Re: Blowing in the Wind
On Aug 20, 2005, at 10:56 PM, Judy Perry wrote: Is it just Flash in general or Macromedia products (specifically, Director) in particular? I've noticed this as well... Judy On Sat, 20 Aug 2005, Geoff Canyon wrote: As people have said, Flash can't have shaped windows in the first place, so this animation is out of consideration. My experience with Flash movies in general is that they happily take up 100% of my 1.2gHx CPU. Check out the N game for an example: It's been so long since I ran a Director project, I have no idea. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Blowing in the Wind
Yeah, I understand... but I had to use it for my MS in IDT... and it was P-A-I-N-F-U-L-L and E-X-P-E-N-S-I-V-E.. (had to pay $1,000+ for data recovery). Colin Holgate from the HC list finally alerted me that there was a serious problem with running it under classic that ate up all CPU power... and made it crash REPEATEDLY... (like, several times per hour)... My program, of course, thought I was lying... :( Didn't make me like Director, obviously... and now makes me hesitant about Flash (once or twice burned...) Judy On Sat, 20 Aug 2005, Geoff Canyon wrote: On Aug 20, 2005, at 10:56 PM, Judy Perry wrote: Is it just Flash in general or Macromedia products (specifically, Director) in particular? I've noticed this as well... Judy On Sat, 20 Aug 2005, Geoff Canyon wrote: As people have said, Flash can't have shaped windows in the first place, so this animation is out of consideration. My experience with Flash movies in general is that they happily take up 100% of my 1.2gHx CPU. Check out the N game for an example: It's been so long since I ran a Director project, I have no idea. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Blowing in the Wind
As people have said, Flash can't have shaped windows in the first place, so this animation is out of consideration. My experience with Flash movies in general is that they happily take up 100% of my 1.2gHx CPU. Recently, Judy Perry wrote: Is it just Flash in general or Macromedia products (specifically, Director) in particular? I've noticed this as well... As far as shaped windows goes, the above is not true. I've believe I've seen at least two 3rd party products that allow you to apply a window mask to a projector (standalone). In terms of processor use, I think it depends on the content. But it's not just Macromedia. Even some of Adobe's products such as Photoshop do things behind the scenes that can bog down your system. This is very irritating given that product in particular is for manipulating images and has nothing to do with video/motion etc. (Due to the past hostility between the two companies, we used to joke that Adobe and Macromedia had CPD's -- Competitive Product Detectors -- written into their software that would cause the system to slow down if they detected any of their competitor's products running simultaneously.) Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Blowing in the Wind
And now they are to be one company. I shudder. I'm thinking of abandoning Mac and Windows and becoming a Linspire guy who doesn't depend at all on software megaliths like these clowns (Adobe), who have from the beginning played like bullies on the playground. On Aug 21, 2005, at 9:49 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: (Due to the past hostility between the two companies, we used to joke that Adobe and Macromedia had CPD's -- Competitive Product Detectors -- written into their software that would cause the system to slow down if they detected any of their competitor's products running simultaneously.) ~~ Dan Shafer, Revolution Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.revolutionpros.com, Click My Stuff ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Blowing in the Wind
On Sat, 20 Aug 2005, Geoff Canyon wrote: As people have said, Flash can't have shaped windows in the first place, so this animation is out of consideration. Look at this option to have custom shape windows in flash: mProjector. http://www.screentime.com/faqs/mProjector/index.html Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Blowing in the Wind
On Aug 19, 2005, at 12:59 PM, Todd Higgins wrote: Does anyone know how that would compare to a similar animation in Flash? As people have said, Flash can't have shaped windows in the first place, so this animation is out of consideration. My experience with Flash movies in general is that they happily take up 100% of my 1.2gHx CPU. Check out the N game for an example: http://www.harveycartel.org/metanet/n_screenshots.html It's a lot of fun, by the way -- great physics model. It's an example of something that I think could have been done with Rev -- albeit probably not as easily as in Flash. The game takes up everything my PowerBook has. On a 2+gHz PC, same story -- maxed CPU. It's too bad Flash (and Rev?) isn't more graphically efficient. The N game is less complex than what Ambrosia Software was running on a 6100 over ten years ago: http://www.ambrosiasw.com/games/maelstrom/ Granted, Ambrosia wrote that in C (assembly?). Still, graphics are graphics -- move this there and composite over that, etc. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Blowing in the Wind
