date:20110224


http://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-branch10

Jacques

From: "Jacques Le Roux" 

I meant ask ant not have. It's done at 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3475

Jacques

From: "Jacques Le Roux" 

I think we should have infra

Jacques

Scott Gray wrote:

Also worth noting, I don't think we have buildbot running a 10.04 build.

Regards
Scott

HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

On 18/02/2011, at 9:50 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:


Christian is working to integrate also R10.04. We will then have 3 demo 
instances, if the resources let us do it. It should but
we have to test. Else yes, the next stable will be R10.04 and will replace 
r9.04 This is the plan so far

Jacques

From: "Paul Foxworthy" 

The Ofbiz home page says its links to the demos are "09.04 Stable Release".
Should the description and the links change to 10.04?

Cheers

Paul Foxworthy
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RE: data base

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Handling%20of%20External%20data
u could use this, if u still getting stuck contact again
CHEERS !!

-Original Message-
From: adnane moslih [mailto:moslih_adna...@hotmail.com]
Sent: 24 February 2011 PM 09:44
To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
Subject: data base

Hello

i m working in a small company in france,i m blocked face a problem,i creat my 
data base on using mysql.

 i m a new user of ofbiz,i don t know how could i import this
information from the data base at ofbiz,and i know that i should change
some thing on the entityengine.xml,could u please help me and show me
how could i importe information.

Adnane

Thnks

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RE: How to set different default theme's for ecommerce and ecomclone.

A very good idea which i had already formulated on, but their's a problem with 
this too every screen calls main-decorator, hence it would be very tedious to 
do this, i am trying on more methods lets see how things turn up !
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Subject: Re: How to set different default theme's for ecommerce and ecomclone.

Note that there are better solutions for this, particularly using the WebSite 
entity to set the visualThemeSetId but what I've suggested below is the easier 
route.

Regards
Scott

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On 25/02/2011, at 12:31 AM, Scott Gray wrote:

> You'll have to set the visualThemeId in each app's web.xml and then modify 
> the main-decorator screen def to use that instead of the product store 
> setting.
> 
> Regards
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Re: Integrating junit test suite in ofbiz framework to do selenium testing

2011-02-24 Thread Paul Foxworthy


Hi Soumya,

See also Brett Palmer's presentation from ApacheCon 2008 on Selenium with
Ofbiz at

http://kenfuse.com/files/ApacheCon2008_SeleniumXml.pdf
kenfuse.com/files/ApacheCon2008_SeleniumXml.pdf 

Cheers

Paul Foxworthy


soumya jyoti guru wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
>  I am trying to integrate junit test-suite in the ofbiz
> framework for selenium testing.Can anybody help me by providing me the
> detailed steps, how we can include our own junit test-suite in the
> framework.If there is any included help in ofbiz for selenium then
> please provide me with the link.
> regards
> Soumya
> 
> 

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Re: A/B testing


From: "David E Jones" 

A/B testing has nothing to do with proper functioning of software, it is about 
measuring the user response to it.

In ecommerce this usually means testing different cart/checkout designs or product finding designs or whatever to see what results 
in larger and more frequent orders, or less abandoned carts, or whatever the objective is.


Jacques: yes, the internal tracking code stuff is a good tool to measure what is happening with A/B UI routes, especially if the 
goal is to measure some sort of conversion rate since the TrackingCode and Visit are already automatically associated with orders 
when they are placed.


For A/B routing the controller.xml file is a good tool if you have different sets of screens to test. If it is just a small part 
of one screen, it is easiest in the screen definition itself to call a randomizer and choose a different conditional section based 
on the result.


David,

For now it's only question of pages. I did not think about that, thanks for the 
track.

OFBiz already has the basic tools you need to implement this sort of stuff, but there is no OOTB reporting. If you do end up 
writing anything that you think is sufficiently generic I'm sure it would be great to add to the project, but in what I've done in 
the past beyond these tools already in OFBiz there isn't a whole lot more that is generic (although some sort of generic report 
that can be customized would be a nice thing to have in the project).


It will need to build something with the Content Manager: ie allowing analyst to create/set themself their tests putting start and 
end points, a bit like in GPO (Google Page Optimizer). Though for now, as I already said, the conversion will only be between a set 
of pages (alternatives) and another (target) using a next button. I will put an atc in the URL for now. I have still to think about 
how I will handle things in the Content Manager. I'm confident since I looked at Website, Webpage and WebSiteContent.
Then analysts should be able to make changes and remove weaker page and create a new test from there. It's this part that I'd like 
to contribute, but unfortunately it seems that I will design but not coding ...


It's a pleasure to see TrackingCodeEvents has already almost all what I need!

I have question: I'm not quire sure about what Partner Managed Tracking Code is 
used for, in functional terms.

Ha, also I  had an idea that could be contributed: to not show alternatives to developers. A simple "bypassAtc=true" parameter in 
the URL should do the trick, **to be removed in production**. Actually "bypassAtc=true" to add in a (general?) properties file, 
could be contributed and documented in OFBiz Business Setup.


Thanks

Jacques


-David


On Feb 24, 2011, at 12:27 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:


I have been using blackbox, whitebox, greybox testing for years.
you start at the low level routines and test them and then use risk analysis to 
evaluate the effect of changing that module.
then when  you use that module int he next level up you have confident your building on solid ground. so by the time you get to 
the top you have a confidence level that you have a solid application to present to the client.

the other thing is generated automatic test building with reporting.
the goal is to reduce man hours in maintaining code.


=
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Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  

Specialtymarket.com  
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man

Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 2/24/2011 9:51 AM:

Hi,


I think we miss something like http://www.bingocardcreator.com/abingo

I will work on one for a customer, and would like to contribute, not
sure I will be able to...

I will use/extend at least

* org.ofbiz.marketing.tracking
* TrackingCode
* TrackingCodeType
* TrackingCodeVisit
* for org.ofbiz.webapp.visit
* Visit
* Visitor

Just to share, in case you have already experimented in OFBiz...

Jacques

Re: Clear trend...

2011-02-24 Thread David E Jones

No, I don't think JavaScript is a great choice for a language. It really is 
mostly a client-side technology and the server-side JavaScript stuff (that I'm 
aware of anyway) is not that great, really not great at all.

Also, as was mentioned elsewhere, Groovy and Scala aren't really Java 
alternatives since they rely on Java to run. That could be changed, but one way 
or another the virtual machine and compilation to byte code to run on it are 
important and useful approaches regardless of the syntax the programmer uses to 
write stuff that will run on the virtual machine.

What I was referring to, specifically for the possibility that Sun/Oracle Java 
disappears, is things like Apache Harmony and (to some extent) the newer 
OpenJDK stuff. Those things have been released under open source licenses, and 
you can't put that cat back in the bag. Even if Oracle decided to stop 
supporting Java altogether, or that all future work they did would remain for 
commercial licensing only, these things would still exist.

Anyway, the point is that there is no need to step back 20 years in technology 
advancements or even to pause for months or years while rebuilding some sort of 
foundation... alternatives already exist. We don't have to abandon byte code 
driven virtual machines or garbage collected memory management or any of those 
nice things.

On a side note, yes, Groovy and simple-methods (or XML Actions in Moqui) are 
higher level languages that could run on various platforms. This might be of 
interest: the XML Actions in Moqui are interpreted using an FTL template that 
generates Groovy code, which is then compiled on the fly to a class object and 
cached, and that is what is used to run the code. Changing the FTL template to 
generate code in another scripting or other language would be a fairly easy 
task (unless the language was horrible... even between Groovy and Java many 
things in Groovy are WAY easier).

