Live Code owned by Microsoft (and others) ? [Was: Re: GOOSE BUMPS]
René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.com wrote: 8th in France ! 1st here* -- but it is a trademark of codelab ;- and their start page is definitevely hideous [pity for my eyes!] the third is: http://www.abstractmachine.net/thesis/diagrams.php?name=livecode the 7th: http://www.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-5568363-windows-live-code-d- erreure-a-l-aide the 9th: at last, http://www.runrev.com/home/product-family/ it seems that Live Code is a Windows thing!? * with the metasearch engine Ixquick Ixquick Protects Your Privacy http://eu.ixquick.com/eng/ known as StartPage in the USA http://www.startpage.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Live Code owned by Microsoft (and others) ? [Was: Re: GOOSE BUMPS]
Medard wrote: 1st here* -- but it is a trademark of codelab ;- In what country? The US Patent and Trademark Office shows two entries for livecode: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=tocstate=4005%3Acuudsn.1.1p_search=searchssp_L=50BackReference=p_plural=yesp_s_PARA1=p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LDexpr=PARA1+AND+PARA2p_s_PARA2=livecodep_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMBp_op_ALL=ANDa_default=searcha_search=Submit+Querya_search=Submit+Query The first is has a status of live, showing Runtime Revolution Ltd. as the mark registrant with a filing date of Aug 25 2010 in the domain of Computer application software for mobile phones and handheld devices, desktop computers and computer servers, namely, software for creating computer software or interactive content: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=docstate=4005:cuudsn.3.1 The second has a status of dead, and shows Applied Microsystems Corporation of Redmond, WA as the former mark registrant, first filed November 24, 1997 and canceled March 14, 2009: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=docstate=4005:cuudsn.3.2 -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Live Code owned by Microsoft (and others) ? [Was: Re: GOOSE BUMPS]
Please forgive the links in my last post. It seems the USPTO uses unnecessarily time-sensitive session IDs, so the URLs I provided won't work. In fact, I can't find a way to make a useful URL to even the search page, so here's how to get to it: 1. Go to: http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/index.jsp 2. Click the link labeled Basic Word Mark Search (New User) 3. Once on the Search page, type livecode in the field provided and that'll produce the list of results. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Live Code owned by Microsoft (and others) ? [Was: Re: GOOSE BUMPS]
On 01/10/2010 15:44, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Please forgive the links in my last post. It seems the USPTO uses unnecessarily time-sensitive session IDs, so the URLs I provided won't work. In fact, I can't find a way to make a useful URL to even the search page, so here's how to get to it: 1. Go to: http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/index.jsp 2. Click the link labeled Basic Word Mark Search (New User) 3. Once on the Search page, type livecode in the field provided and that'll produce the list of results. Folks, needless to say we did a proper trademark search before we chose the new name. We're satisfied there isn't a conflict. No need for a debate on here, thanks. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode - Realize fast, compile-free coding ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Live Code owned by Microsoft (and others) ? [Was: Re: GOOSE BUMPS]
Please forgive the links in my last post. It seems the USPTO uses unnecessarily time-sensitive session IDs, so the URLs I provided won't work. I hope some patent troll has a patent on their time sensitive session ID system and rolls them for it - let them have a taste ;-) Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Hi all, Congratulations to Kevin and the Team for this new name! Many years ago, i expressed to them my concern about the name Revolution that has too many meanings attached. It was almost impossible to position this product in the mind of user, without finding a previous meaning which struggle for salience. http://www.ries.com/articles-positioningera.php By the way, when this thread started some days ago, i searched for livecode in google and runrev webpage appears in 7th position. Today is 5th. This is really good. Way to go! :D Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/GOOSE-BUMPS-tp2546937p2550170.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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8th in France ! Le 22 sept. 2010 à 14:19, Alejandro Tejada a écrit : Hi all, Congratulations to Kevin and the Team for this new name! Many years ago, i expressed to them my concern about the name Revolution that has too many meanings attached. It was almost impossible to position this product in the mind of user, without finding a previous meaning which struggle for salience. http://www.ries.com/articles-positioningera.php By the way, when this thread started some days ago, i searched for livecode in google and runrev webpage appears in 7th position. Today is 5th. This is really good. Way to go! :D Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/GOOSE-BUMPS-tp2546937p2550170.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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By the way, Richmond should update this Wikipedia page with more recent information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RunRev Notice that his Wiki appears in the body of the article. Runtime Revolution contains a built-in help system. A wiki for user-authored documentation: richmondsrevolution.pbwiki.com. ;-) -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/GOOSE-BUMPS-tp2546937p2550202.