Re: [DISCUSS][FLINK-33240] Document deprecated options as well

2023-11-01 Thread Zhanghao Chen
Hi Samrat and Ruan,

Thanks for the suggestion. I'm actually in favor of adding the deprecated 
options in the same section as the non-deprecated ones. This would make user 
search for descriptions of the replacement options more easily. It would be a 
different story for options deprecated because the related API/module is 
entirely deprecated, e.g. DataSet API. In that case, users would not search for 
replacement on an individual option but rather need to migrate to a new API, 
and it would be better to move these options to a separate section. WDYT?

Best,
Zhanghao Chen

From: Samrat Deb 
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 15:31
To: d...@flink.apache.org 
Cc: user@flink.apache.org 
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][FLINK-33240] Document deprecated options as well

Thanks for the proposal ,
+1 for adding deprecated identifier

[Thought] Can we have seperate section / page for deprecated configs ? Wdut
?


Bests,
Samrat


On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 at 3:44 PM, Alexander Fedulov <
alexander.fedu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Zhanghao,
>
> Thanks for the proposition.
> In general +1, this sounds like a good idea as long it is clear that the
> usage of these settings is discouraged.
> Just one minor concern - the configuration page is already very long, do
> you have a rough estimate of how many more options would be added with this
> change?
>
> Best,
> Alexander Fedulov
>
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 at 18:24, Matthias Pohl  .invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for your proposal, Zhanghao Chen. I think it adds more
> transparency
> > to the configuration documentation.
> >
> > +1 from my side on the proposal
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 2:09 PM Zhanghao Chen  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Flink users and developers,
> > >
> > > Currently, Flink won't generate doc for the deprecated options. This
> > might
> > > confuse users when upgrading from an older version of Flink: they have
> to
> > > either carefully read the release notes or check the source code for
> > > upgrade guidance on deprecated options.
> > >
> > > I propose to document deprecated options as well, with a "(deprecated)"
> > > tag placed at the beginning of the option description to highlight the
> > > deprecation status [1].
> > >
> > > Looking forward to your feedbacks on it.
> > >
> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-33240
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Zhanghao Chen
> > >
> >
>


Re: [DISCUSS][FLINK-33240] Document deprecated options as well

2023-11-01 Thread Zhanghao Chen
Hi Alexander,

I haven't done a complete analysis yet. But through simple code search, roughly 
35 options would be added with this change. Also note that some old options 
defined in a ConfigConstant class won's be added here as flink-doc won't 
discover these constant-based options.

Best,
Zhanghao Chen

From: Alexander Fedulov 
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 18:12
To: d...@flink.apache.org 
Cc: user@flink.apache.org 
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][FLINK-33240] Document deprecated options as well

Hi Zhanghao,

Thanks for the proposition.
In general +1, this sounds like a good idea as long it is clear that the usage 
of these settings is discouraged.
Just one minor concern - the configuration page is already very long, do you 
have a rough estimate of how many more options would be added with this change?

Best,
Alexander Fedulov

On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 at 18:24, Matthias Pohl  
wrote:
Thanks for your proposal, Zhanghao Chen. I think it adds more transparency
to the configuration documentation.

+1 from my side on the proposal

On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 2:09 PM Zhanghao Chen 
mailto:zhanghao.c...@outlook.com>>
wrote:

> Hi Flink users and developers,
>
> Currently, Flink won't generate doc for the deprecated options. This might
> confuse users when upgrading from an older version of Flink: they have to
> either carefully read the release notes or check the source code for
> upgrade guidance on deprecated options.
>
> I propose to document deprecated options as well, with a "(deprecated)"
> tag placed at the beginning of the option description to highlight the
> deprecation status [1].
>
> Looking forward to your feedbacks on it.
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-33240
>
> Best,
> Zhanghao Chen
>


Re: [DISCUSS][FLINK-33240] Document deprecated options as well

2023-11-01 Thread Hang Ruan
Thanks for the proposal.

+1 from my side and +1 for putting them to a separate section.

