AW: corrupted rev file transforming from Win to Mac
Seeing no comments on my topic, helps me to believe that I experienced a really seldom problem, which I hopefully won't encounter twice. Actually I even don't know what was really going on with my file. The explanations where just a theory, which I can't reproduce. Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Tiemo Hollmann TB Gesendet: Montag, 15. November 2010 10:40 An: 'How to use Revolution' Betreff: corrupted rev file transforming from Win to Mac Hi, perhaps this is for interest in case someone makes similar experiences. I don't know, what is going on behind the scenes, when rev files are copied between Mac and Windows platforms, but there must be something going on like codepage converting and this can led to corruption under unknown circumstances. The first thing was that I found one day corrupted german Umlaute in some scripts, when I opened my rev file on Mac, coming from a Win 2003 Server. The corrupted Umlaute broke the execution of some handlers, because there where not only Umlaute in comments, but they had also Umlaute in their names. I ignored it, corrected the handler names to names without Umlaute and didn't cared any more. In the last month I had two more strange problems, which were hard to dig down. First was a thing, that suddenly from now to then my Valentina DB App couldn't work anymore with german Umlaute any more - only on Mac. After long investigating the Valentina guys found a bug fix for it. The second was last weeks post that the effective filename returned backslashes instead of slashes from now to then in one special stack. I thought it was dependent on LiveCode 4.5.1. In both cases it seems to show that originally it had nothing to do with Valentina (though the patch worked good) or LiveCode, but of my special Rev file (though in the case of Valentina it could be reproduced with other files). Looking back I think that both theses problems showed up in the same rev files. Because of a other new bug last week I digged out an old version of my rev files and yes, none of my odd bugs showed up in this old file. Without knowing, what is the background behind the scenes, I assume, that apparently there must be some possibility of corruption of rev files. If the reason is indeed the transformations between the platforms I don't know. If there are other chances to corrupt a rev file, I don't know. Nevertheless I will take my old and clean rev file and reengineer the last features by hand into the old file and dump my last three current (and corrupted) versions of my rev file. And in future, when experiencing an unusual bug from now to then, which nobody else has ever seen, I will first go back to my latest file and dump the current file because of corruption. This is not a nice procedure and up to now I thought Rev files would never go corrupted, but I can deal with it, because I have worked for with Toolbook, where file corruption was a daily event over years and years and frequent, hourly backups where life saving. Thanks Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
corrupted rev file transforming from Win to Mac
Hi, perhaps this is for interest in case someone makes similar experiences. I don't know, what is going on behind the scenes, when rev files are copied between Mac and Windows platforms, but there must be something going on like codepage converting and this can led to corruption under unknown circumstances. The first thing was that I found one day corrupted german Umlaute in some scripts, when I opened my rev file on Mac, coming from a Win 2003 Server. The corrupted Umlaute broke the execution of some handlers, because there where not only Umlaute in comments, but they had also Umlaute in their names. I ignored it, corrected the handler names to names without Umlaute and didn't cared any more. In the last month I had two more strange problems, which were hard to dig down. First was a thing, that suddenly from now to then my Valentina DB App couldn't work anymore with german Umlaute any more - only on Mac. After long investigating the Valentina guys found a bug fix for it. The second was last weeks post that the effective filename returned backslashes instead of slashes from now to then in one special stack. I thought it was dependent on LiveCode 4.5.1. In both cases it seems to show that originally it had nothing to do with Valentina (though the patch worked good) or LiveCode, but of my special Rev file (though in the case of Valentina it could be reproduced with other files). Looking back I think that both theses problems showed up in the same rev files. Because of a other new bug last week I digged out an old version of my rev files and yes, none of my odd bugs showed up in this old file. Without knowing, what is the background behind the scenes, I assume, that apparently there must be some possibility of corruption of rev files. If the reason is indeed the transformations between the platforms I don't know. If there are other chances to corrupt a rev file, I don't know. Nevertheless I will take my old and clean rev file and reengineer the last features by hand into the old file and dump my last three current (and corrupted) versions of my rev file. And in future, when experiencing an unusual bug from now to then, which nobody else has ever seen, I will first go back to my latest file and dump the current file because of corruption. This is not a nice procedure and up to now I thought Rev files would never go corrupted, but I can deal with it, because I have worked for with Toolbook, where file corruption was a daily event over years and years and frequent, hourly backups where life saving. Thanks Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: slash and backslash in effective filename - why?
Hi Bob, hmm, that is an interesting hint. My development folders are indeed on a windows server with a mapped share. But creating a new test stack, once saved on my local windows drive and a second time saved on the mapped server drive, both times the effective filename returns a path with slashes. In my real life application same call returns a path with backslashes. So there must be some more dependencies what changes the behavior of the effective filename. So I will always have to check first if there are slashes or backslashes in my effective filename and depending on that result I will set the itemdel appropriate, because I never can be sure anymore, what is returned. Pretty weired. Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Bob Sneidar Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. November 2010 17:48 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: slash and backslash in effective filename - why? Back slashes are used in netbios network share names. \\my-server\data is how you would refer to a share on a PC using the netbios convention. Apple uses a different method, with fully qualified domain names ex. sbm://my-server.lan/data. Once you have the volume mounted though, you would use the mount point /volumes/data. Might a file you are refrencing be a netbios volume? Bob On Nov 10, 2010, at 3:04 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hi all, LiveCode 4.5.1, Win 7 I have two stacks, a main stack and a second stack as a separate stack file where I switch to by go to stack. In both preopenstack handlers I create some working pathes by extracting items out of my effective filename. To handle the items I have to set the itemdel to slash. From now to then while testing some other features suddenly I didn't got any pathes returned anymore, because of the itemdel slash. When asking for the effective filename of this stack, I get in the first stack a path with slashes and in the second stack with backslashes and therefore the items of my effective filename where empty. I tested with Rev 3.5, because I thought it has something to do with LiveCode but the path in my second stack contains also backslashes - BUT nevertheless the delimeter slash works and it returns chunks of my path. Then I created two new empty stacks, jumped with go from one to another, but got slash pathes on both stacks. My workaround now is to set the itemdel to backslash on windows, but this can't be the straight way, because the last years it worked with slash as itemdel on both systems. Has anybody encountered this behavior or has an idea what may cause this behavior? Thanks Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: slash and backslash in effective filename - why?
Not a stack, but other files in subdirectories related to my standalone. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Bob Sneidar Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. November 2010 17:59 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: slash and backslash in effective filename - why? Hmmm... are you trying to use the effective filename to locate a stack inside of a bundle? Bob On Nov 10, 2010, at 3:04 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hi all, LiveCode 4.5.1, Win 7 I have two stacks, a main stack and a second stack as a separate stack file where I switch to by go to stack. In both preopenstack handlers I create some working pathes by extracting items out of my effective filename. To handle the items I have to set the itemdel to slash. From now to then while testing some other features suddenly I didn't got any pathes returned anymore, because of the itemdel slash. When asking for the effective filename of this stack, I get in the first stack a path with slashes and in the second stack with backslashes and therefore the items of my effective filename where empty. I tested with Rev 3.5, because I thought it has something to do with LiveCode but the path in my second stack contains also backslashes - BUT nevertheless the delimeter slash works and it returns chunks of my path. Then I created two new empty stacks, jumped with go from one to another, but got slash pathes on both stacks. My workaround now is to set the itemdel to backslash on windows, but this can't be the straight way, because the last years it worked with slash as itemdel on both systems. Has anybody encountered this behavior or has an idea what may cause this behavior? Thanks Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
slash and backslash in effective filename - why?
Hi all, LiveCode 4.5.1, Win 7 I have two stacks, a main stack and a second stack as a separate stack file where I switch to by go to stack. In both preopenstack handlers I create some working pathes by extracting items out of my effective filename. To handle the items I have to set the itemdel to slash. From now to then while testing some other features suddenly I didn't got any pathes returned anymore, because of the itemdel slash. When asking for the effective filename of this stack, I get in the first stack a path with slashes and in the second stack with backslashes and therefore the items of my effective filename where empty. I tested with Rev 3.5, because I thought it has something to do with LiveCode but the path in my second stack contains also backslashes - BUT nevertheless the delimeter slash works and it returns chunks of my path. Then I created two new empty stacks, jumped with go from one to another, but got slash pathes on both stacks. My workaround now is to set the itemdel to backslash on windows, but this can't be the straight way, because the last years it worked with slash as itemdel on both systems. Has anybody encountered this behavior or has an idea what may cause this behavior? Thanks Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Is it Rev, is it Valentina, is it MacOS? Need help! - SOLVED
Hello, Just wanted to let you know, that it was indeed a bug in Valentina with IOEncoding and it is as Version 4.8b1 fixed Why it has worked before (without this fix) nobody can explain... So everybody using non latin chars can use Valentina again. Tiemo Hi all, Ruslan and Ivan from the Valentina List also tested and confirmed the bug, but also can't explain what is going on. Here is my last dialog from the Valentina list. Perhaps anybody can see any relation to any other experience? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Is it Rev, is it Valentina, is it MacOS? Need help!
Hi all, Ruslan and Ivan from the Valentina List also tested and confirmed the bug, but also can't explain what is going on. Here is my last dialog from the Valentina list. Perhaps anybody can see any relation to any other experience? From Valentina list: are the postings from Ruslan: Hi Ruslan, but it displays all Umlaute with wrong symbols Font problem ? I have never changed anything with the fonts in my program, still using standard Tahoma, no special settings on the fields * Ivan have test REV 3.5 and REV 4.0 -- same problem for him So it not looks like REV have changed something * Ivan say that on WIN and MAC it not works for him. Not 3.5 not 4.0 You say that WIN works for you ... Strange ... Yes definatly it works on Win with both versions (I am using IOEncoding Latin1) and not on Mac (using IOEncoding Macintosh) with any version This means for me ... That problem is A) in REV itself But above Ivan confirms, that it is in 3.5 and 4.0, so it can't be Rev. I am puzzeled B) in Fonts of Window / controls that get this string ... Nothing changed there I also tried Peter Maleckis advice to use: set the unicodeText of fld data_from_valentina to uniencode(cursor_variable,UTF8) but the result is the same, it shows only the same specials chars for Umlaute. I did not ask Ivan, if he have try this test REV CODE: put Some strings with accents into v1 save v1 to field of cursor read field of cursor into v2 v1 and v2 must be the same byte to byte ... I tested it and it the same So what do we learn about all this? My code didn't changed, Rev didn't changed, Valentina didn't changed... I even restored OSX from January (where it still worked) What is going on here? Thanks for any care Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: How to restore a complete HD on Mac?
Hi, I have done several backups of my Mac HD with time machine, but have never had the need to restore. Because of my unsolved Rev-Valentina-GermanUmlaute problem I want to restore my complete HD from time machine, because I think it only can be a bug in any Update of Mac OS within the last few month. Now, when starting the restore of time machine I selected all Folders of Macintosh HD from the wanted timestamp I get the error: The object User can't be changed or deleted, because it is used from Mac OS X. What am I doing wrong? How to restore the complete HD? Thanks for any hint Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: OT: How to restore a complete HD on Mac?
