Generic Invisibility Handler
(Moderator Note: My previous post from akrev...@gmail.com should be ignored or deleted. I mistakenly sent it from the wrong email. I'm very sorry.) Hello, I recently convinced my company to let me re-write our farm management software in RunRev. Part of my proposal for this was developing a module for this software within a week. Going from zero RevTalk/Revolution knowledge to programming a fairly large database application has really been fun (no sarcasm intended). But syntax (or lack thereof?) seems to be my biggest problem. I have a lot of controls that need to be made visible and invisible depending on the user-state of the application (updating a record, adding a record, viewing a record). I'm unsure how to use parameters with handlers in this one liner. on hideObject pObjectType, pObjectName set the invisible of pObjectType pObjectName to true end hideObject on showObject pObjectType, pObjectName set the invisible of pObjectType pObjectName to true end showObject Any suggestions on helping this RevNub get this sorted out? In your response, try to include how the params are used in handlers. Thank you so much in advance for your replies! Hoping Rev can make my job easier (I am very tired of ASP .NET), Andrew K. RJD Farm LLC ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Generic Invisibility Handler
Andrew, Welcome to the Revolution. You almost have it. Set the visible of object to true to make it visible Set the visible of object to false to make it invisible Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. On Feb 8, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: (Moderator Note: My previous post from akrev...@gmail.com should be ignored or deleted. I mistakenly sent it from the wrong email. I'm very sorry.) Hello, I recently convinced my company to let me re-write our farm management software in RunRev. Part of my proposal for this was developing a module for this software within a week. Going from zero RevTalk/Revolution knowledge to programming a fairly large database application has really been fun (no sarcasm intended). But syntax (or lack thereof?) seems to be my biggest problem. I have a lot of controls that need to be made visible and invisible depending on the user-state of the application (updating a record, adding a record, viewing a record). I'm unsure how to use parameters with handlers in this one liner. on hideObject pObjectType, pObjectName set the invisible of pObjectType pObjectName to true end hideObject on showObject pObjectType, pObjectName set the invisible of pObjectType pObjectName to true end showObject Any suggestions on helping this RevNub get this sorted out? In your response, try to include how the params are used in handlers. Thank you so much in advance for your replies! Hoping Rev can make my job easier (I am very tired of ASP .NET), Andrew K. RJD Farm LLC ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Generic Invisibility Handler
You can always use: show pObjectName and hide pObjectName :D On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Bill Vlahos bvla...@mac.com wrote: Andrew, Welcome to the Revolution. You almost have it. Set the visible of object to true to make it visible Set the visible of object to false to make it invisible Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. On Feb 8, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: (Moderator Note: My previous post from akrev...@gmail.com should be ignored or deleted. I mistakenly sent it from the wrong email. I'm very sorry.) Hello, I recently convinced my company to let me re-write our farm management software in RunRev. Part of my proposal for this was developing a module for this software within a week. Going from zero RevTalk/Revolution knowledge to programming a fairly large database application has really been fun (no sarcasm intended). But syntax (or lack thereof?) seems to be my biggest problem. I have a lot of controls that need to be made visible and invisible depending on the user-state of the application (updating a record, adding a record, viewing a record). I'm unsure how to use parameters with handlers in this one liner. on hideObject pObjectType, pObjectName set the invisible of pObjectType pObjectName to true end hideObject on showObject pObjectType, pObjectName set the invisible of pObjectType pObjectName to true end showObject Any suggestions on helping this RevNub get this sorted out? In your response, try to include how the params are used in handlers. Thank you so much in advance for your replies! Hoping Rev can make my job easier (I am very tired of ASP .NET), Andrew K. RJD Farm LLC ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Generic Invisibility Handler
