Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?

2010-06-18 Thread Robert Brenstein

On 14.06.10 at 07:38 -0700 charles61 apparently wrote:

Hi Sarah,

The user does not get the file by selecting ti. In this situation,

1. The user creates a new file and populates the file
2. Then saves the file abc.
3. User decides to make a change in the file.
4. The user opens a new file without saving the changes to file abc.

This is where I want to get a dialog asking the User to save file 
abc or disregard the last changes made and start a new file.


Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com



Your script that handles step 2 gets the file name from the user. You 
just need to preserve it to use in 4.


To save a new file, you must be using the ask file dialog. It returns 
the path to the file in it. Filename is the last item of the path.


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Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?

2010-06-14 Thread charles61

Hi Sarah,

The user does not get the file by selecting ti. In this situation, 

1. The user creates a new file and populates the file
2. Then saves the file abc.
3. User decides to make a change in the file.
4. The user opens a new file without saving the changes to file abc.

This is where I want to get a dialog asking the User to save file abc or 
disregard the last changes made and start a new file.

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com




On Jun 13, 2010, at 6:02 AM, Sarah Reichelt-2 [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

  The question is how do you get the name of the file that is opened from a 
  script to save in a variable. This is what I been unable to do. 
 
 How do you open the file? Do you get the user to select a file using 
 the answer file dialog? 
 If so, try something like this: 
 
 global gOpenDataFile 
 answer file Select a file to open: 
 if it is empty then exit to top 
 put it into gOpenDataFile 
 put URL (file:  gOpenDataFile) into tFileData 
 -- process the file data as usual 
 
 Now the global variable gOpenDataFile contains the full path to the 
 data file that was opened. 
 You can use this later when asking to save: 
 
 global gOpenDataFile 
 ask file Save data file? with gOpenDataFile 
 
 And it will offer the same folder and file name as before. 
 Note that if you select the same file name, the OS will give you a 
 file exists warning, whereas if you just save directly using the file 
 name, then it won't. 
 
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Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?

2010-06-14 Thread Peter Brigham MD

On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:38 AM, charles61 wrote:



Hi Sarah,

The user does not get the file by selecting ti. In this situation,

1. The user creates a new file and populates the file
2. Then saves the file abc.
3. User decides to make a change in the file.
4. The user opens a new file without saving the changes to file abc.

This is where I want to get a dialog asking the User to save file  
abc or disregard the last changes made and start a new file.


Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com


On Jun 13, 2010, at 6:02 AM, Sarah Reichelt-2 [via Runtime  
Revolution] wrote:


The question is how do you get the name of the file that is opened  
from a

script to save in a variable. This is what I been unable to do.


How do you open the file? Do you get the user to select a file using
the answer file dialog?
If so, try something like this:

global gOpenDataFile
answer file Select a file to open:
if it is empty then exit to top
put it into gOpenDataFile
put URL (file:  gOpenDataFile) into tFileData
-- process the file data as usual 


Now the global variable gOpenDataFile contains the full path to the
data file that was opened.
You can use this later when asking to save:

global gOpenDataFile
ask file Save data file? with gOpenDataFile

And it will offer the same folder and file name as before.
Note that if you select the same file name, the OS will give you a
file exists warning, whereas if you just save directly using the file
name, then it won't.

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Cheers,
Sarah


How does the user create a new file -- from within Rev, eg, via a  
button or some such, or by double-clicking the file icon on the  
desktop? Does Rev open it in a Rev window, or does the file launch  
using another app? How does a user open an existing file? -- again,  
from within Rev or using the system software? It would help if you  
described in more detail what the exact process is here, and what the  
larger picture is -- what does your stack do?


As far as I can gather, the user opens an existing file by script --  
so you have the file location stored somewhere. If the file is  
launched using another app and then the contents are changed, the  
system will provide the usual save before closing? dialog. At which  
point the user can say cancel and instead save as... and choose a  
new file name. If you are opening the file and editing it from within  
Rev, eg in a field. then you can use the closefield message to give  
the user the option of saving to the existing file. But I'm having to  
guess what you want to do, since you haven't specified the details.


-- Peter

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Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?

2010-06-13 Thread Sarah Reichelt
 The question is how do you get the name of the file that is opened from a
 script to save in a variable. This is what I been unable to do.

How do you open the file? Do you get the user to select a file using
the answer file dialog?
If so, try something like this:

global gOpenDataFile
answer file Select a file to open:
if it is empty then exit to top
put it into gOpenDataFile
put URL (file:  gOpenDataFile) into tFileData
-- process the file data as usual

Now the global variable gOpenDataFile contains the full path to the
data file that was opened.
You can use this later when asking to save:

global gOpenDataFile
ask file Save data file? with gOpenDataFile

And it will offer the same folder and file name as before.
Note that if you select the same file name, the OS will give you a
file exists warning, whereas if you just save directly using the file
name, then it won't.

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Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?

2010-06-13 Thread charles61

Hi Sarah,

The situation is the same as the user who has created and saved a document but 
then decides to make a change to the document before creating a new document. 
The dialog is essentially a Save As Dialog where the user is asked whether to 
save the document with the same name or disregard the changes and close the 
document. 

In my current dialog the user is given the standard save untitled.txt option. 
Instead, I would like the user to get a dialog that says Save the file abc or 
disregard the changes. Here abc is the name of the saved file before changes 
were made to the file.

 Hi Sarah,
 
 The situation is the same as the user who has created and saved a document 
 but then decides to make a change to the document before creating a new 
 document. The dialog is a reminder to the user to save the document before 
 closing it with the same name or with a different name. In other words, it is 
 a Save As Dialog that you would see if you were closing a document but have 
 not saved some changes to the document.

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com




On Jun 13, 2010, at 6:02 AM, Sarah Reichelt-2 [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

  The question is how do you get the name of the file that is opened from a 
  script to save in a variable. This is what I been unable to do. 
 
 How do you open the file? Do you get the user to select a file using 
 the answer file dialog? 
 If so, try something like this: 
 
 global gOpenDataFile 
 answer file Select a file to open: 
 if it is empty then exit to top 
 put it into gOpenDataFile 
 put URL (file:  gOpenDataFile) into tFileData 
 -- process the file data as usual 
 
 Now the global variable gOpenDataFile contains the full path to the 
 data file that was opened. 
 You can use this later when asking to save: 
 
 global gOpenDataFile 
 ask file Save data file? with gOpenDataFile 
 
 And it will offer the same folder and file name as before. 
 Note that if you select the same file name, the OS will give you a 
 file exists warning, whereas if you just save directly using the file 
 name, then it won't. 
 
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 Sarah 
 
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Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?

2010-06-13 Thread Mike Bonner
Ok, so the file is created or opened to start with. If its a
pre-existing file that is opened by using answer file as long as the
user doesn't cancel, the path to the chosen file will be in the it
special variable.
So if you put it into some place to store it, you then have the
filename.  YOU need to keep track of this until the file is closed so
that you can use the information.

If a new file is created and saved, again, as soon as its saved, you
know the filename. Store it as stated above for later use. Use ask
file to prompt the user for the initial save, then put it into a
storage vehicle.

Either way, at this point you as the programmer should be tracking the
file name.
So if you want to have a save as option, again use ask file

ask file Save as with yourstoredfilepath
See 'ask file with' in the dictionary for more information.

While looking at all this, you should also read the entry for
defaultFolder, specialFolderPath and the like as you are most likely
going to need them.


On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 7:01 AM, charles61 csz...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Sarah,

 The situation is the same as the user who has created and saved a document 
 but then decides to make a change to the document before creating a new 
 document. The dialog is essentially a Save As Dialog where the user is asked 
 whether to save the document with the same name or disregard the changes and 
 close the document.

 In my current dialog the user is given the standard save untitled.txt 
 option. Instead, I would like the user to get a dialog that says Save the 
 file abc or disregard the changes. Here abc is the name of the saved file 
 before changes were made to the file.

 Hi Sarah,

 The situation is the same as the user who has created and saved a document 
 but then decides to make a change to the document before creating a new 
 document. The dialog is a reminder to the user to save the document before 
 closing it with the same name or with a different name. In other words, it 
 is a Save As Dialog that you would see if you were closing a document but 
 have not saved some changes to the document.

 Charles Szasz
 csz...@mac.com




 On Jun 13, 2010, at 6:02 AM, Sarah Reichelt-2 [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

  The question is how do you get the name of the file that is opened from a
  script to save in a variable. This is what I been unable to do.

 How do you open the file? Do you get the user to select a file using
 the answer file dialog?
 If so, try something like this:

 global gOpenDataFile
 answer file Select a file to open:
 if it is empty then exit to top
 put it into gOpenDataFile
 put URL (file:  gOpenDataFile) into tFileData
 -- process the file data as usual

 Now the global variable gOpenDataFile contains the full path to the
 data file that was opened.
 You can use this later when asking to save:

 global gOpenDataFile
 ask file Save data file? with gOpenDataFile

 And it will offer the same folder and file name as before.
 Note that if you select the same file name, the OS will give you a
 file exists warning, whereas if you just save directly using the file
 name, then it won't.

