Re: Windows menu bars

2010-01-27 Thread dfepstein


This suggestion is late and perhaps obvious, but FWIW: 



If the task of adding a menubar to a whole bunch of cards is onerous, it may be 
worth considering bringing the card contents to the menubar.  That is, create a 
viewer (or even editer) stack that includes the menubar, and 
faux-navigate among the source cards by successively copying and deleting 
their content from your viewer/editer stack.  The merits of this depend on the 
relative complexity of the menu and the card content; it is certainly easiest 
to implement if each card's content is a single group. 



David Epstein 







I need to open multiple documents that share the same menu bar. On Mac I 
can just set the default menubar. What do most of you do for Windows? 
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Re: Windows menu bars

2010-01-27 Thread zryip theSlug
2010/1/27 J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com:

 Thanks. It won't work for my stacks, they have too many cards each. When you
 copy a menu to a stack, you also have to place it on each card. Right now I
 have a pre-placed menu on each card, and have duplicated the menu for each
 stack, which I think is how it's often done. But I was hoping someone had a
 better idea. Or I may have to use a floating menu stack after all.

Ok. What I did not seen was that a background object is only duplicate
at the creation of a new card. Uhm ... I already imagine a client ask
me to add an object into the background of a one hundred cards stack.
Nightware!

What I do not understand now it is you're need to duplicate the menu
on each card. In a stack we can see only one card at the same time.
Why do not just place the menu when you need it on the current card?

I missed something here. I have to do some test to illuminate my mind.

 What I've done is to have zero scripts in the menubar at all. It's just a 
 bunch of empty buttons. All the stacks are run by a
 single backscript, and there is one menupick handler in there with all the 
 menu items in it (it's a pretty short menu.) That means  there is only one 
 handler to manage.

 I thought about using behaviors, but I didn't see an advantage to it in this 
 situation. Would there be one?

Behavior or other way to not have to repeat the same code. No
particular advantage with it here. Just I had it in head when I wrote.
;)

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Re: Windows menu bars

2010-01-27 Thread zryip theSlug
2010/1/27 zryip theSlug zryip.thes...@gmail.com:
 I missed something here. I have to do some test to illuminate my mind.

Okay I'm back. As expected I've illuminate my mind however maybe by shadow...

This would be the solution I would implement to solve the problem. But
it requires that the cards have the room to display the menu. Not
obvious to already existing stacks...

1) Creating of a substack in my project where I could create the main menu
2) Creating a backscript for manage the menu and a preopencard handler.
3) At every opening of a new document, copy of my group menu in the
first card of the open stack.
4) Let the user populate the cards they consults by the following script:
on preOpenCard
   if (there is no group Main_Menubar) then
  place background Main_Menubar onto this card
   end if
   pass preOpenCard
end preOpenCard


No other idea at the moment on my side, sorry.
Finally, a floating window that is not so bad ... huhu 8-)

Be courageous Jacque! ;)


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Re: Windows menu bars

2010-01-27 Thread Ron

Hi Jacque

You are right about your approach because you are using multiple cards  
on one window. In my case I had multiple windows in the same app. So,  
like you, I used empty buttons, a single backscript and one menupick  
handler. But because there are different windows, I switched to  
behaviors once they became available.


Thanks
Ron
On Jan 28, 2010, at 4:23 AM, zryip theSlug wrote:


2010/1/27 J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com:


What I've done is to have zero scripts in the menubar at all. It's  
just a bunch of empty buttons. All the stacks are run by a
single backscript, and there is one menupick handler in there with  
all the menu items in it (it's a pretty short menu.) That means   
there is only one handler to manage.


I thought about using behaviors, but I didn't see an advantage to  
it in this situation. Would there be one?


Behavior or other way to not have to repeat the same code. No
particular advantage with it here. Just I had it in head when I wrote.
;)


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Windows menu bars

2010-01-26 Thread J. Landman Gay
I need to open multiple documents that share the same menu bar. On Mac I 
can just set the default menubar. What do most of you do for Windows?


