Re: [OT] Languages and cultures (was Re: survey)
Congrats Bernard, happiness to you and yours :-D
Now, the important piece, when is the party?
Cheers!
Andre
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Bernard Devlin bdrun...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Sarah Reichelt
sarah.reich...@gmail.com wrote:
I think it is changing again. My teenage sons refer to anything they
don't like as being gay.
So a difficult assignment is gay; missing the bus is gay; a
teacher who growls at them is gay.
It doesn't have to be a person, and while it has certainly not
reverted to it's original meaning, it is losing it's homosexual
connotations. But maybe that is just here in Australia.
Not just limited to Australia, I've heard that usage on South Park for
years. I've no idea if South Park was creating or following a trend.
Clearly we've now lost the use of that charming little word. Although
in all truth, I think homos had been feeling 'gay' was a rather 70s
word and was now as unfashionable as flared corduroy trousers. (Hang
on, I think they came back in and went out again a few years ago...)
Anyway, homos have got a variety of other epithets (hostile and/or
clinical) by which they can described. Now that the majority of
people describe themselves as 'straight' or 'heterosexual', we are in
a different world from the late 1960s when gay people (along with
black people) started to declare terms they wanted the majority to use
to describe these minorities. I still have some old manifestos of the
Gay Liberation Front -- they are hilarious. But I think the world I
grew up in was already quite different from the world where those were
written.
Back then straight people would describe themselves as normal i.e.
they didn't have a term for themselves. There's even videos from the
1980s of people being interviewed on the streets of London, and when
asked are you heterosexual they would reply no, I'm married.
Since then we've had metrosexuals, transexuals ('men giving birth'?),
gay coming to mean 'naff''. I doubt there's anyone left in the UK who
doesn't know the difference between heterosexual/homosexual.
Personally I've always thought queer was suitable for gay people --
I've always found people who wanted to be normal to be rather creepy.
Being oneself I can understand, but suppressing individuality to go
with the crowd seems to reduce us to sheep. Mind you, queer would
then become an inclusive term that meant 'those who resist being
normalized'. I'm sure there's more than a few people on this list who
would describe themselves as 'queer'.
Having married a man recently, I certainly feel less than outré than
in my youth.
Bernard
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On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Congrats Bernard, happiness to you and yours :-D Now, the important piece, when is the party? Cheers! Andre Thanks Andre (and to Richmond, also). It's over 2 years ago since we got 'married', and we just had a very quiet celebration afterwards. I'm not someone who likes to draw attention to myself, even on a momentous occasion. We're not allowed to call it 'marriage' as that would have offended any number of religious minorities (yes, even christians are a religious minority here). Still, I found the day far more moving and significant than I expected it to be. It's very nice to see that other people who are so far away and were not at all involved with it, should see it as an important day for us. Getting 'married' truly transformed our lives. We'd been together for over 5 years before the law was changed and we could 'marry'. Those early years were a real struggle -- our time was repeatedly limited by the hostile actions of immigration officials, visa controls, and 9000 kilometres. I made many 13 hour flights where I had to stand almost the whole way there and back because of my back pain. Sometimes I was in so much pain I had to cancel the flight, and couldn't claim it on travel insurance because it was a pre-existing health problem. Air France ended up being one of my favourite airlines -- because they are so cool they actually turn an area of the plane into a bar, and I could stay there and chat with other passengers. With other airlines, passengers and crew were understandably wary of this man who would not sit down for more than a few minutes. Our relationship only survived those obstacles because of our determination and our love for each other. I hope that is not too much personal detail. I just thought I would provide a little back-story. Your kind thoughts are much appreciated, really. Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On 22/02/2010 16:26, Bernard Devlin wrote: On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Andre Garziaan...