 --
 Cheers,
 Sarah

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How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?

2010-06-12 Thread charles61

I have going through various scripts to get the name of a text file (not
stack) that is open in my app using the message box. Does anyone know how to
do this?
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Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?

2010-06-12 Thread stephen barncard
answer file select file:;put it into temp;get URL(file:  temp);put temp
 return  return  it

On 12 June 2010 12:16, charles61 csz...@mac.com wrote:


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Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?

2010-06-12 Thread stephen barncard
Otherwise I misread what you were asking. If you have an app and you load a
file, it's up to the programmer (you) to keep track of it in a variable or a
custom property. There is no last file loaded property.

On 12 June 2010 12:48, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.comwrote:

 answer file select file:;put it into temp;get URL(file:  temp);put
 temp  return  return  it

 On 12 June 2010 12:16, charles61 csz...@mac.com wrote:


 I have going through various scripts to get the name of a text file (not
 stack) that is open in my app using the message box. Does anyone know how
 to
 do this?
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Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?

2010-06-12 Thread charles61

Stephen,

I typed your suggestion in the message box and I only got the select file 
dialog box but not the name of the file that is already opened. Any other 
suggestions? I went through the RevList archives and could not find an example 
of getting the name of an open file!

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com




On Jun 12, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Stephen Barncard-4 [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

 answer file select file:;put it into temp;get URL(file:  temp);put temp 
  return  return  it 
 
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  stack) that is open in my app using the message box. Does anyone know how 
  to 
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Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?

2010-06-12 Thread charles61

Stephen,

I just saw your second e-mail reply. My plan is to put the name of the open
file in a variable but getting the name of the open file has been difficult.
How do you get the name of the open file?
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Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?

2010-06-12 Thread stephen barncard
You are not communicating very well. It is still not clear what you want.

Do you want to place a suggested file name in an ask dialog entry field
instead, or have a the filename show up instead of the prompt of the ask
dialog?

Again, how would the dialog 'know' what the last filename was unless you
save it yourself?

Or are you just having trouble getting the result of your choice in the
dialog?
Look at the  IT variable

Anyway again it is up to the programmer to know which files are open and
those that are not.  Usually 'OPEN' is just for microseconds, the data is
put in a variable, and work with it inside rev.  There is no open and close
needed for  'put URL()' and the file is closed after the call.  There really
is no need for multiple open and close statements unless one is processing
data from one file into another file by script. Most of the time that is
never needed.

On 12 June 2010 13:00, charles61 csz...@mac.com wrote:


 Stephen,

 I typed your suggestion in the message box and I only got the select file
 dialog box but not the name of the file that is already opened. Any other
 suggestions? I went through the RevList archives and could not find an
 example of getting the name of an open file!

 Charles Szasz
 csz...@mac.com




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  answer file select file:;put it into temp;get URL(file:  temp);put
 temp
   return  return  it
 
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Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?

2010-06-12 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 5:16 AM, charles61 csz...@mac.com wrote:

 I have going through various scripts to get the name of a text file (not
 stack) that is open in my app using the message box. Does anyone know how to
 do this?

Charles, at some stage in your scripts, the file was opened. At that
point, your script had to know the file name.
You will have to store that file name in the custom property, hidden
field, script local or global variable at that time.
Then you can use that file name at any time to re-save to the original file.


Cheers,
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Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?

2010-06-12 Thread charles61

Stephen,

I am sorry for the confusion. All I want to do to provide a save dialog when
the user makes a change to a saved file asking the user to save the file
after a change was made to the file. In my current script, I have a dialog
appear that asks if the user wants to save the file with untitled.text. This
would be okay if the file did not already have a name. So far I have been
unable to get the name of the file to appear in the dialog so the user can
choose to save the file with its current name, a new name or disregard the
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Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?

2010-06-12 Thread stephen barncard
so what we've all told you is all you need. Have you put it all together
yet?

On 12 June 2010 20:29, charles61 csz...@mac.com wrote:


 Stephen,

 I am sorry for the confusion. All I want to do to provide a save dialog
 when
 the user makes a change to a saved file asking the user to save the file
 after a change was made to the file. In my current script, I have a dialog
 appear that asks if the user wants to save the file with untitled.text.
 This
 would be okay if the file did not already have a name. So far I have been
 unable to get the name of the file to appear in the dialog so the user can
 choose to save the file with its current name, a new name or disregard the
 changes.
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Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?

2010-06-12 Thread charles61

Stephen,

I understand how to put the name in the variable and store it but I have not 
been able to get the name of the current file to put in a variable. But I will 
keep working on it. Thanks for all of your comments and suggestions!

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com




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 so what we've all told you is all you need. Have you put it all together 
 yet? 
 
 On 12 June 2010 20:29, charles61 [hidden email] wrote: 
 
  
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  I am sorry for the confusion. All I want to do to provide a save dialog 
  when 
  the user makes a change to a saved file asking the user to save the file 
  after a change was made to the file. In my current script, I have a dialog 
  appear that asks if the user wants to save the file with untitled.text. 
  This 
  would be okay if the file did not already have a name. So far I have been 
  unable to get the name of the file to appear in the dialog so the user can 
  choose to save the file with its current name, a new name or disregard the 
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Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?

2010-06-12 Thread charles61

Sarah,

The question is how do you get the name of the file that is opened from a
script to save in a variable. This is what I been unable to do. 
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-17 Thread Devin Asay

On May 16, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Jim Bufalini wrote:
 
 Here is a small Rev plugin that finds orphaned puts in any open stack you so
 designate. It was written by Eric Chatonet. Offered as is. It will also
 find other lines of code. Please put it in your plugins folder and launch it
 from there. 
 
 www.jimbofhawaii.com/downloads/Smart Search.rev

The link seems to be broken, Jim, although I was able to get it by just listing 
the downloads folder contents.

Thanks for offering this.

Devin


Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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RE: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-17 Thread Jim Bufalini
Devin Asay wrote:
 
 The link seems to be broken, Jim, although I was able to get it by just
 listing the downloads folder contents.
 
 Thanks for offering this.

The link is ok, it just got broken at the space in the send. Hopefully it
won't get broken this time, If it does, just copy the entire link and paste
into your browser. 

www.jimbofhawaii.com/downloads/Smart Search.rev

Aloha from Hawaii,

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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-17 Thread Bob Sneidar
Couldn't you search for put variable   return?

on findit
  put the script of whateverobjectcontainsthescript into theScript
  put Offset(put yourvariable   return, theScript) into found1 -- can't 
use lineoffset with return?? not sure
  put Offset(put yourvariable  return, theScript) into found2 -- no space 
after variable just in case

  if found1 + found2  0 then -- youfoundit
-- whatever code you like here
  end if
end findit

On May 15, 2010, at 8:53 AM, william humphrey wrote:

 Jerry
 
 I'm asking this question on the RunRev forum because I want to announce here
 how much I love tRev. Anyway how do you search for a put that is like
 
 put variable
 
 and doesn't have an into so it opens the message box. I realize that I
 should have marked my code there or put message box because it is so hard to
 find a put that doesn't have an into
 
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-17 Thread Bob Sneidar
BACKWARDS OFFSET! HERE HERE!!! Like the dBase function RAT(). 

Bob


On May 15, 2010, at 10:43 AM, stephen barncard wrote:

 collect the line numbers on the first pass, they ya gotta count backwards if
 you delete lines, Mark. Repeat for each won't work unless the entire script
 is rebuilt.
 
 Do we need a  backwards offset??

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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-17 Thread Bob Sneidar
spaces in url's and web files are evil. Link no workie. 

Bob


On May 16, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Jim Bufalini wrote:

 www.jimbofhawaii.com/downloads/Smart Search.rev

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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-17 Thread stephen barncard
cmon, gang we're coders!  URLEcode!

 go URL(http://www.jimbofhawaii.com/downloads/Smart%20Search.rev;) in the
msg box


(tested)


this is a fast and versatile search dialog. I like it. Thanks, Jim, thanks
Eric!



On 17 May 2010 15:42, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:

 www.jimbofhawaii.com/downloads/Smart Search.rev




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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-17 Thread Bob Sneidar
Oddly I copied the entire text from the email including the space. The browser 
substituted the appropriate %20 but I still got the file not found 404 error. 
By going to the directory, I was able to download it, but only by using Save to 
Downloads in a right click. Just saying. :-)

Looks like a nice little find in any script utility. It could be made into a 
nice tRev plugin too! 

Bob


On May 17, 2010, at 3:58 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

 cmon, gang we're coders!  URLEcode!
 
 go URL(http://www.jimbofhawaii.com/downloads/Smart%20Search.rev;) in the
 msg box
 
 
 (tested)
 
 
 this is a fast and versatile search dialog. I like it. Thanks, Jim, thanks
 Eric!
 
 
 
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 www.jimbofhawaii.com/downloads/Smart Search.rev
 
 
 
 
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RE: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-17 Thread Jim Bufalini
Bob Sneidar wrote:

 spaces in url's and web files are evil. Link no workie.