To toggle from hidden to visible use: set the visible of fld 1 to not the visible of fld 1 --- On Mon, 2/8/10, Andrew Kluthe and...@rjdfarm.com wrote: From: Andrew Kluthe and...@rjdfarm.com Subject: Generic Invisibility Handler To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 11:14 AM (Moderator Note: My previous post from akrev...@gmail.com should be ignored or deleted. I mistakenly sent it from the wrong email. I'm very sorry.) Hello, I recently convinced my company to let me re-write our farm management software in RunRev. Part of my proposal for this was developing a module for this software within a week. Going from zero RevTalk/Revolution knowledge to programming a fairly large database application has really been fun (no sarcasm intended). But syntax (or lack thereof?) seems to be my biggest problem. I have a lot of controls that need to be made visible and invisible depending on the user-state of the application (updating a record, adding a record, viewing a record). I'm unsure how to use parameters with handlers in this one liner. on hideObject pObjectType, pObjectName set the invisible of pObjectType pObjectName to true end hideObject on showObject pObjectType, pObjectName set the invisible of pObjectType pObjectName to true end showObject Any suggestions on helping this RevNub get this sorted out? In your response, try to include how the params are used in handlers. Thank you so much in advance for your replies! Hoping Rev can make my job easier (I am very tired of ASP .NET), Andrew K. RJD Farm LLC ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Generic Invisibility Handler
There are two ways to make a variable visible to a command or function. First, you can declare the variable as a global or script local. A global variable is one that is available to any handler that declares it, or optionally, to any script that declares it outside any handlers: on doSomething global myValue end doSomething on doSomethingElse global myValue end doSomethingElse The second way is to pass the value to the command or function: on doAnotherthing myValue -- some commands end doAnotherthing The globals or script locals are persistent while Revolution is running. The parameter is NOT persistent, in that as soon as doAnotherThing terminates, myValue is destroyed. You could make it a function: function doYetAnotherThing myValue -- do things that change myValue return myValue end doYetAnotherThing and then preserve myValue by putting the result of the function back into myValue: put doYetAnotherThing(myValue) into myValue Seems silly, but there you have it. The better way to do this without using a function is by declaring the parameter using the @ keyword (keychar??): on doOneLastThing @myValue -- some commands that change myValue end doOneLastThing in which case myValue will not be destroyed when doOneLastThing terminates, because the command was passed to the function as a variable and not the value. The calling program will see the change in myValue. That about sums it up. Globals and Script Locals are for persistence while Revolution is running. They are visible to whatever declares then, including ALL handlers in a script that declares it outside of any handler like so: local myValue -- or global if you want it to be visible by ALL handlers -- in ALL scripts in your stack or application on okayThisLastThing -- do something to the most used variable ever end okayThisLastThing Parameters are for passing values that get destroyed when the command or function terminates. Bob On Feb 8, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: Any suggestions on helping this RevNub get this sorted out? In your response, try to include how the params are used in handlers. Thank you so much in advance for your replies! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Generic Invisibility Handler
I am going to try this more elegant approach. I knew I should have dictionaried hide when it came up as yellow in my script editor. Thank you for your speedy help! -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Generic-Invisibility-Handler-tp1473182p1473253.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Generic Invisibility Handler
Andrew- Monday, February 8, 2010, 9:14:47 AM, you wrote: I'm unsure how to use parameters with handlers in this one liner. on hideObject pObjectType, pObjectName set the invisible of pObjectType pObjectName to true end hideObject on showObject pObjectType, pObjectName set the invisible of pObjectType pObjectName to true end showObject In addition to the other suggestions offered, I'd also like to add that if you're dealing with screen objects (buttons, fields, etc) then you probably don't need the pObjectType argument: on ShowHideObject pObjectName, pVisible set the visible of control pObjectName to pVisible end ShowHideObject -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Generic Invisibility Handler
Andrew- Monday, February 8, 2010, 9:14:47 AM, you wrote: I recently convinced my company to let me re-write our farm management software in RunRev. Part of my proposal for this was developing a module for this software within a week. ...and having done some farm management software in rev before, I'm of course quite interested in your project. Do keep us in the loop. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Generic Invisibility Handler