Is it just Flash in general or Macromedia products (specifically, Director) in particular? I've noticed this as well... Judy On Sat, 20 Aug 2005, Geoff Canyon wrote: As people have said, Flash can't have shaped windows in the first place, so this animation is out of consideration. My experience with Flash movies in general is that they happily take up 100% of my 1.2gHx CPU. Check out the N game for an example: ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Blowing in the Wind
I would love to see the smooth effect, but it also flickers like mad under Rev 2.5.1, any chance of saving it as stack that I could get to from the Dreamcard 2.6.1 player? Thanks Todd On Aug 17, 2005, at 3:18 PM, MisterX wrote: actually, it's more like most european flags, flogged down the downpour ;( if you've been to Seattle, you know what i mean ;) ;) but this blowing stack really blows a lot of my expectations out of RunRev. It could do openGL if it really wanted too and in total transparency... just imagine the faces of the drulling developpers on other IDEs seeing this! cheers X -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Shafer Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 20:44 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Blowing in the Wind But I thought the wind was always blowing so strongly in Scotland that flags don't ripple, they just stand straight out. :-D Dan On Aug 17, 2005, at 5:21 AM, david bovill wrote: Lovely :) Any chance of a Scottish Flag? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Blowing in the Wind
Recently, Todd Higgins wrote: I would love to see the smooth effect, but it also flickers like mad under Rev 2.5.1, any chance of saving it as stack that I could get to from the Dreamcard 2.6.1 player? The flag stack is just that -- a stack. And it relies on the latest version of Rev to work since it uses the deep masks feature that is only present in the latest release. I don't know what version of the engine is present in Dreamcard 2.6.1 but if it's not based on the 2.6.5 (?) engine found in Rev, the flag stack still won't display properly. Sorry. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Blowing in the Wind
Thanks Scott, I was able to get it play smoothly in the 2.6 Revolution Dreamcard Player. It is a beautiful effect, but it was sucking up 25% of my G4's processor (867 PB). Is that typical? Does anyone know how that would compare to a similar animation in Flash? Todd On Aug 19, 2005, at 3:40 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, Todd Higgins wrote: I would love to see the smooth effect, but it also flickers like mad under Rev 2.5.1, any chance of saving it as stack that I could get to from the Dreamcard 2.6.1 player? The flag stack is just that -- a stack. And it relies on the latest version of Rev to work since it uses the deep masks feature that is only present in the latest release. I don't know what version of the engine is present in Dreamcard 2.6.1 but if it's not based on the 2.6.5 (?) engine found in Rev, the flag stack still won't display properly. Sorry. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Blowing in the Wind
Excellent work scott! And twice as funny if you set the systemWindow of the stack to true. :-) I was able to get it play smoothly in the 2.6 Revolution Dreamcard Player. It is a beautiful effect, but it was sucking up 25% of my G4's processor (867 PB). Is that typical? Does anyone know how that would compare to a similar animation in Flash? Todd I guess one can´t compare this. As far as I know you will always display the flash animation in a window. No shapes for flash movies. (Even though I might be wrong there) If you would leave out setting the windowshape in Rev CPU usage would drop enormously. All the best, Malte___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Blowing in the Wind
Recently, Todd Higgins wrote: I was able to get it play smoothly in the 2.6 Revolution Dreamcard Player. It is a beautiful effect, but it was sucking up 25% of my G4's processor (867 PB). Is that typical? This is true for almost any animation/messages that run in intervals less than 1 second. The more messages you have, and the more frequently you send them, the more processor time is consumed. What is interesting is that the related construct wait until condition with messages appears to consume little or no additional processor time, but accomplishes the same result. I've asked about this on the list before but never saw any official response from the rev folks. Wait with messages *appears* to be a less processor intensive technique, but the drawback is you cannot edit the script while the wait is executing. Does anyone know how that would compare to a similar animation in Flash? In a standard window there would be no overhead at all -- it would simply be animation. Last I looked (which was some time ago), I didn't see any way to *dynamically change* the window mask of a movie. I know you can apply a custom window shape to a standalone application, but I'm not familiar with any way to dynamically change the mask while the movie is running (though there may be a way). Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Blowing in the Wind