Yes they are. Now been switched to have no spaces:
 
www.jimbofhawaii.com/downloads/SmartSearch.rev

Aloha from Hawaii,

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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-17 Thread william humphrey
Thanks. That plug-in will always be useful. How hard is it to turn into a
tRev plug in?
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-17 Thread Jerry Daniels

William,

There are docs for the tRev plugins on our site. Look on the right  
side of main page.


Those docs have the names of all the tRev fields and some basic built- 
in services. What you want to do, however, can be done by just getting  
the text from the field source, munging it and then selecting the  
first line that has an orphaned put statement. Keep it simple.


Also. when you are in tRev, use the Plugins menu to create a plugin.  
You'll see comments in the base code of a blank plugin that is helpful.



Best,

Jerry Daniels

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Thanks. That plug-in will always be useful. How hard is it to turn  
into a

tRev plug in?
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-17 Thread Mark Wieder
Jim-

Monday, May 17, 2010, 4:33:09 PM, you wrote:

 www.jimbofhawaii.com/downloads/SmartSearch.rev

Nice and fast, but really hasn't kept up with the times. To get it to
work with modern versions of rev (3.5 and up), change the last line of
the mouseup handler in the Edit Script button to

select line tLineNo of fld Script of stack revNewScriptEditor 1

or better yet, switch on the version

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RE: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-16 Thread Jim Bufalini
William,

 
 I'm asking this question on the RunRev forum because I want to announce
 here
 how much I love tRev. Anyway how do you search for a put that is like
 
 put variable
 
 and doesn't have an into so it opens the message box. I realize that
 I
 should have marked my code there or put message box because it is so
 hard to
 find a put that doesn't have an into

Here is a small Rev plugin that finds orphaned puts in any open stack you so
designate. It was written by Eric Chatonet. Offered as is. It will also
find other lines of code. Please put it in your plugins folder and launch it
from there. 

www.jimbofhawaii.com/downloads/Smart Search.rev


Aloha from Hawaii,

Jim Bufalini

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searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread william humphrey
Jerry

I'm asking this question on the RunRev forum because I want to announce here
how much I love tRev. Anyway how do you search for a put that is like

put variable

and doesn't have an into so it opens the message box. I realize that I
should have marked my code there or put message box because it is so hard to
find a put that doesn't have an into

Thanks
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread Scott Rossi
Try putting the script in variable, and then finding the lineOffset of the line 
that contains put and has only 2 words.

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design

On May 15, 2010, at 8:53 AM, william humphrey b...@bluewatermaritime.com 
wrote:

 Jerry
 
 I'm asking this question on the RunRev forum because I want to announce here
 how much I love tRev. Anyway how do you search for a put that is like
 
 put variable
 
 and doesn't have an into so it opens the message box. I realize that I
 should have marked my code there or put message box because it is so hard to
 find a put that doesn't have an into
 
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread william humphrey
I'm not sure it has only two words. I will try your suggestion though. It
could be put variable1  variable2
It sure teaches me to never do this again. Always explicitly call the
message box. I wish RunRev would remove the feature...

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.comwrote:

 Try putting the script in variable, and then finding the lineOffset of the
 line that contains put and has only 2 words.

 Scott Rossi
 Creative Director
 Tactile Media, UX Design

 On May 15, 2010, at 8:53 AM, william humphrey b...@bluewatermaritime.com
 wrote:

  Jerry
 
  I'm asking this question on the RunRev forum because I want to announce
 here
  how much I love tRev. Anyway how do you search for a put that is like
 
  put variable
 
  and doesn't have an into so it opens the message box. I realize that I
  should have marked my code there or put message box because it is so hard
 to
  find a put that doesn't have an into
 
  Thanks
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread stephen barncard
Jerry had a function Find Orphaned Puts in GLX2 that would do this and
I've been pestering him to reveal it or make a tRev plugin to use this. It
worked well.

Very useful for this old fashioned basic debugging tool .

I'd make a variation - Delete all orphaned puts if it could be made
foolproof.

On 15 May 2010 09:42, william humphrey b...@bluewatermaritime.com wrote:

 I'm not sure it has only two words. I will try your suggestion though. It
 could be put variable1  variable2
 It sure teaches me to never do this again. Always explicitly call the
 message box. I wish RunRev would remove the feature...

 On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com
 wrote:

  Try putting the script in variable, and then finding the lineOffset of
 the
  line that contains put and has only 2 words.
 
  Scott Rossi
  Creative Director
  Tactile Media, UX Design
 
  On May 15, 2010, at 8:53 AM, william humphrey 
 b...@bluewatermaritime.com
  wrote:
 
   Jerry
  
   I'm asking this question on the RunRev forum because I want to announce
  here
   how much I love tRev. Anyway how do you search for a put that is like
  
   put variable
  
   and doesn't have an into so it opens the message box. I realize that
 I
   should have marked my code there or put message box because it is so
 hard
  to
   find a put that doesn't have an into
  
   Thanks
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread Scott Rossi
The other thing to do is to make sure the line has no into.

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design

On May 15, 2010, at 9:42 AM, william humphrey b...@bluewatermaritime.com 
wrote:

 I'm not sure it has only two words. I will try your suggestion though. It
 could be put variable1  variable2
 It sure teaches me to never do this again. Always explicitly call the
 message box. I wish RunRev would remove the feature...
 
 On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.comwrote:
 
 Try putting the script in variable, and then finding the lineOffset of the
 line that contains put and has only 2 words.
 
 Scott Rossi
 Creative Director
 Tactile Media, UX Design
 
 On May 15, 2010, at 8:53 AM, william humphrey b...@bluewatermaritime.com
 wrote:
 
 Jerry
 
 I'm asking this question on the RunRev forum because I want to announce
 here
 how much I love tRev. Anyway how do you search for a put that is like
 
 put variable
 
 and doesn't have an into so it opens the message box. I realize that I
 should have marked my code there or put message box because it is so hard
 to
 find a put that doesn't have an into
 
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread Jim Ault

On May 15, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Scott Rossi wrote:


The other thing to do is to make sure the line has no into.



  or after, or before

Chipp Walters at Altuit had a utility that did this about 5 years ago.

You could use a RegEx Find in the stack to look at all the scripts.
I don't have time to do the RegEx string that would
  locate all   put
  ignore 'into'  'after'  'before'  on the same line
thus creating a short list of

--
A running detection technique could be -

   if the message box is string I keep seeing but cannot find then  
breakpoint


Moving this further up the processing order should be able to isolate  
it for you.





On May 15, 2010, at 9:42 AM, william humphrey b...@bluewatermaritime.com 
 wrote:


I'm not sure it has only two words. I will try your suggestion  
though. It

could be put variable1  variable2
It sure teaches me to never do this again. Always explicitly call the
message box. I wish RunRev would remove the feature...



Compatibility with Hypercard will mean this feature will likely remain  
for a long time.



Jim Ault
Las Vegas



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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread Jerry Daniels
William,

We did at one time in our previous editors have a Find Orphaned Put's menu 
item. tRev is me spare with its extra features, so we created a simple plugin 
architecture for all the extras you'd ever want.

Check out the posts in our site regarding plugs. You go to the site and search, 
or search the site right from tRev's Help menu.

Best,

Jerry Daniels

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On May 15, 2010, at 10:53 AM, william humphrey b...@bluewatermaritime.com 
wrote:

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 I'm asking this question on the RunRev forum because I want to announce here
 how much I love tRev. Anyway how do you search for a put that is like
 
 put variable
 
 and doesn't have an into so it opens the message box. I realize that I
 should have marked my code there or put message box because it is so hard to
 find a put that doesn't have an into
 
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread Jerry Daniels
Excellent ideas for tRev plugins.

Best,

Jerry Daniels

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On May 15, 2010, at 11:52 AM, stephen barncard 
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:

 Jerry had a function Find Orphaned Puts in GLX2 that would do this and
 I've been pestering him to reveal it or make a tRev plugin to use this. It
 worked well.
 
 Very useful for this old fashioned basic debugging tool .
 
 I'd make a variation - Delete all orphaned puts if it could be made
 foolproof.
 
 On 15 May 2010 09:42, william humphrey b...@bluewatermaritime.com wrote:
 
 I'm not sure it has only two words. I will try your suggestion though. It
 could be put variable1  variable2
 It sure teaches me to never do this again. Always explicitly call the
 message box. I wish RunRev would remove the feature...
 
 On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com
 wrote:
 
 Try putting the script in variable, and then finding the lineOffset of
 the
 line that contains put and has only 2 words.
 
 Scott Rossi
 Creative Director
 Tactile Media, UX Design
 
 On May 15, 2010, at 8:53 AM, william humphrey 
 b...@bluewatermaritime.com
 wrote:
 
 Jerry
 
 I'm asking this question on the RunRev forum because I want to announce
 here
 how much I love tRev. Anyway how do you search for a put that is like
 
 put variable
 
 and doesn't have an into so it opens the message box. I realize that
 I
 should have marked my code there or put message box because it is so
 hard
 to
 find a put that doesn't have an into
 
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread Mark Wieder
Scott-

Saturday, May 15, 2010, 9:58:47 AM, you wrote:

 The other thing to do is to make sure the line has no into.

