Re: Rev 2.9x and ADR

2008-03-26 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Klaus,

I checked the early betas and the graphics problem was gone! Haven't had 
much time to check further...

Cheers
Xavier


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 26/03/2008 09:59:56:

 Hi friends,
 
 I remember that the new version 2.9x should work on terminal servers 
 (again)?
 Is that correct or was I dreaming?
 
 Rev 2.9x run from a terminal server (via ADR) still has the same 
 graphical problems as before!?
 
 
 Regards
 
 Klaus Major
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.major-k.de
 
 
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Re: [OT] gmail behaviour

2008-02-28 Thread xavier . bury
Note that on windows, using Firefox (what else?), you are also in http...

I think the ajax (google style) behind is doing the encryption...
Im sure if you do a net capture, you'll see what happens behind the 
browser's curtain...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 28/02/2008 13:44:08:

 Are you blocking cookies in Safari?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Luis.
 
 
 On 28 Feb 2008, at 10:55, Kay C Lan wrote:
 
  On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Scott Rossi 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  FWIW, on my 10.4.11 system, both browsers land on http pages (neither
  shows
  as secure).  FF = 2.0.0.12, Safari = 3.0.4
 
  Thanks Scott.
 
  Mine is MacTel 10.4.11, FF = 2.0.0.8, Safari = 3.0.4
 
  Hmmm, the plot thickens.
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Re: Debugging Help

2008-02-27 Thread Xavier Bury
Hi Len

For your first problem, you can watch what is happening using the Message
watcher (in the development menu).

Put a message handler like this into your field's script:

on tabkey
  breakpoint
  pass tabkey -- debug step into here
end tabkey

(note it could another message like keydown or keyup etc that's triggering
the fld clearing, the msg watcher will tell...)

Once in debug mode at the breakpoint, continuing in debugging into the
pass tabkey handler should take you to the other tabkey script above in
the hierarchy that is clearing your field...

hope that helps...

For the second problem, it's a huge undertaiking that im sure has been done
before... Look around, maybe someone will tell you where to get it...

Cheers
Xavier

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Len Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm having trouble chasing down a problem: I have a field that is
 getting cleared as soon as you tab out of it.  I can't seem to locate
 where in the message path this is happening.  This SPECIFIC problem is
 mine to solve (punishment for a less than organized development approach).

 What I'm wondering is if there is a way to show the path a message would
 take through the message heirarchy.  In other words is there some way I
 could send an exitField (or closeField) message to a specific field and
 then get some sort of listing of the path that message would take?  In
 other words, is there some way to simulate the traceroute command used
 in networking to the message path?

 The other debugging chore I'd like to have is a stack compare function.
 Would it be difficult to create a function that would take two stack
 names as arguments and then display in two side by side panes the
 differences between them?  Not just scripts but objects, properties,
 etc?  I'm thinking of something like the interface that the
 BeyondCompare program (used to compare text files).

 Anyway, any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Re: Rev cgi vs. php

2008-01-31 Thread Xavier Bury
Tip for the wise:
You can go around this making your own virtual machine...
but that's not the most efficient way or for beginners...
Limits are a hindrance more than anything...

cheerios
Xavier


On Jan 31, 2008 10:45 AM, Luis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The scriptLimits is a real PITA. I use three other commercial dev
 environments, neither of which are crippled in this way.
 I haven't seen this type of limit imposed elsewhere (especially Open
 Source, that'd be like shooting yourself in the foot).

 I wouldn't suggest it as an 'enhancement' as it is a deliberate
 limitation.
 At times it feels like I'm using a trial version, purely because of
 this.

 Cheers,

 Luis.


 On 30 Jan 2008, at 19:52, Richard Gaskin wrote:

  Andre Garzia wrote:
 
  php is loaded as an apache module, so it has the feature of being one
  engine handling eerything which makes some stuff easy such as session
  tracking and data exchanges. It was also created from the ground
  up to
  be a web thing, thus sporting lots of libraries that helps building
  web stuff. With Rev, we have marvelous tools for the desktop but we
  had to coin our own web libraries.
  php has no scriptLimits, so it can read a chunk of text with mixed
  code in it and execute it in place, this is the way php developers
  usually code, they create web page templates with logic mixed with
  presentation. This is not the most elegant way that the
  über-pro-developers do but it makes good for quick prototyping and
  templating. With Revolution we can't do that, as soon as we reach an
  11 statements chunck, we're dead.
  If we had something like mod_revolution and no scriptLimits, we could
  conquer the web in no time.
 
  Maybe we don't need to eliminate scriptLimits in general if they
  were lifted for use within the CGI for the merge function.  Such a
  restriction wouldn't pose a risk to RunRev, and would cover 99.9%
  of all useful things we'd want to do with Rev on the web, wouldn't it?
 
  Shall I submit that enhancement request?  Should be simple to
  implement.
 
  Less simple would be to make an Apache module out of Rev.  How much
  work do you suppose that would be?
 
  I'm not too concerned about libraries.  After all, we have you. And
  on your day off we have another couple thousand scripters who
  collectively can churn out almost as much code as you. :)
 
  --
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Re: Rev cgi vs. php

2008-01-30 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Richard,

Other than many object oriented programming facilities, php is 
multi-threaded which is a major advantage over mono-tasking languages like 
rev.

But you are right, Rev is much easier to script... :)

cheers
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 30/01/2008 13:33:48:

 What advantages does Rev cgi have over PHP? Since I know Rev and 
 don't know PHP, it certainly has advantages for me. But how might I 
 argue this point to others who are familiar with PHP but not Rev?
 
 Thanks.
 Richard Miller
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Re: Bug 3509 and an open letter to Rev

2008-01-14 Thread Xavier Bury
There is a solution where you can copy using control-insert and paste using
insert, cut is control-forward-delete.
Dont know if it works on macs (maybe using command instead of control) but
on Win and nix it works so i presume it could work on Macs.

hope it helps
Xavier

On Jan 15, 2008 12:34 AM, Ian Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At the risk of sounding like a Rev apologist, the bug has 0 (zero)
 votes, Rev's senior engineer responded within an hour and a half
 (including lunchtime on this side of the Atlantic) of your comment,
 and normal office hours ended only three hours later.

 That said, it sounds like a REALLY irritating bug if it gets you. :-(

 Ian

 On 14 Jan 2008, at 21:38, Andrew Meit wrote:

  Rev,
  I found some-else have been having problems with edit menu-items
  becoming disabled. Its a 3 year old bug! Why would Rev allow a bug
  that blocks real full editing to fail after using Ask/answer/ask
  file/answer file remain unfixed
  I have found no work arounds given at the report. Oh, I can hack a
  forced update only within the Ide, BUT for a standalone fails.
 
  http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=3509
 
  Shalom, Andrew
 
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Re: adding Menu in IDE MenuBar

2008-01-11 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Thierry,

While it is not that hard (you can use the application browser to see what 
and where), i wouldn't touch the IDE. Instead, I would make a sticky 
window or palette sporting your menu - It would be more compaitible with 
future versions of the IDE and you wil have more room for exansion if need 
be... The reason is that if the IDE is updated, then you might have to 
change your plugin.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/01/2008 10:34:48:

 Hi all,
 
 
 when starting a private plug-in ( in Rev IDE ), I would like to
 add a new Menu in the standard MenuBar IDE
 
 Well, is this easy do to so
 without breaking, or having to learn all  the internal logic of the 
 IDE ,
 
 and if yes, any hints ?
 
 Regards,
 Thierry
 
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Re: adding Menu in IDE MenuBar

2008-01-11 Thread xavier . bury
Thierry,

I've done this with the MC ide to add a windows menu for example. I cloned 
the rightmost button/menu and refilled it. Didn't save the IDE and just 
rebuild it at launch which just took 2 seconds. 

Nothing complicated. Keep the scripts in a customproperty and recopy over 
the old script of the cloned button. Works like a charm. Until someone 
added a Hide tools checkbox in the menu/palette... :) So it is feasible 
but you have to retest it well each IDE release...

cheers
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/01/2008 11:13:59:

 
   Merci Xavier,
 
 
  While it is not that hard (you can use the application browser to 
  see what
  and where),
 
 Well, what i've seen so far, it's the RevEditor which changes the all 
 Menubar group,
 or even Glx2 doing the same
 Mmm, seems a bit overwhelming for my own stuff.
 
 
  i wouldn't touch the IDE. Instead, I would make a sticky
  window or palette sporting your menu - It would be more compaitible 
  with
  future versions of the IDE and you wil have more room for exansion 
  if need
  be... The reason is that if the IDE is updated, then you might have to
  change your plugin.
 
 yes, xavier, I'm aware of this, but I don't have much space around, 
 and an
 extra menu was just the perfect solution for me :-)
 So, doing this on my own computer,  risking only my live,.
 and delivering a palette when the time will come to spread out my 
 plugin :-)
 
 
 
  when starting a private plug-in ( in Rev IDE ), I would like to
  add a new Menu in the standard MenuBar IDE
 
  Well, is this easy do to so
  without breaking, or having to learn all  the internal logic of the
  IDE ,
 
  and if yes, any hints ?
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Re: OT:converting csv to xls with Rev

2008-01-09 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Matthias,

Excel imports csv files directly or tab files (which sql should also 
export). 

Learning the cvs for it should not be hard, there's a zillion examples out 
there. 

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/01/2008 14:08:04:

 Hi,
 
 does anyone know a way to convert a csv to xls with Rev under Windows?
 MS Excel is installed on the machine, where the app should run. 
 
 In my Rev app i connect to a MS SQL server and get data from it. This 
data is
 stored in a csv file on harddisk. But i also need a xls version of that 
data.
 
 At the moment i am using a 3rd party program, which i run from Rev 
 with command line switches.
 
 But i want to solve this completely with Rev. I assume, that i will 
 need vbs for this under windows.
 But i do not know enough about vbs.
 
 Regards,
 
 Matthias
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Re: Re-2: OT:converting csv to xls with Rev

2008-01-09 Thread xavier . bury
You can also search this list for various rants and solutions previously 
discussed about csv formats.

anyway this should help or get you started

http://www.thescripts.com/forum/thread641830.html

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/01/2008 15:02:27:

 Hi Xavier,
 
 thanks for your answer.
 
 You are right, Excel can import csv files directly.
 
 But the normal user would double-click on a csv, as the csv-file has
 an xls-icon under windows systems with excel installed. But this can
 cause problems, especially with our csv. Our csv-file is structured 
 like this: 01299;Text1;Text2;25;Text3
 As you can see, the first column contains numeric data, some  with a
 leading 0. Opening this file in excel would cut the leading 0 in the
 first row. And that would cause problems.
 
  Importing it using the import-menu in excel is allways successfull. 
 But that means more work for the user. The user wants just to open the 
file.
 
 That´s why i asked for converting it with Rev/VBS.
 
 Btw: There are various specifications and implementations for the 
 csv format. There´s no real standard. See http://tools.ietf.
 org/html/rfc4180#section-1
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Matthias
 
  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: OT:converting csv to xls with Rev (09-Jan-2008 14:27)
 From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Hi Matthias,
  
  Excel imports csv files directly or tab files (which sql should also 
  export). 
  
  Learning the cvs for it should not be hard, there's a zillion examples 
out 
  there. 
  
  Regards,
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Object Oriented fixes

2008-01-06 Thread Xavier Bury
Some of us complain about windows this or mac that or Oh SeXy software
there...

But we just love how it works and wonder at how much workmanship when into
IT...

In 2008 you have the best chances of shining on your happy clients with
their ware...

Here's how easy it could be... The Object Tested Oriented way...

http://www.livevideo.com/media/playvideo_fs.aspx?fs=1cid=F4B5854611D141AFA19359F36DCDC74F

Happy 2008 and success to all...
There will be no evolution without Revolution. ;)

Cheers
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Re: Multi-Tasking on Rev - Was copy large files in Rev on Mac

2007-12-18 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Dave,

The communications is made without communication of any sort. This allows 
things to be queud like transaction logs for DBs and there is no timeout 
issues ever.

What i did is the following:
- One app that generates batch commands in a transaction folder and every 
5 generations, launches an agent that executes those (a simple for loop in 
a batch). The batch commands write a log and then delete themselves. This 
app stays active all the time.
- One app that looks at a log folder for (of all things!) log files - if 
any are present, processing starts to read the files, process the output 
and send that to the DBs for later display - this app stays active all the 
time.
- One reporting app, it just reads my DB files and does the reporting, 
charts, exports if needed, etc...

I could have used some socket protocols but in our environment, firewalls 
rule and those in charge of the firewalls require too much paperwork and 
time to implement them - if and when they get it right too :)

For some other purposes, you could also have your application master clone 
and launch other applications - thus creating some sort of threads (with a 
rather heavy overhead for your memory compared to real threads). This was 
my first idea but the batches do the same much more efficiently. To work 
with these clones, you would need to create settings files for each clone 
assuming they recognize their own settings files - such as 
settings_cloneAppNameID.ini - which is just a text file comprising your 
parameters - although you could also use arguments when launching it, i 
haven't tested them...

I liked the simple approach of batches... Light, fast and easy to debug 
thanks to the logs. Just for the sake of it, i also write a transaction 
log to keep track of what happens each day.

Hope that helps
Cheers
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 18/12/2007 10:59:20:

 Hi,
 
 I have the same problem but creating a database rather than copying a 
 file.
 
 Xavier, you said you split an App into a number of smaller Apps to 
 achieve this, how did you communicate between the Apps? I can see you 
 can use AppleEvents on Mac, but how do you do it on windows?
 
 Thanks a lot
 All the Best
 Dave
 
 On 5 Dec 2007, at 12:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi Klaus,
 
  Welcome to the We Need Threads In Rev club :))
 
  The only way to get around this limitation is to write some extra 
  compiled
  applications to do the work to be threaded...
  If you remember i just recently split a big application into 
  smaller parts
  because of this too...
 
