looking at the resulting JPEG file, it does not look very smooth. It is pixelized as if some low resolution image. Is there any way to increase the dpi or some other mechanism to enhance the image file generated from export snapshot ? Thank you all in advance, Kind Regards, -Durgesh ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Debugging on On-Rev - I don't GET it
I don't understand how to debug an irev file when form input is involved. Here it the case: I want to pick data up from a CGI driven HTML page. But my irev script needs to do some preprocessing first. So I made a script preprocess.irev and I began to try just passing whatever this script GETs: I tried preprocess.irev?id18=1m=eph+1%3A1-5%3A1 with the following script: ?rev put $_GET into sGET combine sGET using put script.cgi?set=5lang=enpos=0nobar=1t=4 urlencode(sGET) into varZ put url varZ ? It returned Bad request. But when I hardcoded in exactly the same values, it worked: ?rev put id18=1m=eph+1%3A1-5%3A1into sGET put http://www.biblija.net/biblija.cgi? lang=enset=5pos=0nobar=1t=4 sGET into varZ put url varZ ? I wanted to insert a breakpoint, but then I realized I didn't knew how to debug this because of the additional data in the url. Any solutions? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Runrev on Hyves
I started a hyves group a few days ago for runrev fans like me. The intention is to give runrev more exposure and spread the love. Until now, I am the only member :-( For those who do not know Hyves: it is the largest social network site in the Netherlands. Approximately one third of the Dutch population is a member of it and the majority of the members use it weekly or daily. You can take a look on http://runrev.hyves.nl (and are free to join). Any tips on what kind of content I can (legally) add? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
SQL problem
Hi all,
I am struggling to get a MySQL database filled. The idea is to use a
form that calls an irev file, that in turn adds to the database.
Here is the script:
?rev
put revOpenDatabase
(mysql,localhost,terry_dbname,terry_dbuser,password) into
tConID
# Construct SQL
put INSERT INTO 'terry_dbname'.'tablename' ('login' , 'ww' ,
'toegang') VALUES (' $_GET[login] ', ' $_GET[ww] ',
' $_GET[toegang] '); into tSQL
if tConID is a number then
# Execute SQL
put revDataFromQuery(tab, return, tConID, tSQL) into tList
revCloseDatase tConID
end if
?
Sample data:
http://terry.on-rev.com/h.irev?login=hafaddegonww=%3D%
5DwTjLEltoegang=xA1%0D%0AxB1
All arguments are URL encoded...
But I get a SQL error... Is anyone seeing what the error could be?
Terry
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Re: rev apps on iPhone?
Hi Josh, It is painful for me to admit, but you do have a point here. :-) On the other hand, RunRev can also run 'faceless' on webservers as CGI engines. I think the gap between using a stack on a 'normal' computer and a CGI server is larger than the gap between OSX and the iPhone OS. There are some minor hurdles to take, but the main difference is Cocoa Touch / the GUI. Except for that challenge, it is just Mac OSX. Terry -- Message: 11 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:23:17 -0700 From: Josh Mellicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: rev apps on iPhone? To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes I understand the desire to have Rev a write-once, deploy everywhere solution... iPhone, Windows mobile, web, toaster, microwave, etc. But I'd like to cast my one very small vote that Rev continue to focus on doing one thing really well- make desktop apps for OSX/WinXP/Vista/ Linux that work really well. To me, continuing to refine Rev's power in making it easier to work with databases, improving table fields, Quicktime and AVI functions, adding more standard widgets like popup calendars and various types of grids, better text processing... in my opinion, improving those core functions is so much more important than trying to make it a do everything solution, especially for a smaller company. Xcode works fine for iPhone, there are other solutions for web, a wise person once told me, stick to one thing, and be the best in the world at it. (Of course, I have never followed this advice meeself ;-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Caricature challenge
I all, I agree with Dave that Wilhelm probably never intended to make a political statement about Bush with his picture. Overhere in Europe it is totally OK to make fun of people, whether we respect them or not. In fact, I started this thread because I get a lot of requests from guys who want to have a caricature of themselves. Most of them because they have seen my self portret at http://terryv.hyves.nl/fotos/100011903//i8yH/ I hope this helps to settle it for Chipp (and others that felt offended) and that it avoids stirring up a discussion on politics etc. It is just a cultural thing; a difference between US culture and the more egalitarian European approach. It doesn't have much to do with (dis)respecting others, although I can imagine it felt like that. To bring this back to the topic, I am very curious, Wilhelm, how you did this with RunRev. Could you please mail me an example stack to use the imagedata toolkit? Alternatively, where can I find more info? (I use the beta of 2.9). Thanks in advance. Terry Op 19 dec 2007, om 16:52 heeft Wilhelm Sanke het volgende geschreven: In my reply of Nov 29 to thread Any suggestions on how to onion skinning? I had mentioned some new features of my upcoming release of the Imagedata Toolkit - among them copying - and enlarging or shrinking - and pasting oval or rectangular portions of an image into the same or another image with variable fringe and/or overall blending into the basic image). I applied this to a photo of a not unknown public figure, the result can be inspected here: http://www.sanke.org/Software/SmilingBush.jpg. To achieve this I used a number of steps, in which about two of Ken's five steps are applied, but most of which follow a different sequence and are of another nature. The basis for the copying - and enlarging or shrinking - and pasting oval or rectangular portions of an image are rects, ovals, and polygons in the form of images with transparent fringes of different sizes. I use a rectangular or oval graphic as a selection tool that can be resized and dragged across the photo to select a portion of it (This selection tool is similar to that used in my seamless tiles 2 stack). The underlying image - the partially tranparent basic template - is then adjusted in location and size to the selected portion of the photo. At the same time an already existing empty image newimage is also set to the selected portion of the image. The imagedata of the selected portion of the photo are then read into the newimage, and the alphadata of the template are applied to the newimage. You can then enlarge or shrink newimage or leave it as it is and drag it to any place on the photo. You can also flip newimage. Next step is to integrate the image- and alphadata of newimage into the photo, either once or several times at different places. This integration can be applied with variable levels of blending, in addition to the transparent fringe of the template that ensures optimal blending into the photo. If an enlarged portion of newimage should have been dragged to a position where it overlaps the rect of the photo, the overlapping parts of newimage are then cut off in the process of integration.- For SmilingBush I have only used a single oval template. The star - taken from the left side - on his forehead - is partially blended. One of the flags - taken from his lapel - has been flipped.- I hope I do not cause trouble with this attempt of a caricature - as it happens in other parts of the world. Bush is indeed a known public figure and as such often the object of caricatures. Best regards, Wilhelm Sanke ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Caricature challenge