@andregarzia.com wrote: Congrats Bernard, happiness to you and yours :-D Now, the important piece, when is the party? Cheers! Andre Thanks Andre (and to Richmond, also). It's over 2 years ago since we got 'married', and we just had a very quiet celebration afterwards. I'm not someone who likes to draw attention to myself, even on a momentous occasion. We're not allowed to call it 'marriage' as that would have offended any number of religious minorities (yes, even christians are a religious minority here). That makes me fed up. Almost everything you do, I do, and anybody else does is bound to offend someone. Personally I am offended by any religious group that thinks it holds the moral high ground. I am also offended by those who think they have some sort of licence to stick their noses in other people's business and pass judgement. There are things that are morally wrong, such as murder; and it is morally wrong because it impinges on another's freedom of action (as does slavery). Actions or thoughts that are held to be morally wrong are rather hard to justify empirically and, as such, are probably held to be morally wrong because of either religious beliefs or religiously determined cultural beliefs (to explain that we should consider many atheists who hold that homosexuality is wrong - but when you try to pin them down you find that their set of values is normally based on the religion they make such a noise about despising). I really wish people could begin to see past the wrappings of gender, sexuality, race and so on, to the individuals within. All religions make it clear that God looks on us all with equal favour - and that should suffice. Still, I found the day far more moving and significant than I expected it to be. It's very nice to see that other people who are so far away and were not at all involved with it, should see it as an important day for us. Getting 'married' truly transformed our lives. We'd been together for over 5 years before the law was changed and we could 'marry'. Those early years were a real struggle -- our time was repeatedly limited by the hostile actions of immigration officials, visa controls, and 9000 kilometres. I made many 13 hour flights where I had to stand almost the whole way there and back because of my back pain. Sometimes I was in so much pain I had to cancel the flight, and couldn't claim it on travel insurance because it was a pre-existing health problem. Air France ended up being one of my favourite airlines -- because they are so cool they actually turn an area of the plane into a bar, and I could stay there and chat with other passengers. With other airlines, passengers and crew were understandably wary of this man who would not sit down for more than a few minutes. Our relationship only survived those obstacles because of our determination and our love for each other. determination and love will wash everything else away . . . :) I hope that is not too much personal detail. I just thought I would provide a little back-story. Your kind thoughts are much appreciated, really. Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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If you take the stance that men are capable of deciding what is absolutely moral and immoral, then your objections might carry some weight. What is unfortunate to your point of view, is that men often develop quite different standards of morality. Not entirely foreign mind you, only stricter or less confining. Now when you examine the reasons why some moral standards are looser than others, what you find is that the people who went with the looser standards had a vested interest in doing so. They themselves participated in activities that the stricter standard denounced, and so rejected the parts that might have condemned their actions. Their actions I say, not themselves. So can you really believe that men can be trusted to objectively form their own moral standards? Does any thinking person who reads this seriously entertain that notion? All the great despots think themselves basically moral people. So do criminals. So do politicians. What we need is someone who is just like us, but has demonstrated an absolute mastery of real morality to make the call for us. Someone who has been tempted like us, but without sin. But who could that be? And would we really want him to judge us if we met him? Really? Thankfully I know such a person, and luckily for all of us, He demonstrated not only moral mastery, but also the purest kind of mercy and grace towards those who fell at His feet and asked for it. I think you know who I am talking about. No greater love has any man than that he lay down his life for his friend. So when you talk about those holding the moral high ground, please try to see that you may be forming the notion of some bogey man in your head, and then eviscerating that image. All a good Christian is doing is repeating what that one Man and the one He called His Father in heaven has said. If you disagree with them, you have a much bigger problem than putting up with the messengers. Bob On Feb 22, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: That makes me fed up. Almost everything you do, I do, and anybody else does is bound to offend someone. Personally I am offended by any religious group that thinks it holds the moral high ground. I am also offended by those who think they have some sort of licence to stick their noses in other people's business and pass judgement. There are