...as in (untested, but you get the idea)

put yourScript into someVariable
filter someVariable with put*
filter someVariable without *into*

repeat for each line tLine in someVariable
  put lineOffset(tLine, yourScript) into tPos
  if tPos is not 0 then
delete line tPos of yourScript
  end if
end repeat

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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread stephen barncard
collect the line numbers on the first pass, they ya gotta count backwards if
you delete lines, Mark. Repeat for each won't work unless the entire script
is rebuilt.

Do we need a  backwards offset??

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 Scott-

 Saturday, May 15, 2010, 9:58:47 AM, you wrote:

  The other thing to do is to make sure the line has no into.

 ...as in (untested, but you get the idea)

 put yourScript into someVariable
 filter someVariable with put*
 filter someVariable without *into*

 repeat for each line tLine in someVariable
  put lineOffset(tLine, yourScript) into tPos
  if tPos is not 0 then
delete line tPos of yourScript
  end if
 end repeat

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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread william humphrey
I really like the idea of there being a plug-in for tRev that finds
orphaned puts

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 1:43 PM, stephen barncard 
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:

 collect the line numbers on the first pass, they ya gotta count backwards
 if
 you delete lines, Mark. Repeat for each won't work unless the entire script
 is rebuilt.

 Do we need a  backwards offset??

 On 15 May 2010 10:33, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote:

  Scott-
 
  Saturday, May 15, 2010, 9:58:47 AM, you wrote:
 
   The other thing to do is to make sure the line has no into.
 
  ...as in (untested, but you get the idea)
 
  put yourScript into someVariable
  filter someVariable with put*
  filter someVariable without *into*
 
  repeat for each line tLine in someVariable
   put lineOffset(tLine, yourScript) into tPos
   if tPos is not 0 then
 delete line tPos of yourScript
   end if
  end repeat
 
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread william humphrey
Just went to the tRev site. There are some plug-ins there (ones that put
lists of cards, scripts etc into an email message) but no find orphan puts
plug-in
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread stephen barncard
I never said there was one.

No, Jerry in his wisdom, has left* *it up to us to develop it as an
exercise. So I'll probably do it if someone else doesn't. It's not
*that*much of a brain teaser.

On 15 May 2010 11:06, william humphrey b...@bluewatermaritime.com wrote:

 Just went to the tRev site. There are some plug-ins there (ones that put
 lists of cards, scripts etc into an email message) but no find orphan
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread william humphrey
Thanks (I started to say Stephen but I see I should say) everyone -- I
found my orphan put using

put yourScript into someVariable
filter someVariable with put*
filter someVariable without *into*

Except that you have to say

filter someVariable with *put* for it to work as there must be a space or
something before the word put

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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread stephen barncard
Inside the tRev plug environment, perhaps it would be easiest for your plug
script to  'comment out' all the instances of found puts  with a special
comment that could be easily found like  -- * put it. Otherwise you'd need
a dialog or something to do them individually unless it's a mass removal -
(which I would never trust!!)

On 15 May 2010 11:34, william humphrey b...@bluewatermaritime.com wrote:

 Thanks (I started to say Stephen but I see I should say) everyone -- I
 found my orphan put using

 put yourScript into someVariable
 filter someVariable with put*
 filter someVariable without *into*

 Except that you have to say

 filter someVariable with *put* for it to work as there must be a space or
 something before the word put

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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread Mark Wieder
william-

Saturday, May 15, 2010, 11:34:49 AM, you wrote:

 Except that you have to say

 filter someVariable with *put* for it to work as there must be a space or
 something before the word put

If you're thinking in generic terms, you'd need to do some more work
after that. Your example would also catch and delete

send sputter to card xyz
if tWord is in get,put,send,dispatch
save this stack -- I put this in a comment.

Checking for put as the first word in the line before deleting it
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread Mark Wieder
stephen-

Saturday, May 15, 2010, 10:43:22 AM, you wrote:

 collect the line numbers on the first pass, they ya gotta count backwards if
 you delete lines, Mark. Repeat for each won't work unless the entire script
 is rebuilt.

It's not collecting line numbers, otherwise it would indeed run into
that problem. Just collecting actual text, and finding the lineoffset
in the loop.

 Do we need a  backwards offset??

I'd love it if the third optional parameter for the xOffset commands
could be negative, saying start from the end instead of from the
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread stephen barncard
makes sense. Should have run the code. Sorry to jump to conclusions.

On 15 May 2010 12:01, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote:

 stephen-

 Saturday, May 15, 2010, 10:43:22 AM, you wrote:

  collect the line numbers on the first pass, they ya gotta count backwards
 if
  you delete lines, Mark. Repeat for each won't work unless the entire
 script
  is rebuilt.

 It's not collecting line numbers, otherwise it would indeed run into
 that problem. Just collecting actual text, and finding the lineoffset
 in the loop.

  Do we need a  backwards offset??

 I'd love it if the third optional parameter for the xOffset commands
 could be negative, saying start from the end instead of from the
 beginning.

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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread Mark Wieder
stephen-

Saturday, May 15, 2010, 3:44:39 PM, you wrote:

 makes sense. Should have run the code. Sorry to jump to conclusions.

Well, as I pointed out, I didn't actually run it myself. But while I
was writing it I noticed that deleting lines might be a problem,
thought it through and figured that it *probably* wasn't.

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Re: driven mad by the message box!

2009-12-14 Thread william humphrey
He must be running Linux.
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Re: driven mad by the message box!

2009-12-14 Thread Peter Alcibiades

Yes, its Debian. at the moment its Squeeze.  Haven't tried on anything else
yet.  It turns out to happen only in the IDE, but it happens with
development tools turned off and just about everything changed one way or
the other that I could think of.  But it was a great relief to finally
discover that when the app is launched from a little launching stack in the
usual way, it doesn't happen.  As long as the app will run properly from the
launcher it doesn't matter so much.  What is weird is, it never happened
before, but I don't recall whether in other uses of shell() I ever tried it
from the IDE.

These things are sent to make us into a better person. Not completely sure
they are succeeding.


william humphrey-2 wrote:
 
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driven mad by the message box!

2009-12-13 Thread Peter Alcibiades
Does anyone know why 

put shell()

should bring up the message box, showing the last command exectuted from it 
(and not the command that was executed by the shell() step in the script?

I've been racking my brains for an hour or more, trying just about 
everything I can think of, and nothing will stop the thing.  Well, there is 
one thing that will stop it.  The second time you execute the command, the 
message box closes.  I don't know why it opened, and have even less idea 
why it should then close!

Also, there is a small button or checkbox at the top left of the message 
box.  What is it for?  I can't see that it does anything, but it can 
definitely be checked or unchecked.

Any suggestions most gratefully received.

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Re: driven mad by the message box!

2009-12-13 Thread J. Landman Gay

Peter Alcibiades wrote:
Does anyone know why 


put shell()

should bring up the message box, showing the last command exectuted from it 
(and not the command that was executed by the shell() step in the script?


I've been racking my brains for an hour or more, trying just about 
everything I can think of, and nothing will stop the thing.  Well, there is 
one thing that will stop it.  The second time you execute the command, the 
message box closes.  I don't know why it opened, and have even less idea 
why it should then close!


I think it opens because the shell command always returns via stndout, 
and the message box is where the return value will go if you use put 
without specifying a variable. What I don't get is why it closes again. 
It should stay open. What command are you sending?


Did you get a return value for the first command? If it hasn't returned 
yet, then maybe you're seeing the results of that one, and the second, 
expected one hasn't come back yet. Long shot, I know.




Also, there is a small button or checkbox at the top left of the message 
box.  What is it for?  I can't see that it does anything, but it can 
definitely be checked or unchecked.


I don't see that, or maybe I don't know where to look. What OS are you 
running?


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Re: Message Box History

2009-11-25 Thread Howard Bornstein
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.comwrote:

 I thought I vaguely recalled a way to pull up message box history.  Maybe
 I'm thinking of some plugin.


I know you can use the up and down arrow keys to cycle through the history
of previous items in the message box, but I don't know off-hand a way to see
the entire list at once. Maybe someone else knows that trick.

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Re: Message Box History

2009-11-25 Thread DunbarX
I modified the script of the message field in the message box for my own 
purposes, but if you add just one line to the enterInField and 
returnInField handlers there, you can send the contents of the field to some 
storage 
facility every time you use it:

put me [ the date  the time]  return after yourMessageHistoryContainer

Never had an issue with it, though it is fiddling with the IDE a bit.

Craig Newman
In a message dated 11/25/09 3:29:09 PM, howard.bornst...@gmail.com writes:


 I know you can use the up and down arrow keys to cycle through the 
 history
 of previous items in the message box, but I don't know off-hand a way to 
 see
 the entire list at once. Maybe someone else knows that trick.
 