-David

On Feb 24, 2011, at 6:00 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> Sorry to underestand in place of David,
> 
> Groovy, I guess since David is using it heavily in Moqui
> 
> I like Scala too (like js it's Object Oriented and Functional also but more 
> "serious" I'd say
> I must say I don't much about it yet http://www.scala-lang.org/
> 
> Jacques
> 
> Al Byers wrote:
>> Ok David, I'll bite; I would like to know what alternatives to Java
>> you think are worth considering. Is Javascript one of them (my pick)?
>> -Al
>> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:12 PM, David E Jones  wrote:
>>> Back to being serious: thank goodness technology has progressed far beyond 
>>> such things. They were ridiculously limited and
>>> required huge amounts of human effort to create the simplest software, or 
>>> meet the simplest needs. I don't know what you mean by "Java goes 
>>> commercial", IMO Java is already commercial and efforts to move it toward 
>>> being more
>>> open have been problematic. Either way, if Java is compromised it will only 
>>> open the way for something newer and better to come
>>> along, and frankly there are already various decent alternatives.  -David
>>> On Feb 23, 2011, at 1:14 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
 started wire wrapped s-100 system, 1n 1976 had a full 2k of 8bit memory 
 with a boot strap that I loaded with switches that then
 loaded a monitor from a cassette tape. that gave a chance to enter my code 
 in hex, that i wrote out on paper, then saved it to
 cassette tape. That was my first OS. Then there was exidy OS with rom 
 packs for applications. finally cpm with c code so could expand.
 small c then pascal, then C#.
 then a got a 5 1/4 drive with i86 board that mounted on it and got 
 compiled cpm for it. I really wanted an Apple. Closest I got
 was an amiga. got Dos to work then windows 1.3
 worked for a lot of early computer manufactures including apple and 
 commodore.
 still have pascal with the source code, so if and when Java goes 
 commercial, I will revert all code to pascal and Ai.
 =
 BJ Freeman
 Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation 

 Specialtymarket.com 
 Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
 Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
 David E Jones sent the following on 2/23/2011 12:37 PM:
> That's why I still use DOS. You can learn everything there is to know 
> about it in a few weeks, and I got that out of the way
> nearly two decades ago. I'm a happy camper. -David
> On Feb 23, 2011, at 12:19 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>> The better tool is the one you know
>> Jacques
>> BJ Freeman wrote:
>>> I still use netscape
>>> =
>>> BJ Freeman
>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier 
>>> Automation
>>> Specialtymarket.com

Re: Integrating junit test suite in ofbiz framework to do selenium testing

2011-02-24 Thread René Scheibe

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On 02/24/2011 11:59 AM, soumya jyoti guru wrote:
> Hi All,
>  I am trying to integrate junit test-suite in the ofbiz
> framework for selenium testing.Can anybody help me by providing me the
> detailed steps, how we can include our own junit test-suite in the
> framework.If there is any included help in ofbiz for selenium then
> please provide me with the link.
Why would you want to integrate your Selenium tests into OFBiz? I would
not recommend it.

These tests are functional tests and therefore need not and should not
be mixed with the application they are testing. Sure OFBiz provides a
way to specify Selenium tests with their Selenium-XML DSL but I do not
recommend this as this prevents code reusage.

Just run your JUnit-driven Selenium tests with the junit Ant target.
That's it. Plain and simple. And the benefit of this is approach is that
you can use the full power of JUnit4 (OFBiz still only supports JUnit3
for all its test infrastructure).

Regards,
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Re: data base


start here
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Handling%20of%20External%20data

=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  

Specialtymarket.com  
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man


adnane moslih sent the following on 2/24/2011 8:14 AM:


Hello

i m working in a small company in france,i m blocked face a problem,i creat my 
data base on using mysql.

  i m a new user of ofbiz,i don t know how could i import this
information from the data base at ofbiz,and i know that i should change
some thing on the entityengine.xml,could u please help me and show me
how could i importe information.


Adnane


Thnks

Re: A/B testing

2011-02-24 Thread David E Jones

A/B testing has nothing to do with proper functioning of software, it is about 
measuring the user response to it.

In ecommerce this usually means testing different cart/checkout designs or 
product finding designs or whatever to see what results in larger and more 
frequent orders, or less abandoned carts, or whatever the objective is.

Jacques: yes, the internal tracking code stuff is a good tool to measure what 
is happening with A/B UI routes, especially if the goal is to measure some sort 
of conversion rate since the TrackingCode and Visit are already automatically 
associated with orders when they are placed.

For A/B routing the controller.xml file is a good tool if you have different 
sets of screens to test. If it is just a small part of one screen, it is 
easiest in the screen definition itself to call a randomizer and choose a 
different conditional section based on the result.

OFBiz already has the basic tools you need to implement this sort of stuff, but 
there is no OOTB reporting. If you do end up writing anything that you think is 
sufficiently generic I'm sure it would be great to add to the project, but in 
what I've done in the past beyond these tools already in OFBiz there isn't a 
whole lot more that is generic (although some sort of generic report that can 
be customized would be a nice thing to have in the project).

-David

On Feb 24, 2011, at 12:27 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:

> I have been using blackbox, whitebox, greybox testing for years.
> you start at the low level routines and test them and then use risk analysis 
> to evaluate the effect of changing that module.
> then when  you use that module int he next level up you have confident your 
> building on solid ground. so by the time you get to the top you have a 
> confidence level that you have a solid application to present to the client.
> the other thing is generated automatic test building with reporting.
> the goal is to reduce man hours in maintaining code.
> 
> 
> =
> BJ Freeman
> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  
> 
> Specialtymarket.com  
> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
> 
> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
> 
> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 2/24/2011 9:51 AM:
> 
> Hi,
>> 
>> I think we miss something like http://www.bingocardcreator.com/abingo
>> 
>> I will work on one for a customer, and would like to contribute, not
>> sure I will be able to...
>> 
>> I will use/extend at least
>> 
>> * org.ofbiz.marketing.tracking
>> * TrackingCode
>> * TrackingCodeType
>> * TrackingCodeVisit
>> * for org.ofbiz.webapp.visit
>> * Visit
>> * Visitor
>> 
>> Just to share, in case you have already experimented in OFBiz...
>> 
>> Jacques
>> 
>>

Re: A/B testing


I have been using blackbox, whitebox, greybox testing for years.
you start at the low level routines and test them and then use risk 
analysis to evaluate the effect of changing that module.
then when  you use that module int he next level up you have confident 
your building on solid ground. so by the time you get to the top you 
have a confidence level that you have a solid application to present to 
the client.

the other thing is generated automatic test building with reporting.
the goal is to reduce man hours in maintaining code.


=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  

Specialtymarket.com  
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man

Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 2/24/2011 9:51 AM:

 Hi,


I think we miss something like http://www.bingocardcreator.com/abingo

I will work on one for a customer, and would like to contribute, not
sure I will be able to...

I will use/extend at least

* org.ofbiz.marketing.tracking
* TrackingCode
* TrackingCodeType
* TrackingCodeVisit
* for org.ofbiz.webapp.visit
* Visit
* Visitor

Just to share, in case you have already experimented in OFBiz...