  Problem is that one could eat your cpu doing the processing while the
  others wait for CPU threads. Even with 4 CPUs...
 
  Triple the work per thread but oh well...
 
  How long until CPU safe threads come to rev? Anyone? Anyone?
 
  cheers
  Xavier
 
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Re: just a test - please ignore

2007-12-13 Thread Xavier Bury
Hi Sean!

Well, i didn't want to polute the list with the 24 mb corp foot each time
and at the same time avoid Lotus Notes as much as possible (you wouldn't
believe how much it shux)...

So i tried and tried in vain to register my gmail account but each time i
got moderated... X (

But im back!!! Hopefully with lots of goodies to come now that i have
MonsieurX.com working again as i wanted... Drupal is not for kids, xtalkers
and i sure took my time to verify that...

Cheers
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Re: just a test - please ignore

2007-12-13 Thread Xavier Bury
Hi Richmond,

Surprised you? I use metacard and since last summer rev professionally
almost every day (or used to) so i kept an eye for when they would fix the
win32 rdp bug. The only thing missing in the past more than half a decade...
Long wait for a bug fix, i tell you...

And since their quality is finally a priority effort, i decided to buy a
license - last summer...

On the personal basis, I still see no incentive to restart TAOO or another
Nitrous tools adventure yet but who knows... However the xtalk architecture
is still my prefered mode of operation and the only OS is deem worthy to get
my hands dirty with... So who knows what could happen on a rainy day?

La degustation du jour will be coming next year (when and what it it is
remains a surprise)...

cheerios
Xavier


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Re: Rdp (was) just a test - please ignore

2007-12-13 Thread Xavier Bury
Hey Mark,

Thanks for igonring this post :)

Neither did i ever lost it... The RDP bug was, as far as i can tell, a
palette type bug... Plagued MC and RR until 2.9...

The bug was that no colors really matched what you had designed out of
RDP/Citrix screens (usually with less bit depth than on a normal PC screen).
In 2.7 or rather 2.8 the white bg fields would be black bg'ed with black
text on them... As of 2.9 dp1, it is fixed...

So on we go with RR! You just can't stop the revolution ;)


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 Xavier-

 (continuing to 'ignore' the ignore request)

 I don't recall at the moment what the rdp bug issue was, but I just
 launched
 2.9-dp2 via an rdp session and ran several test stacks through debugging
 sessions, all without problems visual or functional. XP and (ugh) Vista
 Biz.
 I hope this is good news.

 oh... and glad you found your way back...

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Re: OT: VMware and Parallels

2007-12-12 Thread xavier . bury
Hi

I think your text missing issue is due to the RDP screen redraw bug that 
affects me since wo

http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=1076

Test it with 2.9 which has the fix to verify if that is not it first...

Regards,
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/12/2007 19:57:55:

 Hi Mark,
 
 The problems I reported a couple of days ago with not appearing 
 text for a program running WindowsXP was under VMWare's Fusion as I 
 mentioned. Perhaps the problems will disappear if/when I'm able to 
 test the program on a real PC Box. This program was compiled using 
 Rev 2.8.1. Have you been noting similar text problems with your 
 experiments? Otherwise, my program ran just fine.
 
 Joe Wilkins
 
 On Dec 11, 2007, at 10:38 AM, Mark Talluto wrote:
 
  Hello Everyone,
 
  I have run into an issue with 2.9 b2, OS 10.4.11, and Parallels 3 
  build 5580.  I have found Revolution created applications to be 
  very unstable when made to run via a shortcut in the startup folder 
  under both XP and Vista under the virtualization.
 
  I spent way too much time before trying it on a true PC boxes.  I 
  found the software to be stable on the real PC boxes.  I decided to 
  give VMware a try as I really make strong use of the virtualization 
  technology both of these products provide.  My applications under 
  VMware did not crash.  Using VMwares new beta conversion tool 
  (parallels to vmware converter), it was very simple to give this a 
  try.
 
  If you have been having any problems with Parallels, I thought you 
  might be interested and willing to try VMware.
 
  Side note:  Rev 2.8.1 is very stable under Parallels.  The 
  combination of Rev 2.9 and Parallels 3 causes the instability. 
  Since everything works correctly on a real pc and on vmware, I am 
  inclined to believe the problem is with Parallels and not Rev.  YMMV.
 
 
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Re: Menubar on Windows???

2007-12-12 Thread xavier . bury
If your menubar is positioned on top left of the window, and is designated 
the menubar of the stack, that's all you need.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/12/2007 13:53:36:

 So leaving aside all complexities like multiple windows, floating 
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 contained app to both mac and windows with a fairly basic menubar, 
 how do I do it? On the mac, I set the menubar of the stack to my 
 button group. This is apparently not necessary on Windows, so how 
 does Windows know which group to use for the menus in the stack window?
 
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Re: Menubar on Windows???

2007-12-12 Thread xavier . bury
Maybe it is for Mac only but then how does Rev know what command (or 
control) + Keys are the menu shortcuts?

Maybe this is part of why the edit menus work so sporadically...

If the menu doesn't appear, check out it's location and visibility...

Regards,
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/12/2007 14:36:44:

 Hi Xavier,
 
 But the the menuBar property is for MacOS only and I *do* set it on 
 windows at the moment, but no Menu Appears although it works ok on Mac.
 
 All the Best
 Dave
 
 
 On 12 Dec 2007, at 13:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi Dave,
 
  As i mentioned in a previous reply
 
  check out the command Set the menubar to ...
 
  Cheers
 
  Xavier
 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/12/2007 14:29:55:
 
  Hi,
 
  Yes, but HOW do you designate the menubar? According to the
  Docs, the menubar property is only used on the Mac.
 
  What if I have more than one menubar that I want to switch depending
  on context, how do I remove one and add the other as the Menubar to
  use???
 
  Thanks a lot
  All the Best
  Dave
 
 
  On 12 Dec 2007, at 13:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  If your menubar is positioned on top left of the window, and is
  designated
  the menubar of the stack, that's all you need.
  -=-
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  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/12/2007 
  13:53:36:
 
  So leaving aside all complexities like multiple windows, floating
  menu palettes, etc, if I want to port a simple stack as a self-
  contained app to both mac and windows with a fairly basic menubar,
  how do I do it? On the mac, I set the menubar of the stack to my
  button group. This is apparently not necessary on Windows, so how
  does Windows know which group to use for the menus in the stack
  window?
 
  -- Peter
 
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Re: Menubar on Windows???

2007-12-12 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Dave,

As i mentioned in a previous reply

check out the command Set the menubar to ...

Cheers

Xavier 


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/12/2007 14:29:55:

 Hi,
 
 Yes, but HOW do you designate the menubar? According to the 
 Docs, the menubar property is only used on the Mac.
 
 What if I have more than one menubar that I want to switch depending 
 on context, how do I remove one and add the other as the Menubar to 
 use???
 
 Thanks a lot
 All the Best
 Dave
 
 
 On 12 Dec 2007, at 13:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  If your menubar is positioned on top left of the window, and is 
  designated
  the menubar of the stack, that's all you need.
  -=-
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  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/12/2007 13:53:36:
 
  So leaving aside all complexities like multiple windows, floating
  menu palettes, etc, if I want to port a simple stack as a self-
  contained app to both mac and windows with a fairly basic menubar,
  how do I do it? On the mac, I set the menubar of the stack to my
  button group. This is apparently not necessary on Windows, so how
  does Windows know which group to use for the menus in the stack 
  window?
 
  -- Peter
 
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just a test - please ignore

2007-12-12 Thread Xavier Bury
test please ignore
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Re: Menubar on Windows???

2007-12-11 Thread xavier . bury
Hi 

One has to consider that windows menu are in-window just like any other 
group of objects. While mac menus are not...

I dont know how Rev handles mac menus, but once the menu group on windows 
is set, there's no more to it...

When a PC made stack is run on OSX, does the menu work correctly?

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/12/2007 15:00:03:

 
 On 11 Dec 2007, at 13:29, Dave wrote:
 
  Thanks for the help, I realize I have to set the MenuBar property 
  for Mac but are you saying that I should set it *only* for Mac? If 
  so, how does it know which MenuBar to display under windows?
 
 It should have no effect at all on Windows.
 
  I have the MenuBar in  a separate stack and do something like this 
  at present:
 
  set the menubar of this stack to myMenuBarGroupLongName
 
  Where myMenuBarGroupLongName is set to a Stack other than this 
  stack.
 
 OK, I think that's the problem. Windows programmers will have to chip 
 in here, but I think the menu group for a stack has to exist on that 
 stack.
 
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Re: Menubar on Windows???

2007-12-11 Thread xavier . bury
Not sure of the syntax but either you say set the menubar [of this stack] 
to whatevergroupname 

or

go to the menu builder and set it there via the edit button... Although i 
think there is or was a bug that made it forget which
was the menugroup... 

I never had the issue as the window's menu is pretty much anything you 
want and i dont port my stacks to
osx... 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/12/2007 16:17:27:

 
 On 11 Dec 2007, at 14:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi
 
  One has to consider that windows menu are in-window just like any 
  other
  group of objects. While mac menus are not...
 
  I dont know how Rev handles mac menus, but once the menu group on 
  windows
  is set, there's no more to it...
 
 This is what I don't understand. How to I set the menu group on 
 Windows? I can (and have set it and it works ok on Mac). I have a 
 Menubar group in a stack called MenuBar how can I use this menubar 
 group as the menu bar for the current stack under Windows?
 
 Thanks a lot
 All the Best
 Dave
 
 
  When a PC made stack is run on OSX, does the menu work correctly?
 
  Regards,
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  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/12/2007 15:00:03:
 
 
  On 11 Dec 2007, at 13:29, Dave wrote:
 
  Thanks for the help, I realize I have to set the MenuBar property
  for Mac but are you saying that I should set it *only* for Mac? If
  so, how does it know which MenuBar to display under windows?
 
  It should have no effect at all on Windows.
 
  I have the MenuBar in  a separate stack and do something like this
  at present:
 
  set the menubar of this stack to myMenuBarGroupLongName
 
  Where myMenuBarGroupLongName is set to a Stack other than this
  stack.
 
  OK, I think that's the problem. Windows programmers will have to chip
  in here, but I think the menu group for a stack has to exist on that
  stack.
 
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Re: Menubar on Windows???

2007-12-11 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Richard,

While the idea of a floating menubar is really nice (and so NeXT like!), 
it does pose a few problems on windows:

- win32 task bar object - rev here is a nightmare - click on one and the 
menubar still stays behind/hidden for example...
- If you hide the application, dont forget to hide the menu - but maybe 
that's not wanted but maybe yes other times
- submarining the menu as you mentioned - but sometimes it is the other 
way around. And there's a bug in RR where the palettes are submarined by 
the normal stacks (fixed in 2.9?)
- it's not standard and most windows users hate separate menus (as far as 
i've heard and seen them moan)
- a separate menu steals more desktop real-estate than an included menu

There's reasons why it could be cool but when you are used to menus being 
always on top of the window, you dont have to look for them. 
The same goes for a Mac user who sees their window while the menu of 
another application (which is active with no [overlapping] windows) is 
visible...

just my two revcents...
-=-
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/12/2007 16:36:57:

 Dave wrote:
  This is what I don't understand. How to I set the menu group on 
  Windows? I can (and have set it and it works ok on Mac). I have a 
  Menubar group in a stack called MenuBar how can I use this menubar 
  group as the menu bar for the current stack under Windows?
 
  From the Rev Dictionary entry for menubar:
 
 On Mac OS systems, when a stack's menubar property is set,
 the stack is scrolled and resized on Mac OS systems so that
 the group is not visible in the stack window. (On Unix and
 Windows systems, this is not necessary, since the menu bar
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 On Windows (and pretty every other OS but Mac), the convention is the 
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 menuBar property of a stack defines a group in a stack which will be 
 automatically scrolled out of view when run on OS X, but will appear in 
 place on all other systems.
 
 While contrary to convention, it's possible to have a menu bar on 
 Windows which is separate from the stack.  In fact, Rev does this, and 
 one of the products we develop here does also (though we're in the 
 process of redesigning it to adhere to convention in the next version).
 
 To have a separate menu bar on Windows just build the menu group in a 
 separate stack and open it as palette so that it doesn't get covered by 
 the other windows in your application.
 
 If your other windows are resizable you can also adjust the 
 windowBoundingRect property to account for your menubar stack, so 
 zooming won't submarine the top of the document below the menu stack.
 
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Re: copy large files in Rev on Mac

2007-12-05 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Klaus,

Welcome to the We Need Threads In Rev club :))

The only way to get around this limitation is to write some extra compiled 
applications to do the work to be threaded...
If you remember i just recently split a big application into smaller parts 
because of this too...

Problem is that one could eat your cpu doing the processing while the 
others wait for CPU threads. Even with 4 CPUs...

Triple the work per thread but oh well...

How long until CPU safe threads come to rev? Anyone? Anyone?

cheers
Xavier

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/12/2007 13:18:42:

 Hi all,
 
 how can one copy large files WITHOUT blocking everything?
 
 revCopyFile uses Applescrip which is blocking! At least in Rev, but 
 NOT when
 using the same script with the AppleScriptEditor!? :-/
 Using shell is also blocking!
 
 put url(binfile:...) is a no-no with  1GB video files
 
 Is there a way at all? Do I want too much again?
 
 
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Re: copy large files in Rev on Mac

2007-12-05 Thread xavier . bury
Since im going to learn some unix to manage our celerras (in red hat 
linux) i thought I'd ask our unix sysadmins...

the solution is indeed the  at the end of the command but to avoid that 
process to be killed (once the original shell is killed),
you should use nohup command  

dont know if this works in osx but it is std unix they say...

good luck :)


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/12/2007 14:00:06:

 Hi Ian,
 
  On 5 Dec 2007, at 12:18, Klaus Major wrote:
 
  revCopyFile uses Applescrip which is blocking! At least in Rev, 
  but NOT when
  using the same script with the AppleScriptEditor!? :-/
  Using shell is also blocking!
 