Oh thanks Phil, I could have thought about that, but coming from windows, sometimes I still think Macs can do magic things without caring about the basic techniques :) Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Phil Jimmieson Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. Juli 2010 11:12 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: OT: How to restore a complete HD on Mac? Hi Tiemo, if you start up your Mac with a system installation disk rather than its built-in disk, there's an option on that to restore from a Time Machine backup (and since you're booted from another disk nothing on your built-in disk ought to be in use). On 21 Jul 2010, at 10:01, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hi, I have done several backups of my Mac HD with time machine, but have never had the need to restore. Because of my unsolved Rev-Valentina- GermanUmlaute problem I want to restore my complete HD from time machine, because I think it only can be a bug in any Update of Mac OS within the last few month. Now, when starting the restore of time machine I selected all Folders of Macintosh HD from the wanted timestamp I get the error: The object User can't be changed or deleted, because it is used from Mac OS X. What am I doing wrong? How to restore the complete HD? Thanks for any hint Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Jimmieson p...@liverpool.ac.uk (UK) 0151 795 4236 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Is it Rev, is it Valentina, is it MacOS? Need help!
Hi, I now have set my OS X 10.5.8 back to January from my backup I having made a fresh install of Valentina 4.7 and Rev 4.0 I am still using IOEncoding Macintosh (UTF-8 didn't worked) Now it shows, that I CAN SELECT again data with Umlaute, but it displays all Umlaute with wrong symbols, as if I someone doesn't handles the font set or code page not correctly. As I said before, I don't use any special char sets and I didn't changed anything related in my existing prog, wher it has run before. And I don't know where I could change anything between Valentina and Rev for testing more cases. What has changed in between Valentina and Rev? Something with Unicode-changes? Has anybody seen this behavior - perhaps not with Valentina, but another DB? Any hint are highly appreciated Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Tiemo Hollmann TB Gesendet: Freitag, 16. Juli 2010 11:31 An: 'How to use Revolution' Betreff: Is it Rev, is it Valentina, is it MacOS? Need help! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Is it Rev, is it Valentina, is it MacOS? Need help!
Hello, tracking down a mysterious error since days and days I am stuck now. It is such a strange error that probably nobody has ever had this particular problem, but perhaps somebody can find any relation to any other experience and bring me up on the road again. My standard development environment is Windows (was XP and now Win7), but I also have the environment on Mac. My standard procedure was to build also the Mac standalone on Win and just add the Valentina drivers on Mac after having copied the standalone to Mac (which has worked fine). The Error appears in the standalone only on Mac, on Win it still runs fine I have a dictionary rev app with a Valentina DB, which run fine over a year. After one of the last Updates, which wasnt related to any Valentina handler, I got two errors on startup, a function in a substack threw an error and my very first Valentina_init statement failed. I (actually Mark S.!) could get to run the substack again after having removed a german Umlaut from a function. But the fail of Valentiny_Init remained. At the very first Valentina Call (VDatabase_IsOpen) it throws me off without any result or syserror. When trapping the function with try-catch I get error in function handler no hint. So I decided to build the standalone on the Mac and the error seemed to be gone, I build the next release and delivered to my customers until I got weird support calls from my Mac customers that they can not select any more any words with german Umlaute äüöß from the DB. Everything else works fine with the new release. The Valentina DB can be opened and seems to work almost normally. Btw. Displaying datas with german Umlaute works OK (the IOEncoding of the Valentina DB is Macintosh). Its just the selecting. But searching (SELECT) for words with Umlaute is an essential feature in a german dictionary! I tried to reproduce the error on my machine and yes, I cant select any Umlaute any more. That means with selecting any words containing an Umlaut, the result list remains just empty. What I tested: - Building the Mac standalone on Win: it fails on the very first Valentina statement - Building the Mac standalone on Mac: no fatal fail, but selecting Umlaute returns empty - Taking an old DB from a functioning release or a new DB: same problem - Reinstalling Valentina: same problem - Testing with Rev 3.5 and 4.0: same problem - The old standalone builds: still run fine on the same machine - Running an old rev file in development environment: same problem - Testing another test app with Valentina shows the same result, so the problem is not in the code of my file - I copied an old standalone bundle on the Mac, which still runs fine. After that I copied the newly created app into this old bundle and it works! STRANGE! What does this tell us? I dont know enough of the depths of the Mac. It looks as if the problem is with the integration of the Valentina drivers (because it runs with the old package), but I compared every single file in the packages and the newly created package with the Valentina drivers looks exactly the same as the old packages. And even if it is a case of the Valentina drivers, who could this affect just the handling of the Umlaute? It almost appears to me that there came any conflict between MacOS and Valentina and/or Rev with any MacOS Update. Has anybody ever encountered such a case (probably not with Valentina, but perhaps something similar)? I posted already to the Valentina List, but this problem seems to be too strange to get help. Any idea or hint what I could do or test is highly appreciated Thanks Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: Dock Icon duplicates when launching my app
Hello, When launching my App from the dock icon, it duplicates itself to the right side of the dock icons. After quitting my app the duplicated icon gets off again. I don't experience this behavior with other apps. What is special on my rev app, or what did I do wrong? Is this just a special behavior or could it lead to any problems? I am missing Mac Know How. Thanks for any hint Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: systemVersion for win7
NT 6.1 Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Hugh Senior Gesendet: Freitag, 18. Juni 2010 09:14 An: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Betreff: systemVersion for win7 Can someone let me know that the systemVersion returns when using Windows7, please? Thank you. /H ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to implement a timebased reminder?
Hello, I would like to create a timebased reminder (like a reminder from a calendar app), which runs the whole day in the background/ as a task icon (windows) or gadget and reminds me in settable intervals about anything. How do you realize this kind of app with using a minimum of the processor power? Using idle and idlerate or any kind of loop or perhaps something completely different? Which would be the less consuming approach? Any hint welcome Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: How to implement a timebased reminder?
Hi Klaus, yes I tried it already with ditto, but my Win7 machine started smoking and making funny noise! Using send in in a self calling handler to get the infinite loop or what would be the calling handler? Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Klaus on-rev Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Juni 2010 13:39 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: How to implement a timebased reminder? Hi Tiemo, Hello, I would like to create a timebased reminder (like a reminder from a calendar app), which runs the whole day in the background/ as a task icon (windows) or gadget and reminds me in settable intervals about anything. How do you realize this kind of app with using a minimum of the processor power? Using idle and idlerate or any kind of loop or perhaps something completely different? Do not use IDLE! Which would be the less consuming approach? Any hint welcome this also can be done with ditto :-D No, just kidding, use send ... in... for this purpose! Tiemo Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: How to implement a timebased reminder?
Thanks Jim and Klaus for your helpful ideas Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Jim Ault Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Juni 2010 14:01 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: How to implement a timebased reminder? make a check box button on mouseup callMyStackScriptTimer end mouseUp on callMyStackScriptTimer waitSecs if waitSecs is empty then put 10 into waitSecs if the hilight of btn timerStatus is true then -- do these commands send callMyStackScriptTimer in waitSecs seconds end if end callMyStackScriptTimer --now the script can be called by different routines --setting the hilight of the check box will stop any 'send in' calls --obviously, if your mouseup turns off the check box, the loop will skip the tasks This is just one way of accomplishing the task. Jim Ault Las Vegas On Jun 11, 2010, at 4:51 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hi Klaus, yes I tried it already with ditto, but my Win7 machine started smoking and making funny noise! Using send in in a self calling handler to get the infinite loop or what would be the calling handler? Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Klaus on-rev Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Juni 2010 13:39 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: How to implement a timebased reminder? Hi Tiemo, Hello, I would like to create a timebased reminder (like a reminder from a calendar app), which runs the whole day in the background/ as a task icon (windows) or gadget and reminds me in settable intervals about anything. How do you realize this kind of app with using a minimum of the processor power? Using idle and idlerate or any kind of loop or perhaps something completely different? Do not use IDLE! Which would be the less consuming approach? Any hint welcome this also can be done with ditto :-D No, just kidding, use send ... in... for this purpose! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: How to launch an app invisible?
Hello, the flashing window is still there. My rev launcher app is hidden in preopenstack, the launched non-rev-app doesn't have that flashing window either. So I think it must be the Windows shell window, which blinks up for a moment. I put a lockscreen in the handler with the shell call without result. Probably because lockscreen has no effect on the shell. I used the same syntax before to call other apps and never had this flashing window, so I wonder what makes the difference and what I can do against a flashing shell? Any way to hide the shell before it pops up? Here is an extract of the code: on openStack set the lockscreen to true put appToLaunch into tStart put myTitel into tTitel get shell (start quote tTitel quote quote tStart) set the lockscreen to false end openStack Thanks for any idea Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Tiemo Hollmann TB Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. Juni 2010 20:07 An: 'How to use Revolution' Betreff: AW: How to launch an app invisible? Hi Jeff and Mark, I forgot to say that the target platform is Win. I tried Jeffs approach first without result. But because of your quick replies I started thinking if my ghost-windows perhaps doesn't comes from my rev launcher, but from the other (non-rev) app, I want to launch... I think have to dig in that direction Thank you for your replies Tiemo subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: How to launch an app invisible?
Thank you Scott! that did the trick - and now I remember obviously having seen this statement before, but my brain didn't got it out of the box :) Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Scott Rossi Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Juni 2010 10:17 An: Revolution Mail List Betreff: Re: AW: How to launch an app invisible? Locking the screen only applies to Rev stacks -- this doesn't affect any non-Rev windows. You can try running this right before calling your shell command: set the hideConsoleWindows to true get shell. Otherwise, you may have to employ some kind of invisible flag setting in the shell command which I don't know. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to launch an app invisible?
Sorry, I know this must have been asked a couple of times, but I didn't got the right search terms for the archives. I want to build a tiny launcher app to launch another app and quits afterwards, without any notice for the user, so that he doesn't even knows of its existence. Technically everything is easy, beside I don't get the launcher totally invisible. I tried it with setting the stack property invisible. Hiding the stack at startup, setting the topleft to -1000,-1000 at startup, getting rid of every title controls, BUT whatever I try, a window frame (which is much larger as the stack size) blinks up for a moment, before the launcher disappears. It's just a nice to have, but I am sure there must be an easy solution. Thank you Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: How to launch an app invisible?