Jacques

Re: Let's rewrite OFBiz in ... (was: Clear trend...)


the whole reason I came to ofbiz is not covered in jquery.
what would it take to replace ofbiz framework with jquery.
BTw i don't use JS at all I read the page data as you see it n view 
source and parse that into the client I use for clients.


=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  

Specialtymarket.com  
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man


Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 2/24/2011 11:31 AM:

From: "Jacques Le Roux" 

From: "BJ Freeman" 

I have been moving as much as I can from java classes to minilanq to
get ready for a total redesign, by replacing the java classes with
Pascal.
this puts the actually program at machine code level so has to be
compiled for the processor it runs on.

The real headache will be replacing all the libraries used in ofbiz.

the minilang relies on calling the "helper" classes and libraries
more than it does now.

if you put stuff in JavaScript there is no continuity between browser
implementations, so can not designed anything.


jQuery hides those problems, not sure it's 100% reliable though...

Jacques


At lib level you are right, for instance I had to add in fieldlookup.js :/

if(typeof String.prototype.trim !== 'function') { // Needed because IE8
does not implement trim yet
String.prototype.trim = function() {
return this.replace(/^\s+|\s+$/g, ''); }
}

Jacques



Plus then you put the processing on the client, you are taking away
from the power of client to run other process.

I am running into this in FF with 30 browser windows, that average 5
tabs open.
with all the activity the sites have they use about 35-50% cpu time.


Al Byers sent the following on 2/24/2011 10:11 AM:

Just kidding in the subject. But I think it is an interesting
discussion.

Wouldn't Groovy require a licensed Java runtime and therefore not
qualify as a replacement for Java?

I am thinking that because more and more sites will be doing mashups
of data from different source sites (and for other reasons, like
HTML5), that more work will be drawn in from server apps to client
apps (ie. javascript) and the interactions with the server will be
more of the simpler RESTful type. If that is the case, there would be
some incentive to use the same language on the server as on the client
(ie. javascript). I think that is why you are seeing more
javascript-based servers and frameworks cropping up which are
initially designed to handle the RESTful transactions. The new
javascript engines solve the speed problem and the single-threaded
problem is being solved other ways.

-Al

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:00 AM, Jacques Le Roux
wrote:

Sorry to underestand in place of David,

Groovy, I guess since David is using it heavily in Moqui

I like Scala too (like js it's Object Oriented and Functional also
but more
"serious" I'd say
I must say I don't much about it yet http://www.scala-lang.org/

Jacques

Al Byers wrote:


Ok David, I'll bite; I would like to know what alternatives to Java
you think are worth considering. Is Javascript one of them (my pick)?

-Al

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:12 PM, David E Jones wrote:


Back to being serious: thank goodness technology has progressed far
beyond such things. They were ridiculously limited and
required huge amounts of human effort to create the simplest
software, or
meet the simplest needs.
I don't know what you mean by "Java goes commercial", IMO Java is
already
commercial and efforts to move it toward being more
open have been problematic. Either way, if Java is compromised it
will
only open the way for something newer and better to come
along, and frankly there are already various decent alternatives.
-David


On Feb 23, 2011, at 1:14 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:


started wire wrapped s-100 system, 1n 1976 had a full 2k of 8bit
memory
with a boot strap that I loaded with switches that then
loaded a monitor from a cassette tape. that gave a chance to
enter my
code in hex, that i wrote out on paper, then saved it to
cassette tape. That was my first OS. Then there was exidy OS
with rom
packs for applications. finally cpm with c code so could expand.
small c then pascal, then C#.
then a got a 5 1/4 drive with i86 board that mounted on it and got
compiled cpm for it. I really wanted an Apple. Closest I got
was an amiga. got Dos to work then windows 1.3
worked for a lot of early computer manufactures including apple and
commodore.
still have pascal with the source code, so if and when Java goes
commercial, I will revert all code to pascal and Ai.

=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation

Specialtymarket.com
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man


David E Jones sent the following on 2/23/2011 12:37 PM:


That's why I still use DOS. You ca

data base

2011-02-24 Thread adnane moslih


Hello

i m working in a small company in france,i m blocked face a problem,i creat my 
data base on using mysql.

 i m a new user of ofbiz,i don t know how could i import this 
information from the data base at ofbiz,and i know that i should change 
some thing on the entityengine.xml,could u please help me and show me 
how could i importe information.


Adnane


Thnks

Re: Let's rewrite OFBiz in ... (was: Clear trend...)

From: "Jacques Le Roux" 

From: "BJ Freeman" 
I have been moving as much as I can from java classes to minilanq to get 
ready for a total redesign, by replacing the java classes with Pascal.
this puts the actually program at machine code level so has to be 
compiled for the processor it runs on.

The real headache will be replacing all the libraries used in ofbiz.

the minilang relies on calling the "helper" classes and libraries more 
than it does now.

if you put stuff in JavaScript there is no continuity between browser 
implementations, so can not designed anything.

jQuery hides those problems, not sure it's 100% reliable though...

Jacques

At lib level you are right, for instance I had to add in fieldlookup.js :/

if(typeof String.prototype.trim !== 'function') { // Needed because IE8 does 
not implement trim yet
 String.prototype.trim = function() {
   return this.replace(/^\s+|\s+$/g, ''); 
 }

}

Jacques

Plus then you put the processing on the client, you are taking away from 
the power of client to run other process.

I am running into this in FF with 30 browser windows, that average 5 
tabs open.

with all the activity the sites have they use about 35-50% cpu time.

Al Byers sent the following on 2/24/2011 10:11 AM:

Just kidding in the subject. But I think it is an interesting discussion.

Wouldn't Groovy require a licensed Java runtime and therefore not
qualify as a replacement for Java?

I am thinking that because more and more sites will be doing mashups
of data from different source sites (and for other reasons, like
HTML5), that more work will be drawn in from server apps to client
apps (ie. javascript) and the interactions with the server will be
more of the simpler RESTful type. If that is the case, there would be
some incentive to use the same language on the server as on the client
(ie. javascript). I think that is why you are seeing more
javascript-based servers and frameworks cropping up which are
initially designed to handle the RESTful transactions. The new
javascript engines solve the speed problem and the single-threaded
problem is being solved other ways.

-Al

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:00 AM, Jacques Le Roux  wrote:

Sorry to underestand in place of David,

Groovy, I guess since David is using it heavily in Moqui

I like Scala too (like js it's Object Oriented and Functional also but more
"serious" I'd say
I must say I don't much about it yet http://www.scala-lang.org/

Jacques

Al Byers wrote:

Ok David, I'll bite; I would like to know what alternatives to Java
you think are worth considering. Is Javascript one of them (my pick)?

-Al

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:12 PM, David E Jones  wrote:

Back to being serious: thank goodness technology has progressed far
beyond such things. They were ridiculously limited and
required huge amounts of human effort to create the simplest software, or
meet the simplest needs.
I don't know what you mean by "Java goes commercial", IMO Java is already
commercial and efforts to move it toward being more
open have been problematic. Either way, if Java is compromised it will
only open the way for something newer and better to come
along, and frankly there are already various decent alternatives.
-David

On Feb 23, 2011, at 1:14 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:

started wire wrapped s-100 system, 1n 1976 had a full 2k of 8bit memory
with a boot strap that I loaded with switches that then
loaded a monitor from a cassette tape. that gave a chance to enter my
code in hex, that i wrote out on paper, then saved it to
cassette tape. That was my first OS. Then there was exidy OS with rom
packs for applications. finally cpm with c code so could expand.
small c then pascal, then C#.
then a got a 5 1/4 drive with i86 board that mounted on it and got
compiled cpm for it. I really wanted an Apple. Closest I got
was an amiga. got Dos to work then windows 1.3
worked for a lot of early computer manufactures including apple and
commodore.
still have pascal with the source code, so if and when Java goes
commercial, I will revert all code to pascal and Ai.