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Re: Message Box History

2009-11-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Howard-

Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 12:28:56 PM, you wrote:

 I know you can use the up and down arrow keys to cycle through the history
 of previous items in the message box, but I don't know off-hand a way to see
 the entire list at once. Maybe someone else knows that trick.

put the cREVSingleLineHistory of stack revPreferences

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Re: Message Box History

2009-11-25 Thread stephen barncard
The late Eric Chatonet's Message Box picker  might be good.

http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/?r=revolutionl=en

Message Box Picker 1.1
Utility for Revolution Studio or Enterprise
Freeware
Additional functionalities for the message box
This utility reorganizes the message history and puts the messages into
chronological order, deletes any doubles and installs in the message box a
drop-down menu that can be completely personalized and that makes it
possible to bring up or to send a message with one mouse click.
Bilingual utility (installer and uninstaller.) Help stack is included.

Identical appearance on all platforms.
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2009/11/25 dunb...@aol.com

 I modified the script of the message field in the message box for my own
 purposes, but if you add just one line to the enterInField and
 returnInField handlers there, you can send the contents of the field to
 some storage
 facility every time you use it:

 put me [ the date  the time]  return after yourMessageHistoryContainer

 Never had an issue with it, though it is fiddling with the IDE a bit.

 Craig Newman
 In a message dated 11/25/09 3:29:09 PM, howard.bornst...@gmail.com writes:


  I know you can use the up and down arrow keys to cycle through the
  history
  of previous items in the message box, but I don't know off-hand a way to
  see
  the entire list at once. Maybe someone else knows that trick.
 

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Re: Message Box History

2009-11-25 Thread DunbarX
Now that is a much cleaner solution.

Once again, since I cannot remember anything anymore, where are this and 
similar underground goodies documented?

In a message dated 11/25/09 3:49:37 PM, mwie...@ahsoftware.net writes:


 put the cREVSingleLineHistory of stack revPreferences
 

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Re: Message Box History

2009-11-25 Thread Mikey
I would LOVE to know all the underground goodies, because I'd like to put
them into a Tao of RR document.

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 15:52, dunb...@aol.com wrote:

 Now that is a much cleaner solution.

 Once again, since I cannot remember anything anymore, where are this and
 similar underground goodies documented?

 In a message dated 11/25/09 3:49:37 PM, mwie...@ahsoftware.net writes:


  put the cREVSingleLineHistory of stack revPreferences
 

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Re: Message Box History

2009-11-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Craig-

Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 12:52:42 PM, you wrote:

 Now that is a much cleaner solution.

 Once again, since I cannot remember anything anymore, where are this and
 similar underground goodies documented?

You want all the undocumented stuff *documented*? Bwahaha...

Anyway, it's in the preOpenStack handler of stack MessageBox.
There's lots of stuff in custom properties of the revPreferences stack
that probably should be somewhere else, but that's where the IDE puts
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Re: Message Box History

2009-11-25 Thread Richard Gaskin

DunbarX wrote:

Once again, since I cannot remember anything anymore, where are this and 
similar underground goodies documented?


Many of them aren't; I'm still waiting for a leak on all the options for 
the _internal command.


But there's a lot of good stuff in the Engine Change Log, down in the 
section toward the bottom labeled Currently Unsupported Feature.


Here's one related to the Message Box that's kinda cool if you need it:

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the revMessageBoxRedirect
~

This global property allows you to configure what happens when the value 
of the 'msg' pseudo-variable changes.


When set to empty, the old behaviour will be used.

When set to the long id of a field, the old behaviour is replicated but 
instead of 'msg' being put into field 1 of card 1 of stack Message 
Box, it is put into the target field. (Note that this form will also 
cause the field's stack to be modeless'ed and raised).


When set to the long id of a non-field object, the specified object will 
receive a 'msgChanged' message meaning that you have complete control 
over what to do with the updated value of 'msg'.


NB. This property is only available in the IDE engine.

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Re: Message Box History

2009-11-25 Thread J. Landman Gay

dunb...@aol.com wrote:


Once again, since I cannot remember anything anymore, where are this and 
similar underground goodies documented?


They aren't, because they are part of the IDE code. They're just custom 
handlers and properties, meant only for internal use, like anything we'd 
write ourselves. But you can go digging and find stuff if you're brave 
enough. Just note that because they're internal, they are subject to 
change without notice.


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Re: Newbie question - Using multi-line message box

2009-10-16 Thread Kay C Lan
A while ago I recommended Ukelele to Richmond who wanted to change his Caps
Lock key into a Shift Lock key. I understand it did the job. Basically
Ukelele a GUI for modifying .keylayout files on OS X. If you have two Option
keys you should be able to turn one of them into Enter. Actually you can
turn any key into Enter.

You'll find it here:

http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsiitem_id=ukelele

As far as I know, the only difference between UK, USA, MB and MBP keyboards
are some graphics and their .keylayout files.

HTH

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote:


 On Oct 14, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Jim Sims wrote:

  There has been a difference in UK and USA keyboards for years.

 My UK keyboard has an alt/option key to the right of the command key
SPACE BAR  - CMD KEY  -  ALT/OPTION KEY

 My USA keyboard has:
SPACE BAR  - CMD KEY  -  ENTER KEY


 It's not just a US/UK thing, my colleague's keyboard has the option key
 where I have the enter key, and they're both US keyboard. Mine is a 17 inch
 MBP though, and that could be partly why there's a difference.



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Re: Newbie question - Using multi-line message box

2009-10-16 Thread Jim Sims


On Oct 16, 2009, at 8:11 AM, Kay C Lan wrote:

As far as I know, the only difference between UK, USA, MB and MBP  
keyboards

are some graphics and their .keylayout files.


The Return key on my UK keyboard uses up the far right space of two  
rows, it is sort of like an upsidedown L shape. That means that the |  
and \ keys are moved down one row lower than on the the USA keyboard  
to make room for the top half of the UK Return key.


The UK return key is also narrower on the bottom row it occupies than  
all other keys but on the top it is the same width as most other keys.


On my USA keyboard both Shift keys are the same size, unlike the UK  
which has a much smaller key on the left.


I place my 17 Mac up off my desk for better ergonomics (not beding my  
back over) and use a wireless keyboard when at home. When out with the  
Mac I go back to the USA built-in keys. I've adapted.


I rescued that UK keyboard from a cruel beating and excessive verbal  
abuse as my partner Cloe, a touch typist, could not adapt to what she  
considered 'wrong behavior' in a keyboard.   ;-)



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Re: Newbie question - Using multi-line message box

2009-10-15 Thread Andre.Bisseret


Le 15 oct. 09 à 00:52, Andre Garzia a écrit :

mine is british... it even has that silly pound symbol that I will  
never use

here in Brasil...


Bonjour,
Are you sure ? ;-)
One french saying is : Il ne faut pas dire : fontaine je ne boirai pas  
de ton eau (something like : don't say : Fountain I shall not drink  
your water) ;-))

Just an example :
Suppose you have to display a picture in a scrolling text field,
then pound symbol (as few others) could be useful, insofar you are  
sure it will not appear in the text,


so no problem when setting its imageSource  ;-)))

Best regards from Grenoble

André

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Newbie question - Using multi-line message box

2009-10-14 Thread william humphrey
When you're using a mac-laptop the enter key is a combination enter key and
returnkey. So if you want to run a multi-line script you have to hold the
function key down on the mac laptop keyboard and hit the return key for it
to be an enter key. I spent ten minutes or so trying to find another way to
do this (there usually is another way) but could not find a button or
anything in the RunRev IDE that would run a multi-line script if you don't
have an enter key.
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Re: Newbie question - Using multi-line message box

2009-10-14 Thread Andre Garzia
use the FN key on the mac to make your return an enter... now, hold
CMD+FN+RETURN and soon we'll ressemble emacs in its cumbersome keychords...

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 4:10 PM, william humphrey 
b...@bluewatermaritime.com wrote:

 When you're using a mac-laptop the enter key is a combination enter key and
 returnkey. So if you want to run a multi-line script you have to hold the
 function key down on the mac laptop keyboard and hit the return key for it
 to be an enter key. I spent ten minutes or so trying to find another way to
 do this (there usually is another way) but could not find a button or
 anything in the RunRev IDE that would run a multi-line script if you don't
 have an enter key.
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Re: Newbie question - Using multi-line message box

2009-10-14 Thread Richmond Mathewson

william humphrey wrote:

When you're using a mac-laptop the enter key is a combination enter key and
returnkey. So if you want to run a multi-line script you have to hold the
function key down on the mac laptop keyboard and hit the return key for it
to be an enter key. I spent ten minutes or so trying to find another way to
do this (there usually is another way) but could not find a button or
anything in the RunRev IDE that would run a multi-line script if you don't
have an enter key.
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Re: Newbie question - Using multi-line message box

2009-10-14 Thread Colin Holgate


On Oct 14, 2009, at 3:10 PM, william humphrey wrote:


So if you want to run a multi-line script you have to hold the
function key down on the mac laptop keyboard and hit the return key  
for it

to be an enter key


For what it's worth, the MacBook Pro I have has an Enter key to the  
right of the right-side command key, and that works as an Enter key  
should. I see that MacBooks have a second Option key there instead.



