Re: More cross-platform info needed - menus
Sarah, It is my experience that if a preference area holds selection options for a particular tool or aspect of a document then "Options" is used as a preference menu item. Microsoft Word uses a "Properties" menu for the document properties and an "Options" menu for Tool settings. Revolution uses Edit Menu - Preferences Both MS Office and Revolution use File - Exit and not Quit. I have seen many other configurations but these seem standard. Tom On May 15, 2006, at 4:17 AM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: Thanks Chris & Scott. I'll struggle on with this, but expect more confusion to come as I try to come to grips with all the little differences :-) Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lazy River Software - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com Lazy River Metal Art™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/metal.html Meeting Wear - http://www.cafepress.com/meetingwear Semantic Compaction Systems - http://www.minspeak.com SCIconics, LLC - http://www.sciconics.com/sciindex.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: More cross-platform info needed - menus
Scott Kane wrote: Hi Sarah, Mac users expect a "Quit" with the shortcut Command-Q. I think I am correct in thinking that Windows users expect "Exit". Yes. You are right. Windows users do expect that. There two types of shortcuts though. some programmers use alt + e and most use alt + x. Not sure I would agree with that recommendation. As far as I know, on Windows the Alt + char shortcuts should follow the Menu, so you would (usually) have the first menu item be File, and the last entry within that be Exit - and hence an exit shortcut would be most often Alt-F + Alt-X but I think I have seen Alt-F + Alt-E. If there are additional, single key shortcuts, they *usually* use the Ctrl key. The MS GUI guidelines say that "CTRL+letter combinations and function keys F!-F12 are usually the best choices". (see URL below); there is no required or recommended shortcut for program exit. I most often see Ctrl-Q, sometime Ctrl-E and never Ctrl-X (since that's the standard shortcut for "Cut to clipboard"). There are some programs that use single-letter Alt-char shortcuts, indeed some that use Alt-X or Alt-E for exit, but I suspect those are ports from other systems - but the guidelines recommend against it. MS has an excellent document about this - worth taking an hour or two to read it - http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnacc/html/ATG_KeyboardShortcuts.asp The alt + F4 is a standard Windows sequence and applied to any window (modal, document etc). The system performs the alt+F4 for you unless you code it to bypass this (not recommended). I second that. Preferences: Preferences does fine. Others used are "Program Settings", "User Settings" - heaps of them really. I'd stick with Preferences... Option is more common Win than Preferences - -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/339 - Release Date: 14/05/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: More cross-platform info needed - menus
Thanks Chris & Scott. I'll struggle on with this, but expect more confusion to come as I try to come to grips with all the little differences :-) Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: More cross-platform info needed - menus
Hi Sarah, > Mac users expect a "Quit" with the shortcut Command-Q. > I think I am correct in thinking that Windows users expect "Exit". Yes. You are right. Windows users do expect that. There two types of shortcuts though. some programmers use alt + e and most use alt + x. The alt + F4 is a standard Windows sequence and applied to any window (modal, document etc). The system performs the alt+F4 for you unless you code it to bypass this (not recommended). > Preferences: Preferences does fine. Others used are "Program Settings", "User Settings" - heaps of them really. I'd stick with Preferences... I'm not a Linux person - though I found Mandrake (now Mandriva) to be pretty good for my purposes. Scott -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/339 - Release Date: 14/05/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: More cross-platform info needed - menus
On Mon, 15 May 2006 08:51:42 +1000, Sarah Reichelt wrote: > Hi All, > > I usually have the luxury of being completely Mac, but now I have an > application that has to be Mac, Windows & Linux, so you can expect a > few stupid questions while I struggle with this. Today's question is > about menus and what to call things. > > Mac users expect a "Quit" with the shortcut Command-Q. > I think I am correct in thinking that Windows users expect "Exit". The > only shortcut seems to be Alt-F4. Is this a system thing or do I have > to trap the function keys and check for this? > What is the Linux quitting command called and what is it's shortcut?. > > Preferences: Mac users use "Preferences", Windows programs seem to > have lots of different terms for this. Is there a preferred standard > or can I just use Preferences for both Mac & Windows? What do Linux > people expect this to be called? > > One more question: what is a good Linux distribution to use for testing? > > Thanks, > Sarah Hi Sarah, Quit with Ctrl-Q. As an aside, in the darker days, some os's used quit to abandon changes and exit to file them. Preferences is preferences. Ubuntu is the hot distribution. Easy install, good software selection and easy to maintain. Chris ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
More cross-platform info needed - menus
Hi All, I usually have the luxury of being completely Mac, but now I have an application that has to be Mac, Windows & Linux, so you can expect a few stupid questions while I struggle with this. Today's question is about menus and what to call things. Mac users expect a "Quit" with the shortcut Command-Q. I think I am correct in thinking that Windows users expect "Exit". The only shortcut seems to be Alt-F4. Is this a system thing or do I have to trap the function keys and check for this? What is the Linux quitting command called and what is it's shortcut?. Preferences: Mac users use "Preferences", Windows programs seem to have lots of different terms for this. Is there a preferred standard or can I just use Preferences for both Mac & Windows? What do Linux people expect this to be called? One more question: what is a good Linux distribution to use for testing? Thanks, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