=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation

Specialtymarket.com
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man

David E Jones sent the following on 2/23/2011 12:37 PM:

That's why I still use DOS. You can learn everything there is to know
about it in a few weeks, and I got that out of the way
nearly two decades ago. I'm a happy camper.
-David

On Feb 23, 2011, at 12:19 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

The better tool is the one you know

Jacques

BJ Freeman wrote:

I still use netscape
=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier
Automation
Specialtymarket.com
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
Jacques Le

Re: Let's rewrite OFBiz in ... (was: Clear trend...)


From: "BJ Freeman" 
I have been moving as much as I can from java classes to minilanq to get 
ready for a total redesign, by replacing the java classes with Pascal.
this puts the actually program at machine code level so has to be 
compiled for the processor it runs on.


The real headache will be replacing all the libraries used in ofbiz.

the minilang relies on calling the "helper" classes and libraries more 
than it does now.


if you put stuff in JavaScript there is no continuity between browser 
implementations, so can not designed anything.


jQuery hides those problems, not sure it's 100% reliable though...

Jacques

Plus then you put the processing on the client, you are taking away from 
the power of client to run other process.


I am running into this in FF with 30 browser windows, that average 5 
tabs open.

with all the activity the sites have they use about 35-50% cpu time.


Al Byers sent the following on 2/24/2011 10:11 AM:

Just kidding in the subject. But I think it is an interesting discussion.

Wouldn't Groovy require a licensed Java runtime and therefore not
qualify as a replacement for Java?

I am thinking that because more and more sites will be doing mashups
of data from different source sites (and for other reasons, like
HTML5), that more work will be drawn in from server apps to client
apps (ie. javascript) and the interactions with the server will be
more of the simpler RESTful type. If that is the case, there would be
some incentive to use the same language on the server as on the client
(ie. javascript). I think that is why you are seeing more
javascript-based servers and frameworks cropping up which are
initially designed to handle the RESTful transactions. The new
javascript engines solve the speed problem and the single-threaded
problem is being solved other ways.

-Al

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:00 AM, Jacques Le Roux  wrote:

Sorry to underestand in place of David,

Groovy, I guess since David is using it heavily in Moqui

I like Scala too (like js it's Object Oriented and Functional also but more
"serious" I'd say
I must say I don't much about it yet http://www.scala-lang.org/

Jacques

Al Byers wrote:


Ok David, I'll bite; I would like to know what alternatives to Java
you think are worth considering. Is Javascript one of them (my pick)?

-Al

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:12 PM, David E Jones  wrote:


Back to being serious: thank goodness technology has progressed far
beyond such things. They were ridiculously limited and
required huge amounts of human effort to create the simplest software, or
meet the simplest needs.
I don't know what you mean by "Java goes commercial", IMO Java is already
commercial and efforts to move it toward being more
open have been problematic. Either way, if Java is compromised it will
only open the way for something newer and better to come
along, and frankly there are already various decent alternatives.
-David


On Feb 23, 2011, at 1:14 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:


started wire wrapped s-100 system, 1n 1976 had a full 2k of 8bit memory
with a boot strap that I loaded with switches that then
loaded a monitor from a cassette tape. that gave a chance to enter my
code in hex, that i wrote out on paper, then saved it to
cassette tape. That was my first OS. Then there was exidy OS with rom
packs for applications. finally cpm with c code so could expand.
small c then pascal, then C#.
then a got a 5 1/4 drive with i86 board that mounted on it and got
compiled cpm for it. I really wanted an Apple. Closest I got
was an amiga. got Dos to work then windows 1.3
worked for a lot of early computer manufactures including apple and
commodore.
still have pascal with the source code, so if and when Java goes
commercial, I will revert all code to pascal and Ai.

=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation

Specialtymarket.com
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man


David E Jones sent the following on 2/23/2011 12:37 PM:


That's why I still use DOS. You can learn everything there is to know
about it in a few weeks, and I got that out of the way
nearly two decades ago. I'm a happy camper.
-David


On Feb 23, 2011, at 12:19 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:


The better tool is the one you know

Jacques

BJ Freeman wrote:


I still use netscape
=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier
Automation
Specialtymarket.com
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 2/23/2011 11:21 AM:


http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-monthly-200807-201101

Re: Integrating junit test suite in ofbiz framework to do selenium testing


search for SeleniumXml if this link does not get you there.
http://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/cmssite/cms/APACHE_OFBIZ_HTML#N232B1
just below that is
The OFBiz Test Tools Introduction.
http://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/cmssite/cms/APACHE_OFBIZ_HTML#N2338A

i am working on building Junit based on black box input and output 
automatically as part of the project manager.


looking forward to you contribution.

=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  

Specialtymarket.com  
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man


soumya jyoti guru sent the following on 2/24/2011 2:59 AM:

Hi All,
  I am trying to integrate junit test-suite in the ofbiz
framework for selenium testing.Can anybody help me by providing me the
detailed steps, how we can include our own junit test-suite in the
framework.If there is any included help in ofbiz for selenium then
please provide me with the link.
regards
Soumya

Re: Let's rewrite OFBiz in ... (was: Clear trend...)

I have been moving as much as I can from java classes to minilanq to get 
ready for a total redesign, by replacing the java classes with Pascal.
this puts the actually program at machine code level so has to be 
compiled for the processor it runs on.


The real headache will be replacing all the libraries used in ofbiz.

the minilang relies on calling the "helper" classes and libraries more 
than it does now.


if you put stuff in JavaScript there is no continuity between browser 
implementations, so can not designed anything.


Plus then you put the processing on the client, you are taking away from 
the power of client to run other process.


I am running into this in FF with 30 browser windows, that average 5 
tabs open.

with all the activity the sites have they use about 35-50% cpu time.


Al Byers sent the following on 2/24/2011 10:11 AM:

Just kidding in the subject. But I think it is an interesting discussion.

Wouldn't Groovy require a licensed Java runtime and therefore not
qualify as a replacement for Java?

I am thinking that because more and more sites will be doing mashups
of data from different source sites (and for other reasons, like
HTML5), that more work will be drawn in from server apps to client
apps (ie. javascript) and the interactions with the server will be
more of the simpler RESTful type. If that is the case, there would be
some incentive to use the same language on the server as on the client
(ie. javascript). I think that is why you are seeing more
javascript-based servers and frameworks cropping up which are
initially designed to handle the RESTful transactions. The new
javascript engines solve the speed problem and the single-threaded
problem is being solved other ways.

-Al

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:00 AM, Jacques Le Roux  wrote:

Sorry to underestand in place of David,

Groovy, I guess since David is using it heavily in Moqui

I like Scala too (like js it's Object Oriented and Functional also but more
"serious" I'd say
I must say I don't much about it yet http://www.scala-lang.org/

Jacques

Al Byers wrote:


Ok David, I'll bite; I would like to know what alternatives to Java
you think are worth considering. Is Javascript one of them (my pick)?