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Re: Newbie question - Using multi-line message box

2009-10-14 Thread Andre Garzia
my macbook pro has a second option key as well... :-/

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote:


 On Oct 14, 2009, at 3:10 PM, william humphrey wrote:

  So if you want to run a multi-line script you have to hold the
 function key down on the mac laptop keyboard and hit the return key for it
 to be an enter key


 For what it's worth, the MacBook Pro I have has an Enter key to the right
 of the right-side command key, and that works as an Enter key should. I see
 that MacBooks have a second Option key there instead.



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Re: Newbie question - Using multi-line message box

2009-10-14 Thread Devin Asay


On Oct 14, 2009, at 1:32 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:



On Oct 14, 2009, at 3:10 PM, william humphrey wrote:


So if you want to run a multi-line script you have to hold the
function key down on the mac laptop keyboard and hit the return key
for it
to be an enter key


For what it's worth, the MacBook Pro I have has an Enter key to the
right of the right-side command key, and that works as an Enter key
should. I see that MacBooks have a second Option key there instead.


As do the newest MacBook Pros. :-( Have to use the function modifier  
key now for Enter key.



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Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
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Missing Enter Key - was Using multi-line message box

2009-10-14 Thread Paul Looney

William,
I have four different Mac laptops and the Function, Enter, and Option  
keys are in different places on each. I expect the next round of  
Apple keyboards to rearrange them again.

So, I use a USB Unicomp Model M keyboard.
I can attach it to any of the laptops (or any desktop) and the keys  
are always where I expect them to be.

In addition:
1. the keys use the classic IBM buckling spring key-switch -  
infinitely better than spongy laptop scissor switches

2. when I'm ready to trade in the laptop, the keys look like new
3. this particular keyboard seems to be indestructible (some have  
been in daily use for over 25 years)

4. the layout is the same from year to year (even decade to decade)
It is about $70 at:

http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net/en104bl.html

For $10 more they will include a set of Command and Option keys to  
make it look more Mac-like. This is not noted on the web-site, you  
have to call and ask. By the way, I bought the key caps but never  
found it necessary to install them (alt = option; windows = command).
Do note: except for the USB, this is same as the 1984 IBM Model M;  
feels just as good - and sounds just as loud.


If the concept of an external keyboard appeals to you but the M is  
too big, consider the Mac Mini Pro from


http://www.fentek-ind.com/kbmmacusb.htm

It has full-sized keys but no number pad. I use it when I travel.

On some versions of OS X you can also use Apple's System Preferences  
to re-purpose keys (for instance, to make the right Option key an  
Enter key).  KeyReMap4Macbook


ttp://www.pqrs.org/tekezo/macosx/keyremap4macbook/

will do the same thing on any version of OS X and I think it is  
easier to use.

Paul Looney

On Oct 14, 2009, at 12:10 PM, william humphrey wrote:

When you're using a mac-laptop the enter key is a combination enter  
key and
returnkey. So if you want to run a multi-line script you have to  
hold the
function key down on the mac laptop keyboard and hit the return key  
for it
to be an enter key. I spent ten minutes or so trying to find  
another way to

do this (there usually is another way) but could not find a button or
anything in the RunRev IDE that would run a multi-line script if  
you don't

have an enter key.
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Re: Missing Enter Key - was Using multi-line message box

2009-10-14 Thread Andre Garzia
If you like clicky keyboards, don't forget to check out Das Keyboard, it
is more expensive than those listed before but some people swear by them.
http://www.daskeyboard.com/daskeyboard_model_s_professional.php

It appeals to the model M fans out there...

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Paul Looney supp...@ahsomme.com wrote:

 William,
 I have four different Mac laptops and the Function, Enter, and Option keys
 are in different places on each. I expect the next round of Apple keyboards
 to rearrange them again.
 So, I use a USB Unicomp Model M keyboard.
 I can attach it to any of the laptops (or any desktop) and the keys are
 always where I expect them to be.
 In addition:
 1. the keys use the classic IBM buckling spring key-switch - infinitely
 better than spongy laptop scissor switches
 2. when I'm ready to trade in the laptop, the keys look like new
 3. this particular keyboard seems to be indestructible (some have been in
 daily use for over 25 years)
 4. the layout is the same from year to year (even decade to decade)
 It is about $70 at:

 http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net/en104bl.html

 For $10 more they will include a set of Command and Option keys to make it
 look more Mac-like. This is not noted on the web-site, you have to call and
 ask. By the way, I bought the key caps but never found it necessary to
 install them (alt = option; windows = command).
 Do note: except for the USB, this is same as the 1984 IBM Model M; feels
 just as good - and sounds just as loud.

 If the concept of an external keyboard appeals to you but the M is too
 big, consider the Mac Mini Pro from

 http://www.fentek-ind.com/kbmmacusb.htm

 It has full-sized keys but no number pad. I use it when I travel.

 On some versions of OS X you can also use Apple's System Preferences to
 re-purpose keys (for instance, to make the right Option key an Enter key).
  KeyReMap4Macbook

 ttp://www.pqrs.org/tekezo/macosx/keyremap4macbook/

 will do the same thing on any version of OS X and I think it is easier to
 use.
 Paul Looney

 On Oct 14, 2009, at 12:10 PM, william humphrey wrote:

  When you're using a mac-laptop the enter key is a combination enter key
 and
 returnkey. So if you want to run a multi-line script you have to hold the
 function key down on the mac laptop keyboard and hit the return key for it
 to be an enter key. I spent ten minutes or so trying to find another way
 to
 do this (there usually is another way) but could not find a button or
 anything in the RunRev IDE that would run a multi-line script if you don't
 have an enter key.
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Re: Newbie question - Using multi-line message box

2009-10-14 Thread Richard Gaskin

Devin Asay wrote:

On Oct 14, 2009, at 1:32 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:

For what it's worth, the MacBook Pro I have has an Enter key to the
right of the right-side command key, and that works as an Enter key
should. I see that MacBooks have a second Option key there instead.


As do the newest MacBook Pros. :-( Have to use the function modifier  
key now for Enter key.


Is there a Preference or alternate keyboard map to regain that lost key?

Between that and the full-glare reflective screen it's enough to keep me 
from upgrading my MBP for a while.


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Re: Newbie question - Using multi-line message box

2009-10-14 Thread Alex Tweedly

Richard Gaskin wrote:


Between that and the full-glare reflective screen it's enough to keep 
me from upgrading my MBP for a while.



The matte screen is available (as a $50 option !!) for both 15- and 17- 
inch MBPs


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Re: Missing Enter Key - was Using multi-line message box

2009-10-14 Thread Paul Looney

Andre,
I have not tried Das Keyboard. I understand they have a newer model  
that has labeled keys (instead of all black). Still, why pay more for  
it than a genuine model M and get dome switches instead of buckling  
springs?

Have you tried it?
PL

On Oct 14, 2009, at 1:57 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:

If you like clicky keyboards, don't forget to check out Das  
Keyboard, it
is more expensive than those listed before but some people swear by  
them.

http://www.daskeyboard.com/daskeyboard_model_s_professional.php

It appeals to the model M fans out there...

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Paul Looney supp...@ahsomme.com  
wrote:



William,
I have four different Mac laptops and the Function, Enter, and  
Option keys
are in different places on each. I expect the next round of Apple  
keyboards

to rearrange them again.
So, I use a USB Unicomp Model M keyboard.
I can attach it to any of the laptops (or any desktop) and the  
keys are

always where I expect them to be.
In addition:
1. the keys use the classic IBM buckling spring key-switch -  
infinitely

better than spongy laptop scissor switches
2. when I'm ready to trade in the laptop, the keys look like new
3. this particular keyboard seems to be indestructible (some have  
been in

daily use for over 25 years)
4. the layout is the same from year to year (even decade to decade)
It is about $70 at:

http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net/en104bl.html

For $10 more they will include a set of Command and Option keys to  
make it
look more Mac-like. This is not noted on the web-site, you have to  
call and
ask. By the way, I bought the key caps but never found it  
necessary to

install them (alt = option; windows = command).
Do note: except for the USB, this is same as the 1984 IBM Model  
M; feels

just as good - and sounds just as loud.

If the concept of an external keyboard appeals to you but the M  
is too

big, consider the Mac Mini Pro from

http://www.fentek-ind.com/kbmmacusb.htm

It has full-sized keys but no number pad. I use it when I travel.

On some versions of OS X you can also use Apple's System  
Preferences to
re-purpose keys (for instance, to make the right Option key an  
Enter key).