Thanks Mark! This list is so helpful! I don't know why I didn't use it before when trying to guess revTalk code and searching through the forums. We are a grain farm company in central Illinois and my predecessor built a farm management app in ASP .NET using Ironspeed Developer. Maintaining his code and adding additional functionality has been a nightmare, so when challenged by my supervisor to explore writing Iphone apps I came across RunRev. So far in a matter of days, I have just about wrote a client app for the Lease Management part of our current web app. I am very impressed with revolutions capabilities for quick development. We intend to use this software for managing leases on land and machinery, putting out/tracking work orders in the field, asset management, FSA material management, Inventory, Repair orders, Loan payments, etc. I am beginning a complete rewrite of our current web app into Rev. A daunting task at the moment, but somehow easier than I imagined (the already heavily populated database does most of the work). This is my second full week developing in Rev. The first week was spent writing database handlers. This week I am going to figure out how to manipulate alot of the controls I need via scripting. I am troubled by the lack of books out there on the subject, and am looking to increase my skill set as quickly as possible. Thank you all for your speedy responses. -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Generic-Invisibility-Handler-tp1473182p1473290.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Generic Invisibility Handler
Andrew, screw the elegence. Try this: Make 3 flds: fld uno -- just to test visibility fld dos -- just to test visibility --- fld visibility In fld visibility put the following text: This is fld visibility record_update, show fld uno record_update, show fld dos - record_change, hide fld uno record_change, hide fld dos --- --- finished with fld visibility --- This fld holds your list of all the actions that will trigger some visibility change -- this is a handy item to have around anyway, and easy to change. Now for a couple of btns: btn record_update has the following script: on mouseUp put fld visibility into v filter v with *update* -- chooses all the update lines set the itemDelimiter to comma repeat for each line cur_line in v do item 2 of cur_line -- performs the show or the hide end repeat end mouseUp btn record_change has the following script: on mouseUp put fld visibility into v filter v with *change* set the itemDelimiter to comma repeat for each line cur_line in v do item 2 of cur_line end repeat end mouseUp -- when an update or a change occurs then send a mouseUp to the correct btn --- Now you have a nice list of actions that you can change easily. You also have some btns to click on to simulate a record_change or a record_update. When everything is working o.k. you can hide the btns and the fld. Just as a warning. I'm probably the worst programmer who frequents this forum. So you might want to heed the experts. Good luck on your project. I checked out your website and it looks great. Mike --- On Mon, 2/8/10, Andrew Kluthe and...@rjdfarm.com wrote: From: Andrew Kluthe and...@rjdfarm.com Subject: Generic Invisibility Handler To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 11:14 AM (Moderator Note: My previous post from akrev...@gmail.com should be ignored or deleted. I mistakenly sent it from the wrong email. I'm very sorry.) Hello, I recently convinced my company to let me re-write our farm management software in RunRev. Part of my proposal for this was developing a module for this software within a week. Going from zero RevTalk/Revolution knowledge to programming a fairly large database application has really been fun (no sarcasm intended). But syntax (or lack thereof?) seems to be my biggest problem. I have a lot of controls that need to be made visible and invisible depending on the user-state of the application (updating a record, adding a record, viewing a record). I'm unsure how to use parameters with handlers in this one liner. on hideObject pObjectType, pObjectName set the invisible of pObjectType pObjectName to true end hideObject on showObject pObjectType, pObjectName set the invisible of pObjectType pObjectName to true end showObject Any suggestions on helping this RevNub get this sorted out? In your response, try to include how the params are used in handlers. Thank you so much in advance for your replies! Hoping Rev can make my job easier (I am very tired of ASP .NET), Andrew K. RJD Farm LLC ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Generic Invisibility Handler
