Re: standard/benchmarking value for loading a web page
It's different for different business kind of webpage too You'l have to grab this as a NFS from your business. cheers, s On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Samaraweera, Ravinda ravindasamarawe...@kpmg.com wrote: Dear All, I have completed internal application's performance test and results are with me(Thanks for jmeter), I just need to know what are the standard/benchmarking loading time of a average web page.i.e. loging page, a search page, and a webpage with a grid with 15 rows and 5 columns of data (No images). Any suggestion much appreciated. Thanks. *** Disclaimer The information contained in this communication is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorised to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in reliance of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. KPMG is neither liable for the proper, complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor any delay in its receipt. ***
RE: standard/benchmarking value for loading a web page
I don't know about everyone else, but we use 'benchmark' to evaluate the difference between one release and the next. The value of benchmarking (to us) is to track the change in performance over time of our system. It certainly is nice to compare to some arbitrary standard, but that's only a secondary value - the primary goal is to make sure we are not getting slower with each release. -- Robin D. Wilson Sr. Director of Web Development KingsIsle Entertainment, Inc. VOICE: 512-777-1861 www.KingsIsle.com -Original Message- From: Shaba K [mailto:shabazi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 7:49 AM To: JMeter Users List Subject: Re: standard/benchmarking value for loading a web page It's different for different business kind of webpage too You'l have to grab this as a NFS from your business. cheers, s On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Samaraweera, Ravinda ravindasamarawe...@kpmg.com wrote: Dear All, I have completed internal application's performance test and results are with me(Thanks for jmeter), I just need to know what are the standard/benchmarking loading time of a average web page.i.e. loging page, a search page, and a webpage with a grid with 15 rows and 5 columns of data (No images). Any suggestion much appreciated. Thanks. *** Disclaimer The information contained in this communication is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorised to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in reliance of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. KPMG is neither liable for the proper, complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor any delay in its receipt. *** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscr...@jmeter.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: user-h...@jmeter.apache.org
Re: standard/benchmarking value for loading a web page
I would also recommend JMeter's wiki for this one. There you will find links references to resources useful that try to cover general concerns (regarding performance testing, industry standards/expectations, good approaches and also results interpretation). There aren't good quick answers, nothing short compensate for the experience of the people who wrote those materials. But since that might take a while, as a quick answer I would add that it depends A LOT on the type of page that you want to load. And you also have to know your end-users expectations... - users quit if pages are slow, usually, but if the data is very valuable to them, they might wait (you see there's a lot to talk about, for news pages and a blog page they won't wait too many seconds, if their banking page take 20s they might wait, if someone wants a report with analytics, they will wait minutes for it to load in the web page). So don't generalise, just make sure you understand stakeholders and end-users expectations first and then balance that on what your developers can deliver realistically. You decide what is acceptable or not. For industry standard, take a peek at the competition, see how they fair - try to beat that. --Adrian S On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Robin D. Wilson rwils...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know about everyone else, but we use 'benchmark' to evaluate the difference between one release and the next. The value of benchmarking (to us) is to track the change in performance over time of our system. It certainly is nice to compare to some arbitrary standard, but that's only a secondary value - the primary goal is to make sure we are not getting slower with each release. -- Robin D. Wilson Sr. Director of Web Development KingsIsle Entertainment, Inc. VOICE: 512-777-1861 www.KingsIsle.com -Original Message- From: Shaba K [mailto:shabazi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 7:49 AM To: JMeter Users List Subject: Re: standard/benchmarking value for loading a web page It's different for different business kind of webpage too You'l have to grab this as a NFS from your business. cheers, s On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Samaraweera, Ravinda ravindasamarawe...@kpmg.com wrote: Dear All, I have completed internal application's performance test and results are with me(Thanks for jmeter), I just need to know what are the standard/benchmarking loading time of a average web page.i.e. loging page, a search page, and a webpage with a grid with 15 rows and 5 columns of data (No images). Any suggestion much appreciated. Thanks. *** Disclaimer The information contained in this communication is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorised to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in reliance of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. KPMG is neither liable for the proper, complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor any delay in its receipt. *** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscr...@jmeter.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: user-h...@jmeter.apache.org
Re: standard/benchmarking value for loading a web page
