Re: [OT] Wireless remote events? - resolved
Alejandro Tejada wrote: Michael J. Lew proposed, some time ago, to create such tool with RR/MC. Do you think that it'll be possible to create a site that holds the progress of some RR jointed development projects, similar to SourceForge? Alejandro - would you like to work on this with anyone else who volunteers? I'm in. I'll like that more developers work with the handlers that export to pdf... I will work on this with you between now and Xmas as I need to add these capabilites (and SVG export). I think maybe they could be combined into a graphics import / export format library? This will not be possible without a central place to put all the projects, in a single site, where all developers become aware of the state of development in every project. Yes. I've also done some work on how to integrate such a site with a versioning backend (CVS or subversion), and if you want to contact me on or off list - let's go ahead and do it? ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Wireless remote events? - resolved
on Wed, 29 Sep 2004 Richard Gaskin wrote: With so many Rev conferences this year I keep daydreaming that someone will start an open source presentation tool and runtime library in Transcript. Any chance we could toss one together in time to make all of our presentations for Malta? :) Michael J. Lew proposed, some time ago, to create such tool with RR/MC. Do you think that it'll be possible to create a site that holds the progress of some RR jointed development projects, similar to SourceForge? In that way developers could CHOOSE to contribute hours of their scarse time to help in the advance of some project of their interest. I'll liked that developers in the SuperCard platform port the handlers for importing Adobe ilustrator files to their platform. But, that has not happened yet. I'll like that more developers work with the handlers that export to pdf... This will not be possible without a central place to put all the projects, in a single site, where all developers become aware of the state of development in every project. just a thought... al = Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Wireless remote events? - resolved
Richard Gaskin wrote: I picked up a Kensington Wireless Presentation Remote today in hopes of using it when presenting at Rev seminars like http://techietours.com. But while Kensington normally makes pretty good stuff, the manual only says Works with most presentation software like PowerPoint and Keynote, and it doesn't say what events it's sending. Since I make my own presentations in Rev I need to know what events it uses so I can write handlers for them. Here's the weird part: I made a fresh stack and put in rawKeyDown, rawKeyUp, appleEvent, arrowKey, functionKey, keyDown and keyUp handlers -- none of them get triggered when I try using the wireless device. Don't know why (probably just user error here), but today I tried rawKeyDown again and it works. Kinda fun. So it's really easy to write apps that support standard wireless presentation devices - Here's how the buttons match up to their keyboard equivalents on the Kensington model: laser pointer / [*] rawKeyDown 65365 - [] [] - rawKeyDown 65366 Key: Page DownKey: Page Up Action: Previous Slide [.] Action: Next Slide \ rawKeyDown 98 Key: b Action: Blank Screen Kensington says these are the standard controls that drive presentation apps, including Keynote and PowerPoint. It's nice to see reasonable conventions universally applied. Given all the hardware out there that supports these it may be useful to adopt them in your own software if you're making a presentation tool. With so many Rev conferences this year I keep daydreaming that someone will start an open source presentation tool and runtime library in Transcript. Any chance we could toss one together in time to make all of our presentations for Malta? :) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Wireless remote events? - resolved
Sounds like fun. If I ever get any free time again and feel bored, I might try it... It shouldn't be too hard. Create a stack with each slide on a different card, hide the title bar, hide the menu bar/dock, and set the stack so that it is centered with a size matching that of the screen. Scale the contents accordingly... Put those controls in a rawKeyDown handler in the stack script, and bingo? On Sep 29, 2004, at 2:45 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richard Gaskin wrote: I picked up a Kensington Wireless Presentation Remote today in hopes of using it when presenting at Rev seminars like http://techietours.com. But while Kensington normally makes pretty good stuff, the manual only says Works with most presentation software like PowerPoint and Keynote, and it doesn't say what events it's sending. Since I make my own presentations in Rev I need to know what events it uses so I can write handlers for them. Here's the weird part: I made a fresh stack and put in rawKeyDown, rawKeyUp, appleEvent, arrowKey, functionKey, keyDown and keyUp handlers -- none of them get triggered when I try using the wireless device. Don't know why (probably just user error here), but today I tried rawKeyDown again and it works. Kinda fun. So it's really easy to write apps that support standard wireless presentation devices - Here's how the buttons match up to their keyboard equivalents on the Kensington model: laser pointer / [*] rawKeyDown 65365 - [] [] - rawKeyDown 65366 Key: Page DownKey: Page Up Action: Previous Slide [.] Action: Next Slide \ rawKeyDown 98 Key: b Action: Blank Screen Kensington says these are the standard controls that drive presentation apps, including Keynote and PowerPoint. It's nice to see reasonable conventions universally applied. Given all the hardware out there that supports these it may be useful to adopt them in your own software if you're making a presentation tool. With so many Rev conferences this year I keep daydreaming that someone will start an open source presentation tool and runtime library in Transcript. Any chance we could toss one together in time to make all of our presentations for Malta? :) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Wireless remote events? - resolved
On Sep 29, 2004, at 11:45 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: With so many Rev conferences this year I keep daydreaming that someone will start an open source presentation tool and runtime library in Transcript. Any chance we could toss one together in time to make all of our presentations for Malta? :) Richard, I have been tossing around the idea of making my Presentation Generator app free as a marketing tool to drive more educators to my website. I would consider making the app open source if there would be interest in this from others. I wrote it many moons ago and it could use some updating, but the software works and does a good job of it. I have many ideas to make it better though. -- Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Wireless remote events? - resolved
Count me in. Tom On Sep 29, 2004, at 3:43 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: On Sep 29, 2004, at 11:45 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: With so many Rev conferences this year I keep daydreaming that someone will start an open source presentation tool and runtime library in Transcript. Any chance we could toss one together in time to make all of our presentations for Malta? :) Richard, I have been tossing around the idea of making my Presentation Generator app free as a marketing tool to drive more educators to my website. I would consider making the app open source if there would be interest in this from others. I wrote it many moons ago and it could use some updating, but the software works and does a good job of it. I have many ideas to make it better though. -- Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Wireless remote events? - resolved
