Re: OMG!!!! Steve Jobs is launching the iPhone and it runs MacOS X.

2007-01-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yer a crazy GNUt!!!


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now that there is a 'smaller' version of OS X , I wonder if the releases 
will be named something like: Tabby, Calico, and Persian.  :-)  Or, with 
the new company name change, the new releases could be different varieties 
of apple. I'm looking forward to Granny Smith (aka 11.0.0).


Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: OMG!!!! Steve Jobs is launching the iPhone and it runs MacOS X.

2007-01-11 Thread Peter T. Evensen
Actually, Intel is saying it is NOT providing the processor and this 
article says it is Samsung:


http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2007/1/10/6569

At 04:34 PM 1/9/2007, you wrote:

I've got my fingers crossed but if Apple opens up the iPhone to apps 
other than widgets I will be in heaven.  Especially if we can get access 
to the GPS data to determine where folks are.


--
Trevor DeVore


My guess is that there will have to be a special developer track at the 
WWDC to cover iPhone applications.


Also the keyboardless capability is interesting in that Apple is probably 
using the iPhone to open up a whole new category of devices including 
larger handheld computers that do not have keyboards but have larger screens.


Either way, developing in Rev is the way to go as opposed to using XCode.

Oh yes, I did find out on an article that the iPhone runs on an unknown 
Intel processor. So that means that we can probably already generate 
applications for it. http://techdigest.tv/2007/01/apple_iphone_th_1.html



Jesse
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Re: OMG!!!! Steve Jobs is launching the iPhone and it runs MacOS X.

2007-01-11 Thread Roger . E . Eller
Now that there is a 'smaller' version of OS X , I wonder if the releases 
will be named something like: Tabby, Calico, and Persian.  :-)  Or, with 
the new company name change, the new releases could be different varieties 
of apple. I'm looking forward to Granny Smith (aka 11.0.0).

Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: OMG!!!! Steve Jobs is launching the iPhone and it runs MacOS X.

2007-01-10 Thread Trevor DeVore

On Jan 9, 2007, at 2:46 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote:


On Jan 9, 2007, at 2:30 PM, chris bohnert wrote:

Did I miss a spec?  Does the phone actually have GPS or are you  
referring to
the time differencing data that most carriers use to triangulate a  
phones

location?


I thought I heard that Google Maps knew where you were on the  
iPhone so I assumed that some sort of GPS data was available.


I watched the iPhone presentation last night and noticed when talking  
about Google Maps that Steve started at the Moscone center using a  
saved location.  I think the live coverage I was reading mistakingly  
thought that Google Maps knew the actual location.


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Re: OMG!!!! Steve Jobs is launching the iPhone and it runs MacOS X.

2007-01-10 Thread Jerry J

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



By this time next year the iPhone may even bake bread.
Paul Looney


As Ralph Kramden once said: Will it core a apple?

Cheer,
Jerry Jensen

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OMG!!!! Steve Jobs is launching the iPhone and it runs MacOS X.

2007-01-09 Thread Andre Garzia

Folks,

I must say, I am amazed reading about macworld keynote... Steve is  
releasing the iPhone, full multitouch screen, no keys, running MacOS  
X... we need to get Revolution engine on this!!!


Andre

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Re: OMG!!!! Steve Jobs is launching the iPhone and it runs MacOS X.

2007-01-09 Thread Devin Asay

On Jan 9, 2007, at 11:52 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:


Folks,

I must say, I am amazed reading about macworld keynote... Steve is  
releasing the iPhone, full multitouch screen, no keys, running  
MacOS X... we need to get Revolution engine on this!!!


It apparently can run standard Dashboard widgets. Does anyone know,  
is it possible to produce Dashboard widgets in Rev? My understanding  
is that creating a widget is more a matter of configuring the app's  
plist correctly and including some needed resources, than of which  
development environment you use.


Devin


Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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Re: OMG!!!! Steve Jobs is launching the iPhone and it runs MacOS X.