  This has come up a few times on the list, and basically revolves 
  around using a shell command that sends it's output to a text file 
  instead of back to Rev.
 
  Rev carries on because as far as it's concerned the shell command 
  has finished, then you can do some kind of loop checking the output 
  text file, without blocking.
 
  On 14 Aug 2006, at 09:48, Brian Yennie wrote:
 
  You might try something like:
 
  get shell(mylongcommand  output.txt )
 
 That really sounded good, but did not work in the end :-/
 
 My original blocking script:
 get shell(ditto  sourcefile  targetfile)
 
 Now with this extra param the file targetfile will be the extra param,
 which is extremely mentally challenging :-D
 # For the output file:
 put the tempname into tname
 get shell(ditto  sourcefile  targetfile  tname  )
 
 Does work non-blocking, but contents of tname = targetfile
 
 Then I tried this clever trick ;-):
 ...
 get shell(ditto  sourcefile  targetfile  targetfile  )
 which is blocking again...?
 
 Obviously this trick does not work for copy/ditto actions, or am I 
 overlooking something here?
 
 
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Re: öÖtolower(Ö)

2007-12-05 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Malte

Any diacritical character conversion for upper to lower and vv will need a 
custom table, one for Mac and one for PCs... linux too i would suppose...

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/12/2007 15:11:17:

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 slight prob over here. Casesensitive is false:
 
 put ö=Ö -- false
 put toLower(Ö) -- Ö
 
 anyone got an idea how I can compare if a string containing umlauts is 
 in another string REGARDLESS of the cases in both strings?
 
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Re: copy large files in Rev on Mac

2007-12-05 Thread xavier . bury
Sorry, slight misread... i thought you were already avoiding the revcopy 
handler and using AS. 

Note that the PC version is just as blocking. But my coment stands... No 
harm done  :)

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/12/2007 13:34:37:

 Hi Klaus,
 
 Welcome to the We Need Threads In Rev club :))
 
 The only way to get around this limitation is to write some extra 
compiled 
 applications to do the work to be threaded...
 If you remember i just recently split a big application into smaller 
parts 
 because of this too...
 
 Problem is that one could eat your cpu doing the processing while the 
 others wait for CPU threads. Even with 4 CPUs...
 
 Triple the work per thread but oh well...
 
 How long until CPU safe threads come to rev? Anyone? Anyone?
 
 cheers
 Xavier
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/12/2007 13:18:42:
 
  Hi all,
  
  how can one copy large files WITHOUT blocking everything?
  
  revCopyFile uses Applescrip which is blocking! At least in Rev, but 
  NOT when
  using the same script with the AppleScriptEditor!? :-/
  Using shell is also blocking!
  
  put url(binfile:...) is a no-no with  1GB video files
  
  Is there a way at all? Do I want too much again?
  
  
  Regards
  
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Re: answer folder sdsds;launch document it

2007-11-23 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Klaus,

Works as expected!
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 23/11/2007 10:44:42:

 Hi friends,
 
 I just happily discovered that these lines:
 ...
 answer folder sdsds
 launch document it
 ...
 
 actually opens that namely folder on OS X as if doubleclicked :-)
 And it works with or without a trailing slash!
 
 Can someone please check, if this does also work on a Windows machine?
 Thanks in advance!
 
 
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Re: revolution's web appliclation's servers made simple !

2007-11-22 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Pierre,

Very nice presentation. 

Just wanted to make a remark that on Win32 you can setup any rev made 
application to
be run as a service (or daemon) using the NT Resource kit's utility 
Instrsrv.exe. 
There are other methods but that's the simplest to my knowledge and it's 
free.

Regards
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 A short resume about how to set up revolution's web appliclation's 
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 http://www2.sahores-conseil.com/insead/index_en.html
 
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Standard behavior or not?

2007-11-19 Thread xavier . bury
Hi All,

I have a button that runs a stack script all in one and the same stack.

But when i click on the button, the handler is not found

I double checked, and the handler is well in the stack script which did 
compile well previously but which no longuer does! Hence the error - 
though this would never have happened in HyperCard, this is far from 
Hypercard now...

Maybe it's the 2.9dp2 crappy build. Anywhere i look, it's bug city... ;( 

But i found out what it was!

Push cd doesnt' compile - but still in dictionary.
pop cd doesn't compile but pop card does!

Worse, is that there is absolutely no warning that the script, which was 
well compiled before no longuer does, is in fault.

So i could go bananas trying to figure out why! The script i was calling 
was there, the script worked before too!

This is not the first time i see this happen either. But in case you also 
get this, now you know why!

Is there a bugzilla regarding this compile/runtime behavior? 
Searching is not something i want to do after entering a dozen new 
bugzillas.

Thanks in advance
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Re: Massive Speed difference between Mac/PC with SQLite

2007-11-16 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Dave

try this: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=259716

For a full read of similar issues, here's another usefull link:
http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=17984

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 16/11/2007 10:18:54:

 Hi,
 
 I have an application that works on Mac and PC. There is a process 
 that read an XML file, re-arranges the data and writes a record to an 
 SQLite database. On the Mac, to build a 10,000 Tracks database takes 
 around 90 seconds, how ever on the PC the same code (both in the 
 Standalone and the IDE) runs, much, much, slower. The same 10,000 
 records takes over 10 minutes!
 
 Does anyone have an idea why this should be?
 
 All the Best
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Re: Windows Display Problems

2007-11-15 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Dave,

I've seen this happen often. Seemingly the application is hung while 
working (most noticeable on vmware, citrix or Terminal
servers)...

What works in these cases is giving your monitoring window (progress bar) 
a real event instead of a Send update
event. Sending the update event usually means that there is a wait and 
sometimes this 
event never seems to get there. Another issue is the lock screen which 
sometimes doesn't unlock out of context.

I may be wrong and never really investigated since im the sole user of my 
programs which usually run all day long
updating things - so when i dont see something updated, i know where to 
look...

Please give us more details how you update your progress bar to get an 
idea...

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 I have an that is built as a standalone, part of it uses a Stack/ 
 Window to show a progress bar. On the Mac it works fine, on Windows 
 however, it doesn't update, the window gets displayed, but the 
 contents of a Text Field and the Progress bar itself never change.
 
 Any ideas on what might cause this?
 
 All the Best
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Re: Windows Display Problems

2007-11-15 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Dave - nice to scan u2!

Funny, i had the same setup in my old server operations control panel 
stack with nearly the same number and functions of calls...

[long term memory restore]

I had problems with that setup besides the missed screen updates i recall, 
i scratched the update dialog also because it couldn't catch an event when 
i press the cancel button while
something else was running in the back (unless i did lots more additions 
to my already big loop)!. 

I put the progress back in a group that was just a group simulating a 
dialog over the main interface window - and it worked out much better 
though it didn't look as professional... Some limitations sometimes 
requires these silly workarounds. :))

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 15/11/2007 14:29:33:

 Hi Xavier,
 
 Long time no scan! Thanks for the help on this. The way I am using 
 the Progress Bar is as follows:
 
 
 The progress stack had a number of Command Handlers that get called 
 by the using stack:
 
 ProgressInitialize - Initializes the Progress Bar and set the Ending 
 Limit in the Scroll Bar.
 ProgressFinalize - Closes the Progress Stack.
 ProgressUpdate  - Sets the Value of the Scroll Bar,
 ProgressSetCaption - Sets a message to be displayed in a field.
 
 The main stack then works like this:
 
 go stack Progress  --Initially Hiddens
 set the defaultStack to the name of this stack
 
 send ProgressInitialize theProgressEndValue to stack Progress
 
 then in a loop:
 
 ProgressSetCaption(The Caption)
 send ProgressUpdate theProgressAmount to stack Progress
 
 
 and finally
 
 send ProgressFinalize  to stack Progress  --Hides the Progress 
 Window and closes it
 
 That's about it really. This works fine on a mac!
 
 All the Best
 Dave
 
 On 15 Nov 2007, at 12:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi Dave,
 
  I've seen this happen often. Seemingly the application is hung while
  working (most noticeable on vmware, citrix or Terminal
  servers)...
 
  What works in these cases is giving your monitoring window 
  (progress bar)
  a real event instead of a Send update
  event. Sending the update event usually means that there is a wait and
  sometimes this
  event never seems to get there. Another issue is the lock screen which
  sometimes doesn't unlock out of context.
 
  I may be wrong and never really investigated since im the sole user 
  of my
  programs which usually run all day long
  updating things - so when i dont see something updated, i know 
  where to
  look...
 
  Please give us more details how you update your progress bar to get an
  idea...
 
  Regards,
  -=-
  Xavier Bury
 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 15/11/2007 13:10:49:
 
  Hi,
 
  I have an that is built as a standalone, part of it uses a Stack/
  Window to show a progress bar. On the Mac it works fine, on Windows
  however, it doesn't update, the window gets displayed, but the
  contents of a Text Field and the Progress bar itself never change.
 
  Any ideas on what might cause this?
 
  All the Best
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Re: Planning ahead for threads and more interactivity in rev apps

2007-11-13 Thread Xavier Bury
The communications is what i didn't need. The 3 apps I made are a reporter
which pulls the info,
a bat generator - generates what needs to be launched and a monitor which
also kills zombie processes.

The bat generator creates the batches (never too many) and launches a bat
that runs alls batches.

I might do some db storage with it later but not planed or needed for the
moment.

The tricky part was to know which process is which that was hung or launched
by this process and that was resolved
by tracking the cmd's PID's with pstool from sysinternal.com. Nice and
easy...

On Nov 13, 2007 8:51 AM, Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey X,

 I had to do something like this quite awhile back on XP, and (if I
 remember
 correctly) I managed to either shell a .bat or use open process (can't
 remember which), which returned control immediately to Rev. Then I could
 watch a temp file and do stuff when it changes. The 'send in time' or
 'wait
 with messages' seemed to work fine for me, no lost mouseclicks or
 anything.

 To me it seemed much simpler than actually writing multiple Rev apps which
 talk w/each other.

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Re: Planning ahead for threads and more interactivity in rev apps

2007-11-09 Thread xavier . bury
Thanks for everyone's input...

I came to the conclusion that my once-simple scanning program ended up 
with too many reporting features. So i have to separate them. I will have 
3 different applications in the end. One for scanning, one for monitoring 
the scanning and one to do the reporting.

I cannot use sockets or the like just because of the complexity it would 
add to the system plus the lack of tracking should anything go wrong. This 
is the same kind of issues with a cgi-based processes - if any of them 
hang, you dont know which one it is and you must kill all the processes to 
be clean again... We've had lots of issues with this which is why i wont 
go that way.

The plan i made is to write simple transactions to files and have a cmd 
helper run these. These create their logs which is what i need and then 
delete the transaction file once done. This way if anything happens i can 
track where it went wrong (the transaction is not deleted for example)... 
Also i can limit the number of processes easily since rev creates the 
transactions
only if there is no excess transactions left to be done...

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Re: Planning ahead for threads and more interactivity in rev apps

2007-11-09 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Luis,

I thought about that long ago, but decided to use flat files to keep the 
stats and this has worked really
well over the years. One file per server for 400+ servers. 

Also DBs are slower in comparison to a file loading... I'd have to make 
one or more transactions per server where as i load the file into a 
variable and i have all the data there...

keeping it simple... The files repository is centralized in this way...

thanks for the suggestion...
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/11/2007 10:31:14:

 Instead of files 'per se', why not write to a database? Keeping it 
 centralised.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Luis.
 
 
 On 9 Nov 2007, at 09:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Thanks for everyone's input...
 
  I came to the conclusion that my once-simple scanning program ended up
  with too many reporting features. So i have to separate them. I 
  will have
  3 different applications in the end. One for scanning, one for 
  monitoring
  the scanning and one to do the reporting.
 
  I cannot use sockets or the like just because of the complexity it 
  would
  add to the system plus the lack of tracking should anything go 
  wrong. This
  is the same kind of issues with a cgi-based processes - if any of them
  hang, you dont know which one it is and you must kill all the 
  processes to
  be clean again... We've had lots of issues with this which is why i 
  wont
  go that way.
 
  The plan i made is to write simple transactions to files and have a 
  cmd
  helper run these. These create their logs which is what i need and 
  then
  delete the transaction file once done. This way if anything happens 
  i can
  track where it went wrong (the transaction is not deleted for 
  example)...
  Also i can limit the number of processes easily since rev creates the
  transactions
  only if there is no excess transactions left to be done...
 
  Thanks too all who answered for your help and suggestions!
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Re: check if handler exist before using it

2007-11-09 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Thierry,

I usually check to see if on handlername is in the script of

this works for on handlers and functions too... Not for setprop mind 
you...

If you really want to be sure, you can also check end handlername

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/11/2007 15:57:30:

 Hi,
 
 As there is the rev function:
exists( an object ) or  there is  ,
 
 is there something like
 exists( whateverFunction )  in anyObject
 
 Well, i know i could parse the scripts 
 but is there a more simple way ?
 
 By the way, I need this to be called from inside an external.
 
 Thanks for enlightenment,
 
 Regards,
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Re: check if handler exist before using it

2007-11-09 Thread xavier . bury
That is as generic and simple as it gets.

No parsing needed - just if on getit is in the script of mycontrol then 
do it

For protected stacks, i have no idea as i dont ever protect them... 
I guess that once the password is entered, it's the same...

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/11/2007 16:21:21:

 Thanks Xavier,
 
 Do you mean you're parsing the text of the script ?
 
 But then how do you do, if you have a protected stack,
 where the text script is not available anymore ?
 
 ps: i'm looking for a generic method.
 
 Regards,
 Thierry
 
  Hi Thierry,
 
  I usually check to see if on handlername is in the script of
 
  this works for on handlers and functions too... Not for setprop mind
  you...
 