-Al

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:12 PM, David E Jones  wrote:


Back to being serious: thank goodness technology has progressed far
beyond such things. They were ridiculously limited and
required huge amounts of human effort to create the simplest software, or
meet the simplest needs.
I don't know what you mean by "Java goes commercial", IMO Java is already
commercial and efforts to move it toward being more
open have been problematic. Either way, if Java is compromised it will
only open the way for something newer and better to come
along, and frankly there are already various decent alternatives.
-David


On Feb 23, 2011, at 1:14 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:


started wire wrapped s-100 system, 1n 1976 had a full 2k of 8bit memory
with a boot strap that I loaded with switches that then
loaded a monitor from a cassette tape. that gave a chance to enter my
code in hex, that i wrote out on paper, then saved it to
cassette tape. That was my first OS. Then there was exidy OS with rom
packs for applications. finally cpm with c code so could expand.
small c then pascal, then C#.
then a got a 5 1/4 drive with i86 board that mounted on it and got
compiled cpm for it. I really wanted an Apple. Closest I got
was an amiga. got Dos to work then windows 1.3
worked for a lot of early computer manufactures including apple and
commodore.
still have pascal with the source code, so if and when Java goes
commercial, I will revert all code to pascal and Ai.

=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation

Specialtymarket.com
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man


David E Jones sent the following on 2/23/2011 12:37 PM:


That's why I still use DOS. You can learn everything there is to know
about it in a few weeks, and I got that out of the way
nearly two decades ago. I'm a happy camper.
-David


On Feb 23, 2011, at 12:19 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:


The better tool is the one you know

Jacques

BJ Freeman wrote:


I still use netscape
=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier
Automation
Specialtymarket.com
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 2/23/2011 11:21 AM:


http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-monthly-200807-201101

Let's rewrite OFBiz in ... (was: Clear trend...)

2011-02-24 Thread Al Byers

Just kidding in the subject. But I think it is an interesting discussion.

Wouldn't Groovy require a licensed Java runtime and therefore not
qualify as a replacement for Java?

I am thinking that because more and more sites will be doing mashups
of data from different source sites (and for other reasons, like
HTML5), that more work will be drawn in from server apps to client
apps (ie. javascript) and the interactions with the server will be
more of the simpler RESTful type. If that is the case, there would be
some incentive to use the same language on the server as on the client
(ie. javascript). I think that is why you are seeing more
javascript-based servers and frameworks cropping up which are
initially designed to handle the RESTful transactions. The new
javascript engines solve the speed problem and the single-threaded
problem is being solved other ways.

-Al

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:00 AM, Jacques Le Roux  wrote:
> Sorry to underestand in place of David,
>
> Groovy, I guess since David is using it heavily in Moqui
>
> I like Scala too (like js it's Object Oriented and Functional also but more
> "serious" I'd say
> I must say I don't much about it yet http://www.scala-lang.org/
>
> Jacques
>
> Al Byers wrote:
>>
>> Ok David, I'll bite; I would like to know what alternatives to Java
>> you think are worth considering. Is Javascript one of them (my pick)?
>>
>> -Al
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:12 PM, David E Jones  wrote:
>>>
>>> Back to being serious: thank goodness technology has progressed far
>>> beyond such things. They were ridiculously limited and
>>> required huge amounts of human effort to create the simplest software, or
>>> meet the simplest needs.
>>> I don't know what you mean by "Java goes commercial", IMO Java is already
>>> commercial and efforts to move it toward being more
>>> open have been problematic. Either way, if Java is compromised it will
>>> only open the way for something newer and better to come
>>> along, and frankly there are already various decent alternatives.
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2011, at 1:14 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>
 started wire wrapped s-100 system, 1n 1976 had a full 2k of 8bit memory
 with a boot strap that I loaded with switches that then
 loaded a monitor from a cassette tape. that gave a chance to enter my
 code in hex, that i wrote out on paper, then saved it to
 cassette tape. That was my first OS. Then there was exidy OS with rom
 packs for applications. finally cpm with c code so could expand.
 small c then pascal, then C#.
 then a got a 5 1/4 drive with i86 board that mounted on it and got
 compiled cpm for it. I really wanted an Apple. Closest I got
 was an amiga. got Dos to work then windows 1.3
 worked for a lot of early computer manufactures including apple and
 commodore.
 still have pascal with the source code, so if and when Java goes
 commercial, I will revert all code to pascal and Ai.

 =
 BJ Freeman
 Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
 
 Specialtymarket.com 
 Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

 Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man


 David E Jones sent the following on 2/23/2011 12:37 PM:
>
> That's why I still use DOS. You can learn everything there is to know
> about it in a few weeks, and I got that out of the way
> nearly two decades ago. I'm a happy camper.
> -David
>
>
> On Feb 23, 2011, at 12:19 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>
>> The better tool is the one you know
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>
>>> I still use netscape
>>> =
>>> BJ Freeman
>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier
>>> Automation
>>> Specialtymarket.com
>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 2/23/2011 11:21 AM:

 http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-monthly-200807-201101
>
>

Re: A/B testing

2011-02-24 Thread Ashish Vijaywargiya

Thanks Jacques, Looking forward to have your contribution in this area.

--
Ashish

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:21 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I think we miss something like http://www.bingocardcreator.com/abingo
>
> I will work on one for a customer, and would like to contribute, not sure I
> will be able to...
>
> I will use/extend at least
>
> * org.ofbiz.marketing.tracking
>   * TrackingCode
>   * TrackingCodeType
>   * TrackingCodeVisit
> * for org.ofbiz.webapp.visit
>   * Visit
>   * Visitor
>
> Just to share, in case you have already experimented in OFBiz...
>
> Jacques
>
>

A/B testing


Hi,

I think we miss something like http://www.bingocardcreator.com/abingo

I will work on one for a customer, and would like to contribute, not sure I 
will be able to...

I will use/extend at least

* org.ofbiz.marketing.tracking
   * TrackingCode
   * TrackingCodeType
   * TrackingCodeVisit
* for org.ofbiz.webapp.visit
   * Visit
   * Visitor

Just to share, in case you have already experimented in OFBiz...

Jacques

New Flat Grey issue in Webtools/Entity Maintenance


Hi,

The New Flat Grey theme hides the right part of large screens in 
Webtools/Entity Maintenance when looking at entities values

I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4200 for this

Jacques

Re: Clear trend...


From: "Jacques Le Roux" 

Sorry to underestand in place of David,


Oops, I meant to answer in place of David :D

Jacques


Groovy, I guess since David is using it heavily in Moqui

I like Scala too (like js it's Object Oriented and Functional also but more 
"serious" I'd say
I must say I don't much about it yet http://www.scala-lang.org/

Jacques

Al Byers wrote:

Ok David, I'll bite; I would like to know what alternatives to Java
you think are worth considering. Is Javascript one of them (my pick)?

