RE: service / reference-list within same bundle
Guillaume, Is there a way to inject a bean manager instead of a bean itself using Blueprint? Cheers, JP [@@ OPEN @@] De : Guillaume Nodet [mailto:gno...@apache.org] Envoyé : mardi 4 juin 2013 17:20 À : user Objet : Re: service / reference-list within same bundle If you don't need to iterator through osgi services, you could use a simple list element instead. The problem with using osgi services and references is that if the reference is mandatory, the blueprint context won't be started until the reference is satisfied, which can't happen since the the service will be provided by the bundle itself. However, it should work when using an optional availability instead. 2013/6/4 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.commailto:jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com Yes, you are right, not exactly meant for but it is useful :) In fact I just wish to iterate through beans and call a method for each bean. What is strange is that it is possible among bundles but not within bundle :S JP [@@ OPEN @@] De : Achim Nierbeck [mailto:bcanh...@googlemail.commailto:bcanh...@googlemail.com] Envoyé : mardi 4 juin 2013 16:37 À : user@karaf.apache.orgmailto:user@karaf.apache.org Objet : Re: service / reference-list within same bundle It's not what it's meant for, reference-list is supposed to give you all available services of a interface. Not exactly a for each, or? regards, Achim 2013/6/4 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.commailto:jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com In fact I would like to use the reference-list as a kind of for each. I don't know how to do the same thing using the bean. Is there a syntax to do so? Cheers, JP [@@ OPEN @@] De : Achim Nierbeck [mailto:bcanh...@googlemail.commailto:bcanh...@googlemail.com] Envoyé : mardi 4 juin 2013 16:31 À : user@karaf.apache.orgmailto:user@karaf.apache.org Objet : Re: service / reference-list within same bundle Since you're referencing a bean from within the same bundle, it's probably best to reference the bean and not the service of it. If you really want to use the service (which I don't understand why) you should configure Karaf to start the bundles in a synchronous way. regards, Achim 2013/6/4 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.commailto:jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com Dear Karaf team, I would like to use a reference-list on a service which is exported in the same bundle. Starting the bundle blocks on the GracePeriod state. Is there a way to use a service which is exposed within the same bundle? Cheers, JP [@@ OPEN @@] -- Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC OPS4J Pax Web http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/ Committer Project Lead OPS4J Pax for Vaadin http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home Commiter Project Lead blog http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/ -- Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC OPS4J Pax Web http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/ Committer Project Lead OPS4J Pax for Vaadin http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home Commiter Project Lead blog http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/
Re: service / reference-list within same bundle
You can't inject a bean manager, but you can inject the id using id-ref=xyz, inject the blueprint container using ref=blueprintContainer and then programmatically ask the blueprint container for beans (or eventually for the metadata). That's how you can leverage prototypes programmatically. 2013/6/5 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com Guillaume, ** ** Is there a way to inject a bean manager instead of a bean itself using Blueprint? ** ** Cheers, JP ** ** [@@ OPEN @@] ** ** *De :* Guillaume Nodet [mailto:gno...@apache.org] *Envoyé :* mardi 4 juin 2013 17:20 *À :* user *Objet :* Re: service / reference-list within same bundle ** ** If you don't need to iterator through osgi services, you could use a simple list element instead. The problem with using osgi services and references is that if the reference is mandatory, the blueprint context won't be started until the reference is satisfied, which can't happen since the the service will be provided by the bundle itself. However, it should work when using an optional availability instead. ** ** 2013/6/4 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com* *** Yes, you are right, not exactly meant for but it is useful :) In fact I just wish to iterate through beans and call a method for each bean. What is strange is that it is possible among bundles but not within bundle :S JP [@@ OPEN @@] *De :* Achim Nierbeck [mailto:bcanh...@googlemail.com] *Envoyé :* mardi 4 juin 2013 16:37 *À :* user@karaf.apache.org *Objet :* Re: service / reference-list within same bundle It's not what it's meant for, reference-list is supposed to give you all available services of a interface. Not exactly a for each, or? regards, Achim 2013/6/4 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com* *** In fact I would like to use the reference-list as a kind of “for each”. I don’t know how to do the same thing using the bean. Is there a syntax to do so? Cheers, JP [@@ OPEN @@] *De :* Achim Nierbeck [mailto:bcanh...