  If you really want to be sure, you can also check end handlername
 
  cheers
 
  Hi,
 
  As there is the rev function:
 exists( an object ) or  there is  ,
 
  is there something like
  exists( whateverFunction )  in anyObject
 
  Well, i know i could parse the scripts 
  but is there a more simple way ?
 
  By the way, I need this to be called from inside an external.
 
  Thanks for enlightenment,
 
 
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Planning ahead for threads and more interactivity in rev apps

2007-11-08 Thread xavier . bury
Hi everyone,

In order to make an application more responsive, im thinking of 
implementing a kind of threading so that the application can still run 
while the GUI remains responsive. The application in question is a domain 
scanner and it scans some hundreds of servers which takes quite a while 
given the number of servers, their locations or type (phys. or virtual). I 
dont need this to go faster mind you but i dont want to go slower 
either... 

All i need is to be able to browse tabs and eventually change a setting or 
another.

Problem is that mouse interception is not really working because of the 
intermittent shell calls and any mouseclick seems to get lost. Unless i 
want to click for 1-4 minutes and wait with the mousedown which i dont 
really fancy for anyone to suffer.

Using send is also not a good idea because i use shell commands that may 
take different times to finish - some servers are vmware slow or are 
located in places like dubai or Prague may not respond too quickly... 
Problem with the send command is that if you ask it to send something in 5 
seconds and there is a process already running, the send will definitely 
not run in 5 seconds... And worse, it may prevent intercepting your 
mouseclick.

I was thinking of a script that runs the shell, waits if mouseclick or 
something like that... But last thing i want is to make this complex code 
more complex... And im not sure the mouseclick will not be lost while the 
script runs. 

Something interactive is what I am looking for...

Last but not least, i can't (or dont want to) manage more than 1 shell 
running at a time using a quick batch runner - meaning i'll have to manage 
interleaving and limiting processing load. The server has other functions 
and i can't monopolize the processors... Although this seems like my best 
solution.

Im just planning ahead this feature so all your ideas are welcome! Im sure 
many of us revvers are looking for a script like this at some point for 
applications that take time to process... 

Thanks in advance
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Re: More option control anomalies on Windows

2007-11-06 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Richard,

I think i filed that bug long long long ago - along with mousewheel 
problems, and navigation keys that dont work either (not that they work 
the way windows users are used to either)!

In that respect there's still lots of issues outstanding...

Unfortunately someone in their mis-wisedom decided to rename my name in my 
bugzillas and can't find it anymore ;-(

I can find 3 bugzillas only out of the 100's i wrote...

after half hour... I found it... 

http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=1639

You have to love the cant reproduce comments X2 there... 

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 I just filed a bug report for this:
 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=5512
 
 Any of you using Windows?  Clients asking you for these common 
 behaviors?  Feel free to add you vote
 
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  ...I now have a tougher challenge:
  
  On Windows it's customary to allow navigation of the popup menu in an 
  option control by typing the first letter of an item in that menu.
  
  So for example if the popup contains:
  
  Ken
  Jacque
  Jeanne
  Richard
  
  ...then typing r will select Richard, and typing k will select 
  Ken.  While the user is navigating the menu it remains popped up, 
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  Apparently Rev doesn't support this.
  
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Re: Getting the Current User Name On Windows

2007-10-19 Thread xavier . bury
shorter than that is to do 

echo %username%

Net user USERID /dom is used to find user's infos on the network. Much 
slower...

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19/10/2007 16:04:36:

 Hiya,
 
 It's 'net user' (without the apostrophies).
 
 If you add the '/?' switch you get the list of options.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Luis.
 
 
 
 On 19 Oct 2007, at 14:56, David Burgun wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I'm using the whoami shell  function to return the current user 
  name on the Mac. Does anyone know the equivalent code for Windows?
 
  Thanks a lot
  All the Best
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Re: Setting last modified date of a file from within Rev

2007-09-15 Thread xavier . bury
Eric,

Even with VBS this is not possible to change a file's date as far as i can 
tell or find.

I think that if you need a solution for this it is going to be more like a 
workaround. 
One suggestion could be to write your data elsewhere like another stack...
But i think you dont want your user to know what has changed...

Maybe write to the registry? Or an encrypted file could be a solution... 

The only viable solution is to store the touch.exe file somewhere, do you 
change
restore the touch exe, run it and then delete the touch.exe...

As far as i know most of these touch.exe utilities are in the public 
domain or freeware.

Regards,
Xavier

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 14/09/2007 20:57:40:

 Eric wrote:
   I'm going to reformulate my question more precisely:
   I have a Rev exe on the user's machine with many other files.
   I want to be able to write some data to one of these files (actually
   a Rev stack but it does not matter) and save it.
   But I don't want the modification date to be changed (on the desktop,
   in the file 'Properties' window, etc.) .
 
 I wonder if there may be a very different way to solve this problem.
 
 What is the user benefit you're trying to achieve with this change?
 
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Re: Setting last modified date of a file from within Rev

2007-09-14 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Eric,

Best best for this is a Touch command. Not all are the same and some 
dont allow all the options.

http://www.donationcoder.com/Forums/bb/index.php?topic=5540.msg38511#msg38511

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 14/09/2007 13:40:03:

 Hi all,
 
 I wondered how to modify the creation, last modified, accessed date 
 of any file on Win (XP and Vista) from within Rev (i.e. by Rev coding 
 and without using a third party software).
 Probably some shell command I ignore :-)
 Any hints will be welcome.
 Thanks.
 
 Best regards from Paris,
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Re: Setting last modified date of a file from within Rev

2007-09-14 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Eric,

Unfortunately there is no built in command that i know off other than this 
shell command. 
You need a 3rd party tool (most are free though) to do this or write an 
external...

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 14/09/2007 14:06:26:

 Hi Xavier,
 
 Good to hear from you :-)
 I am searching for a 'whole Rev' solution (without any additional 
 stuff) I would be able to run on any user machine...
 
 Le 14 sept. 07 à 13:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
 
  Hi Eric,
 
  Best best for this is a Touch command. Not all are the same and some
  dont allow all the options.
 
  http://www.donationcoder.com/Forums/bb/index.php? 
  topic=5540.msg38511#msg38511
 
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  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 14/09/2007 13:40:03:
 
  Hi all,
 
  I wondered how to modify the creation, last modified, accessed date
  of any file on Win (XP and Vista) from within Rev (i.e. by Rev coding
  and without using a third party software).
  Probably some shell command I ignore :-)
  Any hints will be welcome.
  Thanks.
 
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The Register

2007-09-14 Thread xavier . bury
In case any of you missed it, the register (http://theregister.co.uk) has 
news about RunRev linux update!

http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2007/09/13/runtime_revolution_linux/

Knowing the register, and their rather twister humor, lets hope the 
release is tiptop from the start!

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Re: Accessing files on CD drives under Windows

2007-09-06 Thread xavier . bury
DiskPart is an interactive shell application, like telnet or ftp, it will 
wait for your next input which Rev still can't handle. 
I think i proposed the feature to MetaCard long ago but it is most likely 
not coming.

Also for diskPart to work, you need to select which disk and which 
partition you want to list each time. So just that will fail you...

To find the volume name, you go through each letter in the volumes() 
function and do a 

repeat for each line driveletter in the volumes
  put last word of shell(dir  driveletter  | findstr /i  Volume in 
drive)  CR after volumeNameList
end repeat

This will return the line which has the volume name out of the list. 
Normally just the last word but it could be more than one which would make 
the script above a bit more complicated... Left as an excercise ;)

regards,
Xavier

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 06/09/2007 10:23:47:

 
 Le 29 nov. 06 à 17:38, Geir A. Myrestrand a écrit :
 
  Francis Nugent Dixon wrote:
 
  Anybody know how I can find the Volume Names on all the PC devices,
  as is possible on the Mac, so I can access my CD files ?
 
  You can use the list volume command in diskpart:
 
  C:\diskpart
 
  Microsoft DiskPart version 5.1.3565
 
  Copyright (C) 1999-2003 Microsoft Corporation.
  On computer: STINKPAD
 
  DISKPART list volume
 
Volume ###  Ltr  LabelFs TypeSize 
  Status Info
--  ---  ---  -  --  --- 
  - 
Volume 0 D   Linux Devic  CDFS   DVD-ROM  307 MB
Volume 1 C   IBM_PRELOAD  NTFS   Partition 71 GB  Healthy 
  System
 
 
 
 Hello,
 
 How use these commands with Rev to get the list ?
 this script :
 put shell(Diskpartcrlist volume doesn't work (diskpart seem 
 frozen)
 
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Re: Help with shell() script

2007-09-04 Thread Xavier Bury
Unfortunately running a shell interactively is not possible...

You can execute any written batch though...
React on the file logs or results returns via a shell...
Persistent data and variables may vary on mileage and usage...
Plan around it, that's the way i know...

Search ssl in www.runrev.com for more...

I haven't used SSL but I though i'd point out to the shell issue and
possible solutions...

cheers
Xavier


On 8/29/07, Paul Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes Xavier,
 this is the problem, I am trying to script the openssl shell.
 I can run a single command from the cmd.exe shell but it quits at the end,
 what I need is a way to open the opessl shell and then read and write
 shell
 commands to it but the '/C' keeps gettng in the way.

 Has anybody else had any success with working with this?

 Paul

  I checked it with a little script:
 
  set the shellcommand to c:\apps\cygwin\ls.exe
  get shell() -- needs the quotes apparently or it wont compile
  answer it
 
  when you execute this you will see again the damn /c in the error
  message
 
  Tested quickly in MetaCard... should be the same in Rev...
 
  cheers
  Xavier
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 29/08/2007
  16:58:10:
 
   Hi Paul,
  
   The problem, if im correct, is that you are assigning the shell to
  be
  the
   exe to be exectuted in the shell...
  
   Set the shellcommand to cmd.exe -- reset it to what it should be
  - if
  im
   correct... i didn't know we could set dir and the shell
  command!
   get shell(filepath  Version)
  
   should work better IMOHO...
  
   Unfortunately i dont have the openssl.exe from cygwin to test.
  
   hope that helps
   cheers
   Xavier
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 29/08/2007
  16:44:59:
  
   
I am trying to use the openssl function within cygwin in
  windows.
The following is the script, instead of sending the command
  'version'
  to
openssl it appears to be sending /C as the result quotes that
  /C
  is
   not
a valid command.
   
The it variable contains:
openssl:Error: '/C' is an invalid command.
Standard commands
asn1parse ... 
   
   
Putting 'version' in at the prompt works OK.
What am I doing wrong and where does the /C come from?
   
Paul
   
on mouseUp
  set the hideconsolewindows to true
  put   c:\cygwin\bin\openssl.exe into filepath
  open process filepath
  set shellcommand to c:\cygwin\bin\openssl.exe
  put version into shellc
  get shell(version)
   answer it
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Re: Help with shell() script

2007-08-29 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Paul,

The problem, if im correct, is that you are assigning the shell to be the 
exe to be exectuted in the shell...

Set the shellcommand to cmd.exe -- reset it to what it should be - if im 
correct... i didn't know we could set dir and the shell command!
get shell(filepath  Version)

should work better IMOHO...

Unfortunately i dont have the openssl.exe from cygwin to test.

hope that helps
cheers
Xavier

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 29/08/2007 16:44:59:

 
 I am trying to use the openssl function within cygwin in windows.
 The following is the script, instead of sending the command 'version' to
 openssl it appears to be sending /C as the result quotes that /C is 
not
 a valid command. 
 
 The it variable contains:
 openssl:Error: '/C' is an invalid command.
 Standard commands
 asn1parse ... 
 
 
 Putting 'version' in at the prompt works OK.
 What am I doing wrong and where does the /C come from?
 
 Paul
 
 on mouseUp
   set the hideconsolewindows to true
   put   c:\cygwin\bin\openssl.exe into filepath
   open process filepath
   set shellcommand to c:\cygwin\bin\openssl.exe
   put version into shellc
   get shell(version) 
answer it
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Re: Help with shell() script

2007-08-29 Thread xavier . bury
I checked it with a little script:

set the shellcommand to c:\apps\cygwin\ls.exe
get shell() -- needs the quotes apparently or it wont compile
answer it

when you execute this you will see again the damn /c in the error message

Tested quickly in MetaCard... should be the same in Rev...

cheers
Xavier

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 29/08/2007 16:58:10:

 Hi Paul,
 
 The problem, if im correct, is that you are assigning the shell to be 
the 
 exe to be exectuted in the shell...
 
 Set the shellcommand to cmd.exe -- reset it to what it should be - if 
im 
 correct... i didn't know we could set dir and the shell command!
 get shell(filepath  Version)
 
 should work better IMOHO...
 
 Unfortunately i dont have the openssl.exe from cygwin to test.
 
 hope that helps
 cheers
 Xavier
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 29/08/2007 16:44:59:
 
  
  I am trying to use the openssl function within cygwin in windows.
  The following is the script, instead of sending the command 'version' 
to
  openssl it appears to be sending /C as the result quotes that /C 
is 
 not
  a valid command. 
  
  The it variable contains:
  openssl:Error: '/C' is an invalid command.
  Standard commands
  asn1parse ... 
  
  
  Putting 'version' in at the prompt works OK.
  What am I doing wrong and where does the /C come from?
  
  Paul
  
  on mouseUp
set the hideconsolewindows to true
put   c:\cygwin\bin\openssl.exe into filepath
open process filepath
set shellcommand to c:\cygwin\bin\openssl.exe
put version into shellc
get shell(version) 
 answer it
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Re: Bug prevents Rev from building a standalone PC application

2007-08-09 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Jacquie and Arthur,

Just wanted to say that i've encountered the same problem in Win2003 and 
2.8.1 build 470.
Nothing made it work and the rev install is totally clean - no mods or 
externals or anything.
The script so basic i couldn't believe it. Compiled right away on 
Metacard...