 KeyReMap4Macbook

ttp://www.pqrs.org/tekezo/macosx/keyremap4macbook/

will do the same thing on any version of OS X and I think it is  
easier to

use.
Paul Looney

On Oct 14, 2009, at 12:10 PM, william humphrey wrote:

 When you're using a mac-laptop the enter key is a combination  
enter key

and
returnkey. So if you want to run a multi-line script you have to  
hold the
function key down on the mac laptop keyboard and hit the return  
key for it
to be an enter key. I spent ten minutes or so trying to find  
another way

to
do this (there usually is another way) but could not find a  
button or
anything in the RunRev IDE that would run a multi-line script if  
you don't

have an enter key.
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Re: Newbie question - Using multi-line message box

2009-10-14 Thread Jim Sims

On Oct 14, 2009, at 1:32 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:

For what it's worth, the MacBook Pro I have has an Enter key to the
right of the right-side command key, and that works as an Enter key
should. I see that MacBooks have a second Option key there instead.
As do the newest MacBook Pros. :-( Have to use the function  
modifier  key now for Enter key.



There has been a difference in UK and USA keyboards for years.

My UK keyboard has an alt/option key to the right of the command key
 SPACE BAR  - CMD KEY  -  ALT/OPTION KEY

My USA keyboard has:
 SPACE BAR  - CMD KEY  -  ENTER KEY

There are a few other differences that make me like the US keyboard  
more but that's another story.


Are you saying that now both UK and USA keyboards lack an Enter key?

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Re: Missing Enter Key - was Using multi-line message box

2009-10-14 Thread Andre Garzia
They have a keyboard with labels now... I haven't tried it yet. I like my
microsoft wireless one, it is not fancy but it gets me around.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Paul Looney supp...@ahsomme.com wrote:

 Andre,
 I have not tried Das Keyboard. I understand they have a newer model that
 has labeled keys (instead of all black). Still, why pay more for it than a
 genuine model M and get dome switches instead of buckling springs?
 Have you tried it?
 PL


 On Oct 14, 2009, at 1:57 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:

  If you like clicky keyboards, don't forget to check out Das Keyboard, it
 is more expensive than those listed before but some people swear by them.
 http://www.daskeyboard.com/daskeyboard_model_s_professional.php

 It appeals to the model M fans out there...

 On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Paul Looney supp...@ahsomme.com wrote:

  William,
 I have four different Mac laptops and the Function, Enter, and Option
 keys
 are in different places on each. I expect the next round of Apple
 keyboards
 to rearrange them again.
 So, I use a USB Unicomp Model M keyboard.
 I can attach it to any of the laptops (or any desktop) and the keys are
 always where I expect them to be.
 In addition:
 1. the keys use the classic IBM buckling spring key-switch - infinitely
 better than spongy laptop scissor switches
 2. when I'm ready to trade in the laptop, the keys look like new
 3. this particular keyboard seems to be indestructible (some have been in
 daily use for over 25 years)
 4. the layout is the same from year to year (even decade to decade)
 It is about $70 at:

 http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net/en104bl.html

 For $10 more they will include a set of Command and Option keys to make
 it
 look more Mac-like. This is not noted on the web-site, you have to call
 and
 ask. By the way, I bought the key caps but never found it necessary to
 install them (alt = option; windows = command).
 Do note: except for the USB, this is same as the 1984 IBM Model M;
 feels
 just as good - and sounds just as loud.

 If the concept of an external keyboard appeals to you but the M is too
 big, consider the Mac Mini Pro from

 http://www.fentek-ind.com/kbmmacusb.htm

 It has full-sized keys but no number pad. I use it when I travel.

 On some versions of OS X you can also use Apple's System Preferences to
 re-purpose keys (for instance, to make the right Option key an Enter
 key).
  KeyReMap4Macbook

 ttp://www.pqrs.org/tekezo/macosx/keyremap4macbook/

 will do the same thing on any version of OS X and I think it is easier to
 use.
 Paul Looney

 On Oct 14, 2009, at 12:10 PM, william humphrey wrote:

  When you're using a mac-laptop the enter key is a combination enter key

 and
 returnkey. So if you want to run a multi-line script you have to hold
 the
 function key down on the mac laptop keyboard and hit the return key for
 it
 to be an enter key. I spent ten minutes or so trying to find another way
 to
 do this (there usually is another way) but could not find a button or
 anything in the RunRev IDE that would run a multi-line script if you
 don't
 have an enter key.
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Re: Newbie question - Using multi-line message box

2009-10-14 Thread Colin Holgate


On Oct 14, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Jim Sims wrote:


There has been a difference in UK and USA keyboards for years.

My UK keyboard has an alt/option key to the right of the command key
SPACE BAR  - CMD KEY  -  ALT/OPTION KEY

My USA keyboard has:
SPACE BAR  - CMD KEY  -  ENTER KEY


It's not just a US/UK thing, my colleague's keyboard has the option  
key where I have the enter key, and they're both US keyboard. Mine is  
a 17 inch MBP though, and that could be partly why there's a difference.



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Re: Newbie question - Using multi-line message box

2009-10-14 Thread Andre Garzia
mine is british... it even has that silly pound symbol that I will never use
here in Brasil...

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Jim Sims s...@ezpzapps.com wrote:

  On Oct 14, 2009, at 1:32 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:

 For what it's worth, the MacBook Pro I have has an Enter key to the
 right of the right-side command key, and that works as an Enter key
 should. I see that MacBooks have a second Option key there instead.

 As do the newest MacBook Pros. :-( Have to use the function modifier  key
 now for Enter key.



 There has been a difference in UK and USA keyboards for years.

 My UK keyboard has an alt/option key to the right of the command key
 SPACE BAR  - CMD KEY  -  ALT/OPTION KEY

 My USA keyboard has:
 SPACE BAR  - CMD KEY  -  ENTER KEY

 There are a few other differences that make me like the US keyboard more
 but that's another story.

 Are you saying that now both UK and USA keyboards lack an Enter key?

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Re: Putting Stuff Before the Message Box

2009-08-20 Thread Gregory Lypny

I agree, Jim.  Not worth the risk or the bother.

Gregory

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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:50:08 -0700
From: Jim Ault jimaultw...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Putting Stuff Before the Message Box
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Just chiming in at the end of the thread.

In the PHP environment on a web server there is a special memory area
called output buffer

This has various maintenance functions built in to the PHP system,
such as
  ob_start();ob_flush();  ob_implicit();  ob_clean();

and these facilitate building the characters that get sent back to a
browser, etc.
It is not a good idea to treat this as the normal PHP variable, such
as $myDataString.

The message box stack is also a special area that began its life in
Hypercard 1.0
Back then it was unchangeable.
Now that you can dive into the Rev library stack and modify scripts,
please use caution because there are globals and settings that are
interconnected between libraries.  You might find strange behaviors
that cannot easily be traced.

It is cool that we can get under the hood and make such changes.
My preference is not to do this since Rev is how I make my living.

Jim Ault
Las Vegas


On Aug 19, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Gregory Lypny wrote:


Thanks for thoughtful responses Craig, Peter, and Shao,

So, it wasn't the meds.  As I mostly use the message box for dumping
the results  of rough tests, it's good to know its idiosyncrasies so
I don't mistakenly think I've goofed.

Regards,

Gregory




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You cannot put stuff before the Message Box

2009-08-19 Thread DunbarX
The thing here is that if there is already a selection in the message box, 
a blinking cursor or hillited text, you cannot select before (or after) 
either the results field or the message field. It only works if there is no 
selection at all. 

Trying to do so selects all the text in the message field, even if you 
explicitly name the results field. This is written into the IDE. Some people 
find this counterintuitive. I'll bet you do too.

It can be unwritten; see my last two posts.

Craig Newman


In a message dated 8/18/09 9:12:06 PM, shaos...@wehostmacs.com writes:


 put WHATEVER before fld results of stack message box
 

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Re: You cannot put stuff before the Message Box

2009-08-19 Thread DunbarX
The title seemed cute, but misleading. This thread is not about putting 
text before (or after) the msg box, it is about selecting in the message   box.
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Re: You cannot put stuff before the Message Box

2009-08-19 Thread Mark Schonewille

Craig,

on mouseUp
 repeat with x = 1 to 10
  put x  cr  msg
 end repeat
end mouseUp

Btw I have always considered the results in the message box as  
something uneditable and have no problems with that.


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On 19 aug 2009, at 15:05, dunb...@aol.com wrote:

The thing here is that if there is already a selection in the  
message box,
a blinking cursor or hillited text, you cannot select before (or  
after)
either the results field or the message field. It only works if  
there is no

selection at all.

Trying to do so selects all the text in the message field, even if  
you
explicitly name the results field. This is written into the IDE.  
Some people

find this counterintuitive. I'll bet you do too.

It can be unwritten; see my last two posts.

Craig Newman


In a message dated 8/18/09 9:12:06 PM, shaos...@wehostmacs.com writes:



put WHATEVER before fld results of stack message box



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Re: You cannot put stuff before the Message Box

2009-08-19 Thread Mark Schonewille

oh... :-) Forget about my previous post then.

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On 19 aug 2009, at 15:09, dunb...@aol.com wrote:

The title seemed cute, but misleading. This thread is not about  
putting
text before (or after) the msg box, it is about selecting in the  
message   box.



