Re: [ANN] tRev Magic Menus: contextual, mouse-free menus
On 11/04/2010 05:39, Peter Alcibiades wrote: On the basis that maybe it could be something about all three of the systems it occurred on today, which admittedly are all running Debian, though with very different installation and use histories, I moved Rev to Slitaz running in Sun's non-free Virtual Box on one of them, and did the same thing, and got just about the same result. This time it was a freeze which the only way out of was to shutdown the session in X windows by force. Now this is a barebones install of Slitaz, which is itself just about as as bare as you can get, the only thing it has on it, apart from the base system, is Rev Studio gm1, 4.0.0, build 950, ligthpttd, user space NFS. It does not even have CUPS or printing or Office installed. It uses PCManFM and Open Box, whereas on my real system its Thunar and Fluxbox, and on the ones in the office they are on Gnome with Nautilus. So, what are we going to suggest next? Is it the wrong kind of code? Is there something about the way I've written my app that can cause the IDE editor to crash during cut and paste? Is that really possible? It's entirely possible; I'm a dab hand at writing bad code, I don't know why you shouldn't be as well . . . :) Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] tRev Magic Menus: contextual, mouse-free menus
On 10/04/2010 23:52, Peter Alcibiades wrote: Here is the recipe. Open a stack with plenty of buttons and scripts. Now open any script in the editor. Use the property inspector to get the properties of a given field Select and copy the name of the field Paste it into the script. I think I used middle click, but think I have also used control-v in the past. It should freeze, flickering rapidly. Then when you close the window of the editor, the whole IDE crashes. Awfully sorry to disappoint you: I opened an earlier recension of my Devawriter stack (buckets of buttons, buckets of scripts) and did as you suggested - everything worked properly: RunRev 4.0 Ubuntu 10.04 Beta 2 I just did it, 30 seconds ago on this machine, and as expected, it happened. I did it a couple times this afternoon on a different computer when I just forgot that it was going to happen - I was working on redoing the application so as to eliminate the need to use print card, and needed to take the name of the fields into the script, so as to put the contents of them into a variable and then put this variable into a text file. Which, after manually reformatting it in rtf, I will then be able to open in a word processor and print in acceptable format. What a totally insane thing to be forced to be doing in the first place, but that is by the way. I have also had on earlier versions extreme slowdowns of the editor, where the cursor took a half second or so to move from one position in the line to another. Or typed characters showed up only after about a half second delay. This is a complete farce. Yes it is; however the reason for this particular farce may lie outwith the RunRev folks' lab in Edinburgh. I'm an amateur, I don't charge, and I'd never let stuff at this crap level of quality out the door. Do they do any testing at all? Now that is almost up to my standard of aggression: it will only give you heart palpitations; so stop. Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] tRev Magic Menus: contextual, mouse-free menus
On 11/04/2010 01:52, Richard Gaskin wrote: Peter Alcibiades wrote: Here is the recipe. Open a stack with plenty of buttons and scripts. Now open any script in the editor. Use the property inspector to get the properties of a given field Select and copy the name of the field Paste it into the script. I think I used middle click, but think I have also used control-v in the past. It should freeze, flickering rapidly. Then when you close the window of the editor, the whole IDE crashes. I just followed that recipe to the letter, using Rev v4.0 on Ubuntu 9.10/Gnome 2.28.1. To test I used a copy of my WebMerge stack, with just under 300 objects on its card. The script I used was the main processing engine for the app, more than 4600 lines worth. Worked a treat. So I kept trying, copying text from the Inspector, elsewhere in the script, pasting all over the place, drag-n-drop -- all worked fine. I don't know enough about either your system or Rev to guess where the problem lies, but here I can't reproduce it on Ubuntu. --- I'm off for a walk on the hills today [Not a bad idea for Peter as well judging by things . . . :) ], and will try to reproduce this this evening. As I have previously stated; my only 'grunts' about RunRev for linux relate to fonts, and to a lesser extent, printing. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN] tRev Magic Menus: contextual, mouse-free menus
Script and object editor oriented folk: We have a marvelous video of Build 319 of tRev for you today: http://reveditor.com/magic-menus-look-ma-no-hands It shows how the new tRev Magic Menus work. Some details... New Magic Menu: - We needed a pop up menu for tRev lists and code that could be 100% keyboard initiated and controlled. - Right-click anywhere in a stacks, cards, clips, controls or handlers list and a magic menu will show. - The source code field also displays a magic menu with the right-click. - Type cmd+shift+m to make the magic menu appear/disappear without a mouse/trackpad. - Selection from the magic menu does what its name indicates. - Magic menu remembers what you last did in any magic menu. - Once open, magic menu can be operated with arrow keys to change selection and return to accept a choice. - Once open magic menu can be run using Quick Keys - Escape key will close magic menu without making a choice. Colorize while typing enhancements: - when you drag and drop text within the source code field, it now colorizes the dropped text. - when you type a matched quote within an unmatched parenthesis, the colorization works properly. General enhancements - home, end, page up and page down keys now passed to Revolution for handling. - the handler list selection will change to reflect the new selections in the code field when you do the following: + do a find from the find pane + type command+up/down arrow + type the home, end, page up, page down keys on extended keyboards - when in Rev and property inspector is in front, type escape to dismiss it Windows: - Always start tRev first. - Make certain the Rev IDE user extensions preference points to My Revolution Enterprise (use appropriate license type) Best, Jerry Daniels Use tRev's buy link during your 7 day free trial to get 20% off: http://reveditor.com/tag/shouldiswitch ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] tRev Magic Menus: contextual, mouse-free menus