Regards,
Xavier

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  This is getting ridiculous. I just copied and pasted *3 lines of text*
  from the project that wouldn't build, into an older project that does,
  and blammo, neither will build now.
  
  Any suggestions?
 
 Did you change any of the standalone settings after moving the text? Are 

 the stacks password protected? It's okay to set a password in the 
 standalone settings, but the build will fail if you've password 
 protected the stack manually before building.
 
 If neither of these is the case, then send a copy of the stack that 
 fails to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. They can look at it on Monday and if 
 there is anything wrong with the standalone builder it can be diagnosed 
 and fixed.
 
 The support queue doesn't do well with large enclosures, so if the stack 

 is large, it is better to include a link to a download stored on a 
 server somewhere. The team can download the stack and see what's wrong. 
 You shouldn't be getting errors like you describe.
 
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test, please disregard

2007-07-05 Thread xavier . bury
Im wondering why i send a message to the rev list and it doesn't show 
up...
where the bottleneck i wonder?



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Re: How to select and move an image using 1 mouse click?

2007-07-05 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Ian,

You can do this in a mousedown message.

on mousedown
  loadimage
  repeat while the mouse is down
movemyimage
  end repeat
end mousedown

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/07/2007 13:39:31:

 Hi
 
 I have written an application which allows the user to choose an image
 by clicking on a button displaying an icon sized representation of the
 image. The image appears (it is copied from a custom prop into a
 'blank' image) and can then be moved under mouse control to any
 location on the screen. This process takes two mouse clicks; the first
 to select the shape and the second to grab the image itself, and works
 perfectly.
 
 However the affect I would like is that as soon as I mousedown on the
 button, my larger image appears under the mouse which can then be
 dragged to any location on the screen before being released ie a one
 click solution.
 
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
 
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Re: the files functions doesn't work correctly withdiacriticalcharacters

2007-07-02 Thread xavier . bury
thanks Viktoras!

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 21/06/2007 11:37:07:

 Hi Xavier,

 this may be related to a collection of semi-resolved/partially-fixed
(engine
  unicode support?..) bugs where characters outside of the standard
Western
 European character set are not being translated correctly. I guess it is
the
 same problem that prevents me from developing software in my own native
 language as revolution does not understand input from my keyboard when
set
 to LT. These issues are fixed for some languages (it was reported for
Polish
  Hungarian, Czech some time ago and now it seems like it is fixed), and
not
 fixed for others.

 See the quality reports 4677, 441, 1038, 1040, 1358. Look like a
 long-standing issues with priority downgraded to minor...

 All the best!
 Viktoras
 ---Original Message---

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 20/06/2007 16:21:46
 To: How to use Revolution
 Subject: Re: the files functions doesn't work correctly
 withdiacriticalcharacters

 I think i found the problem:

 The font (ms sans serif) of the fields in the revVariableWatcher doesn't

 show the diacriticals as expected!!!
 The Tahoma font works fine... well, sometimes...

 set the directory to fld path
 put the files into fld log -- works great at least in a tahoma field.

 Which doesn't explain why the filename comparisons dont work yet but the

 files functions works correctly at least!

 I changed all the revVariableWatcher's field to Tahoma but the shell's
 output was still unreadable!

 So it's the shell! But in the shell (cmd.exe) dir displays correctly !!!

 ;)

 Next step was to change the encoding of the shell from the standard 850
 western1 codes to 1252. Because i found out
 meanwhile that when piped to a file dir didn't show the text as expected

 (sorry rev if i blamed this on you)!!!

 And with chcp 1252 it did work as expected!

 But then wabam, I can't get shell to do the right thing now!

 I need to tell the shell that it needs to do first a chcp 1252 and then
in
 the same shell call, a dir of the folder but ...

 Only the first line of the shell gets evaluated it seems! This is a
 serious limitation in this case... And a speed problem since
 the shell can't be done in rev but needs to be sent via a start.exe then

 piped out then reinjected in rev in the right chr set...

 And I thought rev was easy all over! If anyone is interested in
multiline
 shell calls in rev let me know, i'll make a bugzilla...

 cheers
 Xa

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 20/06/2007 13:42:56:

  Hi everyone,
 
  I have this file scanner that does some file listings and which needs
to

  compare outputs with a shell dir.exe command (in windows 2003).
  The shell is too slow but it is the only one that shows me which files

 are
  DHSM based (offline storage off the main storage).
 
  The problem i found is that the shell based dir output works correctly

 but
  the runrev the files functions doesn't.
 
  The runrev output doesn't translate correctly the diacritical
characters

  such as umlauts, or other german/french style characters.
 
  Has anyone seen this and better resolved it? Is there already a
bugzilla

  for this?
 
  For the funny part, when i ask in rev if the file is there with the
  shell's file name output, rev does recognize it but i do a comparison
of

  strings between
  the shell and rev's the file output, they do not match!!! Meaning that

 the
  files functions is not compliant with windows?
 
  The shell's codepage is 850 in case anyone wondered. Is there anyway
to
  change the codepage of rev's output?
 
  Thanks in advance for any help
 
  Regards,
  Xavier
 
 
 



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Re: Cached by Google

2007-06-26 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Eric,

I think google looks more for the robots.txt files to see what to 
ignore...

Regards,
-=-
Xavier Bury


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 26/06/2007 15:52:01:

 Hi all,
 
 You can put a html line in any page to tell crawlers to ignore it :-)
 meta name=robots content=noindex
 But actually it's not enough.
 See http://www.webmasterworld.com/google/3044757.htm
 
 Le 26 juin 07 à 14:12, Scott Kane a écrit :
 
  - Original Message - From: Shari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Perhaps it could be removed by telling Google to delete the URL? 
  I wouldn't call their system for this user friendly, but they do 
  have a way to do it.  Their next crawl of the site would 
  presumably also do it, and a crawl can also be requested with 
  their Add Url tool.
 
  Yes.  But if the WayBack machine http://www.archive.org  has 
  grabbed it, it's there forever.
 
  Scott
 
 
 Best regards from Paris,
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Re: Stack Trace Function

2007-06-22 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Len,

There's the classical and there the global way to debug... Im sure some 
people in the best practices thread might not like what i say but it is 
a suggestion and nothing prevents you from using a custom prop either to 
do the same thing. I love globals.

But what i can propose as a solution is this:

There's tracing and there's debug traces...
If you want to debug something for example:

global debugcheck

on myhandlerOrEvenTtriggerOrFunctionName 
  if debugcheck is true then debugcheckpoint

then you will be tracing in debug mode...

The other way is more complicated however. If you want a written trace and 
not a debug trace,
then what you would do is to have a parallel statement to all your 
statements that get or set
some value somewhere to be written to a debug file. For example:

global debugcheck

on myhandlerOrEvenTtriggerOrFunctionName aparam
  if debugcheck[status] is true then writetotracefile(Executing 
myhandlerOrEvenTtriggerOrFunctionName ,parameter,aparam)
  get something(aparam)
  if debugcheck[status] is true then writetotracefile(Executing 
myhandlerOrEvenTtriggerOrFunctionName ,get something(aparam), it)

etc...

The second solution is very useful if you need to see what the customer is 
doing without you having to intervene. Just ask the user for the trace 
file and you can see what happens.

the second solution can be triggered via a config file with a debug 
parameter read at teh start of your program or a preferences feature in 
your gui. 

Second solution is not the simplest but damn it rocks when you need it! 
The first solution is my favorite though. I also use a separate stack to 
collect the debugging history which 
can be quite helpful for post-error analysis.

hope that helps
Xavier


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 is some sort of stack trace fuction (like there is in Tcl/Tk) so that 
 when a message is sent, I can see the calling sequence that got me 
there?
 
 What's happening is that I have a message that clears a group when the 
 group is selected (kind of like a tabbed group) and also whenever a new 
 record is read while the group is being already being displayed (I don't 

 want to leave data from a prior record in a field that might not be used 

 in the current record).  When I select a new record, the fields are 
 getting cleared 2 or 3 times (the screen blinks) and I can't find all 
 the places that are calling that routine (and in what order).
 
 It doesn't have to be fancy, just some what to see who's calling who, 
when.
 
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the files functions doesn't work correctly with diacritical characters

2007-06-20 Thread xavier . bury
Hi everyone,

I have this file scanner that does some file listings and which needs to 
compare outputs with a shell dir.exe command (in windows 2003).
The shell is too slow but it is the only one that shows me which files are 
DHSM based (offline storage off the main storage).

The problem i found is that the shell based dir output works correctly but 
the runrev the files functions doesn't.

The runrev output doesn't translate correctly the diacritical characters 
such as umlauts, or other german/french style characters.

Has anyone seen this and better resolved it? Is there already a bugzilla 
for this?

For the funny part, when i ask in rev if the file is there with the 
shell's file name output, rev does recognize it but i do a comparison of 
strings between
the shell and rev's the file output, they do not match!!! Meaning that the 
files functions is not compliant with windows?

The shell's codepage is 850 in case anyone wondered. Is there anyway to 
change the codepage of rev's output?

Thanks in advance for any help

Regards,
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Re: the files functions doesn't work correctly with diacritical characters

2007-06-20 Thread xavier . bury
I think i found the problem:

The font (ms sans serif) of the fields in the revVariableWatcher doesn't
show the diacriticals as expected!!!
The Tahoma font works fine... well, sometimes...

set the directory to fld path
put the files into fld log  -- works great at least in a tahoma field.

Which doesn't explain why the filename comparisons dont work yet but the
files functions works correctly at least!

I changed all the revVariableWatcher's field to Tahoma but the shell's
output was still unreadable!

So it's the shell! But in the shell (cmd.exe) dir displays correctly !!!
;)

Next step was to change the encoding of the shell from the standard 850
western1 codes to 1252. Because i found out
meanwhile that when piped to a file dir didn't show the text as expected
(sorry rev if i blamed this on you)!!!

And with chcp 1252 it did work as expected!

But then wabam, I can't get shell to do the right thing now!

I need to tell the shell that it needs to do first a chcp 1252 and then in
the same shell call, a dir of the folder but ...

Only the first line of the shell gets evaluated it seems! This is a
serious limitation in this case... And a speed problem since
the shell can't be done in rev but needs to be sent via a start.exe then
piped out then reinjected in rev in the right chr set...

And I thought rev was easy all over! If anyone is interested in multiline
shell calls in rev let me know, i'll make a bugzilla...

cheers
Xa

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 20/06/2007 13:42:56:

 Hi everyone,

 I have this file scanner that does some file listings and which needs to

 compare outputs with a shell dir.exe command (in windows 2003).
 The shell is too slow but it is the only one that shows me which files
are
 DHSM based (offline storage off the main storage).

 The problem i found is that the shell based dir output works correctly
but
 the runrev the files functions doesn't.

 The runrev output doesn't translate correctly the diacritical characters

 such as umlauts, or other german/french style characters.

 Has anyone seen this and better resolved it? Is there already a bugzilla

 for this?

 For the funny part, when i ask in rev if the file is there with the
 shell's file name output, rev does recognize it but i do a comparison of

 strings between
 the shell and rev's the file output, they do not match!!! Meaning that
the
 files functions is not compliant with windows?

 The shell's codepage is 850 in case anyone wondered. Is there anyway to
 change the codepage of rev's output?

 Thanks in advance for any help

 Regards,
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Re: the files functions doesn't work correctly with diacritical characters

2007-06-20 Thread xavier . bury
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 20/06/2007 13:49:08:

 Isn't the output of the files urlEncoded? Maybe you knew this 
 already, but it caught me out on one occasion
 
 Mark
 

Hi Mark,

No, i knew that but that's only for the detailed files. And url decode 
doesn't work for the shell output.

Maybe what we need is a shell property that determines the codepage... 
Like the hideconsolewindows property.

The one line shell limit is easy to go around but for this case it is a 
big problem which completely halted my 
development and instead go fish elsewhere for this solution i thought rev 
could do easily...

Amazing how these stupid things add or even double the development time to 
a simple project!

Regards,
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281 installer problems

2007-06-19 Thread xavier . bury
Hi everyone,

anyone having problems with the 2.8.1 installer?

I had a previous install of 2.8 (gm1, 2, 3, 4 - all too buggy to be used) 
and decided to test the 2.8.1.

First the custom install path c:\app doesn't work.
second the default path c:\app\revolution enterprise wont work either! It 
refuses to install where the old versions is even though the folders are 
not named the same!

3rd, the installer creates not 46MBs of data as advertised but 90 MBs!

Then 4th, the app doesn't launch, when i check, the rev exe is only 32KBs! 
No wonder it didn't ask me for my license...

And when i try do redownload the thing it stalls... And resume downloading 
doesn't work either!

Naturally, the 5th time works but the old folder again is disturbing the 
install...

Finally the install works! 

Then i try the update in the help menu and it tells me GM2 is available 
(but the download is still gm1). When i try to update the engine tells me 
my license is expired! 
But my license is from 2007!!! WTF?

Can someone shed some light on this? 

Xavier



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Re: 281 installer problems

2007-06-19 Thread xavier . bury
I didn't see any announcement or read me in the download page! What's a 
newbie to expect?

At least this version now works better than 2.8! 

cheers

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19/06/2007 12:15:07:

 Hi, 
 
 In 2.8.1 annoucement it warned: 
 ..I recommend you do a full install from the downloads page rather than
 using your update button inside the program, as this version corrects a
 number of issues with the installer/uninstaller, and you will not see 
the
 benefit of this unless you do a full installation... 
 
 So I did not experienced the problems that you describe. Still there was 
one
 problem related with previous installs of SQLite. The way to fix this is
 described in quality report 5140: 
 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=5140 
 
 All the best 
 Viktoras 
 ---Original Message--- 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Date: 06/19/07 12:35:03 
 To: How to use Revolution 
 Subject: 281 installer problems 
 
 Hi everyone, 
 
 anyone having problems with the 2.8.1 installer? 
 