Which, at least as of 5 or 6 years ago, I was assured did NOT work in Lingo/Director :-P Judy On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, Andre Garzia wrote: You can always use: show pObjectName and hide pObjectName :D On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Bill Vlahos bvla...@mac.com wrote: Andrew, Welcome to the Revolution. You almost have it. Set the visible of object to true to make it visible Set the visible of object to false to make it invisible Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. On Feb 8, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: (Moderator Note: My previous post from akrev...@gmail.com should be ignored or deleted. I mistakenly sent it from the wrong email. I'm very sorry.) Hello, I recently convinced my company to let me re-write our farm management software in RunRev. Part of my proposal for this was developing a module for this software within a week. Going from zero RevTalk/Revolution knowledge to programming a fairly large database application has really been fun (no sarcasm intended). But syntax (or lack thereof?) seems to be my biggest problem. I have a lot of controls that need to be made visible and invisible depending on the user-state of the application (updating a record, adding a record, viewing a record). I'm unsure how to use parameters with handlers in this one liner. on hideObject pObjectType, pObjectName set the invisible of pObjectType pObjectName to true end hideObject on showObject pObjectType, pObjectName set the invisible of pObjectType pObjectName to true end showObject Any suggestions on helping this RevNub get this sorted out? In your response, try to include how the params are used in handlers. Thank you so much in advance for your replies! Hoping Rev can make my job easier (I am very tired of ASP .NET), Andrew K. RJD Farm LLC ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Generic Invisibility Handler
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Andrew Kluthe and...@rjdfarm.com wrote: I am troubled by the lack of books out there on the subject, and am looking to increase my skill set as quickly as possible. Thank you all for your speedy responses. Andrew, I think maybe you have not realised that there is a 400 page User Manual included with your installation as a PDF file. From the IDE top menu choose 'Resource Center'. Once that is launched choose 'User Guide' from the left menu of that stack. After that click on the 'Launch PDF' button in the bottom right hand corner. I would think that is the first place to start learning Rev. When I first started out with Revolution I bought a couple of old books on Hypercard (the precursor of Rev). I wouldn't think they provide any benefit these days, and would be almost impossible to find anyway. So, don't let it worry you that there are no 3rd party books on Rev. I'd say that they're not needed and the old books are probably as much of a hindrance as a help. When I started out learning Apple's WebObjects I bought every single book on it, and even after reading them all multiple times, it was only after years of working with it that I finally grasped how to properly use it all. I could say the same for many other technologies, where often it's necessary to have a 800 page book just to find out how to use the IDE (I'm looking at you, Eclipse). In addition to the User Guide, it may also pay dividends to buy the DVD of the 2009 conference: https://secure.runrev.com/store/browse/?product=RVSLRVLV09DVD I haven't seen the above myself yet, so I can't verify that the audio-visual quality is suitable for learning details. Until we hear about the quality of the DVDs from someone else, you could browse the newsletter archive: http://www.runrev.com/developers/resources/newsletters/ I've learned things from those newsletters that I would never have dreamed were possible. You might also want to look at the scripting conferences: http://www.runrev.com/developers/lessons-and-tutorials/tutorials/online-scripting-conferences/ Those conferences were the inspiration and hard work of some of the gifted people who provide us with help on this list and in the forum. You've already discovered the forum, and this list. When I started out with Rev 8 years ago, we had none of the above, just this list! And of course, there is the Nabble archive of this list. I find that with most things I can find the answer a) in the dictionary or b) by searching this list. I think there are many, many great resources for learning Rev. I might carp on about some deficiencies in Rev myself, but I have to applaud the efforts RunRev have gone to when it comes to providing information and training material. Hope that helps you beyond this immediate problem that everyone else is helping you with. Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Generic Invisibility Handler
I am troubled by the lack of books out there on the subject, and am looking to increase my skill set as quickly as possible. Thank you all for your speedy responses. We did have one person who tried to do a book, but the product is evolving so fast that the life cycle of a book just can't keep up. But as Bernard says, the scripting conferences, newsletters this list are the best resource. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
