Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?
On 06/27/2010 07:19 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Sunday, June 27, 2010, 8:54:39 AM, you wrote: A girlfriend once sent me a card from Saudi Arabia (1979) and I got it (in England) 5 months later with stamps from South Korea; but the best has to be a letter somebody posted me from Applecross (on the west coast of Scotland) to my house (at St Andrews on the east coast of Scotland) it arrived with a Canadian postmarking! My tale: Some years ago we were working in Mozambique. I had a birthday coming up and my parents, planning ahead, sent me a card a month ahead of time to ensure that it would arrive by the proper day. It did, and in fact arrived a couple of days early. But it had been rubber-stamped "missent to Manila". Now I can understand this: someone in a post office somewhere simply filed the envelope in a pigeonhole in the "M" section of the office and got "Manila" instead of "Maputo". I have no doubt that these are right next to each other in the office. What got to me, though, is that this happens often enough that someone in the Manila post office made a rubber stamp to handle the situation. Well . . . let's hope that while your card from your Mum and Dad was "missent to Manila", your youth was not "misspent in Maputo" . . . :) This is, of course, written by someone, who, at the tender age of 48, is busy misspending his 'youth' in Bulgaria! As an EFL teacher I think I ought to get "all huffy" about 'missent' [as opposed to 'miss sent'] but I find it rather appealing. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?
Richmond- Sunday, June 27, 2010, 8:54:39 AM, you wrote: > A girlfriend once sent me a card from Saudi Arabia (1979) and I got it (in > England) 5 months later with stamps from South Korea; but the best has > to be a > letter somebody posted me from Applecross (on the west coast of Scotland) > to my house (at St Andrews on the east coast of Scotland) it arrived with > a Canadian postmarking! My tale: Some years ago we were working in Mozambique. I had a birthday coming up and my parents, planning ahead, sent me a card a month ahead of time to ensure that it would arrive by the proper day. It did, and in fact arrived a couple of days early. But it had been rubber-stamped "missent to Manila". Now I can understand this: someone in a post office somewhere simply filed the envelope in a pigeonhole in the "M" section of the office and got "Manila" instead of "Maputo". I have no doubt that these are right next to each other in the office. What got to me, though, is that this happens often enough that someone in the Manila post office made a rubber stamp to handle the situation. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?
On 06/27/2010 06:40 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: I've picked the package at my parents house, made a nice package and am waiting for the tracking number which should arrive tomorrow so the fun can start. It took me a while to drop by my parents house to pick it up on the attic. I've tested and it worked fine! I am just removing the IDE drive inside since it contains old backups. You'll need to provide a HD to put into it. Cheers andre This is fantastic; I have (despite somebody writing that they are not made) a 750 GB PATA/IDE drive that is full of backups just looking for a home! However; I wonder if it might not be better to send it to my parents' home in England (although, as far as postal adventures go that may not be as much fun) as I shall be there at the start of August. A girlfriend once sent me a card from Saudi Arabia (1979) and I got it (in England) 5 months later with stamps from South Korea; but the best has to be a letter somebody posted me from Applecross (on the west coast of Scotland) to my house (at St Andrews on the east coast of Scotland) it arrived with a Canadian postmarking! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?
I've picked the package at my parents house, made a nice package and am waiting for the tracking number which should arrive tomorrow so the fun can start. It took me a while to drop by my parents house to pick it up on the attic. I've tested and it worked fine! I am just removing the IDE drive inside since it contains old backups. You'll need to provide a HD to put into it. Cheers andre On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Richmond wrote: > On 06/09/2010 09:38 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: > >> Richmond, >> >> Send me your snail mail address, I think I have an spare firewaire >> enclosure >> you could use. It was made in taiwan eons ago but it works, you just pop >> an >> HD inside it and it will work. >> >> I don't know if a shipment from Brazil to Bulgaria will ever arrive, you >> might get some weird stamps in it as if the package traveled to asia, >> africa, oceania, the international space station, io and more before it >> reaches you but it is worth a try. >> >> >> > > What is the news, Andre > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?
On 06/09/2010 09:38 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: Richmond, Send me your snail mail address, I think I have an spare firewaire enclosure you could use. It was made in taiwan eons ago but it works, you just pop an HD inside it and it will work. I don't know if a shipment from Brazil to Bulgaria will ever arrive, you might get some weird stamps in it as if the package traveled to asia, africa, oceania, the international space station, io and more before it reaches you but it is worth a try. What is the news, Andre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?