 I had a previous install of 2.8 (gm1, 2, 3, 4 - all too buggy to be 
used) 
 and decided to test the 2.8.1. 
 
 First the custom install path c:\app doesn't work. 
 second the default path c:\app\revolution enterprise wont work either! 
It 
 refuses to install where the old versions is even though the folders are 

 not named the same! 
 
 3rd, the installer creates not 46MBs of data as advertised but 90 MBs! 
 
 Then 4th, the app doesn't launch, when i check, the rev exe is only 
32KBs! 
 No wonder it didn't ask me for my license... 
 
 And when i try do redownload the thing it stalls... And resume 
downloading 
 doesn't work either! 
 
 Naturally, the 5th time works but the old folder again is disturbing the 

 install... 
 
 Finally the install works! 
 
 Then i try the update in the help menu and it tells me GM2 is 
available 
 (but the download is still gm1). When i try to update the engine tells 
me 
 my license is expired! 
 But my license is from 2007!!! WTF? 
 
 Can someone shed some light on this? 
 
 Xavier 
 
 



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Re: Read File at 2GB Problem

2007-05-17 Thread xavier . bury
Hi

As far as i know, win32 can handle files above 900 GBs (i've seen a zip 
file that big, imagine how big the
xml file compressed within was!)... Some video systems breakdown big files 
to make them easier to read 
and moving the viewer from chapters to chapter (but this is just a 
software limit)... 

I dont think any modern system would have such a ridiculous limit...
What is possible is that rev depends on a pointer to the file which would 
be a signed interger limited near
the size of 2GBs...

Regards,
Xavier

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 17/05/2007 11:57:39:

 I seem to remember something about most OSs not supporting file sizes 
   2GB, and that anything that appeared bigger was actually several 
 2GB files joined together.
 But my only experience of this was using iMovie some time ago, where 
 imported DV footage was automatically broken down into 2GB chunks.
 
 Ian
 
 On 17 May 2007, at 10:27, John Craig wrote:
 
  Hi, Dave.  I just tried a 4GB file with Suse Linux and it was 
  lightening fast.
  I read from position 3,221,225,472 (3GB mark).
 
  Maybe it depends on platform?
 



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Strange crash in 2.8

2007-05-14 Thread xavier . bury
Hi all,

I have an extremely weird crash situation.

I created a stack that is ultra simple (just a stack script supposed to 
run at launch after the stack is compiled for windows.).

If i compile the stack, the IDE crashes and the stack is no longuer 
openeable. If i open it the IDE just crashes.

There is no eventvwr msg, no crash log, no nothing to tell me why it does 
this...

I tried both 2.8 gm3 and gm4 and they all do the same thing... 

If I create a virgin stack, it compiles and doesn't crash. But if i 
reinject the script, wabam!

If i try to do the same in Metacard, it works flawlessly...

I reinstalled runrev and same thing...

Heather suggested i use 2.8.1 - which i only see available via the update 
menu in the help menu (any other download links i haven't seen???). 
But when i try this it says my license has expired! (It's only 3 months 
old...)

Any help would be really appreciated. 

Regards,
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Re: Strange crash in 2.8

2007-05-14 Thread xavier . bury
That explains that problem ;)

Thanks Sean!

Thanks also to Mark W. for his help with Rev crashing - it was quiting 
correctly due to a quit command after the openstack script finished - 
another problem between the keyboard and the chair =!)

Regards,
Xav

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 2.8.1 is still in testing and use a different serial number, ask Bill 
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Re:::OT : equivalent of BBEdit on Windows ?

2007-05-09 Thread xavier . bury
Hi JB

UltraEdit or Notepad++ work great...

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Re: Best graphic lib to use with Rev cgi ?

2007-05-04 Thread xavier . bury
Hi BvG,

have you looked at SvG graphics? They sound like the right stuff for a 
cgi...

http://cairographics.org seems like a good place to start. There's also 
links for 3D Graphs and stuff...
There's other non-free libs but this one is compatibile with lots of other 
languages and it's free...
And svg graphics can be exported to other formats as well (links there 
too)...

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 Ian ,
 
 Thanks for your reply.
 
 Is there any example of 3D barcharts generated with ArcadeEngine ?
 And is ArcadeEngine compatible with Rev 2.5 ?
 
 Thanks,
 JB
 
  I've no idea if it would work with Rev CGI, but ArcadeEngine does a
  nice line in 3D barcharts etc.
 
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Re: Best graphic lib to use with Rev cgi ?

2007-05-04 Thread xavier . bury
Oops, sorry, i keep confusing svg, jbv and bvg ;)
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/05/2007 14:42:59:

 Hi BvG,

 have you looked at SvG graphics? They sound like the right stuff for a
 cgi...

 http://cairographics.org seems like a good place to start. There's also
 links for 3D Graphs and stuff...
 There's other non-free libs but this one is compatibile with lots of
other
 languages and it's free...
 And svg graphics can be exported to other formats as well (links there
 too)...

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  Ian ,
 
  Thanks for your reply.
 
  Is there any example of 3D barcharts generated with ArcadeEngine ?
  And is ArcadeEngine compatible with Rev 2.5 ?
 
  Thanks,
  JB
 
   I've no idea if it would work with Rev CGI, but ArcadeEngine does a
   nice line in 3D barcharts etc.
  
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Rev 2.8 on RDP is a total disaster

2007-04-19 Thread xavier . bury
Bad habits never change. I updated to Rev  2.8 enterprise (no, actually i 
bought a new version) and I was expecting an improvement but not this!!!

After nearly 8 years, I open the new runrev IDE on a server as I used to 
with Metacard and 
behold... ALL THE GRAPHICS ARE ALL SCREWED UP AGAIN! Not ONE color is 
correct...

No this is not news!!! I've reported this problem back in 1999!

But Rev actually managed to make it worse than metacard!!!

All the icons are noised up (like a corrupted resource on a mac), text in 
the toolbar is just as bad where there is supposed to be a smooth 
shading...

Fields are all black, and since the text is black too, you must select 
text to see what it says...

Now, that was ok to paste (when copy or paste wants to work) in the 
license but when you have to edit a script it's forget it!
the whole script editor field is BLACK!

If anyone know how to work with rev in a virgin install of Rev 2.8 in a 
Win32 2003 server RDP session in 16 I would really appreciate it!!!
I cant even debug my scripts!!!

OOps, the documentation window is also all garbled up too!!! How this the 
developpers and testers manage to miss this???

Thanks in advance
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Re: Rev 2.8 on RDP is a total disaster

2007-04-19 Thread xavier . bury
things get stranger!
The console window is set to 16 bit yet the screencolors still report 
4294967296 which is 24 bit!
And the screendepth is 32!

The colorMap reports only 256 colors (all seem wrong anyway)...
And the documentation says in the comments: If the bit depth is greater 
than 8 bits, the colormap property always reports Fixed

But that is not the case

Conclusion, the rev engine is not aware of what the display depth is being 
displayed in RDP (remote desktop protocol)...

Bugzilla 1076, was reported in 2003, and more than one person consider 
this blocking...

http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=1076

Anyone know any solutions???
Switching the colordepth of the session to 8, 15, 16 or 24 bit is a 
possibility but NONE of them work properly!!! 

Thanks for any hints
Xavier 



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19/04/2007 11:33:57:

 Bad habits never change. I updated to Rev  2.8 enterprise (no, actually 
i 
 bought a new version) and I was expecting an improvement but not this!!!
 
 After nearly 8 years, I open the new runrev IDE on a server as I used to 

 with Metacard and 
 behold... ALL THE GRAPHICS ARE ALL SCREWED UP AGAIN! Not ONE color is 
 correct...
 
 No this is not news!!! I've reported this problem back in 1999!
 
 But Rev actually managed to make it worse than metacard!!!
 
 All the icons are noised up (like a corrupted resource on a mac), text 
in 
 the toolbar is just as bad where there is supposed to be a smooth 
 shading...
 
 Fields are all black, and since the text is black too, you must select 
 text to see what it says...
 
 Now, that was ok to paste (when copy or paste wants to work) in the 
 license but when you have to edit a script it's forget it!
 the whole script editor field is BLACK!
 
 If anyone know how to work with rev in a virgin install of Rev 2.8 in a 
 Win32 2003 server RDP session in 16 I would really appreciate it!!!
 I cant even debug my scripts!!!
 
 OOps, the documentation window is also all garbled up too!!! How this 
the 
 developpers and testers manage to miss this???
 
 Thanks in advance
 Xav
 
 
 

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Re:::I wish we had a do ... repeat statement!!!

2007-04-18 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Dave,

The repeat statement you want is the same as

repeat
  do stuff
  if x  0 then exit repeat
end repeat

or am I missing something obvious?

Regards,
-=-
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 18/04/2007 12:02:26:

 Hi,
 
 I've just finished coding one of the most complicated multiple loops 
 I've ever had to do! I must say that the amount of code that I had to 
 write could have been cut down quite a lot if RunRev had a do this 
 repeat while statement.
 
 In C the syntax is:
 
 while (x  0)
 {
 do these statements
 }
 
 Which in RunRev is roughly equivalent to:
 
 repeat while x  0
 do these statements
 end repeat
 
 But C also has this structure:
 
 do
 {
 do these statements
 }
 while (x  0)
 
 which AFAIK doesn't have a RunRev equivalent.
 
 Would be so nice to have something like:
 
 
 dorepeat
 
 do these statements
 
 dorepeat while x  0
 
 So whatever syntax works better!
 
 All the Best
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Re: Using Shell to copy files

2007-04-12 Thread xavier . bury
Hi

If you are not a domain or authentified user, you can always map to the 
ipc$ of the server you dont 
have access too.

net use \\myserver\ipc$ /user:myserver\userid mypassword

Then the UNC paths shouldn't pose any more problems for any copy program.

I would rather use a shell copy than a vbs. The reporting is better, the 
copy is faster and there's more
options than you can imagine. www.xxcopy.com for example has more 
documentation than rev ;) Just kidding!

cheers
Xavier


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/04/2007 10:15:03:

 Thanks roger ... The vbScripts are the way forward!
 Cheers
 Nic
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 Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 3:25 PM
 Subject: Re: Using Shell to copy files
 
 
  On 04/04/2007 at 09:04 AM, Nic Prioleau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Ok, I have found the problem but not the solution... Perhaps you may 
have
  an
  idea...
 
  The server from which I am copying is asking for a username  
password to
 
  gain access. Is there a way to pass the username and password?
 
  Thanks again...
  Nic
 
  I have encountered similar situations. What I do (since I don't know 
how 
  to
  pass authentication inside a UNC path) is run a VBscript via shell 
when 
  the
  application starts. This VBscript will map the network share to a 
drive
  letter. Once that is done, you can either access the remote server by 
  drive
  letter or UNC path designation. Such VBscripts are easily found in a 
  google
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Re: Regarding RunTime Revolution

2007-04-11 Thread xavier . bury
hi David,

here's a little script for your button

on mouseup theMouseParam
  if theMouseParam is 1 then
answer You clicked the left button
  else
exit mouseup
  end if
end mouseup

As for the task manager, no, you can't make an app invisible. You can hide 
it from the taskbar by
setting the stack's decorations to empty only...

Regards,
Xavier

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 Will Someone please Tell me how to make A  button i created in one of my
 applications  in run-time revolution only click on The left button 
 of the mouse, it 
 clicks on all three buttons of the mouse i don't like that. I have 
Searched 
 And Look  on line in The Documentations A everything to figure this 
 out. And I 
 can find  it. Please help. Thanks.
And another Thing, Is it possible to keep an application that is 
 running to not show up in the Task Manager of windows. so that it 
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RE: Bkgnd process that returns immediately

2007-03-18 Thread xavier . bury
1 - use start /b to hide the window. See start /? for more options
2 - you'd have to kill the process - or check start /? for more 
options...
3 - yes as many as you want.

cheers
Xavier

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 18/03/2007 14:56:20:

 Xavier: 
 
 Thanks for the additional info on the redirect technique.  I have
 adapted it to the following
 
  put start /MAX C:\foo.html  C:\foo.txt into MyCom 
  set the hideConsoleWindows to true 
  get  start cmd /c   quote  MyCom  quote 
  get shell(it) 
 
 and have further questions...
 
 -1-
 This does seem to open foo.html without blocking.  However, the console
 window flashes despite setting hideConsoleWindows to true. Do you have
 that same behavior?  Is this due to the redirect, or is there something
 else I can include to keep the console window invisible.
 
 -2-
 Suppose I wanted to close the window foo.html via shell.  What would the
 text be on the first line before ?
 
 -3-
 Can I put multiple lines into mycommand so that shell will run commands
 in sequence?
 
 Thanks very much.
 
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Re: Bkgnd process that returns immediately

2007-03-16 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Mark,

I just dont use the ampersand and it works like a charm...

cheers
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 16/03/2007 13:21:54:

 A 2005 thread (from Brian, Xavier, Chipp, et. al) talked about
 re-direction to achieve a non-blocking shell call, using 
 
  get shell(mycommand  mylogfile.log )
 
 My brain cannot get this to work.  Let's say I want Rev to start
 C:\blah.html using shell(), and then continue executing downstream Rev
 handlers.  I've tried variations of
 
  get shell(start  C:\blah.html )
 
 and
 
  get shell(start  C:\shellTemp.txt )
 
   where shellTemp.text contains 
C:\blah.html
   among other variations
 
 but nothing works.  The following 
 
   get shell(start C:\blah.html )
 
 does work, but it is blocking.
 
 I understand the ampersand performs a handoff but am ignorant of the
 overall sequence of events.  What am I doing wrong? 
 