Hi Jeff and Mark, I forgot to say that the target platform is Win. I tried Jeffs approach first without result. But because of your quick replies I started thinking if my ghost-windows perhaps doesn't comes from my rev launcher, but from the other (non-rev) app, I want to launch... I think have to dig in that direction Thank you for your replies Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Mark Schonewille Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. Juni 2010 19:58 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: How to launch an app invisible? Hi Tiemo, I found the following on the internet somewhere, I think it was the AppleScript newsgroup. - Open de application package to see its contents. - open the Contents folder - Open the file info.plist in a text editor and add the following two lines inside the outermost dict/dict tags: keyNSBGOnly/key string1/string Example: dict [lots o' XML, possibly including other nested dict/dict tags] keyNSBGOnly/key string1/string /dict The following two lines should also work: keyNSUIElement/key string1/string but the latter solution hasn't been confirmed. If you tried it, let us know. This applies to Mac OS X only. I think (guess) that hiding the window suffices on Windows. More info in the archives at http://qurl.tk/bn -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new projects. Contact me for a quote http://economy-x-talk.com/contact.html Download Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com and share the clipboard of your computer over the local network. On 1 jun 2010, at 19:48, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Sorry, I know this must have been asked a couple of times, but I didn't got the right search terms for the archives. I want to build a tiny launcher app to launch another app and quits afterwards, without any notice for the user, so that he doesn't even knows of its existence. Technically everything is easy, beside I don't get the launcher totally invisible. I tried it with setting the stack property invisible. Hiding the stack at startup, setting the topleft to -1000,-1000 at startup, getting rid of every title controls, BUT whatever I try, a window frame (which is much larger as the stack size) blinks up for a moment, before the launcher disappears. It's just a nice to have, but I am sure there must be an easy solution. Thank you Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Getting the currently logged in user under Windows
Tested: It works also on XP with a non admin user. Perhaps it would be good to check, if it also works on Win home editions, because there is in some cases only a subset of shell commands allowed in these editions. Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Malte Pfaff-Brill Gesendet: Montag, 17. Mai 2010 16:06 An: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Betreff: Getting the currently logged in user under Windows Hi all, I am using this under Vista to identify the currently logged in user: function getUserName local tUser set the hideconsolewindows to true put shell(set user) into tUser set the itemDel to = repeat for each line theLine in tUser if item 1 of theLine=USERNAME then return item 2 to -1 of theLine end if end repeat return tUser end getUserName Is there a simpler way? Can anyone test if this works under XP and / or WIn 7, even when not logged in with admin rights? All the best, malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: need advice for keeping file flags in a zip
Hello, after another Test, Thierry could reproduce the described behaviour that you can't keep the locked flag (uchg) of a file when zipping it with PKzip. So perhaps anybody can confirm either if it is a standard behavior/feature of OSX 10.5/10.6 or it's a bug of OSX? Because I don't find any hints googeling, I almost think it is standard, but why? Test: A folder containing a file with the locked flag. Zipping it, e.g: ditto -c -k --sequesterRsrc SrcFolder testditto.zip Unzipping it and the locked flag is gone Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Tiemo Hollmann TB Gesendet: Montag, 3. Mai 2010 08:54 An: 'How to use Revolution' Betreff: OT: need advice for keeping file flags in a zip Hello, still struggeling with keeping the locked flag of a file when zipping and unzipping. I followed exactly Thierries advice to use following syntax: ditto -c -k --sequesterRsrc SrcFolder testditto.zip and though a locked file in Thierries environment is still locked after unzipping, in my environment (MacOS 10.5.8) the file isn't locked anymore after unzipping. So the difference must be in any other test parameter. What I have tried is following: - Actually I am not sure, if the flag gets lost while zipping or unzipping. Anyhow, after unzipping, controlling the information of the file, the flag is lost - I tried different zip tools for zipping and unzipping (ditto, 7zip, gui tar) with same result - Originally my locked file resides within a bundle, but I tested also with a single locked testfile in the source folder with same result - I tested different compression formats (zip, CPIO) with ditto with same result - When using the ditto option -v (just copying a file) the locked flag is kept, but not with -c (creating a compressed archive) - I also tested the ditto options: ditto -c -k --rsrc -- extattr SrcFolder testditto.zip with same result So it seems like my problem isn't the zipping and I am overlooking something obvious outside the zipping process. My Mac knowledge is so small, that I really stuck here, what could cause such a different behavior: OS version, User permission (I have full rights), ditto handling,.? Any advice appreciated Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: need advice for keeping file flags in a zip
Hi Bob, interesting point of view. But if you use ditto to make just a copy of that locked file, it does make a copy WITH the locked flag. Just not when zipping. So where is the difference? In both cases it creates a new file. Obviously it has something to do with the zip container. Perhaps a zip file can't carry any flag or at least this uchg flag? That is too deep in the system for me, without any unix know how. Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Bob Sneidar Gesendet: Dienstag, 4. Mai 2010 19:26 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: need advice for keeping file flags in a zip My gut feeling is that because zipping and unzipping files do not literally move the files, but rather create new copies of the original, it would be up to the zip application developer to reset flags to the original file's state. The OS is doing exactly what it is being told to do by the Zip application, and that is to create a file, and then write stuff to it. If you think about it for a moment, what would happen if the OS was told to create a new file with the locked attribute on, and then told to write data to it? Why, the OS would say, Sorry chum, can't do that. You see, it's locked. Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: AW: need advice for keeping file flags in a zip
Hi Bob, I think you hit it. Googleing I found the following: Only a limited number of utilities are chflags aware. Some of these tools include ls(1), cp(1), find(1), install(1), dump(8), and restore(8). In particular a tool which is not currently chflags aware is the pax(1) utility. And following your points, ditto just would have to chflags, when zipping/unzipping and it doesn't count to these kind of tools. Thanks for bringing me on the way to understanding :) Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Bob Sneidar Gesendet: Dienstag, 4. Mai 2010 20:22 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: AW: need advice for keeping file flags in a zip I suspect that Ditto, when making a copy is not actually making the copy itself, but telling the OS to do it. It would make sense that the OS, when making a copy, would preserve all the appropriate OS flags. A zip program on the other hand, has to create it's own compressed file structure inside the file the OS knows about. It would then be up to the developer to set the flags appropriately, as the OS has no part to play with what is going on inside the compressed file. But I don't speak from real knowledge, but rather from reason based on the years of knowledge I have with computers. And reason, however good it is will not get you to the point of knowing. Bob On May 4, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hi Bob, interesting point of view. But if you use ditto to make just a copy of that locked file, it does make a copy WITH the locked flag. Just not when zipping. So where is the difference? In both cases it creates a new file. Obviously it has something to do with the zip container. Perhaps a zip file can't carry any flag or at least this uchg flag? That is too deep in the system for me, without any unix know how. Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Bob Sneidar Gesendet: Dienstag, 4. Mai 2010 19:26 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: need advice for keeping file flags in a zip My gut feeling is that because zipping and unzipping files do not literally move the files, but rather create new copies of the original, it would be up to the zip application developer to reset flags to the original file's state. The OS is doing exactly what it is being told to do by the Zip application, and that is to create a file, and then write stuff to it. If you think about it for a moment, what would happen if the OS was told to create a new file with the locked attribute on, and then told to write data to it? Why, the OS would say, Sorry chum, can't do that. You see, it's locked. Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: need advice for keeping file flags in a zip
Hello, still struggeling with keeping the locked flag of a file when zipping and unzipping. I followed exactly Thierries advice to use following syntax: ditto -c -k --sequesterRsrc SrcFolder testditto.zip and though a locked file in Thierries environment is still locked after unzipping, in my environment (MacOS 10.5.8) the file isn't locked anymore after unzipping. So the difference must be in any other test parameter. What I have tried is following: - Actually I am not sure, if the flag gets lost while zipping or unzipping. Anyhow, after unzipping, controlling the information of the file, the flag is lost - I tried different zip tools for zipping and unzipping (ditto, 7zip, gui tar) with same result - Originally my locked file resides within a bundle, but I tested also with a single locked testfile in the source folder with same result - I tested different compression formats (zip, CPIO) with ditto with same result - When using the ditto option -v (just copying a file) the locked flag is kept, but not with -c (creating a compressed archive) - I also tested the ditto options: ditto -c -k --rsrc --extattr SrcFolder testditto.zip with same result So it seems like my problem isn't the zipping and I am overlooking something obvious outside the zipping process. My Mac knowledge is so small, that I really stuck here, what could cause such a different behavior: OS version, User permission (I have full rights), ditto handling,.? Any advice appreciated Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: OT: need advice for keeping file flags in a zip
Bonjour Thierry, thank you for caring :) and though a locked file in Thierries environment is still locked after unzipping, in my environment (MacOS 10.5.8) the file isn't locked anymore after unzipping. MacOS 10.6 here. Could it be this ? new ditto version in it ? Actually I don't think so, it must be something more obvious - so obvious, that I don't see it And I think this must be such a standard behavior, which hasn't changed since ages. - I tried different zip tools for zipping and unzipping (ditto, 7zip, gui tar) with same result No, no ! --sequesterRsrc works only with PKZip No no, I didn't tried to use the ditto parameters with the other tools :). I just tested the other tools with their standard gui without any special parameters, just to see, if it is a ditto issue. Do in a terminal: ditto -h Usage: ditto [ options ] src [ ... src ] dst options are any of: ... -X do not descend into directories with a different device ID .. -c create an archive at dst (by default CPIO format) -x src(s) are archives -z gzip compress CPIO archive -j bzip2 compress CPIO archive -k archives are PKZip --sequesterRsrc copy resources via polite directory (PKZip only) Yes I am studying the man ditto since days and tried all combinations of parameters so that I now think it has nothing to do with the zipping tool, but something completely different. Something like ... ? Regards, Thierry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: OT: need advice for keeping file flags in a zip
Same result, thank you Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Thierry D. Gesendet: Montag, 3. Mai 2010 10:13 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: OT: need advice for keeping file flags in a zip Le 3 mai 2010 à 09:56, Tiemo Hollmann TB a écrit : Another thought : Have you all the rights ( user and group ) to do so ? May be worth a try with this one : sudo ditto ... Good luck Thierry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: how to zip a bundle, keeping all locked attributes
Hello, I am missing some Mac know-how. I tried different zip tools and with all my locked file (inside a bundle) is unlocked after having the bundle zipped and unzipped. So obviously it is not a matter of ditto, but of the system. So Marks advice to set the locked of the file by program after having it unzipped, seems to be the only solution. Or am I missing something obvious? Thanks for any advice Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Tiemo Hollmann TB Gesendet: Freitag, 30. April 2010 20:49 An: 'How to use Revolution' Betreff: how to zip a bundle, keeping all locked attributes, was: need ditto zipping help Hello, I think I posted the wrong question to understand the problem. Is it a normal behavior on Mac, when zipping and unzipping a bundle that a containing file loses its locked attribute? Or does it depend on the zip tool or its parameters? Other way around, if it is a standard behavior for ditto and there is no other parameter to keep the status, is there a recommended zip tool, where all files keep their locked/unlocked attribute? Thanks for any advice Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Tiemo Hollmann TB Gesendet: Freitag, 30. April 2010 14:23 An: 'How to use Revolution' Betreff: need ditto zipping help Hello, still not very familiar with the Mac and its specialities I need some help with zipping with ditto. I have a locked file in my App bundle. After zipping and unzipping the whole bundle (in an update process) the locked file isn't locked anymore. The ditto parameters I am using for zipping are: Ditto -c -k --sequesterRsrc Can anybody shed some light on this, how I can preserve the locked file being locked? Thanks for any hints Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to translate a rev path to an absolut unix path?
Hello, since I don't find a way how to preserve the lock status of a file, when zipping, I am now trying to follow Marks plan B, but am shipwrecking without Mac experience. I have the rev path of my file like: /foo/myfile in myFile. I have an oneliner applescript set the locked of myFile to true. I stored the applescript in a field and wanted to replace a placeholder for the filename like filename in the applescript by the revfile path myFile. Now I replaced slash with colon, so that I get :foo:myFile. But applescript doesn't likes it. Probably because applescript needs an absolute path like Macintosh HD:foo:myFile. How do I achive that, without knowing the name of the users HD? Add: What user rights does a user needs to change the locked attribute by applescript? Or what happens, if a user, without full rights, runs my prog with this applescript? Thanks for any help Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: How to translate a rev path to an absolut unix path?