I think there is some good documentation about this at SourceForge; you might want to check there. Basically, you pick a license, apply it to your code, and release it. CVS is one solution to manage multiple contributors to code, but it might not work too well with Rev files -- it was intended for C/Pascal/Java-type code, which consists of plain-text files. It chokes on binary files, like the ones used by Rev. Not sure what you'd use for Rev. On Sep 29, 2004, at 4:20 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: On Sep 29, 2004, at 1:01 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Count me in. Tom On Sep 29, 2004, at 3:43 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: On Sep 29, 2004, at 11:45 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: With so many Rev conferences this year I keep daydreaming that someone will start an open source presentation tool and runtime library in Transcript. Any chance we could toss one together in time to make all of our presentations for Malta? :) Richard, I have been tossing around the idea of making my Presentation Generator app free as a marketing tool to drive more educators to my website. I would consider making the app open source if there would be interest in this from others. I wrote it many moons ago and it could use some updating, but the software works and does a good job of it. I have many ideas to make it better though. I don't know anything about open sourcing a project. I suppose a license needs to be selected. Any suggestions? How do we manage each other's contributions without overwriting other's work? -- Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Wireless remote events? - resolved
Count me in - I've got some presentation stuff and a sourceforge account just waiting. I've got a presentation to do as well.:) Regarding the CVS stuff - I've wrapped CVS on linux in a bunch of shell code - so that it autosaves to CVS. Binaries won't take advantage of all of CVS features - so it's good to save some or all of the key bits out as text files. Scripts are obviously the key. I've got some code for exporting stacks to XML as a couple of others have which allows you to take full advantage of CVS. david Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote: I think there is some good documentation about this at SourceForge; you might want to check there. Basically, you pick a license, apply it to your code, and release it. CVS is one solution to manage multiple contributors to code, but it might not work too well with Rev files -- it was intended for C/Pascal/Java-type code, which consists of plain-text files. It chokes on binary files, like the ones used by Rev. Not sure what you'd use for Rev. On Sep 29, 2004, at 4:20 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: On Sep 29, 2004, at 1:01 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Count me in. Tom On Sep 29, 2004, at 3:43 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: On Sep 29, 2004, at 11:45 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: With so many Rev conferences this year I keep daydreaming that someone will start an open source presentation tool and runtime library in Transcript. Any chance we could toss one together in time to make all of our presentations for Malta? :) Richard, I have been tossing around the idea of making my Presentation Generator app free as a marketing tool to drive more educators to my website. I would consider making the app open source if there would be interest in this from others. I wrote it many moons ago and it could use some updating, but the software works and does a good job of it. I have many ideas to make it better though. I don't know anything about open sourcing a project. I suppose a license needs to be selected. Any suggestions? How do we manage each other's contributions without overwriting other's work? -- Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Wireless remote events? - resolved
Mark Talluto wrote: I don't know anything about open sourcing a project. I suppose a license needs to be selected. Any suggestions? How do we manage each other's contributions without overwriting other's work? The technical aspects are simple. The hard part is the sociological side of the workflow. :) Managing teamwork can be simple or complex depending on team size. With the MC IDE project we have fewer than a dozen contributors, and find that simply communicating via the MC discussion list works fine. Feature requests are posted there, and when approved an owner for that task is identified and we all know not to monkey with those parts until the next build. Changes are sent to the project manager (currently me), preferably as cloned out stack files. It's easy to delete the originals from the master copy and clone the stack files in as substacks, and then it gets posted for testing. Because of the simplicity of the workflow, the MC IDE project (and other open source Rev projects like libIPC) can be hosted at Yahoo Groups, since all we really need is a simple place for folks to download builds. If there's a lot of activity and a larger number of contributors, you could consider making your own check-in/check-out system to handle such things. Ken made one in an afternoon for a project he's working on, and I've been tempted to make one for the MC IDE project but just haven't needed it (it would take more time than simply managing it by hand does now). If you're interested in a more complete implementation, Chipp's made a great one with MagicCarpet: http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/MagicCarpetCover/default.htm Some folks like CVS, and while it's great at what it does it's really designed for old-school development workflows involving hundreds of tiny text files. IMHO, with Rev's object model teamwork is best factored along stacks and substacks, and anything more granular just opens up a lot of opportunities for poor factoring and less productive team management. With Rev's built-in FTP and HTTP and the clone command it's not hard to automate stack management if needed. That's the simple stuff; it's the social stuff is where it gets complex. But that's a whole other discussion :) PS - About licenses: I really like the X11 license for a great many reasons that would only take this thread further OT if explored here. Feel free to give me a call or we can discuss it at the next SoCal RUG meeting. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Wireless remote events? - resolved
Richards comments are pretty spot on IMO Richard Gaskin wrote: Some folks like CVS, and while it's great at what it does it's really designed for old-school development workflows involving hundreds of tiny text files. I like CVS for this reason. I can go to another computer do a cvs checkout and I get the entire development environment with not just Rev stacks but all the html files etc - hundred of them. Also deals with other code - php / python. But the main reason is unlimited undo. I auto-save every few minutes and if I screw up I can go back to anywhere in time. If I'd been doing this in 1988 with HyperCard this could be quite fun :) With Rev's built-in FTP and HTTP and the clone command it's not hard to automate stack management if needed. This is all you need if you are aiming to manage a dozen or so stacks. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