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RE: Bkgnd process that returns immediately

2007-03-16 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Mark,

actually neither of those will do anything... you forgot to put in a 
command between start and the '' redirect command...


for example:
(diruse gets you the size of a folder for example)

get shell(diruse /m  thisshare  findstr /i sub-total)  -- retrieves 
the size of a share on a server which can take lots of time!

works but blocks ya waiting for an answer...

so what you should do is 

put diruse /m,* \\buffet\mysharename  
\\buffet\spacelogs$\diruse\bufduser20061127.log into mycommand
get  start cmd /c   quote  mycommand  quote
get shell(it) 

this will do what you want!

as simple and stupid as you think DOS can be, there's always more to learn 
and remember which may not always be so intuitive!!

cheers
Xavier

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  Xavier wrote:
  I just dont use the ampersand and it works like a charm...
 
 Which one of the literal examples works for you?
 
   get shell(start  C:\blah.html)
   get shell(start  C:\shellTemp.txt)
 
 If the second, then what is in the targeted file?
 
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More clipboard problems

2007-03-14 Thread xavier . bury
Gee, i reported this in the year 2000 to MC support, again later i filed a 
bugzilla...

Pasting a path with backslashes \\server\share-name pastes \\\name in 
metacard 2.x... 

Runrev 2.8 still gets it wrong!

Except when i copy the path from rev, then it works! But no other program 
in win32 gets it wrong other than rev!

Anyone know if this will be fixed some day in the near or far future?

//test/test2 works of course... But with the backslashes, it's just not 
windows friendly...
And all paths in Win32 use backslashes of course... And i use these paths 
all day long too!

The nightmare of copy-paste in rev continues... :(



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Re: Neat Trick!

2007-03-09 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Dave,

you can always do this too:

on mousedown
  put About  the short name of this stack into last line of me
  pass mousedown
end mousedown

This way you always have the right about menu ;)

Cheers
-=-
Xavier Bury

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/03/2007 16:36:04:

 Hi All,
 
 I was trying to make a Generic Menubar Stack, but had the old problem 
 that the text changes depending on the name of the application, e.g. 
 About thisApp,  About thatApp, About theOtherApp. Anyway, I 
 tried the following code and it worked! I hadn't realized before that 
 a parameter to a case clause can be a variable, which really makes 
 it a lot more powerful.
 
 Just thought I'd share!
 
 All the Best
 Dave
 
 ---
 --
 --  menuPick
 --
 ---
 on menuPick theItemSelected
local myMenuItemNumber
local myAboutMenuItemText
local myAboutBoxStackLongName
 
--
--  Pull out the Text for the About Box Item
--
put line -1 of the text of me into myAboutMenuItemText
delete char 1 of myAboutMenuItemText
switch theItemSelected
case myAboutMenuItemText
 
  --
  --  Go to the About Window
  --
  put ISMGetStackForService(kAppServiceAboutBox) into 
 myAboutBoxStackLongName
  if myAboutBoxStackLongName  empty then
go to stack myAboutBoxStackLongName
  end if
  break
 
case Help
  break
 
end switch
 end menuPick
 
 
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Re: move file to trash on windows

2007-03-01 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Klaus,

the only possibility you'll find is this:
http://vbnet.mvps.org/index.html?code/shell/recyclebin.htm
(source code for a xcmd provided :)

There is no vbs or dos way i know of that i could find. But there is 
alternative which
is to move files to a tempTrash folder which you can later delete... This 
removes all
limitations of the recycle bin as it is just another folder...

Regards,
-=-
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/03/2007 13:28:04:

 Hi friends,
 
 anyone knows of a simple way to move a file to the trash with Rev on 
 windows?
 
 Executing a VBS script is not an option.
 Using shell(del...) immediately removes the file like delete 
 file... in Rev does.
 
 I know there is a folder DRIVELETTER:/RECYCLER but there is another 
 folder in it and I am not
 sure if simply moving files to the first of these subfolder(s?) will 
 do what I want:
 rename file XYZ to DRIVELETTER:/RECYCLER/(line 1 of the subfolder 
 (s?) of RECYCLER)
 ???
 
 Looks like there is no specialfolderpath for the trash.
 
 Any hints are very welcome!
 
 
 Regards
 
 Klaus Major
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Re: move file to trash on windows

2007-03-01 Thread xavier . bury
Hallo du!

All is well, though under immense pressure which MetaCard is relieving in 
half! ;)

Le travail c'est la sante, ne rien faire c'est la garder ;)

I decided to renew my Metacard license with the new 2.8 enterprise engine 
and haven't had 
the time to test it even! ;)

cheerios!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/03/2007 15:05:21:

 Bonjour mon ami, ca va bien?
 
  Hi Klaus,
 
  the only possibility you'll find is this:
  http://vbnet.mvps.org/index.html?code/shell/recyclebin.htm
  (source code for a xcmd provided :)
 
  There is no vbs or dos way i know of that i could find. But there is
  alternative which
  is to move files to a tempTrash folder which you can later 
  delete... This
  removes all
  limitations of the recycle bin as it is just another folder...
 
 Ah, yes, I saw this (md C:\Trash etc...) when seraching the net for 
 a solution.
 But I'm afraid this will not work for our project.
 
 Thanks a lot anyway :-)
 
  Regards,
  -=-
  Xavier Bury
 
 Regards
 
 Klaus Major
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.major-k.de
 
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Re: # POSSIBLY SPAM #::Anybody have any examples of reading the Windows Registry

2006-02-17 Thread xavier . bury
Jon

look at the rev help for registry

The only thing you can't do is list a registry's sub-items but if you have 
the full path to the node you need
it's pretty easy.

GetRegistry?

no... it couldnt' be that simple...

look for

QueryRegistry

and 

SetRegistry
DeleteRegistry etc...

cheers
Xavier

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 I need to be able to read the windows Registry using rev, to check 
 the serial number of a USB device...anybody ever done anything like 
 this, have any examples of any registry calls...?
 
 Thanks,
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Re::Anybody have any examples of reading the Windows Registry

2006-02-17 Thread xavier . bury
Jon

I can't give you the path to your USB info in the registry as this a 
user/type/vendor/keys/params/format
dependent path/info.

However, if you type windows registry in your search engine, you'll find 
more than anyone can swallow!
Dont be scared...

look for the links pointing to either technet or support.microsoft.com 
where they provide ample information
on all the hierarchies you need to know. 

for example:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/256986/EN-US/

Also if you type Regedit in the run... of your start menu, you can browse 
it easily like a file explorer.

BEWARE of changing stuff in the registry you can really bust the OS if not 
done carefully...

cheers
Xavier



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 17/02/2006 09:35:24:

 Thanks,
 
 You wouldnt happen to have any examples of windows registry calls, I am 
a 
 mac guy buy defenition so know little about the paths that I am trying 
to 
 call...All I know in this last minute issue is that I have to verify a 
USB 
 keys serial number on windows, and the way I have been asked to do it is 
by 
 calling the windows registry...being that I want to get back to Java and 
my 
 Mac, I thought I would see if I could pilfer some good ol Rev code, 
rather 
 than learn the dirty little secrets of windows...
 
 Thanks,
 jon
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 Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:28 AM
 Subject: Re: # POSSIBLY SPAM #::Anybody have any examples of reading the 

 Windows Registry
 
 
  Jon
 
  look at the rev help for registry
 
  The only thing you can't do is list a registry's sub-items but if you 
have
  the full path to the node you need
  it's pretty easy.
 
  GetRegistry?
 
  no... it couldnt' be that simple...
 
  look for
 
  QueryRegistry
 
  and
 
  SetRegistry
  DeleteRegistry etc...
 
  cheers
  Xavier
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 17/02/2006 09:22:56:
 
  I need to be able to read the windows Registry using rev, to check
  the serial number of a USB device...anybody ever done anything like
  this, have any examples of any registry calls...?
 
  Thanks,
  Jon
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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 - 2.7

2006-02-17 Thread xavier . bury
They dont use my - they use 'i'... Which is a bit egocentrical if not 
narcissist IMOHO ;)

just for the humor of it!!! ;)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 17/02/2005 10:59:55:

 Apple does not use and never used such a suffix.
 Fortunately :-)
 
 Le 17 févr. 06 à 10:55, Mark Smith a écrit :
 
  Couldn't agree more. I don't know where this awful 'my' suffix came 
  from (MSoft? Apple?), but it makes everything sound like My Little 
  Pony
 
  Mark
 
  On 17 Feb 2006, at 09:11, Martin Baxter wrote:
 
  J. Landman Gay wrote:
  If it does not already exist, create a folder in your Documents 
  folder called My Revolution [edition]. That is, if you have the 
  Enterprise
 
  I'm not at all sure I could bring myself to name a folder 
  beginning with the word my. Every nerve twitches at the thought. 
  I already have a serious problem with My Computer, My 
  Documents etc. To me this is like My first coloring book :-), 
  eeeuuuw. Surprise! I am not a 5 year old. Are folders whose names 
  do not begin with the word my in some way not really mine. Or is 
  this actually a dynamic scoping mechanism like in Perl?
 
  Martin Baxter
 
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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 - 2.7

2006-02-17 Thread xavier . bury
actually i should have said  In My OHO since iM on windoze... ;)



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 Don't you mean iMOHO?
 
 
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Re: Colorize script in 2.7

2006-02-16 Thread xavier . bury
dont know if it is related but on windows no prefs are saved...

Could it be the same on macs?

cheers
Xavier

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 16.02.2006 15:14:26:

 I can set the 'colorize script' while typing preference to off as 
 many times as I like, but when I open the script editor it colorizes 
 away - I go back to the prefs and see that it has reverted to being on.
 
 2.7 Studio
 Mac 10.4.4
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Re: selectedField in 2.7 not working

2006-02-16 Thread xavier . bury
i just did a basic test in 2.6 and 2.7. 

In both cases the selectedfield returns field x

what i think is happening is that on your mouseup, you unselect the 
field's selection... Which i verify...

what you need is this kind of script in your button:

local lastselection
on mouseenter
  put the selectedfield into lastselection
end mousenter

on mouseup
  put lastselection
end mouseup

im sure this will work the way you want it...
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Re: How IE Favorites and History are stored on a Windows system

2006-02-15 Thread xavier . bury
Eric

I've searched a lot...
- IE history is a hash - encrypted on first infos i got.
- Nothing that can be listed via a shell though... It's not in the 
registry on first info's either...
- It's purely user profile based and it may be hidden inside the user.dat 
file...

but i found a free ware!

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/iehv.html

hope it helps. I'll ask our win-guru tomorow...

cheers
Xavier


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 15.02.2006 15:57:13:

 Hi everyone,
 
 Even if I work on both Mac and Win, I'm rather a Mac man.
 At the moment I'm puzzled with Win :-(
 I want to retrieve all IE favorites and history from a user on XP AND 
 Win 2000.
 I found something about favorites, a .ini file as in:
 
 [InternetShortcut]
 URL= http:// www..
 WorkingDirectory=C:\
 ShowCommand=7
 IconIndex=1
 etc.
 
 But I have no idea about the internal method used for storing history?
 Sure there is someone around there who can help me :-)
 Thanks for any clue.
 
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Re: GOTO Equivalent in Rev?

2006-02-15 Thread xavier . bury
it's not good practice but for the fun of it...

function myfunction p1, p2, goto
if goto is empty then
 
  else if goto is 10 then
 return myfunction(p1, p2, 20)-- oh, a goto statement!
 else if goto is 20 then
.
.
.
.
end myfunction

cheers
Xavier


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 15.02.2006 12:58:16:

 Hi,
 
 I don't understand why you would want to use GOTO anyway, but no I 
 don't think there is an equivalent in RunRev. Instead take a look at 
 defining a function or two. Functions are much more powerful, less 
 likely to cause problems and they make the code much easier to read. 
 Here is an example
 
 function myCommonCode
 
 -- do common code here
 
 end myCommonCode
 
 
 Then in the handlers where you want to perform the common code, do:
 
 get myCommonCode()
 
 You can also pass parameters to functions and have functions return a 
 value, they work just like the functions built-in RunRev.
 
 
 Hope this helps
 Dave
 
 
 On 14 Feb 2006, at 21:24, Garrett Hylltun wrote:
 
  Is there a goto equivalent in Rev?
 
  I have a popup menu, button bar and menu bar, all of which offer 
  the same functions, cut, copy, paste etc.  I don't want to have 
  separate code for each of the related handlers.  I want the copy 
  button, copy menu entry and copy popup menu entry to all use just 
  one handler (per say).
 
  Thanks,
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Re: file association problem

2006-02-15 Thread xavier . bury
Hi 

I entered a couple bugzillas for this - one is dated may 2005 - bugzilla 
2856 for the file association (which surely works great on macs)
... and 3324 for the opening of rev+stack. 

NO, there's no solution that i found... 

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 15.02.2006 14:15:29:

 Hi,
 
   I'm using Windows XP and I have problem with the extension .rev. I
 had  an evaluation version 2.5.1 of Revolution studio and then I 
 bought a  2.7 DreamCard license. I uninstalled 2.5.1 and installed 
 2.7 but  Windows associated .rev with WinRar. I found an old post by
 Ken Ray  with the following suggestion 
 

 1) Change the 'HKCR\.rev' default value to Revolution instead of
 WinRAR.REV.
 
 2) Create a subkey under HKCR for 'Revolution', then a subkey under
 'Revolution' for 'shell', then a subkey under 'shell' for 'open', then
 finally a subkey under 'open' called 'command', and then set the value 
of
 the 'HKCR\Revolution\shell\open\command' key to the path to Revolution, 
like
 this:
 
C:\Program Files\Revolution 2.6.1\revolution.exe %1
 
 Then close the Registry. At this point, the .rev files will still show 
the
 RAR icons, but 2x-clicking on them will launch Rev. If you log out and 
log
 back in again (or reboot your PC), the icons will now display as Rev 
icons.
 