Thanks, Scott. A superb effect - what seems to me particularly weird is to have it billowing smoothly as I read the emails about it! On 16 Aug 2005, at 22:07, Scott Rossi wrote: Greetings List: For those of you who were unable to attend my presentation at RevConWest, I showed some experiments with one of Rev's newest features: deep masks. One of the nice things about this feature is the ability of Rev to cache the current window shape before switching to new shape. This effectively allows you to smoothly change shape of a window without it briefly disappearing or flashing -- in essence creating an animated stack. Today I came across a flag animation on the 'net and, just to see if it would work, I tried applying the animation to the windowShape of a stack. The result is a stack that whose shape and surface ripples as if blown in a light breeze. Execute the following in your message box: go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/breeze.rev; This stack is about 600K so give it a minute to download (you should be able to drag the stack around your desktop as well). On my 667mHz laptop the result is pretty nice; your mileage may vary... Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Best wishes John [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Blowing in the Wind
Lovely :) Any chance of a Scottish Flag? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Blowing in the Wind
But I thought the wind was always blowing so strongly in Scotland that flags don't ripple, they just stand straight out. :-D Dan On Aug 17, 2005, at 5:21 AM, david bovill wrote: Lovely :) Any chance of a Scottish Flag? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Blowing in the Wind
actually, it's more like most european flags, flogged down the downpour ;( if you've been to Seattle, you know what i mean ;) ;) but this blowing stack really blows a lot of my expectations out of RunRev. It could do openGL if it really wanted too and in total transparency... just imagine the faces of the drulling developpers on other IDEs seeing this! cheers X -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Shafer Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 20:44 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Blowing in the Wind But I thought the wind was always blowing so strongly in Scotland that flags don't ripple, they just stand straight out. :-D Dan On Aug 17, 2005, at 5:21 AM, david bovill wrote: Lovely :) Any chance of a Scottish Flag? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Blowing in the Wind
Greetings List: For those of you who were unable to attend my presentation at RevConWest, I showed some experiments with one of Rev's newest features: deep masks. One of the nice things about this feature is the ability of Rev to cache the current window shape before switching to new shape. This effectively allows you to smoothly change shape of a window without it briefly disappearing or flashing -- in essence creating an animated stack. Today I came across a flag animation on the 'net and, just to see if it would work, I tried applying the animation to the windowShape of a stack. The result is a stack that whose shape and surface ripples as if blown in a light breeze. Execute the following in your message box: go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/breeze.rev; This stack is about 600K so give it a minute to download (you should be able to drag the stack around your desktop as well). On my 667mHz laptop the result is pretty nice; your mileage may vary... Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Blowing in the Wind
Show off.. (Though works great here on WinXP!) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Blowing in the Wind
On 8/16/05 4:07 PM, Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings List: For those of you who were unable to attend my presentation at RevConWest, I showed some experiments with one of Rev's newest features: deep masks. One of the nice things about this feature is the ability of Rev to cache the current window shape before switching to new shape. This effectively allows you to smoothly change shape of a window without it briefly disappearing or flashing -- in essence creating an animated stack. Today I came across a flag animation on the 'net and, just to see if it would work, I tried applying the animation to the windowShape of a stack. The result is a stack that whose shape and surface ripples as if blown in a light breeze. Execute the following in your message box: go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/breeze.rev; This stack is about 600K so give it a minute to download (you should be able to drag the stack around your desktop as well). On my 667mHz laptop the result is pretty nice; your mileage may vary... Very nice, Scott! You never cease to amaze me... and the code is so simple! :-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Blowing in the Wind