@googlemail.com] *Envoyé :* mardi 4 juin 2013 16:31 *À :* user@karaf.apache.org *Objet :* Re: service / reference-list within same bundle Since you're referencing a bean from within the same bundle, it's probably best to reference the bean and not the service of it. If you really want to use the service (which I don't understand why) you should configure Karaf to start the bundles in a synchronous way. regards, Achim 2013/6/4 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com* *** Dear Karaf team, I would like to use a reference-list on a service which is exported in the same bundle. Starting the bundle blocks on the GracePeriod state. Is there a way to use a service which is exposed within the same bundle?** ** Cheers, JP [@@ OPEN @@] -- Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC OPS4J Pax Web http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/ Committer Project Lead OPS4J Pax for Vaadin http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home Commiter Project Lead blog http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/ -- Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC OPS4J Pax Web http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/ Committer Project Lead OPS4J Pax for Vaadin http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home Commiter Project Lead blog http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/ ** **
RE: service / reference-list within same bundle
Ok, good. Which kind of Java parameter type is injected for id-ref ? String? JP [@@ OPEN @@] De : Guillaume Nodet [mailto:gno...@apache.org] Envoyé : mercredi 5 juin 2013 11:42 À : user Objet : Re: service / reference-list within same bundle You can't inject a bean manager, but you can inject the id using id-ref=xyz, inject the blueprint container using ref=blueprintContainer and then programmatically ask the blueprint container for beans (or eventually for the metadata). That's how you can leverage prototypes programmatically. 2013/6/5 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.commailto:jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com Guillaume, Is there a way to inject a bean manager instead of a bean itself using Blueprint? Cheers, JP [@@ OPEN @@] De : Guillaume Nodet [mailto:gno...@apache.orgmailto:gno...@apache.org] Envoyé : mardi 4 juin 2013 17:20 À : user Objet : Re: service / reference-list within same bundle If you don't need to iterator through osgi services, you could use a simple list element instead. The problem with using osgi services and references is that if the reference is mandatory, the blueprint context won't be started until the reference is satisfied, which can't happen since the the service will be provided by the bundle itself. However, it should work when using an optional availability instead. 2013/6/4 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.commailto:jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com Yes, you are right, not exactly meant for but it is useful :) In fact I just wish to iterate through beans and call a method for each bean. What is strange is that it is possible among bundles but not within bundle :S JP [@@ OPEN @@] De : Achim Nierbeck [mailto:bcanh...@googlemail.commailto:bcanh...@googlemail.com] Envoyé : mardi 4 juin 2013 16:37 À : user@karaf.apache.orgmailto:user@karaf.apache.org Objet : Re: service / reference-list within same bundle It's not what it's meant for, reference-list is supposed to give you all available services of a interface. Not exactly a for each, or? regards, Achim 2013/6/4 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.commailto:jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com In fact I would like to use the reference-list as a kind of for each. I don't know how to do the same thing using the bean. Is there a syntax to do so? Cheers, JP [@@ OPEN @@] De : Achim Nierbeck [mailto:bcanh...@googlemail.commailto:bcanh...@googlemail.com] Envoyé : mardi 4 juin 2013 16:31 À : user@karaf.apache.orgmailto:user@karaf.apache.org Objet : Re: service / reference-list within same bundle Since you're referencing a bean from within the same bundle, it's probably best to reference the bean and not the service of it. If you really want to use the service (which I don't understand why) you should configure Karaf to start the bundles in a synchronous way. regards, Achim 2013/6/4 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.commailto:jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com Dear Karaf team, I would like to use a reference-list on a service which is exported in the same bundle. Starting the bundle blocks on the GracePeriod state. Is there a way to use a service which is exposed within the same bundle? Cheers, JP [@@ OPEN @@] -- Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC OPS4J Pax Web http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/ Committer Project Lead OPS4J Pax for Vaadin http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home Commiter Project Lead blog http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/ -- Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC OPS4J Pax Web http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/ Committer Project Lead OPS4J Pax for Vaadin http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home Commiter Project Lead blog http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/