things that are morally wrong, such as murder; and it is morally wrong because it impinges on another's freedom of action (as does slavery). Actions or thoughts that are held to be morally wrong are rather hard to justify empirically and, as such, are probably held to be morally wrong because of either religious beliefs or religiously determined cultural beliefs (to explain that we should consider many atheists who hold that homosexuality is wrong - but when you try to pin them down you find that their set of values is normally based on the religion they make such a noise about despising). I really wish people could begin to see past the wrappings of gender, sexuality, race and so on, to the individuals within. All religions make it clear that God looks on us all with equal favour - and that should suffice. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Please let's stop this discussion about religion and morality. Those who like to judge the lives of others, and those who think 'live and let live' are never going to agree. They're incommensurable positions. My apologies for having caused this. Whilst many others have felt free to mention their personal lives on this list without judgement, it's why I have kept quiet all these years. If this discussion continues I'm sure that people will become more offended. I knew it wouldn't be long before Hitler or Pol Pot was brought up. But even I'm surprised how quickly it happened :-) Let's just get back to what matters to all of us - Revolution! Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Kay C Lan wrote: OK, I wasn't going to say anything, but seeings you are stumped, just think of the other benefits the Gay family enjoys... Divorces must be cheap, all you need do is move to a State where Gay marriages aren't recognized ;-) I'll keep that in mind. :) So far we still like each other though. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On 20/02/2010 10:23, J. Landman Gay wrote: Kay C Lan wrote: OK, I wasn't going to say anything, but seeings you are stumped, just think of the other benefits the Gay family enjoys... Divorces must be cheap, all you need do is move to a State where Gay marriages aren't recognized ;-) I'll keep that in mind. :) So far we still like each other though. All I can say is that, despite being boringly monogamous and heterosexual I am almost continually Happy, Bright and Gay AND . . . How a word that 500 years ago meant heterosexually loose managed to go via Jolly to what it means now entirely escapes me - 'tis very queer . . . :) --- Currently I am working on a paper for a Linguistics conference that will be held in Bucharest in June. It largely revolves about a diachronic analysis of meanings of the English word 'pig' (or, homonyms thereof) in comparison with the Bulgarian word 'prase' (= 'pig'); so we can say that for the next few months I will be pigging it. -- Back to the word 'Gay' . . . from a diachronic perspective it looks as though there has been one word whose meaning has changed over time; in fact in certain dialect regions of England the earlier sense of 'jolly' coexists beside its current 'homosexual' meaning. Now the question/problem is whether users of 'gay' in those areas where the 2 senses are used actually perceive them as 2 senses of the same word (Polysemy) or whether they perceive them as 2 separate words that sound the same (Homonymy) - should they be unaware of the diachronic history of 'gay' they may be inclined to see 'gay' 'gay' as 2 distinct words. Certainly it would be quite difficult to work out the semantic step from 'jolly' to 'homosexual' unless, of course, there was an awareness of the even earlier sense of 'heterosexual looseness'. A cognitive radial category diagram for 'gay' would probably not work as there do not seem to be speech communities that have or had concepts that somehow connected jollity with being homosexual. Neither polysemy nor homonyny exist as external 'things', being psychological categories that came about as there was a perceived need to make language as efficient as possible; polysemy being concerned with efficiency in regard to conceptualisation, homonymy in regard to formality. This is probably more easily understood if we fall back on the ideas of FUNCTION versus FORM. Sorry, chaps, wearing one of my other hats for a bit there . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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OK, I wasn't going to say anything, but seeings you are stumped, just think of the other benefits the Gay family enjoys... Divorces must be cheap, all you need do is move to a State where Gay marriages aren't recognized ;-) I'll keep that in mind. :) So far we still like each other though. All I can say is that, despite being boringly monogamous and heterosexual I am almost continually Happy, Bright and Gay AND . . . How a word that 500 years ago meant heterosexually loose managed to go via Jolly to what it means now entirely escapes me - 'tis very queer . . . :) I think it is changing again. My teenage sons refer to anything they don't like as being gay. So a difficult assignment