-Al

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:12 PM, David E Jones  wrote:


Back to being serious: thank goodness technology has progressed far beyond such 
things. They were ridiculously limited and
required huge amounts of human effort to create the simplest software, or meet the simplest needs. I don't know what you mean by 
"Java goes commercial", IMO Java is already commercial and efforts to move it toward being more

open have been problematic. Either way, if Java is compromised it will only 
open the way for something newer and better to come
along, and frankly there are already various decent alternatives.  -David


On Feb 23, 2011, at 1:14 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:


started wire wrapped s-100 system, 1n 1976 had a full 2k of 8bit memory with a 
boot strap that I loaded with switches that then
loaded a monitor from a cassette tape. that gave a chance to enter my code in 
hex, that i wrote out on paper, then saved it to
cassette tape. That was my first OS. Then there was exidy OS with rom packs for applications. finally cpm with c code so could 
expand.

small c then pascal, then C#.
then a got a 5 1/4 drive with i86 board that mounted on it and got compiled cpm 
for it. I really wanted an Apple. Closest I got
was an amiga. got Dos to work then windows 1.3
worked for a lot of early computer manufactures including apple and commodore.
still have pascal with the source code, so if and when Java goes commercial, I 
will revert all code to pascal and Ai.

=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation 

Specialtymarket.com 
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man


David E Jones sent the following on 2/23/2011 12:37 PM:


That's why I still use DOS. You can learn everything there is to know about it 
in a few weeks, and I got that out of the way
nearly two decades ago. I'm a happy camper. -David


On Feb 23, 2011, at 12:19 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:


The better tool is the one you know

Jacques

BJ Freeman wrote:

I still use netscape
=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier 
Automation
Specialtymarket.com
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 2/23/2011 11:21 AM:

http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-monthly-200807-201101

Re: Clear trend...

Sorry to underestand in place of David,

Groovy, I guess since David is using it heavily in Moqui

I like Scala too (like js it's Object Oriented and Functional also but more
"serious" I'd say
I must say I don't much about it yet http://www.scala-lang.org/

Jacques

Al Byers wrote:

Ok David, I'll bite; I would like to know what alternatives to Java
you think are worth considering. Is Javascript one of them (my pick)?

-Al

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:12 PM, David E Jones wrote:

Back to being serious: thank goodness technology has progressed far beyond such
things. They were ridiculously limited and
required huge amounts of human effort to create the simplest software, or meet the simplest needs.

I don't know what you mean by "Java goes commercial", IMO Java is already
commercial and efforts to move it toward being more
open have been problematic. Either way, if Java is compromised it will only
open the way for something newer and better to come
along, and frankly there are already various decent alternatives.

-David

On Feb 23, 2011, at 1:14 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:

started wire wrapped s-100 system, 1n 1976 had a full 2k of 8bit memory with a
boot strap that I loaded with switches that then
loaded a monitor from a cassette tape. that gave a chance to enter my code in
hex, that i wrote out on paper, then saved it to
cassette tape. That was my first OS. Then there was exidy OS with rom packs for applications.
finally cpm with c code so could expand.

small c then pascal, then C#.
then a got a 5 1/4 drive with i86 board that mounted on it and got compiled cpm
for it. I really wanted an Apple. Closest I got
was an amiga.
got Dos to work then windows 1.3

worked for a lot of early computer manufactures including apple and commodore.
still have pascal with the source code, so if and when Java goes commercial, I
will revert all code to pascal and Ai.

=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation

Specialtymarket.com
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man

David E Jones sent the following on 2/23/2011 12:37 PM:

That's why I still use DOS. You can learn everything there is to know about it
in a few weeks, and I got that out of the way
nearly two decades ago. I'm a happy camper.

-David

On Feb 23, 2011, at 12:19 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

The better tool is the one you know

Jacques

BJ Freeman wrote:

I still use netscape
=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier
Automation
Specialtymarket.com
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 2/23/2011 11:21 AM:

http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-monthly-200807-201101

Re: Defining a new view entity (Scope: Detail Party:General Entities)

2011-02-24 Thread Justin Robinson

Thanks for the replies on my related topic I only saw them after I
rehashed & created a new more appropriate topic. I understand what you
were saying about opentaps vs ofbiz appropriateness, my understanding
of where one begins and the other ends is more complete now.
I thought of a much simpler way to achieve my aim, but the application
logic is irrelevant to this forum. I would like some advice on the
simplest way to modify a view, by joining an entity that has 2 primary
keys.

I'd like to get the attrValue field, into my
CustRequestAndPartyRelationshipAndRole view entity, but the relation
must be by "custRequestId" & "attrName" which are both primary keys. I
can't figure out how to do this.

my attempt at the modified view:

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Justin Robinson
 wrote:
> Ok my last email to the mailing list was rather glib, no suprise
> no-one replied. (Sorry)
>
> I need to define a view entity that can encapsulates the person-party
> (of type customer) related to party-group (of type account team) & the
> person-party (of type employee).
> So that I can trace the relationships  person-parties (of type
> customer) to the person-party (of type employee) through the common
> party of party-group (of type account team).
>
> I know it will involve one to many relationships, but I can't quite
> viualize how to define the view entity.
> After looking at 'The Big Book of OFBiz Diagrams' Detail Party:General
> Entities am not sure which entities need to be joined in the view to
> get this done.
>
> Can anyone shed some light about how to do about this?
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Justin
> Venture-Net Research & Development
>

-- 
Regards,
Justin
Venture-Net Research & Development

Re: Clear trend...

2011-02-24 Thread Al Byers

Ok David, I'll bite; I would like to know what alternatives to Java
you think are worth considering. Is Javascript one of them (my pick)?

-Al

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:12 PM, David E Jones  wrote:
>
> Back to being serious: thank goodness technology has progressed far beyond 
> such things. They were ridiculously limited and required huge amounts of 
> human effort to create the simplest software, or meet the simplest needs.
>
> I don't know what you mean by "Java goes commercial", IMO Java is already 
> commercial and efforts to move it toward being more open have been 
> problematic. Either way, if Java is compromised it will only open the way for 
> something newer and better to come along, and frankly there are already 
> various decent alternatives.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Feb 23, 2011, at 1:14 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>
>> started wire wrapped s-100 system, 1n 1976 had a full 2k of 8bit memory with 
>> a boot strap that I loaded with switches that then loaded a monitor from a 
>> cassette tape. that gave a chance to enter my code in hex, that i wrote out 
>> on paper, then saved it to cassette tape. That was my first OS.
>> Then there was exidy OS with rom packs for applications.
>> finally cpm with c code so could expand.
>> small c then pascal, then C#.
>> then a got a 5 1/4 drive with i86 board that mounted on it and got compiled 
>> cpm for it. I really wanted an Apple. Closest I got was an amiga.
>> got Dos to work then windows 1.3
>> worked for a lot of early computer manufactures including apple and 
>> commodore.
>> still have pascal with the source code, so if and when Java goes commercial, 
>> I will revert all code to pascal and Ai.
>>
>> =
>> BJ Freeman
>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  
>> 
>> Specialtymarket.com  
>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>
>> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>
>>
>> David E Jones sent the following on 2/23/2011 12:37 PM:
>>>
>>> That's why I still use DOS. You can learn everything there is to know about 
>>> it in a few weeks, and I got that out of the way nearly two decades ago. 
>>> I'm a happy camper.
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2011, at 12:19 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>
 The better tool is the one you know

 Jacques

 BJ Freeman wrote:
> I still use netscape
> =
> BJ Freeman
> Strategic Power Office with Supplier 
> Automation
> Specialtymarket.com
> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 2/23/2011 11:21 AM:
>> http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-monthly-200807-201101

>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: Leaving out Accounting module altogether


This is not exactly true, see 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/Component+and+Component+Set+Dependencies

Jacques

prasanth r wrote:

hi,
In ofbiz all modules are independent. you can use order processing without
touching accounting module.
so, it will not be a complex task.

thanks & regards!
prasanth. r

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Mani  wrote:


Dear Ofbiz Devs and Users:

For on of the prospective clients, we are considering using OfBiz to
develop
a custom ERP solution. But accounting is done outside as a separate
solution. How complex is it to leave out accounting but get the rest of the
functions like order processing working?