Fake is fine. The purpose is not to make a 'perfect' caricature on the computer, but to make a visual guide on what to emphasise. Still I wonder HOW to divide a picture in polygons and distort each polygon in Revolution. Any suggestions? I've seen pretty good 'fake' approaches in Flash. It divided a picture by making several instances of it and mask each instance with a rectangular mask. It then enlarged the rectangles based on the mouse position. Looked cool. Can RunRev also mask instances of a picture, mask triangular parts of it and scale / skew / distort each part individually? Terry Op 14 dec 2007, om 0:04 heeft Randall Lee Reetz het volgende geschreven: I use polygons (in supercard) and then put images as rectangles (grabbed from the rect that bounds them) into them and then stretch the polygons. Does a pretty good fake of stetching the source. Try it! I am sure rev has this stuff too. Think of your faces as a bunch of points... The polys are just the triangles etc. between these points. i've done mesh distortion filters this way. Works great. randall -Original Message- From: Terry Vogelaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 12/13/2007 11:13 PM Subject: Caricature challenge Hi there, It has been a while since my last post, but I still a RunRev fan. My other passion is painting. And I get a lot of requests for caricatures lately. With familiar faces it is easy to see what is less perfect. But it is really hard to analyse a face if I only have one photo and I never seen the person in real life. So my plan is to do an analysis with the help of my computer to see what the ugly sides are to emphasise those. Marquardt has made a mask to apply to a frontal picture of a face. The better the mask fits, the more beautiful a face is. Read all about it on http://www.beautyanalysis.com if you're interested. So I want to make a program that imports a picture and puts some key points of Marquardts mask on top of it. Those points can be dragged to a position to match the picture better. It then calculates the difference between where it is and where it should be, in order to multiply the difference. So far this is all easily doable with RunRev. But here comes the challenge. It should slice up the picture in triangles or rectangles and distort them. Is this possible in RunRev? If not, is the data exportable to any other program that can do this? I know PhotoShop has an ability 'liquify' an image. This filter can handle exported liquify meshes. But the contend of such a mesh is not readable by humans. Volker Blanz and Thomas Vetter made a computer program to do that (and much more) in 3D. Too bad it is not for sale. But it proves caricatures can be generated by a computer. See http://www.mpi-inf.mpg.de/~blanz/movies/siggraph99.mpg - the part between 0:54 and 1:10 min. But that program is way more than what I want to accomplish. If I just can slice up a 2D image and distort each part programmatically, I would be totally happy. Any suggestions on how to distort an image with RunRev? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Caricature challenge
Hi there, It has been a while since my last post, but I still a RunRev fan. My other passion is painting. And I get a lot of requests for caricatures lately. With familiar faces it is easy to see what is less perfect. But it is really hard to analyse a face if I only have one photo and I never seen the person in real life. So my plan is to do an analysis with the help of my computer to see what the ugly sides are to emphasise those. Marquardt has made a mask to apply to a frontal picture of a face. The better the mask fits, the more beautiful a face is. Read all about it on http://www.beautyanalysis.com if you're interested. So I want to make a program that imports a picture and puts some key points of Marquardts mask on top of it. Those points can be dragged to a position to match the picture better. It then calculates the difference between where it is and where it should be, in order to multiply the difference. So far this is all easily doable with RunRev. But here comes the challenge. It should slice up the picture in triangles or rectangles and distort them. Is this possible in RunRev? If not, is the data exportable to any other program that can do this? I know PhotoShop has an ability 'liquify' an image. This filter can handle exported liquify meshes. But the contend of such a mesh is not readable by humans. Volker Blanz and Thomas Vetter made a computer program to do that (and much more) in 3D. Too bad it is not for sale. But it proves caricatures can be generated by a computer. See http://www.mpi-inf.mpg.de/~blanz/movies/siggraph99.mpg - the part between 0:54 and 1:10 min. But that program is way more than what I want to accomplish. If I just can slice up a 2D image and distort each part programmatically, I would be totally happy. Any suggestions on how to distort an image with RunRev? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Browser functionality and data in a stack
Hi all, I am happy with the new browser features the newest beta/release candidate has. It can display HTML files, both online and offline. But how about data in a stack? Suppose I have a field or a variable containing XHTML with CSS. I cannot set the htmlText of a field to that without losing layout elements. I could setup the stack as CGI and navigate the browser to http:// 127.0.0.1/form.cgi, but that is a lot of overhead. A better workaround is to write the content to a text file and then navigate the browser element to file:///Users/my/Desktop/ whatever.html. But it is still a workaround. So I wonder: is there also a DIRECT way to do that? Also, I understand that it is 'impossible' (yet) to edit text in the browser :-) But what about form entries? Can the stack receive feedback from the browser in any way? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Tables trouble
Hi all, Although I use RunRev a lot, table fields are new to me. There was no need for me to explore the possibilities of these before. Until now. So the problems I run into might be stupid beginners mistakes... I figured out I can fill the table with tab delimited lines. So I populated the table with a 'put this into fld table' script. But as soon as I edit one of the cells, the entire table content is erased. From then on, I can add as many cells as I like (manually) without erasing anything I typed before. But everything I enter using a script is bound to be erased after the first manual modification. Why? Also, why is the textheight of a table field empty if a script tries to obtain it? And why is the table field not responding like a normal field when I set the locktext to true? I was hoping to make a table in which cells in certain columns act like checkboxes; I click on the cell and a dot or checkmark appears - I click on it again and it is toggled off. But although the locktext is true, the table remains editable and no mouseup event is sent to the field. Do I need to have a transparent button over the table to handle the mouseup events? Or is there some other clever solution to do this? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
revSpeak to audio file?
Hi all, Can I use RunRev to create an audio file of a text, using the system's speech synthesiser? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revSpeak to audio file?
Fortunately I am on a Mac, so this fits the need perfectly and I don't really need revSpeak in this case. I'd like to thank all of you who responded. Terry On 16 Oct 2006, at 10:53, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Terry, Poking around on my Mac I found the follwoing Apple-Script command: say this_string using default_voice saving to target_file so, presumably what you want shoud be possible (at least on a Mac) - but whether revSpeak connects with this I don't know. sincerely Richmond Mathewson ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: irregular expression
The problem was case sensitivity indeed. Thanks for the responses. To answer Marks question: Dar was right. The slash with the question mark was to match zero or one slashes, so this regex also matches the closing tags. So it matches between , followed by zero or one slashes, followed by a, followed by any number of characters other than , followed by . This can never be too greedy or not greedy enough because of the [^]* part. Only when there would be another another tag in the HTML file that has got nothing to do with a link, like address/ address, it replaces too many instances. Luckily that doesn't bother me in this case. Terry Op 15-jul-2006, om 19:00 heeft use-revolution- [EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven: On Jul 15, 2006, at 7:34 AM, Mark Greenberg wrote: put replacetext(myVar,/?a[^]*,) into myVar but why do you have /? in your RegEx string? I think I can guess that one, Mark. From one of my pages: a href=rev.htmlRevolution/abr I think Terry's intent is to change that to this: Revolutionbr So both the a and /a must be matched. The optional slash does that. (The regex does not handle a in an attribute string, say, for title, but maybe there cannot be one.) Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Escape infinite loops
Hi all, I have a script that somehow has an infinite loop somewhere, although I cannot see where or why. Back in the HyperCard days I ran more often into such an error. I had to use Command-dot often to stop executing scripts. But RunRev 2.7 doesn't seem to respond to that. So I force-quit RunRev. But is there another way to abort executing scripts? Also, is there a way to give a handler a maximum time to finish? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Nested tags
Hi all, I've got a scripting problem that seems ridiculously simple. I have to find the corresponding end tag in a HTML file with nested SPAN tags: SPAN class=FOOTNOTE SPAN Class=reference origin /SPAN SPAN Class=quote SPAN Class=smallcaps Text /SPAN more text /SPAN /SPAN Some of the tags are nested. How do I find the end tag of each SPAN tag? The tag on line 1 has its end tag on line 11, but the first time it sees /SPAN is on line 4... Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Visual effects to scroll up a field?