is gay; missing the bus is gay; a teacher who growls at them is gay. It doesn't have to be a person, and while it has certainly not reverted to it's original meaning, it is losing it's homosexual connotations. But maybe that is just here in Australia. Cheers, Sarah P.S. Sorry Jacque - I'm sure they wouldn't think that you were gay :-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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We should definitively start a new list dedicated to linguistic questions ! Sorry for falling in it too... To come back to the french equivalent of fortnight (quinze jours, quinzaine). I realised it's quite logical, despite the opinion of Francis (or at least it was logical till the sixties when they were 6 working days in the week). If you have two weeks holidays, you are free for fifteen days, counting the sundays before and after the working weeks. The same for huit jours, huitaine. To Richmond: the etymology of french pigs, cochon, is strictly unknown... some people suggest the farmers called them cosh,cosh when feeding them. To Richmond and Jacque: in french, a gay is often called a tante (rather pejorative) - what to do with our poor aunts ? And gai firmly keeps it's jolly meaning, as we are using the english spelling for the other meaning. Jacques Le 20 févr. 2010 à 10:14, Sarah Reichelt a écrit : OK, I wasn't going to say anything, but seeings you are stumped, just think of the other benefits the Gay family enjoys... Divorces must be cheap, all you need do is move to a State where Gay marriages aren't recognized ;-) I'll keep that in mind. :) So far we still like each other though. All I can say is that, despite being boringly monogamous and heterosexual I am almost continually Happy, Bright and Gay AND . . . How a word that 500 years ago meant heterosexually loose managed to go via Jolly to what it means now entirely escapes me - 'tis very queer . . . :) I think it is changing again. My teenage sons refer to anything they don't like as being gay. So a difficult assignment is gay; missing the bus is gay; a teacher who growls at them is gay. It doesn't have to be a person, and while it has certainly not reverted to it's original meaning, it is losing it's homosexual connotations. But maybe that is just here in Australia. Cheers, Sarah P.S. Sorry Jacque - I'm sure they wouldn't think that you were gay :-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ** Prof. Jacques Hausser Department of Ecology and Evolution Biophore / Sorge University of Lausanne CH 1015 Lausanne please use my private address: 6 route de Burtigny CH-1269 Bassins tel/fax:++ 41 22 366 19 40 mobile: ++ 41 79 757 05 24 E-Mail: jacques.haus...@unil.ch *** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Sarah Reichelt
sarah.reich...@gmail.com wrote:
I think it is changing again. My teenage sons refer to anything they
don't like as being gay.
So a difficult assignment is gay; missing the bus is gay; a
teacher who growls at them is gay.
It doesn't have to be a person, and while it has certainly not
reverted to it's original meaning, it is losing it's homosexual
connotations. But maybe that is just here in Australia.
Not just limited to Australia, I've heard that usage on South Park for
years. I've no idea if South Park was creating or following a trend.
Clearly we've now lost the use of that charming little word. Although
in all truth, I think homos had been feeling 'gay' was a rather 70s
word and was now as unfashionable as flared corduroy trousers. (Hang
on, I think they came back in and went out again a few years ago...)
Anyway, homos have got a variety of other epithets (hostile and/or
clinical) by which they can described. Now that the majority of
people describe themselves as 'straight' or 'heterosexual', we are in
a different world from the late 1960s when gay people (along with
black people) started to declare terms they wanted the majority to use
to describe these minorities. I still have some old manifestos of the
Gay Liberation Front -- they are hilarious. But I think the world I
grew up in was already quite different from the world where those were
written.
Back then straight people would describe themselves as normal i.e.
they didn't have a term for themselves. There's even videos from the
1980s of people being interviewed on the streets of London, and when
asked are you heterosexual they would reply no, I'm married.
Since then we've had metrosexuals, transexuals ('men giving birth'?),
gay coming to mean 'naff''. I doubt there's anyone left in the UK who
doesn't know the difference between heterosexual/homosexual.
Personally I've always thought queer was suitable for gay people --
I've always found people who wanted to be normal to be rather creepy.
Being oneself I can understand, but suppressing individuality to go
with the crowd seems to reduce us to sheep. Mind you, queer would
then become an inclusive term that meant 'those who resist being
normalized'. I'm sure there's more than a few people on this list who
would describe themselves as 'queer'.
Having married a man recently, I certainly feel less than outré than
in my youth.
