Re: Valentina external on OS X

2006-07-02 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 7/2/06 1:23 AM, Trevor DeVore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Trevor,

 On Jul 1, 2006, at 3:20 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote:
 * bridge between RevDB and Valentina API
 if I not mistake, in both sides...
 
 You are right Ruslan.  It goes both ways though there is only a
 Valentina external function to go from RevDB to valentina.  For
 valentina to revdb you pass the valentina connection reference to
 revOpenDatabase (though I don't remember the exact syntax).  Is that
 in the wiki?

It is exactly in our V4REV/Examples/TestProject

Docs I am not sure yet updated


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Re: Valentina external on OS X

2006-07-01 Thread Trevor DeVore

On Jul 1, 2006, at 10:22 AM, James Spencer wrote:

I'm trying to try out the demo Valentina external without success  
so far.  Attempts to initialize with:


get Valentina_Init( 10 * 1024 * 1024  )

fails with a syntax error, I assume because the external is not  
being seen by Rev. I've set my stack's exteral property to:


/Applications/Revolution Studio/2.7.2-gm-1/Externals/Database  
Drivers/VXCMD_macho.bundle


which appears to be the correct path to the external.  Any guesses  
as to what is wrong here?


G5 running OS 10.4.7 and Rev Studio 2.7.2.


James,

It appears that you are trying to load the RevDB valentina driver as  
an external which won't work.  If you want to use the Valentina  
external itself you need to download it from the  
www.paradigmasoft.com.  Valentina 2 has instructions for  
installation.  If you want to use the Valentina 1 external you can  
put that into the:


~/Documents/My Revolution Studio/Externals/

folder and the next time you launch rev the external will be  
available in the Revolution development environment.  To check type  
this in the msg box:


put the externalPackages of stack home

and you should see Valentina XCMD (or something like that) in the  
result.



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Re: Valentina external on OS X

2006-07-01 Thread James Spencer


On Jul 1, 2006, at 3:12 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote:


On Jul 1, 2006, at 10:22 AM, James Spencer wrote:

I'm trying to try out the demo Valentina external without success  
so far.  Attempts to initialize with:


get Valentina_Init( 10 * 1024 * 1024  )

fails with a syntax error, I assume because the external is not  
being seen by Rev. I've set my stack's exteral property to:


/Applications/Revolution Studio/2.7.2-gm-1/Externals/Database  
Drivers/VXCMD_macho.bundle


which appears to be the correct path to the external.  Any guesses  
as to what is wrong here?


G5 running OS 10.4.7 and Rev Studio 2.7.2.


James,

It appears that you are trying to load the RevDB valentina driver  
as an external which won't work.  If you want to use the Valentina  
external itself you need to download it from the  
www.paradigmasoft.com.  Valentina 2 has instructions for  
installation.  If you want to use the Valentina 1 external you can  
put that into the:


~/Documents/My Revolution Studio/Externals/

folder and the next time you launch rev the external will be  
available in the Revolution development environment.  To check type  
this in the msg box:


put the externalPackages of stack home

and you should see Valentina XCMD (or something like that) in the  
result.



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Thank you Trevor.  That is exactly what I was trying to do.  Am I  
correct then that the default installation permits access to  
Valentina databases (with the 10 minute timeout) only through the rev  
database library (or through a third party library such as yours) in  
the absence of the Valentina XCMD?


Spence

James P. Spencer
Rochester, MN

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Re: Valentina external on OS X

2006-07-01 Thread Trevor DeVore

On Jul 1, 2006, at 1:29 PM, James Spencer wrote:


Thank you Trevor.  That is exactly what I was trying to do.  Am I  
correct then that the default installation permits access to  
Valentina databases (with the 10 minute timeout) only through the  
rev database library (or through a third party library such as  
yours) in the absence of the Valentina XCMD?


That is correct.  You have to download the Valentina XCMD  
separately.  For Valentina 1 I recommend using the Valentina external  
directly and bypassing RevDB.  With RevDB you can't use encryption  
and a lot of other fancy Valentina features.


For Valentina 2, Paradigma has created a bridge between the RevDB  
driver and the Valentina 2 external.  You can connect to Valentina 2  
using RevDB but then use a function they provide to get a reference  
that can be passed to any of Valentina external functions.  This  
makes experimenting with Valentina easier since you can use RevDB.   
If you decide you like it, you can then access the extensive  
Valentina API without having to change any of your connection code.


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Re: Valentina external on OS X

2006-07-01 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 7/2/06 12:04 AM, Trevor DeVore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thank you Trevor.  That is exactly what I was trying to do.  Am I
 correct then that the default installation permits access to
 Valentina databases (with the 10 minute timeout) only through the
 rev database library (or through a third party library such as
 yours) in the absence of the Valentina XCMD?
 
 That is correct.  You have to download the Valentina XCMD
 separately.  For Valentina 1 I recommend using the Valentina external
 directly and bypassing RevDB.  With RevDB you can't use encryption
 and a lot of other fancy Valentina features.
 
 For Valentina 2, Paradigma has created a bridge between the RevDB
 driver and the Valentina 2 external.  You can connect to Valentina 2
 using RevDB but then use a function they provide to get a reference
 that can be passed to any of Valentina external functions.  This
 makes experimenting with Valentina easier since you can use RevDB.
 If you decide you like it, you can then access the extensive
 Valentina API without having to change any of your connection code.

Let me add here:

Feature that Trevor describes is in latest 2.4 betas of V4REV 2

* RevDB support

* bridge between RevDB and Valentina API
if I not mistake, in both sides...

* Valentina for Revolution is in Universal Binary format



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Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

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Re: Valentina external on OS X

2006-07-01 Thread Trevor DeVore

On Jul 1, 2006, at 3:20 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote:

* bridge between RevDB and Valentina API
if I not mistake, in both sides...


You are right Ruslan.  It goes both ways though there is only a  
Valentina external function to go from RevDB to valentina.  For  
valentina to revdb you pass the valentina connection reference to  
revOpenDatabase (though I don't remember the exact syntax).  Is that  
in the wiki?



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Blue Mango Learning Systems - www.bluemangolearning.com
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