I did not know about that one, very nice. One thing about the other is it works with IDE/ATAP which I think is the main drive in the G4 so it can be used to update a drive and then swap it out with the old smaller drive, at least that is what I think it can help out in. -=>JB<=- On Jun 10, 2010, at 1:15 PM, stephen barncard wrote: This device is a lot less "messy" - like a toaster. I've got the firewire version. http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Technology/U2ES2HDK/ On 10 June 2010 13:09, -= JB =- wrote: If I remember correctly you were talking about USB 2.0 cards, SATA drives etc. to run on a Mac G4. Below is a link to and interesting product that will hook up to your USB port and then you can use from it various internal drives as and external drive. They also sell rubber holders for the drive to prevent the drive from shorting out. It is reasonably priced too. http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Technology/U2NV2SPATA/? utm_source=macworld&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=120409 -=>JB<=- On Jun 10, 2010, at 7:31 AM, Luis wrote: Hiya, If you haven't sent it yet, I might be tempted to challenge your delivery... :) Let's see who gets there first! Let me think, what would Mr. Mathewson require... BTW: Why not transfer the files over ethernet? I had once reinstalled the OS (not clean) and had access to the files, I then transferred the entire lot over cat5 to another machine, much quicker. If the G4 has space for two drives: Do a clean install on a new drive (doesn't have to be large capacity) and mount the second drive, then transfer over ethernet. Cheers, Luis. On 09/06/2010 20:40, Andre Garzia wrote: I will send it as a registered package so we can all have terrible fun while tracking it, it will be like "where in the world is carmen sandiego" or something... On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Richmond wrote: On 06/09/2010 10:24 PM, stephen barncard wrote: It would be quite an interesting read as a Fedex tracking document. But I don't think that 's what you meant. I am eagerly awaiting news on this amazing international shipping experiment! No offence to Andre; but I think I can safely describe Brazil and Bulgaria as a wee bit corrupt; so I have sent Andre my address for what is a generous gift; and we shall see what we shall see. Notwithstanding the above Amazon gets through! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?
On 06/10/2010 05:31 PM, Luis wrote: Hiya, If you haven't sent it yet, I might be tempted to challenge your delivery... :) Let's see who gets there first! Let me think, what would Mr. Mathewson require... "Mr Mathewson" has just bought a USB2 PCI card (10 Euros) and a fan (3 Euros) (he will remove the internal speaker at the front of the g4 MDD and mount the fan just there): http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/mdd_cooling_mods/MDD_cooling_mods2.html#storytop he is currently trying to lay his hands on a PCI Slot Cooler fan to put at the back (fan at front sucks in, fan at back puffs out): http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/MDD_slot_cooler/mdd_slot_cooler.html#storytop most of his problems probably come down to over-heating. He will be removing a 750 GB and a 320 GB ATA disk from his G4 and move them into Firewire enclosures (he has one and Andre Garzia is sending him another). He is also wondering about collecting a SCSI CD burner from his house in Scotland and popping a disk inside that (as he has a SCSI PCI card on the back of his G4) He is also wondering about popping a fan directly on top of the heatsink: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/mdd_cooling_mods/MDD_cooling_mods.html#storytop He will be extremely grateful for any Firewire enclosures, PCI slot coolers, and so on that anybody sees fit to send him: if anybody wants to send him a Mac Pro he is not quite sure whether he has sufficient gratefulness in his reservoir to repay that sort of thing . . . :) As I know Mr Mathewson reasonably well I know that he intends to go through with this plan this coming Saturday and Sunday! sincerely, Richmond Mathewson (related). ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?