Bon soir Thierry, your proposal seems to be half the way. Doing it your way, ditto creates a folder as the output, containing the app and the file within the app is still locked. That looks good, beside the output is a normal folder and isn't a zip file anymore. Using the parameter Ditto -c - k -rsrcFork the output is a zip file, but the locked flag of my file within the app is gone. It seems I don't understand ditto and it's handling of files, folders and bundles. Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Thierry D. Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Mai 2010 15:46 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: How to translate a rev path to an absolut unix path? Le 1 mai 2010 à 14:50, Tiemo Hollmann TB a écrit : Hello, since I don't find a way how to preserve the lock status of a file, Hi Tiemo, This command did work for me on Snow Leopard : ditto -v -rsrcFork /source /destination I could keep all hidden and immutable flags ! HTH Regards, Thierry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
need ditto zipping help
Hello, still not very familiar with the Mac and its specialities I need some help with zipping with ditto. I have a locked file in my App bundle. After zipping and unzipping the whole bundle (in an update process) the locked file isn't locked anymore. The ditto parameters I am using for zipping are: Ditto -c -k --sequesterRsrc Can anybody shed some light on this, how I can preserve the locked file being locked? Thanks for any hints Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: need ditto zipping help
Hi Mark, thank you for your advice. If I find a way how to preserve the locked attribute in my zip file I would not have to change my program (which is at my customers), but it is good to know to have a plan B Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Mark Schonewille Gesendet: Freitag, 30. April 2010 14:53 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: need ditto zipping help Hi Tiemo, Here's an AppleScript snippet that shows how to lock and unlock files. set myFile to choose file tell application Finder set the locked of myFile to not the locked of myFile return the locked of myFile end tell It is easy to adjust the script to always set the lock of a particular file to true or to check whether it is currently locked etc. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer We have updated TwistAWord. Download TwistAWord 1.1 at http://www.twistaword.net Op 30 apr 2010, om 14:23 heeft Tiemo Hollmann TB het volgende geschreven: Hello, still not very familiar with the Mac and its specialities I need some help with zipping with ditto. I have a locked file in my App bundle. After zipping and unzipping the whole bundle (in an update process) the locked file isn't locked anymore. The ditto parameters I am using for zipping are: Ditto -c -k --sequesterRsrc Can anybody shed some light on this, how I can preserve the locked file being locked? Thanks for any hints Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
how to zip a bundle, keeping all locked attributes, was: need ditto zipping help
Hello, I think I posted the wrong question to understand the problem. Is it a normal behavior on Mac, when zipping and unzipping a bundle that a containing file loses its locked attribute? Or does it depend on the zip tool or its parameters? Other way around, if it is a standard behavior for ditto and there is no other parameter to keep the status, is there a recommended zip tool, where all files keep their locked/unlocked attribute? Thanks for any advice Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Tiemo Hollmann TB Gesendet: Freitag, 30. April 2010 14:23 An: 'How to use Revolution' Betreff: need ditto zipping help Hello, still not very familiar with the Mac and its specialities I need some help with zipping with ditto. I have a locked file in my App bundle. After zipping and unzipping the whole bundle (in an update process) the locked file isn't locked anymore. The ditto parameters I am using for zipping are: Ditto -c -k --sequesterRsrc Can anybody shed some light on this, how I can preserve the locked file being locked? Thanks for any hints Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Problems building my standalone
Thank you Jacqueline and Lynn for your advices, I also have the feeling that the Valentina problem is a following error of the other one. I have to dig deeper into that. Thanks for making your thoughts Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von J. Landman Gay Gesendet: Montag, 26. April 2010 22:07 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: Problems building my standalone Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: I wanted to create a new version of my prog, with minor changes. Creating the standalones for win and Mac, everything worked fine. The Win standalone runs fine, but the Mac standalone hangs at a call of a handler of a substack (after start using.). Because this substack is a third party password protected stack, I can't debug it. This can happen if there is an error in the library and so the script aborts. Have you contacted the third-party vendor? That is what I'd do next. Does the runrev licence expire in any kind? No. You can't use an expired license with a newer version of Rev, but your licensed version will run forever. Is the Valentina licence be valid only for a limited period? (I ask this in the valentina list.) Or could perhaps the latest Mac-Update interfere in any kind? I don't know about Valentina, but an OS update might interfere. It depends on what the third-party library is doing. If it is written in RevTalk only, then it is not likely to be a problem. If it is an external then it might have problems after an OS change. It feels like linking the externals and substacks doesn't work anymore correctly, but I don't know why and where to look for and how to analyse. You could add a logging handler to your standalone that writes the result of the commands that fail to a text file. That could give you some information. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
the externalpackages returns empty, why?
Hello, for testing I created a new mainstack and tried: put the externalpackages of this stack into fld status. It returns empty in the IDE as well as in a standalone, though I have activated in the standalone settings Database and Valentina2 XML and Internet libraries. What am I doing wrong, is it a syntax error? Thank you Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: the externalpackages returns empty, why?
Hi Malte, Yup, that does the trick in the IDE. Any idea why the list is empty in my standalone? Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Malte Pfaff-Brill Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. April 2010 15:05 An: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Betreff: Re: the externalpackages returns empty, why? Hi Tiemo, at least for the IDE the externalPackages are a property of stack home put the externalpackages of stack home will give you the list. This is done in order to make the exts available to all stacks that are open in the IDE. Cheers, Malte___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: the externalpackages returns empty, why?
Thanks Trevor, never heard about this stack, and don't know if this is where they are supposed to be (why don't the docs tell anything about it?), but there they are! Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Trevor DeVore Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. April 2010 16:54 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: the externalpackages returns empty, why? On Apr 27, 2010, at 9:38 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Yup, that does the trick in the IDE. Any idea why the list is empty in my standalone? Check the externalPackages of stack revExternalLibrary in a standalone. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Releasable Revolution Resources for Developers: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Problems building my standalone
Hello, I have a very mysterious problem, researching since two days, but not knowing anymore where to look for. I wanted to create a new version of my prog, with minor changes. Creating the standalones for win and Mac, everything worked fine. The Win standalone runs fine, but the Mac standalone hangs at a call of a handler of a substack (after start using.). Because this substack is a third party password protected stack, I can't debug it. Some handlers later my prog hangs at the very first Valentina database statement: get valentina_init(). When debugging, I don't get an error, nore a database ID, the script just jumps off to the end of the handler without executing any more. Same happens with starting the prog on Mac in the IDE. On Win everything is fine. So obviously it is not a problem of the standalone. I tried building a new standalone with an older version of my program, which has run before, but the same problem happens. I tried different version of runrev, with always the same result. It just seems, as if any licence has been switched off since 1. April. My older standalones of the same program still run fine on the Mac. So the problem seems to be in the build process or linking the vcomponents. Does the runrev licence expire in any kind? Is the Valentina licence be valid only for a limited period? (I ask this in the valentina list.) Or could perhaps the latest Mac-Update interfere in any kind? Or can you think of any other reason, why I can't get my program to run anymore? It feels like linking the externals and substacks doesn't work anymore correctly, but I don't know why and where to look for and how to analyse. Thank you for any idea where to start researching, perhaps anybody has experienced something similar? Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Lang Lang iPad iPad
Cool :) A few years earlier and Wolfgang Amadeus would have ordered one immediately! -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Michael Kann Gesendet: Freitag, 23. April 2010 14:50 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Lang Lang iPad iPad http://www.youtube.com/v/HvplGbCBaLAcolor1=0xd6d6d6color2=0xf0f0f0hl =en_USfeature=player_embeddedfs=1 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Valentina DB
Hi Marcio, I am using Valentina and your first question is correct. (I still have a license for two platforms) The 18+ platforms is a new thing, I havn't read yet, but probably it is like you understood it. Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Marcio Alexandroni Gesendet: Montag, 22. März 2010 22:44 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Valentina DB Hi, I'm not sure I understood how Valentina DB licensing works. Does anyone use Valentina DB? If I understood it right, if I purchase ADK+ (3 platforms: Mac, Linux, Windows), I can build applications on all platforms and distribute royalty-free applications using the DB. As they mention in the sales page, I can use 18+ platforms, includint the iPhone when RevMobile supports externals. Am I understanding it right? Anyone uses it for commercial applications? Thank you. Marcio Alexandroni www.cialogica.com.br ( (+55 11) 9989-8316 Skype: marcioalexandroni -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: How to generate a runnable Mac standalone from Windows
Hi Richard, beeing for a long time only a windows user and developer I totally agree to your arcticle that DMGs can be very confusing. Since I had no experience with Mac, when I started to develop my latest product also for Mac, I asked here on this list how to make an installer for Mac, and everybody taught me, that I don't need an installer, Mac users are used to use DMGs and thats so easy. So I followed the advice and thought, hmm, ok probably it's my old fashioned and not state of the art windows thinking, that I (and some of my customers too) still feel confused and not intuitively guided to my App. But just the intuitive operating should be the strength of the Mac, shouldn't it be? I would like to have an easy installer on Mac, like InnoSetup on Win. My 2 Win cents Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Richard Gaskin Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. März 2010 20:16 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: How to generate a runnable Mac standalone from Windows Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, Richard Gaskin wrote: ... As a workaround based on an earlier related discussion here, I'm considering storing a zipped copy of the Mac app bundle, and spitting that zip file out with an instruction for the user to unzip it on OS X before running it there. But that's a lot of hassle for them and many users will just get confused. It'd be much nicer to be able to spit out a working Mac app bundle - but how can I do that from Windows? DMG ? Thank you Scott and Lyn for the suggestion, but for our needs that still requires some intermediate file as with our Zip workaround. The upside to Zip is that it makes a decompressed copy in the same folder on the USB drive, runnable in place and we can then delete the Zip when our app runs. With a DMG the user has to figure out why they have a new volume on their Mac desktop (you'd be surprised by how many users find DMGs confusing (see the links at the bottom of http://revjournal.com/blog.irv?pid=1261255254.58153). For now we'll go with a Zip, but it says a lot about the Mac-centric Rev community that not being able to make runnable Mac apps from Windows isn't a big issue (yet). Given the Mac's Unix requirement of setting the executable bit I don't think there's a way around it. It's just hard to imagine that every RevStudio for Windows user logs into terminal on their Mac and chmods their Mac standalones to make them runnable; maybe there just aren't that many Rev folks with a Windows license deploying to Mac OS. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: How to generate a runnable Mac standalone from Windows
Thanks for the link, didn't knew that yet Tiemo Have you tried Monte Goulding's install tool?: http://www.sweattechnologies.com/InstallGadget/ -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: How to generate a runnable Mac standalone from Windows
Hi Bill, but DMG Canvas is a DMG maker, not an installer - right? Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Bill Vlahos Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. März 2010 16:25 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: How to generate a runnable Mac standalone from Windows I use Monte's InstallGadget for the initial InfoWallet installer on both Mac and Windows. The Windows version is fantastic but the Mac version is very basic. I still use the Windows version but have switched to DMG Canvas (http://www.araelium.com/dmgcanvas/) for my current Mac installer. Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. On Mar 18, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Have you tried Monte Goulding's install tool?: http://www.sweattechnologies.com/InstallGadget/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: [OT] Poor man's Photoshop
Amazing, thats real cloud computing! Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Richmond Mathewson Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. März 2010 22:17 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: [OT] Poor man's Photoshop Those of you who: Cannot afford Photoshop, and Cannot cope with GIMP could do far worse than this: http://www.sumopaint.com/app/ It blew me away. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: can rev supply image editing features?