Best,
Hang

Samrat Deb  于2023年11月1日周三 15:32写道:

> Thanks for the proposal ,
> +1 for adding deprecated identifier
>
> [Thought] Can we have seperate section / page for deprecated configs ? Wdut
> ?
>
>
> Bests,
> Samrat
>
>
> On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 at 3:44 PM, Alexander Fedulov <
> alexander.fedu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Zhanghao,
> >
> > Thanks for the proposition.
> > In general +1, this sounds like a good idea as long it is clear that the
> > usage of these settings is discouraged.
> > Just one minor concern - the configuration page is already very long, do
> > you have a rough estimate of how many more options would be added with
> this
> > change?
> >
> > Best,
> > Alexander Fedulov
> >
> > On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 at 18:24, Matthias Pohl  > .invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for your proposal, Zhanghao Chen. I think it adds more
> > transparency
> > > to the configuration documentation.
> > >
> > > +1 from my side on the proposal
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 2:09 PM Zhanghao Chen <
> zhanghao.c...@outlook.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Flink users and developers,
> > > >
> > > > Currently, Flink won't generate doc for the deprecated options. This
> > > might
> > > > confuse users when upgrading from an older version of Flink: they
> have
> > to
> > > > either carefully read the release notes or check the source code for
> > > > upgrade guidance on deprecated options.
> > > >
> > > > I propose to document deprecated options as well, with a
> "(deprecated)"
> > > > tag placed at the beginning of the option description to highlight
> the
> > > > deprecation status [1].
> > > >
> > > > Looking forward to your feedbacks on it.
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-33240
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Zhanghao Chen
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


Re: [DISCUSS][FLINK-33240] Document deprecated options as well

2023-10-31 Thread Alexander Fedulov
Hi Zhanghao,

Thanks for the proposition.
In general +1, this sounds like a good idea as long it is clear that the
usage of these settings is discouraged.
Just one minor concern - the configuration page is already very long, do
you have a rough estimate of how many more options would be added with this
change?

Best,
Alexander Fedulov

On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 at 18:24, Matthias Pohl 
wrote:

> Thanks for your proposal, Zhanghao Chen. I think it adds more transparency
> to the configuration documentation.
>
> +1 from my side on the proposal
>
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 2:09 PM Zhanghao Chen 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Flink users and developers,
> >
> > Currently, Flink won't generate doc for the deprecated options. This
> might
> > confuse users when upgrading from an older version of Flink: they have to
> > either carefully read the release notes or check the source code for
> > upgrade guidance on deprecated options.
> >
> > I propose to document deprecated options as well, with a "(deprecated)"
> > tag placed at the beginning of the option description to highlight the
> > deprecation status [1].
> >
> > Looking forward to your feedbacks on it.
> >
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-33240
> >
> > Best,
> > Zhanghao Chen
> >
>


Re: [DISCUSS][FLINK-33240] Document deprecated options as well

2023-10-30 Thread Matthias Pohl via user
Thanks for your proposal, Zhanghao Chen. I think it adds more transparency
to the configuration documentation.

+1 from my side on the proposal

On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 2:09 PM Zhanghao Chen 
wrote:

> Hi Flink users and developers,
>
> Currently, Flink won't generate doc for the deprecated options. This might
> confuse users when upgrading from an older version of Flink: they have to
> either carefully read the release notes or check the source code for
> upgrade guidance on deprecated options.
>
> I propose to document deprecated options as well, with a "(deprecated)"
> tag placed at the beginning of the option description to highlight the
> deprecation status [1].
>
> Looking forward to your feedbacks on it.
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-33240
>
> Best,
> Zhanghao Chen
>


[DISCUSS][FLINK-33240] Document deprecated options as well

2023-10-11 Thread Zhanghao Chen
Hi Flink users and developers,

Currently, Flink won't generate doc for the deprecated options. This might 
confuse users when upgrading from an older version of Flink: they have to 
either carefully read the release notes or check the source code for upgrade 
guidance on deprecated options.

I propose to document deprecated options as well, with a "(deprecated)" tag 
placed at the beginning of the option description to highlight the deprecation 
status [1].

Looking forward to your feedbacks on it.

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-33240

Best,
Zhanghao Chen