yes, of course...good point. I have a device like that. Good for emergency situations, not good for routine backup. Too many wires. sqb On 10 June 2010 13:44, -= JB =- wrote: > I did not know about that one, very nice. One thing about the > other is it works with IDE/ATAP which I think is the main drive > in the G4 so it can be used to update a drive and then swap > it out with the old smaller drive, at least that is what I think it > can help out in. > > -=>JB<=- > > > > > On Jun 10, 2010, at 1:15 PM, stephen barncard wrote: > > This device is a lot less "messy" - like a toaster. I've got the firewire >> version. >> >> http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Technology/U2ES2HDK/ >> >> On 10 June 2010 13:09, -= JB =- wrote: >> >> If I remember correctly you were talking about USB 2.0 cards, SATA drives >>> etc. >>> to run on a Mac G4. Below is a link to and interesting product that will >>> hook up >>> to your USB port and then you can use from it various internal drives as >>> and >>> external drive. They also sell rubber holders for the drive to prevent >>> the >>> drive >>> from shorting out. It is reasonably priced too. >>> >>> >>> >>> http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Technology/U2NV2SPATA/?utm_source=macworld&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=120409 >>> >>> -=>JB<=- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 7:31 AM, Luis wrote: >>> >>> Hiya, >>> If you haven't sent it yet, I might be tempted to challenge your delivery... :) Let's see who gets there first! Let me think, what would Mr. Mathewson require... BTW: Why not transfer the files over ethernet? I had once reinstalled the OS (not clean) and had access to the files, I then transferred the entire lot over cat5 to another machine, much quicker. If the G4 has space for two drives: Do a clean install on a new drive (doesn't have to be large capacity) and mount the second drive, then transfer over ethernet. Cheers, Luis. On 09/06/2010 20:40, Andre Garzia wrote: I will send it as a registered package so we can all have terrible fun > while > tracking it, it will be like "where in the world is carmen sandiego" or > something... > > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Richmond >> wrote: >> > > On 06/09/2010 10:24 PM, stephen barncard wrote: > >> >> It would be quite an interesting read as a Fedex tracking document. >> But >> >>> I >>> don't think that 's what you meant. >>> >>> I am eagerly awaiting news on this amazing international shipping >>> experiment! >>> >>> >>> >>> No offence to Andre; but I think I can safely describe Brazil >>> >> and Bulgaria as a wee bit corrupt; so I have sent Andre my address for >> what is a generous gift; and we shall see what we shall see. >> >> Notwithstanding the above Amazon gets through! >> >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> >> >> > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ >>> use-revolution mailing list >>> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> - >> Stephen Barncard >> San Francisco >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> >> > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- - Stephen Barncard San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?
This device is a lot less "messy" - like a toaster. I've got the firewire version. http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Technology/U2ES2HDK/ On 10 June 2010 13:09, -= JB =- wrote: > If I remember correctly you were talking about USB 2.0 cards, SATA drives > etc. > to run on a Mac G4. Below is a link to and interesting product that will > hook up > to your USB port and then you can use from it various internal drives as > and > external drive. They also sell rubber holders for the drive to prevent the > drive > from shorting out. It is reasonably priced too. > > > http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Technology/U2NV2SPATA/?utm_source=macworld&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=120409 > > -=>JB<=- > > > > > On Jun 10, 2010, at 7:31 AM, Luis wrote: > > Hiya, >> >> If you haven't sent it yet, I might be tempted to challenge your >> delivery... :) Let's see who gets there first! >> >> Let me think, what would Mr. Mathewson require... >> >> BTW: Why not transfer the files over ethernet? I had once reinstalled the >> OS (not clean) and had access to the files, I then transferred the entire >> lot over cat5 to another machine, much quicker. >> If the G4 has space for two drives: Do a clean install on a new drive >> (doesn't have to be large capacity) and mount the second drive, then >> transfer over ethernet. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Luis. >> >> >> On 09/06/2010 20:40, Andre Garzia wrote: >> >>> I will send it as a registered package so we can all have terrible fun >>> while >>> tracking it, it will be like "where in the world is carmen sandiego" or >>> something... >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Richmond>> >wrote: >>> >>> On 06/09/2010 10:24 PM, stephen barncard wrote: It would be quite an interesting read as a Fedex tracking document. But > I > don't think that 's what you meant. > > I am eagerly awaiting news on this amazing international shipping > experiment! > > > > No offence to Andre; but I think I can safely describe Brazil and Bulgaria as a wee bit corrupt; so I have sent Andre my address for what is a generous gift; and we shall see what we shall see. Notwithstanding the above Amazon gets through! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >>> >>> >>> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> >> > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- - Stephen Barncard San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?