Hi Stephen, yes, that's what I would like to have. I know that this originally is a feature of image editing programs, though I think it is not a patent of Adobe. But sometimes there are so unexpected approaches with rev, I even didn't thought about that you could do it with rev or an external. That’s why I just asked here. Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von stephen barncard Gesendet: Montag, 15. März 2010 15:06 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: can rev supply image editing features? you mean you want a magic wand or replace color tool? I don't think rev can do that natively. Adobe may even have a patent on it. On 15 March 2010 07:52, Tiemo Hollmann TB toolb...@kestner.de wrote: Hello, I am not that familiar with the image manipulating capabilities of rev. I have a batch of images with a person in front of a blue background. What I would like to do is to change the blue background against a white background, so that a printed image has a better contrast. Up to now I thought that this is a photoshop job, but I am always again surprised what people do with rev (blending, masking, etc.). Or any externals for Mac and Win? I don't know if at all it would be possible, to find and select automatically the background (e.g. select always the topleft corner) and select all of the blue, like photoshops wizard selecting tool with some tolerance of 10 or 20%, because the RGB isn't that plain over the whole background. So I wonder, if there are any ideas on this list, how to do this job Thanks Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard currently in Fairhope AL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Fwd: Cross platform design tool
Labas Vitoras, do you think I could change colors as in my can rev supply image editing features post described with imagemagick? I know, how to do this job by hand in photoshop, but I can't think of it is possible to automize such a job by a shell tool? Especially the selecting of the background color Do you have any experiences? Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von viktoras d. Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. März 2010 10:22 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: Fwd: Cross platform design tool Hi Randal, many issues in your list can be solved by using ImageMagick (www.imagemagick.org). It has already solved many of image manipulation issues for Perl, PHP and other languages alike. However from revTalk you can only shell out commands to it. It would be *very cool* to get this tool integrated with revTalk. One more alternative is to use netpbm (http://netpbm.sourceforge.net/). Again, you will need to shell out all your communications with it. Best regards Vitoras Randall Reetz wrote: Sorry. Didn't know. What about the rest of my list? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: Fwd: Cross platform design tool
Wow, I knew there are real specialists on this list. That hint sounds interesting, I'll go into that. Next time I will ask you in German if you speak fluently German ;) Dekui! Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von viktoras d. Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. März 2010 11:44 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: Fwd: Cross platform design tool Hallo Tiemo :-) something like this: http://www.fmwconcepts.com/imagemagick/magicwand/index.php Viktoras Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Labas Vitoras, do you think I could change colors as in my can rev supply image editing features post described with imagemagick? I know, how to do this job by hand in photoshop, but I can't think of it is possible to automize such a job by a shell tool? Especially the selecting of the background color Do you have any experiences? Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von viktoras d. Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. März 2010 10:22 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: Fwd: Cross platform design tool Hi Randal, many issues in your list can be solved by using ImageMagick (www.imagemagick.org). It has already solved many of image manipulation issues for Perl, PHP and other languages alike. However from revTalk you can only shell out commands to it. It would be *very cool* to get this tool integrated with revTalk. One more alternative is to use netpbm (http://netpbm.sourceforge.net/). Again, you will need to shell out all your communications with it. Best regards Vitoras Randall Reetz wrote: Sorry. Didn't know. What about the rest of my list? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
ask file different behavior on Win7
Hello, when using: ask file foo with tFile tFile may be: C:\foo\foo.txt Win XP opens the file dialog, showing as location the folder of the given tFile (C:\foo\) and prompting for the filename as in tFile (foo.txt) Win 7 opens the file dialog, showing as location my standalone folder (C:\program files\blabla\mystandalone.exe) and prompting for the filename with the full path and filename (C:\foo\foo.txt) This behavior is very irritating, because you see another folder, as the file is located. I use it for writing a file afterwards. It works because of the full file path , but you don't get what you see. Is this change Win 7 standard or is it a Rev thing or do I oversee anything? Thanks for any hints Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: ask file different behavior on Win7
Hi Mark, yep, that does the trick. Thats strange, using on Windows the Unix-Slashes instead of the Windows backslashes. So I'll report it in the QCC as a bug Thanks for your idea Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Mark Schonewille Gesendet: Montag, 15. März 2010 09:51 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: ask file different behavior on Win7 Hi Tiemo, That's clearly a bug. It shouldn't be like this. Have you tried changing the backslashes in the file path to slashes? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new software development projects. Feel free to contact me for a quote. Op 15 mrt 2010, om 09:38 heeft Tiemo Hollmann TB het volgende geschreven: Hello, when using: ask file foo with tFile tFile may be: C:\foo\foo.txt Win XP opens the file dialog, showing as location the folder of the given tFile (C:\foo\) and prompting for the filename as in tFile (foo.txt) Win 7 opens the file dialog, showing as location my standalone folder (C:\program files\blabla\mystandalone.exe) and prompting for the filename with the full path and filename (C:\foo\foo.txt) This behavior is very irritating, because you see another folder, as the file is located. I use it for writing a file afterwards. It works because of the full file path , but you don't get what you see. Is this change Win 7 standard or is it a Rev thing or do I oversee anything? Thanks for any hints Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: ask file different behavior on Win7
Hi Ian, actually in most cases I switch slashes and backslashes, depending on the platform, because if the users gets any error messages, the path looks familiar to him. And that worked up to now in all cases. Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Ian Wood Gesendet: Montag, 15. März 2010 11:09 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: ask file different behavior on Win7 On 15 Mar 2010, at 09:15, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Thats strange, using on Windows the Unix-Slashes instead of the Windows backslashes. Rev always uses forward-slashes internally. I wasn't even aware that you could pass through a backslash-delimited path on Windows and have Rev understand it! Definitely post a bug if it works on other versions of Windows, though. Ian___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
can rev supply image editing features?
Hello, I am not that familiar with the image manipulating capabilities of rev. I have a batch of images with a person in front of a blue background. What I would like to do is to change the blue background against a white background, so that a printed image has a better contrast. Up to now I thought that this is a photoshop job, but I am always again surprised what people do with rev (blending, masking, etc.). Or any externals for Mac and Win? I don't know if at all it would be possible, to find and select automatically the background (e.g. select always the topleft corner) and select all of the blue, like photoshops wizard selecting tool with some tolerance of 10 or 20%, because the RGB isn't that plain over the whole background. So I wonder, if there are any ideas on this list, how to do this job Thanks Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?
Hello, we have made some difference experiences and so I have to disagree to Richard and Francois. We are publishing software in a very small specific market, so no music, no games. In the first years our software was - in your intention - completely free of copy protection, later we implemented a copy protection on some programs, which were running off the CD. We made the experience, that nobody ever thanked us the ease of use and lack of licensing. Just the opposite. Just because our target market is so small and lots of people know each other, our software was copied, given away without control. Not only once we got support calls in the kind hi, we just made a copy of your software at ..., but we have some troubles installing it... After more than ten years of living with the total lack of conscience at most people out there what? Everbody copies software! we decided to implement a heavy licensing system to our newest product which ties our product to the single machine without any doubts. Yes, we get furious calls, how we can be so cruel not to let the user install it on all of his (and the rest of the world) machines. Yes, it is much more support as having just a licence-number without any verifying, beside entering the right name and email and a fixed number. But yes, the cost-benefit ratio is very satisfying for us. Not for the pirates of the past. The pirates of the past were no Russian hackers or hacker kids. They were people like you and me, who just didn't mind and didn't care about what copying of software means. I think especially of one target group teachers (sorry Richmond, nothing personal) teachers are the heroes of copying everything in my mind. Btw. Richmond, where is your pin on the map http://qurl.tk/4O ? And yes, after month of heavy support and dozens of smaller and bigger enhancements in our system (which was designed from the scratch), now the support comes down to a normal amount. The need and whish of the customer to install your software on more than one machine can also be handled by your pricing system. That are our experiences. P.S. If you are looking for an individual engineered system, there is a very experienced company: http://economy-x-talk.com/ Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Richard Gaskin Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. März 2010 15:48 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: OT: locking software to one specific machine? Peter Alcibiades wrote: Completely OT question. Do any of you do this? The method is that the machine on first run produces a machine ID, and you then issue a license key which is tied to that ID. The software can only be run on that specific machine. I don't bother, instead just using the more common method of machine-independent reg codes. Like I tell my customers, We don't punish you for your good fortune of owning more than one computer. :) In the modern world many people own more than one computer, and by choosing to have per-person licenses rather than per-machine licenses we keep our support costs down by not having to deal with angry people when they upgrade their computer or change their NIC. I'm sure this allows a certain amount of piracy among our customers, but the cost-benefit ratio of both methods favors flexibility for the customer with our products. In certain markets this may not always hold true. For example, games and music software are the two most pirated categories (which is especially ironic for music, given that musicians make their living from intellectual property). So like any security consideration, you'll have to consider the relative ROI for your product. But it may be helpful to keep in mind that security is overhead, while features are investment. So here, using minimal security lets us focus on adding features which encourage sales among honest people, the only people who ever pay for software anyway. All software can be hacked, most within three days of release. Game companies who spend millions on security do so with the hope of postponing the inevitable c...@ck by just 60 days. Fortunately, few honest people take on the risk of downloading c...@cked copies from random sites in the PRC or Russia (home to some 90% of c...@ck sites), many of which are loaded with keyloggers and other zombieware. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing
AW: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?
I did not mentioned that we had also some steps in between. But many of the per-user licenses can be passed on. I don't know how Adobe or Microsoft prevent people of passing their user license to other people. Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Richard Gaskin Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. März 2010 18:00 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine? Tiemo Hollmann wrote: In the first years our software was - in your intention - completely free of copy protection, later we implemented a copy protection on some programs, which were running off the CD. We made the experience, that nobody ever thanked us the ease of use and lack of licensing. Just the opposite. Just because our target market is so small and lots of people know each other, our software was copied, given away without control. Completely free of copy protection is very different from the industry-standard per-user license keys I described, and not something I would advocate for any commercial product. In markets where piracy is an unusually serious consideration, server-based activation can provide reasonable control over license key redistribution. If smartly implemented with grace periods, phone home activation should pose no inconvenience to the end-user. But most successful products don't even do that, they merely use pre-generated keys. Per-user license keys have made Adobe, Microsoft, Apple, and most other software vendors quite profitable. Not having any protection at all is, IMO, only appropriate for free products. The early years of the computer industry's shareware experiments proved that convincingly. The difference between free demo and full version need not be onerous to the user, but there must be some incentive to motivate the user to put in the additional effort to fill out an order form. This is one reason why having PayPal as a payment option is so valuable: it reduces the payment process to just a single password field and one click. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?
Hi Brian, from our experiences we can't require an internet connection. Actually we thought so, but also allowed an offline registration method as fall back. At our customers about 10% of the target machines don't have any internet connection, and that would be too much for us to exclude and we are happy we can provide the offline registration method. May be, it varies on your target market. The other point is that your method also wouldn't be a per user license as Richard and the others favorises. If a key is expired for use on one machine the user can't use it again on his other machine. If you would allow that (how ever), he could pass his key to everybody, and your system is broken. Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Brian Yennie Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. März 2010 22:41 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine? While this thread is alive, I've long been curious what the criticisms would be of the following scheme, for a product with low to medium security needs. This does assume that you require an internet connection for registration, but that seems to be a generally acceptable requirement these days. 1) Generate as many (or as few) *random* keys as you need 2) Put them in a database 3) User inputs key, app contacts hosted script which checks if the key is in the database 4) If YES, expire that key 5) If NO, lock out the user for a few seconds 6) Go back to #1 if you sell more keys ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Conference-DVDs arrived
FYI: 25.02.2010, finally the Conference-DVDs (09, not 10!) arrived in Germany, so probably another eight weeks to down under J Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Win7 Apps don't launch - just nothing ? - solved!
After more than two weeks of investigations my customer has solved this mystery by chance. The simple solution was, that his C: drive was write protected for the Admin. Unfortunately my customer couldn't tell me why and how this has happened, so this mystery stays, especially because he has successfully setup my App on C:, but the second install part, installation of my App videos was already blocked. Very strange, but... Thanks Jim and Börnke for your help! Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: Where do you live? - world map of runrev users
Hi, there is still a lot of uncharted territory on the world map and even a continent, where we dont have a revolutionist yet! Is there any runrev user in Africa??? Go and pin your location on Björnkes map (watch line breaks): http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8 http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8hl=enmsa=0msid=1035603293936759669 54.00047f3f26dbe66f71c2dll=17.978733,12.304688spn=124.244284,268.242188t= hz=2 hl=enmsa=0msid=103560329393675966954.00047f3f26dbe66f71c2dll=17.978733,1 2.304688spn=124.244284,268.242188t=hz=2 sign in (create a google account, if you dont have one and sign off afterwords) and edit your pin Please dont move the other pins! (there are some moved in the off!) Have fun watching the diversity of our places Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Win7 Apps don't launch - just nothing ?