Any pointers and tips in this regard is very much appreciated

Warm Regards,
Mani.

Re: How to set different default theme's for ecommerce and ecomclone.

2011-02-24 Thread Scott Gray

Note that there are better solutions for this, particularly using the WebSite 
entity to set the visualThemeSetId but what I've suggested below is the easier 
route.

Regards
Scott

HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

On 25/02/2011, at 12:31 AM, Scott Gray wrote:

> You'll have to set the visualThemeId in each app's web.xml and then modify 
> the main-decorator screen def to use that instead of the product store 
> setting.
> 
> Regards
> Scott
> 
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> 
> On 24/02/2011, at 10:51 PM, Hardik Handa wrote:
> 
>> How to set different default theme's for ecommerce and ecomclone.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Hardik Handa
>> Software Engineer - CMHP-RETAIL-COE-eCommerce
>> HCL Technologies Ltd.
>> C-22A, Sector 57, NOIDA. 201301, UP. (India)
>> Tel: +91-120-2586417-19
>> Mob: +91-9811671898
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Re: How to set different default theme's for ecommerce and ecomclone.

2011-02-24 Thread Scott Gray

You'll have to set the visualThemeId in each app's web.xml and then modify the 
main-decorator screen def to use that instead of the product store setting.

Regards
Scott

HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

On 24/02/2011, at 10:51 PM, Hardik Handa wrote:

> How to set different default theme's for ecommerce and ecomclone.
> 
> Regards,
> Hardik Handa
> Software Engineer - CMHP-RETAIL-COE-eCommerce
> HCL Technologies Ltd.
> C-22A, Sector 57, NOIDA. 201301, UP. (India)
> Tel: +91-120-2586417-19
> Mob: +91-9811671898
> www.hcltech.com
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Re: How to set different default theme's for ecommerce and ecomclone.

2011-02-24 Thread Deepak Dixit

Are you using same product store for ecommerce and ecomclone?

Create two different product store and set separate theme for each component.


Thanks & Regards
-- 
Deepak Dixit
HotWax Media Pvt. Ltd.
www.hotwaxmedia.com
Contact :- +91-98267-54548
Skype  :- deepakdixit

On Feb 24, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Hardik Handa wrote:

> What if i am using ecommerce store as ecomclone store also
> But want different theme for the ecommerce store and ecomclone store.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Deepak Dixit [mailto:deepak.di...@hotwaxmedia.com] 
> Sent: 24 February 2011 PM 03:32
> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
> Cc: Deepak Dixit
> Subject: Re: How to set different default theme's for ecommerce and ecomclone.
> 
> Hello Hardik,
> 
> There is a field "visualThemeId" in "ProductStore" entity, you can set your 
> theme id here for ecommerce store. 
> 
> Thanks & Regards
> -- 
> Deepak Dixit
> HotWax Media Pvt. Ltd.
> www.hotwaxmedia.com
> Contact :- +91-98267-54548
> Skype  :- deepakdixit
> 
> On Feb 24, 2011, at 3:21 PM, Hardik Handa wrote:
> 
>> How to set different default theme's for ecommerce and ecomclone.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Hardik Handa
>> Software Engineer - CMHP-RETAIL-COE-eCommerce
>> HCL Technologies Ltd.
>> C-22A, Sector 57, NOIDA. 201301, UP. (India)
>> Tel: +91-120-2586417-19
>> Mob: +91-9811671898
>> www.hcltech.com
>> www.hcl.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: Integrating junit test suite in ofbiz framework to do selenium testing

2011-02-24 Thread Erwan de FERRIERES


Le 24/02/2011 11:59, soumya jyoti guru a écrit :

Hi All,
  I am trying to integrate junit test-suite in the ofbiz
framework for selenium testing.Can anybody help me by providing me the
detailed steps, how we can include our own junit test-suite in the
framework.If there is any included help in ofbiz for selenium then
please provide me with the link.
regards
Soumya


Hi,

there is nothing for using selenium this way.
you may take a look in the help, under the Framework webtools category.

Cheers,

--
Erwan de FERRIERES
www.nereide.biz

Re: Excessive jQuery Scripts?

2011-02-24 Thread Sascha Rodekamp

Yes Jonatan, your right, i only removed the references. The sources are
needed in the backend as Jacques said :)

2011/2/24 Jonatan Soto 

> Sure.Note that it is WIP. http://test.japanflavour.com/ecomm/traditional
>
> If you navigate through the site you'll find that all the buttons, tabs,
> accordions, dialogs, etc. have the same appearance . They can be changed
> very easily just setting up the look and feel you prefer on the theme
> rolling page (http://jqueryui.com/themeroller/<
> http://jqueryui.com/themeroller/>),
> I put the necessary files I've got in the jquery ui folder. Ex:
>
>
> /framework/images/webapp/images/jquery/ui/css//jquery-ui-x.x.x.custom.min.css
>
> /framework/images/webapp/images/jquery/ui/js/jquery-ui-x.x.x.custom.min.js
> (if the version is different)
>
> In common-screens for the ecommerce app, the main-decorator is defined  the
> js OOTB:
>  value="/images/jquery/ui/js/jquery-ui-x.x.x.custom.min.js" global="true"/>
>
> I added  this record to the VISUAL_THEME_RESOURCE table:
> || VT_STYLESHEET | 06  |
> /images/jquery/ui/css/custom-theme/jquery-ui-x.x.x.custom.css |
> NULL| NULL  | NULL|
> NULL|
>
> ---
>
> BTW, I think we are talking the same thing, as I understood you want to
> remove this line because it is not used and I agree. What I don't think is
> necessary is to delete the entire ui folder.
>
> It is very versatile since all the jQuery UI widgets have at the bottom of
> each documentation page a guideline with the generated css classes. It is
> good for override the normal behavior with a little effort.
>
> HTH
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Sascha Rodekamp  googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey Joanatan of course it is, but it's not part of the OOTB Ecommerce App
> > :-). Maybe you could provide an example implementation; I would love to
> see
> > it!
> > But till then I prefer to remove all not needed JS Libs form the main
> > decorator. When someone needs jQuery in the ecommerce app he can simply
> add
> > everything he wants but there is no overhead anymore. It's everytime
> better
> > to load JS Libs only in the screens where they are needed and not every
> > library in the main decorator. :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > @Sam You're welcome.
> >
> > Have a good day
> > Sascha
> >
> >
> > 2011/2/24 Sam Hamilton 
> >
> > > Many thanks Sascha!
> > >
> > >
> > > On 24 Feb 2011, at 03:34, Sascha Rodekamp wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey *,
> > > > ok a checked the ecommerce up. And you're right we don't need all the
> > > jQuery
> > > > UI Stuff. I will remove and committ the changes.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Guys
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Sascha
> > > >
> > > > 2011/2/23 Jonatan Soto 
> > > >
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> I remember I asked for a similar question some months ago. These are
> > my
> > > >> conclusions:
> > > >>
> > > >> AFAIK jQuery UI is not entirely used OOTB in Ofbiz. Those heavy js
> and
> > > css
> > > >> files can be reduced a lot if you don't have plans to use all the
> > > >> components
> > > >> of jQuery UI. If you do, you can customize the theme roller with
> every
> > > >> components you would need such ui core, interactions, widgets and
> > > effects.
> > > >> It is pretty customizable and allows to select subcomponents of them
> > > when
> > > >> you finish to custom the theme.
> > > >> In my case I've decided to use jQuery UI for theme rolling purposes
> so
> > > all
> > > >> the widgets included in the library will be widely altered easily. I
> > > just
> > > >> added a record for the css to my custom ofbiz theme. I used the one
> > I've
> > > >> got
> > > >> after customization from http://jqueryui.com/themeroller/ and
> copied
> > > into
> > > >> ofbiz\framework\images\webapp\images\jquery\ui\css\"custom-theme".
> If
> > > the
> > > >> version of the js file is different it's also recommendable to
> change
> > > it.
> > > >> It
> > > >> is located in ofbiz\framework\images\webapp\images\jquery\ui\js.
> > > >>
> > > >> HTH
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Sam Hamilton 
> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hi Sascha & Jacques
> > > >>>
> > > >>> If you view the source of any of the /ecommerce/ pages you should
> > see:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> Featured Products: OFBiz E-Commerce Store
> > > >>> 
> > > >>>  > > >>> src="/images/jquery/jquery-1.4.2.min.js">
> > > >>>  > > >>>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> src="/images/jquery/ui/development-bundle/ui/i18n/jquery.ui.datepicker-en_US.js">
> > > >>>  > > >>>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> src="/images/jquery/ui/development-bundle/ui/jquery.ui.datepicker.js">
> > > >>>  > > >>>
> > src="/images/jquery/plugins/validate/jquery.validate.min.js">
> > > >>>  > > >>> src="/images/jquery/ui/js/jquery-ui-1.8.6.custom.min.js">
> > > >>>  > > >>>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> src="/images/jquery/plugins/datetimepicker/jquery-ui-timepicker-addon-0.9.3.min.js">
> > > >>>  src="/images/fieldlookup.js">
> > > >>> 
> > > >>>  > > >> type="text

