Exactly, the container simply check the existence.

2013/6/5 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe <jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com>

> Good.****
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> What is the main difference between injecting directly the string, or
> injecting an idref, just reference check ref existence before injection ?*
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> *De :* Guillaume Nodet [mailto:gno...@apache.org]
> *Envoyé :* mercredi 5 juin 2013 12:41
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> *À :* user
> *Objet :* Re: service / reference-list within same bundle****
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> Yes****
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> 2013/6/5 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe <jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com>*
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> Ok, good.****
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> Which kind of Java parameter type is injected for id-ref ? String?****
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> JP****
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> *De :* Guillaume Nodet [mailto:gno...@apache.org]
> *Envoyé :* mercredi 5 juin 2013 11:42****
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> *À :* user
> *Objet :* Re: service / reference-list within same bundle****
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>  ****
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> You can't inject a bean manager, but you can inject the id using
> id-ref="xyz", inject the blueprint container using ref="blueprintContainer"
> and then programmatically ask the blueprint container for beans (or
> eventually for the metadata).  That's how you can leverage prototypes
> programmatically.****
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> 2013/6/5 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe <jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com>*
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> Guillaume,****
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> Is there a way to inject a bean manager instead of a bean itself using
> Blueprint?****
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> Cheers,****
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> JP****
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> *De :* Guillaume Nodet [mailto:gno...@apache.org]
> *Envoyé :* mardi 4 juin 2013 17:20
> *À :* user****
>
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> *Objet :* Re: service / reference-list within same bundle****
>
>  ****
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> If you don't need to iterator through osgi services, you could use a
> simple <list> element instead.****
>
> The problem with using osgi services and references is that if the
> reference is mandatory, the blueprint context won't be started until the
> reference is satisfied, which can't happen since the the service will be
> provided by the bundle itself.  However, it should work when using an
> optional availability instead.****
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> 2013/6/4 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe <jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com>*
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> Yes, you are right, not exactly meant for but it is useful :)****
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> In fact I just wish to iterate through beans and call a method for each
> bean. What is strange is that it is possible among bundles but not within
> bundle :S****
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> *De :* Achim Nierbeck [mailto:bcanh...@googlemail.com]
> *Envoyé :* mardi 4 juin 2013 16:37****
>
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> *À :* user@karaf.apache.org
> *Objet :* Re: service / reference-list within same bundle****
>
>  ****
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> It's not what it's meant for, reference-list is supposed to give you all
> available services of a interface. ****
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> Not exactly a for each, or?****
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> regards, Achim ****
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> 2013/6/4 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe <jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com>*
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> In fact I would like to use the reference-list as a kind of “for each”. I
> don’t know how to do the same thing using the bean.****
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> Is there a syntax to do so?****
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> Cheers,****
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> JP****
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> *De :* Achim Nierbeck [mailto:bcanh...@googlemail.com]
> *Envoyé :* mardi 4 juin 2013 16:31
> *À :* user@karaf.apache.org
> *Objet :* Re: service / reference-list within same bundle****
>
>  ****
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> Since you're referencing a bean from within the same bundle, it's probably
> best to reference the bean and not the service of it. ****
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> If you really want to use the service (which I don't understand why) you
> should configure Karaf to start the bundles in a synchronous way. ****
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> regards, Achim ****
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> 2013/6/4 CLEMENT Jean-Philippe <jean-philippe.clem...@fr.thalesgroup.com>*
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> Dear Karaf team,****
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> I would like to use a reference-list on a service which is exported in the
> same bundle. Starting the bundle blocks on the GracePeriod state.****
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> Is there a way to use a service which is exposed within the same bundle?**
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> Cheers,****
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> JP****
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