Bernard
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Kay C Lan wrote: On a slightly different note, it's always good to see when someone tries to do the right thing and translate their signs into a foreign language to help tourists. Of course it would help a lot more if they actually used a native speaker, rather than the www: http://www.kirainet.com/images/errortranslate.jpg The correct translation would be Dining Room, or maybe Restaurant, depending on the actual establishment. In Wales, signs have to be bilingual. Quality control is not all it might be though... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/7702913.stm -- I am Not a Number, I am a free NaN ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On 20/02/2010 12:21, Bernard Devlin wrote: snip Having married a man recently, I certainly feel less than outré than in my youth. You know, that is rather odd; I am married, and I certainly don't think I ever conceived of myself as getting married to a woman - rather; I got married to Snezha (that is my wife's name), Getting married to a woman and getting married to a man should stop, forthwith, as it degrades the person one loves to some sort of biological entity. Getting married to the person one loves, regardless of their gender, is a serious statement of love and commitment - and I salute Bernard as well as all others who have entered that sacred state . . . :) Nowadays, just getting married, in and of itself, is plain outré, as nowadays, instead of always saying I do like a bit of butter on my bread many people are saying; Now, you can butter your bread roll however you want. http://www.princessoftheworld.com/2009/08/05/nobody-my-darling-could-call-me-a-fussy-man/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Classic :-) On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Martin Baxter mb.use...@harbourhosting.co.uk wrote: In Wales, signs have to be bilingual. Quality control is not all it might be though... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/7702913.stm -- I am Not a Number, I am a free NaN ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Richmond Mathewson wrote: Certainly it would be quite difficult to work out the semantic step from 'jolly' to 'homosexual' unless, of course, there was an awareness of the even earlier sense of 'heterosexual looseness'. If I remember right, there was no semantic drift. The group simply decided arbitrarily that gay was the word they wanted to adopt, and then did so. It could easily have been anything else, and if it had been, then some other family would have been getting 3 AM phone calls from 9 year olds who had various, though usually unoriginal, suggestions for us. That all stopped when Caller ID became widespread, btw, for which we remain extremely grateful. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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I sympathise: On 21/02/2010, at 7:26 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: [...] hen some other family would have been getting 3 AM phone calls from 9 year olds who had various, though usually unoriginal, suggestions for us. [...] Our phone number used to be 1 digit off the number the local radio station used when running on-air competitions. We used to get regular phone calls at 3:00am from people who were desperate to tell us that they knew the name of the song! -- Igor de Oliveira Couto Sydney, Australia ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/02/2010 04:35, J. Landman Gay wrote: :) I think I've posted this before but it's too good a line to let go of. A few years ago my husband looked up from the evening news and said, Gay marriage has been an institution in our family for generations. I don't see what the big deal is. You have me stumped; there is absolutely no way I can top THAT ONE! Bravo. OK, I wasn't going to say anything, but seeings you are stumped, just think of the other benefits the Gay family enjoys... Divorces must be cheap, all you need do is move to a State where Gay marriages aren't recognized ;-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On a slightly different note, it's always good to see when someone tries to do the right thing and translate their signs into a foreign language to help tourists. Of course it would help a lot more if they actually used a native speaker, rather than the www: http://www.kirainet.com/images/errortranslate.jpg The correct translation would be Dining Room, or maybe Restaurant, depending on the actual establishment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Bernard Devlin wrote: Every attempt I make at pronouncing a word in Thai is greeted with furrowed brows or hilarity (and often in that order). A Cambodian acquaintance was telling me how Americans just can't hear the different intonations in their language. She gave as an example the words for dog and...um... male bits, which are identical except for the tonalities. I made her repeat the words several times and I could not for the life of me hear any difference at all. I tried to say dog and she exploded in laughter. Which makes me quite certain that I never, ever want to inquire about a lost dog in Cambodia. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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So maybe what you're saying is that they MISTAKENLY eat so much...dog...there. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Mikey wrote: So maybe what you're saying is that they MISTAKENLY eat so much...dog...there. I'm not going there, Mikey. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 3:09 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: Which makes me quite certain that I never, ever want to inquire about a lost dog in Cambodia. What about your poor husband Hi I'm Gay and I'm looking for.. ;-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Kay C Lan wrote: On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 3:09 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: Which makes me quite certain that I never, ever want to inquire about a lost dog in Cambodia. What about your poor husband Hi I'm Gay and I'm looking for.. ;-) :) I think I've posted this before but it's too good a line to let go of. A few years ago my husband looked up from the evening news and said, Gay marriage has been an institution in our family for generations. I don't see what the big deal is. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Languages and cultures (was Re: survey)
On 19/02/2010 04:35, J. Landman Gay wrote: Kay C Lan wrote: On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 3:09 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: Which makes me quite certain that I never, ever want to inquire about a lost dog in Cambodia. What about your poor husband Hi I'm Gay and I'm looking for.. ;-) :) I think I've posted this before but it's too good a line to let go of. A few years ago my husband looked up from the evening news and said, Gay marriage has been an institution in our family for generations. I don't see what the big deal is. You have me stumped; there is absolutely no way I can top THAT ONE! Bravo. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