Re: service / reference-list within same bundle
Yes 2013/6/5 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com Ok, good. ** ** Which kind of Java parameter type is injected for id-ref ? String? ** ** JP ** ** [@@ OPEN @@] ** ** *De :* Guillaume Nodet [mailto:gno...@apache.org] *Envoyé :* mercredi 5 juin 2013 11:42 *À :* user *Objet :* Re: service / reference-list within same bundle ** ** You can't inject a bean manager, but you can inject the id using id-ref=xyz, inject the blueprint container using ref=blueprintContainer and then programmatically ask the blueprint container for beans (or eventually for the metadata). That's how you can leverage prototypes programmatically. ** ** 2013/6/5 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com* *** Guillaume, Is there a way to inject a bean manager instead of a bean itself using Blueprint? Cheers, JP [@@ OPEN @@] *De :* Guillaume Nodet [mailto:gno...@apache.org] *Envoyé :* mardi 4 juin 2013 17:20 *À :* user *Objet :* Re: service / reference-list within same bundle If you don't need to iterator through osgi services, you could use a simple list element instead. The problem with using osgi services and references is that if the reference is mandatory, the blueprint context won't be started until the reference is satisfied, which can't happen since the the service will be provided by the bundle itself. However, it should work when using an optional availability instead. 2013/6/4 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com* *** Yes, you are right, not exactly meant for but it is useful :) In fact I just wish to iterate through beans and call a method for each bean. What is strange is that it is possible among bundles but not within bundle :S JP [@@ OPEN @@] *De :* Achim Nierbeck [mailto:bcanh...@googlemail.com] *Envoyé :* mardi 4 juin 2013 16:37 *À :* user@karaf.apache.org *Objet :* Re: service / reference-list within same bundle It's not what it's meant for, reference-list is supposed to give you all available services of a interface. Not exactly a for each, or? regards, Achim 2013/6/4 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com* *** In fact I would like to use the reference-list as a kind of “for each”. I don’t know how to do the same thing using the bean. Is there a syntax to do so? Cheers, JP [@@ OPEN @@] *De :* Achim Nierbeck [mailto:bcanh...@googlemail.com] *Envoyé :* mardi 4 juin 2013 16:31 *À :* user@karaf.apache.org *Objet :* Re: service / reference-list within same bundle Since you're referencing a bean from within the same bundle, it's probably best to reference the bean and not the service of it. If you really want to use the service (which I don't understand why) you should configure Karaf to start the bundles in a synchronous way. regards, Achim 2013/6/4 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com* *** Dear Karaf team, I would like to use a reference-list on a service which is exported in the same bundle. Starting the bundle blocks on the GracePeriod state. Is there a way to use a service which is exposed within the same bundle?** ** Cheers, JP [@@ OPEN @@] -- Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC OPS4J Pax Web http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/ Committer Project Lead OPS4J Pax for Vaadin http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home Commiter Project Lead blog http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/ -- Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC OPS4J Pax Web http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/ Committer Project Lead OPS4J Pax for Vaadin http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home Commiter Project Lead blog http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/ ** **
RE: service / reference-list within same bundle
Good. What is the main difference between injecting directly the string, or injecting an idref, just reference check ref existence before injection ? JP [@@ THALES GROUP INTERNAL @@] De : Guillaume Nodet [mailto:gno...@apache.org] Envoyé : mercredi 5 juin 2013 12:41 À : user Objet : Re: service / reference-list within same bundle Yes 2013/6/5 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.commailto:jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com Ok, good. Which kind of Java parameter type is injected for id-ref ? String? JP [@@ OPEN @@] De : Guillaume Nodet [mailto:gno...@apache.orgmailto:gno...