On 8/16/05 2:07 PM, Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (you should be able to drag the stack around your desktop as well) Almost every time, that worked. The other times, the click on the flag brought the application behind the flag to the front, so that the flag disappeared behind the other app's window. Why would Rev miss a click? Is that preventable? -- Dick ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Blowing in the Wind
Recently, Dick Kriesel wrote: (you should be able to drag the stack around your desktop as well) Almost every time, that worked. The other times, the click on the flag brought the application behind the flag to the front, so that the flag disappeared behind the other app's window. Why would Rev miss a click? Is that preventable? I noticed this as well. I might hazard a guess that the mouseclick is hitting the stack at the precise moment that the stack's mask is being updated, and maybe in between updates, the click is passed through to whatever is behind the stack. Perhaps the mask caching is more effective visually than physically... Mark W might be the best person to respond to this. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Blowing in the Wind
Dick... I saw that once, too. But I discovered I was in edit mode, not browse mode. COuld be? On Aug 16, 2005, at 2:22 PM, Dick Kriesel wrote: On 8/16/05 2:07 PM, Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (you should be able to drag the stack around your desktop as well) Almost every time, that worked. The other times, the click on the flag brought the application behind the flag to the front, so that the flag disappeared behind the other app's window. Why would Rev miss a click? Is that preventable? -- Dick ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ~~ Dan Shafer, Revolution Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.revolutionpros.com, Click My Stuff ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Blowing in the Wind
Scott You continue to amaze me. Very, very nice. ~~ Dan Shafer, Revolution Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.revolutionpros.com, Click My Stuff ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Blowing in the Wind
Beautiful under RR, flickers like mad under MC 2.6.1 On 16-Aug-05, at 4:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings List: For those of you who were unable to attend my presentation at RevConWest, I showed some experiments with one of Rev's newest features: deep masks. One of the nice things about this feature is the ability of Rev to cache the current window shape before switching to new shape. This effectively allows you to smoothly change shape of a window without it briefly disappearing or flashing -- in essence creating an animated stack. Today I came across a flag animation on the 'net and, just to see if it would work, I tried applying the animation to the windowShape of a stack. The result is a stack that whose shape and surface ripples as if blown in a light breeze. Execute the following in your message box: go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/breeze.rev; This stack is about 600K so give it a minute to download (you should be able to drag the stack around your desktop as well). On my 667mHz laptop the result is pretty nice; your mileage may vary... - JRV -- There are 10 kinds of people: those who understand binary, and those who don't ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Blowing in the Wind
On 8/16/05 8:25 PM, John Vokey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beautiful under RR, flickers like mad under MC 2.6.1 That's because MC 2.6.1 doesn't have support for deep masks... the MC engine that is under Revolution 2.6 (the one that uses deep masks) is 2.6.5. HTH, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Blowing in the Wind
Scott, Totally awesome, as they used to say. You must be from another planet...space ships aliens on your front yard every Halloween. There is a connection. Great stuff. ciao, sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Blowing in the Wind
Recently, sims wrote: You must be from another planet...space ships aliens on your front yard every Halloween. There is a connection. Shh... Klaatu Barata Nikto. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Blowing in the Wind
simply mind blowing... If only rev could paint that fast... cheers Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 17/08/2005 06:52:15: Recently, sims wrote: You must be from another planet...space ships aliens on your front yard every Halloween. There is a connection. Shh... Klaatu Barata Nikto. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