Hi Jim, now I got the answers of my customer, see below. Thanks for further ideas, isn't solved yet Tiemo 1. When he boots the machine does it go to a login screen or does Windows just come up? Yes he has a single user on this machine with password protection 2. Does he have any third-party firewall installed (like Norton, McAfee, AVG, etc.) or is he just using the default Windows firewall? Yes McAfee. But he insists, that my App has no blocking entry in the MyAfee list. (Next step he wants to deinstall McAfee) 3. Is your app set to auto-launch on boot/login? Noop, one is start from Cd, one from Desktop 4. Where is this shield? Is it on the desktop or does it appear in the System Tray when your app is launched? My App doesn't appear either in the task bar, nor in task manger, but the sandglass is running for a short period, before nothing happens As he now tells me, my Apps don't have a shield icon, hmmm 5. What are the options if he right-clicks on the shield? You might get him to install something like the free Microsoft SharedView on his system, so you can take it over and see for yourself what is going on. But, it is now sounding like not a Rev issue but a permissions/firewall issue and your app is either blacklisted or requires admin privileges to run. Will be my next step, though my experience with such system issues and McAfee isn't very deep, thats why I hesitated yet. Aloha from Hawaii, Jim Bufalini ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: Win7 Apps don't launch - just nothing ?
Hi Björnke, (who doesn't live in north Italy) Thank you for your comprehensive explanations, they are really helpful. I will go on with your list in my checks OT: I always hesitated and feared about the hassle with applying for a certificate at MS, because I could never find out, what happens with my Updates / updates of the Rev engine. - Do you know, if you need for every update of your app a new certificate or is this a one time only procedure? - And is this certification worth at all the full procedure against letting raise the user the priviliges to admin after request? - Actually only my setup needs such a certificate and not my App, because only when starting my setup the user is asked for the priviliges by the UAC and never when starting my App. Is this correct? Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: Experiences with MS certification?
Hello, I always hesitated and feared about the hassle with applying for a certificate at MS, because I could never find out, what happens with my Updates / updates of the Rev engine in new versions of my App. - Do you know, if you need for every update of your app a new certificate or is this a one time only procedure? - And is this certification worth at all the full procedure against letting raise the user the priviliges to admin after request? - Actually only my setup needs such a certificate and not my App, because only when starting my setup the user is asked for the priviliges by the UAC and never when starting my App. Is this correct? Thanks for any experiences Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: revolutionairies world map, was: Andre's house - completely offtopic
This map works, if anybody doesn't like google - you can log off google immediatly after having set your pin ;) So Andre and the others, you come over to this map? P.S. You don't have to pin your detailed address, if you don't want to have sit someday a rev couch surfer on your sofa ;) Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Björnke von Gierke Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2010 15:01 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: Andre's house - completely offtopic Hi I made a google maps entry that is open for anyone to edit. If you have a google account of any sorts, you can go here, and click on save to my maps and then edit to add your own location: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8hl=enmsa=0msid=103560329393675966 954.00047f3f26dbe66f71c2dll=17.978733,12.304688spn=124.244284,268.242188 t=hz=2 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: revolutionairies world map, was: Andre's house - completely offtopic
Hi Björnke, I already wondered what you are doing down there in the foggy Pampa :) Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Björnke von Gierke Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Februar 2010 16:06 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: revolutionairies world map, was: Andre's house - completely offtopic Oi! Matthias moved me to the fields of Milano! Not acceptable. Keep your hands off my position, you filthy apes ;-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Win7 Apps don't launch - just nothing ?
Hi Jim, only revzip and revxml My customer now told me, that the icon of my app has the blue-yellow Win7 admin shield (don't know the correct name). I know that this has anything to do with permission / user rights, but I don't know what exactly and why this only affects my Rev Apps and not all his other Apps. Tiemo Do you use any externals at all like SSL? Aloha from Hawaii, Jim Bufalini ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Win7 Apps don't launch - just nothing ?
Hi Jim, thanks for your hints, I will follow them and get back. It's already late over there, you're still up? :) Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Jim Bufalini Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2010 11:58 An: 'How to use Revolution' Betreff: RE: Win7 Apps don't launch - just nothing ? Tiemo Hollmann wrote: only revzip and revxml My customer now told me, that the icon of my app has the blue-yellow Win7 admin shield (don't know the correct name). I know that this has anything to do with permission / user rights, but I don't know what exactly and why this only affects my Rev Apps and not all his other Apps. OK, so given this, it's not that your Rev app is not launching on a particular machine (which is why I started exploring externals). It's that it is being blocked from running on a particular machine (big difference ;-). So a new line of questioning for you and your customer... 1. When he boots the machine does it go to a login screen or does Windows just come up? 2. Does he have any third-party firewall installed (like Norton, McAfee, AVG, etc.) or is he just using the default Windows firewall? 3. Is your app set to auto-launch on boot/login? 4. Where is this shield? Is it on the desktop or does it appear in the System Tray when your app is launched? 5. What are the options if he right-clicks on the shield? You might get him to install something like the free Microsoft SharedView on his system, so you can take it over and see for yourself what is going on. But, it is now sounding like not a Rev issue but a permissions/firewall issue and your app is either blacklisted or requires admin privileges to run. Aloha from Hawaii, Jim Bufalini ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Win7 Apps don't launch - just nothing ?
Hi Neal, one of the Apps is a App, which runs off the CD. Could the UAC also has his hands on the CD drive? Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Neal Campbell Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2010 17:13 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: Win7 Apps don't launch - just nothing ? Another thing to try is just moving the application to your Library-Documents folder. It could in a UAC protected folder which will not allow it to run (I have witnessed this a zillion times). Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software www.abrohamnealsoftware.com (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER Amateur Radio: K3NC Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/ DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
PDF doc name with revPrintText corrupted?
Hello, I am using revPrintText with Rev 3.5 on Win to print a fields text. When selecting a printer everything is fine. When selecting a pdf-printer Rev creates a pdf doc name from my stack title. My stack title has german Umlaute and they get changed to weired signs in the pdf doc name, as if there there is a problem with the Unicode or something like this. I tried to use the revPrintText parameter header text in the hope rev would take that header text as the doc name, but no effect. Does anybody knows, if I can change the doc name when printing to pdf or to change the charset or any other idea? I know that there is the new pdf printing in 4.5, but I have to fix it in 3.5 with old style. Thanks Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Andre's house - completely offtopic
Just a thought, isn't there anywhere in the net a tool where we could open a group where everybody could pin his location on the world map (like the cities I've visited in facebook). I think it would be interesting to see how wide spread the Rev community is, though a jungle place on Puerto Rico probably is the most exotic, William :) Any idea? Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Andre Garzia Gesendet: Montag, 8. Februar 2010 15:12 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: Andre's house - was DVD set (somewhat OT ) - completely offtopic Willian, You win the best location award, it must be marvelous to live among the nature like that. I hope it is colder than the 120F or 49C that we're having here... Rio is melting. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: PDF doc name with revPrintText corrupted?
Great Jan, that worked! I would have never get that idea. you are really the printing specialist :) Thank you Tiemo You could try setting the 'printTitle' global property before calling revPrintText (haven't tried it, but it may solve your problem) Jan Schenkel = Quartam Reports PDF Library for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: Andre's house - completely offtopic
I think this interface is too sophisticated for me. If I dig into the map I find a map with hundreds of people pins. Are these already all Rev-Users? I can't believe... Don't know, where to pin my needle Timo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Andre Garzia Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Februar 2010 17:03 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: Andre's house - completely offtopic Mark, I did a simple one using a free service, I put it at: http://wecode.org/map See if you like. Andre On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Mark Rauterkus m...@rauterkus.com wrote: Hi, A map with pinpoints could be build by a community in Picasa, the google app that now allows shared photos each with its own geotags. The rub is that all would need to have a Google (gmail) account, or else open up an account for this purpose if another didn't upload the photo for you with the right tag. A sorta new Picasa web albums feature allows for a shared web album. Then folks could upload a photo and a geotag to that one album (need to have the right name/URL, of course). Then, those subscribed to the open web album, uploaded a photo to it, that album would present a nice visual effect with map of the world and images, etc. Some hand-holding may be required. A RunRev app could be built as well, either to interface with the shared Picasa album or else done on its own. Ta. Mark Rauterkus mark.rauter...@gmail.com Swimming and Water Polo Coach, Schenley High School, Pittsburgh, PA http://CLOH.wikia.com 412 298 3432 = cell ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: Andre's house - completely offtopic
I am too dumb. Zooming into the map and double clicking it, opens a new window with the same map. Zooming into and double clicking zooms the map to the max, but doesn't pin :( Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Andre Garzia Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Februar 2010 18:08 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: Andre's house - completely offtopic Tiemo, I think you went to the wrong place. There's only me there right now. :D ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: Andre's house - completely offtopic
Probably only in your admin mode... Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Andre Garzia Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Februar 2010 18:23 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: Andre's house - completely offtopic Tiemo, on the pop up map, try single click. I think that was how I added mine... :D On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB toolb...@kestner.de wrote: I am too dumb. Zooming into the map and double clicking it, opens a new window with the same map. Zooming into and double clicking zooms the map to the max, but doesn't pin :( Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Andre Garzia Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Februar 2010 18:08 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: Andre's house - completely offtopic Tiemo, I think you went to the wrong place. There's only me there right now. :D ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: Win7 Apps don't launch - just nothing ?