If I remember correctly you were talking about USB 2.0 cards, SATA drives etc. to run on a Mac G4. Below is a link to and interesting product that will hook up to your USB port and then you can use from it various internal drives as and external drive. They also sell rubber holders for the drive to prevent the drive from shorting out. It is reasonably priced too. http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Technology/U2NV2SPATA/? utm_source=macworld&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=120409 -=>JB<=- On Jun 10, 2010, at 7:31 AM, Luis wrote: Hiya, If you haven't sent it yet, I might be tempted to challenge your delivery... :) Let's see who gets there first! Let me think, what would Mr. Mathewson require... BTW: Why not transfer the files over ethernet? I had once reinstalled the OS (not clean) and had access to the files, I then transferred the entire lot over cat5 to another machine, much quicker. If the G4 has space for two drives: Do a clean install on a new drive (doesn't have to be large capacity) and mount the second drive, then transfer over ethernet. Cheers, Luis. On 09/06/2010 20:40, Andre Garzia wrote: I will send it as a registered package so we can all have terrible fun while tracking it, it will be like "where in the world is carmen sandiego" or something... On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Richmondwrote: On 06/09/2010 10:24 PM, stephen barncard wrote: It would be quite an interesting read as a Fedex tracking document. But I don't think that 's what you meant. I am eagerly awaiting news on this amazing international shipping experiment! No offence to Andre; but I think I can safely describe Brazil and Bulgaria as a wee bit corrupt; so I have sent Andre my address for what is a generous gift; and we shall see what we shall see. Notwithstanding the above Amazon gets through! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?
Hiya, If you haven't sent it yet, I might be tempted to challenge your delivery... :) Let's see who gets there first! Let me think, what would Mr. Mathewson require... BTW: Why not transfer the files over ethernet? I had once reinstalled the OS (not clean) and had access to the files, I then transferred the entire lot over cat5 to another machine, much quicker. If the G4 has space for two drives: Do a clean install on a new drive (doesn't have to be large capacity) and mount the second drive, then transfer over ethernet. Cheers, Luis. On 09/06/2010 20:40, Andre Garzia wrote: I will send it as a registered package so we can all have terrible fun while tracking it, it will be like "where in the world is carmen sandiego" or something... On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Richmondwrote: On 06/09/2010 10:24 PM, stephen barncard wrote: It would be quite an interesting read as a Fedex tracking document. But I don't think that 's what you meant. I am eagerly awaiting news on this amazing international shipping experiment! No offence to Andre; but I think I can safely describe Brazil and Bulgaria as a wee bit corrupt; so I have sent Andre my address for what is a generous gift; and we shall see what we shall see. Notwithstanding the above Amazon gets through! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?
Andre Garzia wrote: I don't know if a shipment from Brazil to Bulgaria will ever arrive, you might get some weird stamps in it as if the package traveled to asia, africa, oceania, the international space station, io and more before it reaches you but it is worth a try. You forgot to put Io in your "Where's my luggage" game. I want an update! :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?
I will send it as a registered package so we can all have terrible fun while tracking it, it will be like "where in the world is carmen sandiego" or something... On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Richmond wrote: > On 06/09/2010 10:24 PM, stephen barncard wrote: > >> It would be quite an interesting read as a Fedex tracking document. But I >> don't think that 's what you meant. >> >> I am eagerly awaiting news on this amazing international shipping >> experiment! >> >> >> > No offence to Andre; but I think I can safely describe Brazil > and Bulgaria as a wee bit corrupt; so I have sent Andre my address for > what is a generous gift; and we shall see what we shall see. > > Notwithstanding the above Amazon gets through! > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?
On 06/09/2010 10:24 PM, stephen barncard wrote: It would be quite an interesting read as a Fedex tracking document. But I don't think that 's what you meant. I am eagerly awaiting news on this amazing international shipping experiment! No offence to Andre; but I think I can safely describe Brazil and Bulgaria as a wee bit corrupt; so I have sent Andre my address for what is a generous gift; and we shall see what we shall see. Notwithstanding the above Amazon gets through! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?