Hi all, I am working on an application for presenting text on an LCD projector. Not just phrases like with a normal presentation, but the audience actually have to read along with the (quite long) text on the screen. So while the people are reading along, I have to scroll down. With previous solutions I just shifted, but it is annoying when the content just changes. Where are we? So now I scroll the field like this: on arrowKey deze put the scroll of fld tekst into oldScroll switch deze case down put oldScroll + 300 into newScroll break end switch repeat with e = oldScroll to newScroll step 5 set the scroll of fld tekst to e end repeat end arrowKey This does the job, but not quite smoothly. My question is: can this be improved? Are there visual effects that can be applied to JUST A PART of a window - to just a field? Any bright ideas to scroll a field up in a nice way? Can I use the Core Image capabilities of RunRev on Mac OS X 10.4 for this? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Small caps in unicode field
Hi all, How can I display small caps in a field? I have set the textfont to the opentype font Warnock Pro,utf-8 and the font contains glyphs for small caps. They are in the range unicode glyph 273 to 298. So I tried to set the htmltext to #273; or #0273; tried copy-pasting from InDesign and FontGridMac / FontExplorer, but nothing seems to work. I cannot figure out how to do this. To me it is not important how to type these characters. I just want to display an HTML file (made by me) that contains these characters correctly. So what should the HTML file look like and how should the filed be set up? Any hints? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
iCalendar or vCard files
Hi all, Is there anyone who made an attempt to write a stack that can interpret and edit iCal files or vCard files, like used by Apple's iCal and Addressbook? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Flash in QuickTime 7?
Hi all, I tried to open a .SWF file in the QuickTime 7 Player, but it doesn't seem to work anymore. I guess Apple dropped that functionality. That probably also means that Runtime Revolution cannot play Flash movies anymore, because it relied on QuickTime to handle this... This might be important for some. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT Anyone using Tiger Yet?
Chris Carroll-Davis heeft op dinsdag, 3 mei 2005 om 15:22 (Europe/Amsterdam) het volgende geschreven: OT question for techno gurus out there: when an installer says Optimising Disk... what is it actually doing? I'd assumed it was doing stuff like repairing permissions... Optimising Disk means Updating the Prebinding. Not that I am a techno guru. I recently saw it on http://www.macdevcenter.com/lpt/a/4400 or http://www.macdevcenter.com/lpt/a/5825 Sometimes, for some (apparently) inexplicable reason, your computer slows down to a crawl after you have installed a big application. In that case, you may want to update the prebinding. This means forcing Mac OS X to go through all of the application files and make sure that they are correctly linked together. The Mac OS X default installer usually takes care of this by itself, but some third-party installers may be less cautious. You can do that manually too. To do this, simply open your Terminal and type: sudo update_prebinding -root / -force Then, enter return, type your password, and enter return again. Don't worry about the lines of text that will scroll on your Terminal. This simply means that the command is doing its work. The whole process should only take a few minutes. However, it will considerably slow your computer down and for maximum efficiency, you should not use it at the same time. Once the command has exited, immediately reboot your computer. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac / ISO XML - dumb question
Op 23-mrt-05 om 12:46 heeft jbv het volgende geschreven: Terry, Thanks for the suggestion (replacing upper ASCII chars with their #xxx; form); I've already came to that conclusion. The XML files I need to generate on-the-fly with Rev cgi feature french content, and french language uses quite a few of those upper ascii chars ()... The only thing I'm worried about is : this might be OK when opening the XML files in a browser, but what about other software (spreadsheet, word processor...) ? Will they accept #233; for (for instance) ? It probably is the only reliable way to use upper ASCII in XML in RunRev. So that reduces the options pretty much. Concerning the other programs: they should treat it right. But you may just try it. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac / ISO XML - dumb question
Op 19-mrt-05 om 16:25 heeft jbv het volgende geschreven: Hi all, I'm working on a website project using Rev cgi in which data will be sold online and available as xml files to be downloaded by customers. It seems that xml files suffer the same problem as plain text files : according to the client platform to which they'll be downloaded, end users need to have the choice between a Mac or ISO version... Or is there a way to make xml files all-platforms compatible ? You are talking about upper ASCII chars, because with 'normal' chars you wouldn't notice the difference between Mac or ISO. Many of these upper ASCII chars can be typed as euml; or #123; (the latter form is preferred). XML in RunRev does that automatically, or it chokes on these upper ASCII chars. Upper ASCII chars in XML in RunRev is not completely bug-free. It handles 'ë' nicely, but can't handle 'ä' for example. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [noob again]mailing list archive
Mikey heeft op dinsdag, 22 feb 2005 om 16:25 (Europe/Amsterdam) het volgende geschreven: Is there somewhere that the mailing list is archived so it can be searched? This is really helpful with other environments. Take a look at http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution You can search using http://www.google.com/advanced_search with lists.runrev.com in the domain field... Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Where are the newest CGI engines?
Hi listers, Now I know that the newest engine has those great XML capabilities, I want to install the newest CGI engine on both my Mac and the Linux server my site is running on. But I was not able to find them. Any suggestions? Tip to the Runrev webmaster: these engines are great and free to use; they should have an easy to find spot on the downloads page of the site. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
$HTTP_REFERER in Rev CGI globals
Hi, I need to make a CGI that uses a user name and password to determine what privileges the user has. But using the browser history, another person that uses the computer after he has closed the session, can resume it without having to know the password. Normally with CGI, PHP or ASP there is an elegant solution to it by using $HTTP_REFERER to check where the user comes from. It is also very useful to find out which search engines and link pages are actually used. But I can't find it in the list of web server globals when using a RunRev CGI. Can it be made available in any way? Is there an alternative way to be sure the user isn't using the bookmarks or the history of his browser? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Accessing other stacks in LibCGI
Hi all, While LibCGI helped me a lot in building my website, there is one issue I can't resolve yet. I have a 'content' stack and I want to access information in another stack named 'agenda'. And I can't figure out how. I tried: lock messages start using path/to/agenda.rev put functionInAgenda() into a That worked as long as I let functionInAgenda just return plain information. If I want to access a field on a card, it fails. I even tried: put url http://www.de-mare.nl/cgi-bin/form.cgi?stack=agendacmd=cmdinagenda; into a The space where the data should be inserted stayed empty, while the url itself worked OK in a browser. I also tried to mare agenda a substack of content an do: put value(functionInAgenda(),stack agenda) into a Same result. If I specify a card in agenda it can't be found. If I check the name of the first card, it gives the name of the first card of stack 'content' instead. If I add 'of stack agenda' it solves the problem in the development environment, but the webbrowser gives an infinite load time. Any suggestions? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Error message Can't find handler (was Object: value is not a boolean (true or false))
J. Landman Gay heeft op donderdag, 5 aug 2004 om 18:09 (Europe/Amsterdam) het volgende geschreven: On 8/5/04 4:09 AM, Terry Vogelaar wrote: I have a weird problem I can't solve. I get an error message Object: value is not a boolean (true or false) when calling a custom handler. The handler doesn't expect a boolean value; in fact it never arrives at the handler code, because the error occurs in the call. But the call works fine in the message box. This is a spurious error message that was being sent in version 2.2. Upgrading to version 2.2.1 fixes the problem. If you are already using 2.2.1 then we'll need to troubleshoot some more. Dar Scott heeft op donderdag, 5 aug 2004 om 18:06 (Europe/Amsterdam) het volgende geschreven: Check it in the beta. I installed 2.2.1 and tried it in the beta. The described error is gone, but there is another one now. It says Can't find handler I added a test function to both stacks with the same name to see which of the two is called. To my surprise, the one in the login stack is called! At least that explains the Can't find handler error. That is the stack with the executed script in it, but that one is closed at the moment of the call; the other stack should be the frontmost at that time and thus it should receive messages. Or am I wrong about this? Is there a way to explicitly tell RunRev which stack should handle the call? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution as CGI in OS X