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Re: You cannot put stuff before the Message Box

2009-08-19 Thread DunbarX
Mark.

Right, it is not about putting text, it is about selecting.

Craig
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Re: Putting Stuff Before the Message Box

2009-08-19 Thread Gregory Lypny

Thanks for thoughtful responses Craig, Peter, and Shao,

So, it wasn't the meds.  As I mostly use the message box for dumping  
the results  of rough tests, it's good to know its idiosyncrasies so I  
don't mistakenly think I've goofed.


Regards,

Gregory


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Re: Putting Stuff Before the Message Box

2009-08-19 Thread Jim Ault

Just chiming in at the end of the thread.

In the PHP environment on a web server there is a special memory area  
called output buffer


This has various maintenance functions built in to the PHP system,  
such as

  ob_start();ob_flush();  ob_implicit();  ob_clean();

and these facilitate building the characters that get sent back to a  
browser, etc.
It is not a good idea to treat this as the normal PHP variable, such  
as $myDataString.


The message box stack is also a special area that began its life in  
Hypercard 1.0

Back then it was unchangeable.
Now that you can dive into the Rev library stack and modify scripts,  
please use caution because there are globals and settings that are  
interconnected between libraries.  You might find strange behaviors  
that cannot easily be traced.


It is cool that we can get under the hood and make such changes.
My preference is not to do this since Rev is how I make my living.

Jim Ault
Las Vegas


On Aug 19, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Gregory Lypny wrote:


Thanks for thoughtful responses Craig, Peter, and Shao,

So, it wasn't the meds.  As I mostly use the message box for dumping  
the results  of rough tests, it's good to know its idiosyncrasies so  
I don't mistakenly think I've goofed.


Regards,

Gregory


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Re: Putting Stuff Before the Message Box

2009-08-18 Thread Peter Brigham MD
I think this is a bug in the way the messagebox is implemented. The  
messagebox is a very tricky thing -- lots going on behind the curtain,  
re handling things like this stack, the message path, etc. It  
appears that they made it easy to put things after msg but not  
before msg. Others may know more about the details of this.


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On Aug 17, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Gregory Lypny wrote:


Hello again,

I apologize in advance.  Maybe it's the meds.  I created a list with  
three lines:


put One  return  Two  return  Three into theList

I want to have the message box display

3
One
Two
Three


Why does

put theList
put the number of lines in theList  return before msg

put only 3 into the message box and not the list itself?

But

  put the number of lines in theList
  put return  theList after msg

works fine.

Can the message box not handle before?


Gregory
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Re: Putting Stuff Before the Message Box

2009-08-18 Thread DunbarX
Peter.

I ran into this during my learning, and unlearning, of rev, coming from HC.

Try these two short scripts, perhaps in a button;

on mouseUp
select before text of fld message field of stack   message box
end mouseUp

on mouseUp
put select before text of fld  quote  message field  quote  
of stack  quote  message box  quote into temp
send temp to this stack in 15
end mouseUp

The first one selects before msg, as long as there is no selection in msg. 
Otherwise it selects the whole line.

The second works always.

It is just the way Rev works. I have modified my msg box, carefully, to 
make it work more like HC. I have been warned this is a dicey thing to do.

Craig Newman
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Re: Putting Stuff Before the Message Box

2009-08-18 Thread DunbarX
Peter.
Since you seem to be into msg stuff, here is another of my changes to the 
msg box.

Make a field yourField with some text in it. If you write in the message 
box something like:

select word 2 of field yourField

The text hilite will not persist.   I hated that, and with a little help 
from my friends, found that if you comment out a bit of code in the message 
box, you can have what I consider normal behavior, that is, that the command 
to select text in a field does, in fact, select that text.

Starting at line 442 (in v.3.0) or line 375 (in v. 3.5) in the script of 
fld Message Field of stack message box, comment out the following code:

if the mode of stack kStackName is not 0 and edit script of is not in the 
text of me then 
   select the text of field Message Field of stack kStackName
end if

Now the hilite will persist in the target field. like the good Lord 
intended.

Craig Newman
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Re: Putting Stuff Before the Message Box

2009-08-18 Thread Shao Sean

put WHATEVER before fld results of stack message box
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Putting Stuff Before the Message Box

2009-08-17 Thread Gregory Lypny

Hello again,

I apologize in advance.  Maybe it's the meds.  I created a list with  
three lines:


put One  return  Two  return  Three into theList

I want to have the message box display

3
One
Two
Three


Why does

put theList
put the number of lines in theList  return before msg

put only 3 into the message box and not the list itself?

But

   put the number of lines in theList
   put return  theList after msg

works fine.

Can the message box not handle before?


Gregory
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Re: Message box mild oddity

2009-03-27 Thread Colin Holgate

Try this:

on mouseUp
   put space  the selectedLine of me into fld message field of  
stack message box
   put select before text of fld  quote  message field  quote  
 of stack  quote  message box  quote into whattodo

   send whattodo to this stack in 30
end mouseUp



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Re: Message box mild oddity

2009-03-27 Thread DunbarX
And I thought I was the klugeMaster.

Craig


In a message dated 3/27/09 1:17:45 PM, co...@rcn.com writes:


 Try this:
 
 on mouseUp
     put space  the selectedLine of me into fld message field of 
 stack message box
     put select before text of fld  quote  message field  quote 
  of stack  quote  message box  quote into whattodo
     send whattodo to this stack in 30
 end mouseUp
 
 




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Re: Message box mild oddity

2009-03-27 Thread DunbarX
Colin:

On my machine, the wait time for the send command is about 50% effective if 
I wait 7 ticks. Perfect with 9, no go with 5.

Simply inserting a wait command line in lieu of the send line does nothing 
at all. The entire text is selected after whatever interval is specified. So 
why does the internal wait in the send command differ from a separate wait 
command? Sending the message somehow is different than simply executing the 
next 
line, just like coming from outside the field somehow seems to work just fine.

Craig.

In a message dated 3/27/09 1:17:45 PM, co...@rcn.com writes:


 Try this:
 
 on mouseUp
     put space  the selectedLine of me into fld message field of 
 stack message box
     put select before text of fld  quote  message field  quote 
  of stack  quote  message box  quote into whattodo
     send whattodo to this stack in 30
 end mouseUp
 
 



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Re: Message box mild oddity

2009-03-27 Thread Colin Holgate


On Mar 27, 2009, at 2:03 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote:


 So
why does the internal wait in the send command differ from a  
separate wait

command?


The send happens after the selecting of the message box text has  
happened. Doing an inline wait would be before the selecting of the  
message box will happen. I'm not surprised that changing the timing  
makes a difference, just use 10, and don't worry about wasting that  
sixth of a second of your life.



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Re: Message box mild oddity

2009-03-27 Thread DunbarX
Colin.

The text is put into msg
I wait
I select before the text of msg.

Or

The text is put into msg
I (you) load a variable with a command to select before the text of msg
I wait, and send the command.

Not the same order?

I have the time. I am trying to have the wherewithal. Remember, clicking 
outside the field makes the expected behavior happen back in the field. It is 
something about getting away from it all, which sending a message instead of 
executing yet another line of code might somehow do.

And then why would keeping the mouse down for (probably) 10 ticks always 
work? It is, after all, a mouseUp handler, and that delay works, though it 
should 
not. All I did was dally in releasing the button?

How do it know?

Craig




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 The send happens after the selecting of the message box text has 
 happened. Doing an inline wait would be before the selecting of the 
 message box will happen. I'm not surprised that changing the timing 
 makes a difference, just use 10, and don't worry about wasting that 
 sixth of a second of your life.
 
 




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Re: Message box mild oddity

2009-03-27 Thread Colin Holgate


On Mar 27, 2009, at 2:55 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote:


The text is put into msg
I wait
I select before the text of msg.

Or

The text is put into msg
I (you) load a variable with a command to select before the text of  
msg

I wait, and send the command.

Not the same order?


In the second case there were idle events between the text being put  
and the selection being set.


The holding the mouse down may be introducing stilldown events that  
could change the conditions.


You have bigger issues in your script anyway, such as it doesn't work  
if you haven't yet shown the message box.



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Re: Message box mild oddity

2009-03-27 Thread DunbarX
Picky.

In a message dated 3/27/09 3:03:57 PM, co...@rcn.com writes:


 
 You have bigger issues in your script anyway, such as it doesn't work 
 if you haven't yet shown the message box.
 




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strange interaction with message box

2009-03-02 Thread Andre.Bisseret

Bonjour,
Often I have navigation buttons on the cards of my stacks (prev, next,  
first) ; often too I use visual effects as

in this example of a script of a button :
on mouseUp
   visual effect scroll left very fast
  go next
end mouseUp

Now, for one month or so, if the message box is opened, the visual  
effect occurs on it, not on my stack  :-((


On the stack, it goes to next card (or prev etc) as expected, but  
without any visual effect !


The visual effect occurs on the stack only if the message box is closed.

What am I doing wrong ?

Thanks in advance for any idea

Best regards from Grenoble
André






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