Hello, One customer of mine can't start my Rev Apps on his new Win7 machine. After double clicking my App with admin rights and also with right mouse as admin just nothing happens, no window opens, no error message, no task running. The only thing is the windows event log, which tells about a very generic Application Error, EventID 1000. Up to now, my two rev apps are the only one with this strange behaviour. Both Apps run up to today on all other Win7 machines without any probs. After going behind this mysterious behaviour whole day long, googling, trying to switch off the virus scan and windows firewall I am not sure, if it is an issue of Rev or any other component on his machine. My suspicion is that it is related to the UAC or any other permission thing, but he has switched off his UAC to the lowest level, and I don't know what to check for now. Does anybody has seen this behaviour or has a hint, what to check for? Thanks for any ideas Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
open substack flickering despite lockscreen
Hello, I want to open a substack modal at the loc of the mouse. Everything works, beside there is a flickering, when opening the substack and positioning it at the mouse loc despide of having a lockscreen. For a moment of a second the stack appears at his default loc and then it appears at my wanted position. So there must be a fault in my following approach: set the lockscreen to true open stack lizenzinfo set the left of stack lizenzinfo to tLocX set the top of stack lizenzinfo to tLocY modal stack lizenzinfo set the lockscreen to false The reason for using first open and afterwords modal was, that I couldn't change the position, when opening it with modal, as far as I remember my code. Why does the lockscreen doesn't seem to be affective? What am I doing wrong? Thanks for any hint Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: open substack flickering despite lockscreen
Hi Klaus, I knew you would have an easy solution on this! Thanks, Tiemo :) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Klaus Major Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Februar 2010 14:41 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: open substack flickering despite lockscreen Hi Tiemo, Hello, I want to open a substack modal at the loc of the mouse. Everything works, beside there is a flickering, when opening the substack and positioning it at the mouse loc despide of having a lockscreen. For a moment of a second the stack appears at his default loc and then it appears at my wanted position. So there must be a fault in my following approach: set the lockscreen to true open stack lizenzinfo set the left of stack lizenzinfo to tLocX set the top of stack lizenzinfo to tLocY modal stack lizenzinfo set the lockscreen to false The reason for using first open and afterwords modal was, that I couldn't change the position, when opening it with modal, as far as I remember my code. Try this, since you can set these props even BEFOE you open your stack! ... set the left of stack lizenzinfo to tLocX set the top of stack lizenzinfo to tLocY modal stack lizenzinfo ... Why does the lockscreen doesn't seem to be affective? What am I doing wrong? lock screen only works inside of a stack, not on the screen unfortunately! Thanks for any hint Tiemo Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: open substack flickering despite lockscreen
Hi Klaus, there is a saying don't halloo, before you are out of the wood When using just: set the left of stack lizenzinfo to tLocX set the top of stack lizenzinfo to tLocY modal stack lizenzinfo the setting of the loc seems to be ineffective, The stack just opens at the default center position. When opening the stack, before setting the loc, as in my first approach, the positioning works, but the flickering. Any idea what's wrong? Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Tiemo Hollmann TB Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Februar 2010 14:44 An: 'How to use Revolution' Betreff: AW: open substack flickering despite lockscreen Hi Klaus, I knew you would have an easy solution on this! Thanks, Tiemo :) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Klaus Major Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Februar 2010 14:41 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: open substack flickering despite lockscreen Hi Tiemo, Hello, I want to open a substack modal at the loc of the mouse. Everything works, beside there is a flickering, when opening the substack and positioning it at the mouse loc despide of having a lockscreen. For a moment of a second the stack appears at his default loc and then it appears at my wanted position. So there must be a fault in my following approach: set the lockscreen to true open stack lizenzinfo set the left of stack lizenzinfo to tLocX set the top of stack lizenzinfo to tLocY modal stack lizenzinfo set the lockscreen to false The reason for using first open and afterwords modal was, that I couldn't change the position, when opening it with modal, as far as I remember my code. Try this, since you can set these props even BEFOE you open your stack! ... set the left of stack lizenzinfo to tLocX set the top of stack lizenzinfo to tLocY modal stack lizenzinfo ... Why does the lockscreen doesn't seem to be affective? What am I doing wrong? lock screen only works inside of a stack, not on the screen unfortunately! Thanks for any hint Tiemo Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: open substack flickering despite lockscreen
Ok, I could do following: Open invisible stack lizenzinfo set the left of stack lizenzinfo to tLocX set the top of stack lizenzinfo to tLocY modal stack lizenzinfo show stack lizenzinfo ... but is this the rev wanted approach? I think there must be a more straight forward way Thanks Tiemo When using just: set the left of stack lizenzinfo to tLocX set the top of stack lizenzinfo to tLocY modal stack lizenzinfo the setting of the loc seems to be ineffective, The stack just opens at the default center position. When opening the stack, before setting the loc, as in my first approach, the positioning works, but the flickering. Any idea what's wrong? Oops, my fault! I thought this behaviour only applies to the Ask and Answer dialogs, but a look into the docs proved me wrong. This is obviously managed by the engine. No other idea, sorry. Thanks Tiemo Best -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: open substack flickering despite lockscreen
Ah ok, the preopenstack is the clue! Thanks Phil Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Phil Jimmieson Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Februar 2010 15:13 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: open substack flickering despite lockscreen Hi Tiemo, Add a preopenstack handler to the stack that you want to display modally, and in this handler, set the location you want the stack to occupy. When the stack opens up, before you see it it positions itself in the location you supplied, so: on preopenstack global tLocX,tLocY --or some other way of passing the location you want - a custom property of the stack perhaps? set the left of stack lizenzinfo to tLocX set the top of stack lizenzinfo to tLocY end preopenstack then when you use the command modal stack lizenzinfo your stack will be displayed at tLocX and tLocY On 4 Feb 2010, at 14:01, Klaus Major wrote: Hi Tiemo, Hi Klaus, there is a saying don't halloo, before you are out of the wood ??? I only understand station :-D When using just: set the left of stack lizenzinfo to tLocX set the top of stack lizenzinfo to tLocY modal stack lizenzinfo the setting of the loc seems to be ineffective, The stack just opens at the default center position. When opening the stack, before setting the loc, as in my first approach, the positioning works, but the flickering. Any idea what's wrong? Oops, my fault! I thought this behaviour only applies to the Ask and Answer dialogs, but a look into the docs proved me wrong. This is obviously managed by the engine. No other idea, sorry. Thanks Tiemo Best -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Jimmieson p...@liverpool.ac.uk (UK) 0151 795 4236 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: little OT: Did anyone from Germany receive the Conference DVDset, yet?
Nooop :( Germany doesn't seems to be on the line in Edinburgh Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von runrev260...@m-r-d.de Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Februar 2010 18:36 An: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Betreff: little OT: Did anyone from Germany receive the Conference DVDset, yet? Hi, is there anyone from germany here on the list, who has already received the Conference DVD set ? Regards, Matthias ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Windows title reduced to a single character
Hi Sarah, One of those QCC reports was opened by me I think almost one and a half years ago and it really is annoying that nothing happens. Selling a professional software without a title really looks unprofessional, especially, when minimizing to the task bar In my case I actually experienced another issue. Not that the title was truncated to only one char, but that the title was completely corrupted to wired signs. My only solution was to use a title of just one single char, which wasn't corrupted. What it made still more complicated was, that I couldn't reproduce that bug on none of my machines and so always had to ask other people to do testing for me. Perhaps we need more votings on 6235 or the owner of this thread has to change the priority? Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Sarah Reichelt Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. Januar 2010 11:21 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Windows title reduced to a single character Has anyone managed to find a work-around to the problem with a stack's title being reduced to a single character under Windows, if there is a player on the card? This is proving a real blocker for me at the moment, despite several bug reports, one of which says it was fixed in Rev 3.0. I'm using Rev 4.0 and a pre-release of Rev 4.5 and it's still happening there. So far the only solution I have found is to build the app using Rev 2.8 which seems a bit ridiculous and causes other problems. For further details see: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=6235 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=6343 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7290 Basically, it means that it is impossible to deploy a professional looking standalone under Windows if it uses a player. Checking the archives of this list, I see that Scott Rossi was reduced to trying to place a sub-stack over the title bar so as to fake the title of the stack but I don't know if that was successful. It certainly seems rather extreme for a problem that has supposedly been fixed. Mark Waddingham's work-around, suggested in September 2008, of setting the revRuntimeBehaviour to 4 does not work, at least not in the versions of Rev that I have tested. Maybe it worked in Rev 3. If this cannot be fixed, then I suggest that it be noted in the docs or on the web site that player objects are not fully implemented or supported under Windows. And there will then need to be an alternative supplied that will do the same job for Windows apps. Miffed having spent hours wrestling with this problem, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Windows title reduced to a single character
Hi Chris, I tried this workaround a year ago and it helped indeed on some machines, but not on all(weired!), so I didn't used it. Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Chris Sheffield Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. Januar 2010 17:18 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: Windows title reduced to a single character I failed to mention that I have this line of code in my startup handler. Not sure if that's required or not. Might be okay to have it in preOpenStack as well. On Jan 28, 2010, at 8:36 AM, Chris Sheffield wrote: Hi Sarah, I believe this is the workaround we used: set the revruntimebehaviour to 4 I honestly don't remember the details behind this. It might be documented in the bug ticket (7290 or 6343). I think this is an undocumented property, and I'm not entirely sure what the value 4 means. Sorry for being rather vague. It's also possible that this line of code came to me as a result of emailing support directly. Anyway, hope it helps. Chris On Jan 28, 2010, at 3:20 AM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: Has anyone managed to find a work-around to the problem with a stack's title being reduced to a single character under Windows, if there is a player on the card? This is proving a real blocker for me at the moment, despite several bug reports, one of which says it was fixed in Rev 3.0. I'm using Rev 4.0 and a pre-release of Rev 4.5 and it's still happening there. So far the only solution I have found is to build the app using Rev 2.8 which seems a bit ridiculous and causes other problems. For further details see: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=6235 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=6343 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7290 Basically, it means that it is impossible to deploy a professional looking standalone under Windows if it uses a player. Checking the archives of this list, I see that Scott Rossi was reduced to trying to place a sub-stack over the title bar so as to fake the title of the stack but I don't know if that was successful. It certainly seems rather extreme for a problem that has supposedly been fixed. Mark Waddingham's work-around, suggested in September 2008, of setting the revRuntimeBehaviour to 4 does not work, at least not in the versions of Rev that I have tested. Maybe it worked in Rev 3. If this cannot be fixed, then I suggest that it be noted in the docs or on the web site that player objects are not fully implemented or supported under Windows. And there will then need to be an alternative supplied that will do the same job for Windows apps. Miffed having spent hours wrestling with this problem, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: parental control problems - Mac OS X
Hi Chris, I also had some permission issues with weird behaviours on different user accounts. are you sure it is only related with a parental control system, or do you also have customers without such a control experiencing it? Are you developing on Mac or Win? Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Chris Sheffield Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. Januar 2010 17:41 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: parental control problems - Mac OS X I'm wondering if anyone has run into this problem and, if so, what the possible fix would be. We have several customers (schools) reporting a problem with our Rev-built application when trying to implement parental controls on managed student accounts. Here's what's happening. When installing the application under an admin account (we're using a Vise X installer) everything appears to work as expected. The admin can launch the app and everything works fine. Then the admin grants access to our app, via parental controls, to the managed student account. After logging in with the student account, attempting to launch the app results in the infamous bouncing icon in the dock but then the app shuts down problem. What's even stranger, though, is that after attempting this and then logging back in with the admin account and attempting to run the app again, it doesn't work for the admin anymore. So it's like by attempting to run the app with a managed account, it is breaking something system wide. The only recourse at that point is to uninstall and reinstall. It seems like I remember somebody reporting a similar problem a while back, but I can't for the life of me find the details. Has anyone seen this? If so, is there a solution? Seems permissions-related, but as far as I can tell, permissions on the app bundle are set to what they need to be. So then I wondered if it might be some strange problem in the info.plist file in the app bundle. Could that be a possibility? The problem seems to be happening on both Leopard and Snow Leopard systems. Another thing that's strange is that all of a sudden we're getting a lot of support calls about this. It's almost like the most recent security update from Apple has caused the problem to appear for us. Other non-Rev apps seem to be unaffected, however. Thanks for any suggestions, Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Windows title reduced to a single character
I just don't have a machine on hand, which reproduces the problem, perhaps somebody else can check? In my case it is a videoplayer, which I can't switch easily to a substack without bigger redesign... Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Shao Sean Gesendet: Freitag, 29. Januar 2010 04:54 An: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Betreff: Re: Windows title reduced to a single character Have you tried setting the unicodeTitle of the stack window? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: is the platform on 64bit windows systems also win32?
Thank you Luis, I just wanted to get sure not to exclude 64 Bit Users when selecting the platform with Win32 :) Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Luis Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Januar 2010 12:00 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: is the platform on 64bit windows systems also win32? Hiya, Windows on both. The main difference with the 64 bit version is that it can address more than 3.5GB of RAM (the ceiling on the 32 bit version). Other than that there are issues with device drivers, but most now offer 64 bit versions. Unless your question relates to something else... Cheers, Luis. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
how to close a modal stack in IDE?