@apache.org] Envoyé : mercredi 5 juin 2013 11:42 À : user Objet : Re: service / reference-list within same bundle You can't inject a bean manager, but you can inject the id using id-ref=xyz, inject the blueprint container using ref=blueprintContainer and then programmatically ask the blueprint container for beans (or eventually for the metadata). That's how you can leverage prototypes programmatically. 2013/6/5 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.commailto:jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com Guillaume, Is there a way to inject a bean manager instead of a bean itself using Blueprint? Cheers, JP [@@ OPEN @@] De : Guillaume Nodet [mailto:gno...@apache.orgmailto:gno...@apache.org] Envoyé : mardi 4 juin 2013 17:20 À : user Objet : Re: service / reference-list within same bundle If you don't need to iterator through osgi services, you could use a simple list element instead. The problem with using osgi services and references is that if the reference is mandatory, the blueprint context won't be started until the reference is satisfied, which can't happen since the the service will be provided by the bundle itself. However, it should work when using an optional availability instead. 2013/6/4 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.commailto:jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com Yes, you are right, not exactly meant for but it is useful :) In fact I just wish to iterate through beans and call a method for each bean. What is strange is that it is possible among bundles but not within bundle :S JP [@@ OPEN @@] De : Achim Nierbeck [mailto:bcanh...@googlemail.commailto:bcanh...@googlemail.com] Envoyé : mardi 4 juin 2013 16:37 À : user@karaf.apache.orgmailto:user@karaf.apache.org Objet : Re: service / reference-list within same bundle It's not what it's meant for, reference-list is supposed to give you all available services of a interface. Not exactly a for each, or? regards, Achim 2013/6/4 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.commailto:jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com In fact I would like to use the reference-list as a kind of for each. I don't know how to do the same thing using the bean. Is there a syntax to do so? Cheers, JP [@@ OPEN @@] De : Achim Nierbeck [mailto:bcanh...@googlemail.commailto:bcanh...@googlemail.com] Envoyé : mardi 4 juin 2013 16:31 À : user@karaf.apache.orgmailto:user@karaf.apache.org Objet : Re: service / reference-list within same bundle Since you're referencing a bean from within the same bundle, it's probably best to reference the bean and not the service of it. If you really want to use the service (which I don't understand why) you should configure Karaf to start the bundles in a synchronous way. regards, Achim 2013/6/4 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.commailto:jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com Dear Karaf team, I would like to use a reference-list on a service which is exported in the same bundle. Starting the bundle blocks on the GracePeriod state. Is there a way to use a service which is exposed within the same bundle? Cheers, JP [@@ OPEN @@] -- Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC OPS4J Pax Web http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/ Committer Project Lead OPS4J Pax for Vaadin http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home Commiter Project Lead blog http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/ -- Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC OPS4J Pax Web http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/ Committer Project Lead OPS4J Pax for Vaadin http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home Commiter Project Lead blog http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/
Re: service / reference-list within same bundle
Exactly, the container simply check the existence. 2013/6/5 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com Good. ** ** What is the main difference between injecting directly the string, or injecting an idref, just reference check ref existence before injection ?* *** ** ** JP ** ** [@@ THALES GROUP INTERNAL @@] ** ** *De :* Guillaume Nodet [mailto:gno...@apache.org] *Envoyé :* mercredi 5 juin 2013 12:41 *À :* user *Objet :* Re: service / reference-list within same bundle ** ** Yes ** ** 2013/6/5 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com* *** Ok, good. Which kind of Java parameter type is injected for id-ref ? String? JP [@@ OPEN @@] *De :* Guillaume Nodet [mailto:gno...@apache.org] *Envoyé :* mercredi 5 juin 2013 11:42 *À :* user *Objet :* Re: service / reference-list within same bundle You can't inject a bean manager, but you can inject the id using id-ref=xyz, inject the blueprint container using ref=blueprintContainer and then programmatically ask the blueprint container for beans (or eventually for the metadata). That's how you can leverage prototypes programmatically. 2013/6/5 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com* *** Guillaume, Is there a way to inject a bean manager instead of a bean itself using Blueprint? Cheers, JP [@@ OPEN @@] *De :* Guillaume Nodet [mailto:gno...