2007-01-09 Thread Dan Shafer

Widgets are standalone components that run in a base runtime and can execute
JavaScript, HTML and at least some XML. The only sense in which I can easily
SEE Rev being used is to spit out the JavaScript/XML/HTML code to be used in
the Widget. IOW, perhaps a Widget builder could be created in Rev. Chipp and
I discussed this on and off a while back but didn't see a market.

Dan

On 1/9/07, Devin Asay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Jan 9, 2007, at 11:52 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:

 Folks,

 I must say, I am amazed reading about macworld keynote... Steve is
 releasing the iPhone, full multitouch screen, no keys, running
 MacOS X... we need to get Revolution engine on this!!!

It apparently can run standard Dashboard widgets. Does anyone know,
is it possible to produce Dashboard widgets in Rev? My understanding
is that creating a widget is more a matter of configuring the app's
plist correctly and including some needed resources, than of which
development environment you use.

Devin


Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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Re: OMG!!!! Steve Jobs is launching the iPhone and it runs MacOS X.

2007-01-09 Thread Trevor DeVore

On Jan 9, 2007, at 11:28 AM, Dan Shafer wrote:

Widgets are standalone components that run in a base runtime and  
can execute
JavaScript, HTML and at least some XML. The only sense in which I  
can easily
SEE Rev being used is to spit out the JavaScript/XML/HTML code to  
be used in
the Widget. IOW, perhaps a Widget builder could be created in Rev.  
Chipp and

I discussed this on and off a while back but didn't see a market.


Apple already has a dev tool in beta (Dashcode) for Widgets so  
someone should check that out before they ventured into creating  
their own.  You can get access to it with a free ADC developer account.



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Re: OMG!!!! Steve Jobs is launching the iPhone and it runs MacOS X.

2007-01-09 Thread Dan Shafer

Yeah, and there are other tools out there for this purpose as well, I think.

Dan

On 1/9/07, Trevor DeVore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Jan 9, 2007, at 11:28 AM, Dan Shafer wrote:

 Widgets are standalone components that run in a base runtime and
 can execute
 JavaScript, HTML and at least some XML. The only sense in which I
 can easily
 SEE Rev being used is to spit out the JavaScript/XML/HTML code to
 be used in
 the Widget. IOW, perhaps a Widget builder could be created in Rev.
 Chipp and
 I discussed this on and off a while back but didn't see a market.

Apple already has a dev tool in beta (Dashcode) for Widgets so
someone should check that out before they ventured into creating
their own.  You can get access to it with a free ADC developer account.


--
Trevor DeVore
Blue Mango Learning Systems - www.bluemangolearning.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: OMG!!!! Steve Jobs is launching the iPhone and it runs MacOS X.

2007-01-09 Thread Jesse Sng


Apple already has a dev tool in beta (Dashcode) for Widgets so 
someone should check that out before they ventured into creating 
their own.  You can get access to it with a free ADC developer 
account.


--
Trevor DeVore


The bigger implication here is that the iPhone runs on a version of 
OS X. That means that there's the possibility of us creating Apps for 
the iPhone via Revolution. You don't even need Widgets.


Phone apps are one category, but there's also the internet enabled 
iPhone apps which is where Rev apps on the Mac desktop excelled in 
previously. Couple that with database iPhone apps which are connected 
over the internet via either Wi-Fi or EDGE and things get exciting - 
think of even corporate apps or apps that previously required a PDA 
with wireless comms that can now be replaced by Rev apps running on 
the iPhone using a finger gesture user interface.


Also it would seem from the way Safari is running on the iPhone that 
there is some resolution independence.


While we don't know what processor the iPhone is running on, it's 
probably not an Intel chip, so that means a different binary for the 
app.


It would be nice to ultimately have a way to build Rev apps on this 
device. It would sure be much easier compared to developing apps for 
the Palm.



Jesse Sng
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Re: OMG!!!! Steve Jobs is launching the iPhone and it runs MacOS X.

2007-01-09 Thread Trevor DeVore

On Jan 9, 2007, at 1:46 PM, Jesse Sng wrote:

Apple already has a dev tool in beta (Dashcode) for Widgets so  
someone should check that out before they ventured into creating  
their own.  You can get access to it with a free ADC developer  
account.


