Re: Google Borg paper

2015-04-19 Thread Arunabha Ghosh
Omega was a replacement for the core scheduler, Borg is the clusterOS. Kind
of like a kernel (Omega) and a full fledged os (Borg).

On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Marco Massenzio ma...@mesosphere.io
wrote:

 At Google there are always to do everything: the deprecated one and the
 one that's not quite ready yet

 I'm sure Borg is alive and well (but deprecated) and Omega has been
 deployed (but ain't quite ready yet)

 They were already working on it in 2010, I'm sure they're still at it.

 Will confirm soon as I find out more.
 On Apr 16, 2015 9:08 PM, Christos Kozyrakis kozyr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Maxime,
 to the best of my knowledge Borg is still doing just fine at Google. It
 may have been enhanced by the Omega effort but it has not been replaced.
 Nevertheless, I will let any Googlers on the list go into details.
 Christos

 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Maxime Brugidou 
 maxime.brugi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Not sure if everyone noticed but Google just published a paper about the
 Borg architecture. I guess it's been replaced by Omega now internally at
 Google (if anyone from Google can confirm?)

 It might be of interest for Mesos :)

 http://research.google.com/pubs/pub43438.html

 Best,
 Maxime




 --
 Christos




Re: Google Borg paper

2015-04-17 Thread Marco Massenzio
At Google there are always to do everything: the deprecated one and the
one that's not quite ready yet

I'm sure Borg is alive and well (but deprecated) and Omega has been
deployed (but ain't quite ready yet)

They were already working on it in 2010, I'm sure they're still at it.

Will confirm soon as I find out more.
On Apr 16, 2015 9:08 PM, Christos Kozyrakis kozyr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Maxime,
 to the best of my knowledge Borg is still doing just fine at Google. It
 may have been enhanced by the Omega effort but it has not been replaced.
 Nevertheless, I will let any Googlers on the list go into details.
 Christos

 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Maxime Brugidou 
 maxime.brugi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Not sure if everyone noticed but Google just published a paper about the
 Borg architecture. I guess it's been replaced by Omega now internally at
 Google (if anyone from Google can confirm?)

 It might be of interest for Mesos :)

 http://research.google.com/pubs/pub43438.html

 Best,
 Maxime




 --
 Christos



Google Borg paper

2015-04-16 Thread Maxime Brugidou
Hi,

Not sure if everyone noticed but Google just published a paper about the
Borg architecture. I guess it's been replaced by Omega now internally at
Google (if anyone from Google can confirm?)

It might be of interest for Mesos :)

http://research.google.com/pubs/pub43438.html

Best,
Maxime


Re: Google Borg paper

2015-04-16 Thread Andrew Langhorn
On the back of this, the John Wilkes talk about cluster management (he gave it 
at MesosCon and again at QCon London) is very interesting; it discusses Borg 
and Omega. It's on YouTube, and I wrote some notes a few months ago - 
http://ajlanghorn.com/2015/01/cluster-management-at-google/

The Borg paper will be interesting reading tomorrow!

Sent from my iPhone

On 16 Apr 2015, at 22:20, Maxime Brugidou 
maxime.brugi...@gmail.commailto:maxime.brugi...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi,

Not sure if everyone noticed but Google just published a paper about the Borg 
architecture. I guess it's been replaced by Omega now internally at Google (if 
anyone from Google can confirm?)

It might be of interest for Mesos :)

http://research.google.com/pubs/pub43438.html

Best,
Maxime


Re: Google Borg paper

2015-04-16 Thread Christos Kozyrakis
Maxime,
to the best of my knowledge Borg is still doing just fine at Google. It may
have been enhanced by the Omega effort but it has not been replaced.
Nevertheless, I will let any Googlers on the list go into details.
Christos

On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Maxime Brugidou maxime.brugi...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi,

 Not sure if everyone noticed but Google just published a paper about the
 Borg architecture. I guess it's been replaced by Omega now internally at
 Google (if anyone from Google can confirm?)

 It might be of interest for Mesos :)

 http://research.google.com/pubs/pub43438.html

 Best,
 Maxime




-- 
Christos


Re: Google Borg paper

2015-04-16 Thread Andrew Langhorn
Heh; thanks! I'll put that Quora link in to my to-read list, too :)



From: Joseph Jacks j...@kismatic.io
Sent: 16 April 2015 22:55
To: Andrew Langhorn
Subject: Re: Google Borg paper

Awesome notes!
Did you read: http://qr.ae/dew00

Thanks,
JJ.


On Apr 16, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Andrew Langhorn 
and...@ajlanghorn.commailto:and...@ajlanghorn.com wrote:

On the back of this, the John Wilkes talk about cluster management (he gave it 
at MesosCon and again at QCon London) is very interesting; it discusses Borg 
and Omega. It's on YouTube, and I wrote some notes a few months ago - 
http://ajlanghorn.com/2015/01/cluster-management-at-google/

The Borg paper will be interesting reading tomorrow!

Sent from my iPhone

On 16 Apr 2015, at 22:20, Maxime Brugidou 
maxime.brugi...@gmail.commailto:maxime.brugi...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi,

Not sure if everyone noticed but Google just published a paper about the Borg 
architecture. I guess it's been replaced by Omega now internally at Google (if 
anyone from Google can confirm?)

It might be of interest for Mesos :)

http://research.google.com/pubs/pub43438.html

Best,
Maxime