I'm not too keen on putting up a toolbar like Rev does. Is there any 
other way? I think the answer is no but maybe some of you have an 
ingenius solution.


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Re: Windows menu bars

2010-01-26 Thread zryip theSlug
2010/1/26 J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com:
 I need to open multiple documents that share the same menu bar. On Mac I can
 just set the default menubar. What do most of you do for Windows?

 I'm not too keen on putting up a toolbar like Rev does. Is there any other
 way? I think the answer is no but maybe some of you have an ingenius
 solution.

Hi Jacque,

Maybe I have all wrong. I confess that I just created a menu in
Windows for the first time since your question. ;)

I note that the menu is created in the top left of each stack and is
managed by a menuPick handler.

Here is what I could do to have this menu in each of my documents.
This is purely theoretical.

1) Creating of a substack in my project (as a kind of library) where I
could create the main menu
2) Creating a button with some script to handle my menu bar.
3) Creating a parentscript / behavior link between menu bar and its
code in the button
4) At every opening of a new document, copy of my group menu in the
new open stack. Provided of course that I have room in the top left

Maybe it can help, perhaps not. I tried ;)

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Re: Windows menu bars

2010-01-26 Thread J. Landman Gay

zryip theSlug wrote:


Here is what I could do to have this menu in each of my documents.
This is purely theoretical.

1) Creating of a substack in my project (as a kind of library) where I
could create the main menu
2) Creating a button with some script to handle my menu bar.
3) Creating a parentscript / behavior link between menu bar and its
code in the button
4) At every opening of a new document, copy of my group menu in the
new open stack. Provided of course that I have room in the top left

Maybe it can help, perhaps not. I tried ;)



Thanks. It won't work for my stacks, they have too many cards each. When 
you copy a menu to a stack, you also have to place it on each card. 
Right now I have a pre-placed menu on each card, and have duplicated the 
menu for each stack, which I think is how it's often done. But I was 
hoping someone had a better idea. Or I may have to use a floating menu 
stack after all.


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Re: Windows menu bars

2010-01-26 Thread Ron

Jacque
I was hoping for a better answer from someone as well. I ended up  
doing what you did in a similar situation.


If its not too late, don't forget about the advantage of behaviors  
when adding all those menus. Maintaining one menuset and then  
parentscripting all the others has saved me lots of time when I need  
to change something in one of the menus.


Ron

On Jan 27, 2010, at 12:31 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


zryip theSlug wrote:


Here is what I could do to have this menu in each of my documents.
This is purely theoretical.
1) Creating of a substack in my project (as a kind of library)  
where I

could create the main menu
2) Creating a button with some script to handle my menu bar.
3) Creating a parentscript / behavior link between menu bar and its
code in the button
4) At every opening of a new document, copy of my group menu in the
new open stack. Provided of course that I have room in the top left
Maybe it can help, perhaps not. I tried ;)


Thanks. It won't work for my stacks, they have too many cards each.  
When you copy a menu to a stack, you also have to place it on each  
card. Right now I have a pre-placed menu on each card, and have  
duplicated the menu for each stack, which I think is how it's often  
done. But I was hoping someone had a better idea. Or I may have to  
use a floating menu stack after all.


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Re: Windows menu bars

2010-01-26 Thread J. Landman Gay

Ron wrote:

If its not too late, don't forget about the advantage of behaviors when 
adding all those menus. Maintaining one menuset and then parentscripting 
all the others has saved me lots of time when I need to change something 
in one of the menus.


What I've done is to have zero scripts in the menubar at all. It's just 
a bunch of empty buttons. All the stacks are run by a single backscript, 
and there is one menupick handler in there with all the menu items in it 
(it's a pretty short menu.) That means there is only one handler to manage.


I thought about using behaviors, but I didn't see an advantage to it in 
this situation. Would there be one?


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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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