J. Landman Gay heeft op donderdag, 22 apr 2004 om 07:11 (Europe/Amsterdam) het volgende geschreven: On 4/21/04 6:57 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: THanks J. But even this below is a bit beyond my understanding at this time. i THINK i know about what you are saying here but I could also be way off in my understanding as well. I am a novice. Grab the file I mentioned and I think it will all come clear. Basically what I was saying is that you need to copy the Rev engine to the server. For most operating systems, you can just use a copy of the regular Rev application. On OS X though you need a special version of the Rev engine. That engine is called the Darwin version and it can be downloaded from the RR site (there is a URL in my notes.) The Darwin engine isn't normally used for anything other than running CGIs on OS X. There is a cgi folder on most servers which is used to hold CGI scripts. My notes suggest copying the engine to that folder, though technically it doesn't have to go there. If you are just starting out though, it's easier to keep it there. My notes do assume that you know a bit about how CGIs work in general, so a little Googling on the subject might help if you've never done this stuff before. The first time you get it working, the cool factor is palpable. Jacque, I must say that your files helped me a lot, both in using RunRev as CGI and in using my MacOSX system as a test server to develop my CGIs. I may add some notes for the command-line phobics like me. Firstly I thought I had to install Apache first before I could setup my mac as test server. But it was much simpler: I just had to turn it on in the system prefs. Maybe quite obvious, but I missed it. Secondly you wrote that setting permissions is done better in the terminal than in the info panels. I found an alternative way: using an FTP program like Transmit. I just used 127.0.0.1 (the IP-number that means 'this computer') as server name, with my normal OSX name and password. That way I could browse to the files and set the permissions like I would on a remote server, without using the terminal. I know 'terminal' doesn't mean 'lethal' for computer users, but it still makes me feel uncomfortable :-) Everyone who ever successfully installed a Perl CGI on a remote server, should be able to understand everything you wrote. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
ArrowKey only sent if text cursor is in a field?
Hi all, I'm working on a multimedia app that requires that is controlled by arrow keys. To my surprise, there is only an arrowKey msg sent when the text cursor is in a field. According to the docs and my memory, it shouldn't make a difference, but it does. Is this a bug or am I overlooking something here? (RR version 2.0.3) Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 'put url http://www.site.com into var' working in standalone
Richard Gaskin heeft op maandag, 8 dec 2003 om 21:24 het volgende geschreven: When I say: put url http://www.site.com; into var the var is still empty in the standalone version. Any suggestions? Could there be something in your app's startup that prevents Rev's libraries from loading? The Distribution Builder puts Rev's libraries in a hidden group on the first card of the mainstack, and must get an preOpenBackground message to initialize. There's not enough data on your specific circumstance to know if that's the root cause, however. To investigate it you could add this at the end of your app's initialization: answer the backscripts If no rev libs are listed in that dialog there's a likelihood they are not being initialized. You are right, Richard, answer the backscripts brings up an empty dialog in the standalone. But why? It is a stack that requires a login. At first, I had the login brought up as a modal dialog in the preOpenStack handler of the main stack. What you explained makes clear why that didn't work. I figured this to be the reason too, so I made the dialog the main stack that brings up the previous main stack when a user successfully logs in. The internet access is required in the script of the login button on the only card of the main stack - the 'login dialog' that is not a dialog anymore. Could a preOpenStack handler prevent libraries from loading? I tried to add 'pass preopenstack' at the end of the handler, but that didn't resolve anything. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: System language
I must admit I didn't really follow this thread, but I know a silly way to find out (maybe it is not mentioned before): get the system weekdaynames if sunday is among the words of it then put English into the SysLang if zondag is among the words of it then put Dutch into the SysLang Don't expect sunday to always be the first line; Australian systems sometimes start with saturday. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Portable fonts and usage recommendations needed
Dar Scott heeft op zaterdag, 16 aug 2003 om 23:45 het volgende geschreven: I'm getting frustrated with fonts on multiple platforms. Why don't you try OpenType fonts? They install fine on both OSX and newer Windows versions. You will not use fonts 'like' the ones on the other platforms; but simply the same ones. Both Adobe and Microsoft have plenty of them that install fine on both platforms. And OpenType gives full Unicode possibilities. Read all info at http://www.adobe.com/type/opentype/main.html and fall in love, like I did. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: pendingmessages
Puzzle for Revolutionaries: Watch messages in realtime. There is one message you can't ever see, even though it is almost always in the pendingMessages. What message is that? idle? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: alpha
Peterson Trethewey heeft op dinsdag, 10 jun 2003 om 20:14 het volgende geschreven: Is it possible to give an image an alpha channel? What's the best way to do it? I've tried fooling with the alphaData property but it doesn't seem to want to change from its default state, and I've tried making an image with an alpha channel and importing it. Has this worked for anybody? I feel like I'm missing something obvious. Thanks, Peterson You can import PNG files which support full 8-bit transparency for really stunning use of alpha-channel transparency. Pretty neat; I use it very often. But it requires some knowledge of PhotoShop or any other program that can export PNG images. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
CGI on a Win2K server
What distribution do I need to install RR as a CGI engine on a Windows 2000 server? Can I install it myself on the server (I am on a mac)? Does my ISP need to do something? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Content management system
Has anyone made a Content management system for a Website using RunRev as CGI-app? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Flash integration
Bradley Borch heeft op zaterdag, 8 feb 2003 om 05:25 het volgende geschreven: Flash is capable of sending messages to other programs using two commands: getURL and FScommand. I've gotten both of these to work within JavaScript and Director using Lingo. Any idea how to send commands from Flash to Rev? You can run RR on a server as CGI engine and let Flash send its commands to that CGI script. I'm afraid tighter integration between Flash and RunRev is just as impossible as a relationship between miscdas and Judy Perry :-) Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Unicode inter-app exchange
Is there a way to exchange unicode between applications? More specific: I want to exchange Unicode text between runrev and Adobe InDesign, preferably using AppleScript. Can it be done? How? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cost to update Rev 2.0 to Rev 2.5
Mark Brownell heeft op zondag, 2 feb 2003 om 17:12 het volgende geschreven: I was wondering if anyone knew about the cost to upgrade if you have the aprox $999.00 pro licensed version of the current Rev development app. I searched their website for the upgrade policy and could not find information on future upgrades or time limits for free upgrades when you purchase Revolution. Upgrading costs $299 at the moment. You can find that information on their website at the online store under Professional User License. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Exporting Vector Graphics
Richard Gaskin heeft op zaterdag, 25 jan 2003 om 08:39 het volgende geschreven: This ability to export vector graphics would be at the very top of my wish list for RR. But in a multi-platform world, the question is: Which vector format is widely supported across all three OS families? PDF and EPS format would be perfect. You already can make both if you have a PostScript printer and/or Acrobat, but it involves some manual steps, the right hard/software and some knowledge. It would be great if RR could do that from within a script. BTW, shouldn't this be on the improve-list? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: if (this stack is a standalone) then ...