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Alejandro Tejada wrote: http://www.ries.com/articles-positioningera.php Excellent article. Google, Yahoo, Twitter, even Kodak are all colossally stupid names; for the reasons that article points, out positioning is about far more than names. The product experience is what people buy, and what they talk about. This post from earlier this morning echoes perhaps the most frequently-cited challenge in learning LiveCode, and perhaps the biggest opportunity for enhancing the product experience and therefore its mindshare: http://mail.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2010-September/145768.html Programming languages are different from toasters or any other consumer product. They have unique challenges, and the size and scope of the ecosystem plays an uncommonly strong role in perceptions of a programming tool's worthiness. Developers need to know they don't have to reinvent every wheel. The more prefab components included in the out-of-the-box experience, the more empowering the tool will be. When sufficiently empowering, the buzz will take care of the branding organically; conversely, even the best branding in the world can't make up the difference if that empowerment is lacking. Branding can help lead to downloads, but only the product experience can lead to conversion. Mark Stuart raised some of these issues in our last local Rev User Group meeting, and I'm looking forward to exploring them further in our next one tomorrow night. For all the benefits of LiveCode, a few other tools still have some significant advantages in being able to assemble great data-rich GUIs quickly. We'd like to see what we can do to help close that gap, perhaps as a project through the Rev Interoperability Project (RIP). Here's one small corner of that problem: data input validation. A great many apps need it, but input masking and validation must currently be scripted by hand, while most DBs provide them as simple properties. One of the RIP initiatives is to provide a common behavior object that can be assigned to fields, set a property or two, and masking and validation would happen automatically. This initiative could use some help; most of us have been busy with our own products. If anyone here would like to lend a hand you're very welcome to join in: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/revInterop/ The code will be released as either public domain or MIT license, so this may be a good starting point for those interested in furthering FOSS goals in the LiveCode ecosystem, a relatively small task in which the process can be refined leading the way to bigger initiatives, and the output from which would be enormously valuable right now. By the way, when this thread started some days ago, i searched for livecode in google and runrev webpage appears in 7th position. Today is 5th. This is really good. If the prospect already knows your name and is sufficiently motivated to search for it, most of the job is already done and they will find you no matter what your name is: http://www.google.com/search?q=revolution+programming Search engine optimization is the challenge of helping people who don't yet know who you are to find you: http://www.google.com/search?q=rapid+application+development Relevant backlinks, keyword-based domains, domain longevity, appropriate keyword richness, and consistent keyword usage in backlinks help make that happen. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On 09/22/2010 03:39 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: By the way, Richmond should update this Wikipedia page with more recent information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RunRev Notice that his Wiki appears in the body of the article. Runtime Revolution contains a built-in help system. A wiki for user-authored documentation: richmondsrevolution.pbwiki.com. ;-) Quite frankly that project died a death quite a few years ago when there was insufficient uptake of editors and contributors. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Hi Richmond, Richmond Mathewson-2 wrote: Quite frankly that project died a death quite a few years ago when there was insufficient uptake of editors and contributors. Previously, i though that this Wiki was your personal journal in the winding path of learning this platform. If you are not updating it anymore, Why it is still included in the Wikipedia? I noticed that Ken Ray's Tips webpages are not included either... Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/GOOSE-BUMPS-tp2546937p2550532.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On 09/22/2010 06:31 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: Hi Richmond, Richmond Mathewson-2 wrote: Quite frankly that project died a death quite a few years ago when there was insufficient uptake of editors and contributors. Previously, i though that this Wiki was your personal journal in the winding path of learning this platform. Cripes; my path was far more convoluted than that . . . :) If you are not updating it anymore, Why it is still included in the Wikipedia? Ask whoever it is who edits the Wikipedia page on The IDE formerly known as 'RunRev' . I noticed that Ken Ray's Tips webpages are not included either... Al ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On 20/09/2010 20:02, Timothy Miller gand...