@apache.org] *Envoyé :* mardi 4 juin 2013 17:20 *À :* user *Objet :* Re: service / reference-list within same bundle If you don't need to iterator through osgi services, you could use a simple list element instead. The problem with using osgi services and references is that if the reference is mandatory, the blueprint context won't be started until the reference is satisfied, which can't happen since the the service will be provided by the bundle itself. However, it should work when using an optional availability instead. 2013/6/4 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com* *** Yes, you are right, not exactly meant for but it is useful :) In fact I just wish to iterate through beans and call a method for each bean. What is strange is that it is possible among bundles but not within bundle :S JP [@@ OPEN @@] *De :* Achim Nierbeck [mailto:bcanh...@googlemail.com] *Envoyé :* mardi 4 juin 2013 16:37 *À :* user@karaf.apache.org *Objet :* Re: service / reference-list within same bundle It's not what it's meant for, reference-list is supposed to give you all available services of a interface. Not exactly a for each, or? regards, Achim 2013/6/4 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com* *** In fact I would like to use the reference-list as a kind of “for each”. I don’t know how to do the same thing using the bean. Is there a syntax to do so? Cheers, JP [@@ OPEN @@] *De :* Achim Nierbeck [mailto:bcanh...@googlemail.com] *Envoyé :* mardi 4 juin 2013 16:31 *À :* user@karaf.apache.org *Objet :* Re: service / reference-list within same bundle Since you're referencing a bean from within the same bundle, it's probably best to reference the bean and not the service of it. If you really want to use the service (which I don't understand why) you should configure Karaf to start the bundles in a synchronous way. regards, Achim 2013/6/4 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com* *** Dear Karaf team, I would like to use a reference-list on a service which is exported in the same bundle. Starting the bundle blocks on the GracePeriod state. Is there a way to use a service which is exposed within the same bundle?** ** Cheers, JP [@@ OPEN @@] -- Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC OPS4J Pax Web http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/ Committer Project Lead OPS4J Pax for Vaadin http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home Commiter Project Lead blog http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/ -- Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC OPS4J Pax Web http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/ Committer Project Lead OPS4J Pax for Vaadin http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home Commiter Project Lead blog http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/ ** **
Re: service / reference-list within same bundle
Since you're referencing a bean from within the same bundle, it's probably best to reference the bean and not the service of it. If you really want to use the service (which I don't understand why) you should configure Karaf to start the bundles in a synchronous way. regards, Achim 2013/6/4 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com Dear Karaf team, ** ** I would like to use a reference-list on a service which is exported in the same bundle. Starting the bundle blocks on the GracePeriod state. ** ** Is there a way to use a service which is exposed within the same bundle?** ** ** ** Cheers, JP ** ** [@@ OPEN @@] ** ** -- Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC OPS4J Pax Web http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/ Committer Project Lead OPS4J Pax for Vaadin http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home Commiter Project Lead blog http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/
RE: service / reference-list within same bundle
In fact I would like to use the reference-list as a kind of for each. I don't know how to do the same thing using the bean. Is there a syntax to do so? Cheers, JP [@@ OPEN @@] De : Achim Nierbeck [mailto:bcanh...@googlemail.com] Envoyé : mardi 4 juin 2013 16:31 À : user@karaf.apache.org Objet : Re: service / reference-list within same bundle Since you're referencing a bean from within the same bundle, it's probably best to reference the bean and not the service of it. If you really want to use the service (which I don't understand why) you should configure Karaf to start the bundles in a synchronous way. regards, Achim 2013/6/4 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.commailto:jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com Dear Karaf team, I would like to use a reference-list on a service which is exported in the same bundle. Starting the bundle blocks on the GracePeriod state. Is there a way to use a service which is exposed within the same bundle? Cheers, JP [@@ OPEN @@] -- Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC OPS4J Pax Web http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/ Committer Project Lead OPS4J Pax for Vaadin http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home Commiter Project Lead blog http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/