Is there a way to determine in a script if the stack is a standalone? Yes, just use the environment function. See the docs for details. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: System Language
Does anyone know how to get this data for Mac systems? A silly but maybe useful workaround could be to ask the system weekDayNames. But that is only useful to choose between a few languages. If it contains Saturday it is English, Zaterdag is Dutch, etc. Don't expect Sunday to be the first day of the list everyware. Australian systems start with Saturday for example. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Palette (How to?)...
What is the best way for palette creation, and is there somewhere some examples? I have made a stack for a palette, a picture in it for the different tools I need, and a global stack script based on the clicLoc for the action , but doing so, I don't find the way to hilite each tool on mouseDown... You should make a button for each tool. Each button can have proper icons for each mouse state and you can also show tooltips on mouseover. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: applescript, shell script problem
I have been using the applescript method of executing shell scripts to gret effect since I learned about the trick a couple days ago. However, I have this problem: I keep getting errors when I try and execute a shell command that contains quotes. What is the proper way of dealing with this? It is not a problem restricted to AppleScript, but there's a good way to deal with it. A quote ends the string in Transcript. So if you write: ask What do you mean with OK? it sees OK as a part that needs to be executed, because the string ended with the second quote in the line. Solution: replace every quote that needs to be part of the string like this: ask What do you mean with quote OK quote ? (or use 'single quotes' when possible) Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Background
I must have missed something but how does one put buttons and fields in the background so that they appear on every card. I am coming from HyperCard where it was very easy. It still is easy, but it is different. Just group the objects that form a 'background'. Groups replace the HC background. You only have to turn the 'backgroundBehaviour' on in the props palette. This approach is much more flexible, because you can place multiple groups on one card. In the docs: Learning Revolution-For new developers-Experienced HC/SC developers section About... Revolution for HC developers paragraph Backgrounds and groups explains it all. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
MS Access db via ODBC on Mac?
Hello all, I am developing an application that makes a real estate magazine from text data in an MS Access database. The layout part is already working - I'm using AppleScript to communicate with Adobe InDesign. But the ODBC connection gives me a headache. I can connect RR to the database on a Windows PC, but than I cannot use the AppleScript part there. Is it possible to connect with ODBC to a local MS Access database on a Mac? How? If it can't be done, could I connect to that Windows PC in any way? There is a LAN connection with that PC using PC-MAC LAN 8. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: swf files? (OT)
Do you really see such an importance for shockwave like for flash? Imho the filesize is to big. Flash is a killer because of its small size... Sometimes I think MM will let it die slowly together with Director and blow Flash then up with a Pro version up to a new Director... Not really. Directory is mainly useful for multimedia CDs using pixel pictures. Because of the popularity of the internet, the glory days of the multimedia CD are over. But there is still use for Directory, especially when you think about DVD menus. (I don't know if Directory can do that, but it could be(come) a handy tool for it). Shockwave is a way to bring these multimedia projects to the internet. However, because file sizes are much more important on the internet than on CD, Shockwave is never really efficient. There Flash comes in. This beauty is solely intended for internet animation and interactivity. It is very, very efficient when it comes to file sizes and learning to use it mainly means learning to keep the file sizes down (while making animations). Saying MM should let Director die and let Flash become a new Director sound a bit like saying Adobe should let PhotoShop die and turn Illustrator into it's successor. They both produce pictures ant they both can handle pixels and vectors, and PS files are usually larger, but still there is room for both programs. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 1.5 (now 2.0
In the cases a non-rectangular clickable area is needed, a script that does some calculations with the mouse location could provide a solution for those cases. Still there are cases imaginable where this also wouldn't help. But to introduce a true non-rectangular button just for those rare cases seems overkill. RunRev is not the right app for 100% of all the development work, but it sure covers 90 to 99%. Rare cases?? What you have on more than 50% of the sites on the net and on nearly every MM App? Sorry, but thats *not* an overkill. Thats urgently needed!! I don't underestimate the need for non-rect btns (although you probably overestimate it), but I think the cases where a non-rectangular clickable area is needed that cannot be handled by a script doing calculations with the mouse loc to determine the right action, is very rare. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Repeats repeated
Richard Gaskin heeft op zondag, 3 nov 2002 om 07:49 het volgende geschreven: Every time you count a line number it eats time. Arrays are faster for this -- check out the split and combine commands to see how to convert chunks to arrays andback again. David Vaughan heeft op zondag, 3 nov 2002 om 08:27 het volgende geschreven: I can see why repeat for each failed here - you need to extract subsets of the main list for each of the inner RFE loops for each time through its outer loop. Thus, you are extracting by line numbers and doing more work than in the first instance. RFE is fast through each sub-list but the work of continually creating new lists is an overwhelming burden. Not sure how to solve it using arrays as you seem to wind up with the same problem only this time fiddling with keys. Since Richard suggested that approach, perhaps he has something in mind. I understand now why my 2nd script was so slow thanks to David. And like David I really cannot imagine why Richard's suggestion about using arrays would contribute anything to the speed, but I tried it and it obviously worked; it reduced my (fastest) 101 seconds to 36! Thanks, Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Repeats repeated
Hi all, Last week I asked a question about filtering the double lines in a var with many lines. The list helped very well by pointing out that I shouldn't use repeat with, but repeat for each, which brought the processing time back from 60 hours to 4 seconds (!) So I tried the same technique with another script that has a triple repeat loop. The var t contains about 150 short lines and the script is intended to put every possible combination of 3 lines of t into a field: repeat with f1 = 1 to the number of lines of t - 2 put line f1 of t into g1 repeat with f2 = f1+1 to the number of lines of t - 1 put line f2 of t into g2 repeat with f3 = f2+1 to the number of lines of t put line f3 of t into g3 put g1,g2,g3 return after fld uitvoer end repeat end repeat end repeat That took 101 seconds. So I tried to speed it up with what I learned about repeat for each: put line 1 to -3 of t into t1 put 0 into f1 repeat for each line g1 in t1 add 1 to f1 put line f1+1 to -2 of t into t2 put 0 into f2 repeat for each line g2 in t2 add 1 to f2 put line f2+1 to -1 of t into t3 repeat for each line g3 in t3 put g1,g2,g3 return after fld uitvoer end repeat end repeat end repeat 364 seconds! And I thought it would be faster! It involved some extra vars, but since it is not much data processed, I don't think memory issues could explain this. Any thoughts why this is much slower than the original script and how I can speed this up? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 60 hours divided by 60 is 2 minutes?