Also a good start may be to get inputs from Omniture/Analytics team. Who have data which shows which page in website user frequently visits Though there are standards out there saying a page should load in less than 5 secs,However it is business or product owners who determine what it has to be or what is acceptable. There are ways of tweaking things. cheers, s On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Adrian Speteanu asp.ad...@gmail.comwrote: I would also recommend JMeter's wiki for this one. There you will find links references to resources useful that try to cover general concerns (regarding performance testing, industry standards/expectations, good approaches and also results interpretation). There aren't good quick answers, nothing short compensate for the experience of the people who wrote those materials. But since that might take a while, as a quick answer I would add that it depends A LOT on the type of page that you want to load. And you also have to know your end-users expectations... - users quit if pages are slow, usually, but if the data is very valuable to them, they might wait (you see there's a lot to talk about, for news pages and a blog page they won't wait too many seconds, if their banking page take 20s they might wait, if someone wants a report with analytics, they will wait minutes for it to load in the web page). So don't generalise, just make sure you understand stakeholders and end-users expectations first and then balance that on what your developers can deliver realistically. You decide what is acceptable or not. For industry standard, take a peek at the competition, see how they fair - try to beat that. --Adrian S On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Robin D. Wilson rwils...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know about everyone else, but we use 'benchmark' to evaluate the difference between one release and the next. The value of benchmarking (to us) is to track the change in performance over time of our system. It certainly is nice to compare to some arbitrary standard, but that's only a secondary value - the primary goal is to make sure we are not getting slower with each release. -- Robin D. Wilson Sr. Director of Web Development KingsIsle Entertainment, Inc. VOICE: 512-777-1861 www.KingsIsle.com -Original Message- From: Shaba K [mailto:shabazi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 7:49 AM To: JMeter Users List Subject: Re: standard/benchmarking value for loading a web page It's different for different business kind of webpage too You'l have to grab this as a NFS from your business. cheers, s On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Samaraweera, Ravinda ravindasamarawe...@kpmg.com wrote: Dear All, I have completed internal application's performance test and results are with me(Thanks for jmeter), I just need to know what are the standard/benchmarking loading time of a average web page.i.e. loging page, a search page, and a webpage with a grid with 15 rows and 5 columns of data (No images). Any suggestion much appreciated. Thanks. *** Disclaimer The information contained in this communication is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorised to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in reliance of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. KPMG is neither liable for the proper, complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor any delay in its receipt. *** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscr...@jmeter.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: user-h...@jmeter.apache.org
Re: standard/benchmarking value for loading a web page
On 22 August 2012 16:30, Adrian Speteanu asp.ad...@gmail.com wrote: I would also recommend JMeter's wiki for this one. There you will find links references to resources useful that try to cover general concerns (regarding performance testing, industry standards/expectations, good approaches and also results interpretation). There aren't good quick answers, nothing short compensate for the experience of the people who wrote those materials. But since that might take a while, as a quick answer I would add that it depends A LOT on the type of page that you want to load. And you also have to know your end-users expectations... - users quit if pages are slow, usually, but if the data is very valuable to them, they might wait (you see there's a lot to talk about, for news pages and a blog page they won't wait too many seconds, if their banking page take 20s they might wait, if someone wants a report with analytics, they will wait minutes for it to load in the web page). So don't generalise, just make sure you understand stakeholders and end-users expectations first and then balance that on what your developers can deliver realistically. You decide what is acceptable or not. For industry standard, take a peek at the competition, see how they fair - try to beat that. Also, if the site is one that users return to often, having a consistent experience is important. If it always takes 4 seconds to load a page, people will get used to that, but if it can take between 1 and 10 seconds depending on server load that is more annoying. Any site will slow down given sufficient traffic, so you need to know what traffic your site is designed for, and make sure it handles that with some margin. When overloaded, the site should ideally start to fail gracefully. --Adrian S On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Robin D. Wilson rwils...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know about everyone else, but we use 'benchmark' to evaluate the difference between one release and the next. The value of benchmarking (to us) is to track the change in performance over time of our system. It certainly is nice to compare to some arbitrary standard, but that's only a secondary value - the primary goal is to make sure we are not getting slower with each release. -- Robin D. Wilson Sr. Director of Web Development KingsIsle Entertainment, Inc. VOICE: 512-777-1861 www.KingsIsle.com -Original Message- From: Shaba K [mailto:shabazi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 7:49 AM To: JMeter Users List Subject: Re: standard/benchmarking value for loading a web page It's different for different business kind of webpage too You'l have to grab this as a NFS from your business. cheers, s On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Samaraweera, Ravinda ravindasamarawe...