It would be quite an interesting read as a Fedex tracking document. But I don't think that 's what you meant. I am eagerly awaiting news on this amazing international shipping experiment! On 9 June 2010 11:38, Andre Garzia wrote: > Richmond, > > Send me your snail mail address, I think I have an spare firewaire > enclosure > you could use. It was made in taiwan eons ago but it works, you just pop an > HD inside it and it will work. > > I don't know if a shipment from Brazil to Bulgaria will ever arrive, you > might get some weird stamps in it as if the package traveled to asia, > africa, oceania, the international space station, io and more before it > reaches you but it is worth a try. > > Cheers > andre > PS: I know what it is to live somewhere where hardware simply is not > available... it took eons for macbooks to arrive here... > > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Richmond >wrote: > > > On 06/09/2010 08:07 PM, stephen barncard wrote: > > > >> Richmond, do you have a problem with Firewire? Even FW 400 is way faster > >> than USB2 for extended disk operations. (IMHO) USB is for mice and > >> keyboards > >> and USB sticks. > >> > >> > >> > > > > NO! I have no problem at all with Firewire; and, just as soon as I have > my > > G4 up-and-running > > I am going to yank out a 750 GB ATA disk I have inside and pop it into a > > LaCie Firewire-&-USB > > external box I have. > > > > YES! Bulgaria has a problem with Firewire as (well, at least in Plovdiv) > > there are about 10 Macs in the country, > > and 4 of them are mine; so nobody sells a Firewire external thing here. > > > > Once I have hoicked out the 750 GB and got it inside the Firewire box I > > shall; glacially slowly, > > pop all my USB backup onto that - but, a USB2 card (I saw one online by > > Allegro) would > > expedite matters considerably. > > > > The 1.5 TB could then be connected up to a P4 I am currently using with > > kids I teach to do a remake > > of "Snow White and the incredibly expanding list of pupils" with puppets > > made from old socks: > > no doubt knocking everything out of competition at Cannes next year . . . > > :) And before you ask; the > > 'pupils', being made of socks, will be called "mouldy, manky, sweaty, > > cheesy, holey" and so on! > > > > > > "USB is for mice and keyboards and USB sticks." > > > > try telling that to some salesperson in a computer shop here in Bulgaria; > > first off, they haven't heard > > of Firewire! > > > > What is not at all clear to me is what is actually inside the Maxell > Tank; > > documentation is minimal > > to say the least, and I am reluctant to open the thing up until its > > guarantee expires (2 years); but, > > for a 1.5 TB disk it is rather cheap. Should it contain a PATA or a SATA > > disk I am wondering about > > buying an empty Firewire enclosure in Britain (will be over there for 12 > > days at the start of August) > > to transfer it to. > > > > -- > > > > The whole thing, ultimately, boils down to my own stupidity. I should > have > > realised that a G4 Mac at > > 7 years old just might throw a tantrum; and I should have made proviso > for > > that; but didn't. > > > > ___ > > use-revolution mailing list > > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > > > > > -- > http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- - Stephen Barncard San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?
Richmond, Send me your snail mail address, I think I have an spare firewaire enclosure you could use. It was made in taiwan eons ago but it works, you just pop an HD inside it and it will work. I don't know if a shipment from Brazil to Bulgaria will ever arrive, you might get some weird stamps in it as if the package traveled to asia, africa, oceania, the international space station, io and more before it reaches you but it is worth a try. Cheers andre PS: I know what it is to live somewhere where hardware simply is not available... it took eons for macbooks to arrive here... On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Richmond wrote: > On 06/09/2010 08:07 PM, stephen barncard wrote: > >> Richmond, do you have a problem with Firewire? Even FW 400 is way faster >> than USB2 for extended disk operations. (IMHO) USB is for mice and >> keyboards >> and USB sticks. >> >> >> > > NO! I have no problem at all with Firewire; and, just as soon as I have my > G4 up-and-running > I am going to yank out a 750 GB ATA disk I have inside and pop it into a > LaCie Firewire-&-USB > external box I have. > > YES! Bulgaria has a problem with Firewire as (well, at least in Plovdiv) > there are about 10 Macs in the country, > and 4 of them are mine; so nobody sells a Firewire external thing here. > > Once I have hoicked out the 750 GB and got it inside the Firewire box I > shall; glacially slowly, > pop all my USB backup onto that - but, a USB2 card (I saw one online by > Allegro) would > expedite matters considerably. > > The 1.5 TB could then be connected up to a P4 I am currently using with > kids I teach to do a remake > of "Snow White and the incredibly expanding list of pupils" with puppets > made from old socks: > no doubt knocking everything out of competition at Cannes next year . . . > :) And before you ask; the > 'pupils', being made of socks, will be called "mouldy, manky, sweaty, > cheesy, holey" and so on! > > > "USB is for mice and keyboards and USB sticks." > > try telling that to some salesperson in a computer shop here in Bulgaria; > first off, they haven't heard > of Firewire! > > What is not at all clear to me is what is actually inside the Maxell Tank; > documentation is minimal > to say the least, and I am reluctant to open the thing up until its > guarantee expires (2 years); but, > for a 1.5 TB disk it is rather cheap. Should it contain a PATA or a SATA > disk I am wondering about > buying an empty Firewire enclosure in Britain (will be over there for 12 > days at the start of August) > to transfer it to. > > -- > > The whole thing, ultimately, boils down to my own stupidity. I should have > realised that a G4 Mac at > 7 years old just might throw a tantrum; and I should have made proviso for > that; but didn't. > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?