What Rob Cozens, David Vaughan and Jan Schenkel wrote was of course much better than what I wrote in my script. I thought I needed to use repeat with i = 2 to the number of lines... instead of repeat for each, because in a repeat for each loop you cannot see the previous line. But of course you can in the previous loop! I didn't think about that. Thanks. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Ask/Answer Problem
Robert Presender heeft op dinsdag, 29 okt 2002 om 05:29 het volgende geschreven: Have a test stack with 1 fld and 1 btn. Btn Script: on mouseUp answer Please enter a name with OK or Yes or Cancel put it into fld 1 end mouseUp on mouseUp ask Please enter a name put it into fld 1 end mouseUp Both of the above scripts work OK in development (Application Overview). A dialog appears, appropriate data entered and the results are put into the field. When the the proj is doubled clicked (Rev not opened), no dialog appears but the result in the field are for each case: 1. answer plain Please enter a name 2. ask plain Please enter a name Hello Robert, Both the answer and ask dialog are part of the Revolution UI, which is not started up when you doubleclick a project with rev not open. So the dialogs don't appear and the contents of 'it' are not filled in by the dialog. I am puzzled why you get the result you get instead of literally it. Solution: start Rev first or make a standalone. I don't think there is an other solution. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
31142 lines/cards/records
I have 31142 items to keep track of and I wonder what the best approach would be to store them. Each item should have an equal number of fields, just a few, with not much text data in each. I could make a comma delimited field with 31142 lines, a stack with 31142 cards or a database with 31142 records. I need to sort them in several ways and I wonder what the fastest way is to store and access the data. Any suggestions? What are the benefits of each solution? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 31142 lines/cards/records
I have 31142 items to keep track of and I wonder what the best approach would be to store them. Each item should have an equal number of fields, just a few, with not much text data in each. I could make a comma delimited field with 31142 lines, a stack with 31142 cards or a database with 31142 records. I need to sort them in several ways and I wonder what the fastest way is to store and access the data. Any suggestions? What are the benefits of each solution? Your question is a little confusing. First you say you have 31142 items, then you say each item should have an equal number of fields. This implies you have several separate text items for each item. Sorry about the confustion. I didn't mean text items, but I had to give it a name. Maybe 'units' would have been better, because that doesn't mean anything in transcript (as far as I know). I meaned if for those units lines would be the right solution (which seems to be according to the good responce several of you gave; thank you all), those 'fields' would be text items. Otherwise it would have become a stack with cards and fields or a database with records and fields. Both _search criteria_ (what 'ways' will you want to sort on) and _content_ must be known before you can decide on preferences for setting up any system. If you don't need to categorize, a single field (scrolling I assume) might be the fastest way to find and sort, but the mechanics of scrolling through a field with that many lines will likely be painfully slow. Also, will you be adding lines? If so, where? In other words, you may need to take editing features into account. The users will not see the data as a whole, but the script presents the units one by one, alters some data and changes that line of data. Thanks for the help you all. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Setting Geometry on cloned objects
Bob Rasmussen heeft op dinsdag, 8 okt 2002 om 07:20 het volgende geschreven: Short of writing my own Geometry Manager, does anyone have any other bright ideas? Because I never trust the GeoMan, I always use 'resizeStack'. To give an example, I pasted the script of a stack that uses this technique. The stack has a divider line that sets it's own 'divid' custom prop and also calls 'arrangeElements'. It needs some typing, but it is quite simple and gives much more predictable behaviour than the GeoMan. It would be a useful contribution if anyone would write a kind of GeoMan stack that just adds a properly working resizeStack handler to the stack script. on resizeStack arrangeElements pass resizeStack end resizeStack on arrangeElements put the divid of btn Divider into perc put the width of this stack into lWidth put the height of this stack into lHeight put round((perc*(lWidth-365))+120) into L40 if L40 120 then put 120 into L40 if L40 (lWidth-245) then put (lWidth-245) into L40 set the rect of btn Divider to L40-7,52,L40+1,lHeight-4 set the rect of btn OTNT to 4,52,L40-10,lHeight-4 set the rect of btn showwhich to L40+4,104,lWidth-4,lHeight-4 set the rect of fld books to 10,76,60,lHeight-10 set the rect of fld history to 62,76,L40-14,lHeight-10 set the rect of fld shortcutnumbers to L40+6,129,L40+26,lHeight-10 set the rect of fld groups to L40+26,130,lWidth-10,lHeight-10 set the rect of fld head to L40+4,52,lWidth-4,74 set the rect of fld subhead to L40+4,77,lWidth-4,99 end arrangeElements ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Q. data stacks and app design
Why don't you just maintain the data in an external text file? Then, you can read and write it as simply as: put url (file: tFileName) into tData and put tData into url (file: tFileName) Ken Ray Sometimes this is a good solution, but there is a possible problem you have to keep in mind: When you develop for a multi-platform app and the text file is brought from one platform to another, you have to keep in mind that the text can contain upper-ascii chars (international chars, etc.). They are automatically taken care of when in a field, but you have to do that 'yourself' (call the MacToISO or the ISOToMac function) when the text is in a text file (or in a custom prop). But if a text is already ISO encoded and you use MacToISO, you get output that is incorrect on any platform. So you have to know where the text comes from to do this right. And that is not always obvious. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: XML
Rev 1.5 is still in testing. I have no clue when it will be officially released. Coming from REALbasic land, I immediately start looking for new features in the prerelease versions of Rev ;-). I could really make use of the XML parsing and the new spreadsheet control. Can anyone please spill the beans a little bit about the status of the next release beyond 1.1.1. Where can I download an alpha from, if anywhere? You have to be a pro user to be able to test the alpha versions. If you are, please contact Kevin Miller about this. If you are not, just be a bit more patient... Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Help with Html to text conversion
Anyone have a transcript script or OS X external function to convert HTML to Text? I have an external function but it wont work with OS X. This was posted by David Vaughan a couple of months ago: function stripHTML aData repeat for each line aLine in aData repeat while matchchunk(aLine,*) delete char offset(,aLine) to offset(,aLine) of aLine end repeat put aLine return after outData end repeat return outData end stripHTML I haven't tried it myself, but it looks good. This removes the tags only; the specialChars; will remain weird and unreadable. Personally I think the best way is: set the htmlText of field temp to aData put field temp into outData Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: diffdays
Would be nicer to have DateToJulian and JulianToDate functions built into the engine I agree with Richard - it would be 'nicer' to be able to do it easier. it is no more than about 20 lines of code, from a parsed date. and an option on a control card whether to use the RR built-in code or the application hand-made code. Both are nice and easy. actually it is better to have the starting days of the months in a list, i.e. 0,31,59,90,... for a non-switching year, but 0,31,60,91,... for a switching year. Could you share these 20 lines of code? I don't have a clue where to start. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: diffdays
Can someone help me to write a function that returns the difference of days between two dates ? Please don't forget the dateformat can be different from a system to another (U.S,French,German,...) Hello Yves, I don't know if this is the smartest way, but this should do it: on mouseUp put dinsdag, 9 juli 2002 into DateA convert DateA from system long date to seconds put 7/17/02 into DateB convert DateB from short date to seconds put DateA - DateB into diff divide diff by 86400 -- No of seconds in 1 day if char 1 of diff = - then delete char 1 of diff put diff end mouseUp and the message box shows the date of 10 days ago in French (or Dutch, or whatever language you are using). As long as RR can understand the date format provided, and you specify which format it is, there shouldn't be a problem. The only thing is if the data provided is in languages other then the system language of the user and English, in other words: on my system, I can only interpret Dutch or English dates; not Frech or German. Maybe a nice feature request to add a few more languages than English... Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Export to QT movie (the edge between on- and off-topic)
Is there a way to capture what RunRev displays on screen in a QuickTime movie? I'm planning to make a (kind of a) presentation using RR and put it on a SVCD or DVD. Video-data will not be used by the application; only artwork, sound and text. If the sound brings up problems, it can be handled separately. Any suggestions? Maybe a prog that captures to QT anything displayed on screen? Or maybe there is a build-in Revolutionary way that I am not aware of. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: new card with other bg
I have a substack with a few cds with the same bg (= the same grp with the bg behavior property set to true) Now I'd like to create a new cd in the same substack but this one should have another layout. How can i create a new cd with another bg ? Just make a new card with the 1st group. Then delete the group. You can do that in the 'Application Overview' or you can deselect the 'Select grouped controls' from the Edit menu, so you can select the entire group and delete it. Then you can place your new elements on the card and group them. Optionally you can set the bg behaviour on for that group as well. When you are looking at a cd with this bg and you make a new cd, this bg will be copied, and when you see a cd with that other bg, that one will appear on new cds as well. When you know it, it is simple. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: selecting ALL lines in list field