@kpmg.com wrote: Dear All, I have completed internal application's performance test and results are with me(Thanks for jmeter), I just need to know what are the standard/benchmarking loading time of a average web page.i.e. loging page, a search page, and a webpage with a grid with 15 rows and 5 columns of data (No images). Any suggestion much appreciated. Thanks. *** Disclaimer The information contained in this communication is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorised to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in reliance of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. KPMG is neither liable for the proper, complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor any delay in its receipt. *** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscr...@jmeter.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: user-h...@jmeter.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscr...@jmeter.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: user-h...@jmeter.apache.org
RE: standard/benchmarking value for loading a web page
Thanks to all of you giving such a wonderful feedback, I got it , thanks again -Original Message- From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:03 PM To: JMeter Users List Subject: Re: standard/benchmarking value for loading a web page On 22 August 2012 16:30, Adrian Speteanu asp.ad...@gmail.com wrote: I would also recommend JMeter's wiki for this one. There you will find links references to resources useful that try to cover general concerns (regarding performance testing, industry standards/expectations, good approaches and also results interpretation). There aren't good quick answers, nothing short compensate for the experience of the people who wrote those materials. But since that might take a while, as a quick answer I would add that it depends A LOT on the type of page that you want to load. And you also have to know your end-users expectations... - users quit if pages are slow, usually, but if the data is very valuable to them, they might wait (you see there's a lot to talk about, for news pages and a blog page they won't wait too many seconds, if their banking page take 20s they might wait, if someone wants a report with analytics, they will wait minutes for it to load in the web page). So don't generalise, just make sure you understand stakeholders and end-users expectations first and then balance that on what your developers can deliver realistically. You decide what is acceptable or not. For industry standard, take a peek at the competition, see how they fair - try to beat that. Also, if the site is one that users return to often, having a consistent experience is important. If it always takes 4 seconds to load a page, people will get used to that, but if it can take between 1 and 10 seconds depending on server load that is more annoying. Any site will slow down given sufficient traffic, so you need to know what traffic your site is designed for, and make sure it handles that with some margin. When overloaded, the site should ideally start to fail gracefully. --Adrian S On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Robin D. Wilson rwils...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know about everyone else, but we use 'benchmark' to evaluate the difference between one release and the next. The value of benchmarking (to us) is to track the change in performance over time of our system. It certainly is nice to compare to some arbitrary standard, but that's only a secondary value - the primary goal is to make sure we are not getting slower with each release. -- Robin D. Wilson Sr. Director of Web Development KingsIsle Entertainment, Inc. VOICE: 512-777-1861 www.KingsIsle.com -Original Message- From: Shaba K [mailto:shabazi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 7:49 AM To: JMeter Users List Subject: Re: standard/benchmarking value for loading a web page It's different for different business kind of webpage too You'l have to grab this as a NFS from your business. cheers, s On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Samaraweera, Ravinda ravindasamarawe...@kpmg.com wrote: Dear All, I have completed internal application's performance test and results are with me(Thanks for jmeter), I just need to know what are the standard/benchmarking loading time of a average web page.i.e. loging page, a search page, and a webpage with a grid with 15 rows and 5 columns of data (No images). Any suggestion much appreciated. Thanks. *** Disclaimer The information contained in this communication is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorised to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in reliance of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. KPMG is neither liable for the proper, complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor any delay in its receipt. *** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscr...@jmeter.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: user-h...@jmeter.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscr...@jmeter.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: user-h...@jmeter.apache.org *** Disclaimer The information contained in this communication is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorised to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby
standard/benchmarking value for loading a web page
Dear All, I have completed internal application's performance test and results are with me(Thanks for jmeter), I just need to know what are the standard/benchmarking loading time of a average web page.i.e. loging page, a search page, and a webpage with a grid with 15 rows and 5 columns of data (No images). Any suggestion much appreciated. Thanks. *** Disclaimer The information contained in this communication is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorised to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in reliance of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. KPMG is neither liable for the proper, complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor any delay in its receipt. ***