Hi Richmond, Regardless the PATA standard is dead for new manufacture and very few are made anymore. I can't find them in the cavernous big box stores in California at all. The sick thing is if you can find 750's on ebay and Amazon they cost more than today's modern SATA (and probaby not as reliable). If one wants to continue using G4s and other older machines, it's cheaper just getting a inexpensive SATA card. On ebay all the prices I saw for 750's was over $185 US. In the big box stores, the 1.5 gig are coming down, quickly and the new price/performance is now going to the 2.0 gig drives, and the 1.5TB drives could go for less than $100 soon, if not now. again, Tiger Direct has one for $24 - not sure of the compat or drivers but this shows that these devices are out there. A lot of this PC-only stuff just runs. Some of it doesn't. Tiger has a live chat that might even work. Pretty impressive computer gear store. They've come a long way from their 'cheesy electronic gadget' days. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3501402&CatId=1455 I wonder why, as well as having 4 external USB2 ports it has 2 internal ones: I'd be hard-put to squeeze anything else inside my G4; although a second fan (err??? possibly connected to an internal USB port) might not be a bad thing. PCs often have bigger boxes and SIX slots. Don't forget there's a little area for a floppy or second CD drive in some G4s. On 9 June 2010 11:37, Richmond wrote: > On 06/09/2010 09:28 PM, stephen barncard wrote: > >> There are no PATA drives over 500 gig. The technology shifted after that >> point. >> >> > > That is NOT true; I have a 750 PATA (IDE/ATA) drive in my G4; ordered it > through Amazon.uk about 2 years ago. > > It seems hard to obtain PATA drives nowadays; this is sad as I have about > 5 perfectly serviceable Pentium 4s lying around that, with decent size hard > drives > (i.e. not the 20 GB ones they currently have) could be 'thrown' at quite a > few > of my pupils for the cost of a PATA drive (80-160 GB) and Mint XFCE; for > which > they would be very happy. > > > Yeah, old G4s. I have a bunch of them. I know. G4s kinda like Tiger but >> they >> really don't like Leopard. Some of the later ones (as well as my G5 ) have >> these giant processor sections with liquid cooling and outside pipes that >> look like miniatures of the first hydrogen bomb. >> >> TIGER DIRECT has a cheap ($14) USB card that seems to be rated for Mac and >> has good reviews >> >> >> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4143850&csid=_25 >> >> >> > > Thank you very much for the link. > > I wonder why, as well as having 4 external USB2 ports it has 2 internal > ones: > I'd be hard-put to squeeze anything else inside my G4; although a second > fan > (err??? possibly connected to an internal USB port) might not be a bad > thing. > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- - Stephen Barncard San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?
On 06/09/2010 09:28 PM, stephen barncard wrote: There are no PATA drives over 500 gig. The technology shifted after that point. That is NOT true; I have a 750 PATA (IDE/ATA) drive in my G4; ordered it through Amazon.uk about 2 years ago. It seems hard to obtain PATA drives nowadays; this is sad as I have about 5 perfectly serviceable Pentium 4s lying around that, with decent size hard drives (i.e. not the 20 GB ones they currently have) could be 'thrown' at quite a few of my pupils for the cost of a PATA drive (80-160 GB) and Mint XFCE; for which they would be very happy. Yeah, old G4s. I have a bunch of them. I know. G4s kinda like Tiger but they really don't like Leopard. Some of the later ones (as well as my G5 ) have these giant processor sections with liquid cooling and outside pipes that look like miniatures of the first hydrogen bomb. TIGER DIRECT has a cheap ($14) USB card that seems to be rated for Mac and has good reviews http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4143850&csid=_25 Thank you very much for the link. I wonder why, as well as having 4 external USB2 ports it has 2 internal ones: I'd be hard-put to squeeze anything else inside my G4; although a second fan (err??? possibly connected to an internal USB port) might not be a bad thing. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?