select line 1 to -1 of field myField Thanks! That works fine with no repeats. I'm not sure how it works. I don't really understand it. But thanks! Well, -1 means last. You can use this in several other ways. Like when you want to remove the 3-character-extension of a file name, you can type: delete char -4 to -1 of filename.jpg Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Impatient script
In a repeat loop I bring up a dialog (a stack opened as 'modal') to fill in some additional info when needed. But while the dialog is waiting for user input, the repeat loop continues! How do I let the script wait until the user responds to the dialog? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Puzzling with ads on magazine pages
I need to make a program that figures out how a couple of rectangles fit best into a number of larger rects. OK, this sounds too cunfusing. I need to make a program that fits several advertisements on 12 magazine pages. And I want Revolution to figure out what ad should be placed where. None of the ads has a standard width or height. The ads don't need to align, however. As long as they fit and as long as they don't overlap. Challenging, isn't it? Any suggestions to get started? Terry http://www.discovery.nl ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Nasty script stays disobedient
I have a script that makes a button on another stack. Making a new button automatically selects the pointer tool, but afterwards the browse tool should be selected again. That is where it gets annoying. When I add 'choose browse tool' in that script, the pointer tool stays selected. When I repeat it a few times, the pointer tool stays selected. Even when I use all-capitals, enlarge the font size and use bold for that sentence in the script editor, it won't listen. That nasty little script should take an example form the message box! I only once have to type 'choose browse tool' et voila! No problemos! Should I spank it? If so, how and where? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Applescript variable contents
Hm... I don't get it. There's no line ApplescriptFunction which contains a return command. Isn't that necessary to obtain a return value from a function? When I made this function, I planned to write the part that returns a value when the rest was finished. But when I started to test it, it already returned the proper values! In other words: I don't get it too! :-) But it works just fine. Try it. Terry http://www.discovery.nl get AppleScriptFunction(nameOfFunction, path:to:file, 1, 2, three, four) Mind that on Mac OS classic you need to use colons in the path (2nd param), while on Mac OS X you must use slashes. Then in the stack-script you can put: function AppleScriptFunction aFun, aFile put set theScript to load script (alias quoteaFilequote)return \ tell theScript to aFun( into ASfunc if paramcount() 2 then repeat with e = 3 to paramcount() put param(e) into f if param(e) is a number then put f , after ASfunc else put quote f quote , after ASfunc end if end repeat else put after ASfunc end if put ) into last char of ASfunc do ASfunc as applescript end AppleScriptFunction Now you can call any function with any number of parameters. The value that is returned by the AppleScript-function is returned by AppleScriptFunction as well. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to use tab UI widgets?
I'm wondering how I use the tab widgets. I create the widget, then drag some UI elements on to page 1 and now want to go to page 2 and do the same. I've noticed that the widgets don't seem to be putting themselves on a tab pane. A tab is actually just a button used as a menu. When you click on the rightmost tab of the properties palette, you can name the tabs. Then in the script of the button, you put a script like: on menuPick pWhich switch pWhich case firsttab hide group secondstuff show group firststuff break case secondtab hide group firststuff show group secondstuff break end switch end menuPick Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Time field (please help)
How do you get the field to display live time? Try using on idle in the script of the field. The use of 'on idle' should be avoided. Instead, write a handler in the script of the field that is called by an openCard handler: send updateTime to field Now and let the handler call itself in 1 second: on updateTime put the long time into me send updateTime to me in 1 second end updateTime ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Time field (please help)
Question: What happens when the user goes to another card or another stack? Must one take some action on closeCard/closeStack to stop updateTime from continuing to send messages every second? I suppose so long as there is no updateTime handler in the current message hierarchy the last updateTime message will not be handled; however, in general I'm leary of starting continuous loops without scripting a means to stop the loop if desired or necessary. And, in truth, I don't know what RunRev does when instructed to send a message to a control that is no longer in the message hierarchy. Can someone reduce my fooleshness on this subject? I wondered about this myself too. I must admit I didn't try it yet. But this technique is the advised scripting technique to avoid 'on idle'. So if it would create an infinate loop, it wouldn't be 'better' then 'on idle', but worse. Terry http://www.discovery.nl ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Plain text posts
COMPLIMENTS Ian and Sarah: Thank you for your earlier, you got me started in the right direction and I know have a much better understanding of Revolution (although I am sure i have only scratched the surface)... /COMPLIMENTS (I hope that isn't considered a non-plain text message.. ;-) ) Of course I get the joke, but the funny thing is that it was indeed a non-plain text message! What our wise mother Heather was talking about was HTML-encoded messages, which mess up the digests and the list-archives. It is kinda tricky because most e-mail clients make HTML-encoded messages by default. It is not only the use of fonts, sizes and styles that make a message HTML-encoded, but even the ABILITY to use them, indicates that the message is HTML-encoded. Terry http://www.discovery.nl ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT -- Animation Programs
FLASH! Definitely Flash. Flash is able to make animations, movies and interactive projects of any kind. It is mainly a vector-based program, but it handles pixel data as well. Terry http://www.discovery.nl Van: Sivakatirswami [EMAIL PROTECTED] Beantwoord: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 18:21:45 -1000 Aan: Metacard List [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: OT -- Animation Programs Forgive this off topic query, but I can't think of a better group to give recommendations: If you had to purchase animation/cartooning software for your art director/artists, (already fluent in Adobe PS and IL) what would be your choice? End product would be anything from simple animated GIF's to movie cartoons. (email me off list) Thanks Hinduism Today Sivakatirswami Editor's Assistant/Production Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.HinduismToday.com, www.HimalayanAcademy.com, www.Gurudeva.org, www.hindu.org Read The Master Course Lesson of the Day at http://www.gurudeva.org/lesson.shtml ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Ready-made buttons and fields
It would be great if one of you knowledgeable rev people would create a stack of ready made buttons and ready made fields. Some of you remember that hypercard included these in their software. These sure would help beginning programers. They could be posted for download at Runrev. Anybody interested. It should be mentioned that RR has more ready-to-use stuff than HC, because RR has a whole series of field tools instead of one. That counts for the button tools as well. Besides that, there is the library with some prefab stuff. Then again, I miss some items like an example on how the progress bar works (you rev people probably thought that because RR is so fast, nobody would use a progress bar ;-). Other things I like to see in the library are: - images in text fields - a standard menubar with all the commonly used items properly working (new, close, save, print, quit, undo, cut, copy, paste, find, help, about) - a standard toolbar with those same items - a good script that dims/disables the items in the toolbar/menubar that are not available - read and write data to a properly formatted XML file that uses a DTD These are things that kept me occupied quite a while. Most of them are solved, some others (like dimming 'undo' when not available) not. I am working on XML handling at the moment, because I think XML should be the way all data should be stored. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: resizing window via card properties
I cannot figure out how to resize a window via the card properties, the width/height settings there are not focused (active), and therefore cannot be adjusted. I can adjust the window size from the stack-properties, but that sizes all the cards/windows. I want to be able to size each card/window separately. Isn't each card a window? I am confused. Not each card is a window, but each stack is a window. So you can do two things: - Make a substack for each card with another size. - Write a preOpenCard handler in each card script that resizes the stack to the proper dimensions. Which of the two is best depends on your project. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Wordwrapping formattedWidth/Height
This one is silly, but I still need to figure it out. A field has wordwrapping on (dontWrap is off). The width is set to a certain width. Then it is simple to get the formattedHeight. But now the other way around. I need to know what the width of a field must be to have a field with a certain height. Should I loop through every possible width, see what the formattedHeight is and stop the loop when the requested formattedHeight is found? Or is there a smarter way? FormattedWidth doesn't help much here, because it depends on the real width of the field. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Will the script editing quirks be fixed?