Meanwhile, on Planet Linux, we do not even have one editor that works. That's right folks, the built in editor, if you do cut and paste with it, freezes. You then close it down, and it crashes the IDE along with it, so you lose all unsaved work. How hard is it to make an editor that does cut and paste without freezing? I do not know of one editor that freezes while doing cut and paste. I should think you would have to go out of your way to write one that DOES freeze. This post is not about editors, this post is about respect. -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/ANN-tRev-Magic-Menus-contextual-mouse-free-menus-tp1835546p1835623.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] tRev Magic Menus: contextual, mouse-free menus
Peter Alcibiades wrote: Meanwhile, on Planet Linux, we do not even have one editor that works. That's right folks, the built in editor, if you do cut and paste with it, freezes. You then close it down, and it crashes the IDE along with it, so you lose all unsaved work. On Planet Ubuntu 9.10, I just opened Rev, made a stack, opened its script, typed some text, cut it, pasted it, copied it, pasted it -- all good. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] tRev Magic Menus: contextual, mouse-free menus
Here is the recipe. Open a stack with plenty of buttons and scripts. Now open any script in the editor. Use the property inspector to get the properties of a given field Select and copy the name of the field Paste it into the script. I think I used middle click, but think I have also used control-v in the past. It should freeze, flickering rapidly. Then when you close the window of the editor, the whole IDE crashes. I just did it, 30 seconds ago on this machine, and as expected, it happened. I did it a couple times this afternoon on a different computer when I just forgot that it was going to happen - I was working on redoing the application so as to eliminate the need to use print card, and needed to take the name of the fields into the script, so as to put the contents of them into a variable and then put this variable into a text file. Which, after manually reformatting it in rtf, I will then be able to open in a word processor and print in acceptable format. What a totally insane thing to be forced to be doing in the first place, but that is by the way. I have also had on earlier versions extreme slowdowns of the editor, where the cursor took a half second or so to move from one position in the line to another. Or typed characters showed up only after about a half second delay. This is a complete farce. I'm an amateur, I don't charge, and I'd never let stuff at this crap level of quality out the door. Do they do any testing at all? Peter -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/ANN-tRev-Magic-Menus-contextual-mouse-free-menus-tp1835546p1835657.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] tRev Magic Menus: contextual, mouse-free menus
Peter Alcibiades wrote: Here is the recipe. Open a stack with plenty of buttons and scripts. Now open any script in the editor. Use the property inspector to get the properties of a given field Select and copy the name of the field Paste it into the script. I think I used middle click, but think I have also used control-v in the past. It should freeze, flickering rapidly. Then when you close the window of the editor, the whole IDE crashes. I just followed that recipe to the letter, using Rev v4.0 on Ubuntu 9.10/Gnome 2.28.1. To test I used a copy of my WebMerge stack, with just under 300 objects on its card. The script I used was the main processing engine for the app, more than 4600 lines worth. Worked a treat. So I kept trying, copying text from the Inspector, elsewhere in the script, pasting all over the place, drag-n-drop -- all worked fine. I don't know enough about either your system or Rev to guess where the problem lies, but here I can't reproduce it on Ubuntu. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] tRev Magic Menus: contextual, mouse-free menus
On the basis that maybe it could be something about all three of the systems it occurred on today, which admittedly are all running Debian, though with very different installation and use histories, I moved Rev to Slitaz running in Sun's non-free Virtual Box on one of them, and did the same thing, and got just about the same result. This time it was a freeze which the only way out of was to shutdown the session in X windows by force. Now this is a barebones install of Slitaz, which is itself just about as as bare as you can get, the only thing it has on it, apart from the base system, is Rev Studio gm1, 4.0.0, build 950, ligthpttd, user space NFS. It does not even have CUPS or printing or Office installed. It uses PCManFM and Open Box, whereas on my real system its Thunar and Fluxbox, and on the ones in the office they are on Gnome with Nautilus. So, what are we going to suggest next? Is it the wrong kind of code? Is there something about the way I've written my app that can cause the IDE editor to crash during cut and paste? Is that really possible? Peter -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/ANN-tRev-Magic-Menus-contextual-mouse-free-menus-tp1835546p1835764.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] tRev Magic Menus: contextual, mouse-free menus
And in case anyone wonders, do I have the latest version, yes. At least, that is what check for updates says. -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/ANN-tRev-Magic-Menus-contextual-mouse-free-menus-tp1835546p1835767.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] tRev Magic Menus: contextual, mouse-free menus
Changing the subject of this post would not hurt my feelings, since very comment to it is about problems with the Linux version of Revolution's script editor. Best, Jerry Daniels Use tRev's buy link during your free trial to get 20% off: http://reveditor.com/tag/shouldiswitch On Apr 10, 2010, at 9:39 PM, Peter Alcibiades palcibiades-fi...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On the basis that maybe it could be something about all three of the systems it occurred on today, which admittedly are all running Debian, though with very different installation and use histories, I moved Rev to Slitaz running in Sun's non-free Virtual Box on one of them, and did the same thing, and got just about the same result. This time it was a freeze which the only way out of was to shutdown the session in X windows by force. Now this is a barebones install of Slitaz, which is itself just about as as bare as you can get, the only thing it has on it, apart from the base system, is Rev Studio gm1, 4.0.0, build 950, ligthpttd, user space NFS. It does not even have CUPS or printing or Office installed. It uses PCManFM and Open Box, whereas on my real system its Thunar and Fluxbox, and on the ones in the office they are on Gnome with Nautilus. So, what are we going to suggest next? Is it the wrong kind of code? Is there something about the way I've written my app that can cause the IDE editor to crash during cut and paste? Is that really possible? Peter -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/ANN-tRev-Magic-Menus-contextual-mouse-free-menus-tp1835546p1835764.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