Hi, when opening a substack modal in the IDE, how can I close it, if I havn't yet implemented a close button (there are no controls in the title bar). Ok on windows I can use Alt + F4, but is this the wanted and only way and how do I close such a stack on Mac, or is there a rev way to close such a stack? Just curious, because I have trapped me already some times. Thanks Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: how to close a modal stack in IDE?
Thanks Ed, again learned a new shortcut on Mac :) Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Edward D Lavieri Jr Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Januar 2010 17:43 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: how to close a modal stack in IDE? Tiemo, I had this problem a couple of week's ago and was given this expert advice by Mark S.: On the Mac, press control-command-shift while pressing the mouse in the modal window. It is also possible to press command-shift while right-clicking with the mouse. On Windows and Linux, keep control-shift pressed while right-clicking in the modal window. -- HTH, Ed ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
is the platform on 64bit windows systems also win32?
Hi, I just wonder if this is actually so, as stated above? Actually I havn't thought about this up to now and just got a bit unsure, because I also haven't found an answer in the archives. Can anybody confirm my presumption because I don't have a 64Bit system on hand. Thank you Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: stack corrupted, loads on 4.0 but not on 4.5
Hi Andre, good to hear you have a not too old backup As having worked for years with Toolbook I can say that we are really lucky with RunRev where stack corruption almost is an exotic phenomenon - I havn't had any yet. But with the older (up to two years ago) versions of Toolbook file corruption almost was an daily experience with repair trials by good luck... Cheers Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Andre Garzia Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. Januar 2010 18:22 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: stack corrupted, loads on 4.0 but not on 4.5 It is not regression, it was working fine on 4.5 then, after a save, close and reopen, it stopped working saying it was corrupted. I tried loading on 4.0 to see if it was indeed corrupted, it worked fine but it stopped loading on 4.5. I use mercurial to manage my source code, so I reverted back to some revisions ago and it loaded, now I am recoding my morning work... sometimes rev is elusive. cheers for version control software. (with remote backups) On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: Andre Garzia wrote: anyone here has a clue on how to recover from a corrupted stack. Rev 4.5.0-dp-1 refuses to open it but Rev 4.0 loves it just like I do. don't want to revert to a previous version of the stack or of rev if possible, anyone knows how to solve this? I would email it to support. If it's opening in the shipping version of Rev but not in the DP it sounds like a bug, and corruption is rare enough with Rev that I would imagine it would get priority. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to create a Mutex on Win?
Hello (Trevor), I am using InnoSetup to update my app on Win. InnoSetup offers the feature to check, if the app is still running before updating with Mutex. I have found in the archives Trevors enhancedWin.dll to create a Mutex. My questions: 1. Is there a Rev standard way to create a Mutex in the current versions? 2. Is Trevors dll still the appropriate way to do it? 3. What are the experiences out there with this external? Is it reliable, does it still work on Vista and Win7? Any experiences welcome Thanks Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Re-2: Edinburgh Conference DVDs
Is there also a german saying for this - anybody? Don't find it in my dict ;) Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Richmond Mathewson Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Januar 2010 11:44 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: Re-2: Edinburgh Conference DVDs I don't know who is poking pigs; but I do feel a grunt coming on . . . :) On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:06 AM, runrev260...@m-r-d.de wrote: buy the cat in a bag (german saying, don't know the English one) to buy a pig in a poke ;-) Matthias ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- --- http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/dwriter.html --- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Edinburgh Conference DVDs
Ok, scanning all material from the conference, cutting and producing can actually take some time (shouldn't usually take soo long, but...) But what I don't like the most on this issue is that we have to pay in advance (me in October) and don't get a value for it over month. I think this is a not correct business behaviour with selling a simple DVD. I hope at least that we will get this year a good quality for our money and not that quality disaster as last year. I don't like being forced twice to buy the cat in a bag (german saying, don't know the English one) Sorry RunRev guys, my 2 cents Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Re-2: Edinburgh Conference DVDs
Good to know! :) Tiemo buy the cat in a bag (german saying, don't know the English one) to buy a pig in a poke ;-) Matthias ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Strange issue on Windows Vista
Hi André, that sounds strange. As far as I know and I experiences it every day there are (almost) no differences between Vista and 7 in this part of the system architecture. So I would believe it is not a matter of Vista or 7, but of different configurations / user rights / settings, etc. The only strange thing I can see is the blank in your path before the exe, but that is probably a typo and even if not it wouldn't make a difference between Vista and 7 Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Andre Rombauts Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Januar 2010 16:30 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Strange issue on Windows Vista Hello from the cold and snowy Belgium... I'm developping On Snow Leopard Enterprise 4.5 an application using MySQL libraries. The guy who is testing for me the Windows standalone reports that it is OK on XP and Windows7 but not on Vista. On Vista he is getting the error Object: stack revExternalLibrary of stack C:/Program Files/Chatou/ Chatou.exe I can generate a similar error if I remove the dbmysql.dll from the / database_drivers subdir in /Externals Is it possible to have issues on Vista and not on 7 or classic XP? André ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Path name to CD drive
Hello, if I want to get the path to an inserted CD, with name foo I can check on Mac the drives, if my disk is inserted. But actually the full path is /Volumes/foo/myfile Not having so much experience on Mac I would like to know, if I can always set /Volumes/ as a prefix before my disk name or is the name Volumes customizable on different Macs? Or is there another straight way to get the path to a known file on a known CD? Thanks Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Path name to CD drive
Hi Klaus, your kind of straight forward answers is always very welcome, no unnecessary words :) Frohe Weihnachten and a Happy New Year Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Klaus Major Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. Dezember 2009 15:41 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: Path name to CD drive Hi Tiemo, Hello, if I want to get the path to an inserted CD, with name foo I can check on Mac the drives, if my disk is inserted. But actually the full path is /Volumes/foo/myfile Not having so much experience on Mac I would like to know, if I can always set /Volumes/ as a prefix before my disk name Yes. or is the name Volumes customizable on different Macs? No. Or is there another straight way to get the path to a known file on a known CD? Not that I knew :-) Thanks Tiemo Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: OT: Urgent, how to force eject a CD from MacBook
Hi Barry, (My) MacBook doesn't have any pin hole anymore, I know that also from Windows Desktops, but also not on my Dell-Notebook anymore. Finally the hint from Jacques with the disc utility was the only way to eject the disc. I was already running nuts, because I had a delivery date for a CD at noon... Thanks anyway (also Sarah, Richmond and Francis) Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von bar...@libero.it Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. November 2009 11:36 An: Use List Revolution Betreff: Re:AW: OT: Urgent, how to force eject a CD from MacBook I rarely offer comments here because I use the digest which arrives twicw a day and someone else usually beats me to it. However, most CD drives have a small pin hole just under the tray, that's where you insert a straitened paperclip to trip the ejection spring. Dont do it too often as it can weaken the spring but it works everytime! Greetings to all. Barry Barber ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: Urgent, how to force eject a CD from MacBook
Hello, need urgent help. I was burning a CD in my Mac Book but canceled the job while running. Now the CD can't be ejected anymore, it turns, but neither with the eject button, nore from within liquid app it can be ejected. I have booted twice, while booting, the CD turns but can not be ejected Is there any emergency hardware trick to eject a not recognizable CD? Thanks for any quick help Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: OT: Urgent, how to force eject a CD from MacBook
Noop, the CD turns, the Mac trys to read it, but doesn't eject it. Thanks for any other idea? Any brute force? Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Richmond Mathewson Gesendet: Montag, 16. November 2009 11:19 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: OT: Urgent, how to force eject a CD from MacBook Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hello, need urgent help. I was burning a CD in my Mac Book but canceled the job while running. Now the CD can't be ejected anymore, it turns, but neither with the eject button, nore from within liquid app it can be ejected. I have booted twice, while booting, the CD turns but can not be ejected Is there any emergency hardware trick to eject a not recognizable CD? Thanks for any quick help Tiemo Try, while restarting, holding down COMMAND + E. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: OT: Urgent, how to force eject a CD from MacBook
Hi Sarah, holding down the mouse, didn't worked. The slot in my Mac Book has such a kind of a felt curtain and I can't see behind the curtain, where a notch could be, I don't want to push into the blind and perhaps destroy anything. Do you have an idea, where the noth is exactly located and how deep it is? Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Sarah Reichelt Gesendet: Montag, 16. November 2009 11:28 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: OT: Urgent, how to force eject a CD from MacBook need urgent help. I was burning a CD in my Mac Book but canceled the job while running. Now the CD can't be ejected anymore, it turns, but neither with the eject button, nore from within liquid app it can be ejected. I have booted twice, while booting, the CD turns but can not be ejected Is there any emergency hardware trick to eject a not recognizable CD? Reboot while holding down the mouse button. If that doesn't work, look inside the slot and see if there is a notch at either end for a straightened paper clip to push in and work the eject mechanism manually. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: OT: Urgent, how to force eject a CD from MacBook
Hi Jacques, MERCI MERCI BEAUCOUP!!! You saved not only my day, you saved my week! Thank you! Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Jacques Hausser Gesendet: Montag, 16. November 2009 11:33 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: OT: Urgent, how to force eject a CD from MacBook Another possibility: in case of problem, it is frequently possible to eject a disc from the disk utility. good luck ! Jacques Le 16 nov. 2009 à 11:28, Sarah Reichelt a écrit : need urgent help. I was burning a CD in my Mac Book but canceled the job while running. Now the CD can't be ejected anymore, it turns, but neither with the eject button, nore from within liquid app it can be ejected. I have booted twice, while booting, the CD turns but can not be ejected Is there any emergency hardware trick to eject a not recognizable CD? Reboot while holding down the mouse button. If that doesn't work, look inside the slot and see if there is a notch at either end for a straightened paper clip to push in and work the eject mechanism manually. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ** Prof. Jacques Hausser Department of Ecology and Evolution Biophore / Sorge University of Lausanne CH 1015 Lausanne please use my private address: 6 route de Burtigny CH-1269 Bassins tel/fax: ++ 41 22 366 19 40 mobile: ++ 41 79 757 05 24 E-Mail: jacques.haus...@unil.ch *** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: revlet not only on on-rev? was: some HD fun
Hello Jacqueline, excellent explanation. I always mixed it up. Now the technical view is clear. Perhaps you would like to give me also a brief example for an irev app, what you can't do with a revlet? Is it just having a host service and being able to connect to DBs without PHP or cgi? Probably not, probably irev is much more powerful, but I don't see it yet. With a revlet you can also mix HTML and xtalk (embedded in a plugin) in a web page. Yes Klaus, I have read on-rev home ;) Thank you Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von J. Landman Gay Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. November 2009 22:36 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: revlet not only on on-rev? was: some HD fun Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hi Klaus, one answer - one new question :) up to now I thought the code which is written in xtalk and runs in the runrev plugin in a browser IS a iRev script?! Obviously I am missing some basics iRev - revlet - plugin - on-rev ... There are two new web technologies. One is client-based and the other is server-based. 1. On-rev (irev): This is the server-based technology. It allows you to write web pages (called irev pages) using RevTalk. This works exactly like PHP, and you can mix HTML and irev scripts together in your web page code. The scripts are interpreted by software on the server, which then sends the final HTML output to the user's browser. You need an account with On-Rev right now if you want to use this, because only the RR server has the software to interpret irev scripting. Eventually RR plans to release the software for installation on any server, but that isn't ready yet. 2. Revlets: This is the client-based technology. The user downloads a browser plug-in which allows stacks to run inside a browser window, much like Flash or QT does. Because the plug-in is on the user's hard drive, revlets can run from anywhere. You can place your revlet on any server, just like you can store QT movies on any server. The plug-in downloads the file and does all the work inside the browser. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