@doctortimothymiller.com wrote: I don't understand the significance of the name change to LiveCode. Is this an internal reorganization or marketing strategy? Or has ownership changed? The ownership has not changed. From the FAQ: The new name more accurately conveys the benefits that are at the core of the LiveCode platform: a fast, compile-free workflow. This core message is more tightly associated with the unique selling points that are so important to our customer base, including enabling a highly productive workflow, outstanding ease-of-use, very-high-level English-like language and flexible delivery to multiple platforms and devices from a single code base. We found that since introducing the ³Rev² prefix we have introduced many new products and services, notably including revMobile and revServer. The product lineup was rapidly becoming complex and difficult to explain. These products are now simply deployment packs for LiveCode. This new lineup is much easier for both existing and new customers to understand. LiveCode better conveys our mission, focus and technology. The LiveCode name will be easier to locate in Internet searches. Rather than searching for ³Rev² or ³Revolution² which are buried with other unrelated items, or searching individually for ³revMedia², ³revStudio² or ³revMobile², you can now perform a single search for ³LiveCode². Much of the brand recognition we have to date centers around the company name ³RunRev², which is not changing. We haven¹t changed the product name in the decade since its introduction (we have introduced variants but they have always had ³Rev² or ³Revolution² in the name). We believe that by centering all focus on a single, searchable word, the new brand will quickly overtake the brand recognition previously associated with ³Rev² or ³Revolution² which was actually quite difficult to brand. I'll elaborate on that FAQ with a specific example that might be helpful: One of the biggest practical issues we were coming up against with the old name was it searchability. For example, we've had 5x the press coverage over the last year than we had in the previous year, as measured by articles and site traffic. And yet there is no one search term you can use to find it. We've had coverage for revMobile, coverage for revEnterprise and in spite of my spending an hour on the phone with a prominent journalist who wrote a great review, he called it the wrong name. RunRev is the most used term and press are using it to describe the product name because they want something unique, but even that use is inconsistent. Rev is smart and catchy but go and search for that in Google now and you'll see the problem. This whole situation is was just not workable going forward. LiveCode is a fanstastic, strong, clear new name that will quickly become highly searchable. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode - Realize fast, compile-free coding ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On 09/21/2010 06:18 PM, Kevin Miller wrote: On 20/09/2010 20:02, Timothy Millergand...@doctortimothymiller.com wrote: I don't understand the significance of the name change to LiveCode. Is this an internal reorganization or marketing strategy? Or has ownership changed? The ownership has not changed. From the FAQ: The new name more accurately conveys the benefits that are at the core of the LiveCode platform: a fast, compile-free workflow. This core message is more tightly associated with the unique selling points that are so important to our customer base, including enabling a highly productive workflow, outstanding ease-of-use, very-high-level English-like language and flexible delivery to multiple platforms and devices from a single code base. We found that since introducing the ³Rev² prefix we have introduced many new products and services, notably including revMobile and revServer. The product lineup was rapidly becoming complex and difficult to explain. These products are now simply deployment packs for LiveCode. This new lineup is much easier for both existing and new customers to understand. LiveCode better conveys our mission, focus and technology. The LiveCode name will be easier to locate in Internet searches. Rather than searching for ³Rev² or ³Revolution² which are buried with other unrelated items, or searching individually for ³revMedia², ³revStudio² or ³revMobile², you can now perform a single search for ³LiveCode². Much of the brand recognition we have to date centers around the company name ³RunRev², which is not changing. We haven¹t changed the product name in the decade since its introduction (we have introduced variants but they have always had ³Rev² or ³Revolution² in the name). We believe that by centering all focus on a single, searchable word, the new brand will quickly overtake the brand recognition previously associated with ³Rev² or ³Revolution² which was actually quite difficult to brand. I'll elaborate on that FAQ with a specific example that might be helpful: One of the biggest practical issues we were coming up against with the old name was it searchability. For example, we've had 5x the press coverage over the last year than we had in the previous year, as measured by articles and site traffic. And yet there is no one search term you can use to find it. We've had coverage for revMobile, coverage for revEnterprise and in spite of my spending an hour on the phone with a prominent journalist who wrote a great review, he called it the wrong name. RunRev is the most used term and press are using it to describe the product name because they want something unique, but even that use is inconsistent. Rev is smart and catchy but go and search for that in Google now and you'll see the problem. This whole situation is was just not workable going forward. LiveCode is a fanstastic, strong, clear new name that will quickly become highly searchable. Kind regards, Kevin That's a very cogent and well thought-out justification. Thank you. sincerely, Richmond. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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DunbarX wrote: In a message dated 9/20/10 4:14:41 PM, janschenkel writes: And it is infinitely more internet-searchable. This alone may be the most important aspect... http://www.google.com/search?q=runrev http://www.google.com/search?q=livecode http://www.google.com/search?q=rapid+application+development -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Richard: Are you implying that there is very little returned when searching livecode? Give it a few days at least, no? Craig In a message dated 9/21/10 4:16:25 PM, ambassa...