Am I the only one suffering from the problem of the auto completion of things like on repeat putting the end repeat before another line: Put 1 into x Put 2 into y If I type on repeat between the two: Put 1 into x On repeat Put 2 into y Revolution puts in: Put 1 into x On repeat End repeatput2 into y The problem is actually a handy feature which looks like a bug when you don't know what happens. If you type repeat and a return, the end repeat is automatically filled in, because the repeat has to end somewhere. The solution is very simple: don't position the cursor before line two, but after line one. Then you begin with a return and then you type on repeat. BTW, don't you just mean repeat? Because when you write on repeat, you are making a new handler called repeat, while you probably just want to have something repeated... Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drawing tools in standalone
Just a litle question about the Rev 1.1.1 update: will it be free for the Rev 1.1 registred users ? After registering, you will have ALL the updates free for a whole year. After that year, your license will work for the versions released during that year, but new versions will not work with your serial number. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Uploading a file the webform way
I know it is possible to upload files using the FTP-protocol. I also know it is possible to send messages to a web server just like a HTML-form would send messages. But is it also possible to upload files that way? Like a HTML-form that has a INPUT type=file? (I realize not all listers will understand what I am talking about; sorry.) Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AppleScript functions made easy
In HyperCard I had a stack with a lot of AppleScript functions. Because RR treads AppleScript differently, I tried to make a function which may come in handy for others as well. The basic idea is that you store the AS-functions in a separate file; a normal AppleScript-file. No custom props or fields needed, so you don't have to work with a copy of the script, but you can work with the original, which saves time when the AppleScript function is still in development. Then you must know the path and the name of the function in the file. You call it with: get AppleScriptFunction(nameOfFunction, path:to:file, 1, 2, three, four) Mind that on Mac OS classic you need to use colons in the path (2nd param), while on Mac OS X you must use slashes. Then in the stack-script you can put: function AppleScriptFunction aFun, aFile put set theScript to load script (alias quoteaFilequote)return \ tell theScript to aFun( into ASfunc if paramcount() 2 then repeat with e = 3 to paramcount() put param(e) into f if param(e) is a number then put f , after ASfunc else put quote f quote , after ASfunc end if end repeat end if put ) into last char of ASfunc do ASfunc as applescript end AppleScriptFunction Now you can call any function with any number of parameters. The value that is returned by the AppleScript-function is returned by AppleScriptFunction as well. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Looks like HyperCard
Troy Rollins wrote: This has come up several times in this group. The gist is this - double-clicking a stack opens it, sans the Rev UI. Open the stack in Rev, or create a stand-alone, and all is well. Basically, double-clicking a stack which is not a stand-alone, opens it in Rev in some strange way that no one actually wants to do. ;) Jeanne replied: Well, that's not exactly true. ;-) It's a useful mode for testing before you build your actual standalone...but it's pretty much the same thing you get with Suspend Revolution UI in the Development menu. I thought Troy was right, but Jeanne is the only known exception, so he wasn't speaking the truth, because he said no one actually want it. ;-) I think doubleclicking a stack should start up the Rev UI as well. When someone wants to test, he/she can use the Suspend UI command. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Employee Database Tutorial broken on OS X?
First, there is a mongo button covering up the majority of the data entry fields. I can't for the life of me figure out what it is or why it's there but it sure makes the stack ugly and almost unusable. This is the image button, click on it to select an image. The image is meant to appear on or over the button, but this doesn't seem to always work in the OS X version either. Neighter does it work on Mac OS classic 9.2.2 here. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Running a Stack from the Web
When you choose Check for Updates Online, Revolution has a stack posted on their web site which they open by calling: go stack URL http://www.runrev.com/revolution/revupdates.rev; as modeless Would anyone know why it works for them, but when I post a stack, I get stack is corrupted, check for ~ backup file? I have tried using the Standalone Builder to make a stack... That didn't make a difference. Got any ideas? Are you sure you have sent the stack to your server using FTP in BINARY mode (not ASCII or autodetect)? Accidentally using ASCII mode is the most common technique to mess up computer data. I use it all the time ;-) Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
The check in a menu item
In a menu I have 3 items that can be checked. When the check appears in the 1st item, it should be removed from the 2nd and the 3rd item, and so on. But there is something about checking I don't understand. When I want a menu-item to be checked, I put !c before the line of that item. But when I want to move the check from that item to another, I get (or RR gets) confused. If I just remove the !c from the first line and then add !c to the second, I have 2 items checked instead of one. But when I remove replace the !c with a !n, the check is gone. Then I check a third item. Then chaos begins. !n is visible in the 1st item. And the more I swap the menus, the more !n!n!ns I see. With a lot of extra scripting, I managed to let it work reasonably reliable. But I've got a feeling it should be less complex. BTW, why is there a !n or a !u anyway? I think the check/diamond should be gone as soon as the !c/!r is gone. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: remove from memory doesn't
I have a stack in file foo.rev. Revolution is open; I save the stack and do close and remove from memory. In the finder I copy foo.rev = foo copy.rev; I drag this stack onto Revolution. Now if I click a button for editing I get a message A stack with the same name as the one you are trying to load is already open What really is happening here is that the name of the file is not the name of the stack. So both 'foo.rev' and 'foo copy.rev' are probably called foo in RR. That confuses both RR and us humans. The solution is that you purge the stack in the application manager before opening the copy. Groetjes, Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Multilingual interface
Hi all, Who has bright ideas on how to handle multilingual projects? Creating two (or more) separate stacks gives a lot of extra work; especially during development. I was thinking about some kind of a language-preference that gives all the buttons another label and give some fields another content. The main problem is that I don't understand how I can change the content of a menu. There is something about dynamically changing a menu in the Rev Encyclopedia: About menus and the menu bar. I have to put a mousedown handler in the group. But what should it contain? Are there any examples of it? Also, would I need to extend the switch stucture like: on menuPick pWhich switch pWhich case Save case Bewaar -- Dutch for 'Save' saveStuff break case Quit case Stop -- Dutch; well that doesn't have to be explained quitStuff break end switch end menuPick Finally, can I discover what language the OS is, so I can set the standard language preference setting of my stack to it? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