Integrating junit test suite in ofbiz framework to do selenium testing

2011-02-24 Thread soumya jyoti guru

Hi All,
 I am trying to integrate junit test-suite in the ofbiz
framework for selenium testing.Can anybody help me by providing me the
detailed steps, how we can include our own junit test-suite in the
framework.If there is any included help in ofbiz for selenium then
please provide me with the link.
regards
Soumya

RE: How to set different default theme's for ecommerce and ecomclone.

What if i am using ecommerce store as ecomclone store also
But want different theme for the ecommerce store and ecomclone store.


-Original Message-
From: Deepak Dixit [mailto:deepak.di...@hotwaxmedia.com] 
Sent: 24 February 2011 PM 03:32
To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
Cc: Deepak Dixit
Subject: Re: How to set different default theme's for ecommerce and ecomclone.

Hello Hardik,

There is a field "visualThemeId" in "ProductStore" entity, you can set your 
theme id here for ecommerce store. 

Thanks & Regards
-- 
Deepak Dixit
HotWax Media Pvt. Ltd.
www.hotwaxmedia.com
Contact :- +91-98267-54548
Skype  :- deepakdixit

On Feb 24, 2011, at 3:21 PM, Hardik Handa wrote:

> How to set different default theme's for ecommerce and ecomclone.
> 
> Regards,
> Hardik Handa
> Software Engineer - CMHP-RETAIL-COE-eCommerce
> HCL Technologies Ltd.
> C-22A, Sector 57, NOIDA. 201301, UP. (India)
> Tel: +91-120-2586417-19
> Mob: +91-9811671898
> www.hcltech.com
> www.hcl.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: How to set different default theme's for ecommerce and ecomclone.

2011-02-24 Thread Deepak Dixit

Hello Hardik,

There is a field "visualThemeId" in "ProductStore" entity, you can set your 
theme id here for ecommerce store. 

Thanks & Regards
-- 
Deepak Dixit
HotWax Media Pvt. Ltd.
www.hotwaxmedia.com
Contact :- +91-98267-54548
Skype  :- deepakdixit

On Feb 24, 2011, at 3:21 PM, Hardik Handa wrote:

> How to set different default theme's for ecommerce and ecomclone.
> 
> Regards,
> Hardik Handa
> Software Engineer - CMHP-RETAIL-COE-eCommerce
> HCL Technologies Ltd.
> C-22A, Sector 57, NOIDA. 201301, UP. (India)
> Tel: +91-120-2586417-19
> Mob: +91-9811671898
> www.hcltech.com
> www.hcl.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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How to set different default theme's for ecommerce and ecomclone.

How to set different default theme's for ecommerce and ecomclone.

Regards,
Hardik Handa
Software Engineer - CMHP-RETAIL-COE-eCommerce
HCL Technologies Ltd.
C-22A, Sector 57, NOIDA. 201301, UP. (India)
Tel: +91-120-2586417-19
Mob: +91-9811671898
www.hcltech.com
www.hcl.com




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Re: Leaving out Accounting module altogether

2011-02-24 Thread prasanth r

hi,
In ofbiz all modules are independent. you can use order processing without
touching accounting module.
so, it will not be a complex task.

thanks & regards!
prasanth. r

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Mani  wrote:

> Dear Ofbiz Devs and Users:
>
> For on of the prospective clients, we are considering using OfBiz to
> develop
> a custom ERP solution. But accounting is done outside as a separate
> solution. How complex is it to leave out accounting but get the rest of the
> functions like order processing working?
>
> Any pointers and tips in this regard is very much appreciated
>
> Warm Regards,
> Mani.
>

Content Permissions

2011-02-24 Thread Gavin Mabie

Hi

 

Can anybody give me a short answer on how to give view permission to an
anonymous/guest user to view content.  I am  using
"/content/control/stream?contentId " in an FTL to show images but it only
displays when I log onto the ContentMgr application on the back end.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Gav

Re: Leaving out Accounting module altogether

2011-02-24 Thread Pranay Pandey

BJ,

Only hiding will not work as there may be chances at many places where you will 
get the errors in posting transactions because of missing GL data.

Thanks & Regards
--
Pranay Pandey




On Feb 24, 2011, at 1:17 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:

> it is best leave it be and just hide the tabs to accounting,by
> app-bar-display="false"/> in \applications\accounting
> you can look at
> specialpurpose\ecommerce\ofbiz-component.xml for an example
> 
> =
> BJ Freeman
> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  
> 
> Specialtymarket.com  
> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
> 
> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
> 
> 
> Mani sent the following on 2/23/2011 10:41 AM:
>> Dear Ofbiz Devs and Users:
>> 
>> For on of the prospective clients, we are considering using OfBiz to develop
>> a custom ERP solution. But accounting is done outside as a separate
>> solution. How complex is it to leave out accounting but get the rest of the
>> functions like order processing working?
>> 
>> Any pointers and tips in this regard is very much appreciated
>> 
>> Warm Regards,
>> Mani.
>> 
>

Re: Excessive jQuery Scripts?