@fourthworld.com writes: http://www.google.com/search?q=rapid+application+development ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On Sep 21, 2010, at 4:20 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Are you implying that there is very little returned when searching livecode? In fact there is five times as much when searching for livecode (because it just knows that you really meant live code). Searching for +livecode cuts that down a lot, and many of the matches are nothing to do with Rev. But some of them are. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Great name. Should also change the name of the company to LiveCode. Congratulations to the home team. Mike --- On Mon, 9/20/10, Shadow Slash shadow.sl...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Shadow Slash shadow.sl...@yahoo.com Subject: GOOSE BUMPS To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Monday, September 20, 2010, 7:50 AM I just checked the RunRev homepage right now only to find out about LiveCode!! I suddenly felt that goose bumpy feeling when I first saw it and also when I realized that revMedia, revStudio and revEnterprise is gone from the product lists. There's just LiveCode. xP ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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For anyone already curious about this, if you have an existing license for a version of Revolution, when you go into your account settings you'll find that you're already licensed for LiveCode. You can download the release 4.5, now called LiveCode, and as you run it you do a log in using your Rev account email and password. Then it shows you the license you have, and you select that you want to use that license. I had worried briefly, because I was licensed for another two years of any version of Revolution. That need not have covered the product if the name changed! Apart from some of the interface being dark, and the icon being new, it all looks familiar enough. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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So, no revMobile? Just LiveCode? What about On-Rev? While the site still exists, there don't seem to be links on the new LiveCode site. Whats new about 4.5 that would make it a worthwhile investment? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/GOOSE-BUMPS-tp2546937p2547040.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Hello Colin, I am just a tad confused, have folks with a license received a new Rev account password yet. I don't want to get stuck in a bit of limbo. I have an enterprise license for a little over another year, but on the RC I downloaded you don't put in the license code any longer and I hadn't received a specific password from Rev for an account and on the RC I used the temp password... Thanks for any clarity on the situation. Perhaps I should email Heather if folks have received an account password already... Wayne On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: For anyone already curious about this, if you have an existing license for a version of Revolution, when you go into your account settings you'll find that you're already licensed for LiveCode. You can download the release 4.5, now called LiveCode, and as you run it you do a log in using your Rev account email and password. Then it shows you the license you have, and you select that you want to use that license. I had worried briefly, because I was licensed for another two years of any version of Revolution. That need not have covered the product if the name changed! Apart from some of the interface being dark, and the icon being new, it all looks familiar enough. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On Sep 20, 2010, at 10:17 AM, wayne durden wrote: Thanks for any clarity on the situation. Perhaps I should email Heather if folks have received an account password already... She might be busy today! My account login email arrived only 85 minutes ago, and the general announcement one only 10 minutes ago, so you may have it already by now, or will get it soon hopefully. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On 20/09/2010 15:17, wayne durden wdur...@gmail.com wrote: I am just a tad confused, have folks with a license received a new Rev account password yet. I don't want to get stuck in a bit of limbo. I have an enterprise license for a little over another year, but on the RC I downloaded you don't put in the license code any longer and I hadn't received a specific password from Rev for an account and on the RC I used the temp password... You should have received account details by now, if not please check your spam filter then email supp...@runrev.com. Thanks for any clarity on the situation. Perhaps I should email Heather if folks have received an account password already... We're created an FAQ for existing customers here which I hope is helpful: http://www.runrev.com/support/faq/ Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ RunRev - Software construction for everyone ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Dear Folks, Actually, quite a lot of you may still not have your new account details - please be patient, it is on its way to you. We have an extremely large database we are sending account details to and the mail server is taking a little time to work through them. Warm Regards, Heather On 20 Sep 2010, at 15:39, Kevin Miller wrote: On 20/09/2010 15:17, wayne durden wdur...