The bigger implication here is that the iPhone runs on a version of  
OS X. That means that there's the possibility of us creating Apps  
for the iPhone via Revolution. You don't even need Widgets.


I've got my fingers crossed but if Apple opens up the iPhone to apps  
other than widgets I will be in heaven.  Especially if we can get  
access to the GPS data to determine where folks are.


--
Trevor DeVore
Blue Mango Learning Systems - www.bluemangolearning.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: OMG!!!! Steve Jobs is launching the iPhone and it runs MacOS X.

2007-01-09 Thread chris bohnert

Did I miss a spec?  Does the phone actually have GPS or are you referring to
the time differencing data that most carriers use to triangulate a phones
location?

--
cb

On 1/9/07, Trevor DeVore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Jan 9, 2007, at 1:46 PM, Jesse Sng wrote:

 Apple already has a dev tool in beta (Dashcode) for Widgets so
 someone should check that out before they ventured into creating
 their own.  You can get access to it with a free ADC developer
 account.

 The bigger implication here is that the iPhone runs on a version of
 OS X. That means that there's the possibility of us creating Apps
 for the iPhone via Revolution. You don't even need Widgets.

I've got my fingers crossed but if Apple opens up the iPhone to apps
other than widgets I will be in heaven.  Especially if we can get
access to the GPS data to determine where folks are.

--
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Blue Mango Learning Systems - www.bluemangolearning.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: OMG!!!! Steve Jobs is launching the iPhone and it runs MacOS X.

2007-01-09 Thread Jesse Sng


I've got my fingers crossed but if Apple opens up the iPhone to apps 
other than widgets I will be in heaven.  Especially if we can get 
access to the GPS data to determine where folks are.


--
Trevor DeVore


My guess is that there will have to be a special developer track at 
the WWDC to cover iPhone applications.


Also the keyboardless capability is interesting in that Apple is 
probably using the iPhone to open up a whole new category of devices 
including larger handheld computers that do not have keyboards but 
have larger screens.


Either way, developing in Rev is the way to go as opposed to using XCode.

Oh yes, I did find out on an article that the iPhone runs on an 
unknown Intel processor. So that means that we can probably already 
generate applications for it. 
http://techdigest.tv/2007/01/apple_iphone_th_1.html



Jesse
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Re: OMG!!!! Steve Jobs is launching the iPhone and it runs MacOS X.

2007-01-09 Thread Trevor DeVore

On Jan 9, 2007, at 2:30 PM, chris bohnert wrote:

Did I miss a spec?  Does the phone actually have GPS or are you  
referring to
the time differencing data that most carriers use to triangulate a  
phones

location?


I thought I heard that Google Maps knew where you were on the iPhone  
so I assumed that some sort of GPS data was available.


--
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Blue Mango Learning Systems - www.bluemangolearning.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: OMG!!!! Steve Jobs is launching the iPhone and it runs MacOS X.

2007-01-09 Thread SimPLsol
I believe the GPS is just one of the phone protocols, used by Cingular, 
Vodaphone and most others worldwide. It is not the same as a Global Positioning 
System. For example, my Cingular Motorola Razr uses a GPS chip but does no 
mapping or locating.
However, it's certainly conceivable that such a unit could be added to the 
iPhone, using the iPhone display.
By this time next year the iPhone may even bake bread.
Paul Looney
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Re: OMG!!!! Steve Jobs is launching the iPhone and it runs MacOS X.

2007-01-09 Thread Ian Wood
A pointer towards the iPhone running a relatively 'full' version of  
OS X - go to the streaming QT of the iPhone presentation at http:// 
events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/.


From 8:30 to about 9:30 he talks about it using OS X, with a slide  
in the background showing


Syncing
Networking
Multi-tasking
Low power
Security
Video
Cocoa
Core Animation
Graphics
Audio

And he goes on to mention Core Animation specifically.

On the other hand, there are rumours floating around that Apple  
employees at the show are saying that it will be a closed platform. :-(


Ian
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