 I followed this exactly and only changed the path above to
 C:\program files\Revolution Dreamcard\2.7.0-gm-1\Revolution.exe %1
 
 When I double click on a stack for instance Simple Calculator.rev 
 which is one of the sample files that comes with DreamCard
 then Revoution starts up but it doesn't open the stack Simple 
 Calculator.rev. Instead I have to go to file menu and choose
 an Open Stack ... to get it to work.
 
 Has anybody encountered this problem and what is the remedy?
 
 
 
 
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Re: RevZilla Reminder re: 2.7 Release

2006-02-15 Thread xavier . bury
Ken,

There is no option button on PCs...

But when i do alt-clik it retrieves 204 instead of 213 bugzillas so maybe 
there's another issue ;)

cheers
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 15.02.2006 17:01:48:

 On 2/15/06 12:32 AM, MisterX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi Ken
  
  For those of you who have used RevZilla, keep in mind that
  with version 2.7 now out, you will have that choice
  automatically in the Version popup of the Post a Bug
  screen, but it will not default to 2.7 unless you go to the
  Options tab and change the value in the Default Version
  field to 2.7.
  
  I was amazed at this feature.
  
  Also, check the bugs you've voted on (go to the Voting tab
  and click Show Items I Have Voted On). If any of the bugs
  you voted on have been closed, resolved, or verified, you'll
  get a dialog box letting you know that. Click Yes to see
  them in the list. Click the State column to sort by the
  state of the bug, and then for each bug marked RESO or
  CLOS, select the bug and choose Remove My Votes From This
  Item in the action menu in the lower-left corner of the
  window. This will allow you to recover your votes and
  re-apply them to new bugs. :-)
  
  but I can't get my fixed bugs listed in my bugs.
 
 If you hold down the option key, the button Get My Bugs changes to 
Get
 All of My Bugs and will retrieve any bugs you submitted, regardless of
 whether they were fixed or not.
 
  my voted bugs tells me I have fixed bugs and when I tell it that I 
want to
  see them, I never see them!
 
 Is it possible that you have fixed bugs but that you didn't actually 
vote
 for them? If so, then you wouldn't see them on the Voting tab (although 
you
 might get the erroneous dialog telling you you have fixed bugs).
 
  in bugzilla I have 18 bugs, in revzilla only 13 show up...
 
 Try option-clicking on the Get My Bugs button. ;-)
 
  REOP is not shown... Granted in bugzilla when I voted and removed my 
bugs
  they still show up in my bug list which RevZilla doesn't.
 
 Try option-clicking on the Get My Bugs button.  :-)
 
  And then for my buglist, I can't see ALL my bugs (fixed for example) 
to
  reopen one or the other...
 
 Try option-clicking on the Get My Bugs button.  :-D
 
 
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Re: 2.7 save as

2006-02-15 Thread xavier . bury
i've seen this happen also on 2.6... I can confirm now...

It has to do with a suspend resume message not handle correctly somewhere 
in the rev menubar i think.

cheers
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 I've had several occasions on which Rev 2.7 on Win XP loses its 
 Save as... function. Save continues to operate OK and re-start 
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Re: Revolution RUMORS!

2006-02-13 Thread xavier . bury
any rumors on when their site is back? the in a few hours has kind of 
expired =)

Is there really an update coming?

So far most older or newer bugzillas have been untouched...  So im 
skeptical but i love surprises...

Common, any real rumors people?

cheers
Xavier

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 13/02/2006 14:37:00:

 
 Le 13 févr. 06 à 14:11, Charles Hartman a écrit :
 
 
  On Feb 13, 2006, at 12:45 AM, Scott Kane wrote:
 
  By-By DreamCard?
 
  Is there really a market for it anyway?  I mean, apart from
  education most people want to compile binaries...
 
 
 I repectly don't agree at all with that, at least in about web- 
 enabled application's development. Just have an eye to most of the 
 leading technologies used to turn the web development in a powerfull 
 and rock-solid usable way so see that Rev is in the right way with, 
 perhaps, five to ten years forwards advance...
 
 PHP, Javascript, AJAX, Ruby, Python, Plone-Zope, etc... are great to 
 zap the Java dynosorus from a design point of view. Rev applications 
 servers are just not enough knowed to be able to let us code great 
 apps in a more suitable way than the upon named script-based 
 environments.
 
 Thanks RunRev,
 
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Re: IDE Bug - Sudden Loss of Keyboard Copy

2006-02-13 Thread xavier . bury
Hi

use control-ins to copy and ins to paste - they dont use the (senile) 
menus and work 92% of the time ;)
ins = insert key above delete key right of teh backspace key.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 13/02/2006 15:36:41:

 Using Revolution 2.6.1 on Win XP. All has been well and now 
 inexplicably when trying to copy text
 from a field it simply fails to copy to the clipboard when using 
 control c. The copy function
 still works fine from the menubar and paste also works in both 
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Re: Extracting Images from a http:// page

2006-02-10 Thread xavier . bury
Hi David

It's quite simple:

put url thisurl into mydata

repeat while img is in mydata
  put offset(img, mydata) into a
  put offset(,mydate, a) into b
  if b  1 then exit repeat
  add a to b
  put char a to b of mydata  CR after urlList
  delete char 1 to b of mydata
end repeat

this should fit any purpose - including where image tags are broken across 
multiple lines

cheers
Xavier

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10.02.2006 12:45:30:

 Hi,
 
 I am trying to extract all images from a http:// page. I have never 
 worked with http: in RunRev before and was wondering if anyone had 
 any suggestions or a sample stack on how to do this?
 
 Thanks a lot
 All the Best
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Re: Extracting Images from a http:// page

2006-02-10 Thread xavier . bury
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10.02.2006 13:36:41:

 Hi Xavier,
 
 That's great! This allows me to extract the list of images, in the form:
 
 img src=images/JRG9.jpg width='100' height='100'  border=0
 
 How can I now display the image at this URL in an Image Object?
 
 I've tried things like:
 
 set the imageSource of image 1 to full_url/images/JRG9.jpg

set the filename of img 1 to thisurl should work... As a referenced 
image...

 and
 
 put url full_url/images/JRG9.jpg into image 1

put url (binfile:  fullurl) into image 1

 and
 
 set the imageData of image 1 to url  full_url/images/JRG9.jpg

again, use the binfile url format...

 
 Thanks a lot
 Dave
 
 On 10 Feb 2006, at 12:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi David
 
  It's quite simple:
 
  put url thisurl into mydata
 
  repeat while img is in mydata
put offset(img, mydata) into a
put offset(,mydate, a) into b
if b  1 then exit repeat
add a to b
put char a to b of mydata  CR after urlList
delete char 1 to b of mydata
  end repeat
 
  this should fit any purpose - including where image tags are broken 
  across
  multiple lines
 
  cheers
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Re: Extracting Images from a http:// page

2006-02-10 Thread xavier . bury
  --set the imageData of image 1 to  url  binfile:  myImagePath

should be

  --set the imageData of image 1 to  url  (binfile:  myImagePath)
 
the parenthesis are important...

i tried this which worked quite well

put url (http://.;) into img 1 and that worked...

sorry for inducing the binfile error ;)

cheers
Xavier


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10.02.2006 14:42:40:

 Hi Again,
 
 Thanks a lot that worked just fine! The extract below reads thru the 
 URL list and flashes each image in an Image Object. However, I can't 
 seem to set the imageData, only the fileName. I don't want to hold 
 the image as a reference, but rather I want to import the image into 
 the stack. Is this possible? Uncomment the set the imageData line 
 below and comment the set fileName line, I just get a blank image.
 
 
put myURLList into field 1
 
repeat for each line myImageLine in myURLList
  put offset(src=  quote,myImageLine) into myFromOffset
  add 5 to myFromOffset
 
  put offset(quote,myImageLine,myFromOffset) into myToOffset
  put myFromOffset + myToOffset - 1 into myToOffset
  put char myFromOffset to myToOffset of myImageLine into myImagePath
 
  put myURLBase  myImagePath into myImagePath
  --set the imageData of image 1 to  url  binfile:  myImagePath
  set the fileName of image 1 to  url  binfile:  myImagePath
  wait for 0.5 seconds
end repeat
 
 Any ideas???
 
 Thanks a lot
 All the Best
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Re: That XP menu feel

2006-02-09 Thread xavier . bury
Richard

it works but you have to use a stackmenu with a card script that detects 
the altkey down - even with the menu down...

Unfortunately (and heck if im not surprised!) the  character is not 
translated to the mnemonic !

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 I've been exploring ways to use frontScripts to get the traditional XP 
 feel with menus, such that the mnemonics for menus are not drawn 
 underlined until the Alt key is down, and the underlines go away when 
 the Alt key is released.
 
 So far, no go.
 
 Anyone have a reliable method for doing this?
 
 --
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Re: OT: Archive Search

2006-02-06 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Nicolas,

Still works fine here ;)

cheers
Xavier

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/02/2006 02:49:52:

 Hello All,
 
 Is anyone else having problems
 with the Archive Search plugin?
 Suddenly, all search results
 are returning empty. I've tried
 fiddling with the preferences 
 and with all the various
 settings, but no luck.
 
 Archive Search is so indispensable
 for my newbie questions that I
 think I'm starting to suffer
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Re: relayering groups within groups

2006-02-01 Thread xavier . bury
Terry,

it's hard to see from here...

waht you could do is work with a reference to the owner of the group being 
dragged.

Extract the group to the visible top layer (or hide the cloned group, 
clone it again on top above all else)
once the drag finished, put it back in to the old owner

Would that work?
cheers
Xavier


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/02/2006 11:04:16:

 Hi Xavier -  the object I want to relayer is is a clone of a subgroup 
 of the parent group. When it's created it automatically belongs to the 
 parent group (so far so good). The relayering comes about because I 
 need to drag (any of) the subgroups about and the target group needs to 
 be brought forward so that isn't lost behind other subgroups during the 
 drag. The parent group contains both individual controls and groups and 
 so far the only thing I've been able to get even vaguely working is to 
 have one or more individual controls at the 'bottom' of the group and 
 set the layer of all subgroups to the layer of the topmost of these 
 'bottom' individual controls in a repeat loop making sure the target 
 subgoup is 'relayered' first.
 
 Seems like a horrible hack to me.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Terry...
 
  From: Terry Judd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 1 February 2006 8:52:05 PM GMT+11:00
  To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
  Subject: Re: relayering groups within groups
 
  Terry,
 
  before you change the object to a group, verify that the owner of that 

  group
  is the one where you want to insert it.
 
  I do this usually with a repeat for x = 1 to the number of group in
  group/card
 
if the owner of group x is the group I want or the layer  
  group/card and
   than group x+1 of group/card then
 that's where it goes...
 
  the super groups have a layer  sub groups. And anything in that group 

  is 
  than any other super group after...
 
  hope that helps...
 
  cheers
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   Terry Judd
   Sent: Wednesday, 01 February, 2006 06:10
   To: use-revolution at lists.runrev.com
   Subject: relayering groups within groups?
  
   I'm having real trouble trying to change the layer of a group
   within a group without it either 'breaking free' from it's
   parent group (to be owned by the card) or somehow joining
   with another 'sub' group that belongs to the parent group.
  
   I've got the relayerGroupedControls set to true and I've
   tried setting the layer of the sub-group I want to bring to
   the front of the group to both the number of controls and
   the number of controls - the number of controls of the sub
   group (and various other incantations) none of which seem to
   have the desired effect.
  
   Has anyone seen or solved this problem before? I can provide
   more details on what I'm trying to achieve if needed.
  
   Thanks in advance,
  
   Terry...
  
   Dr Terry Judd
   Lecturer in Educational Technology (Design) Biomedical
   Multimedia Unit Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry  Health
   Sciences The University of Melbourne Parkville VIC 3052 AUSTRALIA
  
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Re: standalone application(.exe file) not getting closed in the task manager

2006-02-01 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Nitesh

What happens is that you close the stack but not the executable... like 
closing a document but not the app...

what you need is a closestackrequest handler in your stack. 

something like this...

on closestackrequest 
  quit
end closestackrequest 

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/02/2006 14:49:36:

 Hi!!!
 
 i have developed a stack which is calling and then running another stack
 from the server.
 now when i am saving this is as a standalone application, even after
 closing the main stack window in the .exe file
 it keeps on running in the task manager.
 
 can anybody know how to solve this problem??
 i mean how to close the .exe process when stack is itself closed
 
 and 1 more thing if i just open the .exe file nd close it without doing
 anything
 then the .exe file is automatically removed from task manager..
 
 regards
 Nitesh
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Re: # POSSIBLY SPAM #::Placards

2006-01-29 Thread xavier . bury
Richard,

what is hard to do there? The transparent menu or ?

cheers
Xavier

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 30/01/2006 00:26:07:

 I need to add a placard to a window, a la:
 http://developer.apple.
 
com/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/OSXHIGuidelines/XHIGControls/chapter_18_section_3.
 html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP3359-TPXREF136
 
 Anyone know of a special combination of properties to get that behavior, 

 or am I rolling my own?
 
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Re: Images

2006-01-27 Thread xavier . bury
Scott

all you need to do in your last line is 

set the imagedata of image myImage to (url (binfile: imagePath)

cheers
Xavier

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 27/01/2006 11:16:40:

 Hi,
 
 I'm needing to load an image into a
 card and then save that with the card
 (the actual image and not the file 
 name reference to it).  I tried the
 code below.  It almost works, but I get
 a black and white image when the last
 line is run in the procedure.
 
 
 --  Paste ---
   answer file Select the image:
 set the filename of image myImage to it
   set the left of image myImage to the left of me
   set the top of image myImage to the top of me
   set the rect of image myImage to the rect of me
   set the imageData of image myImage to the Imagedata of image
 HerpImage
 
 ---End Paste -
 
 I've tried various other methods with
 no success and the doc's don't seem to
 cover it well.  Any suggestions greatly
 appreciated.
 
 Scott
 
 
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