@gmail.com wrote: I am just a tad confused, have folks with a license received a new Rev account password yet. I don't want to get stuck in a bit of limbo. I have an enterprise license for a little over another year, but on the RC I downloaded you don't put in the license code any longer and I hadn't received a specific password from Rev for an account and on the RC I used the temp password... You should have received account details by now, if not please check your spam filter then email supp...@runrev.com. Thanks for any clarity on the situation. Perhaps I should email Heather if folks have received an account password already... We're created an FAQ for existing customers here which I hope is helpful: http://www.runrev.com/support/faq/ Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ RunRev - Software construction for everyone ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Heather Nagey Customer Services Manager http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode – Realize fast, compile-free coding ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Taking time? Why not have Rev do it? In a message dated 9/20/10 12:47:17 PM, heat...@runrev.com writes: We have an extremely large database we are sending account details to and the mail server is taking a little time to work through them. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On Sep 20, 2010, at 12:49 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Taking time? Why not have Rev do it? Did you mean have LiveCode do it? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Hi Andrew, Whats new about 4.5 that would make it a worthwhile investment? what´s new (in order of importance to me. mileage may vary) - On the majority of my projects the engine is a (measured) blazing 30% faster - PDF printing - a heap of annoyances fixed - much more stable Linux version (I might actually try to build a project for Linux now) - quite some other stuff I am not currently using, but may soon. Cheers, Malte___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Let's see now: I program with . . . xTalk, Transcript, RevTalk, Revolution, RunRev, LiveCode . . . Yer Wot? Plain confusing. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On Sep 20, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Richmond wrote: Let's see now: I program with . . . xTalk, Transcript, RevTalk, Revolution, RunRev, LiveCode . . . Yer Wot? Plain confusing. Make sure to list them all on your CV, it'll look impressive. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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I personally prefer it to be called Transcript though.because it just sounds unique and the sort. Plus SourceForge has officially accepted it as one of the programming languages around. And they call it Transcript. So I say and pick Transcript! :) --- On Mon, 20/9/10, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: From: Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com Subject: Re: GOOSE BUMPS To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Monday, 20 September, 2010, 6:19 PM Let's see now: I program with . . . xTalk, Transcript, RevTalk, Revolution, RunRev, LiveCode . . . Yer Wot? Plain confusing. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On 09/20/2010 09:28 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: On Sep 20, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Richmond wrote: Let's see now: I program with . . . xTalk, Transcript, RevTalk, Revolution, RunRev, LiveCode . . . Yer Wot? Plain confusing. Make sure to list them all on your CV, it'll look impressive. Well, I also speak 'Official' English, Somerset dialect (went to school there), Gallovidian Scots, Arbroath Scots, and Orcadian - but that doth not make me a polyglot, only multi-dialectal. Also; everybody knows that CVs are about 75% puff nowadays . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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For those of you who have the 'benefits' of Safari 4.1.2 on Mac OS 10.4.11 it makes a right Horlicks of the new website; while on Firefox (same OS) it looks right spiffy, as, indeed, it does through Firefox, IceCat, Chromium and Midori on Ubuntu 10.10 Beta. Somebody, who probably got paid buckets to design the new website didn't do enough checking, cough, cough. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Derrr... I don't understand the significance of the name change to LiveCode. Is this an internal reorganization or marketing strategy? Or has ownership changed? Tim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On 09/20/2010 10:02 PM, Timothy Miller wrote: Derrr... I don't understand the significance of the name change to LiveCode. Is this an internal reorganization or marketing strategy? Or has ownership changed? Tim I don't understand this either; certainly I thought product recognition usually hinged on name recognition. Presumably ( ) the much-vaunted Free RevMedia age has evaporated in a puff of smoke - makes me look a right wally when I get kids over here to use it on my Linux boxes in the school when I cannot tell them to go home and sign up for a free version for their own Windows boxes at home: Oh, Well, RunRev shoot themselves in the foot by encouraging educators to make pirate copies of RevMedia with passkeys . . . :( ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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It's a repackage and rebranding, partially in response to surveys. The ownership is the same as far as I can tell. The web site looks great. On 20 September 2010 12:02, Timothy Miller gand...@doctortimothymiller.comwrote: Derrr... I don't understand the significance of the name change to LiveCode. Is this an internal reorganization or marketing strategy? Or has ownership changed? Tim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On 09/20/2010 10:09 PM, stephen barncard wrote: It's a repackage and rebranding, partially in response to surveys. The ownership is the same as far as I can tell. The web site looks great. That's funny; I completed several surveys. I don't remember anything about name changes and aggressive rebranding. On 20 September 2010 12:02, Timothy Miller gand...