There are no PATA drives over 500 gig. The technology shifted after that point. Yeah, old G4s. I have a bunch of them. I know. G4s kinda like Tiger but they really don't like Leopard. Some of the later ones (as well as my G5 ) have these giant processor sections with liquid cooling and outside pipes that look like miniatures of the first hydrogen bomb. TIGER DIRECT has a cheap ($14) USB card that seems to be rated for Mac and has good reviews http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4143850&csid=_25 On 9 June 2010 11:10, Richmond wrote: > > What is not at all clear to me is what is actually inside the Maxell Tank; > documentation is minimal > to say the least, and I am reluctant to open the thing up until its > guarantee expires (2 years); but, > for a 1.5 TB disk it is rather cheap. Should it contain a PATA or a SATA > disk I am wondering about > buying an empty Firewire enclosure in Britain (will be over there for 12 > days at the start of August) > to transfer it to. > > -- > > The whole thing, ultimately, boils down to my own stupidity. I should have > realised that a G4 Mac at > 7 years old just might throw a tantrum; and I should have made proviso for > that; but didn't. > > -- - Stephen Barncard San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?
On 06/09/2010 08:07 PM, stephen barncard wrote: Richmond, do you have a problem with Firewire? Even FW 400 is way faster than USB2 for extended disk operations. (IMHO) USB is for mice and keyboards and USB sticks. NO! I have no problem at all with Firewire; and, just as soon as I have my G4 up-and-running I am going to yank out a 750 GB ATA disk I have inside and pop it into a LaCie Firewire-&-USB external box I have. YES! Bulgaria has a problem with Firewire as (well, at least in Plovdiv) there are about 10 Macs in the country, and 4 of them are mine; so nobody sells a Firewire external thing here. Once I have hoicked out the 750 GB and got it inside the Firewire box I shall; glacially slowly, pop all my USB backup onto that - but, a USB2 card (I saw one online by Allegro) would expedite matters considerably. The 1.5 TB could then be connected up to a P4 I am currently using with kids I teach to do a remake of "Snow White and the incredibly expanding list of pupils" with puppets made from old socks: no doubt knocking everything out of competition at Cannes next year . . . :) And before you ask; the 'pupils', being made of socks, will be called "mouldy, manky, sweaty, cheesy, holey" and so on! "USB is for mice and keyboards and USB sticks." try telling that to some salesperson in a computer shop here in Bulgaria; first off, they haven't heard of Firewire! What is not at all clear to me is what is actually inside the Maxell Tank; documentation is minimal to say the least, and I am reluctant to open the thing up until its guarantee expires (2 years); but, for a 1.5 TB disk it is rather cheap. Should it contain a PATA or a SATA disk I am wondering about buying an empty Firewire enclosure in Britain (will be over there for 12 days at the start of August) to transfer it to. -- The whole thing, ultimately, boils down to my own stupidity. I should have realised that a G4 Mac at 7 years old just might throw a tantrum; and I should have made proviso for that; but didn't. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?
Richmond, do you have a problem with Firewire? Even FW 400 is way faster than USB2 for extended disk operations. (IMHO) USB is for mice and keyboards and USB sticks. On 9 June 2010 09:52, Richmond wrote: > So; my G4 MAC went wonky; very wonky. > > So; I ran out and spent 150 Euros on a Maxell 1.5 TB 'Tank' with > a USB2 interface; and spend the better part of 9 days backing > the computer up (remember the useful motto: "never do the > sensible thing until after the disaster happens") > > For those who are interested in this type of thing; the MAC wouldn't 'see' > the 1.5 TB disk for WRITE until it had been partitioned into 10 150 GB > partions. > > The G4 MAC only has USB1 ports . . . > > So; late to the table as usual . . . :) > > Can anybody recommend a USB2 card I can pop in the back of my G4? > > Hey; maybe there is a way to ensure that restoration doesn't > take another 9 days. > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- - Stephen Barncard San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?
So; my G4 MAC went wonky; very wonky. So; I ran out and spent 150 Euros on a Maxell 1.5 TB 'Tank' with a USB2 interface; and spend the better part of 9 days backing the computer up (remember the useful motto: "never do the sensible thing until after the disaster happens") For those who are interested in this type of thing; the MAC wouldn't 'see' the 1.5 TB disk for WRITE until it had been partitioned into 10 150 GB partions. The G4 MAC only has USB1 ports . . . So; late to the table as usual . . . :) Can anybody recommend a USB2 card I can pop in the back of my G4? Hey; maybe there is a way to ensure that restoration doesn't take another 9 days. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