@doctortimothymiller.comwrote: Derrr... I don't understand the significance of the name change to LiveCode. Is this an internal reorganization or marketing strategy? Or has ownership changed? Tim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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This was a thead a while ago. What to call the language. I also prefer transcript. It sounds grown-up, professional, even. Something hypertalk lacked; which always seemed, well, not grown-up. I hope that the product name change (never mind the far less critical language name) is well considered, and brings simplicity and success. Craig Newman In a message dated 9/20/10 2:28:49 PM, shadow.sl...@yahoo.com writes: I personally prefer it to be called Transcript though.because it just sounds unique and the sort. Plus SourceForge has officially accepted it as one of the programming languages around. And they call it Transcript. So I say and pick Transcript! :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On 09/20/2010 10:13 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: This was a thead a while ago. What to call the language. I also prefer transcript. It sounds grown-up, professional, even. Something hypertalk lacked; which always seemed, well, not grown-up. I hope that the product name change (never mind the far less critical language name) is well considered, and brings simplicity and success. A name change normally signals a new direction, a break with the past, rather than continuity building on established foundations. One wonders, in that light, how well considered the name change is; unless, of course, the Company formally known as Runtime Revolution is doing a Hot Black DeSatio Craig Newman In a message dated 9/20/10 2:28:49 PM, shadow.sl...@yahoo.com writes: I personally prefer it to be called Transcript though.because it just sounds unique and the sort. Plus SourceForge has officially accepted it as one of the programming languages around. And they call it Transcript. So I say and pick Transcript! :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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It's New and Improved! Congrats to the team and good luck to all of us! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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--- On Mon, 9/20/10, dunb...@aol.com dunb...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 9/20/10 2:28:49 PM, shadow.sl...@yahoo.com writes: I personally prefer it to be called Transcript though.because it just sounds unique and the sort. Plus SourceForge has officially accepted it as one of the programming languages around. And they call it Transcript. So I say and pick Transcript! :) This was a thead a while ago. What to call the language. I also prefer transcript. It sounds grown-up, professional, even. Something hypertalk lacked; which always seemed, well, not grown-up. I hope that the product name change (never mind the far less critical language name) is well considered, and brings simplicity and success. Craig Newman Personally, I'm very much in favour of the sweeping name change. LiveCode is a complete development tool: a language, a platform and an IDE. Much easier to say I built it in LiveCode than I built it in Java, using OpenJDK 6, NetBeans Matisse GUI Builder and Eclipse And it is infinitely more internet-searchable. Jan Schenkel. = Quartam Reports PDF Library for LiveCode www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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This alone may be the most important aspect... Craig Newman In a message dated 9/20/10 4:14:41 PM, janschen...@yahoo.com writes: And it is infinitely more internet-searchable. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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OOPS. LiveCode.com isn't *owned*. I would've expected THAT to be a prerequisite before naming. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:35 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: This alone may be the most important aspect... Craig Newman In a message dated 9/20/10 4:14:41 PM, janschen...@yahoo.com writes: And it is infinitely more internet-searchable ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On Sep 20, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Timothy Miller wrote: I don't understand the significance of the name change to LiveCode. Is this an internal reorganization or marketing strategy? Or has ownership changed? No doubt it is to keep it distinct from the revolution. When and if it comes. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Dar- Monday, September 20, 2010, 2:01:40 PM, you wrote: No doubt it is to keep it distinct from the revolution. When and if it comes. ...won't be televised, though... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Will T-Rev still work with LiveCode? On Sep 20, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Dar- Monday, September 20, 2010, 2:01:40 PM, you wrote: No doubt it is to keep it distinct from the revolution. When and if it comes. ...won't be televised, though... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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It does. sqb On 20 September 2010 15:06, Mark Swindell mdswind...@cruzio.com wrote: Will T-Rev still work with LiveCode? On Sep 20, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Dar- Monday, September 20, 2010, 2:01:40 PM, you wrote: No doubt it is to keep it distinct from the revolution. When and if it comes. ...won't be televised, though... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Will T-Rev still work with LiveCode? ...only if you use a Mac. The rest of us are out of luck. Best regards, David C. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
